I made a cut and then went to raise the head so I could return it for the next cut. Apparently I lowered the saw on accident instead of raised. When I pulled the saw, the back of the blade hit the log and the blade came off the wheels. At first I thought the blade broke, then I realized what had actually happened. The blade appeared undamaged, but I was leery about putting it back on. I figure at the least, some teeth got damaged. Who's done this?
Happens more times than I care to admit, forget which way to move dial. Blade should be ok. I like to finish a cut, turn the log raise the blade up about a 1/4 of a turn and pull back and do not see the bump sticking up till it catches the blade and everything comes to a stop. Or the all time bonehead, turn about a 4x 10 cant up on high side forget to raise up stops and have it fall over in the middle and jam the whole works up and end with a zig zag blade.
Nope, not me, never hit the right trigger instead of the right thumb button. ;) That's my story and I am sticking to it!!
After 11,500 hours, my blade door on the mast side has a jagged hole in it where countless blades have hit Because of various unintelligent moves. A common one for me is leaving the feed lever in the business position but having the speed control knob completely off. The lube mizer keeps squirting and, using pdiesel for lube, enough of it accumulates on the blade. Hit the auto clutch on and the blade spins out on the diesel causing it to fly off, just as it's winding up. I could go on for many chapters of Dumbness. Should write a book called Percy's Pinheaded Sawmilling Techniques.
When sawing or logging I have a prescription for one-dumb-aday and use it.
I've done it maybe twice since I've had my mill, then I started following what's written in the book!
When the blade exits the cut, disengage it for the gig back to the front! ;)
A better question might be "who hasn't done this........... Yet." :D :D
Thanks for the replies everybody. I enjoyed them all. The thing is, I always disengage. I must have disengaged and then tried to go back while it was slowing down.
This is why I am putting a "laser" on mine. I at least one time hit my setworks down button before I had cleared the back (near) end of the log and tried to stretch my blade.
"laser" indicator for sawmill. in Sawmills and Milling (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=105283.msg1639619#msg1639619)
Yeah, I have bumped the down toggle on my setworks after raising the head then lowered and knocked the blade off. Usually no damage is done, just a little embarrassment if others happen to be watching.
I'll take the 5th 😎😎😎😎😎
Been there done that multiple times.
No cure for it in my case as inattention is a constant trait of mine
Now we know why Cook always used plywood for blade covers. In recent years they caved in to the "me too" market pressure and went to steel covers. I'm lucky to have bought my mill before the change. I have yet to trash a blade by knocking it off on the return, despite having done it at least several times a year. I strive not to do this unless I have an audience.
au·di·ence Dictionary result for audience/ˈôdēəns/
noun
- 1.
the assembled spectators or listeners at a public event, such as a play, movie, concert, or sawmill demonstration.
Pete, I feel like you might have added that last part. Lol.
There are so many things you have to be aware of while milling, Being tired and hot can cause lose of focus.
ayup it happens
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 26, 2019, 10:48:19 PM
I made a cut and then went to raise the head so I could return it for the next cut. Apparently I lowered the saw on accident instead of raised. When I pulled the saw, the back of the blade hit the log and the blade came off the wheels. At first I thought the blade broke, then I realized what had actually happened. The blade appeared undamaged, but I was leery about putting it back on. I figure at the least, some teeth got damaged. Who's done this?
that's just nonsense. it's
NEVER happened in bullard, texas!
I looked closer at that blade today. One tooth was almost completely sheered off. I think I will not send that back to resharp.
Quote from: Crossroads on February 27, 2019, 08:54:58 AM
I'll take the 5th 😎😎😎😎😎
You are definitely not alone on that one.
Don't ask me how I know.
Gerald
Well, there is a saying on the haul road, that there is two kinds of truck drivers, those that have crashed and those that are going to.
Some things are just a whole lot alike, and yea I have done it, but I ain't admitting it.
Yep been there done that happens when I am in a hurry.
This has never ever happened to me......although I'm pretty sure that when it did happen that either the mill misunderstood my intentions and prematurely backed up or sensed the Head-Up switch contact as a Head-Back contact through some kind of inherent glitch or electrical impulse fault either of which results in a lot of cussing. Of course, there's always the possibility that somebody UP there thought I was working too hard and needed a rest.......and those are my top three stories and I'm sticking to them all!
Quote from: Alyeska Pete on February 27, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Now we know why Cook always used plywood for blade covers. In recent years they caved in to the "me too" market pressure and went to steel covers. I'm lucky to have bought my mill before the change. I have yet to trash a blade by knocking it off on the return, despite having done it at least several times a year. I strive not to do this unless I have an audience.
au·di·ence Dictionary result for audience
/ˈôdēəns/
noun
- 1.
the assembled spectators or listeners at a public event, such as a play, movie, concert, or sawmill demonstration.
I have a timber harvester looks like cooks but came well before them and it has the plywood panels. One time on site with a customer I threw a blade and it stuck in the plywood. I turned to the customer and said you now see why its plywood and not steel. He laughed and said it must have happened a time or two based on the holes in your plywood. I smiled and said it happens more than I like to admit.
Best part about plywood is I saved many blades and I can make new covers in no time at all.
I've done what the OP describes more times than I'd like to admit. Whether I try to put the band on and try it depends on what I'm cutting and if I can afford to risk a dive. If you put it on and get it turning and don't see any visible blurp in one spot, then try it slowly on wood. If it's good, run it. Just make sure to feed slow and cautious at first.
Quote from: Brad_bb on February 28, 2019, 08:32:12 AM
I've done what the OP describes more times than I'd like to admit. Whether I try to put the band on and try it depends on what I'm cutting and if I can afford to risk a dive. If you put it on and get it turning and don't see any visible blurp in one spot, then try it slowly on wood. If it's good, run it. Just make sure to feed slow and cautious at first.
Ive pondered putting mabey 3/8 plywood on the inside of my blade doors. Seen it done on many mills...Or I could just be more careful ;D ;D
Unless somebody saw it and states otherwise, no I have never done that! Just line I have never hit the down toggle on the set works with the blade in a kerf! :-X ::)
Quote from: samandothers on February 28, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
Unless somebody saw it and states otherwise, no I have never done that! Just line I have never hit the down toggle on the set works with the blade in a kerf! :-X ::)
That sounds exciting!
We always told the nervous boys getting stitches, and worried they might cry, "what happens in the ED, stays in the ED." Or another favorite, " If a man says something, and no woman is around to hear it, is he still wrong!" I think we are safe sharing our "learning experiences" here! :)
I dunno Doc, I always found that reminding them 'Chicks dig scars' usually worked well, if they were of a certain age bracket, say 11 to about 85 years of age. ;D :D
And NO, if a woman wasn't around to hear/see it, it didn't happen, (until she heard about it from 'her friend').
A "blade" describes various cutting devices that invariably hit every other freaking device in close proximity.
I keep coming back to these posts, primarily because a day seldom goes by without me doing something dumb.
this one should be as popular as the weather post, happens everyday. :D
If this were to happen to me me it usually wouldn't be the end of the log, it would be the hump or knot I forget about and don't raise the blade to clear it. That is "if" it were to happen to me...... (I did just exactly that Saturday with a new and potentially very good customer off bearing).
The odds of sawing into the log stops or clamp, knocking a blade off or forgetting to drop the toe boards is directly proportionate to the size of the audience and value of the log.
Well being a bit tired and a bit lazy at the end of the day, I did the dumbest thing ever, i consulted with the only occupation that allows you to be wrong 100% of the time and still have that job, you guessed it, the weather man. Clear skies over night, so no need to go dig out the metal sheeting to cover the days worth of sticker'ed lumber, will just do it in the morning. Well 1 foot of snow later, I now have SCD (snow covered drying), a close cousin to another disease with a similar acronym. As for what else I have done dumb lately, no one has that much time or desire to read that much in a single post...... :-\
Well, a really cold, dry snow may be good for dehydrating your lumber. We are supposed to get about 7" of just that this weekend so maybe I'll give it a try. :D
my mill is manual up and down via a crank, i've gone the wrong way twice now and threw the blade when returning to home position, both times when theres an audience of course
Yep, that's how I did it. Manual mill. Turned handle wrong way and yanked mill back toward other end.
I need to make an appointment with my doctor for misuse of my one-dumb-aday prescription. I used 3 yesterday.
Definitely hate to overdose on that prescription. Maybe your doctor just needs to up your dose.
I think if you are using 3 a day, you prob. need treatment. abuse potential is real!!! :D
Quote from: Rhodemont on March 04, 2019, 06:24:57 AM
I need to make an appointment with my doctor for misuse of my one-dumb-aday prescription. I used 3 yesterday.
How early did you start and how late did you go?
Good luck at the pharmacy getting that prescription filled.
When I asked the pharmacist for patience they told me it was on back order.
I try to learn from my not so wise moves.
I have taken chances that I knew could cost me a blade.
Gerald
Not sure if I learned anything reading this page. :D
Maybe someone should start a Whatcha' dumbin' thread.
Alan
Luckily for me, I haven't done anything dumb since I started this thread a week ago. Do you believe me?
Not sure if I have done anything dumb today cause my wife is working till 9 pm. she will let me know when she gets home.lol. As well, the day is still young.
FireFighter,
No, not really, then again, maybe you just haven't done anything since you started this thread ;D, that would change my opinion to plausible :D
Doc,
agreed, I always say the day is still young enough for a lot to go wrong :-\
OK, my turn I guess. Nice day today and I have cabin fever. I haven't cut in a couple of months now and there is this 65' snag I have to look at each time I leave my driveway. It's been there 15 years. A rotten EWP locked into a leaning 75' maple. It's a 'little' tricky and last March I did a much more dangerous complex 4 way tie-up right next to it (all hurricane Irene damage).
Anyway, before diving in, I wanted to get my sea legs back and had all these pines and one oak that had been down nearly as long. They needed to be bucked into something drag able, and some were a little hung up at head height. Lots of little forces involved with the twists and crotch jams. Well, you guessed it, I mis-judged the loading on one and got the saw pinched good in the oak. I didn't have another saw handy and didn't want to walk back, tried the wedge thing (as you can see in the photo), but wound up cutting it out with an ax. NO, I did not hit the bar or the chain with the ax. It was like surgery (OK Doc, maybe not quite surgery, but it worked fine, allow me the metaphor). I got it out. Still feel stupid though. The photographic evidence provided shows the saw just prior to removal after I had freed it up.
I did get the big snag down, but it took most of the day with trying to plan the way it shifted with each 4' chunk I took off the bottom. I did a LOT of wedge pounding, more than I have ever done on a single tree, let alone in a single day. Used every wedge I had in my pouch. My dumbest move of the day was around 3:30 when I realized I could not longer control either ax or saw above my shoulder height. I should have quit for the day, but I wanted that DanG tree on the ground and kept going. Now I feel pretty darn sore (I did get it down and bucked). Not using those muscles for several months sure has put a hurtin' on me. I could crawl into bed right now, but I am expected at the neighbors to shoot pool and be jovial in a little while. Time for more Advil.
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OG,
Well overall seems like a success story, just the scenic route was taken was all. At least it was Advil, had it been Tylenol, you'd have to have stopped every 4 hours for some more :D and that snag might not have been completed in a single day. See, not so dumb after all. 8)
glad to see it all come together in the end, and you are still in one piece to boot, a win / win in my books
Best,
That definitely sounded like a challenge, OG, but you persevered in the end. That's a good day. Now rest those arms.
OG, at least you didn't get your panties in a bunch when you got your bar in a pinch. sign of maturity. smiley_old_guy
Getting a bar pinched is part of the job. If you don't expect to have that happen from time to time, you just aren't realistic. I am actually surprised it didn't happen more than once today with all the odd cutting I was doing. As for the advil, never did take any until I got in the house at the end of the day. Too little, too late. I am about to take my third dose now at 2am. Snow coming in soon. I'd better get to bed so i can get up and plow at 5am. Probably no cutting tomorrow.
Well, did it again today. Didn't raise blade high enough to clear the cant. Drag back and bang. No damage to blade this time though.
I was sawing and got about 5" in and realized I was about 2" to deep and banged the housing around the band wheels on a cut off branch. Tried to back out and the whole band popped off. Wasn't even thinking when I did it.
What is the best way to get a band out?
Quote from: offrink on March 11, 2019, 06:44:11 PM. . . . What is the best way to get a band out?
In one piece or five?
I keep a couple of felling wedges and a small ax or hammer and if I have to back the band out I drive the wedge in to give me more clearance. Unfortunately it is usually easier to free a band 5' into the cut than one that is stuck 5" in. If I can't get it out with the wedges you may have to cut off the board/flitch/slab you were cutting with a chainsaw or handsaw. This is often a hard spot to reach due to the head position in these circumstances.
Yes, tap wedge(s) in to raise the board and then use a cutoff section of a broken blade to clear the sawdust.
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Not pretty but it does the job. ;D
If you have to take a blade out in pieces, or if it is damaged beyond repair, you can break it into pieces without tools by folding a section tight, and it will break.
Quote from: Magicman on March 11, 2019, 07:24:27 PM
Not pretty but it does the job. ;D
nice idea MM for a tool, cannot believe you do not have nice maple handles riveted to that blade. nice floor, is that "grit grout!)lol
Lynn,
I've seen you post the broken band to remove sawdust before but why? I have not noticed the sawdust creating a problem to pull the blade back. Then again, I have not tried removing the sawdust first. Do you find it binds or prevents the movement of the band? You must or you would not be removing the sawdust. ???
Quote from: doc henderson on March 11, 2019, 07:32:07 PMcannot believe you do not have nice maple handles riveted to that blade
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The Plasti-Dip handle works just fine Doc.
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It's the same thing that I use on the ends of all of my Logrite tools to repair/prevent damage to the rubber grip.
Yes WV, I have had many occasions where I was deep into the cut and wedges alone would not raise the board/cant enough to allow me to back out without removing the sawdust. I shouldn't say that I couldn't, but that removing the sawdust certainly made it easier.
brilliant! I thought it was electrical tape in the other pic. I was just kidden ya. all your repairs are first class, lots of good ideas.
I like the handheld piece of blade. I could make one from the blade I messed up, but then my son would probably get ahold of it and use it as a sword.
Some day in the future when lasers are being used to cut boards from standing trees an archaeologist will find that tool and hang it in a museum with some story about how we used those to saw lumber with!! :D
What happens to our mind in the cold. The other day at 17* and gusty at times I decided to go cut some ewp. I usually take two saws cause if I have only one I'll get it pinched up! Well got the big saw pinched bucking off the top. Grabbed my smaller limbing saw, it needed gas n oil and I was getting cold. Filled it with gas and was putting in the bar n chain oil. Wait! You gotta be kidding me! I've been running chain saw for 58 years and pulled a first. Put gas in oiler n oil in the gas tank! I didn't try starting it thinking the oil was too cold to fire up! I drained it into a bucket I had on the tractor, refilled and went back to work. Still scratching my head on that one!!
I'm only half that bad. I caught it when I put the oil in the gas. I wouldn't have told, except you already did. Banjo
I haven't told anybody around here! 🤫
A few weeks ago I filled my gas tank with oil but noticed my mistake before I put the cap on. Later I forgot to put the oil cap on and noticed it when.......
The lids on my ms460 are good at that, if you get in a hurry and dont check it. Banjo
Quote from: Magicman on March 11, 2019, 10:33:12 PM
A few weeks ago I filled my gas tank with oil but noticed my mistake before I put the cap on. Later I forgot to put the oil cap on and noticed it when.......
You know all you guys think what you did was REALLY dumb, I know I would. BUT, I can tell you that I have always been so concerned about making this same error that I Never pour gas in the hole until I look down it and make sure that this is 'the hole that the gas goes in'. I don't know why, but I NEVER trust myself, and I have never (yet) made that mistake, and BOY do I know how the cold can make a sane solid man into and idiot for just a moment or two. I expect my turn will come someday too, I just haven't lived long enough to make that mistake...yet.
I get the feeling this thread may need a "did something dumb today 219, 2020, 2021, etc." because if you haven't done something dumb, you ain't doing much.
There's thems that screw up and thems that :-X
Read this thread again and still haven't learned anything. :)
You shoulda learned smiley_book2_page what you shouldna did. smiley_dizzy
I did, but it doesn't help me. :)
Me either. Just bumble along and (try to) get up when I fall. ::)
Just reading about something usually don't help. You have to experience it. So after the saw cap came off, twice I now double check to make sue it's not going to oil my leg for me.. Sometime It takes a couple lessons. If they are good enough lessons ,once is usually enough, like when I got my head busted for not wearing a hard hat when falling a tree. I have never cut one since without one on. Banjo
End of the day went to refill the chainsaw with fuel. Opened the cap and then found I was out of fuel mix. Filled the gallon container with fresh gas and then proceeded to pour the small container of mix into the saw rather than the gallon of gas. Let the saw drain overnight but still ran rough for next tank.
Quote from: crowhill on March 11, 2019, 10:05:35 PM
. . . What happens to our mind in the cold. . .
At - 35*F, you could imagine the knuckle headed moves I've made.
I try not to make the same boneheaded maneuvers more than six times in a row.
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That canoe may not float after that.
New mill owner here and I have read on here many times that people hit the log rest.
I was like yea I can see it happening but it shouldn't be easy to do. I mean you look at the log before each cut.... turns out I was WAY WRONG. I hit the log rests on my third log. Lol what a rookie mistake.
I'm sure it's all depending on everything but can a band that hit the metal be resharpened ? Does it take the set out of the band?
... very first day...at least I got it outta the way early
Quote from: OHBucknut on March 12, 2019, 09:06:11 PMI mean you look at the log before each cut.... turns out I was WAY WRONG. I hit the log rests on my third log.
Hahahahahahaha! :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
I am not laughing at you, I am laughing with you. We all say "Nah, won't happen to me!" and yet, yeah, it does. Many reasons why: watching something else, too cold out and lost concentration, distracted by the tailgunner, pretty girl watching, you name it. There are as many reasons as there are log dogs.
Welcome to the club, your member number is 2,189, 265.
OHBucknut, I hit a log support the first time I ran the mill. I cut halfway then it before I realized. Luckily it was just at the very end. Just kissing the thing probably ok. Cutting halfway thru, probably fatal to the blade.
I just read your info on your profile page. Be careful milking Lumber. You can get splinters.
Quote from: OHBucknut on March 12, 2019, 09:06:11 PMat least I got it outta the way early
Trust me you didn't - it keeps coming back when you least expect it!! There are two types of sawyers, those who try to saw off a piece of their mill, and those who LIE about not doing so...;D
Firefighter
Thanks for the heads up on the splinters. I since quit milking and started milling. Lol
Two dumb things today. One was totally not my fault. Somebody ran into the back of my truck while I was stopped behind someone turning left. Luckily the damage is minor, but still an inconvenience.
The second could have prevented by me. I was picking up some big black oak logs that someone was giving me. He was loading the first onto my trailer with a skidder with forks. Put the log on trsiler and it rolled right across and off other side. It put a good dent in my trailer fender on the way down. I should have thought to lay something down to prevent it from rolling. On the plus side, I got some great logs. I think I will q saw at least a few of them.
My trailer fenders looks like pianos fell on them. Multiple pianos :).
I have performed this act twice. The most embarrassing thing it was the same customer about two years apart. While cutting the first slab off; find my first cut hight, engage blade, turn on debarker, engage debarker with the wood as I start through the cut. As I am coming out the other end, move debarker out, switch off the debarker, switch of the auto clutch as soon as the blade clears the log. I got myself out of sync and shut off the auto clutch instead of the debarker. The saw makes an interesting noise when the blade stops before it clears wood.
mh
Been there a few times too
I once thought I could put a log on the deck without the log stops up. The log had a swoop that was up and it rolled off the back of the mill. bent my trough and broke a few parts of the energy chain. also deformed my sprinkler pump house lid. This is starting to feel like a group therapy meeting, and I finally felt comfortable sharing. Hi, my name is Bryan! :)
We're here to help and let you know you're not alone, Bryan. Does anybody else want to share with the group?
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 23, 2019, 03:06:10 PM
Does anybody else want to share with the group?
Since you asked. I put a firewood chunk into the back window of my pickup
Hello Brian! does that warm or cool the inside of your cab? ::) it is firewood after all. :laugh:
I do some thing dumb most days, but I don't want to talk about it! ::)
Quote from: brianJ on March 23, 2019, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 23, 2019, 03:06:10 PM
Does anybody else want to share with the group?
Since you asked. I put a firewood chunk into the back window of my pickup
Dang it.
Well I did not do this
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. But it woke me up at 0600. I reckon he felt pretty dumb.
I was expecting to see a Swift truck. :-X :D
Ha Ha Ha!!! Truer words were never spoken!!!
That's probably pretty alarming to wake up to your truck getting hit.
It was a good loud bang when his trailer tires hit his steering tire.
I had a dry box in a JD Irving parking lot one time that got whacked by a JD Irving driver. My trailer was sitting there waiting to get loaded with wood shavings - drop and hook - no truck attached. Irving tried to claim their driver was not at fault and my trailer was....I was like "whaaattt??"
Obviously, your trailer jumped in front of that truck.
This is not forestry related, but I will pass it on anyway. I took a pack of bagels out of the freezer, not having any in the fridge. I put one in the microwave to thaw it out, then I put it in the toaster. Bad idea...don't ever do it. Made is almost to hard to eat. I say almost, because Debbie was not here and I didn't want to make anything else. Hard to believe that as soft as that thing was coming out of the microwave it could turn into a little rock in the toaster. Banjo
I was parked across from the oops. Had a good view. Yes I am thankful it was not my trailer or truck.
So yesterday I went to tighten the straps. Made it 3/4 around the trailer then this happened. Snapped the end off the snipe bar. I landed on my left hip and pinched a couple of fingers. Pretty stiff last night and this morning, but feel better tonight.
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Wow, :o never seen one break like that. Seen cheater pipes fly though . Got 30 stiches in my forehead from one when snap binder kicked back in Whg. Pitt. steel mill I was loading at . Went to all ratchet binders was gun shy after that. Glad you're healing up ok.
Quote from: rjwoelk on March 23, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Well I did not do this
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. But it woke me up at 0600. I reckon he felt pretty dumb.
Can not recall how many times I've seen this. Luckily, never happened to my truck, yet...(knocks on wood twice).
So today was my day to do something dumb.
Well I knew it was going to happen, just didn't know when!
While I was cleaning up around my mill today I found a small cedar log. So I thought I could get a few 6" x 24" boards out of it to make something one day. So I fired up the mill and sawed a 6" x 24" cant and began sawing boards. On the third or fourth board I fed the saw head a little too far past the cant and it found the edge of the bolt holding the roller assembly onto the log side support. :-[
Glad that is over with, kind of like the first dint or ding in a new truck...
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Nothing like the sound of a band hitting metal to throw all the senses into hay wire mode. Cut motor?,, Stop band?? pull back?? yikes!!! Then what damage did I do to the baby!!! Oh Cr#$ how did I do that? My favorite is starting the band with the tensioner down (off).
I did something last week that I'm still hurting about .The back door at home here has an 8' deck and Rhonda likes to watch the birds in the feeder we put out there and the black squirrels which are new here and kinda taking over were in the feeder , I bolted out the door to chase them away and that's the last thing I remember, till I woke up 1/2 hr later on the floor tried to get up couldn't went back down started vomiting was super dizzy finally crawled to my phone called 911 they showed up helped get me off the floor and to the hospital for the night released me with a heart monitor for couple days which is off now and I'm fine except for headaches which I am not acustomed to. NOW when I look outside and see black squirrels in the feeder i look elsewhere.
Last Friday we were sitting in the house having coffee when my friend Tim jumped up and said look there goes a red fox with a black squirrel in his mouth,now that was nice to see.
It took 13 years and on my new AC 36 band mill, I grazed the back stop didn't have it all the way down. On a last 1" cut off Deck.
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I don't know why they make log supports so long. Every sawyer seems to have trouble with their length at one time or another. I have formally declared war on mine and am working on trimming them to a proper length - one stop and blade at a time.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
I'm happy to see some folks have been doing some dumb things without me. Well, today I did it again.....sort of. I was cutting a large walnut that maxed out my saw. I had to keep trimming the side as I went down for the roller guide to clear. I ran out of clearance and couldn't go any further. I needed to back the saw up to cut with the chainsaw for clearance. I even wedged the beginning of the cut about 3/4", but it didn't help. When I went to back the saw up off came the band. Man what a racket. Dinged one tooth on the blade, so it will go off for sharpening. New blade and awaY we went to the finish line. Got some beautiful 23" slabs at least.
When backing the sawhead up, it's a good idea to disengage the blade, ESPECIALLY if the blade is still in the cut! :P
well I guess I should tell on myself and compliment my son William. He just graduated Buhler High School and often if he is helping dad, he would rather be with some friends or on line with them. We went out to get the Walnut tree. things went well. saw poison ivy everywhere. He transported logs to the trailer that sat on the road but had to travel a long narrow drive. now he did nock over a 10 foot ERC tree not paying attention, but no big harm and a good learning experience. As we were loading up on the trailer including the skid steer, he noticed that my gooseneck ball had came up out of the receiver and was just setting on the bed of the truck, under the full tongue weight of the trailer. It had not worked well for many years after I got the truck and the pin would snap shut even just climbing up on the bumper. so it had been a 2 man job to flip the ball with me holding the linkage and my son turning the ball. I told my diesel mechanic to check it out, and the caul was dirty and needed lubed. now it works great, meaning the pin was still locked in the out position. took about 30 minutes of jacking up the front of the trailer and trying to put it back in. It had deformed the opening so the only way was to use the weight of the trailer and move forward and back with the truck. no one harmed. could have done lots or damage to my bed and tailgate had I drove forward. even worse if had somehow got onto the road. I am proud that his brain was engaged enough to notice! It was also good to solve a problem to get us back to town, with him.
ps glad to see no one else has done anything dumb since a month ago! :D :D :D
Doc,
I guess me dropping the head off my mill when I changed the lower cam follower 2 weeks ago does not count, huh?
http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=106133.0 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=106133.0)
Oh yes it does ;D.
as long as no one gets hurt in the making of these movies. live and learn, learn and live! 8)
;)Right Doc, I haven't done anything done since April 16. ;)
OK, guess it's my turn in the chute: SO I am milling this oddball crotch today and having a heck of a time fitting it in. I shimmed it all over and one of the blade guides got hung up on a shim and couldn't pass it by, so I grabbed a dead blow hammer just to tap the shim to get it to snap over the blade guide. Guess I gt a little too close and the blade grabbed it, sucked it in and jammed up solid.
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I missed the steel insert in the head, but let most of the shot out of it. No big deal. I had just reclaimed this mallet from a dumpster at work. No big investment, just feeling pretty dumb. It was hot, I was tired and my brain just farted.
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you should see the guys who's brains try to hold it in, good thing your brain farted. I think there a still a few good years left in that safety orange dead blow. refill it with shot and wrap in camo duct tape. one of your neighbors will prob. offer you 10 bucks for it. some times saving a few minutes turns into costing a few hours. not sure when I can get up to see your place, but keep the coffee on just in case! best regards.
Skip,
I missed your thread about the incident up at Wheeling Pitt. I worked up there for 2 years around 2000 staying in an apartment in Wierton overlooking the Welcome to PA sign then driving to Steubenville and down to Mingo Jct. We replaced their maintenance management system I was the implementer setting things up and teaching the guys to use the product. They were a pretty good bunch of guys to work with as a client.
Dumb stuff? Not milling, but I screwed up laying out piles in a bridge abutment a few weeks ago. I have no idea what happened. Blew the computations, and laid it out. Everyone screws stuff up. If you aren't screwing up you aren't trying, but I try to leave it to the tricky stuff. There was no reason for messing up the piles. Still paying it off a bit at a time; $1.1k in extra concrete to cover it up :^S
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on May 26, 2019, 04:33:37 PM
OK, guess it's my turn in the chute: SO I am milling this oddball crotch today and having a heck of a time fitting it in. I shimmed it all over and one of the guide guides got hung up on a shim and couldn't pass it by, so I grabbed a dead blow hammer just to tap the shim to get it to snap over the blade guide. Guess I gt a little too close and the bad grabbed it, sucked it in and jammed up solid.
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I missed the steel insert in the head, but let most of the shot out of it. No big deal. I had just reclaimed this mallet for a dumpster at work. No big investment, just feeling pretty dumb. It was hot, I was tired and my brain just farted.
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Oh my! Glad that wasn't your hand. Be careful.
Did something dumb this afternoon. Sitting in the ER now. Been here a couple of hours. It is better to joint wood rather than your finger. It is not a pretty sight :).
Sorry to hear that Danny. Sure hope all turns out ok.
Brent
Quote from: WDH on May 26, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
Did something dumb this afternoon. Sitting in the ER now. Been here a couple of hours. It is better to joint wood rather than your finger. It is not a pretty sight :).
AH man! That sucks. :( I hope everything grows back.
Well Danny, that explains why you haven't responded to my messages I sent you about a kiln. Lol. So far, I only have jointed wood, but I have biscuit joinered my finger. That's not pretty either.
Quote from: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 04:41:42 PMrefill it with shot and wrap in camo duct tape. one of your neighbors will prob. offer you 10 bucks for it. some times saving a few minutes turns into costing a few hours. not sure when I can get up to see your place, but keep the coffee on just in case! best regards.
I don't think it was worth 10 bucks when it was new and this one had one face pretty much worn off. I just grabbed it because it was perfect for tapping the log clamps in and out instead of my fist. Even without the shot it does that just fine. The camo tape idea is something I should think about that. I could outfit an entire shop with the stuff I find in dumpsters.
I am always prepared to make fresh coffee when company shows up. I also have an unopened bottle of Johnny Walker Black in there for the same reason.
Quote from: WDH on May 26, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
Did something dumb this afternoon. Sitting in the ER now. Been here a couple of hours. It is better to joint wood rather than your finger. It is not a pretty sight :).
you know, fingers need joints too! what no pics? :D hope it turns out well. will hurt long enough to make you more careful in the future... for a while! biscuit or regular jointer. in all seriousness, good luck.
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) i would love to come visit, it is a way, so I promise not to show up unannounced!
WV,
I'm pretty sure I lived at the same apartment for a while - directly across from the Weirton Hospital? I work in Weirton but live in PA now. I travel near your current location quite often for meetings too.
12" jointer with spiral cutterhead. Unfortunately those carbide inserts cut more than wood. Still in ER.
WDH - sorry to hear about your planed finger my friend. I hope the docs were able to make repairs. Right hand or left? yikes_smiley
WDH,good luck to ya. Hope all will be well.
Happened at Beech Bottom loading roof decking, real spingy, . All that and most of Weirton steel all gone now .
Danny, that is a lot of knives coming at you. Get feeling better. When I was making knife scabbards and getting home at 1 am, I would try to do a little project before bed. I ran my thumb right into the band saw blade. talk about a composite, walnut maple blood and tissue healed up nice but did not win any awards.
I hope you're all patched up and on the mend this morning, Danny.
Danny,
Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Richard
@WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) how did you make out at the ER? you gonna heal up OK? Hoping for the best, that's a nasty way to get hurt.
The best to your recovery. Rob
Danny,
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I hope it wasn't your boiled peanut shucking and hushpuppy frying finger. My old roommate got his finger shot off in Viet Nam (M-79 too close to arm) and they put it back but stiff so said it could be straight or curved and he had it curved to fit a beer can.
Skip,
Beech botom was where they did the painting. Across the river at Yorkville they did the galvanizing and made 5 ridge tin and such. I understand they'd paint and re-coil the steel at BB. I never understood why that did not destroy the paint but I guess not.
CC,
Sounds pretty close if not the same. Holler at me if you are going to be down here very long.
I was in the ER for over 6 hours from 6:00 p.m. to after midnight. It seems that I was not the only one that had issues :). I would post a pic, but it is not for the faint of heart, and I know that many of you have delicate constitutions. I am recovering at home (smoking ribs, at least they are not mine ::)). Now to the Orthopedic Doctor after the Holiday. This kind of thing always happens to me on a Holiday weekend.
Well, you're feeling well enough to smoke meat. That's good. I guess keep your hand elevated and maybe have a beverage to numb the senses.
I am managing to muddle through it. Smoking meat is like air drying lumber. Once you are set, you just sit back and watch, and a beverage helps with the watching.
On my left hand, I am using a few different fingers to type, so a lot of back-spacing and correcting :) :). I don't think that I am permanently maimed, just a little bit dis-figured on one digit if everything heals.
Sitting and watching with a beverage is conducive to reflection on being DUMB, though. It is not free.
glad you are home and still will have a digit to type with. It does slow a guy down. which finger, and what happened? kick back on the board? My mentor Kenny Skeels lost his L pinky on a table saw, he tried to keep it and took months and never healed. they took it off and the stub always caught on his jeans pocket. He recently lost another, he is in his 80s and his wife wont let him play with big boy tools anymore. could be worse.
Quote from: WDH on May 27, 2019, 04:22:49 PMI would post a pic, but it is not for the faint of heart, and I know that many of you have delicate constitutions.
Are we on the same Forum? :)
Seriously, that is not fun and you are lucky that blade did not get a good hold and suck more of you in. Sounds like your philosophy and sense of humor and place are intact. That's a big deal. Rest up, take time and heal. Try not to beat yourself up every time you look at it for the next 6 months.
I have driven a LOT of guys to the hospital after incidents similar to yours and universally they all say the EXACT same thing: "Boy, that was stupid". And, just to be fair, I have uttered those very same words myself as I sat in the E/D. You are not alone.
At least folks won't have to start calling you 'Lefty'. (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Heal well man.
The left pinkie. It is a little bit shorter now. Never knew that it was so important. This big honking bandage gets in the way of everything.
Danny,
Ouch, that struck a chord.
Don't fret, hope it heals up without too much throbbing.
Danny,
Hate to hear when anyone has an accident that puts them at the ER. I kept thinking maybe it's not too serious since they're making him wait half the night. Worried this morning when we hadn't heard from you for a while. Glad to see your back on the forum. Heal fast!!!!!
it is interesting. just got home from a 7 to 7 shift. we see 25,000 pt. a year so 68 average per day, on holidays it goes up. We saw 55 pt. from 7am until 5:30 pm today. prev. 24 hours they saw 90. so number go up, but same staff usually. Danny I am glad you are ok. hope now that the finger is shorter it will stay out of the way. :) best regards. Doc.
Hope it heals up soon, Danny! I severed the last digit of my right hand pinkie finger about 10 years ago while splitting some big wood. Rolling a half of a big oak round off the splitter deck and caught it between that piece and a section of the trunk. Took it off like a pair of scissors. OUCH X3!! Awesome surgeon sewed it back on. Took a bunch of antibiotics for a few weeks and it's still there, even though I have generally no feeling in it.
I hope you heal up quickly, Danny.
My Dad injured the pinkie and ring finger of his left hand when he slipped and his fingers went into the cutter head of a 6" Craftsman jointer. The guard had been removed. He wound up losing the first two joints on both fingers...
Hope you heal up quick and without complications...
Herb
My high school shop teacher had his safety talk about the jointer every year which involved showing us picture of his uncle's hand and all his fingers were the same length. Sure taught me to edge joint with my fingers curled up rather than sticking straight down.
Hope you heal up well! When I nicked my thumb on the table saw it took about 3 years to get full feeling back, still hurts more when I hit that thumb on stuff.
Mr. Hamsley Sir:
When jointing wood it is not necessary to sign your work in BLOOD.
When you get the bill for your little episode you will then realize the high cost of education.
Education, in this case, is why it is best to allow clearance between flesh and bones and rotating high speed steel.
Hope you get well real soon.
Gerald
Here I am sitting at the computer and my education is throbbing :). It won't let me forget, not for a while anyway.
I can just imagine.
Quote from: WDH on May 28, 2019, 08:34:20 PM
Here I am sitting at the computer and my education is throbbing :). It won't let me forget, not for a while anyway.
At least you only got a masters, and not a Phd. :P :D
You are right. At least it is only about half the finger tip from the last little knuckle to the finger tip lengthwise, not crosswise. If you drew a line from the last little knuckle straight to the tip centering the line in the middle of the nail, one side of the line is gone. The ER Doc called it an avulsion versus a cut since it is more of a ragged tear.
I hates to saw "avulsions". :-X
I am averse to avulsions.
I'm right there with you, got a tooth pulled last Fri. an it's not doing to good :(.
Yes, many woodworking injuries are avulsions. A word I learned long ago in EMT school. My biscuit cutter injury was definitely an avulsion. The sutures to fix it were kind of a star shape to pull everything back together.
It must be a virtuosic thang. ::)
Danny sorry to hear of the jointer bite! did your hand slip of was the pinky just wondering too close to the table?
I did a dumb thing about 2 weeks ago. I was preparing to sand some oak scraps to test some stains. With the belt sander running and I wondered if the grit was ok for the task. My left pointer finger moved before the brain engaged to tell my right pointer to release the trigger. The result was the loss of the entire finger nail on the left pointer! Fortunately the mental bashing of the dumb move and embarrassment of having to tell others what happened was much worse than the pain!
I currently have a 25 lb lifting restriction because of a cervical fusion and wearing a hard surgical boot because of foot surgery. When I came upstairs (shop in basement) with blood running down the finger my wife asked what I did now!?! She went on to say that I was grounded. She is getting tired of nursing me!
What did ya have on there 24 grit?
Most tool injuries including knives and screwdrivers, saws and such are to the non dominant hand since we firmly hold them with our dominant hand. accidental as well as non accidental trauma
Doc, here is a plywood injury. It happened to me last summer. It also got my head, back and legs. >:(
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be careful, we are not as young as we used to be.
adds new meaning to the work Laminectomy, (get it laminate/plywood!) sorry for the med humor. I only did not like your comment cause I did not want you to think that I liked your injury. :)
Sam,
The stupid thing was that I was wearing a glove. That is a no-no. The cutterhead caught the glove and pulled my hand down into it. It I had not been wearing the glove, it would not have happened.
That's a good point about the gloves. Sometimes I wear gloves when running the jointer because of the super sharp corners. Time to rethink that. Maybe cut the fingertips off the gloves.
Good to know you're on the mend with minimal damage.
Oh man! Proof that gloves are a bad idea when woodworking.
Well, he's got one glove with no fingertip.
my dad was a truck driver, he always had a pair of leather gloves on, or in his L hand, or back pocket. I swear he would go from on to off 5 times a minute but he did it without even thinking about it. They can be a limb saver, but nothing loose around moving equipment. Insurance is cheapest for pilots between 100 hours and 500 hours. too little experience, or too much confidence are neither a good thing. We are all one spit second away from weeks of pain and poss. disability. God Speed Danny.
Dang Danny,
Can't leave you alone for 5 minutes.
Hope you heal pretty quick.
Does this mean you'll be using a Capo on your Bass?
Will you be tuning a half step down?
Maybe only 3 strings on your Bass now?
Seriously, I hate this happened. Be careful.....I've come close too.
Danny - Hope you are feeling better soon, just caught up on this thread, guess that explains why you never texted me back the other day. I was reading this and hoping you didn't say that you were suddenly distracted by a text when this happened. :-X
If it makes you feel any better I did manage to shoot myself in the hand with a framing nailer once, while up on an extension ladder to just make the whole experience that much more interesting.
Quote from: WDH on May 29, 2019, 08:25:17 PM
Sam,
The stupid thing was that I was wearing a glove. That is a no-no. The cutterhead caught the glove and pulled my hand down into it. It I had not been wearing the glove, it would not have happened.
Thanks for sharing what caused it. I'm hoping to hold onto 10 full fingers as long as possible and it's good to (hopefully) learn from other's mishaps. Heal well.
Alan
Heal fast, my friend. When I cut myself I use super glue, works great. ;)
Lotsa pain been listed on this post and it made me MUCH more cautious in my shop last night!!
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Also got me below the thumb, but it was just a cut. :) :)
Real lucky it didn't drag your whole hand in there. :o
Every time I see or read about something like this makes me remember I should use push sticks but I rarely do. I suspect I'll pay for the education at some point too.
Oh no, now even you have an extra right hand glove: Rights (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=103630.msg1610270#msg1610270) It's either a conspiracy or proves that the rights are slowly winning and the lefts are loosing.
Firefighter, It was only about 100 grit or so but it sure acted like it was sticky!
Danny, Thanks for sharing how this happened. As Alan stated it is good to learn from others experiences and learn from them on how to change our practices or at least know proper technics. Does not mean we will put into practice what we learned! ::) Thus we post here. :o
Something fascinating about a spinning object. We had a blue healer that would run up and bite turning wheels on a lawn mower, he just could not help himself. His name was scout, from to kill a mocking bird
Wow, hope you heal up. Those gloves will get you. If you need a vacation, take a drive up to New Market and I'll feed you some steak and we can take a one handed cane pole down to the pond.
Glad you are on the mend
Danny,
I hope you heal up soon and completely and that this does not mean you get a 10% discount on your next manicure. ???
I lost a fingernail on my right little finger this week. Came off from mashing it on the side of my FEL loading about a 3' maple log/section a month or so back. Turned black and finally I looked down and it had just peeled back.
Yes when you get black under the nail, that is blood. and it will hydraulically separate the nail. nail material is basically like hair, and feels no pain and can be melted. so if there is a thick enough layer of blood, you can drill with a bit or needle, or heat something like a paper clip, the key is to stop when the blood spurts so as to not damage the very sensitive tissue below. this will relieve the pressure and maybe save the nail.
Danny, I wonder if the local salon could glue you on a fake nail in the future. choice of color is up to you ;) :D :D :D
My mentor Kenny Skeels had a lot of fun with his. with a short stub he could really fake pickin his nose, and make you pull back a little if you were shaking his hand for the first time. (he would wiggle his pinky stub!)
Ditto what Doc said, but let me add a little caution. If the digit is throbbing with pain, when you release the pressure it can be 'energetic' and also cause your ears to ring and vision blur for a second as the nerves beneath adjust to the pressure change. Shortly after, you should feel a WHOLE lot better. I have done this a time or two. Usually there is little issue, but those big ones, oh boy!
Well @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) almost karma. I have a little Bosch palm router. I always have a 1/8 " round-over bit for softening the edges of almost everything I make. I make oriole feeders to put the cups of grape jelly in, and I use a hole saw to make the two holes and use a router to make a grove for the top of the cup to seat in. so left in the same bit, but adjusted the bit lower to also make a groove. I use this setup so often, I can start and use it with one hand. turned it on and assumed my usual grip, and felt a sudden intense burning feeling to my R little pinky. It hurt bad enough that I had to look to investigate the damage. sure enough 1/2 my finger was still attached and the other half was ... dut, dut, dah!!! still attached also. got lucky and thought of danny almost immediately. It was red from contacting the collet since the opening had now moved to where I always rest my finger. great respect for things turning at 20,000 rpms. will add pic later.
putting finish on the wedding gift, the red mark is gone. got off easy compared to @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370)
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the top is painted orange, and is a stove burner cover and the cups also are from the WM kitchen isles
You are living right, Doc.
Close call on the router, glad it was your day to avoid an injury! Very nice feeder with the engraving makes a great gift.
Great job.
Yep, must be living right.
Karma will always let you know she's watching.
Danny, Danny Danny. There are better ways to trim your nails.
Glad it wasn't any worse and enough beverages can numb the feeling of pain or make you not care.
I did something dumb yesterday, I didn't fire up the LT40 and saw any logs.
Monday's are Monday's! I grabbed a couple of my Dad's axes when he passed in 2004, one of which looks as if it drove a number of fence posts over the years. The eye looks like it's started to bulge the slightest amount and the handle was in pretty sad shape. Decided time to do something with it so thought I'd see if it would sharpen up and it did with some time n elbow grease. Nice n sharp! Been sitting for a few weeks, recently bought a new handle, grabbed the axe head, looking it over to see how best to get the old wood out of the eye and it slipped in n through my hand, bent over to pick it up and saw blood dripping. Never felt it but it sliced my left pinky in good shape! Put some super glue on my finger n wrapped some black electricians tape around it. Can't wait to get that old heavy head hung to see how it tackles limbing, fingers doing fine..
Super glue is the best. Just be sure to clean the cut good first.
Sometimes I use a plastic scrubber with peroxide then glue.
Oh that hot feeling where you know something is not right, but how bad you're not sure. I was using an angle grinder with a thin cut off wheel to cut steel. I was not using the guard or the little screw in handle. It felt like my glove got really hot. There was a clean cut thru the glove and a nice cut in my finger. Put a bandaid on and went back to work.....and did it again. I put the handle on after that.
When I got my first planer I, for some unknown reason, very lightly ran my finger down the length of one of the blades. But certainly not pressing hard enough to get cut. About halfway down the blade I started to wonder why the blade was burning my finger. It certainly couldn't be hot. Pulled my finger away and found a nice deep cut. Guess those blades are sharp.
Alan
So I needed 4 bolts to replace the 4 that are used to adjust the head position on my B-20. They keep coming loose and I believe the best way to keep them tight is to start with new bolts. So I drove 15 minutes to the local auto parts store, didn't have them. Drove another 10 minutes to the heavy equipment dealership, nope but would be happy to order them. No thank you. So on another 15 minutes to a Manufacture Supply store. YES! It's Friday afternoon, hot and I sure would like to get this project started. Get the 4 bolts, 8 flat washers, 8 lock washers and the 12 nuts needed, go to check out counter, pay and head home. Grandson is with me and since we skipped lunch to run this errand we stop for a bite to eat, another half hour out of my way. Finally get home, couple chores to do before working on the mill. Get the tools out and set up to work. Wouldn't you know coarse thread bolts n fine thread nuts. The excitement of finding the bolts over powered the common sense to double check. That was dumb, now a second trip to make it right😟
@crowhill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14684) , i bet if you get them to tighten down, they will not loosen up any time soon. :D
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@crowhill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14684) , i bet if you get them to tighten down, they will not loosen up any time soon. :D
For sure since I jumped them up to a grade 8!😂
If you tack weld the nut to the bolt that should end the loosening issues.
GAB
loctite, marring the thread a little, or "dimpled" lock nuts or nylox nuts, may also help. i also like to double nut some bolts to lock them if they have room and a recurring problem.
Good to see you guys are keeping this thread alive. My most recent very dumb thing did not actually happen to me, but one of my firefighters. We were working on a bus that we will use for training. He hit a pry bar with a sledge hammer. I noticed a tiny red spot develop on his arm. Within seconds blood was squirting out like a garden hose. A sliver of metal had broken off the bar and went in his forearm. I spent the next 7 hours at the ER with him. They brought in a plastic surgeon to try and get the metal out. Well, he couldn't find it, so my guy will live with a sliver of metal. PSA announcement......wear PPE everywhere. He was wearing safety glasses, but.....
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was it a pry bar or a haligan? A haligan should have taken that hit, but a pry bar is too hard and brittle. I have seen then shatter many times. Sorry for your Brother. I sense a tailboard talk coming on. ;D
I worked with a guy whose wife was taking care of fire wood as he was splitting the chunks with a maul and wedges that were very badly mushroomed on the top. A piece of that mushroom steel broke off as he hit the wedge and flew into leg just missing the femur artery, missed close enough she spent a couple days in the hospital, never did get that piece out.
We all knew better, as it was a pry bar. He didn't even hit it that hard.
I have a bunch of 3/4" foundation stakes in various lengths that I've picked up for free off CL. I got about a dozen that were badly mushroomed (must have been driving them in concrete!). I spent an hour grinding them clean. Probably should have just cut the top end off! Also had an old steel splitting wedge that too a lot of grinding to make it safe again.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on July 01, 2019, 07:42:38 PM
Good to see you guys are keeping this thread alive. My most recent very dumb thing did not actually happen to me, but one of my firefighters. We were working on a bus that we will use for training. He hit a pry bar with a sledge hammer. I noticed a tiny red spot develop on his arm. Within seconds blood was squirting out like a garden hose. A sliver of metal had broken off the bar and went in his forearm. I spent the next 7 hours at the ER with him. They brought in a plastic surgeon to try and get the metal out. Well, he couldn't find it, so my guy will live with a sliver of metal. PSA announcement......wear PPE everywhere. He was wearing safety glasses, but.....
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Bad news if he ever has to have an MRI.
Quote from: luap on July 01, 2019, 09:22:17 PMBad news if he ever has to have an MRI.
Naw, that will just pull it out! :o
That's what we both said at the ER. Just put him in mri and pull it out.
had a guy running a metal muncher press, and some of the die popped off and hit him in the lip. sewed up his lip and he when he came back to have stitches out, he asked, "what is the lump in my cheek?" did an x ray and there was the metal, it tracked through the soft tissue of his cheek, from his lip. spent an hour taking that out, then more stitches. he thought it was funny, but I learned to do the x ray in the first place.
That's bull, can't find it.
It's possible the bleeding actually flushed it back out of the wound?
If there was a chunk of metal left in there it would show as a definite spot on an X-ray.
Other option is that it's already moved to some other part of the body, but if you still alive, that's probably not the case?
I am pretty sure you can see the dot in the middle of the x-ray. There is a lot of sift tissue in there they will capture it eventually, assuming it doesn't go for a walk about first. Doc can say better, but I think if it develops an infection, it will be much easier to find and remove.
I understand why everyone thinks if they know it's there, they should be able to find it, but if you have ever worked down inside live tissue, it can be a confusing places with lots of colors and camouflage and hiding spots. Add to that the fluids, blood, etc. and it is like trying to hand dig rocks out of a hole that is flooding faster than you can dig. It really isn't as easy as one might think it should be. That fleck in this one looks really small.
looks like a white spec overlying the bone on the x ray. soft tissue foreign bodies have consumed a fair amount of my life. spent 4 hours on a sliver of wood to the butt, and 2 hours on a bb I could feel. you have to be a little careful what you are cutting through to get it. that is why we leave in bullets sometimes.
Ha, you know I still have (whatever is left of) a BB in my butt from when I got shot at age 16. It has given me less trouble these last 15 years though, so I think it's pretty much gone. Being shot where I was, it was hard to find a friend to dig it out (that's when you find out who your real friends are), so I left it. If they guy that shot me wasn't a coward and shot me from behind, I could probably have gotten it out myself. But I have never actually seen it, so.... ;D :D
the body will wall it off and or in the process, form a tract to the surface and spit it out. I will leave the "pain in the asthma" jokes to you @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Quote from: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 10:20:49 AM
I will leave the "pain in the asthma" jokes to you @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Thanks, butt I am not going there. ;D
That BB gave me a recurring boil on my butt for 20 years. Funny story from that: The guy that shot me faded off into memory and I had no contact with him. Years later when my wife and I married we were at our reception and I ran into the catering hall Chef, and guess who it was? So I thanked him for making up for shooting me with a fine dinner
and let it go at that. Still wish I could have shot back. ;D ;D
had a kid come in at 2 am. he was having a sleep over and had got shot in the arm accidentally while showing friends his bb gun. his dad was still sleeping as there were strict rules regarding the bb guns. so his mom snuck him in, but on x ray we found a second bb, so I a little gruff and interrogated him. I was able to "break" the pre teen and he admitted they were playing bb gun wars. He was far more concerned with what dad would have to say when he found out!
fudd-smiley smiley_crying
No BB gun wars in my past. I was shot by a sniper. I didn't find out who did it for about 2 years then somebody let it slip.
AH, to be young and dumb, and full of........stupidity.
got a peice of sledge hammer in my hand for about 10 years. went in the web between the thumb and first finger. lodged about an inch and half in. wife couldnt find it. couple more peices came off that sledge and I sawed the handle off so it couldnt be used again. Son got a bb in his stomach from his sister.
I stepped on a piece of glass in a local creek as a kid and a piece about the size of the end of a cooked grain of rice broke off deep in there and healed over as Doc described. Was in the center of my foot so when I stepped on a raised surface like a root or stone or such there I'd get a twinge. After 5-6 years I got tired of it and went to the doctor who dug deeply and it bled profusely then healed back the same. He could not see it on X-ray so said he did not know if he had gotten it. I finally started putting iodine on it and that killed the tough skin around it till it came to the surface and I opened it with a needle and removed it. Heck. it might have been on its way out anyway and the iodine might not have helped but I heard iodine would kill warts and such and figured the callused skin was about like a wart. Bottom line is it got gone and I don't miss it one bit.
When I was a kid, Ma would put a dab of Ergophene ointment over a splinter or other object buried in my hand or elsewhere and put a band-aid over it and in a day or so the splinter would be on or near the surface and easy to remove. You can't buy the stuff today, but there is another "drawing salve" available.
Ahh the good old days of BB gun wars!!! Good to see some kids still do it and it does not end up in an FBI raid complete with helicopters!! We adhered to the the "only one pump" rule growing up. ;D
I think were the old daisy where one pump was it. and yes, we are required to report to law enforcement and child protective services as a gun shot. my pt. prob would have liked to go to juvi as his dad had laid down the law in the past.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 03, 2019, 09:33:55 PMwe are required to report to law enforcement and child protective services as a gun shot
Wow - I guess I get that, but geesh, it was just part of being a dumb kid and growing up, along with eating lead paint, riding in the bed of a pickup holding onto a heifer, trying to make nitroglycerin in chemistry class...;D
no wonder kids do not know how to do anything! right? I know, it is the near death learning experiences that give us this spidey senses that keep us alive later in life!!!
Southside. You forgot pipe cannons loaded with ball bearings. Light fuse and run. Yup good old days. Here in canada can't get firecrackers. Sad day that law came in.
My buddy went back for a follow up with a different doctor. He did another X-ray, one that was real time. Turns out the sliver of metal was over an inch away from where the surgeon was looking for it. Decided to leave it there. I think the piece was only 5mm long.
things can migrate, I have worked for hours under flouro (real time x-ray) and can feel something, see it on x-ray, and still not find it to remove. Like having something in bathwater and you try to grab it and it keep floating away. FFOTS, that metal looked like 1/2 centimeter to me! :D :D :D.
You say tomato.....I say tomato.
During Paramedic rotation in ER 14 yr M GSW to left chest coming in buy squad. Everyone took a beep breath then medic on squad said it was a BB gun surgeon said oh so no big deal then medic report it was a sucking chest wound. turned out it was a high powered pellet rifle he was hit just below the collar bone went in at the 3rd intercostal and was laying on the diaphragm. He laying in waiting behind a knoll when his bubby shot him. he got a chest tube and a trip to Children's by Bird. Was very it only nicked his lung missed everything else.
We can never be too careful with our guns. Been hunting since I was 6 years old. Have a deer camp. Late one evening all coming together not far from camp, chatted, started walking single file toward camp, one gun discharged, whoa! It's dark, guns should be empty! Was told it just discharged!? Really? Once in camp, two of the group took the gun and tried to determine the "it just discharged theory", they are pretty good at gun repair and modification. Absolutely no reason for a misfire. A teenager made a mistake, he was asked to leave and to think about the rules of safely handling a gun and to come back the following week-end. Tough lesson but no room for error and stated he pulled the trigger checking the safety but while pointed toward the ground.
It's been a long time since I did something dumb, well maybe not that long. Yesterday I was standing on the tailgate of my F350. That thing is about 42" off the ground. I heard the phone ringing in the house so I tried to step down with my left leg. I'm not tall enough to do that, so when the left leg went down as far as it could the rest of me fell off. I landed on my rear and my back. I don't know how, but I was not really injured. My ankle was funky for an hour or so and my shoulder was sore last night, but that's it.
Ouch. I put a ladder on my tail gate so I can climb in and out. Sometimes it's in the way and I have to fold it out to use the gate. But for what I use the truck for it is great.
FFOS,
Glad you are not seriously injured than a few bruises and a little ego damage. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
I did something dumb today. I drove through canada on the way to the pigroast. That was seriously dumb. Took me 11 hours to get here.
I will never do that again. border crossing are BS!!!!
The stupid thing is that my tailgate has one of those pullout steps. I rarely use it. Maybe I should.
:D
That is one of the options I did not get that I wish I had.
Man, this topic sat dormant for a few weeks, just thought everyone was staying in doors out of the heat and not doing anything at all. It's daily that I feel I do something dumb, even if it's only me that feels that way.
Glad it was only a minor mishap you had there FFOS, had a sub on a project a while back that did something very similar, landed on his backside, but there was a good size rock where he landed and cracked his tailbone, took months to heal and he looked in a lot of pain.
Bummer you had such a hard time at the border @Crusarius (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059), that does suck. Can't speak to your side of the country, we live like right at the border, in fact could hit it with a rock (not recommended) from here. Albeit, we are seriously in the middle of nowhere, the border is only open from 9 to 5 daily, they actually roll up the sidewalks at 5 and we see no traffic at all the rest of the day. Own a store and have thousands of Canadian customers which hundreds frequent our facility daily to pick up goods ordered on line, and there is a fluid motion to and fro across this border, but as mentioned we are in nowhere land and that may be the big caveat, not being where any significant population is near, have a great time at the roast, wish I was able to attend, better planning next year might be in the cards.
I was crossing at niagara falls and ummm somewhere into michigan. Unfortunately there is water eeverywhere except those 2 bridges so it gets quite backed up.
I only went through canada cause I was after a change or scenerey from the states. Funny thing was it looked exactly the same if not worse. Much less country the way I went to much city.
Oh well. I made it and think I am going to bed. need to be fresh for tomorrow. I hear there is a pig that needs devouring :)
Quote from: Crusarius on August 02, 2019, 09:14:13 PM
I did something dumb today. I drove through canada on the way to the pigroast. That was seriously dumb. Took me 11 hours to get here.
I will never do that again. border crossing are BS!!!!
I tried to tell ya!
Todays company at the pr will make it worth the trip.
mh
9 5/8" -4 5/8" = 5 5/8".... :-[ at least it was elm....
That Nebraska math must be different than ours. ???
Quote from: Nebraska on August 03, 2019, 07:43:14 AM
9 5/8" -4 5/8" = 5 5/8".... :-[ at least it was elm....
Well can't laugh at ya, done similar only to realize too late.
Quote from: Nebraska on August 03, 2019, 07:43:14 AM
9 5/8" -4 5/8" = 5 5/8".... :-[ at least it was elm....
OH, I surely cannot laugh at you for that. I worked the night shift last night, sleep cycle is messed up, had a couple of 'cokes' when I got home, then got up and read your post before I had my first 3 cups of coffee. I sat here and looked at your math and thought "What? That looks right to me." took me a full minute to clear my head enough to realize what we both did. AT least it was elm. ;D
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Don't go look at trucks today!!
Quote from: samandothers on August 03, 2019, 01:01:12 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Don't go look at trucks today!!
Funny you should mention that, I was just on my way out. But not to worry, I have finished my 12 cup pot and had a few hours to wake up. I am as fresh as a wilted daisy now. Also, my banker/wife is 3,000 miles away and I barely have enough cash in my pocket for a tiny good faith deposit. I am not buying today (at least that is not my plan).
I made a nice 9ft 7inch x 5 inch x 12 ish inch can't that was supposed to be 5 5/8 thick to set aside to dry for a couple years to be part of a log wall on the front of a little she shed cabin by the pond. I finished the cut shut off the blade, idled it down, set off the flitch looked down looked at the correct dimensioned logs on the pile, shook my headrealizing what I had done....got the tractor moved out of the wondering now what are you going to do with THAT now...Then realized my lube was still on....
cut em all down to 5" and state that was the plan all along ;D
I know. I just wanted different scenery. hey guess what. That section of canada is ugly anyhow :) Would have been nicer staying in the US. That is what I will do on the way home tomorrow.
Beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder.
I have traveled across the border and took the 401W, then crossed over at Sault St Marie, MI just to avoid getting near Chicago!
To me, it was well worth the trip!
I guess I shouldn't have posted that late lastnight. it wasn't ugly per se but it wasn't any different than staying in the US. I do really think the NY plates on the truck bring out the worst drivers around me. When I ran AZ plates I never had the issues I have with NY plates.
Well, I guess it's to me this time. I worked a 3 day music fest setting up then running the first aid group for the event, then breaking down late Sunday afterwards. I got home in the driveway about 2am Monday morning, no moon. I had the trailer and Mule on the truck so I just pulled it in and parked it in a handy place where I usually don't park. There was no moonlight, but as it is my own place I didn't bother to pull my flashlight out of my pocket, so as I turned the corner too go up the front walk my right foot caught one of those "pretty" rocks my wife had laid along the path. I went down hard and whacked pretty good on the blue-stone walk. Cut and bled pretty good,my shirt was covered. No big deal, but it really rang my bell. I washed and cleaned it up best I could and went to bed. Now almost 3 days out my working diagnosis is that I have a mild concussion. The headache is constant and annoying, stomach never feels 'right', and I am a bit irritable. I sleep well, but get tired easy in the afternoon, pretty tired. i'll be slowing down for a while here. But at least the cut is closing up well.
