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Did something dumb today.

Started by firefighter ontheside, February 26, 2019, 10:48:19 PM

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thecfarm

Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

trapper

Happy birthday and don't wear the new glasses for outside work.
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thecfarm

thank you, trapper. 
Good idea, but hard to do.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Peter Drouin

A&P saw Mill LLC.
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firefighter ontheside

Yeah,Brent, that's definitely the reason for the steel plates covering the spots in studs with wires.  I thought about saying that the other day, but I figured you knew that.   :) :)
Is that an 8/4 stringer?
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Resonator

Not just wires, put plates over where the water supply lines run too. Hitting one of those with a screw or nail makes a very bad day. (I've never hit one, but I've done plenty of other dumb things). ;D 
Not a bad idea to take pictures - measurements during construction of open stud walls where wires and pipes run before closing it up. Did that on a bathroom remodel job last year, just in case we ever have to do future changes.
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Crossroads

I've hit those plates many times with Sheetrock screws and was glad they were there. Glad you found the issue before it became a disaster. 
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DbltreeBelgians

Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 05, 2023, 07:48:17 AM
Yeah,Brent, that's definitely the reason for the steel plates covering the spots in studs with wires.  I thought about saying that the other day, but I figured you knew that.   :) :)
Is that an 8/4 stringer?
@firefighter ontheside 
No Bill it's just shy of 7/4 but the screw head counter sunk about a 1/4" in the ash stringer. That was enough to make its way to the hole where the romex passed through.
I'm in the process of lining the walls with galvalume colored metal barn siding and the ceiling with bright white shop liner metal. I figured the galvalume color wouldn't show the dirt and dust as much and the white would brighten the area up. I'm moving my Logan lathe and Bridgeport mill into this addition to free up space in my main shop area. Kind of my fab shop area I guess. When I get it completed I'll post a follow up picture in this thread of "Did something un-dumb today" ;D

Brent

Old Greenhorn

When you do photos I want to see that lathe and what configuration and vintage you have. I have owned 3 logans and still have one left. I may have some spare parts for you that I didn't find when I sold the last one. I used to have headstocks, tailstocks, spindles, cross slides and other parts surplus to my needs. Not sure what's left. Them are good little machines.
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About 4 years ago a new neighbor moved in and started worked on this custom house some architect designed and built a decade ago. They had a funny odor in the upstairs bathroom. So he cut a hole in the sheetrock and found black mold. Long story shorter, he wound up doing a full tearout of all walls, tiles, and fixtures. Found a drain pipe in the wall somebody ran a sheetrock screw through and it dripped for decades. Bug damage in the stubs too. Full new bathroom including all fixtures and tiles, studs, sills, the whole nine. Just for one little screw inside a wall. Food for thought.
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I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

rusticretreater

So put off doing all those home projects just in case?  Got it.  8)
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Southside

Saw a video the other day showing how modern impact drivers will slam a screw right through those plates without skipping a beat. 
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thecfarm

Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

doc henderson

Brent, someone must be looking out for you!
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

SawyerTed

My dear bride wants a fall garden.  

I used the rotary cutter and cut the grass last week.  After a few days of drying I figured it was ready over the weekend to till it with the 6' pto driven rotary tiller.  

Well the gearbox on the tiller went to where all good gearboxes go when they die.  I smelled the gear oil but didn't see any from the seat.  When it quit turning the tines and making "that noise"  I stopped and inspected.  The oil had left out the back.  ::) 

That was dumb enough...

BUT there's more.. 

I shopped for parts.  Total repair parts will be near $1,000.  Wanting to be sure about options I shopped for a new rotary tiller.  Most were $3,000 ish.  I found Agri Supply in Garner has a light duty 6' version for $2,100.  So I called, gave the stock number and was assured that they had 9 in the equipment yard.  

With that assurance, I drove 2.5 hours one way to find they had 9 of the $3,100 versions.  Too much for me.  

I came home, got the disc harrow out of the woods and disked the garden spot.  It worked up good.  Used the cultivating tractor to make lists and put in fertilizer.  Could have been done before lunchtime.  As it was I finished about a half hour ago.  The heat index was 100° which didn't help my disposition at all. :D

Should have done it that way 3 days ago..

Did I say I love my wife?   
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doc henderson

I have a 5-foot Agri I bought 30 years ago.  1 set of replacement tines.  Made in Italy I think and sold by JD before they decided to make their own green version.  It was 1,00.00 buck back then.
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

SawyerTed

My 6' Tar River/King Cutter/County Line tiller was $1,200 in 2010 when I bought my tractor.  

