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Shameless copy of another member's work
« on: April 29, 2021, 05:22:19 PM »
  Okay, I confess. I shamelessly copied MM's design for his Luke project to make the planters shown in the pictures below. I started with 2- 6' logs I bucked of a small Norway spruce I cut a few months ago. I was going to make it into a couple of 2X6's or such to make bus stops, outhouses or deer blinds.


 
   I squared off the bottom, flipped 180 sawed off the top, rotated 90* sawed off and set aside and cut 2 notches big enough to get my blade into the cut the block out.


 I left 3" on the end and 6" in the middle so when finished I could saw it in half and make 2-3' long planters. I put the sides back where they came from and screwed them into place. One side had a lot of tension and was hard to tighten back against the semi-cant it came off of. I repeated with the second log leaving 6" solid plugs at 2' and 4' so I could cut the finished piece into 3-2' planters. I should have cut one side thicker as it ran out on me slightly. I screwed the sides back on and cut into 3 separate planters. I just finished ahead of a rain shower so packed it in.


 

 
Weather permitting I will take a load of benches and such to the flea market this weekend and will include these and see if there is any interest in them. I will sell these or make them out of the customer's logs if he has a special log he wants to save.

   Thanks MM for the idea.
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2021, 06:53:07 PM »
EDIT:  5% commission goes to the Forestry Forum the Magicman.

Actually this is/was not my idea because it has been shown/done several times here on the FF, the last of which was by doc henderson.

Your items look very nice and should easily sell.
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2021, 07:12:08 PM »
  Since I ain't sold none yet and I am out of pocket the cost of the wood, screws, fuel and band sharpening does that mean they owe me money kinda like the IRS refunding previous years taxes when you lose money the next year? What do they call that - a tax credit or such?

Let me do some cyphering on all my sales now - .05 X $0 = ? :D
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2021, 10:05:01 AM »
FWIW, I was building various planters long before Luke was born. One of them I sort of wished I'd never built? It was from an old American Chestnut log I drug out of the woods by hand with a rope. I then plunge cut chainsaw holes down into the top and plugged the hollow log ends with similar old wood disc. It had three miniature roses in it for some years then fell apart. 
When I saw Lukes pop cooler my initial thought was how nice it was for MM to be working with his GS! I helped my GD build trivets to sell recently in my shop. She's in 5th grade, not HS. My secondar thought was that they went to far too much trouble to build it if the side were gonna be boards anyway. Just screw boards together? 
WV's version is bark sides and avoids Lukes patented pop cooler IMO, thus no commission is due? :D
I have seen several Applachian wooden troughs that I felt sorry for the builders who hollowed them. No sign of burning them out either? 
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2021, 05:16:52 PM »
My secondar thought was that they went to far too much trouble to build it if the side were gonna be boards anyway. Just screw boards together? WV's version is bark sides and avoids Lukes patented pop cooler IMO, thus no commission is due?
What gave you the idea that Luke's drink cooler was boards on the outside instead of the bark sides??  True the bark had slipped, but it was still the rounded bark side.  smiley_headscratch
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2021, 06:18:33 PM »
mine was from a scuzzy old cottonwood with no real future.  the less dense woods are eventually lighter and the thicker sides are better insulators.  can cover with a silver top tarp, like an emergency space blanket until ready to be used in a short post grad. get together.  i like the idea of using the top of the log for cover as well.  made our for ourselves, but did get a call from the trauma nurse from Wichita to buy it for a party, but they did not find transportation in time.  (pickup).
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2021, 06:49:51 PM »
The one that we built weighed what the log weighted so to transport it required some lifting help, think Kubota.   ;)  We could have shortened the "feet" or more which would have reduced the weight quite a bit.

We had quite a few inquiries so that may not be the only one that we make.  ::)
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2021, 09:30:40 PM »
I built an herb garden using a live oak log for my mother several years ago after seeing David Poston do something similar with a red oak log and a large pine.  The live oak has mostly rotted but still has some herbs in it but it no longer stands on legs but is on the ground decaying.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 08:00:23 AM »
Hey Luke- I take it all back.  :-[

We visited the greenhouse we like for wife's annuals on Friday and she also sells driftwood pieces and creations collected by a neighbor of mine which she fills with her flowers as well. He/she had several giraffes made from driftwood with flower cavities in their backs. A new thing he had was logs with hollows such as an owl or squirrel side hole in them and flowers peeking out all over. Probably local logger waste as this guys not that "work brickle", he lives off of this "found" stuff.  The Corps of Engineer's got after him for collecting driftwood off the nearby Cave Run Lake shores some years back. I see him now and then with his old Ranger PU and the back full of the stuff headed for florists and taxidermy shops. He also tears down old bldgs and builds crude benches, etc. for greenhouse sales. My wife and I always have our eye out for such forest jewels of old tree stumps to sit in her flower beds. One we still have always reminds the viewer of a small javelina/wild pig. Another is an oval slab of driftwood that found it's way to KY from Moosehead lake in ME. I carved dogwood blossoms on it and our name as an entrance greeting near our home=leans against a big WO tree base. 
I've never made a pop cooler... But I did make a bunch of wooden wheelbarrows for flowers which ended up years later as a pile of iron wheels in front of my shop after they all rotted away. :D 
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2021, 07:06:48 PM »
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2021, 08:38:36 AM »
I'm remembering having read about how the Chinese at first copied Delta-Rockwell woodworking machines then got chosen to make them for the parent company. 
Quite flattering, as it were.  :D
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2021, 07:57:23 PM »
  I went up and cut 8' and a 5' section out of the top of a poplar and cut the 8' piece in half. I was going to make a 4' and 2-2' planters but did not cut far enough at the end with my chainsaw on the 4' and broke the end plug trying to wiggle the center block out so I tossed it then when I  went to cut the 2-2' planters I overshot my mark and sawed the center out so ended up with one 4' planter. The bark is trying to peel out off one end and I may just go ahead and peel it. Oh well, such is life. I still have all my body parts and the mill is still intact and I have one more planter ready to sell. 
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Re: Shameless copy of another member's work
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2021, 08:22:52 PM »
 ::)  Amateur  :D
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2021, 08:30:36 PM »
   Sad but true but like the constipated patient finishing his 3rd glass of prune juice said "This too shall pass." ;)
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2021, 12:16:31 AM »
the constipated math teacher, used a slide ruler to work it out.  On my cooler I made all the long cuts, then segmented the center section (cant)  and then glued and screwed it back together.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2021, 01:44:29 AM »
 

 

here it is empty but with the thermostat at the low setting.



 

getting loaded for my birthday...  the cooler is getting loaded for my 60th,   :) smiley_beertoast

 

 

after a little defrosting.  bark now off.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2021, 07:53:44 AM »
 I didn't catch your B-day but hope you had a great day anyways.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2021, 08:13:35 AM »
thanks Ed, it was back in October, but that is when the pic was from.   :)
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2021, 08:25:27 AM »
Doc,

    I defer to your superior wisdom and craftsmanship and will throw out the patterns from the MM wannabee. I see you just squared the bottom, removed the sides, then cut your notch, removed the center then reattached the sides. I see you left the rounded top with adds a lot of character I feel. Well done. This rank amateur is going to try that next time. :D
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2021, 08:30:23 AM »
nice to find uses for cottonwood.  
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