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OG,
Ouch! Looks like you could use a few stitches if not too late to get them. At minimum a few steri-strips to close that gap. Probably going to have a big old keloid scar. Sounds like you need to bite the bullet and go to the horsepistol (Or as you old Noggies call it - the Sykhus) and maybe get an X-Ray or such and a second opinion.
I agree with an x-ray. when hit with something hard enough, those blue stones are prone to fracture. the hard part is finding someone who will x-ray a rock. :D :D :D. just like the crappy-est logs, we talk about the character. looks like it may be adding some. hope you recover soon. a ct will show fracture or bleeding inside the skull, and worrisome if on a blood thinner. concussion is based on symptoms and you do prob. have that. the redness around the wound is called granulation and part of the healing, not infection. god bless.
I had a locust job Saturday. Before I started I did my mandatory safety talk, including " always be careful of your fingers, the wood and the steel deck". You guessed it, second log, go to help the client remove a 4x8x10' beam and pinch my right hand middle finger between the beam and the top of the outrigger. Actually "slammed" might better describe what I did!
It looked right at the client and said remember not to do that.
He said he was sure I had broke it because of the sound it made. It still hurts today but I didn't break it.
mh
Yeah Doc, that stone don't look too good, but I have already replaced it with another, softer, one. I don't have any of the other fracture symptoms, no point pressure or discoloration, was more concerned about intracranial hemorrhage, which I have no indicators for. Also, no meds to mess things up, I am drug free. If I was on thinners, I would have been in the E/D that night because you don't get a lot of second chances with that. (Beer however, is a different story, but I am staying away from that until things are back to what represents normal for me.)
@moosehunter (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1405) : Ice may help that but just because it ain't broke doesn't mean you may not have a problem. Digits are pesky little things, you may have cut the muscle or done some good nerve damage. Keep a close eye on that, by now the pain should be pretty much gone except when you bend or use it. If that is not the case, or bending it makes you feel like heaving, you'd better get it checked out. (And Yes, this is the pot calling the kettle black, I am aware.) Good luck with it.
It only hurts enough to remind me what I did! Now last night when I knocked on the neighbors door with that hand,... Does that count as a continuation of the same dumb thing or is that a separate dumb thing?
mh
I think it's not a new one, I believe it is more like 'multiplier points' or something like that. ;D :D
@moosehunter (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1405) i would ask you to post a pic, but the admin guys would prob. take it off and such, being the middle finger and all. sorry you got pinched.
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
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Quote from: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
It only hurts enough to remind me what I did! Now last night when I knocked on the neighbors door with that hand,... Does that count as a continuation of the same dumb thing or is that a separate dumb thing?
mh
It never fails. If I injure a finger that is the one that takes the hit every time I walk by a sharp corner or need something. Years ago I took the tip off the second finnger of my left hand in a table saw, had a splint. Every so often I would hit the underside of the dash of my pick up while rolling the window up, I would roll to the side of the road, throw it out of gear, suck wind and wipe the tears. Man, that hurt.
Quote from: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
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I dunno, looks like you got a pretty good run toward the bone before it stopped, but There doesn't seem to be a lot of bruising, so it should heal up ok. The photos aren't the game here, or I hope not. I waited over two days to take mine, mostly because it was the only way I could see it (I am not discussing this with my wife). I should have gotten one before I cleaned myself up. I do have one of the shirt because I am going to have to get a replacement next year and I might need proof. It doesn't look as bad as it could have. ;D
That looks like it hurt Old Greenhorn. Get some rest.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on August 28, 2019, 07:36:37 PM
That looks like it hurt Old Greenhorn. Get some rest.
Yeah, it kinda did, well it still does. I have a full blown schedule overloaded at work and it's nuts, so I can't take any time off. But I am taking it easy at home, just doing a few things and getting to bed early. I just wish this persistent headache would go away. The cut is pretty much dried up now, no seeping at all today and it survived the shower tonight. I'll live, always have so far. ;D
Quote from: Chuck White on August 04, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
I have traveled across the border and took the 401W, then crossed over at Sault St Marie, MI just to avoid getting near Chicago!
To me, it was well worth the trip!
You really took the long way around, I dont find traveling through Detroit to the border Windsor or vis versa a problem very straight forward. Chicago is busy in rush hr. but I try to plan it out to avoid it if possible.If you take Sarnia it would be better and still avoid Detroit.
Well, My home is here in NY and I was stationed at Ellsworth AFB, SD! I spent 8 years there and travelled home every other year for leave and always looked for something different! My normal route from home was to go South on I-81 until I got to I-80, the take I-80 all the way to Sioux City, IA (to avoid the cities and the toll roads), then I-29N to Sioux Falls, SD, then I-90 to Ellsworth AFB!
So, going through Canada to Sault St Marie was a welcome change!
Yup that makes sense. We have the pass for tolls and if the traffic is light can make it through Chicago with out slowing up, that would be around 8,9 PM.
Hi...
I dont know if this will work.
I fell up my unfinished concrete stairs. Now have 6 inch scar on forearm. Treated with swearing, cold water and honey!
Good luck.
T
welcome Tam, that will work... and does your honey have a name? :D. some folks tend to post on this thread more than others!
Falling up stairs counts! Heck falling counts!
Dropped a coiled saw blade and could not get away fast enough! It was
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like 158" of cat claws coming after me!
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
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I dunno, looks like you got a pretty good run toward the bone before it stopped, but There doesn't seem to be a lot of bruising, so it should heal up ok. The photos aren't the game here, or I hope not. I waited over two days to take mine, mostly because it was the only way I could see it (I am not discussing this with my wife). I should have gotten one before I cleaned myself up. I do have one of the shirt because I am going to have to get a replacement next year and I might need proof. It doesn't look as bad as it could have. ;D
I am very new and also that dreaded thing, female! I avoid doctors and hospitals like the plague. Standard comment to children, dont come running to me with a broken leg. Please smile.
They have managed a few other things...
General comment...unless you can see bone or pumping blood (arterial) I dont really bother. Head wounds, a bit different. bleed like (EDITED BY ADMIN) If they dont I worry!
Swearing, cold water and honey, with a bit of clean old sheet works well. Not as furry as proper bandages!
Any way up. IF you still have a headache after 3 days, go to the docs. Broken fingers and toes work well when braced with ice cream sticks and tape. Electrical for preference.
And I might send you a picture of my latest patient. Broken legged 3mo hen. Bit of a limp, but 3 weeks ago could not walk!
Please laugh at me..used to it...want to ask some sensible questions.
Tam, you are too funny! 😄
We mostly laugh together here!
Welcome!
Quote from: SawyerTed on August 31, 2019, 11:03:53 AM
Falling up stairs counts! Heck falling counts!
Dropped a coiled saw blade and could not get away fast enough! It was
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like 158" of cat claws coming after me!
Ok!
Get that hairy leg up and in cool water, loads of salt. Like almost floating! It will hurt, but..
Assume not near femoral, (EDITED BY ADMIN)
You have tetanus injection?
Any sort of honey will work, proper un-past-your -eyes, phonetic ( not messed about with is best) I cannot spell.
Leave the littlest bites uncovered. Wounds heal better uncovered.
You can to save your beauty..(lol very hairy legs) when the scars start to form use a cold cream to soften scabs. NOT anything like the Q10 face cream stuff! Does Nivea or Ponds still exist in USA?
The Q10 stuff BURNS like fire!
I know, got impatient with a pressure cooker! No scars, but had blisters from mid forearm to mid shoulder both arms! Old fashioned Nivea, ran out..and put the Q10 stuff on instead...spent 10 minutes in the shower yelling!
Good luck..sorry old fashioned..
T
Thanks,
Pretending to be a bit dumb is the mission of my life.
Do not tell anyone I actually have a brain please :D
They would expect me to join in with "REAL LIFE".
Quote from: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
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I dunno, looks like you got a pretty good run toward the bone before it stopped, but There doesn't seem to be a lot of bruising, so it should heal up ok. The photos aren't the game here, or I hope not. I waited over two days to take mine, mostly because it was the only way I could see it (I am not discussing this with my wife). I should have gotten one before I cleaned myself up. I do have one of the shirt because I am going to have to get a replacement next year and I might need proof. It doesn't look as bad as it could have. ;D
I am very new and also that dreaded thing, female! I avoid doctors and hospitals like the plague. Standard comment to children, dont come running to me with a broken leg. Please smile.
They have managed a few other things...
General comment...unless you can see bone or pumping blood (arterial) I dont really bother. Head wounds, a bit different. bleed like hell (moderators, I AM English!). If they dont I worry!
Swearing, cold water and honey, with a bit of clean old sheet works well. Not as furry as proper bandages!
Any way up. IF you still have a headache after 3 days, go to the docs. Broken fingers and toes work well when braced with ice cream sticks and tape. Electrical for preference.
And I might send you a picture of my latest patient. Broken legged 3mo hen. Bit of a limp, but 3 weeks ago could not walk!
Please laugh at me..used to it...want to ask some sensible questions.
Quote from: SawyerTed on August 31, 2019, 11:38:46 AM
Tam, you are too funny! 😄
We mostly laugh together here!
Welcome!
Thanks a lot.. You BUGGER! If you offer me tartan paint, sky hooks and a long weight. I will take it under advisement!
You made me feel young again. Ta.
Quote from: doc henderson on August 31, 2019, 11:01:45 AM
welcome Tam, that will work... and does your honey have a name? :D. some folks tend to post on this thread more than others!
Thanks for the welcome in!
Really appreciated.. made my laugh out loud, when i realised i had been spouffed!
Has not happened since I was about 19..
Last time it happened..I was laying a cement floor, needed ballast for the floor, hardcore in in uk speak. they got me to walk into a all male hut (girlie calenders etc) and ask for a ton of hardcore the size of my fist!
AND No my LUUVERS ( Devonian for friends) I am not actually that gullible, but thanks for the laugh!
Welcome Tam - a great start to a new member.
I saw on your 'reason to join' that you're curious about how people in the USA 'do things'.
I believe that if you're using a lot of white oak to stay warm in Bulgaria, that the Canadians also have a lot to offer. ;D
While the Americans are sweating through another sweltering summer - the Canadians are stocking in another 10 cords of firewood because there's a "nip in the air".
Well, usually here it is up to 26-28deg in summer. July to Sept. Sudden and I do mean sudden, two or three day can go from 26deg to 10deg C. Daytime temps..
It can be minus 25c here for about a couple of weeks. warms up and drops again. minus 25c is sort of normal!
For about 3 to 4 months..ish!
So we do wood collection.
OH Deity. American males...LOL
Any wood produced near me should be either building material or will be burnt!
I can get my stove up to pig skull burning heat!
Laugh, direct me to the jokers who do building!
T
Tam, where are you located?
Tam -
Welcome to the Forum. Would love to hear more about your part of the world, what folks do, grow, etc. We love photos here too!!
I have to make a full confession, I had forgotten about this (maybe because of the concussion in my previous dumb move, but 3 days before that when I was working on festival setup and running around doing all sorts of things, I had hung my chaps on the tailgate of the truck to dry. Two hours later I had to run home to get some more power cables. I forgot about the chaps and drove the 5 miles home at about 40 MPH and when I got out of the truck, saw this. Man was I lucky I didn't lose them. That was the dumbest thing I have done in a very long time, until that other thing 3 days later. :D :D :D
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2 things not to do. Put stuff on tailgate,tail gate down. Put stuff in loader on tractor. All stuff you think, I will not forget I put them there. :D
Should we start a thread on this? :D
I did that one time with my camera, a very nice dslr. I set it on the roof of my car. Realized I left something somewhere. jumped in car angry and took off. came back home to a pile of camera all over the road. That was a very expensive lesson to learn.
Now nothing ever gets put on top of the car or any of the places listed above :)
Putting stuff in the loader bucket probably deserves it's own topic. ;D
Not that I ever did that and then forgot. :D :D
Guys used to toss a big logging chain in the loader bucket, then one day someone scooped up a bucket of shavings and dumped them into the hopper. Well that chain made its way through 4 bed augers and managed to wrap itself around an elevated 14" auger before breakers started to trip out. After that it was a fireable offense to put anything metal into the bucket.
I set one of my kids car seats on the cover of my truck bed and forgot about it. I remembered it when I saw something move in my rear view mirror. The seat did not fair too well when it hit the highway. Luckily there was no kid in it.
did something similar but my 2 y/o son was in it!!! it was in the back seat of my king cab. as I approached a stoplight i could see in the mirror it was leaning forward let off the brake to let it fall back, but 2 lanes of stopped cars in front forced me to cont. stopping. face down on the floor board he went. we had 2 kids and four car seats but occ. moved them around for grandparents to take kids. this one was not reinstalled correctly. he is a first year college student now so doing ok, but he was scared and mad.
Apparently I am not alone. Who'd have thought? ;D :D
Re Items left on the top of vehicles -My wife bought our young son a hamster from K-Mart in Jacksonville NC 30 years or so ago. It died a day or so later but had a 7 day live guarantee so she called the pet dept and they said no rush just bring it the next time she came to town so she put it in a zip lock bag in the freezer. Several days later she was going to town so she took out the dead frozen hamster and went to the car and realized she had left her purse. She put the hamster on top of the car and went back and got her purse, jumped in the car, took off forgetting about the hamster. She drove a mile then remembered the hamster got out and checked but it had blown off. She turned around and drove slowly checking the road between there and home. There was very little traffic that time of day but at least one vehicle had rolled over the hamster so now she had a dead, flat, frozen hamster. She took it to the pet department and showed it to the clerk and said "My hamster died." The guy looked at it and asked "My God, Lady, what did you do to it?" She explained and he decided the tale was to bizarre to be false and gave her another hamster.
Oh you are so not alone...
1 eletro cautery unit in a little in a little white plastic tote does not ride for 39 miles on the top of a vet box oh and they are free(not!). I did the chain in the loader bucket the other day too, have a chain hook in the center of the bucket. I had moved a log to the mill the night before, bucket had a six foot tail when I dumped out the scoop of sand. .
I have learned if I use chains in the bucket to always drape them over and hook them to my hook. Otherwise I start yelling at everyone for not putting them back. Unfortunately that everyone is almost always me :)
Here is what my bucket hooks look like. This is why I am able to just hang them over the bucket and hook them.
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That's a pretty neat idea! Have you ever had a chain slip out? Hanging over the front takes some load off the hook I would think and makes the chains visible to the operator. Hope I get a chance to try that some day.
yes, I have had chains fall out. But only when I had it hanging on the back (not over the bucket) to try to get the extra lift capacity having the load closer to the pin. When I lift from the rear I need to roll the bucket forward to hold the chains in. When I dropped the chain I had a bucket full of chainsaws and other stuff so I was not able to curl the bucket forward as far as I wanted. It wasn't a big deal. I got off the tractor, hooked it up again, hanging the tail over the front of the bucket then lifted.
I have thought about bending the angle up just slightly so it can't fall off. but I am not sure my break is up to the task. Overall though I love those hooks. They have been the best thing I have done to my tractor. I even made a matching set for the rear quick hitch.
With the choker chains I got at Boonville they are a perfect combination with the hooks.
Here is a pic of the rear hooks.
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@Crusarius (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) have you considered welding a small piece of round drop off as a retainer? Here is a crude sketch to explain my thought poissibly using 3/8 or 1/2 round stock.
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This might provide just enough to keep it in the slot when it gets a little marginal. The ones on your hitch probably don't need it because the load ia always down, right? but on the bucket, it changes.
Anyway, just a thought.
I have thought about that. also thought about just welding a bead along there. it does not take much to hold them in place. a bead would be sufficient. But since they are already all nice and painted and mounted to the bucket for the few times I have had issues it does not matter to me. Ideally if I could put that in the break and angle it up a couple degrees it would be perfect. welding that stock on there is alot more work than I am willing to invest in them.
If they were 3/8" stock I would just mill a slot for the links to fit horizontally. That would fix that issue but I am only using 1/4" stock.
I went to the store one time to fill my travel mug with coffey. Had a guy at the store show me his new chain saw. I put my cup on the bumper of my truck. Yup, it was there when I got home. 8)
On Thursday, I laid the bar for adjusting the jacks on my mill on the rail next to the hydraulics box. I drove 14 miles home and 17 miles to my next job. It was there Friday morning when I got there. :)
Ted,
You are lucky - Mine didn't make it 10 miles from my son's house to my home when I did that. :(
Loosing that bar was always my greatest fear before I got the FAO's. The thing is made out of unobtanium!!!
Any time I lay my bar down, other than put it where it belongs, I ALWAYS put it so that it's actually "in the way"! Doing so ensures that it won't be missed!
A few years back, I laid it down at the tail end on the mill and drove home, 1½ miles and it was gone, drove back and didn't find it, about 10 days later while driving my school bus route I spotted it laying beside the road, 1/2 mile from home! After bus run, I went and picked it up!
Worse part was about 4-5 days after losing it, I ordered another one from Wood-Mizer at a cost of $22.00, and in the meantime I was sawing for a customer and told him of it and he said he had something like that and he gave it to me!
So then I had 3 lifting bars, I gave one to my FIL who lost his years before, and I have a spare in the cabinet!
They are definitely made of some very hard stuff!
Knew it was going to be a day when I put the coffee pod in my coffee cup instead of the Kuerig this morning. Sawing hemlock for a 16' x 20' addition to deer camp. Had a 16' log on the mill from yesterday, so started the engines to warm and decided to grease the guide wheels and band wheels. What was I thinking! Guess I wasn't!! It's just the pressure is on to get the material sawn for the addition. The grease zerk on the inside of the drive side was in need of cleaning, I reached thru from the operators side with a grease rag, a no-no. Here's why. The rag and my arm put enough tension on the drive belt to start turning, just like throwing the tensioner handle on. Pulled my wrist and forearm in between an active belt and belt pulley. The engine stalled but not prior to my receiving some good belt burns and scratches. I blame it on my new beagle puppy getting me up three times during the night! So I guess I call it as a safety meeting
this morning!
That's scary. Don't do that.
glad you are ok, taught us all a valuable lesson!
Well, who'd have thunk it, but it's my turn again. I was doing some work helping the new neighbors today cutting some nuisance trees for them getting their place ready for a wedding. I had to fuel up and we were chatting while I did that and I took both caps off the saw and poured the bar oil into the gas tank. First time in my life I have EVER done this. (No kidding, really, never before, honest) As I am answering the question I was asked, while pouring I realized what I was doing. All I could do was laugh at myself. They had no idea why I started laughing, then cursing a little. Took it off into the woods and dumped it. At least I didn't try to start it. re-fueled and went about the work, but because I had wasted the single tank of bar oil, I came up short to finish the day. I had used up the end of the gallon jug. SMH When I threw my stuff in the truck this morning I knew that jug was nearly empty, but i hefted it and thought "yeah, this will be enough" and it would have, if I hadn't dumped the tank. Sometimes I amaze me. ;D
Did that recently for the first time too. It smoked a bit more through that first tank afterwards.
Nope I have never done that, but I have come close. Not sure I will admit it when I do! :D If the saw runs better after let us know, maybe we will all try it. always happens with people watching. that is part of why we have people step out for procedures. If they were videoing you, the saw would prob. have exploded. :o
When I first got my Sthil saw, I would open both tanks and fill them. About the third or forth time, I caught myself dumping gas into the oil. Well, it wasn't until I went to put the oil in that I thought something was strange/backwards. I just had to dump the gas out of the oil tank and I was good. Since that day about 4 years ago, I only open the tank when I have in my hand what is going in there!
That's just cleaning out the bar oil reservoir, crud and sawdust can fall in there and that fuel mixture floats it out so nice. ;) Funny how i t follows with cursing. I caught myself doing it a while ago, I was mentally doing something else. Never gotten more than splash in there over the years, but it's happened once or twice.
Oil in the gas tank is bad but forgetting to put the cap on the oil tank is worse. That mess is hard to get out of your work boots!! :-X
QuoteI put my cup on the bumper of my truck. Yup, it was there when I got home.
There is actually a low pressure suction created behind the back of a vehicle while driving, it will help hold objects in place.
QuoteDid that recently for the first time too. It smoked a bit more through that first tank afterwards.
I had a customer buy a used chainsaw cheap from a homeowner who thought he had ruined it by putting oil in the gas / gas in the oil.
crowhill, that is why I never trust myself working on running machinery. ::) I have done more than a few dumb things over the years but nothing recent. At least I don't think I have but the memory ain't what it used to be.
I have never done that, to my knowledge. What I did years ago while fighting a brush fire was put fuel into the backpack blower I was using and then forgot to put the gas cap back on. Can you imagine how bad that could have been if I had walked into the fire with gas pouring off the blower on my back. If I remember correctly, I ran out of gas before I ever made it up the hill to the fire.
Do what I do....I have big RED piece of duct tape right in front of my eyes before I saw......LOOK at Bunks....raise saw head after cut....? Seems to work.....that's my story also...lol
Yesterday I was in need of 2x4s and had 2x8s. so a quick run smiley_horserider up to the mill and put 5 on locked them down an ran across at 8" to level the crook in a couple of them. Flipped them over and locked them down. Checked the front stops lower than 4"s and run right into the back stop ;D.What a mess almost new 10° WM blade thems are sharp cut into the stop a 1/4" tried to pull it back an pulled it off the wheels :o. Had to drive a wedge in the end to get the blade out >:(.
Not that hasn't been done before but the blade never sawed that deep :o.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 16, 2019, 07:57:08 PM
I have never done that, to my knowledge. What I did years ago while fighting a brush fire was put fuel into the backpack blower I was using and then forgot to put the gas cap back on. Can you imagine how bad that could have been if I had walked into the fire with gas pouring off the blower on my back. If I remember correctly, I ran out of gas before I ever made it up the hill to the fire.
What purpose does a back pack blower serve in fighting a fire?
blowing leaves out of the fire break.
SS, a big part of fighting brush fires is creating the fire line. This is especially true with what we call 'creepers' which are smaller brush fires in higher humidity conditions that creep along the ground in the duff and leaves and underbrush. To do this you need bare ground and digging is labor intensive and slow. Moving along with a leaf blower allows one to create a 4-6 foot wide path mostly free of ground litter pretty quickly. It isn't the end all solution, followup is need on un-blowable stuff, etc, but it is a quick first pass to remove a large percentage. A crew of 3-4 can move in a line, the first guy blows, the second guy has a grub ax to move out the brush, and the third guy might have a chainsaw. Everything is moved from the unburned area into the burn side so that any hidden embers will be allowed to burn out safely.
This fire line is then walked regularly to stamp out any cross overs and trim up root trails etc. Every fire is different, but this is a basic layout. This is how we do it in the northeast where the humidity is higher than out west. Not sure if it would apply there as much. East Coast and West Coast firefighting techniques and fire types are so very different that it's like we are on different planets. Heck we don't even use the same terms for the same equipment.
Ask a firefighter from each coast what the difference is between a "tender' and a 'tanker' and you will get very different answers. ;D :D
Let's just say if you call for a tanker on the west coast, you had better know what you are asking for, on the East coast, not so much. :)
Ok - thanks. The only wildland fire I have ever been involved with - seen plenty as an observer - was involving a feller buncher that caught. The local Forest Ranger had two flat tires while enroute with his Indian tanks, in the meantime the contractor sent over a BIG grapple skidder who hooked onto the tracked buncher and drug it into the opening. Not too long after the landowner, Irving Forest Products, had a helicopter over head dropping water and other than a crispy buncher not much was lost, well except for the State owned tires.... ::)
Here in MO our fire seasons are in the spring and fall when the humidity gets low. There is a lot of leaf litter on the ground and that's what the fire mainly travels in here. We use blowers to create fire breaks as described previously. Very different from out west. I used to fight fire out there too. My favorite tool was the Pulaski. I have several that I use around here for everything and anything.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 19, 2019, 08:56:15 PM
My favorite tool was the Pulaski. I have several that I use around here for everything and anything.
I am with you FFotS, that was my first hand tool to grab off the rig, very versatile and light. Wish I had one around here. I was tempted to scoff one off a rig, but just couldn't do it, and we never broke one that I could take and fix. I'd love to have one strapped on my Mule. We get very few heavy fast crown fires up here. but the last big one I worked was like that and blew over a 400 foot safety zone. Pretty scary stuff, changed the way the evaluate every fire in the state now. It could have killed 75 firefighters, but they bailed just in time. That was a rough job, every chopper in the region worked that job moving water and gear. It still pops up in my dreams from time to time. When you see the federal guys, the big 40 year fire bosses walking around white as a sheet, you know it was a close call.
I kind of miss it, but am getting old.
We get an occasional fired up here mostly in the early spring if it's dry along the railroad tracks,
or somebody's combine catches on fire in a field in the fall. For those they usually get a couple tractors and discs and make a fire break that way. I just wondered what a Pulaski was?? Not much forest here.
It is an axe with a second blade at right angle, it can be used as an axe or as a hoe. Also referred to as a grub hoe. Very useful for clearing firebreaks and exposing burning roots. Did my apprenticeship on a mop up crew when I was 18, talk about hot, dirty, miserable work but it paid decent with no tax deductions and we got fed well. 150 bucks for ten days work, I thought I had the world by the tail on a downhill pull. :D
When I think about some of the dumb things I got away with I shudder.
Quote from: sawguy21 on September 19, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
It is an axe with a second blade at right angle, it can be used as an axe or as a hoe. Also referred to as a grub hoe. Very useful for clearing firebreaks and exposing burning roots. Did my apprenticeship on a mop up crew when I was 18, talk about hot, dirty, miserable work but it paid decent with no tax deductions and we got fed well. 150 bucks for ten days work, I thought I had the world by the tail on a downhill pull. :D
When I think about some of the dumb things I got away with I shudder.
Been there done that, though in a few different situations. But in my opinion it does not fit in the "Did something dumb today" thread. It built character,work ethic,value of a dollar, and most of all "who you are".
Well I could've search engined the Pulaski thing, but this is a better place to ask instead. Here the thread is back on track. I must've grabbed the winter weight bar oil when I fueled my big saw last time, not so good, got a bit warmish, and smoked a little, but no I hadn't put fuel in the wrong hole. I'll put the jug under the bench for February the most useless month of the year.
I sure miss fighting fire out west. Some of the best times. Speaking of doing something dumb, I went to a fire in Yellowstone and had to protect a pile of trash left by Roosevelt when he visited the park. Lots of tin cans and an abandoned Ford. It was a historical landmark.
The second pic is me and my Pulaski in Oregon, by mount Washington.
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Very handsome!
The Pulaski, that is :D.
Lots of things in the picture look better than me.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 20, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
Lots of things in the picture look better than me.
That's funny FFotS. When I saw the photos and before I read your follow up comment, I thought to myself, man we ALL looked the same in the yellow shirts and green pants and (mostly) yellow hardhats and neck shields. There are few outfits that are LESS attractive and unsexy than that. Has nothing to do with you, I looked worse probably (OK, assuredly). My gear still sits in a go bag on the other side of the room. I think I will leave it there. Although the shirts were pretty comfortable, the pants always made my butt look fat.
Originally I had a yellow helmet, but Firecache had a deal on that green wide brimmed one. I think it was some kind of forest service anniversary edition.
Because of the wildland experience i came to dislike the plain hats and moved to the full brim also. (neck protection from ash and branches, also better balance). The hat I wore on the fire-line bit the dust a year ago. I wear orange now. I might get red for my next one. I have no idea why. As long as it isn't white. White helmets still make me shudder. ;D (I assume you get the reference.) I always wanted to get one of those helmet stickers that said "white helmets kill brain cells", but I would never had the guts to put it on, I got in enough trouble without it. :D
Yeah, I get the reference.
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OOOPPSSS! My bad! ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D
Had no idea you were a BC, congrats. Keep your head on a swivel and your people safe. I worried enough about mine as the Cap, but as a BC, well, I never wanted that. Tough duty.
I'm happy where I'm at. I have 9 folks that work for me. That's as high as I will ever go. I see the stress that the Chief has to deal with. I like being on shift instead of days. At one time I aspired to be a Fire Chief, but not anymore. Now I aspire to work 10 or less more years and then do woodworking/sawmill until I'm tired.
It is funny. when my brother worked for a big road construction company, he wanted me to visit him on the job. He gave me a white hard hat. I said won't people wonder who I am? sure enough I went visit, drove 12 miles across the job past gates and barricades wearing that hat. everyone waved like they knew me. they just though I was the big boss from corporate.
Years ago I worked for a summer as foreman on a construction project, I knew squat about building water lines but had done a stint as a surveyor's helper so was the most experienced ::). I wore a siver aluminum hard hat, the crew told me to keep it on so they could see me coming.
Does tucking my cap behind my belt and not finding it till I flushed the toilet qualify for posting here?
:D
Does not gathering your bib overall straps qualify?? ::)
in construction the "white hats" are the bosses, in medicine the length of your white coat is like a rank. med students hip length short, attending professors, knee length long.
MM - Is that similar to forgetting to remove your nail apron before you go pee?
Doc - My favorite was Robin Williams in his white butcher's coat in Patch Adams. :D
Never have to remove it. I have that one down to a science. :P
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on September 21, 2019, 07:12:06 PM
Does tucking my cap behind my belt and not finding it till I flushed the toilet qualify for posting here?
Yes! :D :D
Quote from: Magicman on September 21, 2019, 08:11:48 PM
Does not gathering your bib overall straps qualify?? ::)
And Yes! :D :D
I had a good laugh one day out on the mill, the helper was wearing a Stihl helmet with the ear protectors and a screen face shield.
Well, this guy chewed (do I need to say more) well he spit without raising the screen! ROFL smiley_roller
First thing the guy did was look to see if I saw it! laugh_at I did!
In the end, we both had a good laugh!
Last night at the fish fry our 7 y/o gd Molly asked her grandma for her truck keys so she could get her stuff out and transfer to her mom's car. Becky gave her the keys and showed her how to push the remote 2 times to unlock the front then the back doors. A few minutes later Molly and sister Abbie returned and said it was not working. Becky quizzed her on how she had tried to use it then decided her remote had died and asked me for mine and I reminded her I don't have a remote for my truck. They discussed the issue some more and finally I reminded her we had driven my truck, not hers, which was why the remote was not working so Molly borrowed my key and went and got her stuff. Becky had my key on her ring too so really no need for mine. Becky and my DIL had a good laugh when they realized what they had done. I am not sure Molly thought it was so funny.
:D
Well - this is along the lines of WV's situation, I didn't do it, but was pulled in as an observer. Couple weeks back my wife and I made a run to town for groceries and such. Well we are in Sams wandering around the store and I had parked the cart to grab something and another guy had parked their cart by mine. Other guy walks back to the carts and begins to stroll away smiling with my cart, now I am watching this and thinking "hua, this is going to be interesting" he got maybe 10 feet away when either wifey or girlfriend comes around the corner, looks at the cart, looks up at him, looks back at the cart, then back up at him. Suddenly a black cloud formed around her, the winds picked up, lightning and thunder broke out and her face peeled off, skin, muscles, suddenly bare bone showed as she elevated several feet off of the ground in a true Poltergeist or Indiana Jones type of scene. This response from her caused "other guy" to look at the shopping cart he was pushing and evaluate the contents, or lack there of, in the cart - no big deal right, he has the wrong stuff, the store has plenty more. Only problem was the cart he left behind contained a child in it, clearly hers, and now I am not sure if it's his or not. In what can only be described as one small step for mankind, one giant leap for "other guy" he instantly realizes his error and sprints back to his child containing cart, looks at me knowing that he is about to walk into the light, and pushes away. Now he has two carts, a demonic presence hovering over him, and no idea what to do, so he leaves his cart with the raging storm coddling the child, pure Ghost Busters by now, and returns my cart and sort of mumbles something along the lines of "sorry". Well, I am really trying not to laugh and my wife is just about to my side by this time dumbfounded. They leave and we have a good laugh about it at his expense.
We finish our shopping and head across the what - 15 acre parking lot - get to the van and what to my wondering eyes should appear? But "other guy" and his "Dear". So we load the stuff into the cooler bags that we bring and nobody is really saying much, "other guy" fills his vehicle in record time and is about to push the cart away when my good nature came out - was just trying to be helpful - and I asked him "Sure you got everything?" So he kind of laughs and says "yea" and while managing to keep a straight face I looked right at him and said "I am not sure how, but you realize she is going to kill you, right?" to which he just kind of stared at me and gave a nervous half smile. My wife overheard me and later said that was not nice, but it sure seemed like the thing to say at the moment. ;D
While we are talking about shopping carts, remember if you are bored in WalMart while your wife shops to entertain yourself you can do things like sneak pregnancy test kits into old couples buggies, condoms into the priests cart, a bottle of wine in the Baptist preacher's cart, etc. then watch when they get to the checkout line.
I had a friend in Albany GA who ran the dry cleaners and he had a fake pair of ladies bloomers about 100" waist size and he'd get a stack of clothes, shake them and the bloomers would fall out and he'd pick them up and stretch them out for all to see. Once he did that and the man who dropped off the clothes got beet red, grabbed the bloomers, stuffed them in his shirt and walked out. We always wondered what his wife looked like.
Years ago in church after helping with the offering a distracted member came back and sat down in his pew only he was one row off and the lady he was sitting beside was not his wife who was in the row behind. This was an honest and harmless error and nobody thought much of it till he looked over and saw the strange woman beside him then he literally screamed, jumped up and ran to the seat behind him. The error was easy to make and correct with a simple "Excuse me" but his reaction was priceless and broke up the entire congregation.
I usually do the shopping cart thing with my wife just to see how long it takes her to notice some absolutely ridiculous item in there, things like a 5 lb chocolate cake or 20" cookie. One time I found a pair of massive clown slippers and tossed them in, these things were huge, she didn't pick up on it for a while, and when she did I put them in a random, unattended cart - never leave your cart unattended or your vehicle un locked at the county fair - you never know how many Zucchini you will find in there when you return :D. I was still in observation range when the cart driver returned. He picked those up and with a bewildered look was searching for the vandal, who was nowhere to be found while hiding in plain sight.... ;D
I have almost done the wrong shopping cart,but I was not pushing a baby!!!
This one makes me shudder, I almost absentmindedly asked if a young lady was "expecting" the other day while making small talk over a new kitten in the office, she had her 3 year old in tow. I have never made that mistake before, turns out she was. She volunteered the information herself. Several years ago I witnessed one of those incidents and vanished like a puff of smoke outside to get something out of my vet truck. I was "not" the guilty party. ::)
In private practice at one point or another, all of my nurses made that mistake at least once, and for most only once. i think as long as it is not your wife, you are ok. i usually exclaim, "What did you have for lunch?" but i am sure i will get in trouble for that one someday. i usually already know they are pregnant. I fear someday they may relate that indeed it was over lunch... ;) :) 8)
So I share my birthday week with my daughter in law and the two step daughters of my best friend. So my best friend and his wife threw a birthday bash for the four of us - me, my daughter in law and my friends step daughters. Did I say the three women are between 26 and 31?
When the carrot cake birthday cakes came out, the three girls started trying to smear cream cheese icing on each other. I had faded into the background. The three of them decided that I needed to have cream cheese icing smeared on my face too!
Apparently, I didn't protest enough.......
:D I would have paid admission to see that.
Pretty sure that's called a "cover charge" sawguy... :D
My dumb thing for today was making all the parts for 8 rail and stile cabinet doors. The dumb part was making all of the rails one inch too short. Consequently I will be making them all again tomorrow. Planing, jointing, cutting, milling at the router table.
could just make some shorter cabinets! @firefighter ontheside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921) . sweet @SawyerTed (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503)
Was having chainsaw irritation,....switched bars when it was getting dark had a new Oregon 20 inch loop. Got the bar switched it was dark when finished stowed the saw under the mill shed gave up for the night. Last night between rain showers I went out set the beam machine on the 2x4 started back down into the cut. No chips right away, instantly realized that I had put the chain on backwards in the dark two nights ago. > :-[ Was really impressed with myself,luckily no witnesses I'm safe. 8) ..
Not the first time that has been done. :D
I was probably "due" honestly been a while since I had done it.
I just did it the other day,putting a chain on backwards. I have no idea how,why I did. But as soon as I put the chain into,well onto the wood, :D I knew what I did. ::) I don't think I have ever done that before,but somehow knew I did it as soon as I did it. ;D
I haven't done that......yet.
I think they should start making 2 direction chains. Twice the life between sharpening :)
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard. :-X
southside I tried the other day. took me a bit an some help to turn the blade over.
Quote from: Southside on September 25, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard. :-X
Yes, I have 'Heard" this also. >:( ;D ;D ;)
An acquaintance inherited an old two man saw from his grandfather, apparently it wouldn't cut so the man threw it in the shed and forgot about it. You guessed it, the chain was on backwards. I tried to buy but no go DanG it!!
Probably my third band out of the box of 10 that came with mill opened up reversed. I started to put it on the mill and then thought..... :o "oh no it's the wrong blade, that won't work" for just a second and the light went on, ......oh yeah flip it over dummy..... After that little set back I also always wear gloves when handling blades, because of course afterwards all I could find was a box of "Buzz Light Year Toy Story band aids, I guess better than "Little Mermaid" for my ego I did get a "nice band aid" comment the next day at the clinic from my tech.
Just got a little father along on the sawmill learning curve there.
good for you @Nebraska (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) . only a few good men can pull off putting on a Disney princess bandaid. the grand kids would love it. good for you! to infinity and beyond! 8)
We cut firewood every winter for the people who help us with moving our beepers and buffalo and running them through our circle .Two years ago we were cutting for this one guy and he brought a saw .He must of hit the frozen ground and he was changing his chain .He could not get it to cut so my son and I were astonished to watch him totally destroy his nice saw .Needless to say he does not help us any more and his only comments was he could afford another new one.
Zeke
Quote from: Southside on September 25, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard. :-X
And then call the tech complaning the mill isn't sawing right.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 24, 2019, 10:48:44 PM
My dumb thing for today was making all the parts for 8 rail and stile cabinet doors. The dumb part was making all of the rails one inch too short. Consequently I will be making them all again tomorrow. Planing, jointing, cutting, milling at the router table.
"Inch syndrome" if I had a dollar for every time :D
For whatever reason laying on the ground fighting the chain onto the lucas slabbing bar it is real easy for me to get turned around. Not too bad till it happens back to back.
You know it helps one legitimatize a sawmill purchase with reducing the amount of rental fee's
one has to pay in renting the "board stretcher" at the home town lumber yard. I just don't know
why it was always rented out when I needed it. I think they just saw me coming. :D
This was a while back ago but I was making an order of stair treads for a customer. They came out of the kiln looking awesome. Through the edger they go to get them pre-sized for the moulder (can you hear the ominous foreshadowing music at this point?) Run them through the knock down planer and set up the moulder, they are all perfect. About to feed the first one into the moulder when, HOLY GAP PROBLEM BATMAN, HIT THAT KILL SWITCH!! So I double check the set up on the moulder and much to my chagrin she is spot on. Look back at the stair blank and for the life of me I can't understand what the problem is. Now we are not talking about a 1/16" width gap problem here, more like 2". 11 1/8" - that's what they should be, pull out the tape to check the blank and @#$%!@#%^, they are 9" and change - every single one of them. At some point after retrieving my tape measure from the other end of the building after strange forces drew it from my hand and caused it to defy gravity as it traversed the 100' length, I walked back over to the edger to check the scales (ahh that same music is playing again) accuracy. Lets see, left fence scale is dead on, right fence scale is dead on, adjustable fence scale is dead on. Scratch my head some more and suddenly there it is.... the 9 and 11 cross each other on the scales and I had used the left adjustable fence and read the right scale, meaning the edger had worked perfectly, now if only my customer had small feet...
In marketing, you always have to find that right customer ;D.
Quote from: Stephen1 on September 25, 2019, 07:06:54 PM
Quote from: Southside on September 25, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard. :-X
And then call the tech complaning the mill isn't sawing right.
I am pretty sure I did that early on with 2 blades on a job and I was so green and the problem was obvious the tech never thought to ask me about the teeth direction and just told be to send them back for replacement which I and they did. At least I did not complain about the mill. I just complained about this batch of "bad" blades.
I had a customer here once, he was a Boston Cab driver, he brought his recently sharpened "blade" for his chain saw. And was putting it on as I was getting ready to saw his logs.
I watched as a huge cloud of blue smoke rose from his cut.
I walked over and asked him: "will you get mad at me if I tell you that you put your chain on backwards". He said no.
I said to him "you put his chain on backwards."
Jim Rogers
Riding with a friend we had to stop by an acquaintance of his. He was in the yard and very unhappy couldn't get a saw to cut some cordwood. after talking awhile I looked at the saw. The chain was on backwards and he had tried to sharpen it that way :o. It just wouldn't cut >:(.
Quote from: Ed_K on September 26, 2019, 10:34:57 AM
Riding with a friend we had to stop by an acquaintance of his. He was in the yard and very unhappy couldn't get a saw to cut some cordwood. after talking awhile I looked at the saw. The chain was on backwards and he had tried to sharpen it that way :o. It just wouldn't cut >:(.
Well... I would think most folks at least would notice the chain on backwards if they tried to sharpen. Was there alcohol involved here? :o
Now watch me do this very thing next week.
Does not have anything to do with wood. The wife's dog. We let the dog have free range here. She was outside when I went out. I saw her come to me and went across a batch of grass and had a foot in the air.Thinking the grass was rough,crabgrass,weeds too,I thought she did not like the feel of it. I get on the tractor and head down to the road. She is running along beside me on 3 legs!! Stops to lick the foot and catches up with me. I stop the tractor and try to see what is wrong. I touch the foot and she yelps in pain. Broken foot? it does look odd at the end,by her toes. I carry her back to the house and tell the wife and she looks at it too. Something is wrong. We call the vet and get in an hour from now. They have a hard time looking at it too. They xray it and all is fine. Maybe bent it a little,bee sting. She gives her something to take the swollen down,you could see the swollen part and home we go.This all started at 1:30pm. Well by 8:pm she is bearing weight and acts like nothing wrong. Which is good,but we paid a vet bill for a bee sting!!!! ::) But at the time it gave us a peace of mind. The way she was acting it looked beyond bad. She was even sitting at an angle so that foot would not even touch the floor.
That's not dumb cfarm that's love for your dog. I would have done the same thing.
smiley_wavy Hope all is well up there.
Completely agree - would do the same thing. Now if it were my foot I would hobble around on it for a week before getting anyone to look at it, but if it was one of the dogs - no question.
Sampson, my 13 lb Rat Terrier and general knock around buddy, often runs around with one back foot in the air. I am not sure it is even the same foot all the time. I think it is to keep at least one foot dry and warm when the grass is wet or there is snow on the ground.
If you were in Korea majority would have eaten the dog!
I was trying to retrieve the messages from my stoopid blankety blank phone, finally called the carrier help line. " Well sir, it says here your call forward is activated". DOH!! He laughed, says it happens all the time.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on September 27, 2019, 08:13:14 AM
Sampson, my 13 lb Rat Terrier and general knock around buddy, often runs around with one back foot in the air. I am not sure it is even the same foot all the time. I think it is to keep at least one foot dry and warm when the grass is wet or there is snow on the ground.
My wife has 2 chihuahuas. One of them holds a foot up like that. Always a rear one, but no telling which one.
our chocolate lab Norman Rockwell and our blue healer Scout, had a routine. throw the ball for the retriever, and half way back he would be cut off by the healer, and his left rear foot would be carried in Scouts' mouth back to me. they would both sit and do it all over again all day long. named him Norman cause my dads dog was Coco and his father was named Hershey, so the good chocolate names were all used up. Scout after to kill a mocking bird. Norman after my favorite artist.
@doc henderson (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041)
You like Norman Hangshafter too!! Small world. :D
If spending money on dogs is dumb,I'm one of the dumbest.
My turn (again). I put a bunch of new parts on my Mule to get it back on the trail today. I was worried that the used front differential I bought was good. When I got it all assembled I rolled it back and forth under power and it sounded a little noisy, even at .01 MPH, just moving 5 feet forward and back. Then it dawned on me I hadn't put any grease in it. :o
Stupid move number two: I am moving and driving this thing VERY slowly listening for every creak, groan, grind, rub, or any other indicator of a problem. Sounds pretty good, so I start moving down the length of the driveway. Still sounds good, so I cut across the lawn to head for the skid road. When I dropped down on the lawn i hear this terrible CRUNCHING noise. I sopped, backed up, then rolled forward and it was gone. Now I am on pins and needles looking for a problem. I went across the road and dropped onto the neighbors driveway leading to the skid road. I heard it AGAIN, this time it was worse. Now I am wracking my brain as to what the heck I did to mess this up? Was the differential I bought bad, did I screw up and alignment on something? Did I totally miss something important? i am really stressing at this point, but I crept onto the skid trail and did a slow little loop and came back up. As I came up the driveway I began to realize what that gosh awful was.
Acorns.
They have been dropping lie mad in the past week and as I have not been driving the mule around, I was not used to the sound. It was freaking acorns that had me on pins and needles tearing myself apart for a stupid error in my work. ;D
Many times in my adult life I have been told by family, friends, and employers that I am my own worst enemy and my own worst critic. I guess this is proof. ;D :D
Thank you to all of you who spend money on your animals, it feeds my family. @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) thank you for brightening my evening.
I just got back from watching an old fashioned thrashing. Joke for you.... what's this.
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It's all the helmet stickers Ohio st gave out after the game this evening. I figured my road trip to Lincoln today qualified for a post here.
old greenhorn, I get that but usually the nuts are in the belt case. darn squirrels and mice seem to think its a good storage area. Hickory nuts scare the poop out of you the first time they get crunched when your driving.
I was down by the mill unhitching a log this morning when an acorn came down and whacked me on the shoulder blade. HOLY COW did THAT hurt! ;D It about brought stars to my eyes, but no blood that I could see. Now I have a little welt there. It's a lot worse than hitting a June Bug on your motorcycle. Thought about putting my hard hat on. :D
With all the nuts falling and the squirrels dropping stuff on me I tend to wear my hardhat in the woods this time of year.
This was dumb and against my better judgement. With temperatures approaching 100 degrees, I set up the mill at a local fall festival Friday afternoon. My first shirt was soaked in 15 minutes. I sat in the truck under the AC and drank a quart of power aid to cool off. And just like that, a dome of clouds moved overhead, a breeze started and the temperature dropped 10 degrees.
God is good and He looks out for us.
Now my turn. Was out to buddies woodlot / build site on Sunday afternoon. Was parked on the road / driveway by the first build site and trimming some stumps down a little in an area so I could back in off the road. There was one stump off to one side left so figured I'd get it after backing the truck in past it. Caught it with the right front wheel as I swung around and it momentarily stopped the truck before jumping over it, so continued back a few more feet and heard something under the truck, probably some brush. The tail gate was down and I had set my little Craftsman (Poulan) 40cc saw on it up against stuff in the box. Got out and walked around to the back and several things from the box were out on the tail gate, so I put things back and then realized my saw was nowhere to be seen, then it struck me. I crouched down and looked under the truck and there was my saw way up under the cab just under the left side. DANG! So I walk up and pull it out and it's not looking too good, the chain brake is tweaked some and the forward handle is also a little tweaked out of shape and position. Now for the bar, it was not looking too good at all. It was really bent out of shape, to the left and also upwards a bit. Well after fiddling with it for a few moments, I put it aside and grabbed my old Husky 61 with a fresh sharpening and raker set and used it for the rest of the afternoon. Now that's a saw that performs well! It's the one with the aluminum chain brake handle, yup, one of the older ones.
On Monday afternoon, at home, I figured I'd go out and see what I could do with my poor little saw. Fixed up one of the anti-vibe mounting springs for the forward handle and it's not looking too bad now. OK, grab the poor looking bar, which also has the rack and pinion slack adjustment built in, and see what I can do about straightening it. Wasn't easy, but after an hour or so, I had a curved and bent piece of junk looking like a bar again, was mainly bent next to the mounting end, but also a curve in the middle of it the opposite way. Put it back on the saw and had to work on the chain brake mechanism to get it operational again. After that, I sharpened the chain, wasn't too dull, and then filed the rakers as they're needing to be done. Fired up the saw and ran it for a minute or two and you'd never know it had been a wreck, no replaced parts and it ran good. Should've gotten a few pics, but I didn't.
Oh, that stump I ran over got trimmed down with the Husky. Wasn't a big stump either.
I hate when that happens. Nice job saving it.
I agree with FFOTS, I hate when that happens, but I LOVE when I can pull it out of the whole in a short evening without spending money. A dumb move tha resulted in a WIN, of sorts. Good on ya!
Just in case anyone needs to know they don't build the jacks on log splitters like they used to. Mine failed miserably when I backed over the splitter the other day with the Lull... >:( Never even felt it, happened to get off of the machine and bummer - there is my log splitter lying on it's side. Luckily nothing else was broken so all I need to do is get a new jack.
Well that was sorta lucky, last time I did something like that the tire truck came to visit my tractor. It got too close to the little flipper lever on a coupler on an old trailer sitting in the tall grass I was mowing. Straight through the bottom of the sidewall it went...barely bent the lever :-\, missed my turn just that much.
Well, I was in a hurry this morning to do a small job that took 2 hours to do. We had somewhere to be and I needed to be done at 10. As you know, rushing leads to doing something dumb. I hit a log support. It threw some pretty sparks. My customer thought I had hit metal in his log. He was happy when I told him what had happened. What sucks is that our plans have changed and I have all kinds of time.
Quote from: RAYAR on October 01, 2019, 01:58:34 AM
Now my turn. Was out to buddies woodlot / build site on Sunday afternoon. Was parked on the road / driveway by the first build site and trimming some stumps down a little in an area so I could back in off the road. There was one stump off to one side left so figured I'd get it after backing the truck in past it. Caught it with the right front wheel as I swung around and it momentarily stopped the truck before jumping over it, so continued back a few more feet and heard something under the truck, probably some brush. The tail gate was down and I had set my little Craftsman (Poulan) 40cc saw on it up against stuff in the box. Got out and walked around to the back and several things from the box were out on the tail gate, so I put things back and then realized my saw was nowhere to be seen, then it struck me. I crouched down and looked under the truck and there was my saw way up under the cab just under the left side. DANG! So I walk up and pull it out and it's not looking too good, the chain brake is tweaked some and the forward handle is also a little tweaked out of shape and position. Now for the bar, it was not looking too good at all. It was really bent out of shape, to the left and also upwards a bit. Well after fiddling with it for a few moments, I put it aside and grabbed my old Husky 61 with a fresh sharpening and raker set and used it for the rest of the afternoon. Now that's a saw that performs well! It's the one with the aluminum chain brake handle, yup, one of the older ones.
On Monday afternoon, at home, I figured I'd go out and see what I could do with my poor little saw. Fixed up one of the anti-vibe mounting springs for the forward handle and it's not looking too bad now. OK, grab the poor looking bar, which also has the rack and pinion slack adjustment built in, and see what I can do about straightening it. Wasn't easy, but after an hour or so, I had a curved and bent piece of junk looking like a bar again, was mainly bent next to the mounting end, but also a curve in the middle of it the opposite way. Put it back on the saw and had to work on the chain brake mechanism to get it operational again. After that, I sharpened the chain, wasn't too dull, and then filed the rakers as they're needing to be done. Fired up the saw and ran it for a minute or two and you'd never know it had been a wreck, no replaced parts and it ran good. Should've gotten a few pics, but I didn't.
Oh, that stump I ran over got trimmed down with the Husky. Wasn't a big stump either.
Used my saw today that I backed over last week. You'd never know it had been, worked great and for a 40cc consumer saw, it rocked! Of course knowing a thing or two about filing chains and having the proper equipment to do so helps. I used to make a living working in the woods many years ago.
My best repeat customer asked me to help move out of his old house, and into his new house. While cleaning out his old garage, he told me he had bundles of extra shingles he saved from when he redid the roof, that if I wanted them, I could have free. Sure I'll take them, why not! So I flipped down the tailgate on my pickup and opened the back window on my topper, and started to back up into the garage to load them. SMASH! Folded my topper back window almost in half, shattering the glass, pushing against the top of the garage door opening. Lesson learned, always check your clearance, Clarence. Funniest part of the story, it didn't even leave a scratch on the old garage, which is slated for demolition. :D
OUCH! That is an expensive mistake.
Man, I can't tell you how close I came to that a number of times. I caught myself every time and got lucky. Sorry you got crammed.
Not terribly bad, I see entire used toppers for $100 (or free) on CL all the time. I told my customer (a car collector) to find me the soft back window out of an old convertible, then it won't happen again. :D
Whoops! Yeah, things happen.
I done something kind of dumb yesterday,my dog thought it was real dumb. I was sanding with a belt sander and had the trigger lock down sanding away and the electric went out. I rolled my chair up by the table and he jumped in my lap and we was both taking a nap. Well the electric came on and before we could get our eyes open we had a running belt sander in the chair with us. He's still not talking to me :D.
Maybe he will when the hair on his butt grows back. :D
I bet the look on your and the dogs face was priceless. :D
Sorry had to laugh at that one just from the vision of it happening. Glad no animals were injured in the making of this opps. It can be a bad thing if folks had stoves or ovens on when similar occurs and they don't turn them off.
I guess it's time for a magnetic switch for your sander.
:D :D I'm sorry, that is just too funny. Bet you release the lock every time you put it down now.
Thankfully it wasn't a big fire but it was exciting for about a minute!
I was fabricating some parts for a project this afternoon and was using the bench grinder to clean up some rough edges on some parts. I didn't notice the wad of steel wool on the bench behind the grinder where the sparks go out the chute until the bright glow caught my eye. Needless to say the steel wool caught fire on the bench. Fortunately my welding gloves were on the temporary work bench behind me. I quickly slipped them on, picked up the steel wool, dropped it on the concrete floor and stomped it out. The bench nor any other stuff caught fire. Feeling thankful it wasn't worse and feeling a bit humble tonight.
I have no idea where the steel wool came from, I keep it in an entirely different building. But The Doc and my adult children use the shop on occaision. That's not an excuse but a possible reason the steel wool got there.
I can't tell you how many times I set my shop on fire. Good news is it usually does not spread.
Geez everybody must be on good behavior as far back as I had to go find this.
So yesterday I had a gorgeous afternoon milled an elm log off of the firewood pile that I had second thoughts about burning, it had laid in a pile for 2 or 3 years came from my grove behind the house. It was very pretty inside....minus the nail not a single mineral stain to give It away , didn't even cross my mind to check it. Go figure...
one blade...
New blade on make three cuts, it's a thick live edge, last cut don't have the stopper down the blocks me from sawing my clamp.....yeah just barely dinked it. Finished the cut with a thrashed blade. New blade number two ....last thing I did was cut a dry ash log into stickers kinda crooked about 10 inches. Kinda crummy wavy cuts on some of passes.... just thought oh well, a dud , dull,not a good band I'll finish these stickers and put it up. Cleaned up, pushed the saw in the shed, reached down to detension my blade......
Ever notice that a blade cuts better under tension. ::)
:D :D :D
Keep your blades tight and your eye on the ball ;D.
:D :D
Laughing with you, not at you.
There's always something.
I can't even throttle up without tension on the blade or I'm sure I would have done that. That still leaves me plenty of things to overlook though.
I think it's remarkable that you sawed at all with out tension. So that's kind of an achievement. :D
Not sure how it even stayed put. I had just turned the handle enough to check if it tracked ok, and put the blade guards on....Then I must've went and grabbed the log off the pile and went merrily sawing away.. It was three full turns short of tight. 8) Glad the good Lord watches out for me, that's a clatter bang noise no one wants to hear.
My blade tension handles are painted bright pink for that exact reason. More than once it has saved me.
@Southside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) at least your tension handle matches your shoes! :) :) :)
Been hiding this😕. Few months ago we got a lemon beagle pup, goes everywhere with me. Put her in the truck placing the retractable leash between the seat and console allowing a very short leash. She sits on the console watching where we go. Truck is new with 2025 miles, we're headed to camp. At 1/3 mile from the house she jumps to passenger seat and to the floor, her leash isn't long enough to be on the floor. I reach over to pull her up and up she comes but when I look up there is the utility pole in front of me, quick turn to the left, right hand mirror explodes, bang left hand rear door, cab corner and box side implode. Dog is fine, I'm fine but my truck, well I took it to the truck doctor yesterday for $6000 plus in repairs.
Ouch !! No dog is ever free, just some cost more in different ways.
At least the dog is okay. We must keep our priorities straight. Sorry about the other boo boos. :(
At least you kept all 4 wheels on the ground!
you know, had you screamed like the dukes of Hazard, everything would have been fine! move_it :D :D :D
Quote from: doc henderson on November 19, 2019, 01:47:42 AM
@Southside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) at least your tension handle matches your shoes! :) :) :)
I am not in Kansas anymore Doc.... :D
Oh no, did you click them together? :o If you wind up in Ks, do not say I did not warn you. I think you have to twirl a little as well. if you wind up near here, I will come and pick you up. :) If your purse matches you shoes and tension handle, you may have to ride in the back of the truck! :D
...and I documented it. I am moving the mill and was making good time so I pushed it a bit much. I got the mill head up on the trailer and moved 2 track sets. Then I went back down wthout the trailer (which was still loaded, unloading comes later when the track is reset) and tried to get the rest on the Mule alone. The porblems was the 2 6x6x12' beams, they are just too long, but I figured out a way, then I put 2 more track sections crosswise on the bed and 2 6x6x8' on top of them. I was pretty pleased with the way I rigged those 12 footers. I thought about tying the track and short timbers on, but they seemed secure. It was a load.
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Anyhow things were going pretty good until I was almost at the top of the hill and that's when it all broke loose. Gas cans, chainsaws, timbers, tools, tracks, all gone to heck. But those 12 footers were still where I put them. :D
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It was a heck of a mess in the middle of the hill to untangle, but I got most of it straight and came back for the rest in a second load. Next time I take 2 minutes and throw another strap on.
Dang @crowhill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14684) sorry bout the truck, but at least the pup was unharmed.
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) you sure do put that mule to work. Go on easy on her now and then will ya.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on November 23, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) you sure do put that mule to work. Go on easy on her now and then will ya.
Actually, that wasn't a real heavy load, just awkward. Earlier in the day I had pulled my road trailer (just a 5x10) up with the mill head, 2 sections of track, some timbers and other stuff, that load barely made it just from the weight. More on that in my thread.
BUT, not to worry, now that the mill is up the hill and behind my shop, her life gets a lot easier. SHe will skid logs to the mill, get me around, but I won't have to run everything UP and DOWN that skid road. So it will be mostly skidding work. I only take hitches of 3 logs or less. So yeah, she does get a break.
I figured even though I don't have a mill yet, my dumb thing does have something to do with cutting. When I was home on leave in October, my fields had gone well beyond the capacity of my finish mower to cut. I was planning to get a brush mower next year anyway, so I went ahead and got one so I could do the mowing and my dad didn't have to do it. Unknown to me, my neighbor had removed the grates off the riser for the dam and put them on my boat ramp over the summer. At some point, an old man who I allow to use the boat ramp occasionally to fish moved the grates into the grass on either side of the ramp. All this happened over the summer, so I was not around to see it because I am stationed in Hawaii. Anyway, I found the grates with my brand new brush mower. Here is the after and before pics of the grates (neighbor sent a picture of where the grates were last time he saw them - not sure why he felt the need to put them on my property instead of his own):
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I didn't see them until it was too late because the grass was 4 feet tall. This is the result:
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The mower seems to be ok other than the blades are beat up. Not to bad considering the grates were made of 1/4 inch steel frame and rebar. I don't know if that counts as I did something dumb today as much as somebody else did something dumb and I get to pay for it. About $150 for new blades.
I have a 5' brusher as well and like bandmill blades they are great metal detectors and any other hidden gems.
you should have shear pins in the bush hog. Did they shear? If not I would get some grade 2 bolts and put them in. Bolts are cheaper than gearboxes.
Mine has a shear bolt. Took it out many times.
It came with a slip clutch drive shaft, so I think the gear box is ok. I didn't see any indication that the gear box shifted in it's mounts, and no unusual vibration following the event, so I think the slip clutch did it's job. I think I would prefer the shear bolt though. The slip clutch will protect the drive system, but allows the blades to keep turning until I am smart enough to shut down the PTO. A shear bolt would completely sever the connection without my input.
With the slip clutch you will want to make sure it hasn't seized up over winter or long periods of non use. They can seize,especcially in moist weather and not provide any protection. I had a 10 footer (twin) at work and had to back the tension springs off and make sure it was functioning properly and re-tension. Easy to do.
Its fairly spectacular when you are trying your latest 5 ft craigslist haul for mowing weeds up at the cabin, and find out the hard way that the shear joint is rusted solid where it's supposed to slip when the shear bolt let's go. Yeah I doubled the price of the bargain.....
Yup, I found an antique intake manifold in the weeds, they did not spare the iron in castings back then.
