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Re: "Sweet N Sour" House Finish?
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 11:22:32 AM »
Is boracare the same as timbor?
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Re: "Sweet N Sour" House Finish?
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 01:14:25 PM »
From what I've read, Boracare may offer some better penetration (although some specifically say "faster penetration initially") but for the most part I think Boracare and Timbor are similar.

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Re: "Sweet N Sour" House Finish?
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 11:28:26 PM »
The active ingredient is the same in both, DOT, disodium octaborate tetrahydrate (sp?)
The carrier in timbor is water, in boracare its water and ethylene glycol, antifreeze. Glycols dry slow so it diffuses in deeper, a big plus on dry stuff.
Solubor is DOT as well, chemically the same as timbor, is available at the farm supply and costs around a buck a pound, annyfreeze is at Walmart  ;).
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Re: "Sweet N Sour" House Finish?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2008, 05:31:36 AM »
Thanks Don, I have 3 - 5 gal pails of dry timbor on hand.
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Re: "Sweet N Sour" House Finish?
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2008, 10:29:00 AM »
Frank, how did you find out about the sweet and sour mix? Can you reuse the steel wool each time or do you use a fresh piece.
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Re: "Sweet N Sour" House Finish?
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2008, 12:08:59 PM »
woodbowl:  I did a Google search for "weathering wood" and it was mentioned in some of the top results.  Apparently they use it in the model railroad hobby for some balsa miniatures.  I saw it mentioned in other places as well, from distressing antique furniture to ebonizing oak, etc.

The steel wool dissolves in the vinegar, given enough time.  I suppose you can let it partially dissolve and place the remainder of the steel wool in a new batch of vinegar.

Thankfully the process doesn't require precision as far as quantities or time.  When doing the house staining, I'd use 32 oz of vinegar per 1 steel wool pad, and let sit overnight... but I find that you can really change the ratios and amount of time quite a bit.

Lately I'm experimenting with building rustic picture frames.  In some old redoak barnwood, I've found out this stuff works very well for the parts of the frame where you have fresh cuts (like the inside parts, where the pink shows up).  I simply rough those parts up with a wire brush / rasp, etc. and apply a special low-concentration version of the mix(because too much will turn oak black).  It really helps blend the new cuts with the rest of it, giving the whole picture frame the barnwood look.

Another variation I've tried is a version mixed with india ink.  On some pine the standalone stuff gave greenish tints.  The ink helped tend it toward grey.



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