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Re: Saw Chains Are Brand Names That Much Better ?
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2018, 06:13:37 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2018, 01:19:30 PM »
I use Oregon semi skip in my saws 20inch and up. I get into a lot of rotten and dirty stuff with what I do and I like the fact that I can'bring back' the softer Oregon metal quicker when dull.

I do like Stihl chain and will use it on saws that are not used on the ground. You can get that chain very sharp and it will hold an edge well. Duff it bad and you will not like filing it back to life...

Carlton chain is one I won't use for that reason. Very hard metal and tough to bring it back after dulling.

Keep in mind all are sharpened by hand file in my stable...
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2018, 03:14:19 PM »
It is confusing but the Oregon cutters are not softer...they are just not as thick of steel as Stihl cutters.
Reason why Stihl chain are harder to file (more material to file).
But as Stihl recommends using a smaller diameter 13/64" file on the 33RS chain . It does files easier then using the larger 7/32" file.
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2018, 05:53:17 PM »
It depends on the file choice too .I've found Oregon files are not the best choice ,Save Edge or Pferds work better IMO .It seems to me the Oregons are more aggressive and used on a Stihl chain don't last as long .The others take less of a bite or at least the ones I have do and hold up better .

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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2018, 06:07:42 PM »
Best file I can readily  buy in my area is Stihl . They're still Swiss made and have done well for me over the years.
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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2018, 09:28:01 PM »
I've never really bought any but I have a few that came with stuff .They seem to be okay .I just never delved into them because I assumed they would be over priced .--But I've been wrong before .
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2018, 10:57:53 AM »
From a Sugihara website
 "On the single piece pro and light type bars the hardness of the rails is measured at HRC 60. Compare this to Stihl at HRC 57 and Oregon at HRC 55 and it is clear why these bars last longer. They are so hard they resist most flat files when it comes to bar dressing." And they make 1/4" saw chsin too.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2018, 05:53:07 PM »
Climer2 why are you running a skip chain on a short bar ? I would think on a 24 inch bar a chisel chain sharp would do more than a skip . Or you need more power . Just today I had to dress my bar for the processer . Took all of 15 min. on the bar dresser .
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2018, 02:22:43 PM »
Climer2 why are you running a skip chain on a short bar ? I would think on a 24 inch bar a chisel chain sharp would do more than a skip . Or you need more power . Just today I had to dress my bar for the processer . Took all of 15 min. on the bar dresser .

I use semi skip for a couple reasons. One is it takes less time to sharpen when I inevitably dull it in a rotten tree it find something special like a fencepost or tire iron in an old trunk.  Second is the fact that less teeth allow the engine rpm to stay higher when buried in a cut. Without the saw dogging, especially if the edge isn't quite perfect, I find The saw cutting faster using semiskip.
As far as saw size, I'm using it on husqvarna 372xps and a 562xp
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2018, 03:35:08 PM »
Semi skip square chisel will cut faster then then full comp or full skip since you can normally go up a sprocket size, run a slightly more aggressive grind, and lower rakers without all the vibrations of full skip. Normally anything over 105 drivers or when running 063 I use semi skip mainly for speed as well as chip clean out in oversized cuts where you're chasing out a face or under cut.

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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2018, 05:44:16 PM »
AL-Smith  I concur . No hard feelings but I chose to trade some where else.
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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2018, 07:31:57 AM »
The new Oregon EXL chain has proven to be a smash hit with my customers. Even converted a couple guys that were using Stihl chain; and that wasn't possible with the LGX. Husky has a new chain coming out in the summer, but it will have to equal or better the EXL and Stihl chains because it could be priced $5-$7 more per loop than the Oregon made H48 chain they are selling now.

Lot of my serious guys run the sugi-hara bars. We also sold Total/Tsumura, but when Tilton went away we dropped them. Reaction to the Sugi's is far more impressive and the tips in the Totals didn't last for guys who bore cut every tree. Sugi tips are great.

The off brand Asian chains like Forester, Silver Streak, etc are pretty much junk. Way too much stretch, couple cutters on most loops that cannot be filed at all, poor out of the box sharpness. And there isn't even any savings with these cheap chains; just a few bucks a loop? Even for the personal firewood cutter, they make little sense.
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