Unfortunately, the slip clutch didn't have time to seize up. The mower was a day old when I found the neighbor's garbage in my field.
you get any moisture at all on those clutches and they will seize. You are much better off with shear bolts unless your test it all the time.
I did a lot of custom field and pasture mowing with a 6' brush hog and also went through many sets of blades, mostly just from rock. But the worst thing I found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast! Took about two hours to cut it out. That same farm had several test holes dug that were about 4'x4'x6' deep looking for gravel, they had years of dead hay and brush over them. Surprise!
Old Greenhorn, seems that many times when I do something similar, I have thought that this might not be a good idea or I should take a few more minutes to do whatever. However, many times I opt for the in a hurry or 'what could go wrong' thought and head out. Most times it goes ok, but then there are times it is a failure. Glad not injuries or damage occurred.
jeepcj779 I don't think I have it steel. I do mow rock, stumps 'someone' left too high, and once an abandoned plastic pipe (the barbwire type scenario). I too have a slip clutch that every spring I loosen the bolts and slip it to break loose the rust. I have not looked at the blade lately. Probably need to do that to avoid posting a future issue here. ::)
When I worked for the DOT of Mississippi once I tried a drive line with a shear bolt. The big bushwacker mowers (15 footers) that we used would litteraly shear the shear bolt on start up at times. I went back to the slip clutch as soon as I could. Run a slip on the little 5 that I have behind my 2600 ford now. To each his own I guess. Banjo
If I pop the clutch on my JD 2150 hooked to the 5' bushhog, it is time to replace the shear bolt :). At least I have the comfort of knowing that the gearbox is safe from all this stuff that y'all on here are mowing :D.
My dumb move of the day was to move my climbing deer stand to a different tree on the back corner of my property in preparation for Rifle season that starts tomorrow. I bow hunt out of a couple of permanent shooting houses with feeders and such but usually the first day of rifle season I hunt out of a climbing stand overlooking a deep draw, a ridge and bench that is a common crossing. Being there also discourages poachers from ignoring the posted signs and coming on my property. Anyway I changed trees and adjusted the back clamps on the stand and climber/seat because the new tree was smaller. To test it I climbed about 20' to check out the view and shooting conditions. As I climbed the tree got smaller so I decided to adjust the bolt to a new hole to tighten the climber/seat. All went well till I dropped the wingnut. I keep a spare in my fanny pack but it was about 30' away at the old tree (with my safety strap). I moved the remaining wingnut to the the shorter bolt and carefully inched down 8-10 inches at a time. Fortunately putting weight on the climber/seat put pressure on the bolt and held/locked the longer bolt in place but it was pretty nerve wracking for this fat old man to be up there that high. I got down safely but will be sure to put a spare bolt and nut back in the stand in an unused hole so it will always be there if needed.
Jeepcj, that must have made a terrible racket. Glad it wasn't worse.
Well, my dumb move of the week involved my Sawstop tablesaw. I was using my dado blade set and mitre gauge. Well, with the dado set installed there wasn't clearance and the blades hit the miter gauge. Before I knew what was going on there was a bang and a jump of the saw. It's good to know the sawstop works as it should, but that dumb move cost me $199 for a new dado set and cartridge for the saw. I will be more careful next time.
QuoteI found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast!
I have also heard that "finding" an extension cord buried in the snow with a snowblower will cause similar results. :-X
Banjo, you are probably correct. I have to think the manufacturer included a drive shaft with a slip clutch instead of a shear bolt for a reason. It does require quite a bit of torque to get it moving, so I'll have to consider carefully before I decide to switch the drive shaft I have for one with a shear bolt.
Quote from: Resonator on November 24, 2019, 09:20:26 PM
QuoteI found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast!
I have also heard that "finding" an extension cord buried in the snow with a snowblower will cause similar results. :-X
:D :D I worked in lawn and garden shops, lost count of the number of extension cords gobbled up by snowblowers. Yes sir it is a brand new cord but I cannot cover it under warranty. I sure hated cutting barbed wire out of them.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on November 24, 2019, 08:49:03 PM
Well, my dumb move of the week involved my Sawstop tablesaw. I was using my dado blade set and mitre gauge. Well, with the dado set installed there wasn't clearance and the blades hit the miter gauge. Before I knew what was going on there was a bang and a jump of the saw. It's good to know the sawstop works as it should, but that dumb move cost me $199 for a new dado set and cartridge for the saw. I will be more careful next time.
During one of the AWI shows I was working my booth was directly across from Sawstop. I talked to them extensively. He told me that most of the time the blade is salvageable. Did you bend the blades? I would think that you can pry the aluminum block off of it and continue to use it.
I could be wrong, but be nice to see what happened to the blade set.
Howard,
Some of us are getting too old to be climbing trees :).
There were numerous carbide teeth broken off of the blades, which may be able to be replaced, but probably not really worth the trouble. Also, I'm afraid at least one of the chipper blades is bent. I can post some pics in a few days when I get home from work.
Quote from: crowhill link=topic=105351.msg1693873#;Ddate=1574609365But the worst thing I found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast!
I had a similar problem on the axle of a M68 jeep when I was in the army after a night of simulated attacks during an exercise. It sucks when everyone else is sleeping while you lay on the ground cutting (what seemed like a mile of) barbed wire off your rear axle 6 inches at a time. Lesson learned!! ;D
I did the same thing with my bush hog only it was high tensile electric fence wire, can't cut it with regular wire cutters or linemen players very easily ..... cutting torch to the rescue.
It doesn't take long to wrap about a half mile of electric fence wire around a hay tedder. It takes much longer to cut it out.🙄
Quote from: jeepcj779 on November 24, 2019, 10:07:11 PM
Banjo, you are probably correct. I have to think the manufacturer included a drive shaft with a slip clutch instead of a shear bolt for a reason. It does require quite a bit of torque to get it moving, so I'll have to consider carefully before I decide to switch the drive shaft I have for one with a shear bolt.
The slip clutch is a great driveline/gearbox protector. No need to change it at all, just make sure it is operating as it should. Don't overtension it.
A new entry:
I can't say who, but somebody in my household that was not me saw one of my work jackets hanging on the back of my chair and thought it looked like it needed washing, which was nice. They threw it in the washer, then dryer.
When I inquired as to the location of said jacket, the good Samaritan handed me a freshly laundered jacket and I thanked her for doing that for me. Then I realized the pockets felt kind of full. Wow, I said, "you even put all my stuff back in the right pockets, that's amazing". She said 'pockets?' Turns out not only was the jacket cleaned but so were my gloves, pencils, a rag, and my moisture meter. So I just ordered another cheap moisture meter last night. Try as I might I can't get this one working again. Too many corroded little electronical buggy things on the PC board to make any sense out of it. Oh well...... ;D :D :-[
prob. never work again, but take out the batts open it up, and plunk it into a bowl of rice. and if you wife makes stir fry, watch out for the probes! that is funny, :)
Quote from: doc henderson on November 26, 2019, 12:37:28 PM
prob. never work again, but take out the batts open it up, and plunk it into a bowl of rice. and if you wife makes stir fry, watch out for the probes! that is funny, :)
Did all that and more Doc, no go. It's gone. The backlight works, but nothing else. The detergent really did a number on those small surface mount components and IC's on the board. Just all fuzzy green stuff. It's gone.
I had a favorite wool watch cap that fit just right, which is a real pain to find when your noggin is shaped like mine. One day I went to put that on and "what the heck?" It was about half the size it used to be, but all nice and clean and dry.....early on in the marriage, so we had a discussion about wool outer garments and proactively about my cast iron cook skillets and dutch ovens in order to avoid any other incidents... ::)
Bet it overdosed in the high-moisture environment, then it pegged out again in the dryer by changing directions too fast! ;D
But, it was a way to get a new moisture meter without an argument! :)
K-guy, commo wire is pretty tough stuff, too. Also it comes on pretty long reels.................
Of course, I would be the next one who played "el Estupido"...............
What do you tell your kid when you give him or her a knife to cut something? "Now don't cut towards yourself".
cue the warning bells. Red lights blinking. What could go wrong? And I put a new blade in the folding sheetrock knife last night.
stupid stupid STUPID STUPID
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Here we are 5 stitches later. And I got to see the inside of the new Pownal clinic set up by Southwest Vermont Medical Center and met some really nice, professional people who took great care of me.
At least it's your left hand. That's the only good news I see here. Probably stung like a bugger.
That's a bummer Oliver. Now it looks like you are only down to three. (sorry, I couldn't resist)
At least it was a sharp knife, dull would have been much more painful.
Heal up quick.
did it last week. we had the power damaged to the shop 2 years ago with an ice storm and a neighbors tree branch that fell on overhead wires. bent the mast, ogled the rubber seal, had to retention the wires to get me by. the stars aligned and a friend had 50 feet of 3 inch conduit, I had time off, so my son and I began placing the conduit. 130 feet pole to meter can. got a 1/4 inch rope to pull the wires. stretched it out to paint a line. My son rolled it up and thought he put it in the shop. dug and placed the pipe. blew the fishing line and cotton ball through the pipe to pull the rope. where was the rope? my son thought he put it in the shop, but where? decided it must be under the dirt, so with the back hoe, raked some dirt around thinking I would snag it. needed a little dirt on the pipe anyway. may place a 1 inch conduit 18 inches above the power line for cable. next day. looked in the shop again. put a bucket on and moved most of the remaining dirt into piles. "Wil where did you put the rope?". " I do not remember". poor guy. so after moving nearly all the dirt, I told him after class the next day to stop by Lowes and pick up another 36 dollar 150 foot bundle of rope. he went inside. the last place I saw it was on a pallet of old fence posts. was parking the skid steer and as I crossed the trench, picked up one more scoop of dirt at the very end by the pallet, there it was.
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he did coil it up nice. now have underground 4-0 ice proof electric service to the shop.
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First thing I ever put sutures was my veterinarian fathers thumb when he had a little accident involving scalpel and a calf, I think I was 12.
I forgot my log tongs and lifting straps were in the loader bucket the other day when I went to get a scoop of asphalt grindings, some how while the tractor was warming up I remembered to check the bucket..,
Never leave bright orange or hot pink livestock marking paint stick in your coveralls pocket....There's a reason there are two sets of Laundry equipment in the house,,,, ::)
Orange paint sticks in the dryer do not make momma happy!.....so I have heard . Lol
:D :D I'm sorry, that is just to funny.
It's very much like the song lyric about crayons melting in a Maytag dryer.
Yea - a pump bottle of Blue Kote left in a jacket pocket has the same spouse inciting effect..... ::)
It's been a while since I contributed to my own thread, so Monday I was milling red oak and tried to slide the logs against the stops by hand. I felt something pop in my wrist. I kept going, but could tell it wasn't right. Last night I went for an X-ray which turned out negative, which is good, but I definitely tore something. Doc said it will heal fine on it's own, but I've been useless the last two days. The normal bump on my wrist is a bit bigger than it's suppised to be.
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Just over 3 weeks ago I'm pretty sure tore my rotator cuff trying to get the top radiator hose back on my tractor/forklift water pump. I need to hew 14 timber faces, but I can't even think of swinging an axe. Never had this before and it's taking a real long time to heal. It's been improving very slowly. I think at least 3 more weeks if not more to be able to swing an axe. If I try too soon, I'll inflame it and regress the healing.
Brad, a rotator does not heal. There is also a bursa up there, a fluid filled cushioning/ lubricating sac that can get angry, bursitis. Water on the knee is another p.o'ed bursa. The inflammation and pain go down but if you've torn it don't be fooled, there is a tear that only grows with abuse. The surgeon told me "Every morning you guys make a new deal with your bodies and tear another fiber" very true. Avoid the shot, let it calm down and get on you tube for some strengthening exercises to kick the inevitable down the road. If you tear one of the 4 rotator tendons out the arm usually goes down and is difficult to lift without help from the other arm but your body instinctively knows how to cheat, mine didn't go down till I tore the second tendon out, 3 is still stability in engineering terms after all. By then it had been 10 years, that first tendon was retracted and atrophied to the size of my thumb, don't fool around.
@Brad_bb (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191) ...Go see your GP and get some good NSAIDs (Non Steroidal AntiInflamitory Drug) Maybe just motrin. He will tell pretty quickly if you can get by with ice, rest, and or PT or if you just need to get an MRI and go see the orthopedist, don't wait too long.
One of my classic I did something dumb moves, was trying to tackle a goat. This was two years ago. I used poor form and tried to arm tackle her by just sticking my arm out while she was trying hard to escape.... As the lightening bolt shot up my bicep I could hear my old football coach yelling move your feet, MOVE YOUR FEET!
I got an awesome scar out of the reattachtment surgery but I had witnesses to the event (my two younger sons) So I get corrected on how big this goat was if they are around and the story comes up, and yeah she wasn't very big. .....but she's expensive.
I have eaten some mighty fine goat dishes. food6
I think if I tried to take one of my goats by the horns right now, I would tear my ligament the rest of the way.
I've been thrown to the ground by a lamb :D, when that 4 wheel drive takes off in an unexpected direction all bets are off!
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) and @Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) you should both be ashamed of yourselves, telling stories about a FF member when the Kid can't even defend his own hide. :D That's just down right rumeniscent of y'all. :D
Quote from: Don P on December 12, 2019, 06:32:56 PM
I've been thrown to the ground by a lamb :D, when that 4 wheel drive takes off in an unexpected direction all bets are off!
Gave up being in the PMBA eh? (Professional Mutton Bustin Association) :D
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) ....Funny you mention mutton busting, I came to this area 23 years ago and after a couple years I got to know some folks, so I took in the county fair rodeo next county south of here. Lots of clients there, I remember the mutton busting in particular watching, a young man hang on for dear life. He might of been all of six... Well tomorrow I'm working his father in laws cows, his daughter is about 1 now, he is usually there helping on these jobs, it sorta makes one feel a little bit old.
It seems most animals that are considered a food source have tried to run me over at least once .... Scariest one was a camel. :o Comes with the territory I guess.
Oh yeah and I did something dumb earlier I had a few minutes of day left and a log qued up on the mill, so I quick got a rough cant squared up and promptly knocked my band off by not raising the head, before i backed up. You know, hurrying.... yep heard that wonderful noise.. Wasted the rest of my visible light changing the blade, finished with the headlamp out of the truck. Knocked three teeth out of the blade to boot. 8)
Yea - I did the whole speed band removal thing earlier this week, it's an even dumber move when you have a drag back system, cleared the band from the cut, but didn't get far enough out of the cut for the drag back fingers to engage, raised up and back fast - 55 HP of bang and sparks resulted.... >:(
Quote from: Nebraska on December 12, 2019, 08:50:51 PM
It seems most animals that are considered a food source have tried to run me over at least once .... Scariest one was a camel. :o
Tastes like chicken ???
Quote from: Don P on December 12, 2019, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Nebraska on December 12, 2019, 08:50:51 PM
It seems most animals that are considered a food source have tried to run me over at least once .... Scariest one was a camel. :o
Tastes like chicken ???
Ya know - thinking about it I have been chased by a chicken, he chose Poorly.... :D
We had this one rooster. I'd open the coop in the morning and fairly often he'd come off the perch at head level spurs first. There were few things more satisfying in that moment than slamming the door and hearing him whump and slide to the floor :D.
My wife wont let me have chickens. She remembers being chased by them as a kid
When you have an aggressive rooster, you just have to be a bigger rooster!
Quote from: Southside on December 12, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
but didn't get far enough out of the cut for the drag back fingers to engage, raised up and back fast - 55 HP of bang and sparks resulted.... >:(
That sawhead gigs back in reverse at the speed of light.
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 13, 2019, 05:41:40 AM
When you have an aggressive rooster, you just have to be a bigger rooster!
or a 410 works well also! sorry @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)
Wife has banned chickens and pigs at our place at least in the live form. Packaged they are quite welcome. She spent too much time with them growing up as well. Every once in a while I run I into an aggressive rooster on a place, no sure why the stupid ones seem to stay around of course too many people keep stupid cows.
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) I bet that bang is much more impressive indeed. It makes mad I still had some goody left in that blade.
Quote from: Southside on December 12, 2019, 07:44:17 PM@Nebraska and @Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) you should both be ashamed of yourselves, telling stories about a FF member when the Kid can't even defend his own hide. That's just down right rumeniscent of y'all.
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)
You shouldn't be one to talk with your habit of sacrificing chickens to the sawmill gods!!! ;D:D
Quote from: doc henderson on December 13, 2019, 07:34:09 AM
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 13, 2019, 05:41:40 AM
When you have an aggressive rooster, you just have to be a bigger rooster!
or a 410 works well also! sorry @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)
We've had chickens for many years. When I get a rooster that thinks he's boss, I just snatch him up and carry him upside down by his legs for a few minutes. Two or three times is all it takes and he knows who the big rooster actually is..... :D
The camel I ate always tasted more like stringy beef than chicken to me. A half liter of cold camel's milk and a Cadbury Hazelnut chocolate bar was a tasty snack however.
My wife has several screws in her shoulder from our old billy goat who became suddenly deceased shortly after he dislocated her should. She and our former Norwegian exchange student finally got him wrestled to the ground and Ruth tied him to a sapling with her belt. My son came home, tied a hay string to his collar and led him back to the barn. If he'd have stayed in he'd have just found a new home the next auction day. He kept breaking out and my wife was afraid he'd hurt someone else and issued the death warrant for him.
I'm with @Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) on tasty goat however. My old mentor used to raise them and they were good eating, especially BBQ'd.
when we had a dog kill a chicken, it gets duck taped to the back of the dog for a few hours. our German Shepard would still stalk but would not touch.
That sounds kinda like the story my dad told about a dog his dad had that would chase deer. He put the dog and a deer hide in a barrel and rolled it down the hill that dropped down to the little salt river flats. The dog apparently thought the deer was kicking his butt and he never chased another deer.
When I was "growing up" back in the 50's there were no deer on our property, but there was a herd of wild goats. All different colors and when I say wild, I mean WILD. If any goat saw suspicious movement the only thing left would be their stink when they fled. You had to approach from downwind and hopefully find the herd by spotting a white one.
A very careful stalk was necessary to get close enough to pop a nanny with the .22 rifle. During those years that was our source of "wild" meat, and the .22 was the only rifle that we had.
About 15 years ago some undisciplined goats jumped out of a truck a couple of miles from here. The owner had just bought them and was hauling them in a truck with a stake bed enclosure. Only thing wrong with that was there was no top. Needless to say the goats jumped and ran.
After a week or so they took up with our cows. That wasn't a problem as long as the cows were at pasture but when the cows came to the barn to be fed during the winter it was a different story. The goats got in the barn, chewed through strings on hay bales, pooped indiscriminately and tore up the feed sacks.
My brother-in-law handled the barn operations and was at his wits end on what to do with the goats. He finally took me up on the offer to dispose of them after animal control and the animal rescue folks failed to capture them.
Little did I know how hard they were to hunt! They were subsequently processed and given to some neighbors for roasting.
When we first moved here to WV we bought 4 goats to clear the multiflora roses that had taken over before we bought the place. We had strung a haphazard electric fence thinking it would hold them. Wrong. They immediately escaped. About a month later a neighbor caught one and tied up at our place and she had a kid a few weeks later. About 6-7 months later a neighbor asked me if I was still missing goats and I told him yes - 3 of them. He said they were hanging out with his ponies at an old farm house about half a mile or so up the mountain. The road was impassable for vehicles up to it but we walked up and found 2 of our goats both with kids they had had over the winter. I met the owner of the place and he allowed me to use an old log shed as a trap so I set a falling door and figure 4 trigger and caught them and we gentled them down and later sold them. The one goat we never found was brown and I assume someone shot her for a deer. When building a fence to hold goats use the water test - if it will hold water it will hold a goat. if not it won't. Pretty near true.
I put up 4' field fence and two strands of barbed wire up to 6'. Amazingly they have not gotten out in the 5 years I have had them. They are troublemakers though. The other day I noticed my chickens were troubled by something. I looked into the pop door for the coop and saw hooves. My big fat goats had gotten into the coop thru a door that is about 10"x12". It seemed impossible, but they were in there. Ate all the chicken food.
You can BBQ a possum too, but I don't. A man has to make choices :).
Quote from: WDH on December 13, 2019, 09:29:15 PM
You can BBQ a possum too, but I don't. A man has to make choices :).
Slow cooker, with a heap of curry.
We have a native bird called a Pukeko (swamp hen). Instructions for cooking one is to put it in a pot with am axe head to weight it down. When the axehead is tender, throw away the pukeko and eat the axe. :D
Our Opossums are the Aussie variety, and actually edible in pinch. Never been that hungry though.
It seems like I do dumb stuff with some regularity. For a very long time I have been compelled by some overblown sense of pride to keep the dumb stuff I do to myself.
So this thread is "therapetic" (Barney called it that).
Latest dumb thing - after doing some routine maintenance under the hood of my Ram 3500, I was closing the hood. So I reached up and pulled the hood latch loop by inserting two fingers in the loop. The hood came down faster than I expected. I did get my fingers clear of the latch but didn't get my hand out of the hood. Yep the hood closed and latched on my right hand. It took a couple of minutes to free myself. All I cloud think about was Red Forman from That 70's Show.....
SawyerTed,
Don't know why but that story reminded me a one dad would tell about a gentleman. The incident happened when dad was a kid, late 20's. A man was working in his field with horse and wagon and was jumping out of the wagon to the ground. This is something routine as we may jump from the back of a truck. As he did he grabbed the side of the wagon with his hand and jumped over the side rail. When he did this the tip of a finger went into a knot hole. So this left the man standing on the ground with the end of his finger protruding out of the knot hole and unable to jump back up into the wagon. Being afraid the horse would move off and not having anyone around to help him he resorted to using his pocket knife to remove the end of his finger so he could get his hand free. Don't know if it was true or not but he told it several times.
Glad your truck did not run off!
great lesson, hopefully not true! :D
That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while! :D
Not the man cutting his finger off - ouch! I'm glad it wasn't a horse and wagon too!
When my son was 3 or 4 he was my right hand man (still is he's 29). I was spreading fertilizer on our pastures. There was a pallet of 50 pound bags in the bed of my pick up truck. My son was "helping" load the spreader from the back of the truck. My wife was also around helping watch the kids by the way. My son saw me jump out of the truck to get on the tractor. So after I drove off he thought he would jump like dad did. I turned around and saw him dangling from the corner of the tailgate from the seat of his pants. He decided it was cool before I got back to free him. When I got over to him he yelled, "Look Dad! I'm Superman!" :D :D :D
I felt like Dumb and Dumber (where one character put his tongue on a frozen metal pole) standing there in front of my truck with my hand stuck in the hood.
the trick is learning the lesson without permanent injury or death. sometimes just dumb luck. smiley_swinging_board smiley_carpenter_hit_thumb :snowball1: :snowfight1: hurt_smiley
This was a few weeks ago.
I was putting in a drainage ditch to get water to flow under my driveway instead of over it. Some years the ice has been over a foot deep!
The 100 amp service to my garage goes across where I needed the drain. Not really a problem because I knew where the wire was because I put it there. 18 years ago. I dug my 36" deep ditch until I got to where the wire was (supposed to be) then I slowed way down and dug about an inch at a time with the backhoe. I figured that was safe because I had put tracer tape over the wire. Find the tracer tape, do a little hand digging then go back to digging with the backhoe at full speed.
Well, I dug 8 feet or so to full depth and didn't find the wire. Maybe it's deeper than I remembered? Just to be safe I dug another 8 feet at a painfully slow pace looking for the wire. It's not there. It must be deeper than I remembered. Good, I gotta get this ditch done before I lose daylight so of I go at full speed.
You guessed it, the wire was at the depth I thought, just about 15 feet from where I was sure it was.
Luckily I have a friend at the local professional electric supply house. He fixed me up with what I needed to fix my mistake. Took me about 2.5 hours in 15 degree weather after work the following night to get the service back to my garage.
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Quote from: SawyerTed on December 14, 2019, 12:36:42 PMI felt like Dumb and Dumber (where one character put his tongue on a frozen metal pole)
Fond memories! When I was about 9 or 10 (youngest of 7 kids in 9 years), my oldest brother was about 16 or 17? He was always doing all sorts of experiments.
He screwed together some half inch steel pipe with a little brass valve on one end. Before he put a cap on the other end, he put some dry ice in it. Not sure what he was trying to do - maybe make a co2 fire extinguisher? Anyhow, it got really frosted up. So he touched his tongue to it. Yep, froze the tip right to it! ::) I remember my mom pouring warm water over his tongue while leaning over the kitchen sink. He was tugging pretty hard and I think he lost a few taste buds in that one. :D
Another one was (with the help of my dad) filling dry cleaners bags with natural gas (stove gas) and sending the balloons aloft with streamers and such. Pretty neat. Got the bright idea to do one at night. Counter balance with a piece of coat hanger (plastic IIRC) on one end and a never-go-out birthday candle on the other. What could go wrong? ::) We set it free in the back yard and up it goes. Over our house into the front yard. Up a couple hundred feet. Way cool! Then it rolled over and was engulfed in a massive ball of flame! Came crashing down in the middle of the street, a puddle of burning plastic. Neighbors thought it was a UFO or something.
@firefighter (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=8493) otheside 20 or so years I built a pen I called "goat knox " 8 strands of hightensile fencing every other wire hot. Worked great til one day after a thunderstorm the goats were up in the yard helping themselves to lilac bushes, fruit trees, and whatever else they found irresistible. Lightening had burnt the yard light wire in two and blown the fuses out of their holder on the electric fencer. It looked impressive to me.... three years ago It was replaced with combination livestock panels with board stiffners between posts and a hot wire around the top. It hasn't been breached yet. As long as I remember to chain the gate that is. ::)
I let the goats out to eat today. I guess they weren't finding a lot with the new snow on the ground. So they kept going in the garage. One of them went under my truck and got stuck. I had to crawl under there and pull him out.
when we lived out in Fort Hays Ks, we had about 60 chickens, ducks and geese. the neighbors Labrador would carry them home and bury them live in the garden. I had an answering machine and would get the message that their dog brought them a duck and it was in the garage and I could just come and get it when I got home.
I would have told them to return it after all, they caused it to be taken! :-\
I did eventually tell them that, but I think they thought they "got out" and it was usually the same dog. told them they could just drive by and toss it into the yard, and they were happy to do that. is was a group of houses out in the country with about 50 families and everyone watched out for each other. if I burned a bunch of cedar limbs or something, 2 or 3 cars would drive by. we were on the back of the group and not seen by others easily. they were just making sure we did not have a fire and in need of help. :) and of course I worked a ton and usually got home after 9 pm.
I'm sure I've put the neighbor's cows back in the pasture a dozen times in the last few years. It's what neighbors do for each other here.
We have a neighbor who brings my dog home after the dog goes to visit. Of course my neighbor loves my dog so she brings the dog home after they ride to the store, visit her sister and have a sleepover. I usually get a call from my neighbor that my dog is visiting. Used to happen once or twice a month. Now not so often.
What did I do dumb today? I got into an online discussion with a troll.....duh.
Well I really qualified today. The holiday break started last night for me and after a late music gig last night I got out as early as I could this morning to start in the shop. First task, clean off the bench and remove a sheet of 5/8" plywood that is going to be a tool board, and cut about a foot off so that it won't interfere with a floor joist later. Cleared the bench and removed all the tapcons holding the sheet up. it stays in place. (?) So I get a shim bar and begin lifting it away from the wall. It is jammed between the sheet above it and the board below it. I work my way across the bottom, peeling it away very cautious that the whole thing could drop. I get the entire bottom edge out and just hanging. It is still not falling. Now I have a good grip on the bottom edge with both hands because I know the weight. Shake, shimmy, nothing. I relax my grip and remove my right hand followed by my left as I am thinking "what the ..... WHAM!! Down it came. About a 8" drop. I had not gotten my left hand fully out and there was no time to apply any grip. It crushed my index and middle finger. My index kind of exploded and the middle finger just took a direct hit. I don't ever recall feeling that kind of pain. No, I am not laughing yet. I got the glove off hoping all my fingers were still attached, and there was a fair amount of blood so I could not see much, but I could feel ........ A LOT. I headed across the yard to the house and asked the wife between gasps for some ice. I was fighting the urge to pass out and/or throw up. It took 20 minutes before I got control of my senses.
It's one of those things that is worse than it looks.
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I bandaged up the index finger so I could work but the middle finger did not burst so it is swollen tight. The index is getting better, but that middle one is very sensitive and when I touch something the wrong way it all comes back.
i followed the blood trail back to the shop (pretty on the frozen snow) and got the sheet down, cut it off,put it back up and rehung it. All good now.
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But man, this pain isn't really going away none too fast and I got really tired, so I came in to take a break. Started at 10 degrees this morning, not ready to run the mill yet, it's only up to 20 now. Maybe I'll just rest for a bit before I go back at it.
Man that was dumb.
OGH,
Sorry about the boo boo! Looks painful. Brings back memories of similar times. I have a bottle of excess pain pills left over my dentist gave me the last time he drilled a post in my jaw for a future implant that I had been thinking of throwing away but after looking at your digits there I think I may just keep them a little longer for contingencies like that.
Oooowwwiee wooowwwsser! I pinched off a hemorrhoid just thinking about that! Gosh I hope you feel better soon! I mashed two of my fingers working firewood in March. One is fine the other is still recovering.
OUUCH! I mighta uttered ugly comments if that had occurred here.
I feel your pain! I tried to stop a firewood row from collapsing and got my finger between a stationary block and the falling blocks. Lost my finger nail on that one. At this age it still amazes me that I have to try to catch these things but I'm learning.
even worse when your hands are cold. feel better soon! smiley_carpenter_hit_thumb
Old Greenhorn, the upside is that you weren't working outside when you did that.
If you mash your fingers like that when your hands are really cold, you don't really, really feel how bad it is....until you go inside, take off your mitts and feel the whole Dang stupid moment get replayed in slow'mo as your hand warms up.
Priceless!
Hey Doc, sounds like you've been there!
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Well, it WAS my favorite mug.
'nuff said.
sadly @Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307) yes, more than once. we all have to learn and occasionally need a "booster" lesson! some more than others. :D @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Andries, sorry about your mug. I hate when that happens. Be happy you weren't drinking from it at the time this happened. ;D
As for my own blunder, I am just glad that mu fingers came out of the glove with the rest of my hand. I just did a bandage change on the index finger and there was a 'bit' more of a hole/tear than I thought. It felt OK all day, so I didn't baby it but apparently it had been seeping the whole time. It's a bigger hole than I had thought. ;D Good thing I have had a lot of wound care practice, this is gonna take a while to close. OH, and I have been corrected, it was 3/4 ply, not 5/8.
From one tree frog to another, by the looks of that ring finger, this ain't your first rodeo :D
I'm about healed up from the metal roof edge a couple of weeks ago, the judges on the ground didn't give high marks on form even though I stuck the landing on the lower roof, something about deductions for screaming like a girl ::)
Quote from: Don P on December 21, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
From one tree frog to another, by the looks of that ring finger, this ain't your first rodeo :D
I'm about healed up from the metal roof edge a couple of weeks ago, the judges on the ground didn't give high marks on form even though I stuck the landing on the lower roof, something about deductions for screaming like a girl ::)
Nope, not my first rodeo and I am sure we will load him up into the gate again soon. ;D In retrospect, I am usually that guy that swallows a deep groan/grunt when I do something like this, but this time a let out a howl that kind of scared me. Most unusual indeed. :D
That middle finger is pretty much a stick this morning wish I had a leech to relieve the pressure.
There were no judges around but it happened so fast and was so severe that I headed to the house so the wife could make a call if needed. Probably could have put a stitch or two in the finger.
Last night we had the grandchildren over to decorate our little tree and the 5 year old comes up to me smiling as I was re-dressing that finger. He said "Look Grandpa, I used the adult scissors and I didn't cutted myself!" I said, "yes, you have to be very careful with scissors!". He said "yes, that's right, because if you are not careful you put tiny holes in your hand." To which I replied "that's right! kind of like this hole?" and I showed him the index finger. To my surprise he got his nose right up there and studied it closely. The he looked up at me and said " No Grandpa, I said TINY HOLES. that hole is too big to be from scissors!" :D I laughed so hard I nearly cried. He's gonna be a good one. :)
@Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307), being a Yeti, makes it worse. >:(
You're right, Dakota.
I'm back to using Big Bubba.
It's dented, but lives a charmed freaking life.
Fifty foot run-away Western Red Cedar logs roll off the forks and Big Bubba takes a hit. I find it under a pile of cedar bark. Not a scratch.
Forget Bubba on the trailer, drive to the city and its still sitting there on the deck.
Fill it with water, it's frozen solid in the morning and still smiling.
The Yeti died a quick and decisive death.
I could forget Bubba at the Pig Roast, and a dozen years later, some guy named @WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) would return it to me saying: 'Hey, your name is scratched on the bottom'.
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With the price of the YETI brand products, it seems you could get some kind of warranty or accident insurance with them! :'(
I'm proud of y'all for keeping my thread going for so long. I guess as long as we keep doing dumb things, it will continue to grow.
Andries, is that yeti sitting on top of the tire that ran over it?
Yep.
Oh I'm pretty sure this thread is safe for a long time. :D
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on December 23, 2019, 09:08:32 AM
I'm proud of y'all for keeping my thread going for so long. I guess as long as we keep doing dumb things, it will continue to grow.
As long as there are sawyers and loggers and builders I don't think this thread will die. You would be surprised at the number of things I chose NOT to post here. I think there is a chance I am not alone. ;D ;D There is 'dumb' and then there is 'embarrassingly stupid'. No, I don't think we need to start another thread for that, this one is just fine as is. :)
As long as there are human beings, this thread will live on!
I just happen to be extremely human too! :D :D
As we used to say in the industry side of the house "This topic is Evergreen". The reason it stays alive is all of us, sawyers, woodworkers, loggers, cooks, hunters/outdoorsmen, whatever can relate to this thread as we have all been there is some fashion - and will be there in the future if the truth be told. My biggest hope is when someone reads it they will think about it and maybe, just maybe, it will keep one reader from getting hurt. Have a safe and happy holiday season and keep them posts a'coming.
Note to self: Ted, don't put your toolbox on the roller conveyor that carries your slabs away from the sawmill.
It doesn't turn out well. ::)
Did you get a picture of the carnage?
A certain sense of pride, embarrassment, mortification and later humility prevented me from having the presence of mind to photograph the wrenches, sockets, pliers and screwdrivers scattered among the slabs.
It was bad. On a positive note, my metal detector finally was useful!
I'm glad to hear that the result was only a bruised ego, and that no stitches or emergency room visits were required.
Some accident reports are hard to write.
GAB
Have had some nice tiger maple slabs in the basement for about a year. Went down the bulkhead to take a look. Decided to bring one out to the shop . On the way out while carrying this big slab I banged my head on the low slung cast iron sewer pipe. Dropped me to my knees. But, to avoid damaging the live edge on the slab I was able to hang onto to it which ended up in it smashing my hands against the floor. Good thing had heavy gloves on. My head,neck, back, knees and hands still hurt.
Quote from: Rhodemont on January 07, 2020, 08:12:51 AM
Have had some nice tiger maple slabs in the basement for about a year. Went down the bulkhead to take a look. Decided to bring one out to the shop . On the way out while carrying this big slab I banged my head on the low slung cast iron sewer pipe. Dropped me to my knees. But, to avoid damaging the live edge on the slab I was able to hang onto to it which ended up in it smashing my hands against the floor. Good thing had heavy gloves on. My head,neck, back, knees and hands still hurt.
AH but you saved the slab! All the other stuff will heal. ::) ;D
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Broke the plastic fuel fitting off taking the tarp of the mill. Plastic and cold weather don't mix. Luckily it was pipe thread and I had a brass nipple that fit.
Good to keep a spare fitting around. The O ring will eventually let go as well.
Rich,
Been there, done that. Fortunately WM is quick to respond and an easy fix. As I remember we were able to stick the hose down in the tank and run the mill till the part got here a couple days later.
Been there, "done that" too Howard!
So today I was replacing the blown out ballast in the fluorescent light with 2 nice new led tubes. I was smart. I pulled the string and shut the light off. But then I was promptly dumb right after that and forgot the feed was still very much live. I did not pop the breaker but pretty sure something else popped. Like my pants :)
Then after that I was going under the sawmill frame to turn another light off. Well there is a clamp on it that has been holding the linear bearing to it. I managed to drag my nice bald head all the way down the clamp. Looks like grand canyon in my head. When I looked up after it was done there was a very large chunk of skin still on the end of the bar clamp.
Anybody want pics?
Cru,
No thanks. I am still traumatized from the last MagicMan pictures.
Guys,
If you have sore aching muscles and use heating rubs like Ben Gay and such be sure to thoroughly wash your hands before you go pee. 'Nuff said.
I touched an upright with my band on Friday after well over a year of not doing so. Luckily I was going slow and backed off as soon as I felt/heard it. The band should be ok after resharp, and it's just going to add to the scars on the uprights.
@Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) my head hurts thinking about that!
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) I have no words.....but ooooowwww!
Tough day guys. In lots of areas. :o
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on January 11, 2020, 09:33:40 PMIf you have sore aching muscles and use heating rubs like Ben Gay and such be sure to thoroughly wash your hands before you go pee. 'Nuff said.
Worth repeating!!!! That goes the same for icy hot!!!!!!
That is actually the brand I use (Not that it has ever happened to me you understand....). :o
So I hadn't taken the time to shave for a couple days and my razor was dull so got a new one out of the package. ....I'll spare you the rest involves no styptic powder...pencil eraser sized divot on my chin, now my chin is packing a bandaid... skipping church.... I handle sharp things everyday.
At least it's a regular bandaid not Buzz Light Year.....
Also previous posts made me remember the icy hot in the jock strap prank from high school football.
If I am going to sport a bandaid it better be a good one. I will rock anything as long as its not spongebob!
What do you have against Spongebob?
Another thing to remember - don't squish a stink bug close enough to your face that it hits you in the eye --- it's worst than CS and Pepper spray together, discovered that the other day!!!
Nebraska, I have lost count of the number of times I winged myself with a razor. I have to remember to shave BEFORE I put on a clean shirt.
Southside my wife had never encountered stink bugs before we moved to the Okanagan, she freaked when they made their annual appearance. :D
I hate stink bugs. Can't grow decent tomatoes anymore. I wish the government would allow wide distribution of that Asian Samurai wasp that kills them.
pretty sure they brought in stinkbugs to kill something else then something else to kill them. every time they bring in something to kill something else it ends up being worse than what they killed. I wish ppl would stop meddling in the affairs of mother nature.
Stink bugs came over in shipping containers from Asia (Japan, China, Korea) in the late 1990's. No natural predators here, so they spread quickly. They are resistant to pesticides and cause millions of dollars per year in crop damage across the country, and they also ruin my tomatoes. Where they come from in Asia, stink bugs are not a problem because they are naturally controlled by mother nature with the Samurai wasp. I'm all for widespread release in the States, as they are already beginning to establish natural populations in some areas of the northeast (apparently some wasps are making it here in shipping containers also).
First my wife's cousin brewed a cup of coffee in her fancy k cup machine yesterday. Her husband bought a new flavor of coffee and she wasn't sure she cared for the flavor. When she got to the bottom of her first cup of the day she decided to check the coffee, the coffe maker and the k cup. Yep, a stink bug between the k cup and the bottom of the cup holder. She promptly puked in the kitchen sink.
Second, Neem Oil is an excellent organic pesticide/fungicide that prevents stink bugs from hurting tomatoes, squash and other vegetables. It doesn't work like a synthetic pesticide but is more a systemic so it takes more frequent applications to begin with. Combined with an insecticidal soap it is very effective. Don't expect to see insects falling over dead initially but over a week or so it works! The other benefit is it is a natural fungicide and leaf polish. Just don't use it on broccoli, Neem Oil will taint the flavor.
Permetherin is an excellent stink bug repellant. Sprayed around doors, windows, attic vents etc it helps repell stink bugs. We have a tenth of the things this year since I sprayed Permetherin.
FWIW and because inquiring minds want to know - when I was working in Jeddah Saudi Arabia I learned a Neem tree is a chinaberry tree. I assume that is where neem oil comes from. Our CBs were round and the ones over there were oblong. Over there it is a well loved tree with many medical uses.
Dad grew up in N. central Fla along the Suwannee River in Dixie County and most folks ran free range hogs and had a hog claim registered with the county (Remember what started the Hatfield McCoy feud?). Dad said they would cut every chinaberry tree they found because he said their hogs would starve to death sitting under a chinaberry tree waiting for a chinaberry to fall rather than getting out and foraging on acorns and other available forage. I think my horse is like that - he will starve to death waiting at the gate for me to bring him a cup of sweet feed rather than grazing on knee high pasture grass.
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) ok it's winter up here what do your stink bugs look like? It's past season here I just wonder if what I call a stink bug is the same. Curious that's all.
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) , I really think it's common in horses as well as goats....
It's winter here too but it was 70° today.
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@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256), Southern Stink bug y'all. :)
Yep same stink bug, they don't do so well at 14°. Haven't seen one for months.
Either of you have the green ones now? They are smaller, only been seeing them for about a year or two. 76 here today.... ;D
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) I hate those little suckers. You vacuum them up and they stink the place up! I deal with those coming in in the farmhouse here. I'll bet they get in the attic vent and find their way down. Fortunately I'm not long for this house!
Them critters like my squash plants, especially the zucchini plants.
So far they stay in the garden and not in the house. I don't have them on my tomatoes, yet,
I`m building a new bathroom vanity from a pile of red oak I cut awhile back, after getting the front frame on I grabbed a nice piece off the pile and cut out the panel doors, I planed `em down,routered them up,stuck them together and set them against the vanity.....then noticed they were white oak..doh. Picture is of the second (proper lumber) set of doors.
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That is looking really good.
Thank`s, it`s my first project that involves doors and drawers in quite a few years, getting the "relearning curve" back created some designer kindling wood. I made the drawer guides from wood last night, that went pretty well compared to the doors, got them first shot.
Well, it was yesterday actually. I had a pile of free (There's that word again) dirt I got from the road department several months back. I have been using it as fill to raise the level of my lower lot next to the creek behind my boat house and fish and game cleaning station. I have been moving it whenever I had a little spare time and the weather permitted with baby John (JD 750) and my small FEL. I was nearly done and determined to finish yesterday even though the lot was a little damp. I finally got all the dirt spread now just need to dress it up a little when the ground dries out (or freezes?) and I can drive the tractor over it with my blade and not bog down too badly. Anyway I put baby John up last night and decided to use him to move my stack of mantels as a neighbor wants a badly split up hickory one for a river table.Of course it is on the bottom of the stack so I had to move the 10 above it. Mostly they are stacked 3 mantels wide and each is 3-4 inches thick and mostly 8-10 feet long so they are pretty heavy. It was down in the low 20's last night so I plugged in the block heater for 30-40 minutes while I worked on some other project. I cranked baby John up and started to back out to the front of the shed to put the forks in the bucket but John kept veering right. I checked to see that I wasn't in a frozen rut then checked the tires to make sure none were flat. No problem there. Finally I realized the soft mud on the front tie rods had frozen and would not allow me to steer. I knocked enough off with a spud bar and hatchet to get some range of motion then drove down to the lot to the spigot and washed all the mud out solving the problem. Just a reminder - if you are are working in soft mud in the winter you would be well served to wash, power wash if possible, any mud and snow away from the steering connections on your mobile equipment.
BTW - mill feet will stick in the ice and frozen mud too if you dug them in and you have had rain or melting snow so you might be well served to put them on wooden blocks or such.
Well, it wasn't today or yesterday. It was Saturday.
I fell down.
I twisted my ankle on some not flat surface and lost it while carrying a 1x6x16 over to the pile.
My right shoulder hit the ground hard and my right hand got bent backwards a lot but I didn't break anything other than my pride.
Not fun at all.
It took me a while to get up.
Lots of pain in the shoulder, but that's mostly normal, it was before I fell.
Jim Rogers
PS. I haven't told my wife.
Glad you're not hurt too bad. That sounds like something she doesn't need to know.
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Quote from: Jim_Rogers on January 21, 2020, 09:51:36 AM
PS. I haven't told my wife.
Why would you?! :D :D :D
If I did she'd most likely say: "that's high on the list of things you're not suppose to do......!"
Jim Rogers
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on January 21, 2020, 09:51:36 AM
PS. I haven't told my wife.
Yep, No broken bones, gashes, no big expense, no hospital visit required! Meets the criteria of never happened.
I know better, but I did it anyway.
Never, ever set anything down close to the equipment tires. In a hurry, cut the timber, set the saw down, finish stacking, jump on the tractor, back up, oops (I think I used different words) :o. Maybe it'll cut beveled timbers...
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at least no one was injured in the making of this movie. :D
That way you can make tight cuts without the motor blocking your view. ;D :D.
Looks kind of like an old Dizzy Gillespie trumpet. :D Sorry to see that but glad it is just property and no body parts involved.
Pull the rope and see if it still runs. ;D
Ran over mine last summer and it looked worse than yours, bent and twisted bar. Also had to work on the chain brake and anti-vibe suspension of front handle bar. Spent a few hours at it but works and cuts like it never happened. No new parts either. ;)
Luckily it's just the bar.
My wife was the one that jumped in the tractor and backed up. When we saw it, she just glared at me from the cab as if to say "go ahead, I dare you, blame me". I set the saw down, my bad. :-*
My turn. I was trimming off some extra metal from my log arch to lighten it up and getting ready for some paint touch up. Using an angle grinder to take off a section of ¼" plate. I was cutting at mid-chest height. Most of the way through and it caught or bound up a bit. It kicked back and down and bounced off my thigh just above my knee. Hit the ground and the 3/32" wheel exploded (no shrapnel injury, though) That smarts, I thought, rubbing my thigh. Weird, it didn't cut my pants there, just hurt like it got hit. Really hurt. Then I noticed the slice in my jeans about 6" higher. I looked through the hole and said a Bandaid is not gonna fix this. Off to the ER.
I almost took a before stitches picture to rival an MM post but didn't want to ruin anyone's breakfast or lunch. It was a pretty gaping wound but only the skin was sliced and presumably instantly cauterized as there was very little blood. Lets just say I'm not lean meat. Three mattress stitches and eight regular.
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:o I had cutoff wheels kick back, that could have been a lot worse!
@ljohnsaw (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=20640) many of us are on low carb. so a little fat and meat is OK. it is "whats for dinner."! :)
probably the motor housing hit you where you felt it, and didn't feel the wheel up higher :-[
glad your ok, will not take time to heal since you got stitched up quick, could of been quite bad just another 6" up .
At least it missed the important stuff :). Glad it isnt any worse.
Dang it man! I'm glad it's not worse and hope you have trouble free recovery and healing!
Quote from: ljohnsaw on January 31, 2020, 05:26:16 PMI almost took a before stitches picture to rival an MM post but didn't want to ruin anyone's breakfast or lunch.
This is
not a contest John!!! :-X
Wow very glad that wasn't worse.
Oh man not good, glad it was not worse.
I know. And I know exactly what I did wrong. 1. I was cutting such that it was throwing sparks away from me. The second it grabbed, it pushed towards me and rotated deeper into the metal causing it to push harder. 2. I was standing wrong. I was directly in the line of fire. I always almost always stand to the side. 3. Didn't have a secure grip on the grinder.
A hard lesson I shall never forget.
An fellow I know had a grinding disc explode. Shrapnel penetrated his abdomen. ER docs missed the shrapnel on the X-ray. He ended up with a life threatening infection. Keep the shield on your grinder! I cut my wrist with one when I was 17 years old or so. Had that scar for 30 + years.
mh
Now moose hunter it's good you put that + sign in there cause if your age is right that should read 40 years. Banjo
Went to the cabin to check things, read the meter, and work a little on a medium big burr oak blowd own. Supposed to be a quick trip. Got snow down the boots hiking over to the tree >:(. Decided just to work on some of the crown and smaller stuff, as the spare bigger saw is down and at home 128 miles away (so only one saw up there right....) only had a couple more cuts to make and it's time to bring the tractor up any way. The branch shifts as I'm cutting and pinches the chain tight. >:( :( :(. Didn't pack a saw or hatchet along and they are now 1/4 mile away through fairly deep snow.
"I DID SOMETHING DUMB TODAY" RUNS through my head. Blew about an hour fenangling to get it free.
I hate when that happens. Been there done that!
The only thing worse than not having a chainsaw is only having one chainsaw :).
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) Yep, and I so know that. The back up saw is an old worn husky 372 that now needs refreshing or replacing. I could've easily grabbed another small saw to use as back up before I left home, but you know the "oh it'll be fine" line of thinkng we all have at various points in time.
Quote from: Banjo picker on February 01, 2020, 06:13:26 PM
Now moose hunter it's good you put that + sign in there cause if your age is right that should read 40 years. Banjo
Ya, but the scar went away some years ago!
mh
:D I am glad I'm not the only one that has done that. I feel a little better now.
Quote from: WDH on February 02, 2020, 07:31:43 AM
The only thing worse than not having a chainsaw is only having one chainsaw :).
Suspecting that I might get into that quandry one day I brought the longer bar and chain with me, just in case.
Sure enough it happened. Removed the power head, put the longer bar and chain on and cut myself out of my predicamant. Then went back to my shorter bar and chain.
I did not bring two saws, but the next best thing.
GAB
Wow this went back almost three pages we've been really good lately!!. I went to the mill for a few minutes of therapy today. Have a Ponderosa log sitting ready for almost three weeks. It was minus 2 to start the day but by 5:00 it was all the way to 29, sunny not much wind. Had a few minutes free so let's go start the log... This might belong in health and safety ......but just proved this.... if you leave an open package of n 95 dust masks on the ledge inside your mill shed, mice will get into the package and leave you presents on every single one of the five left in the package. Do I have mouse proof storage there......yep...... :-[ did I fail to use it ::).... For some reason I've heard they are a little bit hard to find right now... I still have a few but felt kinda dumb to waste the 5.
Well, that sucks. Hope it didn't keep you from starting the log.
:D :D :D :D :D
Yeah, don't leave anything in the mill shed that ain't steel or in some kind of non-cardboard box. My issue was always with the paper towels I kept for wiping out the coffee pot or cups. Had confetti all over the place. I thought it was just me and I never had the stones to mention it because I made the same mistake a few times. ;D >:(
Oh no I was bad :o and made three cuts with just my face shield thingy, the wind was good, otherwise I would've made myself go get one. Got it pith centered and cut on 3 5/8 slab. Got a start anyway.
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It was a "near miss" something dumb......caught it before it turned bad!
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:D This is a fun thread, I'm glad we can laugh at ourselves and carry on. I think of a couple of bonehead stunts I pulled and wonder why I am still here.
:D :D Yep, and if I don't laugh at myself, my wife and kids sure remind me that I should! :D :D I'm old enough now I don't have anything to prove except that I still can....!
Ted - isn't that the "Extended, manual, vertical backstop" mod that is used for turning really big cants? Yea - that's it.. you just forgot to lower it is all... :D
Hey firefighter on the side. I'll be getting a LT-55 soon and will feel better when I have those dumb hopefully minor mistakes. I just wondered when 1 tooth of the blade is gone could you snip 1 alternate tooth off and use it for awhile longer?
If just one tooth is gone, take a pair of vice grips and clamp it onto what's left of the missing tooth to make it line up with a raker!
The rest of the teeth will never miss it! ;)
Thanks Chuck. Good to know. I hope I don't have to make to many rakers.
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I had a bad morning . A bowed log rolled when I set it on the mill and knocked it off the jacks. the pallet racking is to flimsy for this application . Flimsy was good when it came time to fix it.
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That looks really not good.
It wasn't . I did get it almost back right , less than an 1/8 of an inch. Definitely looking to get some 1 1/2 by 6 tubing to build another one. More things get add to my list to do than are getting check off. I need another me. ;D
:'(fiddle-smiley smiley_flowerhead closest things I could find in the list for a get well/sympathy card for your mill.
:D :D :D
I woke up at 3:30 this morning after a nightmare that the same thing happened to my mill. :o
I knew it would be my turn sooner than later. Had the mill in the yard to do some maintenance. After all the maintenance was done I had some logs to mill for my nephew. Pulling away from my garage I managed to hook the box of my company truck with the tee handle for the blade tension. That handle on the TK's sticks out a little to far, that is until you bend it over dragging it down a truck bed. Guess I better call the insurance guy ::)
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No need to worry Outlaw, it's a work truck.
Knock out the dent smiley_smash
Paint a little anchor seal over the scratch to keep it from rusting arteest-smiley
And keep on trucking move_it
Ouch and double ouch.
Seems the dumbest thing I've done was to be a firefighter/emt right now. Happy to be home for a few days. Woodworking and milling will keep me busy. Maybe playing with the kids a little.
FYI
If you use tissue glue(super glue) to close a couple cuts on the back of your hand let the glue dry completely before applying the bandaids.
Apparently the glue likes the adhesive in the bandaids really well. ::)
Imagine a really mad 14 pound terrier mix......... This little dog does not want his blood drawn to re check his thyroid, no way, no how and he is way quicker then you.
They seem to come in small groups. The frequency is disturbing almost as much as the pain.
I was turning around near a barn in our property where I'm cutting trees and clearing out the understory. Didn't remember the stump....
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Found it with the bumper.
Then this morning I was building some bird feeders for the nursing home in Walnut Cove and managed to pierce my finger with a nail from my finish nailer.
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@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) anything else? :) they usually come in threes.
Not yet and that bothers me a little. :o
Rush home and get under the covers.
:D Never! I try to take it like a man! And write checks to cover the damage.... :laugh:
No good deed goes unpunished.
Ugg.... Well, like they say the first scratch hurts the most.....
Man, April is starting out with a bang and a bite! Not cool.
Finished a mobile job sawing big Red Oak logs , getting mill ready to tow its dark I'm lowering the saw head down on the pin when I here Bang . In the dark I caught the outrigger with the blade . Blade broke , next day i'm checking everything on the mill . Found tensioner gauge broke and one bed rail needed adjusting .
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I just have to ask, why was the blade still installed?
Keeping a blade installed and especially tensioned is not good for the life of the blade!
Just sayin'!
Quote from: Chuck White on April 18, 2020, 12:55:29 PM
I just have to ask, why was the blade still installed?
Keeping a blade installed and especially tensioned is not good for the life of the blade!
Just sayin'!
Does not do much to the tensioner seals either.
GAB
guys, not like he's hijacking this thread or anything....
I was tired after cutting all day to finish the job , it was dark and I was in a hurry to get home . Just forgot to take blade off before securing the head .
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on April 18, 2020, 01:31:01 PM
guys, not like he's hijacking this thread or anything....
Nobody said he was!
Just asked a simple question, and he answered!
So does WM recommend removing the blade after use or just to transport? I understand removing tension.
Man oh man, this thread never ends :D. We just continue to find ways to hurt and embarass ourselves. I backed onto the parking pad and all of a sudden had that sinking feeling. Shoot! ::) Fortunately my buddy was not far away with a chain. I had a 4x4 post laying there doing nothing constructive so that is now pressed into service.
Quote from: tacks Y on April 18, 2020, 08:09:21 PM
So does WM recommend removing the blade after use or just to transport? I understand removing tension.
After reading this I went back and reviewed my manual. I almost never transport mine with a blade on and I don't leave a blade on after sawing every day. One point I had read but forgotten was my manual says to engage the clutch to tighten the drive belt and help stabilize the motor during transport. I will be doing that in the future. I am not sure what it says about mills with autoclutch or if you can leave them engaged with the mill off.
I appreciate posts like this thread because it reminds me to re-check myself periodically.
I wrote myself a note on the simple set cover so I don't forget to disengage the clutch before starting .When I first brought the mill home , the first thing I did was start the motor without disengaging the clutch .
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I mostly cut at home and remove the blade when I finish cutting.Now I need to write another note check blade .
If you leave the blade installed when you're finished sawing, whether tensioned or not the inside of the band where it contacts the belts will stain/rust !
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Cant even think up a good excuse for this one
Oh yeah you can, you just need to think about it a bit.
Here's mine, did miss the clamp, barely, but I know I messed up the blade on the bottom side.
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For a change, it was on the very last cut of the day and the blade was ready for a change anyway.
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
Quote from: Chuck White on April 19, 2020, 07:31:46 AMIf you leave the blade installed when you're finished sawing, whether tensioned or not the inside of the band where it contacts the belts will stain/rust !
I never leave a blade on after sawing, even overnight. There are too many good reasons to remove it; safety, mechanical, housekeeping, etc.
Quote from: Patrick NC on April 19, 2020, 07:41:32 PM
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
It's either Ronaviriitis OR That D4MN Murphy at work again!
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Quote from: Patrick NC on April 19, 2020, 07:41:32 PM
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
It's either Ronaviriitis OR That D4MN Murphy at work again!
There he goes again! Murphy's been following me around all weekend. He even put sawdust in my fuel filter. 😉
I have always unfolded my bands that come wrapped in 3 loops, by tossing them in the air to land on the grass and spring open. I decided last week that I could try to unwrap one, since I do a handled maneuver to fold them back up. well it twisted in my hand, and I got one tooth into my palm. not my first rodeo so I went on and got a little dirt in the blood which helped the clotting process. so this week I had a stubborn blade that no matter how I tossed it, it stayed together. so I got it twisted open, then let it go. not injury but boy did it smoke and not cut well in the ERC I was working on. yes I manually unwrapped it backward. then had to invert it. took me a few days to post it but now I feel good I have made many if not most of the mistakes that everyone else here has made. my hand is healing up fine. thanks! :) :) :)
Mine made a funny noise too when i did that. ::)
Well, I can say that I haven't cut the metal back stop. Oops , I forgot I haven't even cut a log yet either... ;D
Quote from: doc henderson on April 29, 2020, 10:26:40 PM
I have always unfolded my bands that come wrapped in 3 loops, by tossing them in the air to land on the grass and spring open. I decided last week that I could try to unwrap one, since I do a handled maneuver to fold them back up. well it twisted in my hand, and I got one tooth into my palm. ..... :) :) :)
doc doc doc! C'mon man! I thought you were better than the 'throw it on the grass type'. You're a craftsman after all. :D There was a video I saw here over the winter and it took me 40 minutes to find it, but go to this thread and watch the video in reply #43, this is a safe and fool proof way to handle blades, @Chuck White (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=7517) knows what he is doing.
I used to throw blades on the floor in the shop (when I was 16-18 years old and afraid of them) and then on one of my first real machine shop jobs a toolmaker saw me do that and threw an oily rag at my head and started cursing in German. Then he gave me a lesson, such as is in this video and I never went back. Throwing blades can cause dulling and other issues, especially in a machine shop on a concrete floor. ;D
Be careful. We need your hands in a functional condition with no new infection entry points.
Knowledge is power.
Thanks for the "tag" OGH!
I'll post that thread here, might save a few more injuries!
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Nothin' to it! :)
OH SHOOT! I spent 40 minutes looking for that video and then never put the link in the post. :D
Well, I guess I did something dumb today too. Thanks for adding it, it just a good clean simple video on a basic skill that can get folks in trouble if they are not careful.
thanks chuck. I watched it a few times and ready to give it a try. thanks OG. good info. heavy gloves and eye protection are prob. not a bad idea!
Doc is just using the dirt to build up his immunity from infections ;D
The uncoiling process if done correctly should be no problem. It's when it's done wrong that you get hit on the forehead as the blade springs open and it cuts you! I know a guy that happened to recently shortly after he started sharpening his own blades. ::) I have to remind him to uncoil so the teeth are away from his body :o
I had one blade that was "inside out", but I noticed it as I was installing it. So I turned it right side in before cutting any logs. And as has been stated, throwing a blade on the ground is a good way to dull the blade and knock the set out.
I uncoiled a blade this week and it slipped and I have three little tooth marks on my arm along with holes in one of my work shirts. I am sure the blood will washout... :)
I'm so proud that you guys are keeping my thread alive. I will always use a big patch of zoysia grass to uncoil my blades. I get them started and and then let them go. That grass is like 70s shag carpet. The blades are very well padded.
My something dumb for the week was while putting a new rear bearing on my wife's Subaru. I set the parking brake to be safe while working on it, not thinking that that would make it almost impossible to get the rotor off. I say almost impossible, because with enough prying and pulling and banging it will come off. Luckily I didn't damage the brake and I got it all done and now the car doesn't make terrible noise.
That is funny. I fought with the brakes to the point of exhaustion. Why didn't sumdumguy just cut the seized cable?
