This seems like a real good deal...anyone have any info on this company or this splitter...
http://omni-mfg.com/Speeco-35-ton-BS-1450-OHV-Vertical-Horizontal-Log-Splitter-P945323.aspx
I have it under the huskee name from tsc. Love it. The detent valve takes some time to warm up, it will return before retracting the cylinder all the eay, but two or three bucked pieces and she us all warmed up and runs like a champ. Does this more in colder weather, hyd fluid is cold and thicker I imagine.
Cheaper items like hydraulic band fittings in a couple places, but overall would recommend and buy again. Good brigs engine.
I have the same machine under the TSC paint. Can not complain. I would buy again if I was in the market.
Speeco is now owned by Blount We sell three models, a 22 ton, 28 ton, and a 6 ton electric, under the Oregon name. Other than some early coupling failures due to engine/pump misalignment they have been good.
I have a 28-ton Huskee from TSC. I've split more than four years with it, with few problems. Only thing I've replaced has been the filter and the return hydraulic line that developed a bulge. Had to re-weld the wedge last year after it was cracked. I've split 40"+ diameter wood with it, too. Paid about $1600 for it when I purchased it. No complaints and I would buy another one.
Quote from: mojamboo on April 25, 2013, 08:30:29 PMThe detent valve takes some time to warm up, it will return before retracting the cylinder all the eay, but two or three bucked pieces and she us all warmed up and runs like a champ.
I have a cub cadet splitter and it does just about the same thing. Takes a few minutes to get it warmed up. It will stop on the return stoke before it's all the way back.
I have the 22ton from Tsc. Make sure the motor mounts are tight. Everything was loose when first bought. The fuel tank broke, so I mounted one to the side of the motor, works much better and holds a lot more gas. Starts well in cold weather, although I use synthetic oil.
Cheers pep
I bought a 3 pt hitch adapter from speeco. Poorly made, welds are breaking because they have very poor penetration and are small.
Looks like china junk. I would be very hesitant before buying from them again.
I have that exact machine and can promise you it's not junk. It's gone through at least 40 cords of hardwood firewood, including plenty of elm stumps & crotches, and never missed a beat. That's not to say there aren't things I would made changes to, but they're nothing serious. For instance, I wish the ram would extend about 1 more inch so that I didn't have to wrestle with stringy wood that didn't split completely. I solved this by putting a piece of 1" lumber at the base. I also wish the wheels were further back along the machine so firewood didn't fall down onto the fenders and dent them up, but that in no way prevents the machine from doing its job.
I think SpeeCo is assembled in the USA from parts made in China, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: Axe Handle Hound on April 26, 2013, 08:54:03 AM
I have that exact machine and can promise you it's not junk. It's gone through at least 40 cords of hardwood firewood, including plenty of elm stumps & crotches, and never missed a beat. That's not to say there aren't things I would made changes to, but they're nothing serious. For instance, I wish the ram would extend about 1 more inch so that I didn't have to wrestle with stringy wood that didn't split completely. I solved this by putting a piece of 1" lumber at the base. I also wish the wheels were further back along the machine so firewood didn't fall down onto the fenders and dent them up, but that in no way prevents the machine from doing its job.
I think SpeeCo is assembled in the USA from parts made in China, but I could be wrong.
I can't speak for anything else they sell but we have had to make several repairs to the unit I bought. It's not even a year old and hasn't been used that much and then only with a box blade or bog har.
http://www.everythingattachments.com/Tractor-3-point-quick-hitch-by-Speeco-p/speeco-cat1-qh.htm
I think that is the most resounding thumbs up for something that I have seen in a while. Looked at the splitter in question on the site and immediately thought it should have a 4 way adapter and then noticed that they sell two for each, a fixed cheaper and an adjustable more expensive model. I personally think that an adapter like that should come with the machine but the world is a different place than I would have it.
I have a 28 ton Oregon which is made by Speeco. See my review in this forum. I've had issues; some operator error, some poor design, and some faulty materials.
Raider Bill - I considered buying that Quick Hitch. It was the best example of welding by a blind person I'd ever seen. I took a pass. I do own the splitter but mine runs off the hydraulics on my Kubota tractor, not a separate motor like the one shown. It's a great splitter. I use the wood trick too but I keep a couple of different lengths handy. It speeds up the travel time on shorter pieces.
