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General Forestry => General Board => Topic started by: Ernie on May 17, 2011, 09:31:08 PM

Title: Scary/criminal
Post by: Ernie on May 17, 2011, 09:31:08 PM
This goes some way to explain the disappearance of the bees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Mrm9Y6khk&feature=related
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: Don_Papenburg on May 17, 2011, 11:06:12 PM
Ernie , Could you give a Cliff notes version? That would be a three or four hour download on my crankphone internet setup.
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: tyb525 on May 17, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
I've also seen research about cell phone signals affecting bees
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: sprucebunny on May 18, 2011, 06:33:08 AM
The video is about a pesticide and inadaquate testing by the manufacturer/EPA of it's effects on bees.

Here's a link for more info http://action.freshthemovie.com/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5213
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: Norm on May 18, 2011, 08:32:33 AM
It's not used around here but we have the same problems with bee's dieing off. Reminds me of the movie silent spring.

A good quote of this type of alar hysteria.

"But after four decades in which tens of billions of dollars have been wasted chasing imaginary risks without measurably improving American health, her intellectual descendants don't have the same excuse".
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: Ernie on May 18, 2011, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Don_Papenburg on May 17, 2011, 11:06:12 PM
Ernie , Could you give a Cliff notes version? That would be a three or four hour download on my crankphone internet setup.

Once I found out what a "cliffs note" is, I had a look around and this is probably as good as anything for your crankphone setup.

The emphasis was more on the irresponsible sanctioning by the EPA(what a misnomer) of the use of potent dangerous pesticides without an adequate risk assessment.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070223-bees.html
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: SPIKER on May 18, 2011, 05:41:08 PM
what is not stated is that the Bee die off has moved around the world and USA is late in the game at getting the die off issue.   China and Eastern Europe were much earlier in the issue.   That kind of tosses a chink in the pesticide and cell phone signals causing it as the die back was in rural china Mongolia and Europe a year prior to here.

Other sources links it to a contamination that originated in Australia as they are one of the biggest producers of Bees (yes it is a very large market that has low inspection and worldwide shipping over night short term of live bees to mass producers & pollinators that roam along with the flowering crops.)

Mark
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: Don_Papenburg on May 18, 2011, 11:39:37 PM
Thanks every body .  We had three hives dieout last winter /  early spring.  We extracted the honey and found no infant bees in the comb.  I was thinking that the queens were inferior and died off leaving the hive without replacements.
Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: Meadows Miller on May 20, 2011, 07:55:57 AM
Gday

Its not A good thing at all if its the parasite that the CSIRO has been doing alot of research into since the first large outbreaks I have afew Mates in the industry and everyone is watching it very closely  :o :) ??? ???  :P :P :P  Mark Australia the last country/continent to be still free of the parasite and thats the reason we ship all over the world freely Mate  ;) There Is a bloke who lives about 30 mi from Me who ships between 1 to 4 million honey bees to the USA per week  ;) they are in NZ which has got us really worried  about it getting here :o :( :(

Regards Chris

Title: Re: Scary/criminal
Post by: Meadows Miller on May 20, 2011, 09:32:06 AM


Here got the link to a story on landline from last year http://abc.net.au/landline/content/2010/s2990030.htm you can either read it or click on the play link its a good 15min long  ;)

Regards Chris