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A little trouble today
« on: April 19, 2010, 09:38:19 PM »
First log, first cut.  When I hit the reverse, the powerfeed made a "bad" noise that I had never heard before.  Next cut, same noise.  I finished the log, took the guards off of the powerfeed sprockets and watched.  Yup, slipped...or rather skipped a few links.

Pulled the powerfeed assembly, and sure enough.....worn drive sprocket. 

That's when WM service comes into play.  Called, all needed parts are in stock, and will be here Wednesday.
 


 


I ordered both sprockets and the necessary bearings and keepers.
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 09:41:56 PM »
I love woodmizer parts


wish I didn't  have to buy them

but, in stock, on time, back to cutting
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 09:57:52 PM »
Wow, you can really see the wear on those.
There is nothing like the natural beauty of wood.

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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 09:59:24 PM »
Also, check the chain. Usually the sprockets wear because the chain stretches and rides up on the sprocket teeth.
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 10:19:57 PM »
Good point, but it's 40 miles away on that job.  I'll run the sprockets on the chain before I install them.  I'll actually measure the chain when I bring the mill back next week.  I'm sure that the chain is original and I've put over 4K hours on it.  The original owner replaced the hour meter, so it has well over 6K hours.

I've got 21 good SYP logs to saw first.  All 24"+..... :)
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 11:47:16 PM »
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Keep a real close eye on your new sprokets with worn chain sometimes they will eat a new sproket fast
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 01:20:57 AM »
It is better to bite the bullet and put new chain on as soon as you can. See what you get for putting all those hours on that mill, new part.  ;D
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 06:46:51 AM »
always replace the chain when replacing sprockets.  A saying to live by

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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 06:55:57 AM »
Guess that'll learn you not to use your mill so much!  You're plum wearing it out...

Oh, well, as they say around here- the  only equipment that doesn't break...

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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 07:45:11 AM »
Gday

Whata doin wearn equipment out like that  Mate  ;) :D  Magic one of me old boses would think i was being a real pita sayn that needed fixn just tighten up the chain more he'd say  ;)  :) ??? ::)  Ive seen plenty worse than that ran an old laimet that had only about 1/8th of the drive tooth left on the sprocket you hat to be realy touchy with the feed and reverse mate  ::) ::) ::) :( >:( Quit  ;) :D :D :D

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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 05:03:50 PM »
Magicman'
   Captain-Crunch is right on. If you use the old chain at all run it loose and watch it closely. The wear i see in your picture definetly shows a lot of chain pitch wear. If the old chain wears the new sprockets, the wear on the new sprockets will shorten the life of a new chain.
I would change the chain now, with the new sprokets.
   
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 05:18:12 PM »
Also, check the chain. Usually the sprockets wear because the chain stretches and rides up on the sprocket teeth.

Point well taken,  A new chain was ordered and will be here Thursday.  When I put it back together, all parts will be new.  Thanks guys for the reminder and advice..... :)
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 05:21:56 PM »
Also, check the chain. Usually the sprockets wear because the chain stretches and rides up on the sprocket teeth.

Point well taken,  A new chain was ordered and will be here Thursday.  When I put it back together, all parts will be new.  Thanks guys for the reminder and advice..... :)

Right on MM.
When I had a motorcycle, the sprockets got badly worn and when I went to pick up new ones,
the salesman told me that sprockets and chains should be sold in sets.
So I picked up the set.
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 03:38:30 PM »
New sprockets, bearings, keepers, etc. came today.  I had to drill and retap the main drive pulley, but no problem.  The idler sprocket bearing had slipped on it's shaft, so I had to center punch the shaft a bit and also applied fingernail polish.  Not really needed, but now the shaft matches the wife's toes..... :)

The new chain will be in tomorrow, but rain in the forecast means no sawing until next week.

 


The shaft bearings had been slipping on the shaft for a while, cutting the shaft down.
 


I center punched the idler shaft and added nail polish.  It won't slip now.
 


Two happy power feed sprockets.
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 05:15:09 PM »
The idler sprocket bearing had slipped on it's shaft, so I had to center punch the shaft a bit and also applied fingernail polish. 

Learn something new everyday...I would have used LocTite.  Will the parts still come apart easy?  May have to add a bottle of that fingernail polish to my repair arsenal. 
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2010, 07:30:35 PM »
Actually the center punch "dinging" was enough to tighten it up.  They make "Green" bearing race sealant, but at $22.50 per bottle.  Nail polish is actually lacquer, and will hold very well.  If/when it needs removing, the normal "persuasion" will remove it.
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2010, 08:56:06 PM »
Your ever consider getting your bearings, sprockets, chains from a tractor supply type of store. Up were I live we have a lot of tractor dealers and parts stores and they usually keep stuff like that on hand. And usually(not always) cheaper. Plus you wouldn't have to wait a couple days for parts.
 What was suppose to keep the idler from slipping? key, set screw, locking collar?
 Good idea on the nail polish. One back thing about about center punching, or at least what I have experienced. Is it will still probably do it again. But then I never tried nail polish :) maybe that's the trick :)
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Re: A little trouble today
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2010, 09:47:51 PM »
Sure, many items are available locally, especially hoses, etc.  In this case, since the sprockets were specialty items, and #40 chain was available only in 10' lengths, there was no decision to make.

I called WM from the job site Monday noon.  The parts were in my hands Wednesday AM.  If I had ordered the chain then, I would have gotten it today also.

Since I never schedule over 2 days of sawing per week, I just got other stuff done.  I'll saw that job next week....or the week after.  No I'll be in Florida that week.  Hmmm, maybe the week after that.... ;D :D
 
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2010, 09:51:52 PM »
Florida eh? Well drink some good orange juice so you feel good enough to come back to some hard work :D
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 10:06:26 PM »
Magicman,your welcome to stop by my place and give me some pointers ;D ;D
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