Quote from: flashhole on June 28, 2013, 12:51:43 PM
Raider Bill - I considered buying that Quick Hitch. It was the best example of welding by a blind person I'd ever seen. I took a pass. I do own the splitter but mine runs off the hydraulics on my Kubota tractor, not a separate motor like the one shown. It's a great splitter. I use the wood trick too but I keep a couple of different lengths handy. It speeds up the travel time on shorter pieces.
Roger that! seems everytime I use it something bends or breaks. I bought it online hind sight I should have sent it back and kept looking.
I have the 22 Ton Huskee branded one from TSC. This its 3rd season and I've had some minor issues with it, nothing major. The coupler between the motor and pump came loose once, simple fix with allen wrench and some loctite. The motor mount bolts came loose, again a simple fix with some loctite and socket/wrench. The fitting on the inlet side of the pump dripped right after I got it, just needed tightened up.
Mine sometimes, is hard to start once its warm. If I shut it down to take a break, sometimes its hard to start back up. I've never taken the time to look into this one as its never not started and left me hanging; its just been difficult and extended my break a little longer.
I have the 22 ton TSC version, and couldn't be happier. I've processed 24 cords through mine in 2 years without any problems. Starts on the 1st or second pull (briggs.) I put a log catcher on mine, which is great for grabbing the halves of big logs, and for resting logs on that are in the batters box.
Great ergonomics, people love them, especially for the price.
Have the TSC version and have split over 50 cords with it. Love it. Works very well and starts first pull even after 3 years.
My opinion might not count because I bought the version w/o the motor and hooked it to the hydraulics on my tractor. Great splitter in my opinion.
I have a Honda motor on my Huskee. I started it up a couple months ago for the first time in at least three months. It started on the first pull, too. 8)
Quote from: pep on April 26, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
I have the 22ton from Tsc. Make sure the motor mounts are tight. Everything was loose when first bought. The fuel tank broke, so I mounted one to the side of the motor, works much better and holds a lot more gas. Starts well in cold weather, although I use synthetic oil.
Cheers pep
Do you have any pictures of your replacement fuel tank? I would appreciate seeing what you have! Thanks!
Speeco and Huskee are made by the same company, Speeco, I would get a Speeco or Huskee, however I wouldn't want ione with a Briggs and Stratton engine, especially one that's a verticle shaft one, to me that's just a lawn mower engine and in 20 years I have had 20 Briggs engines on 20 lawn mowers, that's why when I buy one I'm going to get the North Star 22 ton, here at my house 22 is all I'll need and all North Stars have Honda horizontal shaft engines.
Oh and thank you to the admin people that approved my membership.
wolfen,welcome to the forum.
Thanks:) I hope I can contribute to this place too, even though I'm a private person not a company I've been alive for 50 years and so far they haven't found anything I can't fix :)
I bought a 25 ton Speeco last year from Big R in Klamath Falls, Ore. It has a Honda engine, the 22 ton and 30 splitters had Briggs on them. Have split probably 100 cord of Juniper ( Junipers have lots of big limbs, therefore lots of Knots). I have not have had any problems with it . Lol my only complaint is that the wedge doesn't come close enough to the butt plate, I have to grab a hunk of wood and put in front of the butt plate on some of the tougher logs. Ed
Add a spacer to the butt plate.
what he said a spacer is the way to go, I was always taught when I was a kid to NEVER put two logs on any spliter or one could fly up and knock ya for a loop, and trust me if those old guys in NW Arkansas said it it MUST be the Gods honest truth
I bought my Huskee 22 T used. I found it a little south of me for $750. 2 years later and about 15 cords I can't fuss at all. At times I've had some really junky stuff on it and thing would bog down, but it kept pushing till it got it split. It's never fail to start, or do anything I've asked it to do. But I have wondered on some of those slow downs in the bad stuff, when it will push the base plate off. The stress there has to be enormous. But I love mine. Probably the best $750 I've ever spent for the sake of a 70 years old abused back. :D
plt
It is kicking down to the second stage of the pump when it will "bog down". In time, you may see some effects of that extra force but just reinforce those parts when needed.
After 28 years, my splitter has remolded a few places as a result. But no failure yet.
Ok guys I appreciate all the comments about Speeco's due to current financial problems I might not be able to afford the Northstar besides, my mind got changed when I read the research on the two Northstar says max log diameter is 16 inches, so I asked them they said the max is 16 inches the Huskee says max log diameter is ANY.