Circle mill, them bandsaws sound dangerous :D
Well, I went out yesterday morning ahead of the rain to drop another tree along the driveway and get it to the mill. It was a leaner but I got it to lay over nice and miss critical infrastructure. I then limbed it up a good ways and began bucking it up. The butt log dropped down nice, I taped off the next 12'4" log and bucked it. as it dropped I had one of those gears a whirling ignoseconds but the mass was in motion. The driveway there is over 20% and it took off rolling. Nothing to do but watch. It looked like it was going to roll out fine onto a flat area but then about halfway down it scrubs the high side bank just enough to start a turn. Oh this isn't gonna be good, mamma is doing the dishes and she is gonna be pithed. Yup perfect strike, the well tile explodes, lid goes flying concrete tile smashed. Well might as well walk down and survey the scene of the tragedy. Amazingly the wellhead is undamaged, the concrete absorbed it all and chocked the log. The rest of the day was spent shuttling logs down and bringing old scrap chunks of I beams and even part of an old truck frame back up the hill. Modern battery drills are amazing. By the end of the day Rube Goldburg had bolted together a cage over the wellhead, there's still 6 or 8 trees in striking distance and leaning for the light ::). I suspect I'll remember to leave a limb or two on them.
I might bring some big honkin rocks up to surround it all just in case :D
And another honey do added to the list, replace the well tile. A few more free trees and I'll about dig my way to the top of this hole.
That job sounds like trying to chew your first raw oyster. You chew and it gets bigger and bigger and there's nowhere to spit! :D
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) yer just eatin the wrong kind of oyster. ;)
I was in the process of oyster harvest this morning and managed to whittle a little hide off of my finger. After this many years you woyld think I could make it through an entire spring with out doing that. It's not a huge booboo but I still feel dumb. Had to stop and improvise a bandaid out of the truck..
I also. managed to send a log rolling down the hill last night with my wife watching up at the house. I had it decked by the mill and decided it could go sit on the firewood pile as I had better ash logs to saw before it so decided to pick it up with the pallet forks and unceremoniously dump it. I came in the house she said nothing til I was crawling into bed the she burst out laughing said it was pretty funny seeing me chase the log with the tractor as it rolled slowaly down the slope. .. ::)...Thanks dear .... I guess it would make the qualification as a log... Meets the" logs roll" rule.
@Don P (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17) ,
That's funny (as long as it is someone else). :D :D
Quote from: SawyerTed on April 30, 2020, 11:01:54 PM
That job sounds like trying to chew your first raw oyster. You chew and it gets bigger and bigger and there's nowhere to spit! :D
Which goes back to the age old question: "How drunk was the first guy to ever try to eat a raw oyster?" :-\
Or exactly how hungry did that first oyster eater have to be?
Native Americans thrived on oysters and fresh water mussels as there were huge piles of shells called middens discovered by European Invaders.
how ironic, the real invader was small pox.
Quote from: WDH on May 01, 2020, 08:08:32 PM
Native Americans thrived on oysters and fresh water mussels as there were huge piles of shells called middens discovered by European Invaders.
As NZ has no native land mammals seafood and shellfish was a big thing for original polynesian Maori. They would harvest Paua (Abalone), Kina (a spikey sea urchin), various clams (pipi and toheroa) and kutai (mussels). Inland was tuna (eels) and koura (crawfish). Regular fish and birds where on the menu as well of course.
Collectively they are called kaimoana. Kai (food) and Moana (Ocean).
Like WDH says, archeologists are able to trace the history of old coastal villages by the piles of shells they created.
Well, it was my turn today. I went to town to buy a bunch of supplies for building my kiln shed. I had 12 sheets of osb and about 70 2x4s on my trailer. That stuff is so slippery against each other. I made the turn onto the road that goes to my house and noticed a 2x4 in the mirror as I rounded a turn. I pulled over to tie it down better and someone pulled in behind me to let me know that a bunch came off my trailer in the middle of the intersection. Of course it took a while to get turned around on a little side street with my big trailer. I called 911 to get the police to go make sure no one had an accident. I was still on the phone with 911 when I got back to the intersection. To my relief a state highway truck had come along and dragged it all to the side. 11 sheets of osb and a dozen 2x4s to be exact. No damage to any of it. I had that stuff tied down tight, but starting on that hill just was too much. I got it all back loaded with the help of the highway worker and super strapped down and finally headed home. As punishment for my stupidity I got stuck behind another highway truck spraying roadside weeds. 17 mph all the way home for 9 miles.
I ain't saying nuthin but don't feel special :D
The funniest one of those I saw was a flatbed delivery truck loaded with 12' sheetrock and apparently very loosely strapped. He crossed a railroad grade and I saw the load go up, the truck continue forward and then the load slammed back down on the bed. About 2' of the entire stack snapped off and dropped to the road. The driver was oblivious. To have been a fly on the wall when he got to where he was going :D.
That is why the local hardware store will not help secure a load, they don't want the liability. OSB is miserable stuff at the best of times.
When I was unloading the trailer at home I stepped on the pile and took a ride. Twisted my back trying to not fall.
That store bought stuff is out to get you.
Hardware store I work at, we can not help secure the load either.
Quote from: thecfarm on May 04, 2020, 08:09:01 PM
That store bought stuff is out to get you.
Hardware store I work at, we can not help secure the load either.
As much as I'd like to be using more from my mill to build this, 2x4s are so easy to buy. Plus, I buy from a little family owned lumber yard. They all know my name in there and I buy on account. My dad worked there over 50 years ago.
Glad you and all others are ok and no issues. That would cause quite the adrenalin rush!
I started sawing yesterday and my lube mizer had nothing coming out of it. I had cleaned out the 3psi check valve day before, so was looking forward to first rate operation.
I figured the pump was empty and maybe blew a fuse.
So told customer might be a few minutes while I figured it out.
Checked that the inline filter was full. Tried to run again not working. Checked fuses in fuse box. Lost one somewhere in there and got another one from truck. Still no go.
Starting to worry, was cutting dry cedar poles and lube is helpful keeping blade cool so didnt want to wing it.
Then I turned on the Lubemizer on my console. This made a huge difference and fixed the problem. Maybe only 5 minutes down, customer was impressed how well I knew my machine. ::) ::) ::)
:D :D That is funny.
It's like looking everywhere for the glasses that are on top of your head.
Don't forget the tape measure you put in a "safe place"
I have only hit my log stops once. you can see the line on it from years ago. this time I only polished it on top.
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need to get some Timber King blood red paint! ;) :D
You have to be good to just polish the top. 8)
I polished the top of one of my clamps just like that. Trouble was it did just as much damage to the blade as cutting into it.
i stopped and backed out. i sure was not going to hit the next three log stops set at the same ht. and I assume i lost the set that was oriented down and the blade was sure to start going up.
I went and picked up a few cedar logs from a friend this morning after work. I got the logs on the trailer with no problem, but when I tried to move one forward my feet slipped on the wet trailer(it's raining) and my face went right into the log. I hit the log hard and was seeing stars for a moment. The bridge of my nose has a small laceration and a few other scratches. That was not fun. Of course I had to strap the logs down with blood dripping from my nose. Drove home wiping blood off my nose with a napkin. Wife had to leave for work, but she put a couple steri strips on me before she left.
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at least you did not break your glasses. I am sure the log is ok, and if ERC should blend in fine (blood) . glad you were not seriously hurt (life threatening). I know that hurts. if I stumble going up stairs I get a slight sense or smell of blood. prob. PTSD from the times I did stuff like that. :D
Lol. The glasses are readers that I put on to be able to see the phone while I took a selfie.
Ouch
That is a pretty good whack. I always heard that if you are going to do something, you may as well do it right :).
Oww! Glad you are ok..
Quote from: WDH on May 13, 2020, 08:32:31 PM
That is a pretty good whack. I always heard that if you are going to do something, you may as well do it right :).
Thanks Danny. I'm happy you think I did it right.
WOA!
When I saw firefighterontheside as last post, I was afraid you Done Something Dum Again already.
Good to see you Didn't
Stay safe!
Ever walk into the door of a cap on a truck? I have a small truck, Colorado. That DanG cap door comes just right. I won't bother to tell you all this is the second time. The first time, many months ago was not all that bad. I made up for it this time. ;) That corner is sharp.
Forgot to say, that corner bites into my forehead.
I am glad to learn I'm not the only one to do that. ;D
Unfortunately this thread will never end. Who knows maybe someone will learn something from this.
Probably not me though!! electricuted-smiley thumbs-up
Ouch! Man hitting your nose like that can sure make your eyes water!
I sure hope I will be more careful on the wet trailer boards,but yeah, I will continue to do dumb things.
Was hooking up the gooseneck to my 1 ton about 10 years ago. my son who was about 9 gave directions as I backed under. It was close so we lowered it to see if would center itself. told my son who weighed about 60 pounds to grab the front of the trailer and shake it to help it over. we were back in trees and it was a little muddy. it did not move. He was in the bed. so I jumped up to the far left side of the bumper and with both hands on the tongue of the trailer, gave it a hard shake, as my son had already done the softer version and it did not move. trailer still did not move, but instantly push my feet off the bumper and my left rib cage landed full force on the side of the bed. I could barely breath or walk, and of course my son smiles a little. I told him not to smile as I made my way to the open drivers door to lay my top half in the seat and catch my breath. when you break bones in a circle, they usually break in two places. I had pain in the front and back of my left rib cage for about 6 weeks. pretty sure in other word I broke ribs. I survived. no x-ray as the treatment is the same. grin and bear it. unless sob, then need to r/o a collapsed lung. good lesson. :)
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) ,
Your tale with your son reminds me when we were leaving Jacksonville NC after I got out of the USMC. I had sold my house and moved into a rental till things stabilized (If that is the correct term for it for moving here). I was moving furniture in my right new pick up with a camper shell on the back and had it loaded to much I could not see out the back so I told my son who was about 11 y/o to watch for traffic as I backed out of the drive. I had the passenger window down so I could see and talk to him. I slowly backed up and kept asking "Is anybody coming?" He kept telling me "Nope" Finally I came to an abrupt stop with a loud crunch. I got out and found I had backed into the new owners Scout parked at the curb with it's heavy duty bumper which was just high enough to ride over the top of mine and hit the corner of my truck between the bumper and the light. I looked at Sean and told him "I thought you said there was nothing coming." Sean has never been one to be at a loss of words and immediately replied "It wasn't coming. It was parked."
Yesterday i was at the sawmill cutting up a maple log for a customer. Need to go back to the shop
to fill the water jug. I forgot to raise to garage door up and it was just at head high. Dum me I as
looking down at my cell phone and ran right into it. Knock me down on the drive was and bruised my
Hand. Next time i will remember to raise it up all the way.
Sawwood
I was at a residential home loading up some logs from a fallen tree about 2 years ago. The heaviest one had me slip right as I was at the back of the trailer, fell down and about broke my teeth out on the back corner side rail. Luckily I came away with only some hefty scratches!
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Yep,
Pushing a wheel-barrel over loaded with firewood to OWB during spring thaw, picked up good head of steam before front wheel sunk in mud, feet kicked out and face plant into back of wheel-barrel (maybe a log, my eyes closed by that point), still going down with hands on the handles, next face plant into mud, and entire load of firewood dumped ontop of my back and head as barrel flipped backwards. Little slow getting up from that one, sorry/thankful no pictures or video, but busted right between the eyes like FF-ontheside.
JJ
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) sounds like something my 9 year old Sean would do if I trusted him at all to help me back up.
we are all either lucky to still be alive, or tough as nails, I guess I will go with both! :) :) :)
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 14, 2020, 01:02:57 PMsounds like something my 9 year old Sean would do if I trusted him at all to help me back up.
Sounds like you are learning already. :D
Something about reading this thread during lunch brought me bad luck this afternoon when I fell not once,but twice with a very heavy load. Could have got bad hurt both times. One injury to my cocyx and the other to my shin. I was lucky.
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Here's a photo of one, I haven't seen the other myself yet but they both smart right well. I won't be posting a photo of that one in any event, don't want to give MM any competition.
Edit 2 hours later: that tail bone pain is not letting up and it hurts to sit. Then shin only hurts when it gets touched. Glad tomorrow is a lighter day with a run up to harbor freight an hour away. Hope I can tolerate sitting in the truck that long.
Some of us are real creative when it comes time to hurt ourselves. ;D We were unloading concrete guardrails with a picker, I reached up to stop one from spinning just as buddy swung the boom. I was on the offside where he couldn't see me. That load caught me in the coconut and parked me on my butt. Good thing I was wearing a hardhat but it still rung my bell.
Nothing sawmill or tree or lumber related here just my glamorous job....
So today was crazy busy no real reason for it except the weather was better I guess. It's been drizzly wet a few days, we needed the moisture. I had a bunch of cattle work after dinner and wasn't really presentable afterwards and we had some small animal appointments late afternoon so I changed out my dirty scrub top that has a zippered pocket to a plain one. Well things are going back and forth techs taking pets outside, sending aimals home taking in appointments etc. Well one dog I had to sedate and it barfed in the surgery room while the sedative was starting to work. (ma'am has your dog eaten today.....) it happens with this product some times, no big deal. Move the dog to the exam room, the tech goes out to do something else, I retrieve stuff to clean it up and just as I bend over to start, I realize I just changed shirts.
Now....No longer is my cellphone contained by a zipper pocket. It is of course ahead of me along with its pocket buddy the ink pen, they have sensed their new found freedom and are hurtling out of my pocket at lightspeed. My hand flails up grasping a now empty shirt pocket, and clinically inappropriate words issue from my lips as in slow motion my phone belly flops into a pile of fancy gourmet dog barf, his buddy the ink pen only lands half way in/out.. :-[ So from the office across the hallway I hear Doctor H's voice "what's going on in there Doc?".....My reply ...cell phone fell out of my pocket into fancy dog vomit.....pause ...laughter from across the hall. receptionist down the hallway "what was that, your phone fell in what??"
Me "dog barf" ....more laughter. At lest my tech said thank you for cleaning up after laughing. My wife even laughed at me. Glad I've got a good phone case.
I hate it when that happens.
Those darn phones do like to escape with new found freedom. Sometimes, as you found out, they land in fancy dog barf. You would think they would learn a lesson, but they don't.
Well at least it didn't commit harikari upon landing, there was a bright side. A couple others weren't so lucky wh e n they lept to freedom.
Your tale reminds me of the time I stopped at our local Vet's office and he was cussing a blue streak and scrubbing all the walls. Seems the previous patient was a monkey with diarrhea. whiteflag_smiley smiley_horserider headscratch running-doggy steve_smiley
My dad always carried a transistor radio in his shirt pocket. He wrapped a couple of rubber bands around it to keep it from sliding out when he'd bend over.
Thanks for the chuckle this morning.
Nebraska at least you got yours back. I went to marina to take boat to the lake property. Always put my phone inside boat before I did anything. This time I was in a hurry to meet someone out there. Started untying boat splosh, there goes my new ( 2 month old ) sonim xp8 phone 50' down to the bottom. They are waterproof for 30 minutes. But for some reason I couldn't find a diver hanging around the marina that day to retrieve it lol. Costly mistakes $700 to replace.
Your phone story reminded me of a couple summers ago, I was adding oil to the hydraulic reservoir on my old combine. Bent over pouring oil up on the platform when my phone took a dive out of my pocket. Right on the ground and broke the screen in 2 places. Worked for a while before wiping out my contact list.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on May 28, 2020, 09:06:56 AMYour tale reminds me of the time I stopped at our local Vet's office and he was cussing a blue streak and scrubbing all the walls. Seems the previous patient was a monkey with diarrhea.
Did you go twice that day? :D
Just kidding
Monkey with diarrhea, oh heaven help me, :o I have three I loosely care for in the practice (along with much deference to a well experienced veterinarian around Kansas City). They are a very quick, athletic beyond belief, two year old, un potty trained toddler who will never grow up. Buyer beware....
And a monkey is not nearly as cute as a grandkid.
My turn. Splitting firewood yesterday had one last piece biger than the rest. Rather than tilt the splitter i lifted it up well almost just before i got it on the splitter my hand slipped. Landed on my big toe. Now my foot that has the heel that is getting better has a black big toe. No pic I cant match magicman with gore.
Ouch. Makes a good case for steel toes.
Ever notice when we try to save a minute it cost many more minutes? ???
Oh ouch, I hope that toe heals without residual damage....Nothing like lifetime reminders of the sins of your youth.
It turns out my Samsung phone has a pretty good waterproof rating. I found that out after I fished it out of my pond. I was taking my goats out to a fenced area for them to graze for the day. I noticed something splash into the pond and figured it was a frog jumping in. Later I couldn't find my phone so I called it, but I never heard it. I started retracing my steps and thought, "I wonder if that splash was my phone." Sure enough, I found my phone submerged right under the surface. It had been in there maybe 10 minutes. It's working as if no harm had come to it. Still, I've got a fan blowing on it. My wife looked it up and it's supposed to be water resistant for 30 minutes.
Put the forks back on went to dumo some scrap on the fire ( note to self ) lock the forks in be for you dump stuff on fire :D
OOOOPS!! :D How come we too soon old and too late schmart?
Caution, the following post contains photos rated at about 6 on the Magicman grossness scale(tm). ;D
Te dumb thing I did toady was not burning my finger as I has done last week while cooking breakfast last week.
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Nope, not that. Nor was it that I was working with the newly exposed fresh skin uncovered.
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Nope not that either. Neither of these were created through my lack of thinking or dumbness (well maybe just a tad). The dumb thing I did today was managing, while pruning just one single pine branch that was in my way, with a pruning saw to land said saw in the middle of all that new very tender skin.
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Stung just a little. Now I have a scab in the middle of a healing blister.
I do note that this thread is on it's 15th page. SO I am not alone, just sayin' ;D :D
sorry I should have mentioned that too. so... addendum: "leave it open and exposed to air at night, and do not cut it open with a saw!" :D :D :D
NOW you tell me? smiley_furious say_what smiley_tom_dizzy01
At this point, you might ensure that it's sterile, by rinsing it really well with alcohol! ;D
Gee thanks Chuck, great idea! I'll let you know how it goes...than again, maybe you will hear directly, you're not that far away. ;D
That burn looked bad enough. You just had to add insult to injury! Isn't that always the way. If you're injured, you can always manage to hit that exact spot again.
Murphy is a cruel SOB! He enforces laws on those with greatest likelihood of pain!
Glad it was after supper, when I saw that post. Of all the spots to hit...
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) is now off the hook and I can take his spot. ::) ::) ::) :(
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This was a right new glove.
I've always said my WM is safer than a tablesaw and I can prove that now.
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I was cutting the corner off a bench leg on my tablesaw set at a 45 degree angle. Made the first cut and the cut off piece was on the table and I reached for it. I don't know if it hit the blade and snatched my hand into the running saw or I just dumbly stuck it into the blade. That stopped all forward progress for the day!
To the house, called wife up to go to the ER 8 miles away. Got there with my hand wrapped in paper towels, through the C-19 check and got checked in. About 90 minutes later with 10 stitches in the ring and middle finger and a fingernail on my index finger headed to the great manicure shop in the sky, a tetanus booster, an antibiotic shot and an 800 mg Motrin and I was done. We got to the pharmacy just before they closed and got 5 days worth of antibiotics and a special sleeve to keep the fingers dry. I considered trying 3 condoms over them but decided the gauze on the bottom would wick up the water. They X-rayed for foreign object and to confirm no broken bones. Deep but did not get quite get to the bone.
The doctor on call tonight was a lady doctor from Sudan. She was very pleasant with a good bedside manner and we did some refresher Arabic I thought I'd forgotten and she was not expecting to hear in a rural WV community. I am very well pleased with her performance at this point.
I'll see my regular doctor/PA on Friday for a check up to make sure no infection and get it re-dressed.
Ah man! I am so sick to see that. So very sorry that happened to you. That just sucks. Glad you kept your fingers.
My son saw me running the table saw a couple of months ago and chastised me for pulling out those little strips. He was pretty firm with me, he said "my teacher taught me to NEVER do that, and my teacher was RIGHT." It's rare for him to 'correct me', but he knew I don't argue with someone when they are right.
I am more careful now. He WAS right. Of course you know this too. Just really sorry it happened to you. That will take a while to heal. Keep it clean and dry (I know you know this too. FF translation: Don't put them fingers back to work before they are ready.
Funny, but when I looked at your octagonal leg I thought "hey, that looks nice, but it must be a pain to cut on a table saw." I just never expected it to be THAT much pain. Rest up and heal up.
Oh and thanks for taking my spot on this thread. Sorry you gave up so much to do that.
Well that's just great! I bet you still cannot play the piano! :) glad you are gonna be ok, FF translation, it could have been worse! best wishes for a speedy recovery! Doc. Just be sure when they are almost healed, not to cut them in the same spot with another saw!
I hope you have a speedy recovery 👍
WV, you showed a picture of a tore up glove. Were you wearing that while using the saw? :-X
I was always taught that you NEVER wear gloves around rotating equipment. Too easy to get snagged and pulled into it.
That is not good!!! :(
Da glove man, da glove. Can it be saved? Stitches, transplant ?? Ya gotta do something to save da glove. :o
Oh and about da fingers, they will heal kinda OK and the pain will go away as soon as it quits hurting. ::)
I had a jointer grab my glove on my left hand last year. Pulled my hand into the cutterhead. I should not have been wearing gloves. If the cutterhead had not grabbed the loose finger part of the glove, I would not have lost the end of my finger ::).
As odd as it sounds I think you are very lucky, could have been way worse. Take care!
Table saws scare the heck out of me but I still use one so I try to be extra careful.
What I try to follow:
No gloves, loose clothing etc.
No reaching over a spinning blade (I start and stop the blade a lot).
Stand to one side to avoid kick back.
Use push stick.
Clear tripping hazards.
OH Man! Not good. Sorry to read this Howard. When I saw the glove I was expectibg a lot worse result. Sorry for your injury. Heal quick!
You are gonna be wanting to do stuff, but don push it.
Lynn,
The glove probably can't be saved. :( Another HF $1.89 down the drain. ::) Yes I was wearing it at the time and yes it may have been a contributing factor. Unfortunately lately I have had some sort of fungus or such on both hands and if I am not careful and let them dry out they crack at the seams so bad they bleed so keeping plenty of lotion on them and wearing gloves has allowed me to function. I guess that will be a topic of discussion with the doctor's follow up visit tomorrow (That just changed to today) and we will see. So you are saying it will feel good when it quits hurting - that is good to know. ???
OGH,
The octagon legs really are easy to make just watch those cutoff pieces. BTW - I am ready to hand off the goat spot to anybody else who is willing to take it. Of course if my wife ever figures out how to send the pre-stitches photo off her phone nobody else may want the spot.
Doc,
Now you've got me really upset 'cause the doctor told me I'd be playing the piano by the end of the month and I told her that was great because I never could play it before. :D I was surprised to find a Muslim lady doc from Sudan because of the politics with that country. Just goes to show there are great people everywhere if we can just get past the politics.
H366 - you are spot on. Any of those suggestions would have prevented this.
I try and avoid painful experiences, therefor I have no intention of competing with you fellows.
Hope your pains go away soon.
GAB
WV Sawmiller
My dad lost a finger tip in similar fashion when he was in his early 70's. Just because you can't see the tip of a running table saw blade, it's still there.
ps In my travels(much less than yours unfortunately) around planet earth I have been lucky enough to meet good decent people everywhere. Locations change, people don't.
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Lynn,
... Unfortunately lately I have had some sort of fungus or such on both hands and if I am not careful and let them dry out they crack at the seams so bad they bleed so keeping plenty of lotion on them and wearing gloves has allowed me to function. I guess that will be a topic of discussion with the doctor's follow up visit tomorrow (That just changed to today) and we will see. So you are saying it will feel good when it quits hurting - that is good to know. ???
OGH,
... BTW - I am ready to hand off the goat spot to anybody else who is willing to take it. Of course if my wife ever figures out how to send the pre-stitches photo off her phone nobody else may want the spot.
Howard, regarding that skin condition, over the years I have had something similar particularly in miserable winters when I am working a lot in the weather). Are you familiar with Bag Balm? It is a paste/lotion used on a cows udder to keep the skin healthy and has some ingredients that help fight infection and cracking. When things get bad, that is my go-to. Available in most farm supply stores.
Regarding somebody taking up the spot of last in the list...Nobody wants that, but SOMEBODY has to do it, just not intentionally.
Sorry about your glove, maybe you can get a grant from the government to help overcome the financial impact? I have been using those mechanics type gloves in the shop. They fit tighter and allow more dexterity. I buy them in the fall when HD has them in a big barrel, 3 pairs for $17 or so. Those 3 used to last a year, now they last about 8 months. They are snug and not too hot and help me eliminate a lot of little cuts. Of course I did not have them on yesterday when I cut myself because I did not want to get sap on them. :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Magicman on June 04, 2020, 07:16:23 AMOh and about da fingers, they will heal kinda OK and the pain will go away as soon as it quits hurting.
This reminds me of my Gramps. Whenever someone would hurt themselves, he would smile and say, "You know, the good thing is that it'll feel better when it quits hurting."
Oww. Glad it wasn't worse!
I'll just pipe up to say, tight fitting or not, no gloves around spinning machines. You can pull out if it gets skin, cloth can suck you in.
Corn Huskers lotion is another one we used tree planting, not as greasy as bag balm. Pine tar soaps and salves have some magical properties from the resin as well.
Okay, because of all the concern about the glove I went back and cut the fingers off the other one and my wife is sewing them on right now so we may be able to save it after all. (Not so sure what to do about the other one now - maybe it fits in with a new fashion trend.)
I am familiar with bag balm and think I have heard of the corn huskers lotion so depending on what my PA gives me today I may pick up some BB and CHL on my next trip to TSC. (They are in the same lot with HF where I need to go for the gloves ::).) I was going to the doctor tomorrow but when we called for an appointment she said come today - I think she is off tomorrow.)
Ouch!
Quote from: Chuck White on June 03, 2020, 06:24:07 PM
At this point, you might ensure that it's sterile, by rinsing it really well with alcohol! ;D
As long as you're rinsing it with alcohol, you might as well set it on fire too, to sterilize it. :D :D :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on June 03, 2020, 10:41:28 PMI was cutting the corner off a bench leg on my tablesaw set at a 45 degree angle. Made the first cut and the cut off piece was on the table and I reached for it. I don't know if it hit the blade and snatched my hand into the running saw or I just dumbly stuck it into the blade. That stopped all forward progress for the day!
Man, I hurt just looking at the photos! However, I know hindsight is alway 20/20, would it have been better to maybe use a compound miter saw instead of a table saw to cut the table legs? A lot more stability and easier to keep the hands at a safe distance. Just a thought.
I hope you heal fast and I hope there's a warranty on the gloves. ;D
Guess you won't be playing the guitar anytime soon either. I felt my stomach churn looking at that, I remember the pain when I took the tip of a finger off in a table saw almost 50 years ago. I have used one since but am almost too cautious now.
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Quote from: Magicman on June 04, 2020, 07:16:23 AMOh and about da fingers, they will heal kinda OK and the pain will go away as soon as it quits hurting.
This reminds me of my Gramps. Whenever someone would hurt themselves, he would smile and say, "You know, the good thing is that it'll feel better when it quits hurting."
That reminds me of a mechanic I worked with back in the 70's when I was a diesel mechanic in Montana. The guy was in his 60's and had no right thumb. He would tell the story that when he was 10 years old, he would help his Pa with sawing logs in their sawmill (one of those big circular saws run with a big flat belt to their steam tractor). He was pushing a log through and got distracted and it sawed his thumb right down the middle. Needless to say in his day they were 30 miles from the nearest town and even further from a hospital so his Ma did the only thing she could do. She cut off the thumb save for a flap of skin and sewed it on over the wound. It healed fine. That was always a cringe inducing story to me.
Glad you still have all your fingers.
The story continues - the ER nurse just called back and said they checked the X-rays and all said all the cut fingers have several fractures so she is setting me up with an ortho doc tomorrow. She said everything seems to be intact and I can't see what he will do other than maybe splint it to stabilize it a few weeks as needed. Do they make special epoxy for this? I guess as long as they don't want to do a river table I should be okay.
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The story continues - the ER nurse just called back and said they checked the X-rays and all said all the cut fingers have several fractures so she is setting me up with an ortho doc tomorrow. She said everything seems to be intact and I can't see what he will do other than maybe splint it to stabilize it a few weeks as needed. Do they make special epoxy for this? I guess as long as they don't want to do a river table I should be okay.
Speaking of epoxy, don't let them do this with your hand!
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WV Sawmiller, This past school year (before closing due to the virus) I was a substitute teacher for a local high school. One of the classes I subbed is the modern version of the shop class, now Construction Technology, which teaches the students the use of hand and power tools. One of the main points is always safety.
So the topic of when and when not to wear gloves while working in the shop is covered for each and every application. They have a Stop Saw in their shop and we have demonstrated its safety on a hot dog, but we have yet to see it work on a real finger. And I hope that never happens, but it is nice to know it would work to keep the student (and teachers) safe.
I hope all works out well for your fingers.
Quote from: RichTired on June 04, 2020, 11:38:04 AM
WV Sawmiller, This past school year (before closing due to the virus) I was a substitute teacher for a local high school. One of the classes I subbed is the modern version of the shop class, now Construction Technology, which teaches the students the use of hand and power tools. One of the main points is always safety.
So the topic of when and when not to wear gloves while working in the shop is covered for each and every application. They have a Stop Saw in their shop and we have demonstrated its safety on a hot dog, but we have yet to see it work on a real finger. And I hope that never happens, but it is nice to know it would work to keep the student (and teachers) safe.
I hope all works out well for your fingers.
I saw a video a while back where the owner of the Saw Stop company actually stuck his finger into the running saw with the stop technology. Just a slight nick and no blood albeit he did it very slowly and not like pushing a board through. Pretty awesome demonstration.
Wow :o I'd say you were pretty lucky. Hoping you have a speedy recovery. So we can keep up to your daily doings. Play Safe
I was just going to mention the SawStop table saw, their demonstration uses a hot dog to simulate a finger. The website says the blade carries any electric signal, and as soon as it makes contact with the body, an aluminum brake stops the blade in 5 milliseconds, and shuts off the power to the motor. I hope everything heals up good WV.
Howard, I hate that you got your fingers tangled up in the table saw. The table saw is the heart of the woodworking shop but it will bite even the most experienced if given the chance - it has no loyalty to its operator and may even have some contempt. I hope your fingers heal quickly and completely.
During the dry, winter months my hands get dry, crack and sometimes bleed (especially when I used to work quite a bit with fiberglass and cleaned resin off of my hands using acetone -stoopid, I know). The bag balm, as greasy as it is, makes my hands feel better. I have heard some folks pee on their feet to help with the fungus. I am not sure how appropriate that would be for the fungus on your hands but...
Oh man! You know I did not create this thread for you guys to outdo me.
When I saw that glove, I was surprised to see gauze in the shape of 5 normal length fingers. Glad it was not worse. I was told not use gloves years ago, but I used to. I've not had a real injury on the TS other than hit in the gut with a small piece. Still, 2 years ago I invested in a sawstop to prevent what seemed would be inevitable at some point. I'm glad I bought before I became afraid of the saw. The great thing is that it's an awesome tablesaw with 3hp. I accidentally tested the safety system with my miter gauge and not my fingers. The good news is that it fired just as promised. The bad news it cost me almost $300 for a new cartridge and new dado blade set.
I have the contractor saw version of the sawstop for some reason ::).
If you want to upgrade, you can get close to new price when selling your current saw. Sawstops are not on the resale market much.
Howard, I've been working on a honey-do list the last few days and didn't see this until this morning. I hate that happened and hope you heal quickly and as completely as possible.
That glove gave me a sinking feeling and several horrible images (significantly more horrible than reality) ran through my mind. So glad it wasn't worse.
As a retired voc. ed. guy three machines worried me the most - table saws, jointers and radial saws. Lathes weren't heavily used but were also worrisome for the danger they present. Fortunately, the worst student injury in my shop I ever had to deal with was a cut from a utility knife that required four or five stitches.
My dad was alsso a high school shop teacher and very strict about safety around power tools. He did wing himself once with the jointer fortunately not in front of the class. One faux pas I do remember was his personal radial arm saw, the brake on the motor failed. He couldn't get replacement parts so he left it off. I wasn't allowed to use the tool.
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Anybody want to play Rock, Paper or Scissors?
I went to the ortho doc today and this was the result X 2 weeks when I go back and he will likely put me in a full body cast with my luck. ::)
(Which reminds me of an old USMC family/wife friend who was looking at old family pictures and found one of her dad, a USAF pilot, in a full body cast when he was on active duty. Evidently he was in the cast for nearly a year after a flying accident. All was fine till the lady got to computing the time of the accident and recovery in the body cast then compared it to her birth date. Huummm. Seems there is a lot more you can do in a body cast than most people think. ;))
Doc today confirmed I had several fractures (Cracks?) in the index and second finger. The index finger has no stitches but will finish losing the nail soon. Next finger has 6 stitches and a nail going bye-bye. The ring finger has 5 stitches but no fractures. I think the cast and ace bandage is mostly to keep me from using and bumping the fingers. No individual splints on the fingers.
Stitches out a week from today is current plan. I don't know what the ortho doc is looking for a week after that. Time will tell.
A man, I just hate to see this. I hope you aren't hurting too much. It will be a while before anyone calls you 'lefty', I hope that is your off hand.
That little filtch must have grabbed you more than you first indicated or knew, you got sucked in good.
All you can do is rest up for a bit Howard. This is one of those deals where you have little choice. Either that, or a body cast, just to be safe. Be thankful they didn't do a head x-ray.
OGH,
Actually it is a little uncomfortable but really not painful to speak of. Whether it was shock or something else even the initial pain was not that bad. The ER doc had to give a couple more shots lower on the fingers when stitching but it was almost more of a big bruise than anything else. The fiberglass cast or form under my hand and the ace bandage seems like overkill but probably for the best.
Dang! Adrenaline is a good painkiller.
Well, rest up and take it easy for a few days.
Adrenaline may have kicked in initially but I assure you it is not exciting now. A normal aspirin would pretty much be adequate now.
I did take the 4 - 8' long poplar 4X4's I had in stock with me today and dropped them off at a customer who sells primitive crafts and such. Her husband wanted them for farm table legs. Not a big sale but paid for lunch at DQ while we were there. Kind of like peeing in the ocean during a drought - every little bit helps. ;D
One suggestion I will make for any budding high school shop teachers or supervisors of people working with woodworking or metal working power tools like RAS, table saws, joiners, metal shears, etc is to have your students/employees/co-workers fasten a cardboard tube over their arm from elbow to fingertip and let them wear it an hour or two as an eye opener. Let them try to button their shirt, zip their fly, put on a coat, and similar daily tasks then remind them if they get injured on one of these tools that will be the nature of their life for from a couple of weeks to the rest of their life, depending on how badly they injure themselves. This has definitely been an eye opener and reminder for me.
Hello Howard.
Glad you are mostly in one piece.
Heal up fast.
Rich
Howard that's a great idea!
I teach students to use a fair amount of tools in ag mech class and the table saw is the one that I really dread watching or teaching others to use. I use it for ripping, cutting coves, bevels, miters, dados, circles and just about anything else but it is an unforgiving machine.
Several years ago I was having the students rip a piece of plywood just to get used to using the saw with the fence. There was a girl in the class who, right near the end of the cut, quit holding the roughly 2'x2' piece up against the fence. It kicked back, missed her and knocked the heck out of me. I insisted she do the cut again and this time do it properly. She did it exactly the same and I got smacked again. There were 20 or so classmates watching and learning unintended lessons and probably vocabulary. I guess I would have qualified for doing something dumb that day, twice.
Not having the use of a hand will certainly give you a different perspective. I have been impressed that you have been able to make good posts with one hand typing (Howard).
A very good friend of mine cut most of his right hand off in a meat slicer while working in a grocery store when he was home on leave when in the Air Force. The military had typing training books for one handed typists. He told the instructor that he must have gotten the wrong one because it was for a right handed typist. The instructor turned the book over and the flip side was for left handed aspiring typists. He mentioned that he felt a little dumb at that point.
A technique I started when I was in USMC and followed through my follow-on career was any time one of my troops or employees was injured or had a near miss I got the team together very soon thereafter and had the troop or employee give a safety class to his teammates explaining 1)What happened 2) Why? 3) What made it worse? 4) What helped lesson the injury (PPE, etc) 5) How it could have been prevented/Lessons learned.
I found a worker bee speaking in language the rest of the team understood with his arm in a cast or a pull start hat on his head (I.e. Bandages like an eastern turban), visible stitches in his body, etc. had a more lasting impact than me as the OIC/Manager giving the same safety class. I shamefully admit in my current condition I'd have more street credibility than I'd like to admit. ::)
Cavey,
Thanks for the typing compliment but I am mostly a hunt and peck typist and I still have a working thumb on my L hand for the shift key.
you really are a hunt and peck guy if you use your thumb of your left hand for the shift key. Left side of the keyboard or right? :D. I was forced to take typing as a freshman in HS. I argued I did not plan to be a secretary. little did I know, that is half what I do as a doc. :)
Glad you got to keep your hand. This month i had one friend drop a 14b axle onto his hand, crushing the pinky and cutting 3 other tendons.. And another who had a plunge router get away and router the tendon out of his dominant thumb.
Not good folks. Be careful.
That is another tool that requires undivided attention.
I was taught "The tool is always watching you". Some I think with malicious intent.
Getting thumped like that, Howard look at the x-ray next time closely. if the tips of any of the fingertip bones are broken check closely to see that those little pieces are in contact and knitting. They can be tough.
After confirmation that we are indeed flightless I spent 9 months with both arms in casts. As the doc was putting them on he said "I'd be thinking about that next trip to the bathroom". That did not improve my day :D
Yeah, not being able to use the dominant hand in the bathroom is bad, but 2 hands.....
remember not to try to clean the grass from a mower shoot with the motor, let alone the blades running. see one a week or so all summer long. lots of bone fragments and able to tell the weather changes coming for a lifetime :)
Doc,
Unfortunately one of my projects is to replace a spindle on my 54" mower deck. I broke it last time I mowed and ordered/received the replacement parts now can't put them on and the yard is beginning to look like a hay field. I thought about getting out the push mower yesterday but figured that would get the ace bandage and maybe the dressing sweaty so I figured I could wait.
I have a great x-ray to make you feel better about you condition, but I do not want to risk a privacy concern. :)
I never had a shop teacher that didn't have very significant scars or missing body parts from at least one tool in the shop.
Yes Howard it kinda gets your attention.
The tool I remember being most respectful of was the handheld router, we had an idiot showing off, that was lucky the worst injury he got was his pride. I thought for sure it was going straight into his guts.
Those shop programs are long gone from the high schools here. School boards are just not willing to take on the liability that comes with the current litigious world we live in. It's too bad. Learning how to work safely is a benefit that pays off for the rest of life. Avoiding the lessons that teach that is a detriment for the rest of life.
The greatest gift my father ever gave me was instilling safe habits working in the shop or with farm equipment. Those lessons got ingrained at an early age and have kept me intact for a long time. I am considering replacing the Powermatic with a Sawstop though. Just a little insurance policy as I get older. Besides the safety aspect, they did a really good job with that saw and it has a lot of improvements over the traditional table saw design.
Glad you came out as well as you did, WV. I hope you heal up quickly.
My most feared shop tool was Cowboy Bob. He wasn't working unless he was bleeding. May God rest his soul. :)
:D That is funny. For a long time I figured if I wasn't bruised or bleeding I wasn't working hard enough. @doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I worked as a lawn and garden mechanic for years, I always cringed when equipment came in the shop with safety devices deliberately disabled. Eventually we would not work on the unit unless we could fix them but many times the customer refused, he was the only one using it and he knew what he was doing. ::) The worst were belt covers and seat switches.
When I took metal and wood shop in school we had to go to the employment office and take a mechanical aptitude test before we could take the classes , my senior year they decided that was discrimination,
Wow the chuck keys started then , along with hair being ripped out by about every piece of equipment in the shop . I really felt for long time shop teacher Elmo Scott , he resigned that same year .
As far as I know before this bug hit and the local high school closed they were still teaching shop here or industrial arts or whatever the new term is. The kids would build a small house on big metal I-beams that could be transported and reassembled. When finished they'd auction it off and start on the next one. They learned carpentry, plumbing, electrical, roofing, etc and I thought was great practical experience. We have had trouble keeping shop teachers lately. One quit a few years ago 6 weeks before school end. The sub was not certified in shop so she could not let them use the tools. I talked with her and she set it up for me to bring the mill and saw a few logs and we had a real good time at it,
How dumb do we have to be to play?
YouTube (https://youtu.be/vVYZUOXfULM)
Thats right up there with a high lift jack handle.
I noticed that you got your face right in there in the "proper" position before you let the handle go.
I wated to punch back but I still have a 6x12x16 ridge beam to hoist.
Now where is that FF policy on ladders again? :D Glad not to see anyone taking a tumble. whiteflag_smiley
Don't get mad at me. I am not being a safety nazi, its just that I noticed the rear left tire [EDIT: that should say rear right) on your ATV looks pretty low. You might want to check on that. ;D :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on June 08, 2020, 09:29:39 PM
Now where is that FF policy on ladders again? :D Glad not to see anyone taking a tumble. whiteflag_smiley
Right, I was waiting for a ladder to fall and totally missed the winch handle until I watched it again. Jeff, that qualifies for sure. Ouch.
Ouch!!! Everything was looking good until that in the video. I bet you had a few words come out. Lucky! Could have been worse. You can take it your a lean mean dude now after all the weight you lost 👍
I inadvertently practiced sho Shi Ban on a mostly firewood log pile. A spark blew out of my waste barrel that I burned last Thursday. The wind was really bad out of the South and it was hot. I drove by the pile on my way to the office after eating lunch around 1:00 didn't smell anything hot or see any smoke from the barrel. Was by it multiple times the day before never noticed anything. Son got home from work about 5:00 and called to ask me if that pile was supposed to be burning. I beat it out of the office and home. Called the fire in told the dispatch it was just a pile of firewood logs and nothing was in trouble they sent a couple trucks out any way.
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I have a hydrant not far from there, and had got hose strung saved, some logs, a spruce and some red cedar, it messed up a bunch of this year's firewood, but It could have been much worse! I should've checked that barrel over the weekend and made sure it was burnt out, so my bad. I suppose the double vortex design ;D would've burnt it more efficiently. It was a long evening after it got mostly out I started cleaning up. Put a sprinkler on the pile over night for good measure. I 've got a few logs to fish out of the pond but hey a bath was a good way to put them out. The local fire department brought the grass fire truck out and a couple new volunteers got some live fire hose training. So some good came of it. I lost some fire wood and some barn beams I had just stashed there but nothing all that important. Maybe I'll build a burnt edge bench or two. ::)
Jeff's video really made me cringe, looked like the hoist system was working well, to a point.
Woodpiles can be a real pain to put out, I imagine a log pile is only slightly easier. We had a structure fire one time on a remote house, the house was in the foundation by the time it was called in, so not much to save there, but protect the adjacent house (the wood siding was starting to steam, then smoke, the windows had already cracked, once we had that under control we realized the was about 5 cords of wood stacked behind the house that was now gone and the radiant heat had started that burning. There was still a very dangerous 3 story chimney standing by itself so accessing the woodpile was a hazard and the pile took a long time to pull apart and get to it all and get it out (we don't like going back for re-kindles). I think we worked as hard on that woodpile as we did on everything else, including chopping through the ice to get water from their pond.
Glad all you lost was a little wood and an evening. That is a blessing.
By the way, when I ran burn barrels (illegal here now) I would always throw a piece of steel window screening over the top of the barrel when I was done. I thought it would keep the fly ash down and in the barrel.
Lots of green grass will slow down a fire.
Yes to that had my tractors pto been working right I would have at least had windrows of hay there probably bales much more flammable than green brome. It was due to cut last week.
Glad to here you caught it. It's a good it wasn't in the fall
Yep, good thing that grass was green or it would have been a lot more exciting for you and for the new firefighters. Piles of burning anything are always a challenge. Long time ago we went to a fire at a pallet yard. There was a mountain of mulched wood that had to be 80' tall all on fire.
Quote from: Jeff on June 08, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
How dumb do we have to be to play?
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When you got hit was that the tension on the rope before it engaged in the cog ? Hope your feeling better 👍
@Jeff (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1) , you are a bad influence. ;D I put a too large log on the mill too late in the day and nearly killed myself getting it turned right and the first side opened. I was still sucking air and soaked with sweat when I decided to shut down for the day. As I was pulling the tarp over it, the tarp hooked on the winch handle and in my state of exhaustion I just gave the handle a whack to swing it downt to the low position. It came around and managed to find my chin. Now I'm sweating heavy and sucking wind AND can't see straight. :D
I'd like to say it's your fault, but I know better.
"You'll have some of that on these big jobs"
Had a nurse one time doing something, she saw me wince and said "I didn't feel a thing" perfect delivery and cracked me up :D
Okay - a gory update. Went to see my PA today to get the stitches out and when she looked at the injured digits she decided it was too early to take them out. It has been 9 days today since the injury. I was wondering if it wasn't a little early. She set me up an appointment to come back Tuesday. The middle finger is still showing some dead fish color from infection. She gave me a shot of antibiotic and oral antibiotic for a week. She said to remove the bandages, wash it good with soap and water, let it air out an hour or so then redress it pretty much as before. I'm thinking the fingernail on the middle finger is not the total loss I expected. May actually retain the left half of the one on my index fingers.
I still can't close my fingers but some of that may be from the swelling and being immobilized for over a week. I know there are worse things but I would not wish this on anyone. In all honesty the pain has been relatively minimal. Maybe I suffer from long term shock syndrome. ???
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Yeah, I see her concerns. I am no Doc, but it looks like that needs to dry up a bit. That soft white skin is not ready. I think it might not be getting enough air on a daily basis. But heck, with some airing out I bet it is good to go in a day or two. Just keep that puppy clean. I know, waiting sucks.
My finger burn finally healed up a few days ago from the secondary cut I added. I am in good shape now, you will be in better shape in a few days. Did I mention you should just keep it clean? I think, as bad as it may look, you got really lucky.
The best part for me is being able to remove the bandage and gently wash it good with soap and warm water then I leave it open to the air 30-45 minutes then bandage and splint it again. Hopefully that is going to be enough drying time. I guess we will see tomorrow night how much difference it made.
H2O2 is your friend. Pour or liberally dab onto your problem areas. Might sting a bit, but it will work on the dead stuff and sanitize a bit. Dab it dry, then let it breath until it dries for a while. Works for me on damp wounds (not a doctor, and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn recently). Hope you get healed up soon.
I agree on letting it dry out. exposed to air is not dangerous, and did not cause infection. the white skin may be macerated (think wrinkled skin soaking in the bath tub) peroxide is good for removing blood and scab. if the one wound is open (looks like the stitches pulled out) you do not want it in the wound as it denatures protein and can damage good tissue. part of the finger flexion is swelling and if you try too hard it can open up the lacerations. stitches come out usually in 10 days, and beyond that they are usually not doing much. next week they could take them out, and then reinforce with steri strips maybe. If one opens up, it will heal by secondary intention (scar in) and that can reduce function in a finger. so be patient and let it air out a little more. that's my 200 bucks worth (inflated from the usual 2 cents) :) :) :)
Did not look long at the picture, I will let others do that. :) I do want to wish you luck.
In a dumb move, not paying attention moving logs with the tractor, I backed into the corner of my lumber building hitting it on the corner with the box blade :-\. Hurt my feelings more than it hurt the building.
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Ah, that will buff right out. ;D Or you could plant a bush there so you don't have to see it.
:) I was amazed in February when I was there that it wasn't dented.
Quote from: WDH on June 13, 2020, 06:51:24 AM
In a dumb move, not paying attention moving logs with the tractor, I backed into the corner of my lumber building hitting it on the corner with the box blade :-\. Hurt my feelings more than it hurt the building.
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Now that you baptized it, you will probably never hit it again. :)
WV, did they say anything about possible tendon damage on that middle finger? Yeah, I would say that's getting too wet. Are you working and getting sweaty. Maybe you need more couch/recliner time.
Danny, the corner of my fenced yard looks just like the corner of yer building. My old tractor had clutch issues and even though I pressed the clutch it kept on driving and the blade snagged the post. A new corner trim piece would probably fix most of the damage.
@firefighter ontheside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921) ,
The PA did not mention any tendon damage. I think it looks better today after a little drying time last night. I showered and washed it good a while ago and am letting it dry another few minutes then I will bandage and splint them for the night. I liberally coat a non-stick pad with triple antibiotic ointment, wrap a few wraps of gauze around it then tape it. Then I put the splint back on and wrap it with an ace bandage. I don't think I ever got the gauze sweaty as I kept it wrapped until last night. I did go push mower the front yard a little last night but immediately came in and showered and washed the fingers, let them dry nearly an hour then bandaged it.
Howard, don't you have a neighbor you could pay to fix your rider? I have several push mowers but they are relegated to recreational purposes only these days.
Danny, I know that dinging your shed hurt your feelings but, probably like a lot of folks on here, I have been operating tractors since I was 10 years old and I still find a way to do things like that. I am glad you are able to get out and do stuff.
After yesterday and the night before, I have black fingernails on both hands.
Cavey,
Thanks for the concern.
I could either fix it or get my son to fix it (It is just removing 4 bolts in the spindle, putting a new one back then putting the blade on, and the belt then tightening the tension spring and ready to go - the spring I could not do now) but with the slopes and creek bank/drop-offs I mow I feel safer push mowing it myself till I have 2 working hands. I asked my PA yesterday about the vibration from the mower and she said she did not see where it would bother the fractured fingers which was my concern as the tip are pretty well protected with the bandages and the split. I don't want to try to run a weedeater yet and with the push mower I can get closer to the tight spots. I did not run a tank of gas through the push mower so it was not an extended session. I figured maybe an hour a day at sunset then go grab a shower, air out the stitches for an hour and re-bandage and re-splint.
It's enough to make a person wonder if we own property or if it owns us.
Quote from: stanwelch on June 13, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
:) I was amazed in February when I was there that it wasn't dented.
I guess that you did not see the holes in the other end where I punched through with the tractor forks :-\.
:D I didn't see the other damage. :) What else are you not telling me?
Boy, I did a dumb one on Friday afternoon. The AC on the tractor wasn't working the best, and decided I should add a can of 134. Took the cap off the compressor, and was looking to see if that was the right place to connect my hose, and touched the back of my left hand on the back of the fan. The noise was like buzz for just a second or so, got the hand away, dropped and lost the cap, and was hoping the hand was not too badly damaged, and went ahead and put a can of freon in. Much cooler AC. Put the cold can against my wound, and it froze to it. Was so sore that evening, when I went to bed, couldn't find a place to put the hand without it hurting. Much better the next morning. And it improved all day Saturday. I can make a fist today.
Ouch. You didn't put your tongue on there did ya?
No, didn't put my tongue on it. The can warmed up when it was empty. Tractor was a lot more pleasant to run with just one can added.
I went in this afternoon and the nurse practitioner on duty took out the stitches. A couple were buried pretty deep and she struggled a little to get them pulled up enough to cut then pull out. Surprisingly, to me anyway, there was more itching than pain associated with removing them. She said everything looked good and complimented the ER doc for good tight stitches to close the wound tightly. She says I can leave it open to the air at home but suggested I cover them before going out where there is more risk to getting crud in the wound to encourage more infection. Now I am just hoping the ortho doc tells me Friday I can do away with the splint.
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Won't win any beauty contests but sure looks lots better than it did 13 days ago. Looks like I will lose about 1/3 of the nail off the index finger instead of the whole nail like I expected. The nail on the middle finger seems intact and the bubble/blister looking lump is where the ER doc pulled the loose skin over an open cut and it will sluff off or be absorbed I gather. I still can't bend them far but don't want to try much more till the ortho doc says okay.
Looking better for sure.
the nail should re-grow, you would have never won a beauty contest anyway! a little scratch on the finger is a real pain in the ash! :D :D :D
Now Doc, that wasn't very nice. >:( I think we need to send you back to take some "Remedial Bedside Manners Classes." :D
most of my older patients (you qualify) look at me then laugh and appreciate my "bedside manner". hope you do well old man! :D
Had to have several large trees removed adjacent to the powerline. One really big oak was partially uprooted and hung up in a couple of other trees and hanging over my powerline. Had to be removed from the top down. I told the tree service that I would clean up. So I was moving a big load of limbs on the forks with the tractor when one pretty nice sized limb fell out of the load right in front of the tractor. The little voice on my left shoulder said, "You should stop the tractor, get off, and drag that limb out of the way." The little voice on the right shoulder said, "Naw, just run over it, it will not be a problem." Well, so much for the old saying, "Discretion is the better part of valor."
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So much for saving money by doing the clean up myself :-\. "Stupid is as stupid does".
Yeah, the Kubota hydraulic filters are pretty exposed. Some folks make guards to go,around them.
They don't give that kubota fluid away either, and I wouldn't dare mix something else in with it. Have heard reports of bad things happening when you do. Banjo
From the looks of that fluid it was contaminated with water and needed replacing.....badly. One place where it usually enters is a cracked gear shift.
Than with the 2 dealers that I went to, they would not have the filter in stock and I would be down a week waiting for parts. ::) ::) :o :o >:( >:( Real >:( >:(
Quote from: Magicman on June 16, 2020, 10:01:00 PM
From the looks of that fluid it was contaminated with water and needed replacing.....badly. One place where it usually enters is a cracked gear shift.
MM is on the money here Danny.
Sometimes the little boo-boo reveals a potentially big crap fest coming your way.
Those little voices were your best friends!
Best not use that machine again till you've changed oil and filters, plus figured out where the water is coming from.
That might be water contamination but may also be air in the fluid from it still running while low on fluid.
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Moose is right. There was no water contamination. I collected most of the fluid, that which did not leak out until I got a bucket under it, and the fluid was good. However, in my haste, the bucket was not clean so I did replace the fluid with new fluid, and Banjo is correct, Kubota is proud of their fluid.
Note to self: Listen to the little voice on the left and ignore the one on the right :).
Shortly after I got my new to me Kubota, I bought a filter to change the fluid. Then I found out how expensive the super udt was and decided I didn't need to change it yet. I will soon though.
Look at the specs on your oil container, and check to see if there is another fluid that meets the specs, and saves money. I bought NAPA fluid this year. They have a sale in the spring on oil and filters.
I did the same thing on my 4701 except it broke the housing where the filter screwed on had to replace it along with fluid and filters.
Well, its been 4 weeks and 4 hours since I stuck my paw in my table saw. Here is a before - actual scene at the ER my wife took and later sent me and not previously posted.
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Below is an after/current view. There is still a little infection, apparently, in my middle finger, I lost about 1/3 of the nail on my index finger which is also still very stiff (Feels like a badly jammed finger from a baseball/softball incident). I am doing Physical Therapy 2-3 times a week and still do not have very much grip strength in my left hand and making and maintaining a fist is very difficult. It gets a little better every day but I have every expectation I will eventually make a complete recovery.
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I will say it makes me very nervous now every time I use the table saw.
Glad your healing up. Be careful 👍
I like the second picture better than the first!
Glad you are getting better.
Glad it is healing nicely. That very nervous feeling can be dangerous, subject to flinch or pull back when consistent feed and pressure are needed, just be aware. I do listen to it though, if something doesn't feel right stop and figure out a way to jig it so that you are out of harm's way. I've taken a whole day to make and set up wood or plastic pressure fingers and guides to run small stock through a machine, which is a small amount of time compared to getting chewed on.
My dumb move last week was getting home worn out and not unloading the back of the truck, which was pointed downhill and the drains were plugged. When I wandered by and looked in a couple of days later my straps, logrite, and chainsaw were completely under water. Pulled the plug and blew water out of the cylinder, brake cleaner as that was the best quick dry stuff I had on hand, stripped the cover and blew it all out good then a few days of drying out, seems to be ok but dumb!
Looks good. Glad you have all your fingers. Have a good 4th.
Rotating blades and machinery have no conscience.
Glad your hand is improving! I hope the progress continues!
This don't even come close to what you guys have done recently. But I'm right there with you ...its just in an older post. Something like "Nearly went to the show room". Or something similar. But the other day my blackberrys had come in and I was out there eating my fill.....Have you ever put a nice juicy blackberry in your mouth that had a stink bug on it? It didn't take long to spit it out.🤯
That is an unfortunate situation Banjo. Glad you're OK.
I'm kinda curious though. What do stink bugs taste like? Never got around to tasting one myself. :o
I would definitely put that at the very bottom of my bucket list. It didn't stay long, but taste about like they smell if you mash one. Banjo
It could be they have extraordinary medicinal benefit. Perhaps stink bugs will provide the next breakthrough in drug development. Let us know if you start experiencing any super-powers. :D
Seriously though, I'm sorry you had that happen. It just ain't right.
Seems bugs like blackberries as much as we do.
Your right about that. Since our main crop is done, you really have to be careful eating off the vine. Deb made lots of jam and some jelly...she don't like the seeds. Next will be the muscadines. They are about the size of small marbles right now,. I gave each vine some triple 13 a month ago and yesterday they got one and a half lbs of ammonia nitrate each. Now if I can keep the opossums and raccoons out of them ,we will do good. Banjo
I was feeling my way to the coffeepot a few weeks ago, still half asleep. Poured a cup and took the first sip, hmm something ain't quite right, so of course I took another, Bleeech, I'm wide awake now! The little custard done percolated hisself. I feel your pain Banjo :D
@Banjo picker (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=8028) , i do not know what a muscadine is, but if you eat one off the vine, make sure there is not a opossum or a raccoon, or God forbid both on it! :D :D :D ;) :o :o :o 8) 8) 8)
My blackberries have come in also. Too bad I am still almost 5000 miles away from home. Good crop this year so far. I guess stink bugs are not out in force yet, or my Mom would have made it a point to let me know. She hates them almost as much as I do. The are a few stink-bug-hating threads floating around the forum, but I don't know if anyone else has conducted any taste tests.
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Vitis rotundafolia if I remember correctly. Cultivated they call them scuppernongs - can be black or bronze in color. A thick skinned grape and some can get nearly as big as a golf ball. You can't eat the skin when raw but squeeze out the insides, and cook them and separate the seeds, add to the empty hulls with appropriate amount of sugar and lemon or orange juice (for the acid) and cook till they start to jell and there is nothing better on a hot biscuit. digin_2
The last time I was in Florida was August time frame and they were getting ripe and on the way home I stopped by Poarch Ala across the line and got 35 lbs from a guy and made muscadine hull preserves and if I am not careful they may be a life time supply. :D
Sorry bout the stink bug thing, It was a sympathetic chuckle honestly it was...
In the immortal words of Ray Stevens (A great American) "Its me again, Margaret". No pictures yet, I'll take some tomorrow if I am able to walk, and another Honorable Mention for a Darwin award and another shamefaced post here.
I decided to spray a bunch of asters (We call them stickweeds here and there are several species) in my pasture so I loaded my 15 gallon sprayer in the front basket of my 650 Kawasaki Prairie, mixed and filled it with herbicide and went up to the top side of my pasture and started spraying. I'd run up the slope as far as I almost safely could, spray as far as I could then back down and move over 20-30 ft and repeat. I got all the upper slope above my bench (flat spot in the pasture) then started on the down slope. I sprayed on the down slope, spraying, easing down and repeating until I was about halfway down then went back to the top and moved over 40-50 feet and started down again on a steeper grade. I got hung on a stump at one point, got off and pushed the ATV off and got back on before it got away from me. I went downhill 10-12 feet, stopped, sprayed then started up and either dropped into an unseen hole or hit another stump. The grade was enough this caused the back of the ATV to come up and it flipped throwing me off in front then rolling over my chest then down the hill. It flipped another time or two then landed upright and rolled another 100 yards or so. I could hear it still running then it choked down. I got up and could not identify any critical body parts that were obviously broken. I followed the path of the crushed weeds picking up a pair of gloves and various plastic ATV body parts, mini-air compressor and seat and such. I got to the ATV and found both front tires were flat - maybe just knocked off the rims and a bent left handlebar. The sprayer was still in the basket secured by the winch cable. The wiring was ripped off of the sprayer and the wand looks like a boomerang. I tried the starter and the ATV fired back up. They are tough machines! I walked back up to the start looking for the sprayer cables but did not find them. I came in and got a shower and checked for more damage. I have a small scrape on my head, a scrape and shallow puncture on my left side, hard to lift my arms and an aching chest but way luckier than I should have been. I took an 800 mg ibupropen left over from my last incident and will see how stiff I am in the morning as to whether I want to take John up and get my ATV and take him to the 4 wheeler doc.
WOW. glad you are ok. this one could have been bad. hope you can get out of bed in the am. they are great machines, but are so capable that they can get you in trouble.
I can't believe that you rolled yourself down the mountain. Not good. There are easier ways to get down :).
Sounds like you and the Kawasaki got a little banged up, but both functioning. Seems like both need a little time to mend and then get back on it.
Glad to hear the outcome was some what ok.
