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Started by jerrymidd, October 04, 2024, 07:32:48 PM

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jerrymidd

Hi All,
I just picked up a Garrett Tree farmer I think model 10 with a Gearmatic winch. I have a few questions which winch is it, and how does it work? It has 2 master cylinders one for in and one for out when you engage the PTO, how do you make it go free spool to pull out. The previous owner said it was stuck in the in mode and the sliders are right at the winch so I am scared to engage the PTO for fear of breaking something. 
Any help would be great.

62oliver

I can't help you with model.
If you look at your last pic, the line going to the centre of the cover, that is to your clutch, ("in mode".)
When you apply pressure to that line it activates the clutch to winch in.
The other line goes to that little cylinder on top right of winch in same pic. That one operates the brake. When you apply fluid to that one it releases the brake.
The brake is automatically applied by spring pressure. 
It looks to me maybe your line to clutch has been modified with a "live swivel"? Thats a mod that some do to prevent fluid leaks.
There are videos online showing how the Gearmatic works, they are simple winches to work on. You will probably have to take that end cover off to free things up. These winches don't like sitting around, it causes lots of problems, which you are about to experience. When they are working well they are a good winch, but have caused many to question life choices when they don't work well.
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thecfarm

I could use one that size.
Still have your TJ?
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jerrymidd

Quote from: thecfarm on October 05, 2024, 07:11:21 AMI could use one that size.
Still have your TJ?
I sold my TJ. It was to big for my intended use. But the coolness of it made it hard for me to sell. lol. I watched this little Garrett all summer on MP, could not take seeing it on there any more so I went and bought it. It will be the perfect size for my firewood gathering.

jerrymidd

Quote from: 62oliver on October 05, 2024, 06:58:22 AMI can't help you with model.
If you look at your last pic, the line going to the centre of the cover, that is to your clutch, ("in mode".)
When you apply pressure to that line it activates the clutch to winch in.
The other line goes to that little cylinder on top right of winch in same pic. That one operates the brake. When you apply fluid to that one it releases the brake.
The brake is automatically applied by spring pressure.
It looks to me maybe your line to clutch has been modified with a "live swivel"? Thats a mod that some do to prevent fluid leaks.
There are videos online showing how the Gearmatic works, they are simple winches to work on. You will probably have to take that end cover off to free things up. These winches don't like sitting around, it causes lots of problems, which you are about to experience. When they are working well they are a good winch, but have caused many to question life choices when they don't work well.
Thanks for the info. I will make sure to work on it in the morning when I have a fresh mind. Lol.

Nealm66

Can't you just take the line off and then it's fine if it's spooling in? If it's like the gearomatic 19 you can take the outside cover off on the band side and reconnect the line and as long as it's not under load you might be able to diagnose it a little bit. 

mudfarmer

Cool skidder! That will be a great firewood rig
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