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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2022, 02:16:48 PM »
I'm still one who has never done such a thing. Yet. It probably helps that I'm only on my second blade ever. ;D
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2022, 02:21:40 PM »
I've never run a mill but I have put my chain on backwards before...

My mind is having trouble picturing what you guys mean by backwards or inside out.

Are you saying the blade is on upside down? Like the tooth pitch makes a difference or there is a 7 shape to the teeth and it'll only cut when the 7 shape is oriented properly? Like if the 7 was moving down it will cut because of the angled part on the bottom of the 7 but won't cut if the 7 was moving up because of the flat spot? And, maybe it's backwards from how I have it and the flat part of the 7 does the cutting?

I don't know if that question makes sense... I can only compare, in my mind, with a bandsaw blade or chainsaw chain.
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2022, 03:41:32 PM »
I've never run a mill but I have put my chain on backwards before...
In the Game of Logging competitions, they start by handing each competitor a dull chain to fir their saw. They have to sharpen, install and tension it to use in the timed cutting events. My friend who is usually chief judge sometimes knows a competitor who is a bit of an experienced smart aleck. The chains get hand out in a ball and each cutter must untangle it. For the smart aleck he might get handed a chain that has been flipped inside out before balling up. It's good sport to see if the guy can figure it out and fix it, or if he gets dumbfounded. :D
 Chains going inside out doesn't happen much, blades being flipped happens a lot. Hopefully the OP has now gotten the point that almost all of us have had our 'issues' with this.
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2022, 09:31:26 PM »
When I was a kid I put a hack saw blade in backwards once. That's how you learn.
I put hacksaw blades in "backwards" all of the time. They cut better on the pull stroke in my opinion. An older friend got me started doing that.

I have never put one in with the teeth pointing towards the frame of the saw if that was the reference.
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2022, 11:10:06 PM »
Now that would be very awkward. Teeth cut on the forward or push stroke (for me).
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2022, 08:18:08 AM »
When I was a kid I put a hack saw blade in backwards once. That's how you learn.
I put hacksaw blades in "backwards" all of the time. They cut better on the pull stroke in my opinion. An older friend got me started doing that.

I have never put one in with the teeth pointing towards the frame of the saw if that was the reference.
I would assume most use a hack saw on the push stroke. Growing up with grandfathers shed full of tools I forget how everything is now. You can't put a saws all blade in wrong. Anyhow when a saw won't cut, look at the teeth.

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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2022, 03:14:56 PM »
You can't put a saws all blade in wrong.


Been doing that in my Sawzall for fpr 35 plus years, when cutting cutting vertical from overhead.

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« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2022, 09:13:44 PM »
You can't put a saws all blade in wrong.


Been doing that in my Sawzall for fpr 35 plus years, when cutting cutting vertical from overhead.

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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2022, 09:20:03 PM »
You do that on purpose and it cuts. There are times when a simple hack saw blade needs to cut on the pull stroke. Do you grind a new notch when you break the tang off? There are always exceptions.

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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2022, 09:23:59 PM »
 

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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2022, 10:22:28 PM »
Now that would be very awkward. Teeth cut on the forward or push stroke (for me).
I thought the same thing until I tried it. It works well for me. Kinda like the Japanese style hand saws are becoming much more prevalent in woodworking circles nowadays and they all cut on the pull stroke.
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2022, 10:44:07 PM »
I have met more than a couple of fine wood workers who flip their handsaws around and pull them by the blade for careful cuts. They say it gives them finer control. I've done it once or twice.
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Re: New blade burning not cutting.
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2022, 12:33:33 AM »
The Japanese saws have a different tooth profile of course.  I use one to separate turnings on the lathe.  It is a better, smoother cut but not great for all wood types.
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