Geez Howard you could've been kilt! I am anxious to hear, this morning how you feel. Bet you feel like you'd been run over by a bull. Between the hand and now this, you need a break. The morning after is the telling point. I used to warn all the vehicle accident victims I tended too who refused to go to the hospital to take a careful assessment the next morning of the pains and issues and reconsider the trip. I hope you are feeling better today, but if you don't, reconsider a checking out.
I flipped a good sized garden tractor over backwards on me about 30 years ago. I was stuck under it for a while just holding it back from crushing me with my legs. Nobody around to help get me out. I couldn't push it forward because it was chained to a log behind me, just about the time my legs were calling it quits, I managed to swing it to the side and get out. I couldn't even walk, and crawled to this house. Pretty scary at the time. I hurt for a couple of days.
Just take it easy and be aware of what your body is telling you. Let us know how the morning after feels.
I did the same as OG with a yamaha big bear. Back in Nov 94 only I was going after a log in rough terain. Apr 95 was admitted to hospital for a back op as I couldn't walk anymore. When I tipped to 4 wheeler over I blew the disk out of L4-L5. it's good to go get checked over.
Wow! Glad you are able to share this ... healthy enough! Hope your soreness passes, glad you did not.
Hope you and the 4 wheeler heal quickly. These mountainside terrains can be a pain, literally.
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064)
You are not having good luck these days. Right now I'd say that if something looks iffy, you might want to leave it alone.
Heal soon!
They say bad things come in three's. For your sake I hope not. You need some serious R&R.
I am still stiff and sore but less now than last night. Pretty restless night as hard/impossible to find a comfortable position. Took another 800 mg Ibupropen at 0100. Tried to sneeze while ago which was very painful! Most bruising is in my upper left chest where it rolled over me.
My repair dealer is increasingly unresponsive - has had my wife's ATV 5-6 months and could not give me a definitive answer on the issue and he still has not shipped back the core on a rebuilt motor I had them install last winter. I checked and found another 30 miles away I think I will check. He is a Kawasaki dealer too. He says they are 1-2 weeks out on initial troubleshooting so I will try them.
Well, I better run and will add on more later today.
Given it is 'later today' I hope you have not had a newanew item to share in this thread! Good luck on finding a good/better dealer.
I took it to a dealer 30 miles south of here (Princeton WV). He promises backlog of 1-2 weeks to for troubleshooting then ever how long it takes to get the parts and install them. Mostly it looked like straightening bent racks and such. He said the do replace handlebars due to the risk and liability there which I can understand. We will see.
Hope you are feeling better there Howard. Scary for sure.
Been sorting cows and bulls the past couple of days and had to sort out my teaser bull from the milking herd today. He is a runt and really good natured. Too small to breed anything but he lets me know when one is in heat so we can get her taken care of, just makes life easier. Well, had to kick him out of "his herd" today and put in a clean up bull, so needless to say Doc Holiday was not a happy camper. He was putting on a show, throwing dirt, hollering away, etc so we threw a rope halter on him to lead him off. Well the rodeo began and away he went. He did go into the pasture we needed him in, but now he had on a too large rope halter hanging from his head, and he was not about to be handled again to get it off of him. We tried to catch the little bugger several times and he wanted nothing to do with us. This is a bull that you can walk up to and scratch any part of, basically he is a large dog and about that size, but we took his women from him and he was MAD!
Ok - grab the calf rope and lets get this over with. One of my hired gals roped him by the head and he started to take off so I grabbed the rope, added 260 lbs to his escape load, and there was no way I was letting go. Doc launched me out of the mud hole I was in, so much so that one boot remained behind, and I landed in a series of green, runny, fresh pies, from my head to my stocking foot!!! Didn't notice that detail until we were done with him, which was probably a good thing looking back on it. We all laughed about it as I realized what my face was in, oh well, it happens. Funny thing is that my back has been bothering me the past couple of days but is feeling much better now!!! Must be the sudden acceleration followed by the instant fiber and chlorophyll infusion. Might have to open up a "Unique, Nature Setting, Chiropractic Office", just advise clients to wear old clothes!!
Sounds like you had some fun 😂
Hopefully your healing up👍. When you get your four wheeler back find another way to spray the hills
Remember, you and magic Man are not in a competition.
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)
You big Meany taking his girls away!!! I'd be mad too. :D
Misters Green and Southside:
Howard it is my opinion (and yes it just might be a biased opinion) that you are taking way too many turns on the did something wrong thread. By the way you can have all of my turns as I have no intention of competing with you.
Southside having grown up on a farm I can relate to what you wrote. When animals have adrenaline running it takes more to control them. One of my brothers once cracked the leader of the pack with a ball bat. Thing went smoothly after that.
Hope you had a good shower.
Gerald
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) good to know you are consistent, with BS inside and out! :) glad everyone is ok!
Southside, that is just too funny. :D I am glad your pride was the only thing hurt. You and Howard would make quite a team.
Quote from: sawguy21 on July 10, 2020, 10:53:53 AM
Southside, that is just too funny. :D I am glad your pride was the only thing hurt. You and Howard would make quite a team.
Southside, that is just too funny, I am glad your pride was the only thing hurt.
It probably happened so fast that he is just realizing it happened.
I sure would like to see a video clip of that happening.
GAB
Quote from: Southside on July 09, 2020, 11:08:27 PM
Hope you are feeling better there Howard. Scary for sure.
Been sorting cows and bulls the past couple of days and had to sort out my teaser bull from the milking herd today. He is a runt and really good natured. Too small to breed anything but he lets me know when one is in heat so we can get her taken care of, just makes life easier. Well, had to kick him out of "his herd" today and put in a clean up bull, so needless to say Doc Holiday was not a happy camper. He was putting on a show, throwing dirt, hollering away, etc so we threw a rope halter on him to lead him off. Well the rodeo began and away he went. He did go into the pasture we needed him in, but now he had on a too large rope halter hanging from his head, and he was not about to be handled again to get it off of him. We tried to catch the little bugger several times and he wanted nothing to do with us. This is a bull that you can walk up to and scratch any part of, basically he is a large dog and about that size, but we took his women from him and he was MAD!
Ok - grab the calf rope and lets get this over with. One of my hired gals roped him by the head and he started to take off so I grabbed the rope, added 260 lbs to his escape load, and there was no way I was letting go. Doc launched me out of the mud hole I was in, so much so that one boot remained behind, and I landed in a series of green, runny, fresh pies, from my head to my stocking foot!!! Didn't notice that detail until we were done with him, which was probably a good thing looking back on it. We all laughed about it as I realized what my face was in, oh well, it happens. Funny thing is that my back has been bothering me the past couple of days but is feeling much better now!!! Must be the sudden acceleration followed by the instant fiber and chlorophyll infusion. Might have to open up a "Unique, Nature Setting, Chiropractic Office", just advise clients to wear old clothes!!
Sorry I missed out on the fun.
Wud
I'm sitting here picturing a lonely boot stuck in the mud.
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) ,
That's funny when it is somebody else. We had a big Holstein yearling one year who went to breed our milk cow and missed and caused himself irreparable damage (apparently this happens more often than you think as I've seen them come though the cattle auctions and the auctioneer would say "You're buying this one for meat not as a stock bull"). We were shooting him up with a 12 gauge needle full of penicillin and I was working the needle. My younger but larger brother was going to hold him. I told him he better tie the bull to a nearby pine tree but David was pretty stout and said he could hold him. The bull was laying down as he did not stand for long periods of time and had horns about 4" sticking out the side of his head for convenient handles so David grabbed them. I popped the bull in the rump with that needle and he came up from there with my brother centered on those horns and scrubbed his back on a low limb several times till he fell off then David circled the tree on all fours with the bull nudging him along like a rodeo bull with a clown in a barrel. My dad and I were standing there laughing as it was funny to us at the time. Less so for my brother but he survived.
My ortho doc visit today went well and he said I was way ahead of where he had expected me to be at this point. One more visit in a month and hopefully I will be done.
did you show him the go pro video of your ATV incident? :D
All it showed was the sky going around in circles :D.
If you guys knew how bad it hurts right now for me to laugh or cough or sneeze or hiccup you'd be nicer to me. ??? Well, knowing you guys - probably not. ::) I do think about the time I offered to send Paul Case a set of chopsticks when he cut his thumb off. I guess its true what Mom used to say "God will get you for that."
Quote from: Wudman on July 10, 2020, 12:06:46 PMSorry I missed out on the fun. Wud
Oh trust me, I saved some fun for when you get here. ;D
So apparently a photo of the event exists! At least part of it. Here is the defeated Doc Holiday and his conquerer Kristina, I am at the end of my rope just out of the picture.
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You know if you take your backhoe and dig a pit and put the cow's feed in a bucket at the bottom so she goes down there to feed Doc Holiday may be able to consummate the act with Big Nose Kate and you can get your boot back. Hey, it works with big tall mares and short donkeys for mule raising. :D
That's awesome. Cute little guy
Southside,
I did not laugh too hard. The trip back to the boot must have been kinda anti climatic after the pull through the cow pie.
My dumb thing fortunately did not cause blood letting or injury! I should have known better though.
So recently I had hydraulic hoses made for my grapple. The old ones were cracking, and I had a leak near the cylinder and decided time to replace the hoses. I installed the new ones and used it for the first time under load yesterday, Friday. I was moving some stumps and brush piles. Near the end of my task the grapple would not close. I pulled the tractor in the barn to get out of the sun. I tried to operate the grapple and saw hydraulic fluid spraying, but the grapple did not budge.
After determining the line that failed I disconnected the line coupling from the tractor and removed the grapple from the tractor via the quick attach. With the tractor out of the way I thought this will be simple. I removed the piece of fire hose protecting the lines and the cover over the cylinder so I could unscrew the hose. Well as I mentioned the grapple would not close. However, when you unscrew the connector from the cylinder thus allowing the fluid to escape, which is under the pressure from the weight of the gripping claw, it does! I had a nice hydraulic fluid shower. Shorts, boots, legs, and lower part of my shirt were soaked. Dumb! Off to the nearby creek with some Dawn soap to get most of the mess off. Bagged the clothes for the trip home. We were in Va. and home is Charlotte NC area currently.
To help end the day right on the way home it rained most of the way. We reached the 485 loop around Charlotte and had a flat on driver rear of the truck. This was about 9 pm in the rain with the 3 lanes of traffic and I pulled over just of the end of a merging ramp. The actual tire changing was not bad, but it took much longer than necessary to get the tire to drop from under the truck. The tub that helps guide the rod end to couple with the mechanism that lowers the tire had come loose. So up under the rear of the truck I go. Did I mention the rain? I manipulated the tube finally into position so I could get the rod on the lowering mechanism and lowered the tire. Mean while my loving bride was freaking out over the rain, dark, traffic whizzing by and merging. Freaking out may be strong, she was genuinely concerned for my well-being.
All good now! made it home and had a nice warm shower. Sitting here visiting the forum with adult beverage in hand.
Chris Jim,
The clothesline behind Ms Kristina needs to be re-hung.
That's just short cow fence.
Quote from: Nebraska on July 11, 2020, 07:39:24 AM
That's just short cow fence.
For short cows........
The roped bull reminds me of the dumb thing I did a few weeks ago. I wanted to set up some temporary fencing so that I could have my goats do some brush clearing. I decided to get some orange construction fencing and some t posts. I put it up and connected to some of my other existing fences. Well the goats are smart enough to know where they should try to escape, but not smart enough to not get stuck in the fence. I heard them calling frantically and knew something was wrong. I found them both caught in the fencing. If you've ever caught a northern pike on a big lure with treble hooks and then used a net to boat the fish, you know how the fish will roll up in the net and get all the hooks hopelessly tangled in the net. Well, that's what goats with big horns are like in the orange fence. I haven't tried it again. I will, but with more thought.
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Quote from: samandothers on July 11, 2020, 12:15:28 AMAfter determining the line that failed I disconnected the line coupling from the tractor and removed the grapple from the tractor via the quick attach. With the tractor out of the way I thought this will be simple. I removed the piece of fire hose protecting the lines and the cover over the cylinder so I could unscrew the hose. Well as I mentioned the grapple would not close. However, when you unscrew the connector from the cylinder thus allowing the fluid to escape, which is under the pressure from the weight of the gripping claw, it does! I had a nice hydraulic fluid shower. Shorts, boots, legs, and lower part of my shirt were soaked. Dumb! Off to the nearby creek with some Dawn soap to get most of the mess off. Bagged the clothes for the trip home. We were in Va. and home is Charlotte NC area currently.
That's as funny as my hydraulic hose failure years ago as a diesel mechanic...The owner of the ag equipment shop asked me to demonstrate the new Kubota 25 hp tractor and loader to a customer. He is standing there in his beautiful western suit and boots and explaining all the features to the customer while I am operating the loader. One of the hoses burst on the loader and you guessed it...my boss in his nice suit was drenched in oil. The customer thought it was a hoot and laughed his as_ off! I think he ended up buying the tractor too (after the hose was replaced).
You can change tires a lot faster if you throw a battery powered impact in your tool kit. I picked up the ryobi and it came with a handy little air compressor for $99.00. Came in handy for me! Treat those hydraulic lines like a poisonous snake. They can inject oil thru your skin and if that oil is hot burn the heck out of you.
Everyone take care.
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EOTE,
At least my clothes were work shorts and shirt! I had to snicker at myself for not being up wind of the fitting. IF there happens to be a next time I hope I remember this experience.
richhiway,
Fortunately I had a good cross style wrench in the truck that worked well, and the nuts were not overly tight. My biggest issue and time waster was trying to get the spare out from under the truck. I will take a look at the tube that goes over the raising and lowering mechanism to what is up with it.
Quote from: samandothers on July 11, 2020, 04:08:10 PMFortunately I had a good cross style wrench in the truck that worked well, and the nuts were not overly tight. My biggest issue and time waster was trying to get the spare out from under the truck. I will take a look at the tube that goes over the raising and lowering mechanism to what is up with it.
It's best to practice lowering that spare the driveway once in a while.
I have an F350 and went to rotate tires couldnt get the spare down. Extension rod and adapter just wouldnt grab anything. Squirted quite a bit of PB blaster down the tube. Shone a light in there looked like a rubber bushing thought maybe something in there went bad.
I was sort of fuzzy mentally about what was supposed to be in the tube, and had had enough, so cut the cable to get the spare off. Then pulled off the plastic tube. Some stuff fell out but didnt take notice since it was raining rust on me anyway, so proceeded to undo the winch to have a look at it.
Lying there on the ground I slowly started getting that feeling I was about to learn something. This feeling turned into the realization that the acorn under my head sort of looked like the rubber I saw when I shone the flashlight down the tube. Picked it up and sure enough it was soaked with PB blaster. DANG if a chipmunk hadn't stored his goodies down that tube. :D :D :D
I guess cutting off the winch cable qualifies as dumb, but it wasnt today. Hope that's ok.
Seems like I really haven't had a day if I did nothing wrong. :-\
Luckily while on side of the road I was able to shine a light down in the tube to see well enough that the end of the tube was moving. I continued to fiddle with it until the rod end engaged the drive.
I looked today after a trip to the tire shop and found where the tube connected to the wench over the square drive head had come loose and was free to move around. The end had two plastic snaps that engage the wench. I don't have much confidence it will remain snapped. Hopefully next time I'll remember how to over come the issue. If it had been full of rodent dinner I would have had an issue!
I shared with both my kids what happened and gave them a heads up to have a good headlamp in their vehicle so they can be hands free and not rely on a cell phone flashlight. Also suggested they do a trial run on their trucks.
Not sure why the crazy font... when I cut or paste some stuff this occasionally happens.
I wonder how many of us have gotten mad at a spare and just cut the cable off so we could get going. I've been there.
Quote from: Nebraska on July 12, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
I wonder how many of us have gotten mad at a spare and just cut the cable off so we could get going. I've been there.
So have I. A 2003 silverado.
GAB
2001 Suburban, 06 Yukon. I should check my pickup 2011, and see if it's working. Haven't needed it yet....
Quote from: GAB on July 12, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Nebraska on July 12, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
I wonder how many of us have gotten mad at a spare and just cut the cable off so we could get going. I've been there.
So have I. A 2003 silverado.
GAB
😂😂 Yep! 2001 suburban blew a tire several years ago and had to cut the spare tire cable (Dewalt oscillating tool with carbide cutter worked pretty good) 😂
Guys at MDOT cut one off our pickups, because they didn't know there was a little key gizmo that had to go on the end of the jack rod. It was in the glove box in a plastic bag. Tim
stringing extension cord for light by sawmill yesterday saw a wasp nest under edge of roof of polebarn. Decided to take care of it this morning. Got out old can of spray and it didnt have much pressure so I got out a stepladder to get close so spray would reach. Close enough one got me on right hand ring finger. sprayed nest and stepladder tiped over. Had a good handhold on 2x12 between poles and was able to get foot behind pole and another on tipped ladder. got down with only a lightly skinned knuckel.
Remember the Forestry Forum rules concerning LADDERS!
You got lucky!
Glad to hear it wasn't any worse!
Thank you for the baton pass! I have carried it long enough and far enough lately. :D
Sorry you got dinged up and glad it was not worse. I find a leaf blower works could to locate and defend yourself against wasps.
I lost my sawmill key today. Only one that I had :). How careless and stupid. Now I am down and cannot saw.
Okay, I'm beginning to feel Murphy sneaking around! I've been relatively dumb stuff free for too long! On top of that I'm launching a boat and trailering it at least a couple times every week. So those of you who understand, pray for me!
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) is it a "real" key or one of the "one size fits all" small engine keys? can you run a jumper to run, and use a screwdriver to start in the mean time?
Quote from: WDH on July 17, 2020, 09:22:10 PM
I lost my sawmill key today. Only one that I had :). How careless and stupid. Now I am down and cannot saw.
Oh yes you can. If necessary hot wire and away you go
Quote from: SawyerTed on July 17, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
Okay, I'm beginning to feel Murphy sneaking around! I've been relatively dumb stuff free for too long! On top of that I'm launching a boat and trailering it at least a couple times every week. So those of you who understand, pray for me!
All I'm gonna say is don't forget the plug :D
My last few weeks have been involved in saving money during this strange time. The Honda threw an engine light and code and was running, if it can be called that, very rough. The code said "leaking intake gasket" which is also code for the much more common ailment on that engine "you just burned an exhaust valve". So $200 of gaskets, a new valve and several days of digging the head out and 6 slightly leaky but tolerable exhaust valves. I lapped and got everything snugged up, only misaligned the cams once and had to do that alignment again. The thing was built by children with tiny contortionist hands, buttoned up and ran, exactly the same. Well dang, a throttle position sensor can do that, Honda in its infinite wisdom used breakaway screws on that to hopefully make you buy a whole new manifold, that ain't happening, so drilled/ground them off and replaced, and it ran exactly the same, DANG!, well O2 sensors, disassemble half of console to get to the connector, nope! The latest round of reloading the parts canon, new distributor arrived yesterday, the current one is only about 5000 miles old but new electrical parts have been consistently inconsistent the last few years... here goes nothing. Glad I'm saving all this money :D.
If anyone can find a key, it's Danny! smiley_guitarist smiley_guitarist
Quote from: SawyerTed on July 17, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
Okay, I'm beginning to feel Murphy sneaking around! I've been relatively dumb stuff free for too long! On top of that I'm launching a boat and trailering it at least a couple times every week. So those of you who understand, pray for me!
Long time age we put the boat in the water had a beer cooked hot dogs and berggers the boat was full of water it helps if you put the plug in first
WDH perhaps the key from your lawnmower would fit......or maybe you just want the weekend off.
Murphy,
There is a guy that launched his boat at the local park and then pulled his Bronco and trailer up on to the ramp and went for a boat ride, when he returned to the ramp his Bronco and trailer was gone and just as he was thinking someone stole his vehicle he hit something with the boat motor and thought that was odd I've never hit a rock here before and why are their lights under the water?
Quote from: WDH on July 17, 2020, 09:22:10 PM
I lost my sawmill key today. Only one that I had :). How careless and stupid. Now I am down and cannot saw.
Danny, my 9 year old who has a problem with touching things he shouldnt lost my key a few weeks ago. I looked around a while, but then thought about my zero turn which also has a kohler command engine. The key worked perfectly. Later I talked to Sean about the key and found it on the ground where he had been playing with it.
Quote from: trapper on July 17, 2020, 12:05:15 PM
stringing extension cord for light by sawmill yesterday saw a wasp nest under edge of roof of polebarn. Decided to take care of it this morning. Got out old can of spray and it didnt have much pressure so I got out a stepladder to get close so spray would reach. Close enough one got me on right hand ring finger. sprayed nest and stepladder tiped over. Had a good handhold on 2x12 between poles and was able to get foot behind pole and another on tipped ladder. got down with only a lightly skinned knuckel.
This would have been great video for americas funniest videos.
Quote from: WDH on July 17, 2020, 09:22:10 PM
I lost my sawmill key today. Only one that I had :). How careless and stupid. Now I am down and cannot saw.
Danny:
Check the washer and the dryer.
Just a suggestion!
Gerald
Not that it helps but I keep my keep on my main ring with my truck and house keys so pretty hard to lose. I did break one one time and took my spare to the local hardware and they had a blank to cut a spare. I was surprised but pleased they had the blank.
Don't get me started on the drain plug. Been there and done that too often. I once thought about inventing a floating flapper type valve/gate that automatically floats up and closes the drain when that happens. It could even drop down and drain the boat while traveling on plane. I never got around to it but if anybody here wants to capitalize on the idea go ahead - just send me any the money the idea makes. :D Its actually a brilliant idea even if some of you don't realize it. ;D
some of the race sailboats have them through the bottom. in my old sail boats, if you got up some speed you could pull the rear plug and get water out. you always want to pay close attention to be sure the water depth is getting less and not more. and for sure do not drop the plug overboard or have a spare if you are out in the middle of the lake.
I worked at a marina if you could call it that for a short time, the owner didn't have all his apples in one box. One day he backed a customers trailer into the water, the boat didn't float off so backed in further. Still no joy so he kept going! The trailer dropped off the end of the ramp so now he is stuck. He put the Land Rover in low range and hammered it, the boat and trailer came out but the axle was still in the mud. He yelled at me for not ensuring the plug was installed, I got in my car and left.
owner
@sawguy21 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1763) ,
I thought you were fixing to tell us he forgot to unhook the tie downs. :D (Don't ask me how I thought of that. ::))
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) ,
A few months after we first married I took my wife fishing at my dad's place in N. Fla. The stern plug was so worn it would work its way out. Not being mechanically inclined enough to tighten the screw in the end to swell the gaskets a fudge I would first crank up the little outboard and get up on plane till the water ran out then put the plug back in. I finally cut a stick long enough to wedge between the plug and a cross piece on the boat which worked the rest of the day. We fished till dark then were returning by moonlight. I had my wife sit in the bottom of the boat so I could see any Vee ahead indicating a snag. I rounded a curve too close and ran completely aground on a sandbar and the gallon or so of water left in the bottom of the boat rushed forward and wet her butt. I love her dearly but I must confess my wife has a tendency to get excited and exacerbate the problem. She jumped up and started screaming "We're sinking, we're sinking." I told her "Sit down. We can't sink. We're aground!" The water could not have been 3" deep. I had to take my boots off and push us back into water deep enough to float us off."
Inflatable boats like Zodiac and others are self bailing. They have a one way valve that is just as @WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) describes. While on plane it lets water out. The trouble is they can be a little leaky, so if you sit in one place for a long time it will take on a bit of water. We had trouble with one of our rescue boats. If we left it pulled up to shore for a long time it would take on water. Took a few minutes at plane to drain it all out.
When I worked on Saganaga Lake in MN we would drive the boats all the time with the plug out to drain water. Once I was doing this and pulled up alongside the game warden's boat just to talk and forgot I had the drain out. We talked until I realized I had taken on about 8 inches of water. I all of a sudden said I gotta go and took off. It took me an hour to get all that water out since the 9.9 merc would not go that fast in the first place.
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) if you were already married, no real reason to get a flat tire, run out of gas, or run aground. ;) :) :D . the trouble in a sail boat is they tend to lean a bit depending on the tack you are on. something called the pendulum effect gets worse as the water increases. not fun unless you want to practice righting your boat and retrieving all your stuff that floats, and saying good bye to the stuff that does not. sail_smiley
Reminds me of when I was a boy maybe twelve years old . Dad and I went to the lake to go fishing. We hadn't been out very long and dad starting swearing (odd for him) reel it up! OK I starting reeling in the line we were trolling and I had plenty out and my lure was bouncing on top of the water as dad took off back to the boat ramp. We beached the boat and dad trotted up to the truck and found the new boat plug on his dash. He returned with his stainless steel veterinary pump and bloat hose and I got to take a turn at pumping the water out of the boat. I think of that every time I go out in a boat.
Well I suppose it has come back around to my turn. ;D Nothing spectacular, so save your popcorn. I had a customer over today buying pine and of course he wanted the 2x4's on the bottom under the 2x10's. We moved everything he picked his boards and made a pile and I ran up the numbers but he started to negotiate which didn't make me none too happy. The lumber was sutff I had salvaged from logs for my own use and there were several bad sections, so I figured what the heck. I had already cut 20% for the defects I saw, but he tried to get more. Anyway, we settled on a price and I asked him to help me restack and sticker the pile. He came over to grab a hand, but before he could I grabbed a 2x10x12 in the middle reaching over from the side of the pile and placed it in the center of the drying skid. That weight, with my back fully bent and fully extended, did me in. This was just a stupid move, I know better and had help right there, but I did it all by myself. I was done right there. Took me 20 minutes to close up. He left and I came in the house trying to find a comfortable position, but there was none. Laid on the floor for an hour, no good. Laid in the bed until I fell alseep for a couple of hours, still no relief. Finally called my Chiro and have an appt for tomorrow afternoon. I am walking VERY slowly with a cane and it even hurts just watching TV.
Guess I am out of it for a few days at least.
OGH,
Sorry to hear that and hope the RD can pop everything back into place. I did a neighbor a favor the other day when he wanted ash 2X12X15 for stringers. He wanted 2X12X12 but all I had was 15 so he accepted that. He did not have a truck or trailer and less than 1/4 mile away so I agreed to deliver. I dug through my stack and got 2 nice boards and took them to him only to find he just wanted one. I guess he just needed treads but when he said stringers I automatically assumed he needed a pair and ended bringing one back. They are heavy and I was careful to just load one end at a time so I can feel for you lifting the whole weight.
My dumb move today was not up to my usual standard and really more of a near miss. I pulled my 5X8 trailer to the front yard with my little JD 750 tractor and ran it out of fuel. I had a full can in my boat house and kept meaning to stop by and get it but never got around to it even when I had the tractor right there Tuesday sawing a customer's white oak. Did you know diesel engines don't like running dry. Fortunately I was able to get mine restarted and it wasn't entirely vapor locked this time.
I was bringing the trailer to go get my ATV out of the shop which I did so now when I want to do something dumb I can really do something up to my usual standards. ::)
:D You are on a roll!
I've heard that you don't want to run a diesel dry, so I have done my best not to do it. I'm successful so far. I'm pretty good about not letting my truck get low. Luckily my tractor has a pretty accurate fuel gauge. I'm afraid if that gauge ever quits working, I might run my first diesel out of fuel.
I have a Deere 328 and my dad has beaten it into to me to never ever ever run it out of diesel. Mine has a little manual fuel pump push button that i think is there if it ever siezes up but I sure as heck don't want to have the opportunity to use it
Bleed the lines and use heavy duty silicone to start one is what I do. Some are worse than others. Tim
I have yet to have one of those little pumps work when needed. Usually a rag around a blower nozzle in the fill hole and a little air pressure in the tank will get it going again.
Mine: A friend and I were splitting firewood. I can't aim a maul without breaking the handle to save my life, not to mention near the splitting power that my buddy has. Anyway, I'm standing the logs vertical for him cause he hates bending and I hate feeling worthless and doing nothing. So all is going well when one of the pieces of RO decides to almost explode and I caught a good size piece right in my left shin. With a few choice words said (none to my buddy because it was my fault for wrong place, wrong time) I limped out of the way and hobbled around trying to do SOMETHING, almost anything a temporary gimp could do. Anyway, that took place a week ago. It produced a very large goosegg on said shin. After 3 days of pain and no signs of reduced swelling or pain, I go to the doctor. Well I tell doc that I have a history of staphylococcus and she sees the swelling and the pain from said encounter. She prescribes me some antibiotics and I'm about a 1/4 of the way through the course of them. The pain is getting ever so slightly better maybe the swelling also. If I don't see any better sign of improvement after the course of meds has ran ( 3 times per day for 7 days ) I AM going back to have it re-evaluated.
After 3 days my wife agrees with my assertation (spelling) that judgement of the swelling is better, but the pain so far is only marginally better. Hopefully, waiting will be my friend. We will see how it all goes. I will try to keep everyone updated on this minor problem of mine just because it makes me feel better!
Bye for now.
Misery loves company!
Hope pain goes away soon.
OGH, you need to buy one of those inversion devices, some are called a inversion table, don't see where they get the name table, used to have some boots, with hooks so you could hook them on a bar and hang upside down, but I have what is called an inversion table, any time I over do it, I go to the basement and hang upside down for 30 to 40 seconds, don't hang too long, the blood rushes to your head, not good, but hanging upside down for 30 seconds will not hurt you, and usually gets me going again. Some times, I have to do it a few times before it is well, other times once or twice, but any time I over do it, I go hang before going to bed.
Quote from: farmfromkansas on July 25, 2020, 09:51:12 PM
OGH, you need to buy one of those inversion devices,
Yeah I have tried those. They can give a little temporary relief, but I am way past that. Too little, way too late. My first back injury was at the age of 16 when I slid down a mountainside on my tailbone with a 50# pack on my back, finding every protruding rock along my path. Then got whacked across the back with a freestanding car hood and knocked out for 10 minutes(age 18 ), then doing an antenna job on the roof of a 4 floor building with a pitched roof and a 30MPH wind (age 21), then several more I have forgotten about, then sliding down the stairs on my tailbone which also gave me a bonus neuropathy (sp?) in my right leg I still have part of today (age 48 ), and the list goes on and on.
No thanks. I am fortunate to have a chiropractor trained and proficient in several different treatment forms. He is a genius with muscle and bone structures and has different ways to get things back to the way they are supposed to be. It is a balance between treatment and healing time. I went in Friday, and will go back Tuesday. Friday's visit reduced my pain from a 9 down to a 4 or 5. I walked in very slowly with a cane to help, and I walked out carrying that cane over my shoulder.
As we all know, there is no substitute for a good mechanic who knows what he is doing, and why. ;D
Your back has lived a hard a life. :o
Quote from: Don P on July 25, 2020, 07:30:07 AM
I have yet to have one of those little pumps work when needed. Usually a rag around a blower nozzle in the fill hole and a little air pressure in the tank will get it going again.
I install one of these https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Transfer-Vacuum-Gasoline-Accessories/dp/B06X3R9YBN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=fuel+squeeze+bulb&qid=1595764592&sr=8-2 (https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Transfer-Vacuum-Gasoline-Accessories/dp/B06X3R9YBN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=fuel+squeeze+bulb&qid=1595764592&sr=8-2)
on all my diesels that don't have a electric pump, works great. Steve
I second that primer bulb. My 2001 LT40 super Kubota 42 did not have one and one had to open at the fuel filter, crank the engine, then open at the engine, crank again, diesel running down when successful, etc, etc.
Learned the taste of diesel dribbling out of my mouth.
Didnt think of the bulb until WM started offering it in a revision, so got one, big difference.
The 55 Yanmar on the new mill has an electric fuel pump that runs when the key is turned to on, this primes it fine in about a minute.
Still better to not run out of diesel.
Oh boy, did I ever bollock things up today. Dumb is an understatement. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb....
I upgraded from my 56 HP tractor to get more HP and to be able to lift more weight and this new tractor has less than 20 hours on it. Still new and shiny. Went with SIL to go get some nice white oak logs from a couple of trees that Hurricane David blew down about 5 miles from the sawmill on another piece of timberland that I own. The trees were uprooted down in the low ground, and while I knew that it was risky, I decided to give it a try. First dumb move. I really did know that it was too wet ::). Got the tractor on the gooseneck and hauled it over there and we cut several logs out of the first white oak. I did manage to get the tractor to the logs and did manage to get one 8' log out. The ground as mushy. Made another try and got the butt log picked up, but as I was backing up, one end of the log hit a tree as the area was wet and very tight with other trees. I thought that I could ease past and let the log slide a bit on the forks and get past. Oh no. All that weight of the log (it was a big log) on the front tires and the tree stopping progress caused the front tires to spin and before you knew it, they were sinking. Should have dropped the log and went and got the winch, but oh no, decided to make one more try, then it was too late. The front tires broke through the root mat and from there it was clear sailing to China. Here is where I ended up when I finally decided to abandon the log.
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By now that little voice coming from my right shoulder said stop, your screwed, but that little voice on the left shoulder said give it another shot. In the pic, you can easily see the front right tire. I drove five miles home, got the 8000# warn winch and the 56 HP tractor that I am replacing in an attempt to winch the bigger tractor out. Oh no. Not gonna happen. Just made things worse, actually very much worse, and the tractor did not move back an inch but it moved down further quite a few inches. Here is the mess that I made. If you look very closely, you just might be able to see the very tip top of the front right tire, then again, maybe not :).
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Having to leave my new tractor down in that swamp was a sinking feeling, but I knew that I had cooked my goose. I knew that Jake, 60 miles away, had the stuff to get me out, but I was too embarrassed and ashamed to call him. Then I remembered that the manager of the Pecan farm a few miles away had a 135 HP JD tractor that he used to bring me a ginormous pecan log. Being Saturday, I knew that it was fruitless to even hope and call and get him on the phone, but low and behold he answered and just happened to be over at the Pecan farm turning off the irrigation pumps (because it had rained like a banshee and was wet, DUH!). He said that he would be over shortly, and to make a long story short, we build a log raft under the front end loader/pallet forks on my stuck tractor and pushed down with all she had and lifted the front tires up just enough to build a short log platform under them, and after several attempts with him pulling me with a chain with links about the size of your fist, we got it out. Whew.
Dumb.
Well, did you get the logs or not... :D
Many years ago I was logging on my land. I was on the edge of one of my wet holes. It was a hard spot to get at, with the leave trees and the angle I had to get the logs out. I kept backing into the same spot. After the fourth time I knew I was pushing my luck. I winched in the log and got on the tractor and picked up the 3 pt winch and started forward. Did not get far, the rear wheel went down, went past China!! I knew I was in a mess, a mighty mess. I dropped the log and tried to ease it forward with my foot on the pedal that locks both tires in. It came right out!! How was beyond me. I winched the log to me and found another place to back in.
Than another time I was working on the Rocky Highway to the bog. I had a logging crew in there and I was bringing some more rocks to hold up the forwarder. Somehow I got one side off on the highway, than the more I tried to get back on the more I got off. Finally as WDH did, I had to call someone. I called the guy logging that night and told him I would be waiting at the house for a ride to The Bog. Hooked a chain around one of the arms of the forwarder and out it came. I raptured one of the hyd lines under the tractor, so he towed me to the house with his truck.
I only got out the one log. I was exhausted after finally getting unstuck and did not have any more ambition as it related to recovering anything that remotely looked like a log. The heat and humidity and the mud destroyed any further initiative :).
Danny,
What's the fuss? You have to test the limitations on any new piece of equipment and now you know some of the things it won't do. :D I am glad nobody was hurt and looks like a good pressure washing will have you back where you started. Remember long cables and snatch blocks are your friends.
Quote from: RichTired on August 01, 2020, 09:08:07 PM
Well, did you get the logs or not... :D
That reminds me many years ago when my wife's brother in Alaska was sheep hunting and fell off a mountain and rolled and bounced about 200'. Broke both wrists and had a concussion. 35 miles from the nearest road so one buddy stayed with him and the other 2 hiked out to the nearest road and flagged down a state trooper who called a chopper to go get him. He said his rifle could shoot around corners when he came to a stop. His mom called my wife to tell her about the accident and Becky asked her "Well, did they get anything?"
Long cables and snatch blocks failed miserably. My SIL looked at me and said, "Well, I guess you have it broke in now".
Danny, no need to baby that new, shiny tractor. Its best to know its limitations and now you know. Looks like you stirred up a real soupy mess in that second picture.
it is always nice to get the new off the tractor so yo are not afraid to scratch it! glad all is well and we can all learn from your adventure.
Oh yeah, been there done that Danny. I have had my Kubota buried up to the frame more than once. (Be glad you don't have mud under deep snow!) :D
I've gotten all too proficient at lifting up wheels to get blocks and timbers under them. Make sure to give your new toy a good wash down, check it over, and grease everything. (And don't drive in that spot!)
WV - more and more I get the impression that you and your family should really not be around any mountains. Y'all seem to roll down them quite a lot. There is a place called North Dakota that would probably be a lot safer for you to live, won't roll nearly as far. :D
Danny - I would have come and helped you get out - of course from 1/2 mile away you would have heard Brad Paisley playing "Mud on the Tires" over and over as I approached. :D
WDH that is a great story and well told, at a cost I am sure many of us can understand. I laughed long and hard, but not at you. No, I was laughing with you. Your humility in sharing your day's ordeal is something many of us have been through in one form or another. I have done similar or worse. The decision making process is predictable (from a distance of time), but when you are there in the moment it is certainly different, and that is why it is so humorous. We (many of us) have done, and decided the exact same things as you did, sometimes with much worse results (not that it could ever happen to me :D).
Bottom line is this: you did something dumb, you used your available resources and got the rig out without damage and everybody went home safe to fight another day. Around here, we call that a Tuesday. Good on ya. Life is tough, get a helmet.
Danny,
How many horsepower did it take to get that stuck?
Glad it ended well.
WDH, thank you for the introduction to your new "horse for the farm". The old saying, "when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging", comes to mind. I nearly stuck my Kubota a month ago while fetching logs out of the edge of my pond but it was pointed downhill at a very steep angle.
I am glad you got it out. The wet, summer heat will sap the ambition out a man. There is a lot more that goes into producing lumber than sawing the logs into boards. Many do not understand all the touches, steps, equipment and adversity often involved.
Sam,
106 HP did a fine job of getting her stuck. With HP comes weight, with weight comes trouble, sometimes. The 2000 pounds of white oak on the forks at the start did not help all that much either. At least as it comes to weight, with that heat and humidity, I came out of the adventure a little lighter myself. Looked liked a drowned possum :).
(BTW, don't tell Jake. He will play "Mud on the Tires", too, in the 2nd vehicle, the one behind Southside, and he will laugh at me too. The only good thing is that I know that he has done worse :D).
I'm listening.
You got to watch my telescopic loader go down in my front yard.
I always enjoy getting someone else unstuck, but don't enjoy getting myself unstuck. :D One reason, most times I stay high and dry when I am doing the pulling. I just hand the chain to the one stuck. :D
I bet Danny has already snaked that log out of the swamp.
I have always found that you need a bigger tractor to get out the one you have stuck. One time I got my biggest tractor stuck, got my wife and long cable and the 4020 to pull it out, and could do nothing. Went to a ball game that night, told my neighbor my trouble, and he came in the morning with his 4wd Versatile with duals all around, and it came out easy. If your tractor set very long with water over the gearboxes, would pull the drain plug and see if there is any water in there. Better now than after you start having problems.
:D You southern boys REALLY know how to get into trouble. I can't be too smug though, gotten myself stuck more than once with errors in judgement. I once came upon a very stuck dump truck, his buddy showed up with a grader, hooked on and promptly buried it cab deep. The D8H arrived on the scene and pulled them out together with a very large chain. I was waiting for a chain (or the grader) to snap but everything held.
Danny:
I consider stuck when you have to step down to get to onto the running boards.
My brother and I got dad's MF150 that stuck in plowed ground one day.
Dad was not happy.
Gerald
Quote from: caveman on August 02, 2020, 06:50:55 AM
There is a lot more that goes into producing lumber than sawing the logs into boards. Many do not understand all the touches, steps, equipment and adversity often involved.
The man speaks truth. Great quote there.
Nice Tractor! :)
Now in the old days if a logger had done that on one of Danny's tracts..... >:(
This is how you get found in a peat bog 50000 years from now.
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There was a big glass door here at least I'm not stuck
Hopefully we will get another picture of it all washed and waxed ready to go 👍
May not be the safest thing to do but chain a log to the rear wheels and make it pick itself up then fill the hole under the wheel with something. Just don't run the chain through the hole in the wheel where the valve stem is.
Now how many of you all have turned one over. I guess I'm gonna get raked over the coals for that first tip anyway....so I'll tell you I have turned over 3 different tractors. Thank goodness for roll cages and seatbelts. Only injury I got was getting back on one I rolled to shut of the motor & grabbed the hot muffler. This is in Mississippi.... highest point is 806 feet. Tim
Banjo don't give him any ideas he is going to have that new Tractor 🚜 trashed 😂
Speaking of getting stuck. It's amazing the flotation of a wide track dozer has compared to a standard. Where a standard track would be instantly stuck a wide track can work just fine in wet ground
I got my 270c cat track-loader stuck after a rain when we were working on the drainage behind the house. it had rained and a puddle soaked in. the lugs filled in. so the slippery mud just lubricated the tracks. My little 850 JD was able to pull it. just needed to get over the bump at the back of the tread that was like a 90° stop.
Yes, you can unstick a tractor with a Sweetgum pole: LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)
The best getting stuck is with the groomer for snowmoble trails after it breaks through the ice in the middle of a big swamp. Its cold, its wet, and then you have to drag logs and brush into the middle of the qaugmire and get them under the groomer, and then disconnect the groomer attachemnt and then go back for it. Oh yeah, do it all before it freezes in as the Temerature is dropping - a million.
I''l take the mud anyday. :D
Quote from: Magicman on August 02, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
Yes, you can unstick a tractor with a Sweetgum pole: LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)
Yep that's what I was talking about. Tim
We used a pole in another way when I was mowing for MDOT. One of the guys, and no it wasn't me, went off in a place he should have known better to go and got stuck. We had like 5 tractors on the job, but he was so far out in the wet area even with 3 or 4 tractors chained together we couldn't get close enough with the chains we had. So from the chain on the back of the stuck tractor we chained about a 40 foot pole then all the tractors pulling together got him out. Country boy logic. Tim
Goose, are you gonna let us know why the glass and rubber seal from you tractor window are broken?
This was not so much as dumb as just slow on the uptake. I was cutting the grass in my back yard and when I ducked under some pine limbs like I always do I thought they were hanging a little lower than normal. I have to trim them every year from growth, but something was not right. It was then that I noticed the tree was laying over on my garage/shop. When did that happen? I sure don't know. Finished cutting the grass and then got out the saw and some young boys to help drag all the limbs away. Luckily it was only a shortleaf that was about 6" diameter. There was a group of 3 of them that had grown there. I left them to be 20 years ago. I imagine I'm gonna have to cut the other 2 down eventually. They both lean.
@goose63 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) I had that happen a couple years ago the drivers side cab on mine now has a custom plexiglass door, It might scratch but it won't shatter. Dealership ordered it for me.
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) glad it came out ok and wasn't severely damaged, I've seen more than one farm implement destroyed from being stuck.
I managed to run my vet truck out of fuel two miles out of town, thought I could make it to the next town north. I was headed to check out a used truck for my brother and it was just before 5:00 and the shop was closing. (Found out later it had sold that morning) So I had to suck it up and call in to the clinic for a ride to get a fuel can. Not only will I get a hard time from my office I managed to run out of fuel on the road just north of my wifes office, so she knew something was up before I got back. I also had someone ask what was wrong with my truck at the gas station after I got back to town. They saw it sitting so they went and checked it out just in case I needed something. Gotta love small towns. I try to never go home less than half a tank, just forgot to stop the night before and didn't notice the dummy light on in time..... ::), I haven't had this truck that long but I now know if that light comes on you need gas right now.
Must not be a Ford truck. My E light comes on and says I have 50 miles to E. When I stop to put fuel in, I clearly still have about 10 gallons left in the tank.
I put an after market 60 gallon on mine so I can go farther and or fill up less. works great but to take full advantage, you have to go slow or "squirty' to get it full for the last 5 gallons or so. If you park or slow down on a slope, with 1/8th tank on the gage, it may suck air and die. the tank is 8 feet long between the frame rails. all the remaining fuel can run to the front or back. sending unit and pick up is in the middle.
Quote from: Walnut Beast on August 02, 2020, 02:19:06 PM
Hopefully we will get another picture of it all washed and waxed ready to go 👍
Well, she is not waxed but she is much cleaner.
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At Jake's place, there is never a Lull in the action :D.
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Danny, Your tractor shines like a new penny. I do wax my tractor and the sawmill about once a year.
I never would have thought that the ground in Jake's yard would ever get that soft.
I have done the same thing with my Lull - the nice thing is that extendable boom - 44' worth of push my way back out of the mess I managed to find myself in!!
Those Lulls are full of surprises.
I've driven Jake's and some others - high but sorta narrow tires, plus HEAVY, like . . . a lot of junk in the trunk!
Jake does it weigh about 30,000 lbs. ?
When the boom is fully extended, some are still able to handle some 3500 lbs. on the forks - which needs a lot of weight at the other end.
Your results may vary, but I've never had much luck when taking one of those for a shortcut across the back lawn . . . 😝
It seems to me that a Lull so anchored would be very stable picking up that extra heavy load. Of course if you need to move the load that could create a problem
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All the boom pushing was fruitless.
Had a heifer find a spring one day and she got stuck up to her belly in it, the Lull was the only machine I dated to use to lift her out of there as I could reach from what I thought was a solid spot. Managed to pluck her out and get her on her way, but wiggling the Lull into that spot opened up the ground and it was stuck, so I had to go get the skidder and use the cable to pull it out. Ever try to run two machines at the same time 100' apart? Between swamping under the heifer to fix a harness and running back and forth between the two machines I was done for the day...
Should have got a few pictures for us 😂
A couple of times I was more worried about the news folks taking pictures of me wrapped around that heifer while the fire department plucked us both out...
Don't know why Danny is comparing our to stuck pictures. You can still see my front tires. :D
Right in front of the lull is where the store is now. It only took the 16,500 lbs. winch with a snatch block and truck hooked to tractor for a anchor to get me out.
Andries you are correct that machine is somewhere north of 30,000 lbs.
Couldn't use the boom to push out as it would have pushed me deeper. Thought about using it to pull out but nothing was in line and I though it might bend the boom.
Quote from: Magicman on August 02, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
Yes, you can unstick a tractor with a Sweetgum pole: LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)
Probably the only thing sweet gum is good for!😂
The gland at the end of the extension cylinder is a weak point under side stress, don't ask me how I know ::). But it does a great job of shoving a semi out of the mud if the wheels don't have traction enough. I looks like you have outriggers Jake. If you chock the back bumper so it can't sink further I think the outriggers can be chocked enough to lift the front and center enough to balance the frame, then boom in and out to tip it back and forth to build a bridge of planks under it.
I drove alongside a house one time to lift a unit of roof ply up to the second floor. Tight quarters and I dropped the drivers side wheels into the basement backfill. The load was already up and the rollover switch shut it down, there I was listing closer and closer to the house with a dead machine. Caused a flurry of slinging plywood and it righted enough to light up again, diff lock and it crawled itself out leaving an ugly mess but no house damage. Thought for a minute I was going to make a youtube fail, pure panic :D
Oh, another one. A farmer talked me into crossing a ford, what he didn't say was it had rained since his last crossing. As my feet got wet I was thinking, this can't be good :D
You know when you go through your mill re- aligning and adding just a little more down pressure you should adjust the scale accordingly. ::) ::) ::)
Why was that off at the end? ::)
That heifer story reminds me of when I had a cow stuck in the muck in my pond. Went to put out mineral and found just the head of this cow sticking out. Went and got my ATV and pulled on her head for about a half hour before getting her pulled loose. She took the ATV and luckily hit the metal rack when she came loose. And I had a light weight chain over her head so it would not choke her, she took off with the chain and I never did find it. Had that pond cleaned out a couple years ago with a huge excavator. When they were almost finished, water started coming up from the bottom. Great day.
9 whole days since the lat entry. I guess it comes back to me then ;D. It occurs to me that most of the things mentioned in these pages are the result of an error in judgement, not all, but most, and sometimes it is a split second decision that causes a post to show up here.
Not so much with me this time, I had time, lots of time, but I STILL made the wrong choice.
Last night I backed a load of firewood in the trailer to be stacked and after dinner started in on it. I got it 80% done but the heat of the day sapped the life out of me and I knew it would take me 15 minutes this morning when it was cooler to get it done. So I left the trailer there with the Mule attached. I thought about unhooking so I could put the Mule in the shop, but it's a pain and I was shot, so I let it go. A little bit later it started to drizzle and I was thinking about all the tools in the back of the Mule that would get wet so I checked the radar and sure enough there was a small severe cell about to go by, but it was passing to our north, so I thought "ah, some sprinkles won't hurt nuttin' ". 5 minutes later the sky opened up. Wouldn't matter how fast I moved, it was already too late. I guess the cell was a little closer than the radar indicated. Everything was soaked. Tool bags (3, and two were wide open), my chainsaw and chaps, chain bucket, spare chains, files, and everything else that I use daily including a bag of gloves, PPE, rags and everything else was totally soaked.
So this morning after I stacked the wood and put the trailer where it goes, I had to take everything out of the back of the Mule and all the items out of the tool bags and lay it in the sun and flip it once in a while. I had been meaning to do a cleanup anyway because it was getting pretty ratty in there, but not quite to this level. Stupid choice.
Hey, no stitches, no broken bones no dented or broken equipment. Sounds like a pretty good day to me. And you got the incentive and a chance to clean out and organize your tool bags and boxes. No wasted effort there, just a little of Nature's assistance on your scheduling. ;) (And you can still sneeze without pain.)
not dumb, sorry OGH.
come back when you have damage to expensive item or injury (stay safe and smart to all..)
Yeah, no injury (this time), but I still felt pretty stupid because it cost me several hours work. I could have done a normal clean out and clean in about 15 minutes. It could have been avoided easily, but I was lazy and made a bad call. Dumb things come in a lot of forms.
OGH,
There are many degrees of dumbness and this act is right near the bottom. Think of it as an opportunity/training project to work with the grandkids who would love to help Grandpa wipe down and organize his tools.
When I was in the Canadian Army too many years ago were called these types of things extra training. ;D
We are dry enough(pastures are done, producers early weaning calves) and there was a chance of rain last night, I thought about leaving my compound miter saw and 15 air dried ash boards outdoors as a rain dance after I got called out last night and couldn't finish the project before it was dark. Put everything in, dry as a bone this morning. :( My tools and stuff getting wet probably would have been a positive thing here..
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Just something I could do quick before supper while on call...
Cleaning the nubbies off of a pine log before putting it on the mill .....felt something warm run down my leg. ::) Cap came open on oil reservoir on the saw I just filled Sunday afternoon....I think I got more on the boot than the pants. Glad it wasn't hot yet, would've been quite a dance stripping my pants off by the mill. Didn't give it an extra tweak with the scrench, I know better.
Well at least you put the cap on.
That's all I am saying. ;D
Funny how here in Kansas we usually don't get a drop of rain in August, but we are having trouble getting any hay put up, and it is a month late already, and in Nebraska, where it usually rains, it is dry? It is really spotty, we got .30 Sunday morning, and a couple miles from here they had 1.4 inches. I drove a silage truck yesterday for the neighbors, and there were places in the field where we were spinning our wheels.
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) ,
Been there. Done that. Got the spots on my pants to show for it. I consider myself lucky when I can even find the oil cap because sometimes I don't.
Nebraska, was that a stihl? Don't know what was the matter with the ones with a screwdriver slot. I've poured out gas and oil....just not at the same time. Tim
I have 2 stihls. One an older 025 that I always tighten the caps with the scrench. I've never had a problem other than cursing when my scrench was not handy to remove a cap. I've used many things to remove a cap. My other saw is a newer MS291 with the new type of cap. I've broken one and also put them in wrong, which lead to leakage. I've learned to use them correctly now and do fine with them, but still prefer the old kind.
I put a saw with that new style of cap on the trailer one day, turned to walk back to the bench and stood in a trail of oil on the ground leading back to the bench :-\. Quickly turned back to the trailer and sure enough it's sitting there, cap off, glug-glug-glug... Back to the bench again ::) I prefer the old style too
I bet you will be double checking 😂👍
Wish it was one of those snappy flip catch stihl saws, no its a 510 Dolmar, just one of my general purpose firewood saws. So it has a nice screw on cap with a little flange to pry a scrench against to snug up or loosen. So no excuses. @farmfromkansas (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=36643) We are in a terribly dry pocket, a circle of maybe 5 counties goes across the river into Iowa. I heard some folks started chopping silage corn this week and seed corn is going to start coming out next week. (Mostly good irrigated ground so probably not early really) I have soybeans on the hillside north of my house burning up. Yard is brown except around the trees I watered and the flower beds.
Helping my daughter with a project. She needed the board just a bit narower. told her I will run it over the jointer. I was lucky just took the fingerprint off my thumb without breaking the skin.
WOW trapper that is too close for comfort! Glad it was not worse.
I had one take the fingerprint off my little finger too, and half of the finger tip from the last little knuckle to the tip :).
Thats a close shave.
Well, my turn. My pressure washer is sometimes difficult to start. After you pull it a few times, it builds up pressure that needs to be relieved by pulling the trigger on the wand. If not, the pull cord becomes difficult to pull and can recoil out of your hands. Well, I pulled it one too many times and the thing got yanked out of my hand and the handle slapped my leg. My lord did that sting. That was an hour ago and I still have a perfect shape of the handle on my leg.
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You slapped your own self.
FF I could of done without the visual! My eyes can't un-see it! :o
Quote from: K-Guy on August 20, 2020, 04:12:41 PM
FF I could of done without the visual! My eyes can't un-see it! :o
What....I have hairy legs.
Have you ever considered starring in a B-grade movie? :D
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on August 20, 2020, 12:21:12 PM
Well, my turn. My pressure washer is sometimes difficult to start. After you pull it a few times, it builds up pressure that needs to be relieved by pulling the trigger on the wand. If not, the pull cord becomes difficult to pull and can recoil out of your hands. Well, I pulled it one too many times and the thing got yanked out of my hand and the handle slapped my leg. My lord did that sting. That was an hour ago and I still have a perfect shape of the handle on my leg.
I'll quote that without the image oz_smiley.
But thought I'd mention, I always start my pressure washer with the lance trigger/handle held open and half throttle with choke so it doesn't stall it. I don't even get one pull if I don't so I don't really have a choice but might be worth a try for you.
1) I've run my fingers over my jointer too hah... It did nothing at all. I think I pulled the knives later that day and sent them in for sharpening.
2) I rolled a stonker of a log off my trailer earlier this week, thinking I'd parked back far enough that it would hit a mound of soil and not roll past it. Well it missed. Carried on rolling towards the orchard and diesel bowser. In my panic the best solution I could come up with was to stab my log peavy into the ground in front of it, which of course it flattened like a twig. However much weight it takes to bend a log peavy laying on flat grass, that's how heavy this log is =(. Freshly painted high vis red too ='(.
Still better than toe pictures.....
Sorry about your peavy Josh.
And sure better than finger pix! ::)
This is hard to admit to. I locked the keys in the work truck yesterday. I have a spare, but it was in the center console. That added an extra hour to the day. FYI a chainsaw wedge is a great tool for prying open a door enough to get a wire in there.
Try that with a high security/hardened vehicle! ::) I did that in Iraq in one of our hardened SUVs. We had some Nat'l Guardsmen who were Policemen in Boston on site and they used wooden wedges like you described till they could get a wire in and push the door unlock button.
You guys are making me feel pretty good!
Given the amount of work, tools, and hazards involved in my day, my goal was to not have anything to confess here tonight. Sadly, that is not entirely true.
While between trees I was refueling the saw. Did the gas fine, Brandon drove by on the tractor as I was filling the oil, he asked me a question and I looked up and answered him, then put the cap on the oil jug and grabbed up the saw to go back to work.... as the oil ran down my leg. I never put the oil cap back in the saw.
I am fairly happy that this was my dumbest move of the day (given the above posts, sympathy to all, especially FFOTS, that's gotta smart!). Sorry WDH I really wanted to stay off here tonight, but I have to be honest. I did have a lot of 'unexpected learning opportunities' today, but there were not injuries, close calls, or broken equipment, so they don't count, and shouldn't.
Wow! Over a month with nothing new here. Pretty amazing.
Mine today was pretty petty considering previous postings but I pulled my riding mower beside my truck yesterday to air up a tire using one of those cheap 12V air compressors. Aired up the tire then my mower would not start so I assumed weak battery. It has not been spinning to pert lately. I was in luck and the jumper cables were right under the seat and the battery on the truck was on the correct side so I hooked up but no luck after several tries. I even cranked the truck for more power. I saw sparks and pulled the jumper cables off but too late. I'd let the alligator clamp touch the 2 cables on the mower battery and had melted the insulation off both and even melted the negative post on the mower battery. No huge issue as wife had a Dr appointment this morning so I just rode over with her, then to Rural King, got a new battery and a couple of ring connectors then had to stop at a parts place and get a couple feet of #4 cable. I was able to just put a new ring on the negative cable on the mower and it just barely reached to post on the battery then I cut and spliced about 10" of new #4 cable on the positive cable. Fortunately I had a big wire nut that worked good for that. Taped it up good with electrical tape, crimped the other ring connector on and hooked up the new battery. I tried the mower but it would barely grunt so I decided must be a bad starter. I finally decided to just take it to my new small engine mechanic and backed my 5X8 trailer up to it and dropped the tailgate and was fixing to push it in. I decided to try one more time so got on turned the switch. It grunted but did not start so I wondered ... and I decided did not sound like a starter so put the jumper cable back on and it started right up. Duuhh! I assumed the new battery was charged - wrong. I was a heartbeat away from hauling the mower to the shop for a dead battery. I went ahead and mowed the whole place so unless I have a bad alternator I should be back in the mowing business. Never overlook the obvious. ::)
I was just thinking a few days ago that my thread might be dead, but its back! I guess none of us have done anything done for a month.
I always expect that a new battery will have a decent charge too. Glad you did not take it in. I tried to start my mule this afternoon and it did not have enough juice. I don't drive the thing enough to maintain the battery, so occasionally I have to charge it. Instead of dragging out a 100 foot cord or driving somehting else over by it to jump it, I decided to put it in neutral and push it to the garage. That was dumb. That thing is heavy, but I made it.
I resemble these remarks from both youse guys! I mowed today too and made the mistake of shutting off the mower to chat with a neighbor walking by with her baby. It would not crank when I tried to re-start, too hot. SO I went and ran an errand and it cranked right back up when I returned. Yesterday afternoon I needed the mule to trailer some wood to the shop and it was dead too. Had to put it on the charger for the first time since last winter (plowing runs it down with all the winch work).
Mowers and Mules.
Thanks howard just bought a new mower battery to run extra lights on atv. will put it on charger before i use it.
How's this for dumb...
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Dumb that I heard the saw running lean while my friend was using it. Dumb that I was too lazy to stop him and adjust it. Dumb that its cooked.
Definitely stupid of me to trim the leak test plug on the exhaust port with a bandsaw that has such a crooked weld joint it catches wood at the best of times. Into the bin it goes :(
@trapper (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=5228) ,
Your battery may already be charged but I'd just check it first especially if you don't get the performance you expect. Good luck.
Quote from: JoshNZ on September 24, 2020, 12:32:17 AM
How's this for dumb...
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Dumb that I heard the saw running lean while my friend was using it. Dumb that I was too lazy to stop him and adjust it. Dumb that its cooked.
Definitely stupid of me to trim the leak test plug on the exhaust port with a bandsaw that has such a crooked weld joint it catches wood at the best of times. Into the bin it goes :(
You wrote: "Into the bin it goes".
I think you should put it somewhere where you can see it daily as a reminder of a past decision.
GAB
I'd have an awfully cluttered shed if I did that each time I had a ballsup xD
Quote from: JoshNZ on September 24, 2020, 04:41:55 PM
I'd have an awfully cluttered shed if I did that each time I had a ballsup xD
Oh-Kay, you might have to add an ell to the shed. But just think once you retire you could write a book about all of your experiences what worked and what didn't. Who knows you might have a best seller in your retirement. In any case it would keep you busy for a while, all right based on what you wrote, maybe a loonnngggg time.
Wishing you the very best,
GAB
Gerald,
If we all did that we all might become famous, best selling writers - or we could all end up in the looney bin (or whatever the current politically correct term for it is now) thinking about all our injuries, lost money and time. :D :D :D
Howard:
I frequently hear of retired individuals being bored in retirement. I thought that might be a way of helping avoid that fate for Josh and possibly elevate him to the best sellers list.