It's been used pretty hard for gardens and food plots multiple times a year.  My maintenance has been adequate at least until now.  Maybe adequate wasn't enough.  
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firefighter ontheside

The brakes on my 17 F350 have been squealing for a little while, so I knew it was time for brakes.  The truck has 90,000 miles.  I debated about doing it myself, but finally decided to do it.  Started taking the first tire wheel off and things went downhill quickly.  My battery impact would not take the nuts off.  I couldn't break them loose with a socket and breaker bar.  Got out the tire iron that came with the truck and you can see what happened with that.  Finally I had to go back to the breaker bar and use a 5' cheater.  I think the tire shop that put my tires on got a little over zealous with torquing the nuts.  Tire would not come off until I put a 2x4 against the inside of the wheel and hit it with a sledge from the other side.  Got the caliper off and the pads were not as bad as I thought they were gonna be.  Took off the caliper bracket and found that one of the slide pins was locked in place, full of rust.  Had to work hard to get them out.  Called Oreillys and off I went to get pins.  I decided to get 4 of them.  Good thing I did because the other side was the same way.  I managed to not bust any knuckles and now have good working brakes again.

 

 
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Crusarius

I would be so happy if they would just got to a fixed caliper with dual piston. then the pads would move and the slides would not need to. Plus the stopping power would be so much better.

I hope you anti seized your lugnuts before you put them back on. I know this is a very controversial topic. I have lubed all of my lugnuts and never had one come off or even loosen up. Proper torque procedure is very important.

Resonator

I thought that story with the bent tire iron was going to end up like years ago on my old antique International pickup lug nuts, (or at least 1 old semi trailer I dealt with). Fight, fight, fight, and nothing comes loose. 
Then see clean thread ABOVE the nut. :o
And realize I'm just tightening a left hand thread. :D
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Featured in the soundtrack of the "Out of the Woods" YouTube video:
"Epic 30ft Long Monster Cypress and Oak Log! Freehand Sawing"

Proud owner of a Wood-Mizer 2017 LT28G19

aigheadish

I've been pretty amazed at how stuck on a wheel can get. I haven't had too much trouble with lugnuts but I've spent too much time kicking the heck out of tires or wheels to get them off the posts. 
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Tom K

I had a similar situation with the wife's car over the weekend. I'd noticed her brakes where squealing as she was pulling out of the driveway. She can be, well, hard on brakes. At a touch over 60k miles I figured it was about time since that's what she got out of the first set on her old car. So I spend the money and got new pads and rotors all the way around.

I finally got around to getting it in the barn over the weekend, jacked the front up and pulled both tires. Hmm, pads are only half worn and the rotors look good yet, the backs must be shot. Moved to the back and pulled the tires, those rotors look decent also but the pads were a pain to get off. Pads are still half also, but there was enough rust on them to not let them move freely in there holders. A little clean up and some grease and she's good to go. Now I have $400 worth of parts on the shelf I won't need for another year or two.

And to make it even better, the brakes on my car started to squeal yesterday. I think I'll pull some tires and check some stuff out before I ASSUME what I need and order parts.

sawguy21

@Resonator More than one tire jockey has peeled the studs off doing that with an impact gun. I almost made the same mistake on an early 60's Plymouth.
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Resonator

QuoteI've spent too much time kicking the heck out of tires or wheels to get them off the posts.
That's when you put the goop on the hub between the studs where it contacts the rim. (Being careful not to get any on where the brake pad rubs). So the rim doesn't corrode itself on. (Helps the next mechanic, which might be you). smiley_thumbsup
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Live music act of Sawing Project '23 & '24, and Pig Roast '19, '21, & '24
Featured in the soundtrack of the "Out of the Woods" YouTube video:
"Epic 30ft Long Monster Cypress and Oak Log! Freehand Sawing"

Proud owner of a Wood-Mizer 2017 LT28G19

Magicman

Every tire shop that I know of uses young bucks with air impacts to remove and replace tires.  All of the studs get stretched a bit each time.  :-X
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aigheadish

I'd only changed brakes a time or two when I tried on my old minivan. By hand I broke the stud and I was at a complete loss for what to do. It was then that I learned they were just a stud that poked through the hole in the rotor, no big whoops. 

Resonator- what is the goop? I change my wheels frequently for winter tires, it'd be nice to put some on here in a couple months.
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