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Sugar shack build
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:18:35 PM »
Looks like we'll be boiling outside for one more season, but next year we'll be boiling in style! Everything at Deer Meadow Farm is on a hill so a conventional slab would be difficult and costly. We built a heavy duty deck, framed the floor 12" OC and glued down 3/4" T&G plywood. This summer we'll lay plastic on the floor and pour a floating cement slab. Here is the floor and decking:
 

 

 

 

Other than the PT, plywood and pine top beams (Three 2 x 8's laminated) all the wood has been cut off the property. Posts are all hardwood (oak, ash, hickory) We're going for a timber-frame look. Here is where we finished off this weekend; all 4x8 oak rafters up and the cupola framing started.
 

 

 

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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2018, 04:11:45 PM »
Looks nice!
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2018, 04:44:46 PM »
Nice keep the pictures coming  8)

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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2018, 04:51:50 PM »
Why are you doing a concrete floor? I would think with what you just did you should be very happy. Linoleum or paint to cover the floor and life be good. Linoleum be easier to clean.
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2018, 05:19:59 PM »
My first 3 years on my sugarhouse I had a wooden deck. I placed a layer of 8" concrete blocks for a raised area to put the 2x6 evaporator I had at the time and I capped it with 18 ga galvanized tin. It extended out 36 in front of the arch and was 4' wide. Under the firebox area it was only about 4" wider than the arch, also on those blocks and the 18 ga. galv. Then the back legs just sat on 8" blocks without the tin. That worked good for the first 3 seasons, but then I removed the wood floor and poured a concrete floor as I was changing from a 2x6 to a 3x8 evaporator. While the wood was good, the concrete is better. My land was not level either, I filled it in with 40 tons of crusher run, tamped each new 4-6" layer, and hosed it a few times to help the compacting. The concrete has not cracked in the 13 seasons since.
What size is your sugarhouse? It looks nice.
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2018, 09:08:49 PM »
Looks good. We need one too. I am very small scale. I only do enough for me,about 2 gallons. At the most we have 20 taps. We are sick of doing it outside.
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 05:39:31 AM »
Nice Work! I hear ya on the " sick of doing it outside"

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 05:48:17 AM »
Outside is fine,IF the weather is fine. We have watched it boil from the car a few times. One year I had to dump about 30-40 gallons of sap.   :o  This was all collected by hand. That year was a warm spring and the snow melted. Was dry too. With the leaves and a stove pipe that I could see the flames out of at times,I did not dare to burn it. I had a garden hose and would wet the leaves down,but the snow kept melting and just was taking to long to wet down a larger area.
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 06:11:35 AM »
I like it! Keep the pictures coming!
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 07:43:01 AM »
Looking real good!   8)

INFO:  For those that don't know, the ash pan for the firebox on most evaporators is the floor, so you will need something fireproof under the firebox and extended out in front!  You will very likely, at times have coals and burning wood out on the floor!
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 08:22:19 AM »
Thanks. The shack is 14 x 16 with a 4' porch out front. The loft is over the porch and extends into the building 2'. There will be an attached woodshed on the right side.
Cement is a must. Like Chuck stated, the ash pan is the floor. When we're loading the wood, it's hot, flames, sparks, chunks of coals come out...it's not pretty! I'm hoping a 2" thick reinforced floating slab will hold up without cracking.  ???

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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 12:24:24 PM »
Looks good.  I like the Cat hoe in the background.  Is that a 416?
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 03:53:10 PM »
DMF
There are special mixes for thin pours like that.
Check with you local batch plant or site mix truck owner.
You didn't want ice and water shied membrane on top of the wood ?
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 03:54:12 PM »
I think the mix is called gipcrete
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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 09:33:50 AM »
The Hoe is a 426.

I can still use ice and water barrier on the wood deck I guess. I'm not sure if I'd still want a sheet of plastic over it to allow the cement to move easily...?
 

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Re: Sugar shack build
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2018, 05:50:02 PM »
You must have one short leg from walking around on that hillside wow .
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 11:08:27 AM »
You must have one short leg from walking around on that hillside wow .
It's really tough to build anything here that's for sure... :(

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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2018, 03:35:02 PM »
OK, it's been a while. A lot of progress has been made. Here are the photos from the weekend. My metal roof arrived today as well so we will begin installing that this weekend.


 

 

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2018, 04:03:51 PM »
Nice work :)
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2018, 04:58:41 PM »
Looks like a beauty!
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