Oh-Well,
Gerald
It might or it might be just enough to push him over the edge. They already drive on the wrong side of the road down there - no telling what other quirks they may have we are not aware of. :D
Wednesday we got the main metal on the steep roof we were doing. I made a pair of ridge stools that night so we could sit over the ridge and work the ridgecap, my legs don't have the pinch to straddle the ridge that long anymore. Yesterday morning the rain was already here so we decided to fix my partners woods truck. I towed it up close to the garage and then we winched it up. We spent the day crawling over it and redoing wiring and by day's end it fired up. He pulled forward and shut down, I unhooked the cable and we reeled it back in, which killed the old battery. He was breaking out the charger and I was tidying up. We had been standing on the ridge stools and one was caught under a tire a little bit, (here's your sign!). I snatched it out without thinking. Yup, it had been the chock, and the truck starts down the drive. I guess happily my little ranger was behind it. It knocked it backwards about 5' with an authoritative whump about the time he got to his brake and I wandered around back expecting to see a mess. I think I must have wasted some good karma, time to refill the bank :D. His hitch must have hit my recovery hook. Life's little lessons; Make sure things are as assumed before pulling anything that might be the chock.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on September 25, 2020, 09:58:51 AM
It might or it might be just enough to push him over the edge. They already drive on the wrong side of the road down there - no telling what other quirks they may have we are not aware of. :D
Actually our ancestors got it right using the left side of the road, we just had to be different. ;D
One of the many lumber products I make is a tree stake. It is 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" x 8' long for holding newly planted saplings in place until the root ball take hold.
I usually make several hundred of these each year for a landscaping business that plants a lot of new saplings.
To point these tree stakes I bought a pointer machine from Hud-Son many years ago:
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After the first engine broke down I got another one from a local power equipment shop. A nice Honda engine.
I have my yearly order to do and I have cut out over 100 stakes to allow for some breakage.
Now to point the lot.
Well, that engine hadn't been started for a while, most likely a year. But it seemed ok and with plenty of gas, I started pulling the starter cord.
Nothing. Cleaned the air filter, mouse nest out, and checked the fuel line to make sure I had the shut off valve in the right position to allow the gas to flow. Which I did.
Pull some more.
Nothing.
Full choke and full throttle, nothing.
Well, then if finally dawned on marble head, this engine had an on off switch. Switch of course was off.
On, second pull; started right up.
Worked up a sweat for nothing.
Jim Rogers
I have gotten spoiled with my chainsaw always reverting to the on position. I always forget to switch my weedeater back on.
I do that every time I start .y wood splitter.
I only have one motor with an off switch like that - catches me out every time. Lots of cussing and then a red face.
At work we have a few honda engines. We always say " if it don't start on the second pull you didn't switch it on"
mh
I bought a new weed eater and went with the next model up as it had the revert to "on" kill switch
I was trying to fire up my big Onan generator. Has a start/stop switch. Pressed the start, the choke kick in and it cranks, and cranks, and cranks. Won't start. I try flipping the choke, still won't go. Its like its not getting any fuel. Tank is full. I look around, forgot to open the gas up. Dooh! Start right up when it has gas!
Amazing :D
Yeah, they do run better on gas than on air.
I am not even going to try and explain how I managed to do this not on purpose. Wedged in there nice and tight. Big too, 16 feet long and over 20" on small end. This one snatched the end of the mill over about 18" so I had to replace and re-level the mill which was a total pain. Dumb.
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The moral of this story is "He who tries to mill big logs without a very stout piece of support equipment with forks had better Not be Dumb."
I bet that brought you back to reality.
Danny, It happens. John and I are probably going to strap the rear end of our mill to the mill shed (like Jake does) to minimize the movement. Sometimes, after dumping a pile of logs on the deck, our mill will have moved several inches due to being bumped by rolling logs. We have not wedged one like that but the weekend is still young. The tide seems to finally be going out here but we are due for more rain tomorrow. Looks like Muck boots are wardrobe items for tomorrow.
The way my mill sits the problem is opposite of Jakes so I put a solid block down at the bottom of the front foot and kept it from dancing around, basically blocked it out rather than tied it in. Sometimes just the head traveling back and forth would make her move.
Kyle and Jim,
Going to have to strap her down like Jake did on his LT70 so she does not try to run off on me again.
Friskie dog: You stepped away from the mill and he reared up and put his paws on the first and third hydraulic levers. :D
Close (Not) :D.
Danny, that sure is a predicament you have there. Thats one of the reasons I have not bought an extension for my mill. If I did, then I would be tempted to try and mill 16' logs. Then I would need a bigger tractor.....well its a never ending story.
Danny it's better if you do that with a audience. That way when you are trying to figure out how you are getting out of the situation you can read the looks on their faces to see if you're doing it right.
I was milling the nicest black oak log I had ever milled (forty two inch dia.) using my 60" circular saw. When I cut my first clear 1"x24" x 8' board, I got buck fever and mad a bad move in my efforts to immediately run up and look at this beautiful piece of wood. I backed the carriage up to the stop position, swinging my head left as the carriage came to a stop. At same time I was leaning my head out past the safety glass. I do not normally cut 24" wide boards. I was not expecting that 24" wide board to fall over the 12" tall sharks fin onto the blade as was turning my head left. That heavy 60" circular saw with a GM diesel 671 pushing it didn't even flinch as that blade grabbed the board and skimmed it across the top of my head. The board continued spinning through space to the community building across the road. That was first thing in the morning. I was back in school by noon. Ran the mill only once since then 25 or so years ago. But, I'm setting the old girl up again.
I'd like to see it, but lets not shoot any more large slabs sailing.
:o You are lucky to be here to tell us about it!
:o :o :o
I've been close a time or two but I think that was the closest. The two week old baby boy at home convinced me I needed to make some life adjustments. Going back to school changed my life for the better so that sawmill scare changed my whole life for the better where it so easily could have ended it right there.
I was in my dad's garage today and saw the shelf unit he had on the wall. It was familiar to me and I looked closer. I realized it was the shelf above my childhood desk....that I had burned with my lamp and had the fire department come to the house. This is a different house than we lived in. Dad had obviously repurposed the shelf. I looked under it and the burn mark was clear as day.
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That experience must have made an impression on you!?? :)
Quote from: handhewn on October 04, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
I was milling the nicest black oak log I had ever milled...
I was hoping we'd hear the story of the scare soon. Sounds like you might've needed rubber bands around your trouser ankles for your walk home! Don't be discouraged anyway, more wiser for it no doubt. Good luck with firing her up!
Knew I shouldn't saw this rotten log in half.
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The Guinness World Record Recording Team will arrive tomorrow to make their measurements and present you with the Certificate. :D
It happens when your sawing logs sometimes ;)
Now how did you get it off the cat track-mill?
Dennis,
You did a fine job on that one ;D.
Quote from: Peter Drouin on October 08, 2020, 07:54:22 PM
It happens when your sawing logs sometimes ;)
Now how did you get it off the cat track-mill?
I took off the tire and three of us toppled it over into the sawdust.
No harm done, to the mill anyway.
No machine there but after some deliberation it occurred to me the mill was portable. :laugh:
So I set it up again on the other side of the log and milled that sucker into 3" slabs like customer first asked me to.
When I didn't have a machine handy, I dragged it from one side of the mill back to the loader side with my suv.
Jim Rogers
Good job. smiley_thumbsup
I would say something dumb happened to me yesterday and not that I did something dumb. Pulling my camper home from a trip and I noticed the truck surging and making a whoomping sound. I thought the turbo had gone at first, but then I looked in the passenger side mirror and saw that a trailer tire was coming apart. There were parts of the tire and the camper flying off. I slowed down of course, but wasn't about to stop on the interstate hwy shoulder to try and change a tire. I drove about 3 miles very slow with my flashers on. That was probably the scariest part of the whole ordeal. Once I got pulled over on an exit I could see the damage. The tire was shredded of course, but the wheel well trim was destroyed, the sheet metal behind the wheels was smashed, there was a hole thru the camper floor and two brackets that attach to the frame and help support the floor were heavily damaged. I got the spare mounted in about 45 minutes and then had to find somewhere to get air, which wasn't easy. Many places have air, but not many of those places allow for a 36' fifth wheel to pull up to them. The rest of the trip was uneventful and now I need to get a new tire and find somewhere to do repairs on the trailer.
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Sorry you had that experience. Glad not injuries, well except camper. Hope you find a repair person soon.
Bummer bad way to end a trip.
I have gone to G rated tires on my trailers after having the same thing happen several times. I also get them balanced even though the tire place says it's not necessary for a trailer tire.
They are not cheap, but I have never had one fail either.
Why would they not balance a trailer tire?
I have considered G rated tires. Maybe I will get them. They don't always balance trailer tires, because they assume you don't care about ride comfort on the trailer. My aluminum camper wheels have stick on weights. I think that is just to balance the wheels.
I am taking it to a repair shop on Friday. He said it will be at least a month, but its winterized as of 30 minutes ago and we will not use it til the spring, so no real hurry. I will take it for new tires Friday before dropping it off. I am going to replace all tires.
I think the bigger and heavier overall the tire is, the more it might help. my grandpa, who was a foreman for Boogarts grocery store would buy semi tires by lifting them and bought the heaviest ones. he was the first driver they had, and later was over about 60 trucks and drivers. I think most trailer tires weather to death, and are rarely worn out, aside from daily used trailers.
Yeah, these tires are 4 years old. They do not have signs of cracking, well at least the 3 that didn't blow up. Still, I'll take it as a sign to replace all 4. I went almost 3 decades of driving without having a blowout while I was driving and then last year I had a blowout on my flatbed trailer and now this. I will likely get a new model of Goodyear trailer tire that is same rating(E), but they say it is heavier.
I've always ran E rated tires. I've never heard of G rated before ( they don't let me out much😁 ). Are they fairly easy to find ? I will have to ask next time I need some.
I have heard of heavier trailer tires but have been told they come in limited sizes (like mostly 16 inches). one year coming home from camp we had 2 blowouts on the same trailer. only had one spare. they were ready to be changed.
Can you get road hazard for trailer tires? I have it on my truck and insurance will pay for someone to come fix it on the side of the road or haul it to a repair shop.
My son and daughter-in-law had a blowout on her car and she just called AAA and they got it fixed. Down side it took over three hours before the service truck got to them. They had to set on the side of the freeway in a not to nice side of town until they arrived...
Everyone (mostly) on YouTube raves about the Goodyear trailer tires. I personally try to find LT tires in the correct size and ply rating for my trailers. I've not had any problems doing this. I'm not sure what is available for 15" tires in heavy ratings, so it may not be an option. I have to replace the tires on my 5th wheel soon, so I will find out what is available.
My camper has 16" wheels, so I might be able to find an LT to fit, but I think im just going to go up to a G rated trailer tire.
firefighterontheside
Sometimes I think you and WV Sawmiller are in competition here!!! ;D
Back around '09-'10 I trucked horses coast to coast and ran G's on a couple different goosenecks. One being an Excess 40'. I would rotate them every 10,000 miles and they would last just about 100K before the tread was worn off. Pricey, but worth every penny. Always ran them at max PSI too.
I think it is kinder to a tyre to run it at its max psi. Less deformation in the walls per revolution, and less fatigue over its life.
Quote from: K-Guy on October 14, 2020, 04:12:04 PM
firefighterontheside
Sometimes I think you and WV Sawmiller are in competition here!!! ;D
I'll take that as a compliment. Lol.
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Oh no! Hoss down. No mud like that around here. Its way too dry.
Lynn,
Looks like a minor inconvenience. Nobody looks to be hurt, no major damage to expensive equipment, not even all that embarrassing compared to many of the things we typically see here. Stay safe. This too shall pass.
Looks like your doing a Southside
Quote from: Walnut Beast on August 02, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
Speaking of getting stuck. It's amazing the flotation of a wide track dozer has compared to a standard. Where a standard track would be instantly stuck a wide track can work just fine in wet ground
Agreed. But when you get a widetrack dozer stuck youre really stuck. I built a small pond by accident that way.. Rowing the 6 way blade to back out of it while water filled in from a groundspring i hit. Wasnt ever gonna dry back up after that.
20k forktruck will also help you find the groundwater.
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Keep us posted how you got that bad boy out Mike
If its all the same I will continue to use my divining rods to locate water it's really less trouble than using heavy equipment.
(Geez I probably just doomed myself to burying my tractor for that comment.)
I did actually bump one of my blade covers off lowering my mill head this evening because I didn't move a couple cants over far enough on the pallet forks. It managed to dink the blade and dull it on its a way down falling off. I should've looked a little closer before I started... just about a quarter inch too close to pass by..... ::)
Quote from: Walnut Beast on October 15, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
Looks like your doing a Southside
Hey - I represent that comment!!! :D
The John Deere has a new battery and after jumping across the mouse chewed wires I have it running, I have the logging wince, plus the F250 has a winch so we will get it out. Marty, Ben, and Collin will all be here in the morning to plant food plots so there will be plenty of help.
I subsoiled just before Hurricane Delta which is what caused this.
Well that is one way to cool the oil, just lower the oil pan in some cool water.
That makes sense MM. Have had the same thing happen after ripping ground.
Lynn:
Wrong piece of equipment for putting a pond in.
Gerald
Lynn,
Next time you plant food plots try going to an area you can plant rye instead of rice. :D :D Stay safe.
Creating habitat. The salamanders need a place to live, too :D.
Quote from: Walnut Beast on October 15, 2020, 10:13:15 PM
Keep us posted how you got that bad boy out Mike
That was years ago, a 648 skidder did the job. There is 230ish triaxle loads of fill dirt there now.
I built a shed on my tilt deck bobcat trailer. I planned to pull it off the trailer deck by chaining it to a tree and slowly drive away.
We jacked it up and put some 3"x12" oak dowel rollers under the runners and I pulled it off the trailer. very slowly, so we could place some 1 1/2"x6" x12" paver blocks under the white oak runners.
It all went very smooth and the shed ended up exactly were I wanted it.
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I was driving my pickup truck.
Now, here comes the dump part.
Once on the ground, the chain was tight from the shed runners to the tree. I hadn't planed on how to disconnect the chain.
I should have put a chain binder between the tree and the shed up tight so I could have loosened up the chain with making the binder longer.
We had to drive around and try and pull the shed closer to the tree to get the chain loose enough to disconnect.
Well, that didn't work. I pulled the chain hooks right out of the runners.
But, I got the chains back and off the tree.
Jim Rogers
It's all in the details.
QuoteI think it is kinder to a tyre to run it at its max psi. Less deformation in the walls per revolution, and less fatigue over its life.
Having all your trailer tires psi the same is just as important. When one tire is low next to a full pressure tire, heat builds up at highway speeds and that's when they will explode.
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John Deere easily pulled it out and then we got all of the seed/fertilizer in the ground and covered.
Now somebody gets to clean up the Hoss.
I hope the Orange said thank you to the green. Sounds like some Irish Protestant and Catholic story.
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Well then the Orange had to help the Green out!! :o
Wait, are you telling me that little bitty JD had to pull that big orange beast out of the bog? :D
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on October 16, 2020, 01:42:29 PM
I built a shed on my tilt deck bobcat trailer. I planned to pull it off the trailer deck by chaining it to a tree and slowly drive away.
We jacked it up and put some 3"x12" oak dowel rollers under the runners and I pulled it off the trailer. very slowly, so we could place some 1 1/2"x6" x12" paver blocks under the white oak runners.
It all went very smooth and the shed ended up exactly were I wanted it.
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I was driving my pickup truck.
Now, here comes the dump part.
Once on the ground, the chain was tight from the shed runners to the tree. I hadn't planed on how to disconnect the chain.
I should have put a chain binder between the tree and the shed up tight so I could have loosened up the chain with making the binder longer.
We had to drive around and try and pull the shed closer to the tree to get the chain loose enough to disconnect.
Well, that didn't work. I pulled the chain hooks right out of the runners.
But, I got the chains back and off the tree.
Jim Rogers
Next time you cant unhook a chain, try driving the pin out of the clevis hook with a little oil. Unless its guitar string tight this is usually not too hard. Getting something propped under the nearby links helps to stop it from boinging too much.
Thanks for that advice.
Jim Rogers
Anytime bud :)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on October 17, 2020, 10:37:22 PMWait, are you telling me that little bitty JD had to pull that big orange beast out of the bog?
No, the "rest of the story" was total humiliation. For payment Orange had to baby sit da Green Children and Reply #1124 above she is getting ready to change da diaper on da little Greenie. :o
:D :D :D
Pulled the cable out of the 3 pt winch this morning.
I am cuttings down by the road, I want a better view of the meadow on the way down and the field coming up. It's a slight drop off and of course big rocks. One tree slipped behind another tree as I was winching it in. So I thought I will just drive up the hill some and I can winch it up the hill just enough to get from behind the tree. I kept the cable hooked onto the tree and started up the hill. The cable got behind a big rock and I did not really think that would matter. I must of had about 75 feet of cable out and tried to go another 75 feet up the hill. I was almost there when I ran out of cable, 150 feet. Did not cost me money, just time and 6 inches of cable after I cut the end off for a nice clean cut and fit. I went to the tractor shed and looked in the toolbox for the allen wrench, I thought I should have it in there and it was. Not a big deal, but it's nice to have the right size tools when needed.
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I rounded the bend on Bent Mountain Road just before 8:00 a.m. this morning about 3 miles from my customer's site and caught a full eye full of direct sunlight. I slowed and pulled too far to the right to avoid hitting any on-coming traffic. Turns out the shoulder was about 12" wide if that, no guard rail and a steep drop off. I skidded a few feet to a stop and ended up resting with all 4 wheels off the ground and resting on the axles. If the truck had rolled there is nothing to indicate I would have stopped before rolling multiple times. I am convinced a 10 year old could have pushed it over as it was just teetering.
I called my customer to let him know I would be late and he offered to come right over with his big tractor. He showed up 15-20 minutes later with his helper following. He hooked to the rear end of my truck but when he put pressure on it the front slid further over the abyss so we stopped, I called and woke up my wife to call our local wrecker - I did not have their number accessible. She called back with the number and them wanting me to call so I did. Within 30 minutes the guy showed up with a rollback. He assessed the situation and decided we needed to pull the front and back at the same time and hooked a snatch block to a tree on the hillside above. He first started to hook to a dead 10" ash tree and I stopped him and pointed it out so he hoked further up to a sturdy maple, hooked to my truck pulled and promptly broke his new winch cable. I was certain my truck was going over the hill then but it did not. Finally he hooked the front of my truck to his rollback and my customer hooked his big tractor to the rear and they both pulled and eventually got it back on the road. My biggest fear was the truck would just spin on the chain from the tractor and chain from the rollback like a button spinning on a string. It was an absolute nail biter I would not wish on anyone! There was no apparent damage to the undercarriage or body damage. We spotted fluid on the ground but turned out was just a small amount of gasoline from my cans that had laid on their side. We all left and got to the work site about 2 hours late.
Well you rolled down a hill recently so you were due to catch a break!! Sorry you had the excitement. Glad it turned out well.
Yikes WV!!! Glad to hear in the end it all worked out. How much of a drop off is right there?
The first drop off was 10-12 ft with a steep angle. I would be surprised if I had stopped rolling in under 100'. I an sure the truck would have rolled at least 5-6 times.
Geez man! Holy cow that was close. Sometimes it is better to be be lucky than good. Today you were lucky. Man.
OGH,
That's a fact. While waiting on the wrecker the customer's helper walked over and rested his hand on the truck and I told him "Please don't do that!"
Ya know WV - thinking about it you and @goose63 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) would make a great team. Seems things roll over around you a lot - hard to do that in North Dakota. I bet Sampson would have a great time. Some awesome fishing!! Just saying, perhaps take a look at places that are less gravity impacted than where you are now. :D
I'm glad it was no worse than it was, WV. That sun thing can be quite a problem. Something about this time of year right now seems to put the sun at that low angle at the time we are all out traveling in the morning and the evening. Starting a couple hours late isn't so bad considering the other possibilities.
Whew! Glad it turned out okay!
Howard, you are starting to have too many new adventures.
might need a salve for the bottom of your truck "between" the tires.
Dang not a good way to strart a day!! Glad all is well.
Yikes. Glad you did not go for a roll. I've seen a lot in your predicament and I've seen a lot that went on down the hill. I'm a battalion chief and when I'm off sometimes one of my captains fills in as the BC. One guy always has the worst calls when he's filling in. A few years ago on an icy day he was at a wreck very similar to yours. The driver of the wrecked vehicle was sitting in the wrecker while his vehicle was being pulled. My captain was standing there watching and noticed that wrecker started to move on the ice. He yelled at the person sitting inside to get out. The guy jumped out right before the wrecker went right over the edge and rolled at least once. Then they had to get one of those huge wreckers to get the tow truck out and the original car. No one was hurt.
While I was sawing today my customer had a friend come over and he was describing my accident/near miss to him and the man told us a couple years ago a guy went over the hill in or near the same place under the same circumstances - blinded by bright morning sunlight, no shoulder on the road, no guard rails and a steep bank.
I had a similar one a few years ago. A winding road above a creek, I was within a mile of the job, a truck was coming at me with a gooseneck on, he was in that "close to home and just hopped in the truck" morning fog and was taking his half out of the middle so over the side I went. He's a good guy and usually a good driver, he drives for one of the nearby dairies but we all space out every now and then. He stopped, very apologetic and tried to pull me but it was obvious real quick that was going to roll my truck so we went and got my client with his truck and he chained to my front and kept it from going down while the neighbor pulled on my rear. Definitely not the way you want to start the day.
Sounds similar to mine as to the recovery. Wrecker guy had his rollback hooked to the front and tractor to the rear. As the tractor pulled the wrecker eased off the rollback but kept tension on it all the time.
I used to think it was funny when Danny Devito or Joe Peshi of someone would run off a bridge or something and just be teetering there and breathing a big sigh or relief then a fly would come light on the car and would be just enough to make it fall on over. I will think of yesterday morning every time I see one of those movies and they probably won't be quite as funny as they used to be.
felt like I was in the zone, finishing the bar tops for my cousin Mike. was kerfing the miter joint, and felt like my blade was too coarse and dull, so got a new carbide tipped high tooth count blade. hade to make temporary brackets to pull it together. got bolts to go through the holes to pull together. My Dad, Great uncle Bill and Uncle jerry would be proud that I used some scraps of an old bed frame to make the brackets. getting stuff done and taking names ect. ect.
after changing the blade and pulling miter together, I made the cut, but had not tightened the saw base.
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cut through the bolt with a new blade. OMG was only part of the phrase I used.
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It was otherwise going well. I had to flip the tops to put the brackets on the bottom. these will be used to glue it up on site and then removed. I though no big deal to have some holes on the bottom. could only flip one at a time since the miter points would be in the inside corner.
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looks pretty good. oh and could not find the pic where I forgot to flip the second top, so I have some holes to fill on what will be the top of the bar. should make for a good story. OMG. There, now don't the rest of you feel better now!
:( :) :D
Well that might shorten sawblade life a little. Its just the first funny story that bar top will hear, may it have many more....looks good btw.
Good to have a new blade on if hitting metal, better chance it doesn't ruin wood. smiley_thumbsup
It cut right through that bolt, we will see how it cuts wood now. I will turn to artistically filling the holes. I thought I was on a roll, and going to get this done, I must have been dreaming. ;) :)
Well, everyone knows new blades are attracted to metal. :D Glad you didn't get hurt. I am still not quite clear on how this 'kerfing the cut' thing works, but I am getting closer to an understanding. You are just lucky your saw didn't rip out of your hand and take flight.
As for the 'extra' holes, you could make some brass plugs to pound in and call it an 'accent'. ;D
so as the tops dried. the original miter I cut, no longer fit. the back of the bar tops also were out of square. so I made a cut to square the back. took a wedge off that was a taper from zero to 1/4 inch each side of the miter. then you butt the joint snug, thus the reason to get the brackets in place. they are temporary and will be used to glue the joint during installation. The method I use for cutting is the straight edge and a dewalt 18 volt circ-saw. so measure the offset from the edge of the saw base to blade. the goal is to have the blade go down the center of the miter. you saw down the miter using the straight edge. it removes the high spots and any variation in angle or direction, will match the other side, even if not perfect. so a tight miter by cutting both sides at the same time. it is caller kerfing as the cut is the kerf of the blade, and evens things up along a long miter. it is like stacking boards the way they come off the saw, so you match variation in the lumber such as a wave.
Doc:
You either had a very good blade or that bolt was a foreign made grade 0.
My medical expertise is very very close to zero, but me thinks you need more sleep.
I wish you and everyone a great Thanksgiving.
GAB
zinc coated Lowes bolt, new blade. I actually got sleep, felt like getting stuff done. about 4 projects going on. just not my day!
Well look at it this way - at least you are posting this on a forum that is related to your hobby, and not one related to your profession! :D
I was just thinking about my "did something dumb" thread this morning and realized it hadn't been used in quite a while. I was thinking it might be dead. Not that we all were not doing dumb things regularly, but maybe just didn't feel like posting about it. So, sorry about this Doc, but thanks for resurrecting my thread. When I have had to fill mistakes like that, I have drilled a hole with a forstner bit and then cut a plug from similar wood with a plug cutter. Thats the best way I've found to try and hide it. Of course the other option is to use a contrasting wood and make it look like you always planned it that way.
It's not going away anytime soon, I went out earlier to put round bales out for the critters and decided that I should move some of the firewood side dump load my buddy had dumped along the driveway. I don't have a grapple and just balance logs on my pallet forks. So a little 4 inch piece of Hackberry flips in behind the frame of the forks, ok no big deal it will slide off to the side if I raise my bucket as I back up. Well sort of ...for some reason it flipped funny and traced it's way along the loader arm and bounced off the flasher bracket on the cab side, some how didn't break the light housing but bent it a little. ::) Could've broke the window. ::) I was too worthless to get down and flip it off to the side, I was quitting and hauling one more bunch to the stack to go check the smoker for dinner. Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving and a safe one too?
so tried kerfing and it went fine, and here is the pick of the un-needed bracket holes. i might take hollow punch and make a filler from thin scraps i have, the holes are less than 1/8th inch.
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It will be kinda artsy. lots of different tones and colors on these pieces. even thought of mixing epoxy paste at differing amounts from tan to black, and maybe drawing some lines (grain) in with a sharpie. @tule peak timber (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=25190) .
Just claim a committee was involved with the design and the value of the piece will sky rocket. :D
Yeah, small holes, so wouldn't want to make holes bigger just to be able to use plugs. Tough call. Maybe whittle some little pieces from scraps of the wood with matching colors.
Quote from: Southside on November 26, 2020, 01:58:47 PM
Just claim a committee was involved with the design and the value of the piece will sky rocket. :D
The claims need to be well founded, and the committee large, for a ballistic vertical trajectory . Sometimes you can vie for the committee---- sometimes it conscripts you .
Have a good Thanksgiving. WOC
Doc, I like the top and your kerfing/clamping method. Also, it is refreshing to see a picture of your workspace with a little clutter. Happy Thanksgiving.
Yesterday evening I thought to saw a few more boards of that red Ironwood. I lowered the clamps for ending on a 2'' bottom board. Probably it wasn't a good idea to saw the upper boards with the clamps that low... The blade pulled the beam out of the clamps and smashed the sawblade guides :-\
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The 22 kw engine stopped immediately, that was quite a bang..
Dang. Thats a bummer. How long will that set you back.
My wife called me at the firehouse this morning and said the power was out. She was not happy, as she could not shop black friday deals online. We determined that the neighbors had power, so I told her to check the main breaker. It was fine and not tripped. Next I told her to check the overhead lines and the transformer. In particular I told her to locate the switch at the transformer and see if it was open. She was unable to identify the switch so she sent me a picture. I could clearly see the switch was open. Next I asked if a limb had fallen on the wires. We were on phone this whole time together and she paused a moment and then said, "there's a dead squirrel here". Power company arrived in 30 minutes and reset the switch. Crisis averted....except for the squirrel. RIP Rocky.
My mother RIP had a crow do that, all his buddys showed up for a wake then left so she could dispose of the well cooked carcass. :D
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I am surprised after the wake, they did not eat him.
Reminds me of a kid that was repelling off of the big steel transmission towers over the Conejeo grade about 25 years ago. The wind blew him across the wires and there he sat stunned on a steel girder , no clothes, no hair, no skin.Quite a photo of him just sitting....If I can find it on the internet I'll post.
Yikes.
Quote from: doc henderson on November 27, 2020, 03:34:55 PM
I am surprised after the wake, they did not eat him.
Overdone.
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Quote from: doc henderson on November 27, 2020, 03:34:55 PM
I am surprised after the wake, they did not eat him.
My wife is not good with dead animals, much less eating them. Several of her friends today have sent her recipes for squirrel.
I was talking about the crow, but i hear squirrel is good too. :) :) :)
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on November 27, 2020, 02:01:36 PM
Dang. Thats a bummer. How long will that set you back.
Yesterday I did some bending and welding, hopefully I can run today after some aligning. Fortunately no squirrels were harmed with this accident :D
Firefighter,
Hopefully they placed a animal guard over the bushing to keep a repeat from happening!
Tell your wife to shop fast. Rocky's friends may come looking for the same food or route he did!
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This incomplete pretzel used to be the top link off the Category 2 three point hitch on my tractor.
I was plowing my garden and hooked a rock with the 14" two bottom plow. At least this part gave instead of the 50 year old plow. The front tractor tires were 4' off the ground before I pressed the clutch pedal. It was the kind of excitement I don't want to have again!
That is outstanding and not dumb at all. It is the most interesting top link modification I have ever seen.
Quote from: SawyerTed on November 29, 2020, 11:32:14 AM
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This incomplete pretzel used to be the top link off the Category 2 three point hitch on my tractor.
I was plowing my garden and hooked a rock with the 14" two bottom plow. At least this part gave instead of the 50 year old plow. The front tractor tires were 4' off the ground before I pressed the clutch pedal. It was the kind of excitement I don't want to have again!
You might want to consider purchasing a trip beam plow. It helps avoid doing wheelies in rocky ground.
You need to hang that top link in your shop as I think it will make for an interesting conversation piece.
Glad you are ok.
GAB
Quote from: samandothers on November 28, 2020, 09:44:30 PM
Firefighter,
Hopefully they placed a animal guard over the bushing to keep a repeat from happening!
Tell your wife to shop fast. Rocky's friends may come looking for the same food or route he did!
I was home yesterday and right before I got rid of the squirrel that was still laying there, tail sticking straight up in the air, whole underside burnt to a crisp, I looked at the switch. All that they did was close it. Im sure it will happen again, but hopefully it will be another 20 years.
I guess its a good thing the top link crumpled, otherwise the front would have been higher than 4'.
Quote from: GAB on November 29, 2020, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: SawyerTed on November 29, 2020, 11:32:14 AM
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This incomplete pretzel used to be the top link off the Category 2 three point hitch on my tractor.
I was plowing my garden and hooked a rock with the 14" two bottom plow. At least this part gave instead of the 50 year old plow. The front tractor tires were 4' off the ground before I pressed the clutch pedal. It was the kind of excitement I don't want to have again!
You might want to consider purchasing a trip beam plow. It helps avoid doing wheelies in rocky ground.
You need to hang that top link in your shop as I think it will make for an interesting conversation piece.
Glad you are ok.
GAB
Thanks I am ok for sure! I was quick to the clutch and got the front of the tractor down.
It might be cheaper to dig out the rock! 😂 Have you seen two bottom plow prices? $$$$$. It will be even cheaper to just leave that part out of the garden. Thankfully the rock is near the edge.
I only plow my garden and two or three food plots a year. I often use a 6' rotary tiller but decided to subsoil and plow this year.
well.... since my mill is down waiting on parts as of wednesday.. I figured I would bring home the new Kubota and get my tire studs installed! that went great and so I decided to install the quick hitch on the tractor as well.. this is where it went bad.. I was just about happy with the quick hitch settings and decided to pull the tractor from the pole barn into the garage to tighten up the bolts and then go in and enjoy football.. thats when I heard a very loud BOOM!!! I didn't shut the door on my 4 week old MX5400 cab tractor and the glass door cought the center of my pole barn and shattered!!
I thought I was gonna throw up! its been a rough few days with the mill and now the tractor.. so I guess I will be trying to order a new glass door tomorrow! the bad part is that they are super behind right now and I probably will be waiting a long time for the new door..
no good!
When it rains it pours! I am due to pull a bonehead stunt any time now and getting paranoid. :D
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hope you get the new door by spring. :snowball: :( I hate it when that happens
Do you have the Kubota insurance? I know when I financed my tractor it was required to pay for a policy to cover accidental damage. As an example the dealer told me he had a customer try loading logs with his new tractor, and at full lift the logs rolled backwards down the loader arms, smashing the steering wheel and dash. Luckily he was OK.
Oh man. That one is hard pill to swallow.
No. I have regular insurance. I'm hoping to be able to buy the glass and just install it myself.. I saw a few companies that sell glass for tractors. Im gonna call them in the morning.
Ouch, I hope it isn't one of the curved glass ones.
That top link looks impressive, I've bent some but that takes the cake. I cracked the tranny cover on my old MF when an iceberg style rock flopped back down on the forks, about got a lift cylinder enema out of that one :D. Google Dexpan if you ever need to bust a big rock, we call it non exploding dynamite. It works good under houses and such when we hit a troublemaker.
I picked a custom plexi glass cab door window instead of glass when mine exploded a few years ago. Did it slamming the door shut not sure exactly how.
Between power line roasted squirrel and a smashed tractor cab door that little top link incident seems rather tame. As impressive as the bends are in the top link, it clearly lacks the humor of scorched rodent and certainly lacks the fiscal pain of the broken glass.
I was pleasantly surprised today... the glass in 418.00 plus tax and shipping through Kubota. the aftermarket glass companies that claim to have the glass dont carry any of the smaller tractor cab glass like my little MX 5400.. now just waiting to hear back as to how quick I can get it from Kubota.... really hoping to be able to get it within a few weeks! I thought it would be more money... not that thats cheap but it could of been worse.
yes, I would much rather have your bent top link!! lol
All in the aftermarket top link was about $47.00. That's about 1/10 the price of the cab glass and sort of boring compared to electrified squirrels and crows.
Didn't price the Kubota top link. The aftermarket unit is beefier but doesn't have grease fittings. Zerks are easy enough installed if I need to but probably not worth the trouble. Grease can be applied if necessary.
Glad the cab glass isn't stupid expensive.
Glad to hear it wasnt that bad. Get it fixed like new so there's no reminder every time you open it.
All this talk about electrified squirrels is bad luck. At 4:45 p.m. today, a squirrel fried himself on the transformer on the service pole to my house blowing the line fuse on the main powerline 1/2 mile away :). From 200 feet away and in the house, I heard the POP when the power went out. And, if I had a glass door on my tractor, I would have probably broke that too :).
Quote from: Don P on November 29, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
Ouch, I hope it isn't one of the curved glass ones.
That top link looks impressive, I've bent some but that takes the cake. I cracked the tranny cover on my old MF when an iceberg style rock flopped back down on the forks, about got a lift cylinder enema out of that one :D. Google Dexpan if you ever need to bust a big rock, we call it non exploding dynamite. It works good under houses and such when we hit a troublemaker.
Just watched the Dexpan YouTube video. That's impressive stuff for rock breaking! Is it expensive?
Quote from: Durf700 on November 30, 2020, 04:55:54 PM
I was pleasantly surprised today... the glass in 418.00 plus tax and shipping through Kubota. the aftermarket glass companies that claim to have the glass dont carry any of the smaller tractor cab glass like my little MX 5400.. now just waiting to hear back as to how quick I can get it from Kubota.... really hoping to be able to get it within a few weeks! I thought it would be more money... not that thats cheap but it could of been worse.
yes, I would much rather have your bent top link!! lol
Did you try through a&i? I work at a ag and auto parts store and we order alot of cab glasses through them
It's been a few years but I think it was about a hundred bucks a box for the dexpan. We hit a granite boulder underneath a house about the size of a volkswagen. It took 2 boxes but was about the only way to break it up under there. Basically drill it just like you were going to shoot it. The Hilti drill was about $1200 but they can be rented. I've used it a whole lot since then, in fact today. I'm under another house that is on vertical shale which is too soft for the dexpan. The dexpan only works on hard rock. By the sawmill a couple of hard sandstone boulders fell into the creek this summer pretty much right in front of a 3' culvert that are too big for the Lull to lift so I'll probably get a couple of boxes and split them when I have time.
Quote from: Kwill on November 30, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Durf700 on November 30, 2020, 04:55:54 PM
I was pleasantly surprised today... the glass in 418.00 plus tax and shipping through Kubota. the aftermarket glass companies that claim to have the glass dont carry any of the smaller tractor cab glass like my little MX 5400.. now just waiting to hear back as to how quick I can get it from Kubota.... really hoping to be able to get it within a few weeks! I thought it would be more money... not that thats cheap but it could of been worse.
yes, I would much rather have your bent top link!! lol
Did you try through a&i? I work at a ag and auto parts store and we order alot of cab glasses through them
I was only able to find the glass right through Kubota.. the good news is nothing is on backorder so my rep said it should be in within 10-14 days!!!! this makes me feel much better!!! I even ordered new weather stripping and steel handle that got bent that bolts to inside of the glass door..
OH man, what is wrong with squirrels these days? Don't they know to be careful around energized electrical equipment? I do have a photo of barbecued squirrel, but decided it was best not to post it.
Less than $500 to fix the door seems pretty good. When I did my move a few months ago and broke both of my curl cylinders that cost me $650 and I was happy with that. My cylinders needed to be rebuilt anyway, because they would sag down in a matter of minutes.
For my latest trick.....I was so mentally exhausted last night after days of trying to keep a fire department manned that I accidentally took my sons medicine. Wife asked me to get it ready for him. Got the 2 pills out and then my brain just said, "you're holding pills, it must be time to take medicine" When she asked if I had his pills ready, I was like, uh oh. I remember taking a drink of water, but not actually swallowing the pills. I went to bed right after that. The med was not a concern for me.
When you get tired bad things can happen. Hopefully you will get some time off and recover.
So just to get this back to the top for the weekend... I just about broke the recoil rope on my 390 Honda on the mill. I saw the frayed end pop through the grommet at the end of the pull last time I started the motor. Now I haven't done it yet....so this is just to reinforce the fact that if I have daylight left after work today I need to fix it FIRST before I absent mindedly try to start the mill. Just trying to stave off a potential not so glorious moment and the use of those special words. :)
FFOS- hope you've gotten some rest.
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It has taken a few weeks to work up the humility to share this because d4mn it it WAS SERIOUSLY dumb!
So in August the Doctor and I were fortunate enough to add a new boat to the stable.
About six weeks ago I installed a nice boat cover on the boat but I didn't have enough 1" nylon straps to completely secure the cover. I bought additional strapping and plastic buckles in a kit to secure the cover.
Of course I had to cut the straps to length since the material came on a 50' roll. The ends needed to be burned/melted so they wouldn't fray.
I decided to use my propane torch to melt the ends and pinch them with pliers to provide a uniform end. It didn't work out too good. I worked my way around the boat cutting straps, burning the ends of the straps and pinching the ends with pliers.
Apparently one strap didn't get put out completely, it smoldered and reignited. Did I say the cover was on the boat?
A couple minutes later as I worked on the opposite side of the boat, I smelled smoke. When I checked, the cover was on fire. It wasn't a big fire and thankfully it didn't catch the boat on fire. I put the fire out with my insulated shirt but managed to burn both hands pretty badly. It burned a section of cover about 40" long and 10" wide. The cover material is acrylic and the straps are nylon with plastic buckles. All that synthetic material was a molten sticky plastic that burned my hands and left 2nd and 3rd degree burns.
In retrospect I should have cut all the straps to length, pulled off the boat/cover/trailer and melted the ends of the straps on a bench. Did I say DUMB.
Thankful it didn't turn out worse....
Dang, man, I hope your burns have completely healed.
ouch!! that sucks... one of those things that you could do 99 out of 100 times and not have that problem... hope your hands heal up quickly!
Glad your ok 👍
Not good! Hope you are healing well and no infection issues. Think of the fun times next summer at Ocracoke and hopefully the pain will ease.
If it makes you feel better, I can completely see myself doing the same thing. I'm glad you didn't lose the boat.
Heal fast.
Sorry to hear sawyerted. Hope you are feeling better.
So I have been at this FD for 27 years. I can't tell you how many times we have been dispatched to a fire at a crematorium in the middle of the night because people see smoke and flames coming from the furnace stack. We always get there and disregard all incoming trucks. Well, this morning at 5 that all changed. Heavy fire and smoke in the building. Within 10 minutes of getting there there was fire coming thought the roof. As the incident commander I struck a second alarm when all firefighters on scene were working. In about 45 minutes we had the fire under control. Couldn't save the "occupants", 23 previously deceased bodies. The only one that burned was the one that was actually being cremated. Our guys did have to move 9 bodies to a different part of the buillding that was unaffected.
well, I started to push the like button, but always feel that it implies the wrong sentiment in statements like this. even though the folks were already gone, it would add insult to injury to the families to have their family members bodies unceremoniously burned. thanks for being there with all due respect.
good news today!! I got the call that my glass, seal and new door handle was in from Kubota!!! I ran over and picked up on lunch break and just finished installing my new glass and stuff on the tractor! I feel much better now to have the door fixed!! :) I didn't even go out to the barn and look at the tractor till tonight when I fixed it.. now I can hopefully get back to some milling this friday!
It's always a relief when the reminder of an accident is gone!
Man that's a nice boat... who says sawing lumber doesn't pay 8)
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 09, 2020, 04:52:29 PM
It's always a relief when the reminder of an accident is gone!
did you get a new tarp on that nice boat yet?
The new boat is only possible for three reasons. One is my dear wife retired in December of 2018 only to go to work part time in August of 2019. She's an adjunct faculty member at a nearby university. The second is sawmilling does turn a bit of profit. The third is my banker is loaning money like crazy! 😜
The boat cover burned section is about 12" x 40" once I cut the burned area out. My daughter is sewing a patch we will be sewing to the bigger cover some time next week. The semi custom cover was $500 so a fix will be easier than replacement.
FWIW my hands have healed considerably and I'll be back to sawing next week. No infection but apparently small bits of molten plastic was embedded in the burns. My body has been rejecting those little bits of plastic. It IS gross! 🤢
Well, this is embarrassing! I needed to make a call this morning and couldn't find my phone. I retraced my steps after taking the mutt for a walk but nothing. I saw a friend active on facebook so asked her to call me. I heard it ring but couldn't locate it so finally sat down on the easy chair and felt a vibration in my butt, I was sitting on it! The DanG thing was in my hip pocket with my wallet. I have no idea why I put it there so blamed the dog but she didn't care.
sawguy 21 Sir:
After blaming the dog, I hope you fed the pooch an extra scoop and sure am glad there was no blood letting or trips to the hospital.
GAB
I live by the old saying "a place for everything and everything in its place" but only on the Tuesday after Easter.
I feel your pain! Looked for my hunting rifle this morning for a minute or so until I realized it was on my shoulder
sawguy21, We're getting at that age now! ;)
Frustrating at times, but it's going to happen now and then! ;D
I did something dumb today. Read the "Trump" thread. :D :D :D
Quote from: WDH on December 13, 2020, 08:18:07 AM
I did something dumb today. Read the "Trump" thread. :D :D :D
Oh dear!
Wouldn't be a day without me doing something dumb.
Quote from: WDH on December 13, 2020, 08:18:07 AM
I did something dumb today. Read the "Trump" thread. :D :D :D
So, Danny, where's this "Trump" thread?
It lost the election. ;D
The "Trump" thread is in Restricted Topics.
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370)
I looked back a couple of pages and didn't see a post by you?
I only read it because I am an Admin. I do not typically post in the Restricted Topics.
Well it has been quite a while since I made a contribution here, and even now I am not admitting to anything but I do have a question: You know those jugs that windshield washer fluid comes in?? Well do you folks how long it takes to unwrap and extricate one of them from the final stage of a 3 stage snow blower? Just askin'. :D ;D
The answer, as it turns out, is about 20 freezing cold minutes and you will likely tear up your gloves in the process.
Probably not as long as it takes to unwrap 50' of extension cord or garden hose from a 6' wide tractor PTO driven snow blower. (Don't ask me how I know this). ;D
Not as long as it takes to unwrap 1/4 mile of electric fence wire from.a hay tedder.....at least that's what I hear😁
I sawed all day yesterday and didn't do anything dumb, rare. Steve
Quote from: breederman on December 17, 2020, 03:41:56 PM
Not as long as it takes to unwrap 1/4 mile of electric fence wire from.a hay tedder.....at least that's what I hear😁
Or 200 yards of high tensile wire from a PTO driven 6' rotary tiller....I heard that from somebody else too 🙄
Fence wire and garden hoses are not very exciting. I have to say the snow looked like a ran a Smurf through a wood chipper. Such a pretty blue hue ALL over. Like a giant snow cone. :D
OG, I would gladly have to extricate the plastic bottle from the snow blower if it meant I could have some snow to plow, shovel, throw, ski in.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on December 17, 2020, 09:01:56 PM
OG, I would gladly have to extricate the plastic bottle from the snow blower if it meant I could have some snow to plow, shovel, throw, ski in.
Be careful what you ask for! :D ;D
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
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The cut mark on your mill IS your badge.
I'm sure glad I've never done anything like that. ::) :D :D
That big pile of baling twine next to the barn from feeding the horses got a bit smaller when I snagged it in the snow blower. I think I will start a new bed time prayer..."Please do not let me do something dumb tomorrow".
God likes a little humor now and then, he will probably just smile. :)
I worked in small engine shops and have no idea how many miles of twine, barbed wire, extension cord I have cut out of snowblowers. I have the scars to prove it.
Quote from: JoshNZ on December 18, 2020, 01:17:28 AMAt last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
And your chainsaw rescue skills are impressive.
Just the right amount of downward cut to get you back to sawing without wasting the next board.
Carry on the good work! ;D
Quote from: JoshNZ on December 18, 2020, 01:17:28 AM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
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A couple of weeks ago. I didn't just skim the backstop I sawed into it at sawing speed about 5 or 6 inches from the top. I did it in front of my customer/neighbor, his dad and his crowd of cronies who were standing around smoking, chewing, watching and editorializing.
Well, I might as well come clean, that was me yesterday who wrapped that antifreeze jug in the snow blower. And today, I topped it. I was doing the extra work to cut a path out to the wood stack where the snow has exploded one of the high tarps I had it covered with. I thought it split down the middle, but I was wrong. At at rate, all the guy ropes snapped 'with energy' and flew off into the woods like rubber bands, BUT I managed to find one and wrapped about 20' of it around the first ands second stage auger shafts. That took over an hour, in the shop, and I had to take that 1st stage halfway apart. That nylon rope wrapped up inside the plastic bushing sleeve with enough force to pop the c-clip off. What a mess. My Dad was right, I have to learn the hard way, always.
The good news is, the tarp did not split and I can reset it tomorrow, I am too pooped now and have to do a gas run.
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Quote from: JoshNZ on December 18, 2020, 01:17:28 AMAt last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
And your chainsaw rescue skills are impressive.
Just the right amount of downward cut to get you back to sawing without wasting the next board.
Carry on the good work! ;D
Kind of easy when the blade has climbed up away from the cut, I had a 1/2" of padding to play with there.
I've had the mill sawing for over a year now and it's the first time I've hit it smiley_crying. In that year I've often thought, this blade is buggered, and I know that backstop must be close, and I've gotta get my first one out of the way at some point, so I'll just risk it haha. Epitome of laziness. And yet I'd never hit it. This time I just forgot :-\
Quote from: JoshNZ on December 18, 2020, 01:17:28 AM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
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Apparently you haven't made a blade guard yet to prevent this ;D
I once wound a significant chunk of overhead triplex up into my brush mower. It had been moved, not by me..... ::)
Quote from: Nebraska on December 19, 2020, 12:18:10 AM
I once wound a significant chunk of overhead triplex up into my brush mower. It had been moved, not by me..... ::)
You gotta stop mowing the pole tops.
I am trying to envision his height adjustment.
Honestly a knot headed horse moved it for me. It was laid out to hang on a pole between two barns. Fred had the sweetest personality, but your fence better be really hot, and two chains on the gates oh, yeah don't leave anything within reach or he was playing with it. Like a giant Labrador.
My neighbors son had borrowed a 3/8 cable while he was learning to drive, bombing around the farm in one of the retired trucks. I found it while bush hogging, what a mess, that took an angle grinder and much blood letting :D.
End of Nov. I welded a quick release plate onto my fork frame so I could add the snow plow to it for winter. Yesterday I needed the bucket on so I pulled the release lever and backed out of the quick frame. Worked great BUT your supposed to unhook the hydro lines for the plow too. Broke the 90° right at the swing piston >:( :( :o.
I put my grapple bucket on and attached the hydraulic hoses, but did not latch the quick attach. it fell off the first time I rolled it forward.
Ok I've done that with the, hay spear, pallets forks and the bucket.. .
A week ago I ordered a quick attach brush grapple. Hmmm.. Thats probably a good reason to make my hoses a little longer with a tear away zip tie or something. I hadn't thought about that consequence yet.
After reading posts about chainsaw scabbards and best place to mount them on tractors and/or logging winches, I thought to myself I really should fab up something similar. I usual put the saw in the bucket, and I haven't managed to dump it like others were talking about.
Then yesterday, I needed to nudge a log with the forks... yep dumped the saw right out onto the logs :)
Fortunately there was no damage to saw. So fabricating a saw holder just became a top of the list project now that I joined the dumped it club!
Quote from: Rhodemont on December 18, 2020, 10:30:03 AMThat big pile of baling twine next to the barn from feeding the horses got a bit smaller when I snagged it in the snow blower.
It can't be as bad as cutting 100 ft. plus of barbed wire off the rear axle of a jeep after being up all night on exercise with the army. :rifle: smiley_furious
How about accidentally laying out 1000 feet of 5" hose off of a firetruck. I'm sure you know that we carry hose on the top of the truck to be laid from a hydrant to a fire. Well, I was working about 15 years ago at one of our stations and I heard a sound outside like someone dragging a large piece of metal behind a truck. I ran outside to see what was going on. I got out there just in time to see a neighboring department firetruck drive by with the end of the 5" hose and coupling dragging behind. Just as they went by the hose began laying out behind the truck. I hurriedly called the chief of that department and said you need to tell your truck that they just laid 1000 feet of hose down the road. He called the truck and told them what had happened. They had no idea. We had to close the road down for an hour or so while we loaded all the hose back on the truck.
Another time, a hoseline that we keep accordion loaded on the front bumper of the truck and is preconnected to piping in the bumper fell off. The nozzle fell over the side and proceeded to get wound up in one of the duals like it was spool. 200' of hose wrapped up in the dual and then when all the hose was rolled up and tight it ripped the pipe off the bumper. The chief was none too happy, but these things happen and are the price of doing our business. He was over it in a short order.
K-Guy,
Try that with concertina instead of barbwire!
Either one is bad, only, concertina is FAR worse.
One of my clients was a safety officer for a big trash hauling company. He got the call one morning, one of the dumpster trucks had left the industrial park with his load too high, caught a phone line and took it down. As Dave is arriving on scene he notices they haven't coned the area yet and the line is laying in the road. As he is getting out of his car a small truck drives over the line, picks it up on his wheel and is heading down the road unawares, reeling it in. The little truck gets to the end of its tether, the line snatches taught, jerks the rears off the ground and parts the line. Dave is standing there watching it all unfold. The line whips up in the air, arcs over the 3 phase line supplying the industrial park, a light show ensues, and the park goes dark. He showed up later in the day at the job just shaking his head, a few hundred dollar incident turned into a disaster right before his eyes :D.
Yeah, thats a mess. I don't know how many calls I've gone to where a dump truck has driven away from a job with the bed all the way up. On one, I think the truck took down about 4 power poles and wires down everywhere. Show up with driver still sitting in truck afraid to get out.
That has happened more than once with highway overpasses. One did that with an overheight load on 99, the Canadian side of I-5. He kept going but got stopped by the next one. He lost his cdl permanently over that, it wasn't his first violation.
My buddy that runs a tree service has a bucket truck. The driver was on his way to a job, the bucket, which was properly stowed, caught a cable tv cable that was hanging too low. It took out 7 power poles, three were broken, four were pulled down. Power went out for several thousand. The power company filed suit against my buddy for over $100,000. The highway patrol officer that responded to the accident had reported the cable several times so my buddy's insurance was off the hook. The cable company had to foot the bill for the mayhem.
My turn!!
I cut a small dead pine, maybe 8 inches at the stump. It did not have the weight to come to the ground, got hung up in some other branches, kinda like cedar does. So I winched it down with my 3 pt winch on my tractor. It bounced when it hit the ground and I got a lot of slack in the cable, which is normal. Note the a lot of slack. I kept on winching it in, which I know better. Brought it up to the so called wood yard up by the house and all is fine.
Yesterday I went into the woods to use it, had some more dead wood to get out before we went for Christmas, I grabbed onto the cable and got about 8 feet out and that was it. I pulled on by hand, did nothing, closet tree was 10 feet away. Should of known than it would not turn out good. I backed the tractor up some and hooked a chain on to that tree and drove forward. The winch stopped the tractor. Oh well just have to give it some more throttle. ::) Front wheels comes off the ground that time. :o I looked inside the winch to see the problem, hard to see in there and does look bad, so I try it again. Same thing with the front wheels. Not good. So I unhook and head it for the garage. Than I remembered the last time I used it. I know better, all that slack must of got wrapped up wrong. I get to the garage and get my head lamp to see inside the winch better. I turn the drum and can see it, it is wrapped around itself. I try to get it out, but with only a 8 inch hole, and off to the side of the drum, I can't really get at it. So off comes the mast, top part of the winch. I've had it off many years ago, 20 years ago. When I take it off I am looking right at the problem. When the cable got slack it somehow wrapped around itself. At first I thought I was going to have to cut the slides off and feed it through that wrapped up place. But I took a bar and kept rotating the drum and get some slack and got it unraveled. And what a mess I had!!! It's no longer straight in 2-3 places, and one bad kink. Had quite a mess of cable in about a foot square area inside the winch. But I kept pushing and pulling and got it. Than I put it all back together and headed for the woods again. I knew where there was a good size pine that broke off and headed for that. I knew I needed some hard pulling to get the cable straight again, if I could. I Had a little bit of a hard time getting the cable through the pulley, it was twisted real bad. With it laying on the ground it did not look good at all, it was more coiled than straight. I winched in one length of that pine, kept it a good 40 feet away and than went back for the top of it, kept that about 40 feet away and than went back for a smaller tree that was there. Than I brought it all up to the tractor. Did not lock it in, pulled the tractor the full length of the cable, and the cable did not look bad. Even the place that kinked real bad looked good. Would not want to handle the cable with no gloves. I did that about 3 times and all looks good. Did not do the cable much good. :( :o But that cable has been on there for years, maybe 5 years?? Maybe I need to buy another one as a spare. :) Not really, at probably more than $200 I doubt it. Only doing this for my own use. But the mess only cost me about a hour and a half of time. Lucky. But saying that, I still might have to buy one because it may not wind on the drum right when I have a light load.
Well, at least you got it figured out before worse damage was done, like flipping the tractor or breaking the winch. Here at the FD we have big breathing air compressors. They have a hose reel that you pull out to fill large air bottles that are mounted in the trucks. The reel is spring rewind, so guys are constantly letting it rewind too fast which causes the hose to get wrapped around the spool like you had happen. Its a major undertaking to get that fixed. We used to have to call in the service company to fix, but finally one day I had him show me how to fix it.
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Some winches backlash worse than others! My ATV winch does the same thing sometimes, it's a might bit easier to get the over wraps pulled loose. A shot of silicone spray helps considerably.
I know better on winching a tree down. It happens almost every time.
Just be very careful with a cable that has been kinked.
It may have lost up to 50% of its strength.
Better to replace the cable soonest. Before it fails!
Take care
Silverfox
Ran over my Christmas present new chainsaw with my tractor :-\, fortunately the ground was moderately muddy, so the chainsaw kinda buried up. Only broke the chain brake. It was end of the day of cutting and stacking firewood, and wasn't paying attention. ... lesson learned :D
Ouch, good it's repairable and not a few salvage parts, welcome btw.
So your second post on this forum is the Did Something Dumb thread. I hope for you that's not a trend. What chainsaw was it? Don't feel too bad though. I started this thread when I knocked the blade off of my mill. Now there's over 1200 posts. Welcome aboard.
Welcome we are glad you are on the Forestry Forum but joining this thread so soon might not be good! :D
Glad it was just a chainsaw and no doctors were involved in this incident!
Thanks for the welcome. I had just bought the chainsaw, a huskavarna 545, as an upgrade from the 450. Not normally boneheaded, but had a long day and just forgot I set it there. Even my wife felt bad for me. It did start right up afterwards, but I gotta clean it up and fix the chain brake handle. Hopefully my last entry in the "Did something dumb today"; at least for awhile :D
Running over a saw in not a good thing.
I made this for my saw.
There's a few threads on this, but I like the saw where I can see it when I get on the tractor. Been a few times I went to take off and stopped, no chainsaw!!!! I got off and put the chainsaw where it belonged. Made it all out of wood, plywood.
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Yesterday I was taking a 2' x4' fluorescent light down off the trusses in my shop so I could put up more plywood ceiling. I was on at 8 foot step ladder I started to lose my balance and let go of the light. In the process it came down and hit my thumb And gave me a pretty bad cut and started bleeding all over. Went to the house to wash it out and bandage it up and my wife and daughter were in the kitchen. Both of them very adamant that I go get stitches. I could not talk them out of it. So to keep the peace I went. So, after being in the waiting room for over two hours I walked up to the desk and ask where am I on the list. They said " there is 11 people in front of you ". I said " I'm out ". I am not a hospital person. So my wife and daughter are not happy with me. By now they ought to know . Someone said something about old guys and ladders.
I can`t tell you how many times I`ve been told "you better go get that stitched" and I didn`t. sometimes hospitals can do more harm than good. I would be sitting there wondering how long before someone passes on covid.
Supper glue, Nuff said. :)
I keep a suture kit available in my first aid. I will clean out a cut and stitch myself up if possible. I see no need to wait and pay someone for what I can do myself.
I'm inclined to get stitches if my hand is involved. As inconvenient as it is, it makes the total healing time go quicker. Covid might influence my decision right now though.
The last time I had surgery they used super glue to close the incision.
Would that work on fingers?
GAB
They tend not to use glue on areas that stretch due to movement, such as knuckles, knees, etc.
I just cleaned it and applied Neosporin and bandaged it up. It's not the first time. Super works also. It wasn't a problem to me , it was more of a battle that I didn't want to fight at the time.
I have stitched myself and a few others up out in the shop. a friends mother at our kitchen table, and taught her daughter to do it as she was in NP school. lots of steri-strips (butterfly) with skin prep (tincture of Benzoin). glue is great on flat surfaces that you can get together. pops open over the backside of a knuckle as mentioned.
Steri-strips have saved me a few stitches and trips to the emergency clinic. I find that super glue to hold the steri-strip ends in place is better than super gluing a laceration together. I've done both. The last time the steri-strips super glued in place stayed about 7 or 8 days. When I re-dressed the cut, I used steri-strips alone for 4 or 5 more days. As with any laceration, cleaning the wound prior to applying steri-strips is essential.
My turn (again).
So I am mixing up some epoxy getting ready to make a small pour and as you know, the mixing time can get really boring. So I am stirring with my right hand and decide to have a cigarette to pass the time and reach into my shirt pocket and get one out with my left hand then fumble around in there for my bic lighter. Well, I fumbled with it and dropped it. Did I mention I was upstairs in the loft work area? Well anyway it bounced off the end of the loft and down to the shop floor. So I gave a couple more stirs then ran downstairs to fetch it and get back before I missed too much mixing time. I glanced at the woodstove in the unlikely event that the lighter landed there, then looked all around on the floor, under the stove and wood carts and began widening my search when I figured out where it was because ....
Well, do you folks have any idea the kind of noise a Bic lighter can make when it sits on a working wood stove? Holy cow that was loud. I saw traces of pieces flying in at least 3 directions, but it was pretty blurry.
I went back upstairs and finished the mixing and the pour. Then came back but after 20 minutes of searching only found 2 little yellow shards of the lighter. No idea where it went. Apparently it bounced behind the chimney on the top of the stove and just laid there until the inevitable happened. Or so I am guessing based on the little white shadow on the stove top that wasn't there before.
I just got that lighter yesterday. Dang.
Whoa, that could have been a lighter of things other than cigarettes.
Yes, it was 'very enthusiastic'.
