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Started by tafollaj, December 28, 2023, 08:15:53 PM

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tafollaj

Hi everyone, I am laying out my timbers, planed and squared for a small 9'x13', 12' tall office/studio with small loft. I'd like your thoughts on whether such a small timber frame requires as many braces as I have added, or more. I have placed them to keep the opening on the left front clear for large glass/door. I'm using 6x8, 6x6, and 6x4 pine (I believe it is ponderosa, from California Sierra foothills), though after being planed they are more like 5.75x7.75, etc. This will be my first building, so would appreciate a more experienced perspective. The overall size is dictated by not needing a permit for this size in LA County. Thanks for looking!
Al

 

Jim_Rogers

You only need two braces per plane. So, I'd drop the two lower ones as you have nice ones at the top of the posts going to the plates in the front and back wall.

Jim Rogers
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Ljohnsaw

Jim, following what you said, could he also eliminate the center loft braces and open up the middle area?
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Jim_Rogers

Quote from: ljohnsaw on December 29, 2023, 10:00:23 AM
Jim, following what you said, could he also eliminate the center loft braces and open up the middle area?
No, you need all other braces in pairs. All the tie beams need braces, normally.

Jim Rogers
Whatever you do, have fun doing it!
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tafollaj

Thank you Jim! It looks cleaner without those lower braces, and it'll save me time.

scsmith42

Looks nice but sure seems like it needs more headroom....
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tafollaj

It sure does need more headroom, but then the loft will be too tight. I'm 5'10" so I'll avoid bumping my head. I've got enough lumber for a couple more after this one, so I may adjust on the others, or go with a totally different design.

Don P

I've not seen them kick but that clause in our code reads single floor, 10' max eave height, and actually light frame construction is also in there. Do read and know that section, each state seems to have modified it to their liking. On square footage ours bumped up to 256 a few years ago, the "model" code all the states (except WI) start with reads 150 sf. And then they write and pass whatever each state approves of. Anyway, do understand what Caesar wants.

For bracing, thought exercise... you do not show the claddings and openings and associated framing. Depending on what those are and how it is done, that is what is doing the bracing. Plywood panels or diagonal boards are going to attract and resist the load long before the TF braces. Basically with sheathed walls, floor and roof you have a braced frame. Then, that was an aesthetic question  :).




tafollaj

Thanks for the reminder to double check requirements. Less than 120 ft2, 12 ft tall, and 24" roof over hang is all good. I don't know if they would consider the "loft" as floor space, but as long as the outside dimensions don't exceed requirements, I'll go for it.

Sod saw

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Our building inspector here has the cut off point at 100 square feet and not attached to the ground ( no footing etc. ) for a small building with no building permit required.

"Shed" is one word to describe them.

Our kiln is way too big to fall into that category so it is on a trailer frame and can be as big as necessary.


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A kiln is a piece of agricultural equipment. He can check the electrical hook up.
If your laws exempt a tobacco barn, they also exempt your lumber drying and workspaces. My crop is simply on a longer rotation.

Zoning might just say you're in a no farm zone!

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