I still prefer the Honda engine over the Briggs, but I have found only 3 or 4 bad reviews about the 22 ton with the briggs, but either way Honda or Briggs mi choice has changed to the Huskee, unless or course I can find a local Gravley dealer :) I really like the idea of everything up front and the wood split in back, but at the same time at least the Huskee has a Full I beam
I bought a Speeco 22 ton in Oct. 2012. I have had zero issues with it outside of hard starting when cold. It has the Briggs engine and I have thought about putting a bigger gas tank on it as well. I have a 5 gallon tank from a mower that would work great. It has split anything I have tried so far.
Even if the Briggs engine goes on oa Huskee or Sppeco if I buy one, its gonna be easy to change and easy to ind a replacement and cheaper than a horizontal shaft engine, I just hate spending money on something that should last longer than my lawnmower engines do.
If somebody could tell me honestly that the log splitter Briggs is better than the lawnmower Briggs it would definitely set my mind at easy
Have had a Briggs 8hp horizontal engine on my wood splitter since Jan. 1985. Except for mice chewing on the ignition module wire, that is the ONLY thing that has gone wrong in all those years. Starts on the first pull choke on, and I don't run it WOT.
Have logged 801 hours as of yesterday. Change oil every 50 hours.
I've been very impressed with this engine all along. And there were a good number of years that I wasn't impressed with Briggs engines. This one has certainly changed my mind.
Wolfen
Where are you located? Pls go to your profile and give us a leg up where you are. thanks
I have a Briggs OHV 6.5 hp on my splitter. brought it new around 2001. I have used it ALOT. I split alot of big stuff. The only complaint I have is the way it starts when it's below 40°,which is when I use it the most. Summer time a 5 year old can start it. No reason to pull it hard,just a real easy pull and it starts. But cold out,it's a bear. I have put synthetic oil in it,which has helped,but I still have to crank on it. I just keep using my magentic heater on it and I put an old blanket on top of the motor to keep the heat in and it will start like it does on the 4th of July. ;D
Thanks guys that helps a lot cause I really need a good log spliter, and all I have to go by here is you tube videos and personnel reviews, knowing a Briggs 6.5 will last that long sets my mind at ease cause the 22 ton is probably all I'll be able to afford and it comes with the Briggs 6.5
Beenthere I'll update my profile here in a minute as soon as I get done with this post
:edit: ok guys I just updated my profile, and on the map I pined my location down to my house :)
I'm in Va Beach Va, about half a mile from the end of the runway of NAS Oceana, in a modular home in the Cardinal Estates subdivision, for those of you who are experts with Google maps I'm the third house on the right on swallow drive when you turn onto it from Old Clubhouse
You're close to me in VB. I live off Holland Road, just Past Dam Neck, same side as the paintball park.
Welcome to the Forestry Forum. :)
I have a 1981 speeco. Only thing replaced is a valve in the B&S engine. Has split about 200 full cords.
I bought the 28ton Speeco 3 months ago and have done about 16 cord. The 5 position choke on the B/S starts on the first pull. (it does reside in a heated garage though).
I haven't timed it with a watch, but it seems like it will run almost 3 hours on a tank. I've never ran it out of gas yet, you will get tired before you do.
Quote from: clww on December 06, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
You're close to me in VB. I live off Holland Road, just Past Dam Neck, same side as the paintball park.
Welcome to the Forestry Forum. :)
I know exactly where you live then, you've probably seen m driving down Holland too, in my city truck, I'm the one with the galvanized home made fence tool rack and the heavy yellow trailer behind me. and trust me I'm not going 45 down that road cause im an A**, that Chevy is made in China so I'm scared to go 50 :)
Oh I checked TSC's website, the 28 ton with the Honda eng is not onm there anymore and I can;t afford the 35 ton so I'm probally gonna have the 22 ton, but after some reading I have found that the Honda engines might not be a good as I thought,a small engine mechanic told m the internals of them are sometimes subject to breaking, so that makes them no better or worse than the Briggs.
Honda has two series, GC and GX. The GX is arguably one of the best, it has set the standard for the industry. The GC is a lower cost consumer throw away unit which is what will be found on entry level splitters.
wolfen,I would call TSC and see if they had one. never know. I just looked at those splitter. Seem like one was $1000 than the 35 ton was $2000. They had the I beam that ran the full length too.