Sort of like shooting a raccoon with a .270 inside a tobacco barn! I'll never do that again! I carry a .22 pistol for that sort of thing, now.
Glad the lighter explosion wasn't worse! My luck, it would have started a fire!
:D I bet your ears were ringing.
WHAT!?
Yeah, for a little bit. :D
Someone trying to get you to stop smoking :D
we had a scout lay a lighter on top of the wood stove in our mess tent. no harm to anyone, but no one in the tent will do that again.
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we had a scout lay a lighter on top of the wood stove in our mess tent. no harm to anyone, but no one in the tent will do that again.
Yes, I too shall avoid repeating the experience. Its kind of like a flash-bang without much flash.
Several years ago I was working on the water heater for my camper. It wasn't heating the water, so I did some electrical checking and then turned it on again to see if it started working. When it's working I can hear gurgling on the outside panel. Well, I had the panel off and put my ear right down by the thing to see if I could hear it. Well, right then the dang heating element blew up and a part of it hit my face. I felt like someone had fired a gun right by my face. After running away and feeling my face for blood, I realized I was gonna be fine, but I did have tinnitus for a few days. Don't do that.
Reminds me of the time I needed to use my oxy-acetylene torch, and couldn't find the flint striker. Tried using the electric push button igniter off a hand held propane torch instead. Definitely won't do that again. :o
A few years ago a safety bulletin did the rounds in the Oil Rigs in the North Sea.
Apparently Two men had been injured by exploding plastic gas lighters.
One lost his leg and the other was disembowelled.
Both were welding and had lighters in their pockets. The report mentioned that a plastic lighter had the same energy potential as 2oz of Gelignite.
Apparently a spark from the welding melted the casing and ignited the compressed Gas.
So be careful with plastic lighters.
Take care.
Silverfox.
Back in the early 70's I worked in a shop that had about 4 welders as part of the crew. The foreman read about a welder who had a plastic lighter in his shirt pocket. Some slag hit it and it blew a hole in his chest.
That day he went out to the shop and confiscated every plastic lighter and replaced them with a zippo, a can of fluid, and a pack of flints. Every new welder hired was given the same treatment after that. Using a plastic lighter was a suspension offense and the second time you were fired.
Yes, they can be dangerous. I got my reminder. Still haven't found the remains beyond two shards.
I don't know if I mentioned this elsewhere here or not but I'm currently (since around June 2020) taking a part of my house that was covered by roof but not enclosed and turning it into a workshop. We got concrete poured, framing and walls up and the wife is handling electricity.
Within the past month or so I've rearranged things in the garage and moved my major tools into the workshop area and finally a few weeks ago I could start using it as a workshop while finishing a few minor things up. Unfortunately the shop isn't big enough and we only had power outlets in places where, to use my planer, I had to plug it in with the cord stretched out, hanging above the floor by about a foot and a half. As it's still all a work in progress and I was working on a project there was a fair amount of junk here and there but I was doing pretty well to step over the cord. I probably made it 30 times with no trouble. Then once with trouble. I got caught on it and basically jumped, knee first, onto the concrete floor, causing a very minor fracture in my right kneecap and hitting my chest on a plastic tool box on my way to falling to the ground.
I got very lucky in that I didn't need surgery and now 3 and a half weeks later I'm feeling ok.
A reminder to keep your walkways clear. My lovely wife came out about 5 minutes later and started straightening things out. We'll see if I learned a lesson. I also may have had some beverages that lead to this accident...
I guess it was dumb - it was annoying and frustrating. Last night about 9:00 p.m. we had a power outage. I guess a big tree fell on the main line down the road somewhere. Our back-up genset fired up 10 seconds later and switched power to the genset for about 30 seconds then went off. I found a dim headlight and went out and opened the cover. I noticed an "Underspeed warning". I tried resetting the machine and pulled out the 7.5 amp blade fuse and checked it which really was dumb - if it was blown the warning light would not have displayed. Anyway I fat fingered and dropped the fuse into the genset and according to Murphey's Law it never fell through. We looked high and low but could not find it. After diligent searching my wife found a box of 10 amp fuses. I put one of them in and restarted the genset but it would run a few seconds then shut off and displayed a "Replace air filter" light. I also found a mouse or chipmunk nest in the bottom of the machine. I removed the cover and found the air filter was a bit crumpled and bent. I put it back on and cranked the genset and it ran but still showed the warning light to replace the air filter. I went to my log barn and lo and behold I did have a spare A24 filter for the Kohler engine. I replaced it and hit the reset button and everything worked fine. We went to bed a couple of hours later and I woke up about 4:00 a.m. to find power had been restored.
Evidently the dented air filter and possible mouse or chipmunk nest did not allow enough air flow for the genset to come up to full speed and generate enough power to run. I don't know why it never showed up before as it had to have been there a long time. I guess the weekly "crank and run and charge the battery" function never put the machine under a load. Anyway, I'm off to our local Advance Auto to get a couple of assorted blade fuse spares and replace the 10A with a 7.5A fuse. I will tape a spare there in the cover somewhere and I'll pick up another air filter.
When you get back into it in the daylight, let me know if you find any pieces of my lighter. ;D :D
Tom,
Your lighter story reminded me of the time I parked our company P/U outside the "Catfish Air" parking lot in Iraq in the heat of the summer. When I got back I smelled what I thought was soap or something and there pieces of colored plastic all over the truck. I later found one of the maids had left a can of air freshener on the back of the back seat and it got hot enough inside the cab the can had exploded.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on January 06, 2021, 10:15:52 AMI will tape a spare there in the cover somewhere and I'll pick up another air filter.
Chances are good that when you go to need that fuse, the tape will have dried up and the fuse fell in somewhere bad. How about one of those magnetic hide-a-key boxes (for cars)?
If it's a Kohler engine that means it's most likely a generac and they have plastic or aluminum boxes. Magnet won't work. Good idea to keep a spare in a box in the housing though!
Quote from: aigheadish on January 06, 2021, 08:42:18 AMA reminder to keep your walkways clear. My lovely wife came out about 5 minutes later and started straightening things out. We'll see if I learned a lesson. I also may have had some beverages that lead to this accident...
Yes housekeeping, eliminating trip hazards and PPE are basics of safety, unfortunately we all get reminders from time to time.
Glad you are on the mend and hope you you recover fully!
@offrink (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42920) & @ljohnsaw (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=20640) ,
I like the idea but modified it slightly and just used one of my 2 for 99 cent HF magnets to just hold the box the extra fuses came in in place on the tray on the left side under the cover after I replaced the 10A fuse we used as a temporary get-by last night. While lots of the genset (Yes its a Generac) may be aluminum that tray is steel and they seem securely fastened there. I love those little magnets. If you have a bunch of tiny screws or washers or such just toss one in the pigeonhole in your toolbox where you keep them and they keep everything secure.
I'm reading through this whole thread, so far I think I'm 25 pages deep and haven't seen this issue come up otherwise yet, so I'll share, though this was a while ago...
I'm relatively new to owning enough land that I needed a chainsaw. I was borrowing the FILs small Stihl for a bit, with a 16" bar, but it was hard to start for me a lot of times, and too small to deal with some of the big trees we have.
Along my driveway were some small Oak trees the previous homeowner planted (to the dismay of my neighbor, who I'm pretty sure proceeded to spray round-up on them). Well, I told him, since they weren't really growing well, that I was going to cut them down. He was happy to help so he brought out his Husqvarna 455 Rancher, fired it up nicely and we cut down the trees and cut the stumps flush with the ground so I could mow. It looked and ran like a pretty nice saw so I went out and spent about $500 bucks for one.
I got some good use out of the saw until I got to a point where it seemed like it lost all compression or something one day when I went to start it. Welp, boo. I took it to the repair shop down the way and got a call later saying that it was all seized up due to lack of proper oil mix. So I forgot, upon filling a gas can, to add 2-cycle oil...
So, 2 brand new $500 saws in less than a year. Now, I buy the pre-mix (at crazy added expense) because I don't trust myself to do it right...
Too late now, but I have a can marked chainsaw and I always put the oil in first. Than the gas. Been doing it for years this way, more than 40. Now I hope I won't be on here in a few months to say I burned up my less than a year old Husky 450. :( But the mix I use makes the gas blue. I look for the blue!!! I even put the oil mix bottle on the shelf of the OWB to warm it up so it flows better too. I let it drain for at least a ½ hour too. Fussy old man I am.
@aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516) by all means feel free to post something a second time on this thread or even a third time. I started this thread when I foolishly knocked my blade off my saw while returning the head. I had no idea it would evolve into this place where we all feel compelled to share our blunders. Here at the FD its a constant struggle to keep guys from putting the wrong fluids into the wrong spot. Gasoline into the fire truck fuel. Diesel into the gasoline pick up trucks. I've solved that by changing all the fuel nozzles to the larger size, but that won't stop folks from putting gas into the diesels. As you found out, it only becomes a problem when you realize it way too late. Usually guys will realize it as they are doing it. In older days we had saws with different fuel/oil ratios, but at least now its all 50:1. We have switched to tru fuel for all of our small engines so we have no more mixing to do. We still carry 2 cycle oil in case we need to make some in a pinch.
I have an old aquarium stand I got up in Albany. I put a piece of Masonite where the aquarium sat on top. it has a low shelf brace. it is thin metal but very sturdy. I use the top to work on my saws and change chains, clean up, and refuel. I have another board that fits it with a 8 inch hole cut in it and use it for when I work on vertical shaft small engines. My gas and bar oil sit underneath on the small shelf. Have used it for 30 years now. I have a spout with an on off valve on the bar oil, and the push button style 2.5 gallon gas can. I have a 5 gallon new push button can that I get av gas (high octane, no ethanol, a bit of lead)in to refill and mix up saw gas.
@aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516) , That is a very common problem. My policy here is all of my small (1-2.5 gallon capacity) fuel cans/plastic jugs are strictly for mixed gas and oil and my 5-6 gallon cans are for unmixed fuel. Everything on my place runs on 50:1 mixture so I add the oil before I add gas to the smaller can. On my place if its in a small can it is always mixed, no question. If in a large can, it is unmixed, no question.
I do the same thing with my Johnson Outboard motor for my boat. I keep 2- 6 gallon tanks and run one completely dry then switch tanks. Before I refill the fuel can/tank I add a pint of 2 cycle oil which gives me my 50:1 mix (Or close enough for guvment work). The 6 gallon tanks are very easy to use for this purpose because of this mixing feature.
I had a decent run of bringing the gas cans back from the station and immediately putting the oil in them, and yeah they are marked 50:1 but I guess I forgot on one trip... I like the idea of pouring the oil first and the blue stuff! Nothing a $500 mistake can't cure!
I keep my saw skrench on my can of mixed gas with a caribener and string. use same mix in all my 2cycle engines.
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Well then the Orange had to help the Green out!! :o
Phew, finally caught up after reading this whole thread! Thanks for the lessons gang!
@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) the idea of lifting that little green guy into the sky is brilliant! I embraced the PITA of dropping my mower deck to change a belt in my gravel driveway and it was pretty miserable. It looks like a great plan (with the mandatory bracing) to disconnect the deck and leave it on the ground while lifting the whole mower into the sky, with the backhoe, so I can mess around underneath it!
Also, a public service announcement...
My something dumb was to assume that Harbor Freight had a good deal going on 5 gallon fuel cans. I bought three of them yesterday, just prior to going to Menards, where I found the exact same cans for half the cost.
HF deals aren't always.
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Also, a public service announcement...
My something dumb was to assume that Harbor Freight had a good deal going on 5 gallon fuel cans. I bought three of them yesterday, just prior to going to Menards, where I found the exact same cans for half the cost.
If you had not already filled them you could always take them back. ???
Sadly, WV, I'm much too stubborn for that, even though the HF was literally next door. I did buy another kerosene can at Menard's.
My God I hate all the spouts on these things.
Spent a little over 1200.00 yesterday emptying the cat litter box. ::)
How did one do that you might you ask??
Put the spent cat litter in the bucket of my smaller tractor and hopped on to haul it to an old ground hog hole i've been filling. So while moving the smaller tractor out I backed into the very corner of the bucket on my other tractor.
I had parked it up by the shop door, it was waiting there to get the washer fluid reservoir filled. I thought I had enough clearance to get by..... all I needed to do was stop and move the other tractor back 2 ft.... but nope it will pass if I turn it as I go out. So I was watching the loader bucket so it cleared some obstacles I hit the clutch too late as I turned my head to look and saw it coming. It tapped the sidewall and it split the old tire. I pulled it back forward to stop the fountain of beet juice and let the tire go flat. I used some special words and was generally disgusted with myself. Then I thought about it after a while, and yes it was really dumb for hurrying and not moving the tractor .... I was also fortunate because those rear tires came with the tractor 17 years ago, they were severely checked and tired. They were for sure going to get replaced in a couple months when the weather got better for the tire man. I was just limping them along til then.
It could've been the tire sidewall splitting while moving bales or a big log and been far worse. It didn't hit it that hard don't think a new tire would have gone... So now just biting the bullet and replacing them sooner.
We had to go back to the Dr. Wednesday for a follow up on my cataract surgery. The calipers were grabbing on my wife's truck so she dropped it at our mechanic. I drove mine down ahead of her and parked right next to the big stone planter so they had room to access the gas tanks in the very tight quarters at the mechanic/gas station. When my wife arrived she got in to drive me the rest of the way to the doctor. As soon as she got in she turned hard right without ever looking in her mirror where she says she could not see the 4' tall planter anyway. She did a very good job of crumpling the right side of my truck. I already had body cancer popping through over the left fender and figured when it got bad enough I'd get a good replacement bed in N. Fla when we go down to see Mom. We did that with her truck a couple years ago as they do not use salt there. I guess my time line just got moved up.
I have body shops here saying they can cut out the affected rust area and put in a new panel for about $500 but they will not guarantee the work. I think a pristine used bed and tailgate before was about $900 and another $450 or so to paint it and swap them out.
Anyway, while parking in a very out of the way spot to allow access for others seemed like a good idea at the time, according to my wife it was still my fault she hit the planter but I digress.
Howard, it will ALWAYS be your fault. :D
we, I say we! did something similar, and it is why we keep our cars for a min. of 7 years. I had a stack of catalpa, on a pallet in front of our oversized garage. it is a double with about 8 feet to the side for storage inside. and that gives me a spot for some wood on the drive. I try to keep it to a min. i decided to put a 4 x 8 sheet of cdx ply on top, and drove screws down into the wood that was under my plastic strapping. i had backed my wife's car into the garage to unload some stuff. left it there, not thinking what would happen if she pulled out. my son parks his short jeep in there normally and can make the tight turn as there is a vinyl fence panel there. so she pulled out and turned right thinking she had to clear the fence, but did not see the edge of the ply. she actually hit a pole at wal-mart in the past as they sit atop a 2 foot round concrete 3 foot tall base. she missed the pole but caught the base. her car is old enough, and though it creased the door, it is by a normal crease and not easy to see. she does not want to get it fixed, translated, may want a new car. she informed me that lots of people hit those DanG poles. i.e. Wal-marts fault! :D :D :D wait, she does not read this does she?... :D :D :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on January 23, 2021, 01:03:38 PM
We had to go back to the Dr. Wednesday for a follow up on my cataract surgery. The calipers were grabbing on my wife's truck so she dropped it at our mechanic. I drove mine down ahead of her and parked right next to the big stone planter so they had room to access the gas tanks in the very tight quarters at the mechanic/gas station. When my wife arrived she got in to drive me the rest of the way to the doctor. As soon as she got in she turned hard right without ever looking in her mirror where she says she could not see the 4' tall planter anyway. She did a very good job of crumpling the right side of my truck. I already had body cancer popping through over the left fender and figured when it got bad enough I'd get a good replacement bed in N. Fla when we go down to see Mom. We did that with her truck a couple years ago as they do not use salt there. I guess my time line just got moved up.
I have body shops here saying they can cut out the affected rust area and put in a new panel for about $500 but they will not guarantee the work. I think a pristine used bed and tailgate before was about $900 and another $450 or so to paint it and swap them out.
Anyway, while parking in a very out of the way spot to allow access for others seemed like a good idea at the time, according to my wife it was still my fault she hit the planter but I digress.
a few years ago I did exactly the same thing a few years ago. Parked beside this big cement barrier at a gas station and went in to talk to the owner. Came out oblivious to the barrier as I cranked it to the right and took off. Rolled the box under real good infron of the rear wheel.
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Anyway, while parking in a very out of the way spot to allow access for others seemed like a good idea at the time, according to my wife it was still my fault she hit the planter but I digress.
Marriage is a relationship where one person is always right and the other person is the husband.
My wife was not good at judging distance, she tried to move the concrete pillars in the underground parkade. TWICE! The Ranger looked like a refugee from a demo derby, repairs would have been worth more than the truck.
My ex-wife was pretty good at driving too... She managed to hit one of the poles next to the gas pumps and crunch down the side of the minivan and she crashed almost through the back of the garage once...
My wife is a pretty good driver. She has never wrecked my truck. I NEVER, ever let her drive my truck. The last time she drove my truck was in 2009. That was 2 trucks ago.
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) enjoy the new tires.
Yep:
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Daughters sail_smiley
She starts drivers ed February 1'st. Has refused to drive the caddi say_what
My concrete pole was one of those yellow painted concrete poles at the McDonalds Drive Thru :).
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) just how many cats you got anyway? I mean, cleaning out a heifer barn with a loader - I get that. Cleaning out the cat box with a loader ---- nope, never heard of that before. :D
Quote from: Southside on January 23, 2021, 10:35:54 PM
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) just how many cats you got anyway? I mean, cleaning out a heifer barn with a loader - I get that. Cleaning out the cat box with a loader ---- nope, never heard of that before. :D
Yeah, you know I missed that little detail. I can see using a skidsteer, but geez a loader?! ;D :D ;D :D :)
Well, here's a couple. We had a 1992 Chevy Z71 that the paint went south on. The salesman (co-workers husband) saw the starting peels and got us a new paint job for free. About 2 days after getting it back, my wife was pulling in the front gates at the ranch like she'd done hundreds of times. Turned a little too sharp and caught the right rear wheel well trim on the metal gate. Heard a funny noise and stopped and looked around. Didn't see anything wrong so continued forward to rip the trim all the way off. ::)
Then it was my turn. Drove 2 hours to pick up a new 5-wheel 3 horse aluminum trailer $$$. Pulled into an abandoned gas station to figure out how to get home (before GPS's) Didn't realize how sharp a 5th wheel turns. Caught the fender on a concrete filled steel post in front of the gas island. Luckily, I was able to pound out the dent and sand the scratches out. Brushed aluminum is easy to fix!
My tale of sheetmetal woes:
Back in the days of payphones I was using a drive-up version. It was raining and I moved my truck as close as possible so I could call and close the window most of the way. When I was done I hung up the phone and rolled up the window. The steering on my first truck, an '86 GMC Sierra was still cranked when I moved and the post in front of the phone put a distinctive crease into the door, B pillar and box side. The worst part was the cap of the post and therefore the crease, lined up perfectly with the keyhole in the door knocking the whole assembly into the door and rendering the hole out of shape for putting it back together. I was still getting my career started with student loans etc. so I was going to get every mile I could out of that truck without putting a lot back in for niceties like a working lock. I found a rubber "foot" like would go on a wooden kitchen chair that fit perfectly to plug the hole where the lock had been (to keep out all the dirt, ice, salt and such), touched up the scratch and painted it all to match (I had painted the truck when I bought it 4 years before). The only wrinkle besides the one on the side of the truck was that access was now exclusively through the passenger side door whenever the truck was locked. With an empty truck I could just slide across the bench seat. For the rest of the time when I had anything blocking the way I had a canoe paddle permanently stationed on the passenger side, I would open the door reach across with the paddle and use the blade to pop the opposite lock open in one motion. I got pretty good at that for the next couple years before the old GMC was no longer my daily driver.
Think I am pretty fortunate in wife, mine got too close to one of those concrete posts when we had a 74 Nova we bought new after graduating from college. It was a budget model with rally wheels and no AC. Cost 2750 new. Anyway, she got too close and knew she hit it, but couldn't figure out how to get away from it without backing up, so just drove on till it was clear. Put a nice groove all the way to the back. But since then, she has never hurt a car other than having a deer running into the side of a Corsica she had later. Can't complain, she has been a much less expensive wife than most. And she is doing my chores and nursing me through my convelescence right now.
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) .....1 Cat! Roughly 2 /2.5 gallons of spent litter. My son and significant others cat spent a couple weeks with us over the holidays while they traveled back to Connecticut to see her family. So we had extra litter boxes set up. Wife said hey if you have time can you empty out the cat boxes. This translates into, "its your day off and I'm working so".....
We have a Chinese copy of a yahmaha Rhino but the battery just went bad, and I hadn't been to town to get a different one yet. Normally the bucket with the litter dumped in it would go in it or the back of the truck . This is to haul far enough away from the place the dog doesn't find it and role in it or worse....The plan was to grab a loader bucket or two of asphalt grindings while I was at it since it was pretty nice out and I could patch a couple holes and soft spots in the lane. It's a mile round trip just as well kill two birds with one stone right?? ...Nope just killed one tire, the other tractor had the grapple bucket on it and it won't haul much asphalt. I will enjoy the new tires.
Wait a second. Now you are telling me that you repair your driveway with used cat litter? :D Dang, you opening a car wash station for those unfortunate folks who happen to visit you? :D
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) Driveway??... no... I'm filling an old ground hog hole or fox den in a hay patch with the cat litter in the 5 gallon bucket. Grab asphalt grindings for the driveway in the loader bucket on the return trip. We aren't crazy cat people as of yet. I deal with enough of those folks at work....
Southside knows that you would not put cat litter in the driveway, he is just crazy.
Everybody knows that potholes in the driveway are best patched with chickens.
Lord knows plenty of mine have made attempts at that theory.
Speaking of crazy cat people. When we lived in Oregon I looked at a ranch in Merrill. So the realtor, who was the Queen of Spin, is taking me down the ranch lane and we drive right past the entrance to the landfill - that little detail wasn't on the listing - and she says something to the effect of "and the dump is nice and close to drop off your trash".... uh hua..... So we go a bit further and as we are passing the neighbors place the entire side hill starts to move - looked like a land slide and it was heading right toward us. Not one to miss an opportunity the Queen of Spin calmly says "and the neighbor has a few cats, so the mice are under control". There had to be hundreds of them, and they have this SUV in their sights. They had us in a choke point, bottom of the valley, and it gets narrow quick. It's an ambush!! I am thinking whatever happens, don't get out of the vehicle, if I go down they won't even find bones. I mean Kingsley Field Air Base is about 20 miles north, but they only have F-15's so I can't even call in a Warthog for close air support, only thing they will be able to do is get some video from 5,000'. ;D
Needless to say out of fear for my flock - I didn't make an offer on the place.
Quote from: WDH on January 24, 2021, 05:52:50 PM
Southside knows that you would not put cat litter in the driveway, he is just crazy.
He milks cows and has a sawmill..... ;)
Years ago when my wife and I were first married there were rules made regarding livestock on our place. First one is no chickens, second was no pigs. So there is no practical way to use chicken pavers at our place. :)
Cat litter works great on an icy sidewalk, of course I prefer it fresh.
don't use the clumping litter, don't ask how i know >:(
FWIW I've filled in an acre gully with cat litter (let's just say a small fortune) and chicken house residue over the years but never repaired a driveway with either. My wife has a PhD and is both the hardest working and smartest woman I know but she is crazy about her cats and her chickens. I don't talk about her hospital and doctor bills from cat bites and scratches. Right now she is on antibiotics from a cat inflicted laceration that the urgent care super glued on Thursday. A man has to know his limitations.....
This hardly rates even an honorable mention since no machines were wrecked and no stitches were required but I went to resaw some wide ash boards a couple days ago. I had removed the fuel tank and filled it and several stock gas cans when I went over to the next county where gas is about 40 cents a gallon cheaper. I put the tank in place and noticed the bungee straps seemed tight when I cinched them down and the lube hose kept getting in the way and the end of the fuel line would not reach. I found everything worked much better once I removed it and put it back on over on the other side of the mill where it came from. I had the lube tank off stored in my well house to keep it from freezing and had put the fuel tank up where the lube tank goes.
That's one of those 'laugh at yourself' moments. I have a lot of them.
Howard, are you having senior moments? ;D
Cerebral flatulence.
Hopefully the snow melts soon :D
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But it always have before Don, it always has.
Don, I think Old greenhorn trumps you :)
He beats me. I only have about 12" but still coming down.
I just pulled the battery out of my sled to charge tonight. Hopefully I can resurrect it and maybe get a ride in this weekend. Lets hope I don't contribute to this thread in the process.
OGH,
I C U finally got to use your snow shoes!
and shovel 2
JJ
I wish I had some snow to try to get stuck in.
Crusarius, it's not a contest. :D
JJ, never had time, but if I get bored tomorrow, maybe I'll give them a shot and check out the old mill site. They set close to the door, just in case. ;D
FFOTS, around here it's pretty easy. C'mon up. :D
you have some mighty big shoes boots then :D
Quote from: Don P on February 02, 2021, 04:40:46 PM
Hopefully the snow melts soon :D
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Now how did that get there? say_what
I had another 6" on the truck this morning. driveway had about 12" Since I didn't plow last night. That was a mistake. I got out, but I dunno if I will get back in.
Ya'll can keep it, don't miss it, don't want any more of it. Moved away from it over 30 years ago, one of the best things I ever did. Don't get me wrong summers are hot hot here, bugs are rough at times.
I guess just pick your evil. I will say it is beautiful when you can be inside by the fire and look outside at it.
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Truck sledding :D. I was 25 when we chose the house site, which has good sun. The driveway is a little steep, close to 30% grade, we usually hike up in snow. It was getting a little mushy when I got home the other day after doing some reshoring and pumping at work, we'll wait for the roof weight to clear there. I decided to try to go for it and show some dirt to help it melt. I didn't make it and then gravity on ice took hold of the situation. I hate ABS, especially backwards. With old style brakes I can stab and slew the rear, kick it back into the road and release and bring the front around. There ain't no surfing with ABS. It's in a place where if I move it'll go into the woods so that truck is there till it melts unless I want to rig it. There's a couple of cars down below and it's better weather to sit inside and read about the watermills of Floyd County :) so I'm in no real hurry to recover it.
Okay - its just money this time. Our dishwasher quit pumping water and I checked all the valves and such and nothing had gotten closed on them. I called our appliance repair company and they gave me an appointment about 8-9 days out. Today he finally came and punched a few buttons to run a diagnostic on it. That ran and gave him a code which prompted him to open the door and remove the spoon that had slid under the float shutting off the water. Problem solved. $106 service charge applies. I obviously did not look close enough when I checked - but the expert did not see it at first either. If your dishwasher does out be sure to double check everything carefully for any lost silverware or roller off the trays or such. Might save you some time and money. ::)
Not to mention washing all the dishes by hand for 8-9 days while you wait for the guy.
While slabbing last night I was cutting a 36in oak and got the mill stuck about halfway through the cut. So turned off the mill and got it back about 2inches to trim off about half an inch with a chainsaw. I ended up hitting my chainsaw blade on the sawmill blade :( >:(
Which chain was the tougher ? ;)
My Car uses "Addblue" injected into the CAT to cut emissions.
On Tuesday I got a 10l plastic container from a friend.
Placed it in my Pickup behind the front passenger seat.
Yesterday I found the footwell flooded with Addblue.
9L soaked into the carpets.
It will take me hours to remove all the seats and trim before I can remove them for cleaning and drying.
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) that reminds me of a time my relatively brand new dryer started making a terrible noise. It seemed to work ok but made a God-awful screeching and grinding. We called the repair shop, the guy came out, took apart the drum to find a nickel floating around in there, seemingly stuck in between some stuff. I've never taken apart a dryer but I likely will try if it happens again.
Has any put gasoline in their diesel tractor? I did and cranked it up,went over and cranked sawmill up to warm up. I thought it sounded different but it was really cold. Went on and cranked backhoe up and when the mill warmed up,finished sawing the log I was cutting. Went to get on tractor and it wasn't idling as usual. This was about 30 minutes after cranking.
I've drained the tank. Should I purge the fuel lines or just put fuel in and crank up.🤯🤯🤯🤯
Remote started my diesel truck that was plugged in with a 100 ft extension cord and had Diesel Man (German Shepherd) in the back and went four miles over to a friends and backed in his drive, picked something up in the back of the truck and back home and let Diesel out and noticed Something 😂. Went to the front and it was still plugged in and pulled the cord and couldn't believe all 100 ft was there. The end got chewed up by the gravel road 😂😂
@Walnut Beast (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=49695) No way....If I did something like that I would've driven over the cord yanked it out at 40 mph. Thus tearing the cord off as well wrecking the block heater cord at the same time. Then some body would've come along behind me witnessing the carnage and picked up a free now 90ft cord. :)
I couldn't believe it 🙄
You are not the first and you won't be the last. I replaced the cord on a co workers Camry, now that was a fun job! @dean herring (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28545) you want to flush as much as you can, diesels don't get on well with gas. My next door neighbor couldn't get his Kubota to run properly, hadthe serviceman come out but still no joy. Neither of them noticed lawn mower gas in the tank, he was some embarrassed when he told me what he had done. :D
Ive driven off to gas up the boat with the Minkota still plugged in, wondering why my wife is yelling at me. :o
We had a fire truck years ago that had an air leak we could not find and it took too long for the brakes to air up when started cold, so we kept it plugged into a small air compressors at the fire house while we continued to look for the leak. The connection was right next to the landline under the driver's door to keep the batteries and tools charged.
Well one night/early morning we get a structure fire call and the driver passed close enough to the fire on his way for the truck that he could see it was a worker and he got a little excited, figured he was finally gonna be 'first due'. He opened the bay as he pulled in, yanked the landline without even looking and climbed in and fire it up, was out the door in to time. Got down to the bottom of the hill and when he took the turn, saw that compressor fly across the road in his rearview. Went nearly a mile before something broke, he just kept going till the brakes locked. (He wasn't first due.)
You would think that would set him up for years of razzing, but it only lasted about 6 months until somebody did not wait until the garage door was all the way up before pulling out in a similar heated moment. I have picked up more than a few of those landlines still connected, or not far from the trucks they were connected to and repairing them and the overhead outlets they hung from. Bought them by the box.
:D :D :D :D :D
They ruined all that now because the rigs come with a self ejecting plug, they blow it out of the socket as soon as the engine starts.......most of the time. ;D
We had that happen at work, driving off still plugged in. Now I put the extension cord over the mirror on the door.
Oh man. We've pulled more cords out the door, even with the auto eject. Those things tend not to work about 1% of the time. Doesn't sound like a lot, but we pull out of the station a lot more than 100 times per year. I'm constantly having to replace ends on the cords and each truck ends up having to have the receptacle on the truck replaced about once a year. We don't keep our trucks plugged into air, but a dept. I volunteered for does. I've driven off with one of the their trucks without unplugging the air. Those are definitely not auto eject.
Our bay doors are set on a timer to close 5 minutes after the alerter in the station goes off for the call.
This way the bay doors aren't left open for who knows how long. They don't always think about pushing the remote when they are going to a "worker". Well, this week the captain that works for me at an outer station called me and said that they had ran into the door as they were pulling into the station. They had been sent on a call and then disregarded, so they came back to the station within the 5 minutes. They opened the back door and started to drive in just as the door started to come back down. Very little damage to the truck, but destroyed the bottom panel of the door. I would say we hit an average of 2 bay doors each year. Stuff happens and its just a cost of doing the business we do.
When I was still wet behind the ears I got sent to town with the flat deck on a very cold morning. The brakes worked so I unplugged the buzzer and ignored the flag. ::) I got to the first stop sign, stepped on the brake which went to the floor and rolled across the intersection. :o The drain valve was partially open, a piece of ice had obviously blown out and I was freewheelin'. Today the truck would have spring brakes.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 20, 2021, 09:11:51 AM
Oh man. We've pulled more cords out the door, even with the auto eject. Those things tend not to work about 1% of the time. Doesn't sound like a lot, but we pull out of the station a lot more than 100 times per year. I'm constantly having to replace ends on the cords and each truck ends up having to have the receptacle on the truck replaced about once a year. We don't keep our trucks plugged into air, but a dept. I volunteered for does. I've driven off with one of the their trucks without unplugging the air. Those are definitely not auto eject.
Our bay doors are set on a timer to close 5 minutes after the alerter in the station goes off for the call.
This way the bay doors aren't left open for who knows how long. They don't always think about pushing the remote when they are going to a "worker". Well, this week the captain that works for me at an outer station called me and said that they had ran into the door as they were pulling into the station. They had been sent on a call and then disregarded, so they came back to the station within the 5 minutes. They opened the back door and started to drive in just as the door started to come back down. Very little damage to the truck, but destroyed the bottom panel of the door. I would say we hit an average of 2 bay doors each year. Stuff happens and its just a cost of doing the business we do.
Yeah 1% failure rate is not acceptable in the fire service. We had a few fail too, so I always pulled mine manually. I trust nothing.
Doors: yeah, we had about a similar level of door issues, but at one point we got a rash of them. Almost every driver said "the door was all the way up before I started rolling out' and some were very adamant about it. Turned out that our radios would overload the remote receiver on the door if the antenna passed by too close while in transmit and it would trip the door to close. Well, run in the house, hit the door button. pull the cords, climb in and start it up. The brakes come up and the alarm goes off and the door is fully open. You begin to pull out, grab the mic and call in responding, the door comes down and wipes the rear bubble gum machines off the deck, or worse. SO we changed the protocol, and the reminder sign on the header from "MAKE SURE THE DOOR IS OPEN ALL THE WAY" to read "DO NOT CALL IN RESPONDING UNTIL YOU ARE COMPLETELY CLEAR OF THE APRON" . ;D
On those air chucks, NO they are NOT autoeject in anyway and it is amazing how much weight they will pull! ;D
For a while I tried to make a better mouse trap with putting strain reliefs on the cords and bolting them to the wall. All I did was increase the damage from plug replacements to fixing holes in the walls and replacing sockets on trucks. In my station 3 we used those auto recoil drop drops that retract, so you would pull the plug on the truck and it would snap up to the ceiling. Great idea right? NO. One time I jumped in the seat as I pulled and snapped the cord, I didn't see it catch in the ladder rack. Ripped the recoil unit off the ceiling and shot it across the road as I made the turn going out to a worker. Took me 20 minutes to find it when I got back and an hour to repair the spring mechanism and get it working again.
Diesel in the gas tank was something we always worried about with so many different drivers filling trucks with varying lengths of service, but to my knowledge we never had that happen (just about everything else do though).
All of our shorelines have a cord coming down from the ceiling, then a short coiled cord plugged into that. The short cord is what is plugged into the truck. If the auto ejector doesn't work, then the short cord comes apart from the cord from the ceiling. This way usually no major damage is done. The truck just has a short cord hanging from it while it goes to the call.
We have always had the rule that you do not talk on the radio while going through the open door. Go responding before you pull out or wait til you are out the door. I have never seen the radio trigger the door, but we always knew it was a possibility.
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yesterday I decided the wheel on this logstop was way too round! 🤔🤫 Luckily I wasn't 1/2 an inch lower. Blade is salvageable. Just knocked the set out some.
Quote from: Patrick NC on February 24, 2021, 07:57:30 AMyesterday I decided the wheel on this logstop was way too round! 🤔🤫 Luckily I wasn't 1/2 an inch lower. Blade is salvageable. Just knocked the set out some.
OY, well it looks like the wheel won that fight and is still round. It could have been worse.
OK, looks like it is my turn again. This one may put me in the running for the Hall Of Fame, no injuries, but on the stupidity level it rates right at the top of the heap. In fact I can't believe I am sharing this.
Context: I am working in the shop with my 5 YO Grandson. As he is wont to do he is hitting me with a pretty steady stream of questions, non-stop questions, except when I am doing or cutting something, then he pays attention.
I am trying to make some simple signs by routing out the letters freehand then filling them with paint, then after drying I sand the face flush removing the excess paint and then apply urethane to seal it.
SO the routing went fine and he really enjoyed that and giving me 'directions' ("cut that one next" etc) For the paint part I used some old enamel white spray paint but I only got about 1/3rd of the way through and the can ran out of pressure (I thought). Nothing was coming out and the little dribs indicated that the can was dead. Now with this break in the action, the questions resumed and I tried to answer them all as I was also trying to figure out how to salvage this and get the paint in so it could dry overnight. Being as the can was 'dead' and distracted by the inquisition, I grabbed an awl, and acid brush, a mallet, and a throw away drink cup to put the paint in. I did think to lay a shop towel over the can then pierce a hole through them both. I popped the hole in easy and heard very light hissing which I kind of expected. I figured there was a pound or 3 of pressure left in the can. Now if I had just wiggled the awl loose with the hole on top of the can, I might have been fine because only the gas would come out. But no, I thought I could pull the awl as I rotated the can to put the paint in the cup.
For a split second, the world turned white, I tried to turn the hole toward the cup but the pressure blew the cup 6 feet away and needless to say, it was too late I had paint all over everything. My grandson thought it was pretty cool but I might get in trouble with grandma for the mess I made. :D
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It dried pretty quick and there was no chance to get it off the roller stand, floor or waste basket, so I get to 'enjoy it for years to some. Adding insult to injury, my right hand got plastered and with the dermatitis I dare not use anything stronger than soap the wash it off, so I guess I can live with it for a couple of days.
In hindsight I would be the first one to ask me 'what the heck was I thinking?'
Stupid.
Just a heads up.....don't go throwing gasoline on a fire :).
Quote from: WDH on March 05, 2021, 07:59:59 PM
Just a heads up.....don't go throwing gasoline on a fire :).
Good point. :D
That there is what I'd call a mess. Did you get the sign done?
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 05, 2021, 09:07:53 PM
That there is what I'd call a mess. Did you get the sign done?
heh, yeah, um, well... I had so much paint that I completely filled all the lettering in the sign. It will probably take 3 days to dry and cure. :D ;D It is what it is... It's just a sign to direct folks to use the side door when they come her for the first time and can't figure out how to get in. I will just set it in a corner until it is good and cured.
But now that you mention it, I am headed out to the shop to do the stove now, maybe I should revisit the scene of the crime and check. I still feel like an iodiot, but I really can't help laughing every time I think how very stupid that was and that I was even completely and totally sober when I did it. If I had been drinking, I would have had an excuse. ;D
I knew someone who just got a couple cans of the foam in a can that expands and fills cracks. The high quality plastic bag failed as he was walking down the stairs into his finished basement. The pictures he posted made us all cringe. Never trust those junk plastic bags...
That is why I bought an HVLP gun. sick of the stupid rattle cans getting partially done and then plugging up. The quality of them now is less than garbage.
Good thing you didn't 'paint' the young fella, there would have been no dealing with grandma. :D
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Good thing you didn't 'paint' the young fella, there would have been no dealing with grandma. :D
Now THAT I did think about before I drove that awl home and I put him behind me just in case.
no wonder the grandkids like to hang with grandpa in the shop. very exciting. :o :o :o :) :) :)
Reminds me of the Mr. Bean skit of painting with fireworks.
Tom,
At least your grandson had a good time. Did you get him to promise not to tell Mommy and Grandma and see how long it took him to rat you out? :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 06, 2021, 09:19:32 AM
Tom,
At least your grandson had a good time. Did you get him to promise not to tell Mommy and Grandma and see how long it took him to rat you out? :D
Nah, I didn't see the point in putting pressure on him. I knew it wouldn't take long before he mentioned it, the question was would anybody pick up on it and ask the details. Well it only took an hour.
Aah, it's only a shop. I have many paint stains on the floor and walls from when my son was 'learning', I guess it was just my turn. But I reserve the right to feel stupid for a long time. ;D
I should point out that I had considered asking him to keep it our secret (just for a fun thing thing between he and I which I knew would not last), but then I realized it would be a bad lesson in covering up your mistakes, so I took the high road and just told him "Nope Grandpa just did something really dumb, so now I have to clean it up and fix the mess I made, it was my fault because I didn't think it through." I thought that was the better lesson for him to take away.
Years ago we were taking our granddaughter home and we had 6-8 inches of snow on our mountain road. I met a big dump truck and pulled too far over in spite of my wife's stern warning and got stuck in the ditch. There was a loader along a few minutes later so I hooked a tow cable to the truck and he pulled us right out - we weren't there 5 minutes. I told Molly to promise not to tell anyone Grandpa had been stuck. We took her home and got her older sisters off the bus. An hour or so later her mom got home and she ran outside and met her at the car and told her "Mommy, Mommy, Grandpa got stuck in the snow. Grandma told him not to but he did anyway." She got a kick out of ratting me out especially since she knew she was not supposed to. Now if you ask her to keep a secret she just says "Nope. I tell everything." Her sisters say the same thing about her.
I use a cordless Ryobi little circular saw to cut stickers to length as I'm stacking lumber. It was over a week ago that I stacked wood under my deck. Today I went down there to get some stickers to use while stacking wood somewhere else. I found my saw sitting out on a table that is not under cover. I think it's rained 3 inches since last week. Dang it. I picked it up and took the battery out. I will let it dry a good while before I try using it. It occurred to me that the kiln shed is about 80 deg and really dry right now, so I put it in there with a fan blowing on it.
Brain cramp :D
I use that ceramic engine spray paint for my big snowblower on my tractor. Had a fresh can of black, couldn't get the top off, smacked it on the edge of a table......top came off along with the nozzle. In my face, all over the garage. Ran to the door with my hand covering the uncontrollable spray and realized I couldn't open the door. Stood there until it ran out. Nasty stuff and still all over the garage floor. I'm real careful with those tops now!
I thought I had a decent setup on my portable table saw. I needed a zero clearance plate to I could put grooves into 3/8" stock. Well, apparently my zero clearance plate did not stay put even with a feather board on top of it holding it down.
Just as I was turning back to run another piece through.....
out came my zero clearance plate at about mach 3......
wammo, straight into my gut. That kinda hurt, alot.
Now my zero clearance plate has a stop block screwed to it so it at least cannot come back towards me. Worst thing is my dad has my good tablesaw.
Twice now I've learned the lesson of table saw kickbacks, not the plate but enough to give me some respect for thrown wood. Once a piece came off and wedged itself in the weather-stripping of the wife's car's back windshield, luckily no real damage but it was tough to get it out. Next was a long piece, where I was cutting off the rounded edge of a 2x4, and it shot probably 40 feet across my shop and garage and clanged off some stuff, luckily that time I've got a motorcycle trailer standing up, in the way of a window I imagine the piece would have gone through.
Those things are no joke. Hope you are ok @Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059)
Quote from: aigheadish on March 17, 2021, 03:21:35 PM
Twice now I've learned the lesson of table saw kickbacks, not the plate but enough to give me some respect for thrown wood. Once a piece came off and wedged itself in the weather-stripping of the wife's car's back windshield, luckily no real damage but it was tough to get it out. Next was a long piece, where I was cutting off the rounded edge of a 2x4, and it shot probably 40 feet across my shop and garage and clanged off some stuff, luckily that time I've got a motorcycle trailer standing up, in the way of a window I imagine the piece would have gone through.
Those things are no joke. Hope you are ok @Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059)
I hate using table saws and angle grinders with cutting discs on. Haven't had any bad accidents to date yet though
I have never heard of a throat plate ripping out. That had to get your attention. Geez, glad you didn't loose anything. I will say that I never stand in that line of fire because table saws have too many things that can go wrong and there is a lot of power in there.
wasn't a true plate it was actually a piece of walnut about 2" wide 18" long and 3/8" thick. was a reject piece for my table and did a great job of closing the giant gap up around the blade. it actually sat on the table. not in it like it should have. I was to lazy to make a real one.
Still tender where I got hit, the color is starting to show through. I will live, and I will remember! :)
cutoff wheels on grinders are definitely scary. never skimp on cheap wheels. and for the love of god ppl, put your guards back on your angle grinders!!! they are there for a reason!!!!
ok, rant over :)
I have a bunch of phenolic resin pieces that would make great throat plates.
I have been bit numerous times by not having the guard on angle grinder.
Uhh yeah, with a thin cutoff wheel you can do about $600 of damage real quick and be thankful the finger is still there.
Do higher quality angle grinders inspire more confidence than say a Harbor Freight one? It is definitely one of those scary but very useful tools. My HF one has a difficult-to-turn-on switch that is also difficult to hold down/on. It makes it feel like any minute I can fudge it up and either lose my grip or toss it in a weird way. I've been hesitant to buy a higher quality one for fear that it'll be basically the same spinny nightmare. Do they make pistol grip angle grinders with a trigger? Anyone happy and confident with theirs?
I have a Dewalt at the office we use for hoof work, it will peel the hide off of your thumb just the same as my cheapie Clark at home...note to self, always stop and put the leather gloves on they will help.... The notch in my thumb did fill back in after a while.
I have a makita that will lock in place. It will release with gloves on very easy, but hard to lock in place with gloves.
A welders helper had a wheel explode and a piece of the wheel went in his leg just missed his artery :o .Found pieces embedded in the welders truck and some a couple hundred feet away, full scale investigation . He was using high dollar grinder, wheel not rated for the RPMs .Took him a while to heal up piece of wheel, grit, carharts etc in his leg took the E.R awhile to get it out.Good thing one of the swampers was an ex-corpsman.
Wow, how could a wheel not be rated for high speed.
I was working below a helper and felt something bounce off my back, he had gotten a cutoff wheel in a bind and it shattered.
I much prefer a deadman switch on a grinder. My wife was up in a workbasket with a chainsaw head on a grinder touching up logs when it got away from her and chased her all over the basket, she hopped up on the railing till I could get to the plug. We went and bought one with a deadman switch that evening. Won't keep it from biting you but will keep it from chasing you down.
Had a large cutoff wheel on a 7" angle grinder split in two, I was around 10 ft away bent over changing a motorcycle tire, ½ of wheel hit me on the head and knocked me off my feet. Turns out you bleed quite a bit with a 2 inch cut on your head and you don't have to wait at ER when you walk in with blood running down your face but you get the oddest looks from other people.
the cheap ones "rattle" more but I cannot wear them out. I have a batt. operated DeWalt also. I have a 9" HF one, that I would not have paid the money for a name brand, as I do not use it that often. I like the flapper wheels to clean things up.
Quote from: Don P on March 18, 2021, 08:52:52 AM
Wow, how could a wheel not be rated for high speed.
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Don, you would be surprised.. Before I retired a part of my job (do it is your spare time..) was as the Machine Guarding Single Point of Accountability (SPA) (that is corporate speak for 'the guy we blame'). One of our plants had a wheel explosion and found it was an incorrect RPM rating so I have to go around our shop to every buffer, bench grinder, surface grinder, cylindrical grinder, thread grinder, ID grinder, and more to put labels on each one with it's spindle speed, then re-write all the wheel change procedures to include bold type about confirming the wheel speed rating before changing the wheel. (There were somewhere around 90 machines involved.)
As a result, we started to learn a lot of wheels we used routinely did not match or exceed the various machine speeds. We caught and fixed these as we discovered them. I got hammered in an audit later on because they had added two buffer/grinders without telling me and they had no labels. ;D I should have been shot on the spot, according to the auditor. SHAME! (Dang pencil pushers.)
In all my years studying safety issues with wheels and such, the grinding wheels and discs are bad but wire wheels are the worst. Strands come out and find the dangdist places to lodge, like eyeballs, legs, arms, faces, etc. I have had a very healthy respect for all of these bonded wheels since I was about 19 and had a 2" wide x 20" diameter cylindrical grinding wheel explode on me. Part went through the wall behind me, part went through the built up steel roof, and the rest we never found. Once was enough for me. We did have a guy in that shop that would blow up at least one wheel a week, even diamond wheels (which you have to work hard to do), but he drank a lot. :D
The wheel that exploded was a counter fit Chinese knock of a name brand and did not meet specs >:(. Came in with legit order the warehouse man placed . Legit wheels have max rpm and other info on them .
Somebody in the suppliers purchasing department should be hung out to dry! I had some battles over issues like that in the aircraft industry.
I worked in aerospace hydraulics early in my career and did a stint in Quality control while I was recovering from an injury. I learned early on about the strict traceability requirements through the entire life of an item, from raw material to scrap. They are dead serious about that and I lived through an investigation where the FAA and DOD came in with no advance notice, erected a 1,000 sq.ft secure enclosure in the middle of our shop, took every valve we had in stock and locked them up under a guard, then collected every piece of paperwork generated during the manufacture of those parts while they slowly disassembled them and traced the source of every single component and looked at every machinist that performed each machining op on those parts. This was all because of a series of failures resulting in losses of a particular model military fighter jet. They were trying to locate the root cause and one of our valves was a suspect. It was pretty tense in the shop for about a month. Then one day, it ended like a light switch was shut off. Another team at some other plant across the country had found the root cause in another component and the inspectors never came back, but they left us with a mess to clean up and document.
Not every industry has such a strict process and traceability. I learned a lot during that event that made me into a pretty good troubleshooter over the following decades. I found a lot of causes that everyone before me had missed because I drilled into details they had not. I also learned to have a very healthy respect for liability as a manufacturer, one that many never seem to learn.
I was on a call with my uncle and cousin regarding some health issues. my uncle has developed an arthritis and now his blood pressure is up. my cousin means well, she works in a nursing home and is an emt and team leader. the doc added a new bp med, in addition to the old one, and later with lab work, showed a normal uric acid (they were treating presumed gout) they added a third. of course my cousin "bless her heart" thought it was the end of the world even though he had not started any of the new meds. I of course deal with this all DanG day at work and was multi tasking. oh by the way, I put a new blade on the table saw, and it did not cut well and made a lot of smoke.
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I guess I subconsciously thought surely a carbide blade could cut walnut backwards with no problem. :o :o :o :D
this is what I was working on.
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was my wife's friends birthday yesterday.
Brain cramp. There is a lot of that going around. We all get 'em. The project looks like it came out OK anyway. ;D :D
At least you figured it out pretty quickly.
still got my fingers, took another 16th off the edge. ;)
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 18, 2021, 01:01:07 PM
At least you figured it out pretty quickly.
:D :D :D :D
I am thinking that he got some pretty strong clues in short order. ;D ;D
Let he amongst us who is without sin....
do not work distracted. I was not "working or sawing" but changing a blade and talking on the phone. may have even rolled my eyes a couple times. but it got me when I was cutting. smoke and a board the wanted to climb up the blade. :o 8) :)
you can see the lingering smoke in the pics... or is that the spirit of the blade? ;D
Quote from: aigheadish on March 18, 2021, 08:08:46 AM
Do higher quality angle grinders inspire more confidence than say a Harbor Freight one? It is definitely one of those scary but very useful tools. My HF one has a difficult-to-turn-on switch that is also difficult to hold down/on. It makes it feel like any minute I can fudge it up and either lose my grip or toss it in a weird way. I've been hesitant to buy a higher quality one for fear that it'll be basically the same spinny nightmare. Do they make pistol grip angle grinders with a trigger? Anyone happy and confident with theirs?
all my grinders have a locking slide switch. I hate the paddle switch they are never easy to hold in odd locations.
The nicer / better grinders I have are 11,000 rpm. This makes you pay real close attention to what you buy to put on it. I learned real quick cheap cone wire brushes leave your belly full of long metal spines. Those are a huge no go. Cheap cutoff wheels I have taken to many ppl to the hospital because of. Not from my shop but from my firefighter days.
I always say this. if the tool is comfortable your going to be much better at using it. If you can never get into a comfortable position using it, you will never be great with it.
doc thats funny. the worst thing is till I read what you wrote I thought it was a reverse rotation table saw.
I think I need to get a new job and some sleep!
Nice job Doc. I bet she loved it 👍
she will get it this weekend, thanks! we plan to go to a running race in the town she teaches in. we will surprise her with our presence and presents. I hope she does not read this. :o lol her husband retired early from Halliburton, and is the guy I went fishing with the last 4 times I went fishing. the girls run, and the guys fish.
Thanks @Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) I just saw the paddle switch variety, looking through a catalog, yesterday, and thought that looked like a decent option, maybe not... I also saw the higher quality (name branded, at least) weren't as pricey as I thought, so maybe it's time to go shopping.
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I see your friend received a quality education. ;)
I have dewalt grinders. I love them. All of the ones I have ever tried with the paddle switch I hated. Mine all have the slide and lock switch. It takes more work to lock them on than it does to shut them off. This sometimes is a pain but after I had someone elses cheap knockoff grinder get away from me I prefer it.
With the lock switch make sure you always have a good grip on it. I had one get away from me when I was grinding the plasma cut corners of some 16 gauge stainless. The grinder jumped out of my hand took off up my arm across my chest and then down the other arm. I ended up catching it by the cord still running. Only thing that saved me was the flannel I was wearing. From that day I have been much more careful and meticulous about the grinders I buy.
Yeah, that's real sketchy! I'll give it to the HF one I have that it's hard to turn on but it turns off pretty quickly once I release the button. Doesn't slow down that quickly but at least it's on its way if I lose control.
I. CAN'T. EVEN.......
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OK, OK. I too have seen photos like this in the past and said to myself, 'how can a person be SO stupid?' Well, now I know. No excuses, really stupid. No, this was NOT my chosen direction of fall. I had just minutes before dropped two other trees right near the tailgate of the truck to make loading easier without issue and spot on target to make bucking and loading easier. These are small trees so not a lot to work with on the stump, the hinge was whisper thin and it wouldn't go over. This one I felled against the lean and got it over the lean point but it just wouldn't fall, then the wind picked up and took it like a kite, tore the hinge and went right into my cab. No biggie, just a tiny ding that is barely visible, but still my humility took a nose dive.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Now that is a mushroom log logger right there. be honest, you were keeping it up off the ground to avoid contamination with some poisonous variety. you prob. just saved someone's life. DanG, don't be so humble @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) :) I sure hope the growers you sell to appreciate the sacrifices you are willing to make. ;) well at least the chain was not on backwards.... right? ;D
Dohhh! Could have been worse for sure.
I note that it took 21 minutes for the first response. Longer than I guessed. ;D No, there were no other buffoon like mistakes today, unless you count my back, but that is normal and not 'dumb related'.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 19, 2021, 05:10:59 PM
Dohhh! Could have been worse for sure.
Yeah, I don't like working in 25 MPH+ winds, and that really was what got me, but I should have known better. I hollered like heck the entire time the tree was falling, but it didn't seem to help much. :D
It reminds me of a customer who brought his new to him saw in because it wouldn't start. It had obviously been straight gassed, he sucked it up and paid for the rebuild. A few days later he brought it back, no power. I checked it, the saw was running fine but he didn't know to start the chain moving before starting the cut. Fast forward a few weeks. He is back with the saw in a box, biggest part was the carburetor. It seems he came upon his mates trying to drop a large Ponderosa pine, they had gone all the way around leaving a bolt in the middle. No problem, he cut through it with his longer bar. The tree took out the saw and his truck. These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
Quote from: sawguy21 on March 19, 2021, 09:42:48 PM
It reminds me of a customer who brought his new to him saw in because it wouldn't start. It had obviously been straight gassed, he sucked it up and paid for the rebuild. A few days later he brought it back, no power. I checked it, the saw was running fine but he didn't know to start the chain moving before starting the cut. Fast forward a few weeks. He is back with the saw in a box, biggest part was the carburetor. It seems he came upon his mates trying to drop a large Ponderosa pine, they had gone all the way around leaving a bolt in the middle. No problem, he cut through it with his longer bar. The tree took out the saw and his truck. These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
Your customer must have been the newest member, and needed to do a lot more studying.
GAB
Quote from: sawguy21 on March 19, 2021, 09:42:48 PM
It reminds me of a customer who brought his new to him saw in because it wouldn't start. It had obviously been straight gassed, he sucked it up and paid for the rebuild. A few days later he brought it back, no power. I checked it, the saw was running fine but he didn't know to start the chain moving before starting the cut. Fast forward a few weeks. He is back with the saw in a box, biggest part was the carburetor. It seems he came upon his mates trying to drop a large Ponderosa pine, they had gone all the way around leaving a bolt in the middle. No problem, he cut through it with his longer bar. The tree took out the saw and his truck. These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
I don't want to sound judgmental, but if I ever did stuff like that I would not show my face ever again. We all learn and make mistakes, but geez!
:D I thought all of them came out of the womb with a saw in their hands but apparently not. At least he was able to laugh at himself.
Quote from: sawguy21 on March 20, 2021, 11:26:05 AM........ At least he was able to laugh at himself.:D
If he couldn't, he would be alone.
We all do dumb stuff, but that fella seems to have a streak going. Perhaps not the sharpest tool in the shed.
As you already know OGH, I wrote the book on "Dumb" and published it like 2 weeks ago exactly, almost to the minute. I have recovered quite well. However, on my next edition, OGH, you can have a chapter yourself.
OH, that's not good. Glad to hear you are coming along since your book. I hope I can manage to not reach quite that level.
We all have those moments and no matter how hard we try, occasionally we just mis-think something. In fact, now that I recall, when I was an active fire instructor, I did a session on "non-thinking syndrome: NTS, the silent killer" which illuminated a bunch )with photos and videos) of serious incidents resulting from a simple brain cramp anybody could have had, it just happened at the wrong moment in time.
Nobody is immune.
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Quote from: Don P on March 18, 2021, 08:52:52 AM
Wow, how could a wheel not be rated for high speed.
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Don, you would be surprised.. Before I retired a part of my job (do it is your spare time..) was as the Machine Guarding Single Point of Accountability (SPA) (that is corporate speak for 'the guy we blame'). One of our plants had a wheel explosion and found it was an incorrect RPM rating so I have to go around our shop to every buffer, bench grinder, surface grinder, cylindrical grinder, thread grinder, ID grinder, and more to put labels on each one with it's spindle speed, then re-write all the wheel change procedures to include bold type about confirming the wheel speed rating before changing the wheel. (There were somewhere around 90 machines involved.)
As a result, we started to learn a lot of wheels we used routinely did not match or exceed the various machine speeds. We caught and fixed these as we discovered them. I got hammered in an audit later on because they had added two buffer/grinders without telling me and they had no labels. ;D I should have been shot on the spot, according to the auditor. SHAME! (Dang pencil pushers.)
In all my years studying safety issues with wheels and such, the grinding wheels and discs are bad but wire wheels are the worst. Strands come out and find the dangdist places to lodge, like eyeballs, legs, arms, faces, etc. I have had a very healthy respect for all of these bonded wheels since I was about 19 and had a 2" wide x 20" diameter cylindrical grinding wheel explode on me. Part went through the wall behind me, part went through the built up steel roof, and the rest we never found. Once was enough for me. We did have a guy in that shop that would blow up at least one wheel a week, even diamond wheels (which you have to work hard to do), but he drank a lot. :D
One of the Oil Rigs in the North Sea I used to visit had a brand new 10" bench grinder. VERY LARGE SIGN ATTACHED " DO NOT USE" Also the connecting plug removed. Some idiot had specified that it was fitted with a "Quick Stop" The first time it was used the Left hand Grindstone unscrewed and shattered inside the guard. Sometimes health and safety can go too far.
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The world slowed down as I just watched this sucker roll right off the other side. Rookie!!
So THAT'S what those stop thingees are for. :D
Don't worry you can do that with some experience too.
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OGH I hate to admit it but I did that to my Little John Deer also. Even had a rope tied from it to the tree so the tree would fall in that direction :-[. Found out ROPs are good protection from falling trees when you misjudge the height.
@lazyflee (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=49541) do you mean to tell me that power feed doesn't stop that from happening? What good is it then?
The manual clearly states EDITED BY ADMIN Will be calling Woodmizer tomorrow
Boy am I glad I've never done anything like that! ::)
I was sawing Saturday and forgot to lower my claw but my debarker found it before the blade. Then I did the same thing on the very next log and knocked some paint off the claw and ruined that blade. Duh! ;)
Wow, nearly 10 days without anybody admitting to doing something dumb only to find the last post was me anyway. ::) I had a customer call and wanted a couple of rough 2X12's about 14' long as sideboards to a new dump trailer and as luck would have it I had a couple of 15' ash 2X12's so I slid them off on the short forks of my FEL and took them out to the front lot. He'd mentioned trimming them to the exact length so I brought a square and my 15 amp Porter Cable 7-1/4" circle saw. I set the saw on my tool box between the tractor and FEL arms. When I got to the lot I lowered the boards on the FEL and caught the handle of the saw between the FEL arms and broke the pot metal on the handle. It still works but is not long for this world. Then when the customer arrived I had to take a belt sander to the ends of one of the boards to try to trim it to fit and used up a couple of belts just trying to do that. I just checked and see the saws like mine ranged in price from $54-$150. Pretty amazing to see that much difference. Anyway it looks like the $60 for the 2 boards will likely go to TSC for a replacement saw on my next trip to town. Like the guy buying gum for 25 cents a pack of 5 and selling it for a nickel a stick. He got a lot of business but didn't make a lot of money.
