Think i finally got my mill/mills

Taylortractornut · March 01, 2012, 08:13:26 PM

I started out looking at a WM and then a Baker but the WM owner woulod be about 10 months till he was done sawing. THe baker was too much with too many problems. I got to watching Circle mills on you tube and thought I would like a smaller one. I have a friend that was telling me about some he had but probably wont be setting them up as hes gettin in bad shape. One is a smaller tie/farm mill. about a 20 foot track. One is a medium and one is a larger mill. One power unit is there an old U6 IH. Hes orking out a price on the three saying he would like to see them all go to one owner. The carriages and setworks are all there. One carriage is all steel. And three arbors one with divisions marked on them. Im going tomorrow to get a look at them I basically know nothing about them. If they are pretty complete and the price is right Im bagging them.

Im pretty sure I want to set them up with a steel frame under the track and on concrete peirs. One question is how do the set works feed out. In inches or fractions like 1/4 or 1/2 inches at a time. im thinking about the medium mill. THe big one has a rid one carriage and I think would be too much for me to handle. It will be sent to another owner if thats the case.

dail_h · March 02, 2012, 07:59:05 PM

i might be interested in short mill if u get them,,,,mine blocks n all ;D ;D

bandmiller2 · March 02, 2012, 08:53:03 PM

Taylor,sounds like a big project ahead,if you play your cards right you can have your mill sell the rest and end up with yours almost free.Is that old international the hermofidite model start on gas and run on diesel they were real common on old mills.Let us know what you have if you buy them.Frank C.

Taylortractornut · March 03, 2012, 08:00:50 PM

The old U6 is a full Gasser six. A UD prefix would have been a gas starter. I looked at the mills today and its 3 complete mills. I do want to make the carriages hydraulic to get rid of a few belts. I wanted a band mill at first but after talking to a few old timers I think while a few are left I want to get a circle mill back in the county. I would like one Detroit power unit though just to be obnoxious lol.

I figured for the price I cant put together a nice CSM at the moment. I remeber as a kid dad took us to prentiss county to a mill that was making him some lumber. I rememberthe big pile of dust the drag chain was making.

inspectorwoody · March 03, 2012, 09:07:02 PM

QuoteI would like one Detroit power unit though just to be obnoxious .

:D :D :D

I sold the ol' Detroit off my old circle. Don't think I'll buy another. They run good though.

Taylortractornut · March 04, 2012, 04:42:51 AM

Got a neighbor's kid that woke the new baby up a few nights ago with his "urban music " just want a little pay back. I have a 10 foot stack off an old backup power unit.

thecfarm · March 04, 2012, 05:23:40 AM

While running the mill that will drown out the music. ;D

sdunston · March 04, 2012, 07:53:09 AM

Quote from: Taylortractornut on March 03, 2012, 08:00:50 PM
The old U6 is a full Gasser six. A UD prefix would have been a gas starter. I looked at the mills today and its 3 complete mills. I do want to make the carriages hydraulic to get rid of a few belts. I wanted a band mill at first but after talking to a few old timers I think while a few are left I want to get a circle mill back in the county. I would like one Detroit power unit though just to be obnoxious lol.

I figured for the price I cant put together a nice CSM at the moment. I remeber as a kid dad took us to prentiss county to a mill that was making him some lumber. I rememberthe big pile of dust the drag chain was making.

The U6 was made from1938-1952 it was 4 cyl gas and 247cid @1500 rpm turned out 39hp
ref:150 years of IHC

Just did'nt want to think it was a 6cyl,Great engine same as "M" T6 W6
Sam

bandmiller2 · March 04, 2012, 08:13:45 AM

Those old engines are dandy on a mill because of their long stroke and torque.Their HP rateing does not due them justice, like the old Deere 2 cyl. tractors, compared to the new Kowayuppie diesels.Only problem it will have a serious petro-thirst. Frank C.

Taylortractornut · March 04, 2012, 10:14:37 AM

Its a sixer I gues its a T6 then. I did find a 4 cyclinder down the road from it on an old sourgum mill.