I've called and went over there, they can order one but all they have in stock is the 22 ton, you see this is a mostly urban area so log spliters ain't exactly a must have
Wow, maybe I just got a lemon but I bought a Huskee 22 ton from TSC a couple of years ago and it was a total piece of junk!
They told me who was the "authorized warranty service center". Those folks had no idea that they were the chosen ones for SpeeCo in my area. :D
I went ahead and re-built my 26 year old Duerr splitter while I was waiting on someone to decide to do something with the Huskee. When I got it back it was still a weak kneed piece of junk, so I sold it to my neighbor for $200 less than I gave for it (I don't think he likes me much anymore).
I have absolutely nothing good to say about these splitter's, and would not recommend them to anyone.
I don't know, maybe I just expect a little more quality, and customer service for my hard earned money.
Andy
If you don't like it because of eth engine, I saw a you tube video that makes me want the bigger one, but thanks to the wife needing back surgery, bills and other stuff I'm gonna end up with the 22 ton and the 6.75 Briggs , so thankfully I know engines and modifications enough to maybe change it to a bigger one if I need to.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but..
Why, other then to be Tim Taylor, does it need a bigger engine?
I have the 22 T speeco and it splits everything I ask it to and doesn't use much fuel?
I am not trying to say that it shouldn't just not seeing the benefits???
I borrow a friend's TSC Huskee 22t w/ Briggs engine often. I have never had an issue w/ it. I think between the owner & I, we have put over 100 cords of wood through it and it runs w/o a problem. I will buy the same model when I can afford one myself.
kwatvrider,welcome to the forum.
Quote from: sawguy21 on December 07, 2013, 12:32:23 PM
Honda has two series, GC and GX. The GX is arguably one of the best, it has set the standard for the industry. The GC is a lower cost consumer throw away unit which is what will be found on entry level splitters.
Excellent point,
People get blinded by the Honda name, the GX is excellent.
The GC is probably no better than a B/S. I have always not held B/S in high regard even though I have never really had problems with one. I guess kind of a mental image type of thing. The 5 position choke IMHO is much better than the ones with no choke and a primer.
I have a Speeco splitter with the throw away Honda on it. My experience with the throw away Honda and the Briggs is that you will throw the Briggs away long before the cheap Honda. Ed
Quote from: upsnake on December 10, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question but..
Why, other then to be Tim Taylor, does it need a bigger engine?
I have the 22 T speeco and it splits everything I ask it to and doesn't use much fuel?
I am not trying to say that it shouldn't just not seeing the benefits???
I'd change it to a bigger engine if the original either blew,quit, or didn't make enough pressure to split what I get.
I've seen you tube videos with the 6.75 on the Huskee and it splits just about anything, which is a plus to me because liek I said before due to financial requirements that's the only one I can affo9rd
Ah gotcha. That makes sense.
Ya i have only had a handful of pieces ever that it would "wouldn't" split, and I just backed it out and moved the wedge to a different piece of wood and it powered through it.
Without other modifications, a bigger engine won't help much. The pump output and pressure remains the same and cylinder size is fixed. I tried modifying a 5 hp unit, the boss had installed a 4 way splitter but the machine didn't have the oomph needed. I installed an 8 hp and cranked down the relief valve, good thing the ram bent before a hose blew in my face.
Quote from: sawguy21 on December 11, 2013, 10:31:11 PM
Without other modifications, a bigger engine won't help much. The pump output and pressure remains the same and cylinder size is fixed. I tried modifying a 5 hp unit, the boss had installed a 4 way splitter but the machine didn't have the oomph needed. I installed an 8 hp and cranked down the relief valve, good thing the ram bent before a hose blew in my face.
Well thanks for THAT bit of info, I totally forgot about needing a bigger pump for a bigger engine, would I need a bigger ram too?
Not being sarcastic, just asking in case.
Just picked up a brand new Husky 22t w/ B&S engine today. My father-in-law's girlfriend bought it for him for Christmas. I wish it was mine though but I am just storing it temporarily!
Are you sure it's for him?? I won't tell. :Mrs_Claus:
I would store it in the yard next to my unsplit log pile. If he asked, I would tell him the warranty period is running, so you figured you would help him out by seeing if it had any warranty issues. wink wink
I really wish I could try it out but promised to just hide it until Christmas. It sure is tempting though. Always fun to try out a new toy! :snowball:
I'm getting the Huskee version next week :) the loan I applied for that is gonna keep me from losing everything came through, and its gonna pay of so much I'll actually have the 999 that TSC wants for it :)