MS 880 order canceled!!!

Greenhighlander · April 24, 2021, 10:09:57 AM

When I bought my 395 last year the guy wanted me to pay for it up front . I told him not a chance . He then asked for half as a deposit . Then 1/4 . I said no I am not giving you anything until I see the saw . Within 3 weeks he called and told me my saw was in and I happily went and bought it .
The way this particular dealer is I knew giving him money up front would actually only delay my getting the saw. What would his hurry be once he had his money?

Anyway good luck to the OP on getting yourself a saw .

sawguy21 · April 24, 2021, 11:34:59 AM

You can't blame him, if you don't come back he is out of pocket with a product he may not be able to move. We learned the hard way. If you are a long time customer then it's different, if he doesn't trust you it's time to find another dealer.

Greenhighlander · April 25, 2021, 08:30:34 AM

Quote from: sawguy21 on April 24, 2021, 11:34:59 AM
You can't blame him, if you don't come back he is out of pocket with a product he may not be able to move. We learned the hard way. If you are a long time customer then it's different, if he doesn't trust you it's time to find another dealer.

I agree with your point . I just don't pay for things that aren't in my hand . However he has his supply set up is his problem , not mine.
The problem is he is absolutely the kind of person who would take my money and I still not have the saw 6 months or more later and would have endless excuses for why the saw isn't there and why he couldn't refund me my money. He has proven this many times which is why I no longer buy anything there . I am all for supporting local but he has made me happy to order stuff online.

Spike60 · April 26, 2021, 05:45:16 AM

The deposit thing can go both ways. If it's an item the dealer doesn't normally stock, then asking for money up front is not out of line. In part that depends on how well you know the customer. Sometimes you know the guy well enough that you don't think twice about it. Then there are guys you know ell enough that you absolutely get money up front because they are FOS.

But any deposit should have an agreed on expiration date. In the case of the OP, it's wrong to hold his money this long. If that saw hasn't shipped, the dealer hasn't laid out a cent for it. On the other hand, a deposit will only hold something for so long. Had a guy put $1000 down to hold an Exmatk Lazer, (my last), while he got the rest of the money. Told him I'd hold it for a week. If he couldn't come up with the money, I'd of course give him back his full deposit, but the machine goes back on the line. (he's picking it up today:) )

offrink · April 26, 2021, 10:56:44 AM

Another call in and they are getting a shipment in, just not my saw. Still hasn't shipped from Europe. I told them to either call the distributor and get me a date, give me his number and I will, or refund my money and I'll go someplace else. I get all my chains their and any repairs get done through there. They know me, my kids, and my dog by name.

Spike60 · April 26, 2021, 12:31:22 PM

"Some place else" better have the saw in stock, or you'll be in the same boat.

offrink · April 26, 2021, 10:41:49 PM

I have family in Europe. I could even have them buy and ship one.

offrink · May 21, 2021, 06:51:50 PM

Finally got my saw in! Went to pick it up and the bar was lost in the mail. Box made it but no bar. 36" and up bars are back ordered 1+ month out. At least I can put it to use on the sawmill.

Walnut Beast · December 31, 2021, 12:49:03 AM

If anybody knows what are the main differences between the 880 and 881 ? How does the 880 run with a 48" ?. Is there a noticeable difference or night and day between a 880 vs 661 with same bar and chain ? Looking at getting a 880 that's available

sawguy21 · December 31, 2021, 03:09:01 PM

There is an ad on fb for new MS880'S for $99.95!! HUH ??? :D Quantities are limited, I guess so.
EDIT They are MS881's and the ads appear to be originating in England.

lxskllr · December 31, 2021, 03:26:21 PM

I'll buy a pallet of them for that price!

doc henderson · December 31, 2021, 04:38:02 PM

It took me a while to gain respect and love for my 880. It is growing on me. it is gaining steam with breaking in. I got a 660 and took it back in trade for the 880. I had lots of trouble with starting warm (impossible at times) with the 660. I think I made a thread on my 880 early on.

Walnut Beast · December 31, 2021, 06:59:33 PM

Thanks for the information Doc 👍

doc henderson · January 01, 2022, 06:17:46 AM

880 with a 60-inch bar, cutting a 4-foot oak crosscut, ripping a 4-foot maple, and finally a little ERC.

Walnut Beast · January 01, 2022, 06:34:04 AM

Awesome Doc! Do you have any other bar sizes you like on the big dog

doc henderson · January 01, 2022, 06:36:47 AM

36 is the smallest bar for the 880. my next saw is the 046 mag. it has a 20 I never use, a 25 that is my fav. and a 36 I got before I had the 880. it was my all around saw for 20 years, till I started thinking I needed more. 8).

I am happy with the 880 now, and I think the original disappointment was from high expectations, and pre-break in.

the big bar has some quirks. if you are trying to fall a tree with it (holding parallel to the ground), the bar can flex enough that if the tension on the chain is not enough, it can drop out of the groove. If the bar is contacting 4 feet of wood, you make gentle changes in pressure to not stall the saw, and or rock the bar to decrease the wood in contact with the bar. I also have a skip chain to keep the rpms up. I think it is still gaining power. Not a bad idea if you have a lot to cut, to plan it so the weight of the saw and bar work to your advantage, and or have a few macho helpers that want to run the saw so you can tag team.

doc henderson · January 01, 2022, 06:56:39 AM

found it.

ms880 dog in Chainsaws (forestryforum.com)

Walnut Beast · January 01, 2022, 06:57:12 AM

Nice to know! The one I've got my name on has a 48" bar on it. I've got a couple huskys a 55 and a 371 and I think the 880 with that bar and a little smaller one would be pretty handy for the bigger stuff.

Skeans1 · January 01, 2022, 10:20:01 AM

If I'm running my 60 the fat belly cannon in the brush I'm packing two saws normally something with a 36 as well to start the cut. There's two 88 killers that Echo is something else on the mill running long bar it actually oils long bar a lot better with more power/torque available.

Walnut Beast · January 01, 2022, 07:51:03 PM

Nice pictures for sure 👍

Walnut Beast · January 01, 2022, 08:01:05 PM

Are those Cannon bars worh the extra cost over the regular bars ?

Skeans1 · January 01, 2022, 08:54:31 PM

Quote from: Walnut Beast on January 01, 2022, 08:01:05 PM
Are those Cannon bars worh the extra cost over the regular bars ?

Oh yes if you're falling timber they're a lot more stable in the cut as well as the design changes how the cutters engage the wood.

Walnut Beast · January 01, 2022, 10:51:46 PM

Thanks. Good to know 👍

Walnut Beast · January 03, 2022, 02:35:12 AM

Doc how is the starting and idling on your 880

doc henderson · January 03, 2022, 03:02:29 AM

not bad. it idles fine after 20 seconds of warm up. it has the compression release. get a good grip, as if it catches and pulls the handle through you finger it hurts. It is what you would expect from a bigger saw, and after a small bit of time with it, you will do great. It is good to really get your foot on the bottom of the rear handle, and L hand on the front handle. give a "smart" pull. It has mass with a long bar. and is front heavy, so I try to find a spot to be sure the bar does not get in the dirt. I do not always engage the chain break on starting. I think anyone named @Walnut Beast will do fine.