Norm · March 04, 2012, 10:15:21 AM

We go to bed early and get up early. Inevitably some folks and usually relatives like to call up late. I don't answer it but make sure to call them back when I'm up early in the morning. :D

sdunston · March 04, 2012, 08:17:06 PM

Quote from: Taylortractornut on March 04, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
Its a sixer I gues its a T6 then. I did find a 4 cyclinder down the road from it on an old sourgum mill.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-International-U-6-UD-6-Power-Unit-Parts-Catalog-E-/360362640598?pt=BI_Books_Manuals&hash=item53e74984d6

good info if you get it.....

Meadows Miller · March 05, 2012, 05:55:32 AM

Gday

Taylor sounds like you got three for the price of one mate Its good to see im not the only young bloke that loves his circle mills the bandmill boys dont know what they are missing

:( High Production Numbers and Low Dramas ;) :D :D ;D ;D 8) 8) Like dad said to me the other day he is yet to see a little bit of trash in a log wipe out a circular saw ;)

Regards Chris

Taylortractornut · March 05, 2012, 09:08:46 PM

Chris I want one since theres none left in the area. I may need to pick your knowlege abit on the Meadows. The tag on the middle mill is a Meadows Id tag. from the looks of things theirs a 4th carriage and set works that may come inthe deal if I can trade for them to. I found a little Detroit power unit on a fresh rebuild. Ive got the bug bad now lol.

Meadows Miller · March 06, 2012, 05:56:21 AM

You cant go wrong there can you ;)

Whatever you need a hand with just give me a yell ;) Jesi n I might even be able to duck up for abit and give you a hand with it too Mate ;) ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8) You been to the Rattlesnake Saloon Im wanting to take her up there Its bloody Awesome Tim his Wife n I went there

;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

heres a question for you mate how much would it cost roughly there to get a kit thrown in a 453 GM labor only Mate ???

Regards Chris

Taylortractornut · March 06, 2012, 06:28:56 AM

Chris the best Detroit man hiere is down with surgery but i check and see what he will charge. Hes top notch on th-e older dtroits and Cummins and Mack jobs. Hes in his 70's, One man he trained tough is also good on them Ill ask him this evening. Both are super mechanics though.

Al_Smith · March 06, 2012, 10:04:18 AM

IH I think used the same engines for power units as they did for the respective sized crawlers and wheel tractors .Such as T6-T9 WD 6 WD 9 TD 6-TD 9 etc .

The T9- Td 9 were around 45 HP give or take and the T6 TD 6 size about a tad over 30 .I'm also pretty sure they were all 4 cylinders until you get to about TD 18-TD 24 size then they were 6 cylinder .

The TD 18 was IH's answer to a Cat 70-D7 and the TD 24 to a D8 .They most likely offered both sized engines as power units also .At one time IH made everything from deep freezes to big crawler tractors but they like so many circled the drain and became a part of history in the 80's when industries fell like a stack of dominos .

Ironically the very last tractor to be certified by the state of Nebraska ,test number 1551 was an IH 3088 .That was 1984 and coincidently was the end of IH as a prime manufacturer of farm equipment as a stand alone entity .

bandmiller2 · March 06, 2012, 03:11:36 PM

Jeez Al,that almost brought tears to my eyes, big red was a real player in the ag. business my first two tractors a 300 utility and a farmall "C" were IH then I turned green and never looked back.Almost every town had a IH,JD,and MF dealer and still stocked parts,but that was old times. Frank C.

Al_Smith · March 06, 2012, 08:11:33 PM

To add to that most of those ag dealers sold chainsaws too .You might find McCulloch at one and Homelite at the one down the road ,Pioneer or Remington at the next town .

Yep I remember them all ,Farmalls,Minnies ,AC ,Oliver .New Holland bailers when had engines on them .AC/Gleaner combines both pull types and 8 foot header self propelled with no cabs . A 4 bottom plow or a 12 foot disc was considered large .

A lot's changed over the years but the memory still lives on .