I saw that you had made a post here and my heart sank. But was very glad to see it was only a tool. That's a bummer, but a LOT cheaper than an ER visit. Besides, everyone needs a new saw once in a while. ;D
My turn.....I forgot to close the latches on my quick attach bale fork.... no animals were injured during the loading of the bale. I was fortunate. Got distracted by a phone call.... ::)
I remember doing something dumb the other day, so I hope that makes you feel better... but now I do not remember what it was, so sorry. I am sure it was not that dumb...!!! :) :) :) :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
Gee thanks..... ::) ::) ::)
yeah, I meant relative to me, not you ! not as dumb as usual for me! :'( :-[ :o ;) :)
Would not be the end of the week if I had not done some thing dumb. But, no blood, no harm.
I agree - there are degrees of dumbness. :D
I'm pretty certain I did something really dumb this week, but I have blocked it from my memory.
Well that was the dumb thing I was owning up to. Mostly to self reinforce and act as attrition for a near but completely avoidable disaster. I was hurrying, distracted, and my brain was at work, not on the job at hand. I know nobody else ever has that happen.... :)
PTSDD. you can guess what the first D stands for.
building a rack to cut firewood on. One end needed a little trimming. Yep hit the screw I just put in with the chainsaw
Did the same thing when I made my sawbuck.
I sawed my sawmill tire 2 weeks ago.
I put a fork in the trailer tire, I tried but Jesse said he was all out of 4" plugs :D
That fork in the tire deal was similar to my corner of the grapple bucket a few weeks ago no plug that big!!
We were cutting up some junk helicopter blade boxes, the saw stopped cutting halfway through one. Yep, a brand new $20,000 blade was hiding in it. One of only two in the country! We very nearly lost our jobs over that one.
I sawed my tooth a week ago. Chain turner tooth I mean. Guess it doesnt count because it wasnt today.
This would actually be "Did Something Smart". I tried to cut into a backstop, but the blade guard I built wouldn't allow it. Gotta love it. The guard extends 1/4" below the blade.
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Did anyone ever have a helper who started waving his arms?
More than once I've thought I was going to saw into my clamp or something worse.
But the guy just likes to wave his arms when he talks. Downright confusing.
Fuelling saw while telling kid to stay out of the bonfire smoke.. Waste motor oil in the gas tank.
Dangit.
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on April 03, 2021, 05:49:29 PM
I sawed my tooth a week ago. Chain turner tooth I mean. Guess it doesnt count because it wasnt today.
It counts man, it counts.
@mike_belben (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33722) now that is funny. Very annoying but still funny.
It did still run but quite poorly. I was at a ladys house from church to burn a stump pile for her and didnt even realize i had no other gas. Got it done.
Quote from: mike_belben on April 04, 2021, 10:05:08 PM
It did still run but quite poorly.
This part made me really laugh...NEVER give up man!
No.. A quitter i am not. Way too stubborn for it.
It's 5:10, I have an appointment at 5:30. What to do with 20 minutes? Oh ya, I hit something with chain saw while bucking logs the other day. I'll change the chain. Got the sharp chain pretty quick. It was actually where it should be. For me that's pretty good. Now where did I leave any one of my dozen screnches? 5 minutes, the clock is ticking..... Take the dull chain off, yup, many tips rounded off. Clean everything up put it back together, put the bar protector on, put the saw back and shut the door on the tool box. What do you suppose is sitting on top of the tool box? Ayup, the sharp chain. At least I put the dull chain on in the correct direction! I still got the sharp chain on by 5:30.
mh
You should have after that much practice. :D
Quote from: moosehunter on April 05, 2021, 06:28:20 PM
It's 5:10, I have an appointment at 5:30. What to do with 20 minutes? Oh ya, I hit something with chain saw while bucking logs the other day. I'll change the chain. Got the sharp chain pretty quick. It was actually where it should be. For me that's pretty good. Now where did I leave any one of my dozen screnches? 5 minutes, the clock is ticking..... Take the dull chain off, yup, many tips rounded off. Clean everything up put it back together, put the bar protector on, put the saw back and shut the door on the tool box. What do you suppose is sitting on top of the tool box? Ayup, the sharp chain. At least I put the dull chain on in the correct direction! I still got the sharp chain on by 5:30.
mh
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D :) Oh man, if I had a nickel for every time I did something 'Like' this. Sorry man, but that's funny. I thought it was just me.
No, it's not just you. Believe me! :D
Read that one to my wife she said, "hmmm, sounds like you". I think I only have six screches though, laughing with you...
Working on my gravel driveway. I had a few ruts from the spring thaw. Don't need water running down the ruts. I pick up the gravel that gets plowed up beside the dirt road I live on. I mow beside the road so I don't want to mow the ridge with gravel and rocks in it. I had a bucket full of dirt that I was shoveling into the ruts. I set the brake and put the shovel beside the tractor, by the front tire. Just as my feet hit the ground the tractor starts to slowly roll down hill. No big deal, I just get back onto the tractor and reset the brake. Remember where I put the shovel? Just about as I get back into the seat, I hear a noise that I should not be hearing!! Shovel is under the front tire of tractor. On well that shovel was just about worn out anyways, :D ::). I needed a new one. ::) I could of moved the shovel very easily, but forgot I put it there.
At least you know a hardware store where you can get a new one ;D.
Probably even gets an employee discount. :D
You're gonna need a bigger shovel if you want to use it as a wheel chock.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on April 06, 2021, 10:21:05 AM
You're gonna need a bigger shovel if you want to use it as a wheel chock.
My son tried using his fire helmet vas a wheel chock for the engine and it didn't work out so good. Actually that wasn't his plan, he thought his gear was out of the way, but the driver didn't see it. I ran over my own pager once at a call, it fell off my bunkers when climbing in the engine and I ran the dang thing over. I think both those things happened during the 3 days of non-stop calls during hurricane Irene. We were all fried.
Shovel has been replaced!!!
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) I think you know if a firetruck can run over it, firefighters will run over it. We have ran over helmets, turnout gear, station boots(does a number on steel toes), wheel chocks, radios, buckets, mailboxes, etc.
My wheel chock was a saw box. Parked tractor on side of hill and set parking brake. Pull the saw from the box and set box in behind tractor and commenced cutting. Later in the day went to put the saw up and found the box chocking the tire. Parking brake must need adjusting!
Well, this dumb thing really happened about 6 months ago I think. I put in a new kitchen faucet back then and I guess the cold water valve under the sink has been leaking since then. Sometimes when you shut a valve off, it will leak after re-opening. I know this and always check. It must have taken quite a while to actually show itself and I didn't notice it at the time. Well, fast forward 6 months and my wife called me at work last night. There is water dripping in son's room below. Ceiling paneling is buckled. I told her it was probably a leak in a shutoff above the room and not a big deal. Well, since I found the leak in the kitchen, I also found water damage in the wall, insulation, subfloor and even some wet spots are now visible in the hardwood floor in the kitchen. Didn't notice that because of the rug in front of the sink. What a mess I have to deal with. Have to remove a bunch of dry wall in son's room and at least the floor is carpet squares. Also had some mold in the space above the ceiling. The good news is that I replaced the valve and it doesn't leak. Oh well. Its not like I wanted to mill walnut today.
Faucet troubles brought back a memory. When my wife's folks retired down to the redneck riviera whenever one us 4 son's or son in laws would visit we would check on things and fix up. During one of our visits I noticed the kitchen faucet was dripping, the water was not the greatest on plumbing. Wanting to get it done and not make multiple trips to the hardware I just bought a whole new faucet and installed it. Thinking the old one would work just fine out at the cleaning sink on the dock I took it downstairs to put on the shelf for later. Yup, there were three others lined up, great minds think alike :D.
Mathematical truths:
For a right triangle a squared +b squared = c squared.
Areas of a circle pi r squared
Circumference of a circle 2 pi r
10 x 10 = 100
For plumbing 1 trip to Lowes = 3 trips to Lowes
:D
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) as the farmer said to his son returning from college, "son everybody knows that pie R round!" :)
Some one comes into the store for plumbing parts. I tell them we close at 6. ;D :(
If we all did plumbing as much as sawing, we would know how to do it better!!
Quote from: doc henderson on April 09, 2021, 07:05:55 AM
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) as the farmer said to his son returning from college, "son everybody knows that pie R round!" :)
Yes, pie are round, but Cornbread are square!
This is why I have MORE than several drawers with all those mis-bought parts and fitting and leftovers. It is SO nice to find a leak on a Sunday night and just go out to the shop, pick the fittings I need and fix it in 20 minutes with no trip to lowes. The problem is find the fitting, the RIGHT fitting. But when it happens, it's golden.
I tried to pick up some 1/4" couplings and close nips the other day because I have no more in the drawer and holy cow Lowes and HD are very proud of their fittings. I'll wait to hit a plumbing supply and get them for a buck a piece. One of the few things I miss about working was pulling all those fitting out of the scrap barrel. I went 40 years without hardly ever buying any, just collecting discards.
Quote from: thecfarm on April 09, 2021, 07:07:30 AM
Some one comes into the store for plumbing parts. I tell them we close at 6. ;D :(
If we all did plumbing as much as sawing, we would know how to do it better!!
I have no experience as a plumber other than a few years ago I took on a "labourer" position on a plumbing crew, turns out all they really needed me for was making runs to the hardware store, 3 sometimes 4 times a day :D so the previous comments gave me a chuckle
Marty and I only had to make 2 trips to Home Depot last evening. (The hardware store was closed.) The first trip was a bust because they were out of water heater element wrenches. Yes the element(s) can be removed with an oversize crescent wrench combined with a small pipe wrench. We did OK on the second trip and got the total package which included 2ea. elements and thermostats. Might as well change out everything while the tank is drained. Supper was late.
OG, my dad has several plastic tubs where he keeps all his extra plumbing fittings and valves and various other extra plumbing stuff. I always look there first before I head to the store. When I do go to the store I always get extra and put what I don't use in the tubs. As you say, It's nice to find what you need at home and save a trip. Mom and dad live walking distance away(I drive the mule). Someday I will inherit those tubs and It will be up to me to keep the tubs supplied. I ended up replacing the leaky valve with a shark bite type valve. I intended to replace hot and cold, but didn't end up replacing the hot. I rebuilt it with parts from one of the spares from the tubs. I will of course put the extra shark bite I bought in the tubs.
my neighbors check with me before they go to the big box store!
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on April 09, 2021, 08:51:48 AM
OG, my dad has several plastic tubs where he keeps all his extra plumbing fittings and valves and various other extra plumbing stuff. I always look there first before I head to the store. When I do go to the store I always get extra and put what I don't use in the tubs. As you say, It's nice to find what you need at home and save a trip. Mom and dad live walking distance away(I drive the mule). Someday I will inherit those tubs and It will be up to me to keep the tubs supplied. I ended up replacing the leaky valve with a shark bite type valve. I intended to replace hot and cold, but didn't end up replacing the hot. I rebuilt it with parts from one of the spares from the tubs. I will of course put the extra shark bite I bought in the tubs.
I used to 'tubs, boxes, crates, large drawers' method for years but it takes SO long to find something. Lately as I get a chance when I am tired, I have smaller drawers available and am sorting more by size and use. I have up to 2-1/2" stuff and the 1/4 and 1/2" stuff gets lost in there. I also try to separate out household plumbing fixtures and parts. It's a never ending task, but paying off in reduced search time.
Doc, none of my neighbors fix things anymore, if they have a plumbing emergency it is usually me figuring out what they need and digging it up or sending them to Lowes armed with a photo of the item to fetch. :D
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 09, 2021, 09:22:49 AMnone of my neighbors fix things anymore, if they have a plumbing emergency it is usually me
Do you make long distance house calls? :D
I'm tired of doing it!!
:D I have various bits and pieces but never find what I need until after I return from the store and the job is completed. I mislaid a rather spendy and hard to find part for the truck which as it turned out I didn't need. Found it when I cleaned the cab out. ::)
Quote from: doc henderson on April 09, 2021, 09:10:21 AM
my neighbors check with me before they go to the big box store!
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And this is before I finished sorting. Packed to the gills now. More stuff on the other side and end of the shop.
Nice! Parmesan cheese containers work great
That looks like my reloading room, except mine's not as neat.
Quote from: Walnut Beast on April 09, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
Nice! Parmesan cheese containers work great
Just pop the top and sprinkle out a few screws.
My daily dumbness does not rise to the level I usually achieve. After sawing all day and going with the customer to cut and drag up 2 last logs to finish the order I noticed the hours on the mill, checked the gas and found it was low so I added a couple gallons from my spare can. A few minutes later in the first or second cut, the engine began to sputter and choke down. After careful analysis I concluded gasoline engines run better when the hose from the gas tank to the engine is actually plugged back in after you refill it. ::)
Well, isn't that amazing? :D It is a good thing we can laugh and not take ourselves too seriously.
At least that problem did not hurt the wallet!!!
Quote from: WDH on April 09, 2021, 07:02:41 AM
Mathematical truths:
For a right triangle a squared +b squared = c squared.
Areas of a circle pi r squared
Circumference of a circle 2 pi r
10 x 10 = 100
For plumbing 1 trip to Lowes = 3 trips to Lowes
:D
Logs and cookies crack because tangential/radial shrinkage does not equal pi.
One order of sawmill parts isnt enough.
Quote from: thecfarm on April 10, 2021, 05:32:24 AM
At least that problem did not hurt the wallet!!!
Or the body!
OGH,
Cornbread are round like a cast iron skillet around here! :)
Well that may be, but it are square here, we use a 9" square pan. ;D
My turn, I was going to keep this one a secret, but what the heck. The other day I was waiting for a guy to come pick up some mushroom logs and decided to rest my legs for a little bit and sit in the sun for as few minutes. I forget to take breaks from time to time. Any we had one of those 'bag chairs' as we call them by the garage and it is on the way out with a tear in the seat from my son flopping into it last year. I sat down carefully and it held just fine. After a while, the customer showed up and I went to get up without thinking. Well as soon as I leaned forward, the rest of that seat gave way and my butt dropped through the hole quicker than spit. There I am with my legs sticking up into the air and this guy is backing into the other driveway. It took me a minute to get myself extricated. It must have been funny to watch, but nobody saw it, thankfully. Now I gotta find another chair or fix this one. ;D
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Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 10, 2021, 08:29:07 AM
Well that may be, but it are square here, we use a 9" square pan. ;D
My turn, I was going to keep this one a secret, but what the heck. The other day I was waiting for a guy to come pick up some mushroom logs and decided to rest my legs for a little bit and sit in the sun for as few minutes. I forget to take breaks from time to time. Any we had one of those 'bag chairs' as we call them by the garage and it is on the way out with a tear in the seat from my son flopping into it last year. I sat down carefully and it held just fine. After a while, the customer showed up and I went to get up without thinking. Well as soon as I leaned forward, the rest of that seat gave way and my butt dropped through the hole quicker than spit. There I am with my legs sticking up into the air and this guy is backing into the other driveway. It took me a minute to get myself extricated. It must have been funny to watch, but nobody saw it, thankfully. Now I gotta find another chair or fix this one. ;D
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I'm laughing with you not at you, but that is funny! I can imagine me in that predicament for sure!
Tom,
I'd love to have seen a video of that! "Help, help, the chairs got me and won't let me go."
Actually I did make another mistake yesterday that did cost me some money. I was sawing 2X10s and had my SimpleSet set for 2-1/8" drops. When I'd cut a slab or flitch I'd push it on the loading arms and my customer and his helper would stack it in the appropriate pile. They were very neat and organized about it. Sometimes I'd toss a slab on the arms to resaw when it appeared I could salvage another 8'- 2X4 out of it. I'd tossed a slab on the arms and was about 3' in my next cut when they asked me what to do with the slab and I pointed to the appropriate pile and accidentally bumped the up/down toggle with my R hand and of course it started dropping to the next setting. It was enough it stretched/bent and crimped the blade before I got it stopped so I had to back out of the cut and change bands. Not the worst or most embarrassing mistake I've made and won' be the last I am sure.
I have a chair that that will probably join it soon. ;D
Yesterday I resawed a 1x7 piece of cherry on my bandsaw for a customer. It seemed to cut ok until I got all the way thru and noticed the cut had strayed terribly. That's when I realized I hadn't tensioned the blade. I was surprised it even cut. I guess I was saved by the thrust bearings.
;) Forgetting to tension a band before cutting, naw never heard of that..... That's kinda similar to forgetting to shut off the lube dripper at the end of the cut when you need to flip the cant or move a board or two.
I've also forgotten but remembered before trying to saw that way.
Quote from: Nebraska on April 10, 2021, 03:49:39 PM
;) Forgetting to tension a band before cutting, naw never heard of that..... That's kinda similar to forgetting to shut off the lube dripper at the end of the cut when you need to flip the cant or move a board or two.
The other day I put a chain on backwards after i flipped my bar and proceeded to try to cut with it :D not sure if common but was a first for me. felt dumb
Gee, I am sure glad I have never done that. ::) ::) :-X :D :D :D :D
I haven't but I did hear of a guy that intentionally put his on backward because he intended to saw from the underside of the logs. ::)
:D I had a customer do that then brought the saw in because the new chain wouldn't cut.
I can't remember the guy's name ::) but I heard about a guy one time who thought his chainsaw had locked/seized up and took it to a friend who had a small engine shop and found the chain brake was on and that was why the chain wouldn't roll. I sure wish I could remember that guys name. ;D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 11, 2021, 04:49:35 PM
....... I sure wish I could remember that guys name. ;D
Maybe it's just as well that you can't, just sayin' :D ;D
I just got back from a trip to Gatlinburg, this past Saturday. My dumb thing happened on the way down... I pride myself on being a map fan and I have a pretty good sense of direction. That being said, with the future being now, I just printed up the directions from Google Maps and we went on our way. The directions, when I looked at them quickly, just said take I-75 south to 66. There was a million lines of info between that I didn't need so I didn't look too hard and it should be easy enough to keep an eye out for 66. Well, from Dayton, this is about a 6 hour drive. I'm with the family so we take a few pitstops after leaving home around 930am. I don't pay a whole lot of attention, but we're keeping watch for 66. It never comes, so we keep driving, it still never comes. We stop for gas and I say "man, it seems like we've been driving quite a ways..." and I open up the map on my phone and turn on location to see where we are. Well, it turns out we were near Cleveland, TN, which is almost Georgia and we missed the turn (onto Rt. 40 no less) about an hour and a half back. We ended up taking the south east route into Gatlinburg and that 6 hours turned into 12 as we got to the cabin at about 915pm.
The kids made fun of me for the rest of the trip. Oh yeah, we also went to Biltmore in Asheville, NC and you guessed it, we got lost both on the way there and the way back. Ridiculous.
As I say when I miss a turn, we would of never seen this. :D
My FIL is always trying to tell me how to go. ::) Take this route and this route and this route and this route that will save you 15 minutes. Miss one route and there goes that 15 minutes. The long way is sometimes the quickest way. ;)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 11, 2021, 04:49:35 PM
I can't remember the guy's name ::) but I heard about a guy one time who thought his chainsaw had locked/seized up and took it to a friend who had a small engine shop and found the chain brake was on and that was why the chain wouldn't roll. I sure wish I could remember that guys name. ;D
I know it was not me. I had my wife take mine! :)
Probably the same tale and I must have just got the details crossed up. :D :D
Got off work at 0700 this morning and went to pick up my trailer that had been loaded with logs. Mostly small walnut and oak, nothing to speak of. Brought it home with no trouble. Shortly after I got home I went into the kiln to re-arrange things to get ready to list some for sale. Walked back past the truck and heard a hissing sound and assumed it was coming from my camper propane tank. Nope, it was coming from my truck. I found a shard of metal sticking out of one of my rear tires. I love my truck, but I hate changing a tire on a 1 ton. I got the nuts off, but the wheel didn't want to budge. I pulled, kicked and pried to no avail. Finally I thought to get a 2x4x8 and put it against the inside of the wheel and hit it with a sledge from the other side. Voila! That worked. Now I'm waiting to see if my tire can be repaired. I really don't want to buy new tires until winter.
About that traveling, sometimes it is not smart to trust your phone for navigation. When I went to Hereford Colorado to pick up my F-450, we were on the highway heading for the town, and my friend put the address of the place we were going on his phone, and the phone said to make this turn. It was through a cattle guard on a dirt road. So we followed the phone's instructions, and out in the middle of nowhere the phone announced you have arrived at your destination. There was a house nearby, so drove up there, and this woman said she had never heard of the guy who had the truck. So we wound up driving another about 40 miles of dirt roads just to get back to the highway. Finally got an address for a business in town, and the phone directed us to that place. The guy was less than a mile away.
Yeah, GPS is not perfect. I have lots of people coming to buy from me, but GPS takes people on the wrong driveway. My neighbor's driveway is in the woods not far from my house, so GPS takes people down that driveway. They get right behind my pond and it says you have arrived. His driveway is about 1/4 mile long. It sucks for him to have people showing up at his place which is supposed to be off the beaten path. Now I give my address, but with a long description to not trust GPS and make sure to find my mailbox with my address and orange sawblade decals on it. I don't want to have any kind of sign with my business name on it, because I don't want people showing up unannounced.
More people have gotten into trouble blindly following the GPS like the couple that showed up at the Canadian border with a loaded handgun in the glove box. It didn't go well for them. My girlfriend used hers to find an address in a neighbouring town, I know the area quite well but she wouldn't give me the address. We wandered all over backroads until we found the place we were looking for. When we left I directed her back to the main road, two minutes away.
I usually try to just look at a map and take notes because I've found the GPS to either be wrong or I feel myself get dumber every time I use it. Didn't work like that this past time.
There's a road nearby that has signs from both directions "GPS routing not advised". Apparently the phone tries to send truckers down it over and over. Depending on how determined they are, they keep trying till they are pinched in switchbacks and inspecting the back doors of their trailer from the cab :D.
I can't speak to glossing over the details on google maps, we went to a little town in NC by way of SC the other week :D. I stopped at the rest area on the way back into state and got a map I unnerstand!
My kids think I am a dinosaur, I always have a road atlas in the truck if I take a trip.
I traveled the last twenty years of my career and I had my share of GPS mis-directions. But I also have had a few printed maps with errors. When our first born son was just 6 weeks old we took a trip to the Chicago area and stuck going back and forth thru tolls booths looking for an exit that was on the map, but not on the highway. :embarassed:
Quote from: Don P on April 22, 2021, 08:19:47 AMThere's a road nearby that has signs from both directions "GPS routing not advised"
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Been reading an enjoying these. I bought a small Tom-Tom GPS a number of years back and used it a lot but quickly learned to confirm EVERY planned route with a map before venturing to unknown territory. I still like maps the most but they can be hard to read as you drive through complex sections. I use google maps and print out the unfamiliar areas. Around here the cell coverage is spotty and can quit just when you need it most, so I still keep that GPS unit in the truck because it works off satellites and is much more reliable. I have never 'lost' the signal on that. But the maps in those can be wrong, telling you to 'turn left' while you are staring at a large sign that says "No Left Turn" or finding roads that don't exist. The first house on the corner of our road is one of the oldest around and was built long before the reservoir (1903) back at that time it was a farm on the outskirts of the village that is now under the reservoir. Anyway, the GPS shows their driveway that cuts around the back of their house from one road to the other, as a road and is constantly trying to direct me over that road. SO I never trust any of the GPS devices of any design.
Visiting my cousin in Texas driving from Waco to Angleton at night I used the GPS unit in the rental car (ordered up special for extra cost at that time). I was unfamiliar with approaching their neighborhood from that direction and the GPS had me making a left turn into and through an open field of about 20 acres. I was tired after 3 days of intense business in Waco and a 4 hour drive which included the loop around Houston (those folks are NUTS!). No road, track or trail was even visible. I looped around twice to confirm it and I was so unfamiliar with the area, especially in the dark, and knew that I was within 1 mile of their house so I just went back to my own logic and drove on and made the next left, went down a ways and made another left to come in from the side I was more familiar with (only 5 years since the prior visit). Sure enough, the GPS 'recalculated' and brought me to their address. I later learned that where the GPS 'wanted' me to go had been a PLANNED road for their development that never happened.
So, 'trust but confirm' is always my motto.
I need that sign on my road.
Several years ago coming home from Florida, pulling my fifth wheel I went on a road that my GPS told me to go on. I sure wish that sign had been there. Between the curves, low hanging limbs and blind hills I'm amazed I made it thru without incident.
QuoteApparently the phone tries to send truckers down it over and over. Depending on how determined they are, they keep trying till they are pinched in switchbacks and inspecting the back doors of their trailer from the cab
There are 2 kinds of GPS, truck route and car route, the truck route will be designed for a 13' 6" tall truck pulling a 53' long trailer. I drove for twenty years as a professional truck driver, and often delivered to new construction projects "Where The Streets Have No Name." ;D
I learned a paper map is only good for a couple years until the state decides to build a new interstate. For the same reason a GPS is only as good as it's last update, and will show you in the middle of a corn field when your actually on a new bypass. The satellite picture view helps a lot, but again the image could be 7 years old. Plan your route before you leave, call ahead to your destination, and check the state DOT website for the most up to date map. This will also tell where the major road construction projects are, before you start "recalculating shortest route..."
I route with Garmin every day, 20 stops or more. I think it is pretty good in Ny terrible in PA . It is always a good idea to look before making a turn onto a back road. 😜
There are different settings in your GPS and one that I believe most people set is "shortest route". This one is the likely suspect of most peoples troubles, leading you through mapped trails and tracks etc. Check out the different settings in your GPS and choose an appropriate one other than "shortest route".
Also in "avoidances " pic "avoid dirt roads."
I wish there were "avoid parkways"
Me too, in this state it's illegal to drive a commercial vehicle on one.
Yeah, that is kind of unique to our area and what a pain. I have been pulled over several times for 'perceived infractions'. It ridiculous. I played the game for a while having a backseat with seatbelts in the back of my pickup and a non-commercial registration, but then the cops wanted to ticket me for 'improper registration' even though I fit within the law to a Tee. They hated it. Never got a ticket, but had a lot of 'roadside conversations'.
Drive in the parkway and park in the driveway. smiley_huh
I didn't know it was illegal when I first started driving the ln truck and I was happily coming up the Toncnnough (sp) parkway talking on the phone with our sales guy. When he realized where I was he screamed " get the F off of there!"
One of our guys drove the fuel truck through the Massey tunnel south of Vancouver, that caused him and the company some grief
A parkway is different from another highway how? Sorry my rural upbringing is showing.....
Quote from: Nebraska on April 22, 2021, 06:59:35 PM
A parkway is different from another highway how? Sorry my rural upbringing is showing.....
This is a little hard to explain but back in the day when motor cars became really popular as recreation Southeast NY and Western CT designed and developed roads intended to be used for pleasure driving, taking the family out on a Sunday drive. They were alike parks with select trees and shrubs, mowed lawns, beautiful stone laid overpasses. These were never intended for heavy traffic, let alone commercial trucks. The clearances on many bridges were under 12 feet. Consequently they are for passenger cars only. These roads were also designed for cars that couldn't possibly reach 50 MPH on their best day. Over the decades these roads became death traps at high speeds because of how they wind. The park-like maintenance has also gone down in recent decades due to budget cuts. Some on Long Island look absolutely terrible and are in very poor shape. From time to time a sleepy tractor trailer will happen onto one of these parkways and rip the top off the trailer, or worse.
The time for these has passed, but they still enforce the 'passenger car only rule'. If you sneak on with a pickup with commercial plates (which every pickup in NYS is supposed to have regardless of use), you get a ticket.
well made the second mark on my log stops. It was getting dusky, and the sound was nicely complimented by all the sparks. I was watching the right side to make sure I missed the clamp.
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once every 7 years is not too bad.
MAN! you nailed that sucker good! :D :D :D
Not to worry, one of us (certainly not ME) will do it also in the next week or so. :D :D
I think I am getting better at it! :D :D :D
. . . but you saved the clamp!
Quote from: doc henderson on April 22, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
I think I am getting better at it! :D :D :D
That's what Pablo Cassels said when a reporter asked him why he continued to practice 6-8 hours a day.
Quote from: Nebraska on April 22, 2021, 06:59:35 PM
A parkway is different from another highway how? Sorry my rural upbringing is showing.....
In CT we have only one parkway as far as I know. The Merritt Parkway. Signs at the on-ramp say prohibited-commercial vehicles, trailers, combination vehicles over 7500 lb GVWR. In CT a commercial vehicle has a GVWR over 26000# and is used in business. A trailer is a trailer. A combination vehicle is a license plate designation says "comb" on it which means combined business/personal use as opposed to passenger plate, that's what mine has and many pickups are registered with that plate. So many pickups have over 7500# gvwr which my F350 has and I cant drive on that parkway, with or without towing a sawmill.
Cross over into NY and there are many more parkways. Problem is that if you use phone mapping that will put you on a parkway and you dont pay attention when you map a route you'll be directed to a parkway and when you realize that you may have been directed quite a ways out of your way. And it's not always easy on a phone to get it to map an alternate route where you take I-95 or a state highway instead.
Occasionally I get on a parkway during travel with the jeep and it's not everything it is cracked up to be. Feels like going somewhere where I have to wear a tie and cant wait to get out of there. :)
Quote from: Andries on April 22, 2021, 09:44:08 PM
. . . but you saved the clamp!
There are several Fire departments along the St. Lawrence river that have marine units (fire boats) that respond to island fires. They all have the same (unwritten) motto "we haven't lost a foundation yet!" (understand that responses to island fires take time. The crew has to get interior gear from the firehouse to the dock, transfer it to their boat, then respond at (maybe) 35 mph for up to 20 miles sometimes more if it's out on the lake.)
Quote from: doc henderson on April 22, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
I think I am getting better at it! :D :D :D
Well, higher than the last one, you should be good to go now, the next ones should all be above the stop. ;D
I think if i trimmed a bit more off the first one then I could start on the second one. sadly, I left them up a bit to situate the remaining cant, but only needed the hooks to hold it as i had a nice 90° edge. It was not as painful, and I smiled a little as i knew I would get to share this with you all. God bless America! usflag
Quote from: breederman on April 22, 2021, 05:32:45 PMToncnnough
Taconic state Parkway. Used to live in Croton-on-the-Hudson. Would take the canoe up the Taconic to fish in some lakes in that area.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 11, 2021, 04:49:35 PM
I can't remember the guy's name ::) but I heard about a guy one time who thought his chainsaw had locked/seized up and took it to a friend who had a small engine shop and found the chain brake was on and that was why the chain wouldn't roll. I sure wish I could remember that guys name. ;D
I started out around the house with an older homelite with no chainbrake. My first time cutting for someone else they offered me the use of their much newer saw and then left for work. I had the exact same issue but I called a shop and saved the face to face embarassment. Anybody else remember trying to use the push button oiler when it wasn't there anymore? My newest saw has one it is in addition to the automatic oiler. I've come full circle but now I never remember to use it.
Seemed like "in the heat of battle" when you need oil the most I would be focused on the cut and forget to oil till I saw smoke rolling. That old solid mount Craftsman had a built in sharpener too :D.
Yes, very often we save foundations when we DON'T have to take a boat to get there. We have some areas where we can't take big trucks to get to houses. I have been involved in saving some foundations there. One particular spot has been talked about many times as to what we might do if if a fire were to occur there. We would have to drag hose across the little bridge and take our smallest truck which carried 500 gallons of water. Of course that truck took a while to get there. I dragged 5" hose across the bridge with my staff truck to the first turn and then I couldn't drag it any further. Then I made trips back and forth across the bridge to get all the 3" hose off of trucks and laid it further up the road. After about 3 trips to get about 800 feet of hose each trip we finally got more water to the foundation. The county has since built a new bridge that we can drive over.
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I sure appreciate my right and freedom to saw into my sawmill. I have taken that opportunity many times. The sparks are like fireworks at the 4th of July!
Who makes a saw with a push button oiler these days?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the MS880 and 3120XP may still have manual over rides, it has been some time since I have seen them. We have a fairly new subdivision that was refused fire protection because some bureaucrat who was not an engineer and hadn't taken the time to even drive out to see the bridge determined it was unsafe for heavy vehicles. ::) A Bailey bridge has been installed while a new one is built so the residents are safer.
Now don't laugh! I tore down a chain saw yesterday. Blew it off good and did some work on it that needed done. Piddled around a while and finally got it all back together. Fueled it and was going to fire it up. Light bulb went off in my head. I had forgotten to remove the wad of paper towel I had put into the intake throat. Well, I guess I will be faster at reassembly this time. ;D
You are not the first to do that ahem
What would our repairs be like if we didnt make mistakes?
Or drop things.
Or lose things.
Or break things trying?
::) ::) ::)
Bedway, I guess that is better than having left over parts...
That you forgot to use in reassemble. ::)
Quote from: sawguy21 on April 23, 2021, 11:23:47 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the MS880 and 3120XP may still have manual over rides, it has been some time since I have seen them. We have a fairly new subdivision that was refused fire protection because some bureaucrat who was not an engineer and hadn't taken the time to even drive out to see the bridge determined it was unsafe for heavy vehicles. ::) A Bailey bridge has been installed while a new one is built so the residents are safer.
880 doesn't. If it does it's hidden and I've never seen it in 5 years.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on April 21, 2021, 10:26:28 AM
Yeah, GPS is not perfect. I have lots of people coming to buy from me, but GPS takes people on the wrong driveway. My neighbor's driveway is in the woods not far from my house, so GPS takes people down that driveway. They get right behind my pond and it says you have arrived. His driveway is about 1/4 mile long. It sucks for him to have people showing up at his place which is supposed to be off the beaten path. Now I give my address, but with a long description to not trust GPS and make sure to find my mailbox with my address and orange sawblade decals on it. I don't want to have any kind of sign with my business name on it, because I don't want people showing up unannounced.
Drop them a pin in Google Maps to get them to your location. That's one of the best pieces of technology for me in the last 20 years.
Wudman
Quote from: Wudman on April 28, 2021, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on April 21, 2021, 10:26:28 AM
Yeah, GPS is not perfect. I have lots of people coming to buy from me, but GPS takes people on the wrong driveway. My neighbor's driveway is in the woods not far from my house, so GPS takes people down that driveway. They get right behind my pond and it says you have arrived. His driveway is about 1/4 mile long. It sucks for him to have people showing up at his place which is supposed to be off the beaten path. Now I give my address, but with a long description to not trust GPS and make sure to find my mailbox with my address and orange sawblade decals on it. I don't want to have any kind of sign with my business name on it, because I don't want people showing up unannounced.
them a pin in Google Maps to get them to your location. That's one of the best pieces of technology for me in the last 20 years.
Wudman
Good idea. I will try that. Thanks. This should bring them right to my driveway.
Well, I ALMOST did something dumb, but stopped JUST short.
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Yup, tuning the 372 trying to get the idle speed down but steady, so it doesn't stall. Took it out to the log pile and did the final adjustments there using some wood to try it out. The saw was just winding down when the bar touched my shoe. Technically I did kind of sort of ruin a new pair of boots less than a month old, but, it might have been worse if I had sandals on. ;D Just shows you that fancy plastic don't hold up too well to the chain even at low rpm.
:o That is too close for comfort!
Looks like you can still wear those boots and they will be a good reminder of what can happen.
Tom,
I know with the recent warmer weather and increasing humidity, athletes foot and toe fungus is an issue for many of us but I suggest you try a good corn starch based foot powder and heavy, absorbent, white cotton socks as an alternative to cutting ventilation holes in your boots. Hey, that's just my thoughts on the problem. You handle it any way you feel comfortable. :D
Yesterday while milling 1x4x8' Alone. I was trying to keep up with myself (oh yeah, I was cutting 3 at a time) and not really doing a very good job at it. As I rounded the front of the mill at a good clip, I might have cut the corner just a bit with my right leg. 😳 you know how the mill shakes if you roll a log on and it hit the side supports? It doesn't shake like that when you cut that corner with your right leg 🤔
Kinda did something along the line of the topic, mill was making a ticking sound kinda like I had a cracked band on its way out. I kept running it trying to get the last bit of life out of the steel I paid for...(probably because I'm cheap) then realized it was my blade wheel working away on the pillow block. Grub screws came loose, upon closer inspection the builder of my mill had installed that block backwards leading to an alignment/clearance issue I had been chasing for awhile, not sure how I missed it.
Moral of the story, when ya hear an off sound, shut down and check it out!
Anyway, I'll be using loctite on the next set of grub screws. The blocks on there were cheap no name offshore garbage. One thing at a time I guess, the other side is rolling on new US made blocks. Spendy but night and day difference in quality. New belt tensioner idler pulley on the way too, I am upgrading to a cooks idler wheel once I fabricate the new system, but that might take awhile. Til then it's lawnmower parts.....
While working on my flooring last night I made an end cut with my miter saw and did not wait for the blade to stop before raising it back up. The guard pulled the cutoff piece up into the still spinning blade. There was a LOUD bang!
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The safety guard ended up out in the lawn.
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Fortunately everything but the shield is fine. The incident caused a raised heartbeat for a few minutes!
New shield already ordered. Maybe I'll remember to let the blade stop from now on. Maybe. ::)
mh
:o I imagine that got your attention!
Has your pooch decided weather it's safe to come back onto the porch yet? 😆
I hate it when that happens.....
I had to do some coaxing to get Grommit to come back in the house!! He was already leary of the compressor and nail gun!
mh
cant tell from picture, but is your dog's tail now shorter?
@moosehunter (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1405) Grommit...that's a great name for a dog. Do you like cheese by any chance?
I have a very positive hook angle blade on miter saw and any piece smaller than an inch or so gets lifted up by the blade if I don't slow it down before letting it back up. It makes and loud bang, but I have not destroyed the guard yet. I try to always stop it before raising up any time I'm cutting off a small piece.
Quote from: moosehunter on April 30, 2021, 01:54:22 PM
I had to do some coaxing to get Grommit to come back in the house!! He was already leary of the compressor and nail gun!
mh
You're fortunate. I cant get my cat to hang out with me in the shop.
Not sure if it would matter whether I turned on the dust collector or planer first.
Grommit's tail has always been short, I didn't do it! His brother died from cancer last year. His name was Wallace. That should answer your cheese question! Grommit is a great helper right up to the first nail gun shot. Then he disappears.
mh
MH:
I think your dog is afraid of getting nailed.
GAB
Well, the physical therapist just left from his first visit with the boss after her knee surgery, that was his dumb move :D. The bruising, screams and tears. He'll probably be ok by Monday though.
Send him my way... I just absent mindedly picked up one of my jack stands by the top jack part, I had a couple scrapboards in the other hand felt it sliding and failed to grab it..... and well, the stand part proved that gravity still works from about waist high. It landed across my left big toe right at the first joint. I rarely wear tennis shoes....Took my work boots off when I came in for supper. I said really loud bad words...We are cleaning the garage for a graduation party....
I love my composite toed red wing boots. i can get you the model number if you like to spend money on stuff. :) :) :). I get some with a softer upper and sole, and they do not require a break in period. not as tough as some of the leather ones, but feel and run like tennis shoes.
First time I've worn them in months, just didn't feel like lacing up the boots again, it's not so bad this morning a little sore with an outline of the edge of the metal across the top of the toe. Good boots are a job requirement.
I love this topic and thread, it reminds me that "Todd, you're not the only one that domes some really stupid 🤬".
I feel better having gotten that off of my chest.
For my little dumb thing happened yesterday while I was "helping" my FIL clean up his yard.
Well, I was cutting down some serious thick (think 4"+) weeds & brush, the only tools that "we" had were the chainsaws that I have in the bed of my truck. I still haven't come to a rational reason WHY this happened, but somehow with me operating MY saw, while I was cutting through one of those very thick pieces (& within just a few minutes of me putting a NICE & me personally hand sharpening on the chain, it caught his chanlink fence, while the tip of the bar was still in the bush! I'm suddenly like 🤬, you've got to be kidding. I think that the big guy, wherever he is at THAT particular moment, has the same kind of humor as the person that strange stuff happens to. No one was hurt, just my pride, time invested in re-creating my edge & and a little of the fence.
I got real close, yesterday, to a dumb thing.
I was replacing my mailbox post and was too lazy to dig, by hand, a much larger hole than the hole opened from the old post. So the backhoe is out and working, my daughter is instructed to stick a shovel in the hole so I can see how deep it is and to look for wires.
Now, I can see where the phone lines run and it's about three feet farther away from the road than where I am, so I assume I'm good. I'm also digging from my driveway across the street, so hoeing towards the edge of the street. I take a few small, gentle scoops, no trouble, she measures and finds the spot where it looks good, and says "I see wires!" Uh oh... I hop down and look in the hole and sure enough, about 6 inches from the edge of the road and maybe a foot down is conduit that is about a half inch around, maybe a little bigger, that has a bend from where I moved it with the backhoe but didn't break it.
Shew. Hopefully I won't mess around with any more of this edge-of-the-property junk any more, and realistically I think I could have just as easily stuck a shovel blade through it.
At the end of the driveway of my previous home, they buried fiber optic communication trunk. If you break it, they would replace the entire length from one repeater to next, which could be several to 10's of miles. You were responsible (home owner or contractor) for entire cost if you did not call dig safe first, and have the locations marked.
Sometimes I think dig safe is not exactly sure where the cable is, as there is no electrical current to detect.
JJ
When I had a new well put in a few years ago, I had dig rite come out and mark the locations. He painted a line thru my front yard and I told him there was nothing there. He said, yes it is thats your phone line. Now, I built the house and was involved in everything and I knew the phone line wasn't over there, but Im not the professional. Well guy avoided all the paint markings while digging with the backhoe to run the water line. What do you know, he digs right thru my phone line where I knew it was. Dig rite guy showed up about an hour later and couldn't believe it. At least the repair bill was not on me or my well guy.
I mentioned this elsewhere, but just to get the record straight, yesterday I finally managed to put a chain on my saw backwards. First (only?) time in my life. I will stop laughing at the rest of you now.
AT least I knew what I did the second I touched it to wood. ;D
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on May 04, 2021, 08:09:35 AM
I mentioned this elsewhere, but just to get the record straight, yesterday I finally managed to put a chain on my saw backwards. First (only?) time in my life. I will stop laughing at the rest of you now.
AT least I knew what I did the second I touched it to wood. ;D
Its amazing how it doesn't look at all out of the ordinary until its chain to wood time LOL :D
You can invert and do the same thing with your sawmill band - or so I have heard. I heard about a new sawyer who did that twice and even sent them back to WM and received replacement blades under warranty. I guess when he called the customer service guru never thought anybody could miss something so obvious. I sure wish I could remember who that guy was. ::)
I hauled some logs in to be milled up for a Cab driver who drove a Cab in Boston.
He came over with his chain saw and he told me he just had his "Blade" sharpened. As he was putting it on his saw here in my sawmill yard.
He then tried to cut some of his logs to shorter lengths, as I wall milling nearby. I watched the cloud of blue smoke pouring off his bar, and walked over to see what was going one. I noticed he had put the chain on backwards.
I asked him if the would get mad at me if I told him he put the chain on backwards. He said no. I said: "you put the chain on backwards!" :D
Jim Rogers
There is a big fiber optic cable running through my place in the pasture. If you do any digging that direction they come and watch you dig.
Reversed saw chains, sawing into parts of the mill, flipped bands.....gas mix into the bar oil fill. Among others.... two days ago i managed to back into a board sticking out over the front of the hay rack with a nail sticking out the end, it almost cleared the tire.... didn't damage the tire as I saw it quick enough and got stopped just kissed it... "That was dumb" ran through my head... My wife wanted to mow there and asked if I could move it "quick"....didn't take the time to move it first...
When I worked construction we were told it could be tens of thousands of dollars PER MINUTE that you'd be charged if a fiber optic line was cut. And reconnecting the line could be many hours, as each individual strand had to be carefully fused together. We had one road job where a line was snagged with the bulldozer, but was determined the locator company mark was off, so they took the blame. Though either way, utility markings can have a margin of error and can be 2' from either side of the line, so use caution. Anything with buried high voltage lines or gas mains they tend to call in hydro-vac trucks (also called "pot-holing") when they get close to the paint markings. These use a water jet and vacuum hose to expose the utilities and does not damage the line.
My brother sells/builds buildings. Last fall they had plans made and permits were filled out and approved. They built the building and finishing up this week. They pretty much only need to dig the detention pond. Well at&t came through in the winter and put in two 4" fiber optic lines in private property right through the detention pond dig site. He has tried to get at&t to come and either move or figure out what they want him to do. Two people from at&t said to just dig them up and then whey will send someone out. Was sent to a third person and waited for 45 minutes before he was "disconnected" and was never called back. Someone is going to have a bad day soon.
Yeah, the fiber lines are no joke. I'm pretty sure that isn't what mine was but I'm glad I didn't find out. It sucks that we live in the future but still can't tell where stuff is buried 3 feet underground very well...
@offrink (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42920) I don't think I'd risk it on that one. Maybe if I got a recording of the phone call where the guy says "yeah, this is Bob Jones of AT&T Unit 5549393, go ahead and dig up the lines." But still probably not. Seems like digging in a minefield.
Quote from: offrink on May 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PMtwo 4" fiber optic lines
I am quite sure that this is a typo because the largest copper conductor cables that we used was 26 gauge 2400 pair and it was 2.9"outside diameter.
In today's world presently the largest fiber optic cable commonly used is 864 fibers and it is ~¾" in diameter.
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Quote from: Magicman on May 04, 2021, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: offrink on May 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PMtwo 4" fiber optic lines
I am quite sure that this is a typo because the largest copper conductor cables that we used was 26 gauge 2400 pair and it was 2.9"outside diameter.
In today's world presently the largest fiber optic cable commonly used is 864 fibers and it is ~¾" in diameter.
The largest available has 3456 fibers in a single cable, AccuTube+ RR Cable offers exceptional carrying capacity for high-growth, high-bandwidth applications. Optimized to help users achieve easy and cost-effective mass fusion splicing, this ultra-high-density cable helps to simplify installation and save on labor costs. In addition, this cable's significantly greater fiber density offers the ability to expand the capacity of existing pathways and allows the use of smaller, lower-cost duct systems. For example, the 1728 fiber count cables have the ability to be routed in existing 1 1/4-inch pathways, while the 3456 fiber count cables are suited for 2-inch pathways.
Fiber Optic Cable (https://beldencables-emea.com/en/products/cable_basics/fiber-optic-cable/index.phtml)
I sure hope you're right. They were marked as fiber optic and were exposed by hand. I am just going by what I was told. And yes he got an email verification that he told them there were lines on private property that needed to be excavated.
Quote from: offrink on May 04, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
My brother sells/builds buildings. Last fall they had plans made and permits were filled out and approved. They built the building and finishing up this week. They pretty much only need to dig the detention pond. Well at&t came through in the winter and put in two 4" fiber optic lines in private property right through the detention pond dig site. He has tried to get at&t to come and either move or figure out what they want him to do. Two people from at&t said to just dig them up and then whey will send someone out. Was sent to a third person and waited for 45 minutes before he was "disconnected" and was never called back. Someone is going to have a bad day soon.
If that property recently changed hands there's a good chance at&t purchased a ROW from the previous owner and the new owner doesn't know it.
Good point on the easement. Not likely they would put them there otherwise. Possible they made a mistake, but less likely. Normally would be recorded and listed on the title search results.
That could be conduit you're looking at. All the fo trunk cables around here are in flexible conduit. They ran-the conduit then came back and put in the fo cable sometime later. Interesting process they used. No trenching. Dug a hole every 25 ft or so and than ran the conduit between holes using some sort of air driven pulse thing. Somehow it was no problem tunneling blind between the holes. Had to be some sort of orientation involved. Wish I'd gotten a closer look, but not really a good spectator sport with the big compressor running.
Quote from: btulloh on May 04, 2021, 04:01:31 PM
Good point on the easement. Not likely they would put them there otherwise. Possible they made a mistake, but less likely. Normally would be recorded and listed on the title search results.
That could be conduit you're looking at. All the fo trunk cables around here are in flexible conduit. They ran-the conduit then came back and put in the fo cable sometime later. Interesting process they used. No trenching. Dug a hole every 25 ft or so and than ran the conduit between holes using some sort of air driven pulse thing. Somehow it was no problem tunneling blind between the holes. Had to be some sort of orientation involved. Wish I'd gotten a closer look, but not really a good spectator sport with the big compressor running.
That's the way they did the power line and cable line to my house. They put a sending unit in the far hole and the mole will bore to the sending unit, power by air compressor. I think the mole also pulls the wire(s).
Jim Rogers
I'm just glad to know they've been able to train moles to be productive and contribute to society instead of just ruining my yard.
Reminds me of a story my aunty told me years ago...
Seems 3 moles were digging a tunnel into the farmhouse kitchen. First one yells, were getting close, I smell honey! Second one yells were getting closer, I smell sugar! Third one yells, we're really close! I smell molasses! ;D
I buy couple of mole harpoon traps, but have never killed any moles with them yet, other than myself pinching my thumb testing the trigger out !OUCH! xyg! should have posted the injury here
smiley_carpenter_hit_thumb.
Too many dry wells/tunnels after winter, trapping after mr/mrs mole has moved to next juicy grub farm I think.
JJ
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on May 04, 2021, 04:11:16 PM
That's the way they did the power line and cable line to my house. They put a sending unit in the far hole and the mole will bore to the sending unit, power by air compressor. I think the mole also pulls the wire(s).
Jim Rogers
They have installed new fibre and replaced the water main down our street over the last couple of years with direction boring.
Interesting to watch as the first crew come along and mark all the other services, I assume with ground penetrating radar or ultrasound? Different paint on the footpath / lawn / road to show what's there, along with it's depth. So they were dodging water, gas, copper phone and sewerage lines.
Then they dig a small hole at each drop point, and push the bore to the next one. I think they then drag the conduit or pipe back with the drill? The drill is fully steerable, and when they use it another guy is walking along above the drill tip with some sort of detector. He signals the operator, left /right / up / down to avoid other services. Big compressor truck then blew the fibres or their draw wire down the conduit. Then they had a mini-me walk behind drill to run the individual fibre drops from the main conduit, under the lawn / fence / footpath up to each house.
It seems about 99% accurate. They did hit someone's water pipe up the street, and a gas pipe over the other side of town. But not too much carnage for over 1,000 houses.
When they mark the streets around here prior to boring, it looks like a full fledged Star Wars battle with the crazy symbols they use. They make orange diamonds with vertical bars on each side - looks like dozens of Tye Fighters flying all over the streets. :D
Don't worry (to much) about putting the chain on backwards guys. If you've ran a chainsaw enough, IT'S happened!
I've done it, twice that I can immediately think of. Once when I had NO idea how to sharpen and once recently when I did. The first time I was just dogging in and was cutting powering (forcing) my way through. The second time I noticed IMMEDIATELY. I don't try to power the chainsaw through any more and I noticed REALLY quickly that it wasn't "sharp". I made a really quick inspection and saw what the problem was. What a boneheaded move. BUT guys, it does happen. I have developed a good habit of putting my bar oil in first so that I never run out, BUT I did manage once to somehow ::) put in fuel mix in their instead. I caught it when I started to put fuel in and I realized "where is my fuel?". That's when I realized, hey dingleberry, you just put this now found mix in the wrong place. It happens. None of us like to admit it, but that's the way it goes.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on May 04, 2021, 08:09:35 AM
I mentioned this elsewhere, but just to get the record straight, yesterday I finally managed to put a chain on my saw backwards. First (only?) time in my life. I will stop laughing at the rest of you now.
AT least I knew what I did the second I touched it to wood. ;D
Did that one not too long back for the first time also ;D. I knew immediately what I had done, I just stopped and laughed at myself :D
Quote from: Tacotodd on May 05, 2021, 03:32:28 AM
Don't worry (to much) about putting the chain on backwards guys. If you've ran a chainsaw enough, IT'S happened!
I've done it, twice that I can immediately think of. Once when I had NO idea how to sharpen and once recently when I did. The first time I was just dogging in and was cutting powering (forcing) my way through. The second time I noticed IMMEDIATELY. I don't try to power the chainsaw through any more and I noticed REALLY quickly that it wasn't "sharp". I made a really quick inspection and saw what the problem was. What a boneheaded move. BUT guys, it does happen. I have developed a good habit of putting my bar oil in first so that I never run out, BUT I did manage once to somehow ::) put in fuel mix in their instead. I caught it when I started to put fuel in and I realized "where is my fuel?". That's when I realized, hey dingleberry, you just put this now found mix in the wrong place. It happens. None of us like to admit it, but that's the way it goes.
Honestly if I half to "power a chainsaw" through any cut it just puts me in the sourest mood, I'd rather not get any work done. That super satisfying feeling after a fresh sharpen and sink the bar into the wood like butter and she just PULLS you into the log, ahhh no better feeling than that, always a audible "she ADMIN LANGUAGE EDIT cuts" from me and a smile.
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on May 04, 2021, 09:22:35 AM
I hauled some logs in to be milled up for a Cab driver who drove a Cab in Boston.
He came over with his chain saw and he told me he just had his "Blade" sharpened. As he was putting it on his saw here in my sawmill yard.
He then tried to cut some of his logs to shorter lengths, as I wall milling nearby. I watched the cloud of blue smoke pouring off his bar, and walked over to see what was going one. I noticed he had put the chain on backwards.
I asked him if the would get mad at me if I told him he put the chain on backwards. He said no. I said: "you put the chain on backwards!" :D
Jim Rogers
Drives me nuts hearing "blade" :D
"Keep the blade sharp" I have also heard? :D ;D :)
Not a blade, it's a chain!
Maybe the fella has a chainsword? :D :D :D That would most likely have a blade, right?
That’s what I was picturing :D a power head with a old sword blade coming from it
HK, you just have to remember that I was brand new to the world of chainsaws and it's all that I had ever seen done. Since then, (now that I can file a chain like mad) people try to use a chain that I've filed and they are like, man, what did you do to make my saw wake up and cut like that? My response is self evident!
Doing that keeps me in the shade when it's hot outside, and in the sun when it's cold 😁 Don't tell anybody, I might actually have to work! After all, I'm really starting to like doing it! 🤫
Quote from: Tacotodd on May 05, 2021, 01:35:41 PM
HK, you just have to remember that I was brand new to the world of chainsaws and it's all that I had ever seen done. Since then, (now that I can file a chain like mad) people try to use a chain that I've filed and they are like, man, what did you do to make my saw wake up and cut like that? My response is self evident!
Doing that keeps me in the shade when it's hot outside, and in the sun when it's cold 😁 Don't tell anybody, I might actually have to work! After all, I'm really starting to like doing it! 🤫
Will someone nearby kindly stop in and take his temperature.
GAB
@GAB (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=18738), I never said it was the smartest thing to do. But with all the meds that my Drs have me on, it's probably for the best.
BUT, I DO like to run run a chainsaw!
need a chain-syringe to help get the world vaccinated. lol do bore cuts with a needle bar. :o
One customer intentionally put his chain on backwards because he said that he would be cutting the logs from the underside. I walked around to the other side of the truck so that he could not see me laughing.
Quote from: Magicman on May 05, 2021, 05:00:17 PM
One customer intentionally put his chain on backwards because he said that he would be cutting the logs from the underside.
It might have been kinder of you if you have just explained that all he has to do for underside cutting is step around to the other side of the log. :D :D :D ;D ;D
you guys make this so hard, just roll the log over 180° then reverse the chain and stand on the other side... at night! ;)
Doc,
I can tell you are the guy who walks up to hot, tired, disgusted driver with a flat tire and tells him "Its only flat on one side. Just drive on the other side." ::)
Quote from: doc henderson on May 05, 2021, 05:50:10 PM
you guys make this so hard, just roll the log over 180° then reverse the chain and stand on the other side... at night! ;)
With all due respect to your education, wisdom, youth, and experience Doc, I think you have that wrong, if he turns the log 180° then the top is on the bottom and you have to turn the saw upside down. I think it you flip it end for end you should have no problem upcutting.
Howard, if I came up on that driver with the flat I think I would just ask "watcha got there, a flat tire?" This would allow him to vent all over me with witty retorts thus alleviating his stress. :)
Well it seems I haven't done anything dumb since way back on Monday. :D I wasn't going to share this, but today we have a chiro appointment so I am killing some time this morning, not wanting to work up a sweat.
Anyway, last week I was cutting at a client's place and lost my good folding belt knife somewhere in the cutting area. I was really bummed, it was a good knife. I figure my felling belt rode up and lifted it off my pants belt someplace. On my next return visit, I brought my meatal detector and swept all the areas I had cut and bucked, but no joy. I'm really missing that knife. I have others but not near as easy to use as that one was. Here is the dumb part:
I was back cutting again on Monday and had one of my other knives on my belt again. I did NOT take it off or move it when I put my felling belt on, but at one point during the morning I did use it. When I had that issue with the pinched bar I took the felling belt off while working on the saw. When I put the belt back on the get to work again, I noticed the knife was missing. So between the time I had used it and the time I missed it was only about an hours and I knew precisely where I had worked and walked. I grabbed the metal detector (still in the truck box) with high confidence, but try as I might I could NOT find this knife. It wasn't a really good one, but I am going to run out of working knives soon at this rate. I was frustrated to all get out. I went back to work and had that ash go sideways on me and called it a day when the rain started.
The next day it was raining anyway and I went through my gear to clean, sharpen, and take care of things, along with the saw maintenance. When I pulled my felling belt out of the box I happened to look down into the axe scabbard and saw this:
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You would think I would have noticed this:
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But apparently not. :D So picture this, here I am stopped over with a metal detector sweeping the ground over a 1/4 acre area trying to find this knife while all the time it is in the scabbard on my belt hanging behind my butt. And I was wondering why my ax wasn't sitting right in the pocket, but ignored it. I figure when I took the belt off to fix the saw bar it must have slid it up off my pants belt and fell into the pocket. So I have the cheap knife but still can't find the good one, but I keep looking. Maybe as we drag out logs it will pop up out of the duff.
I've got to come up with a different plan for knife storage while felling. I won't be without it, but I am running out of workable spares, I go through a few of these a year as hinges give up, belt clips break and other stuff, that is, until I got the good one and that has lasted.
Knives with the clips are handy to have as we all know. Its inconvenient to put your hand all the way down in your pants pocket to retrieve a knife when you need it. On more than one occasion I have been missing my knife that was clipped to the inside of my pocket. Also on more than one occasion I have found my knife perfectly clipped to my truck seat belt. Did you look there?
Yup, and behind and under the seats, the couch at home, the bedroom floor, and all over the dang place. Still looking. ;D
Stop looking and it will show up!!! Worked for the other knife. ;D
Quote from: thecfarm on May 09, 2021, 05:35:07 AM
Stop looking and it will show up!!! Worked for the other knife. ;D
Or go looking for something else and you'll find it in stead. Also, buy a new one and the old one will show up.
Jim Rogers
I was on a call as I was driving back from town and I drove right by my business partner that had broke down in her car. She tried calling my but I couldn't break free from the call right away. When we finally connected, I turned around and went back for her. I thought about what I was going to say when I got there ( I knew I was gonna get grief) and remembered something I had recently seem.
I got there, she got in the truck and said she couldn't believe I drove right by. She was standing by her car waving at me. I said "I don't think you should be upset with me for driving by, because I KNOW you've been contacted recently about your car's extended warranty". ;D
Not bad, boonesyard. Not bad.
Did she buy it?
Quote from: Andries on May 09, 2021, 10:15:18 AM
Not bad, boonesyard. Not bad.
Did she buy it?
I think a better question may be "When do you get the bandages off?" :D ;D
I can picture an icy stare. ;D
At least he was driving or she'd probably done some damage!
Creative but not sure if it was smart.
Even my wife thought that it was funny! I just hope that that's a joke, or you might be end up in a "hostile" work environment.
She did not buy it, but I did get a laugh out of her so it smoothed it out a little bit.
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on May 09, 2021, 08:04:57 AMOr go looking for something else and you'll find it in stead. Also, buy a new one and the old one will show up. Jim Rogers
Long story short lost my phone Friday cancelled the sim card Friday night ,bought a new phone Saturday. Sunday morning Rhonda and I are sitting on the couch, Abigail my 18 month old grand daughter walks over and hands me the lost phone , so Rhonda got the new phone because I like my phone and it takes me forever to learn anything new.
Another year or so and she'll be able to program your phone for you! ;D
Got the call from the tree service just before dark last evening that they could be here in the morning to take down the Maple that is hanging over the shop. Not that big but way beyond my not dropping it on the roof. So, in my haste to move the horse trailer that was parked in the work area I hooked up the truck and took off. Forgot to disconnect the power cord to the trailer (brand new one last week). Ripped it off the trailer and trashed the end.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45188/IMG_0249.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1621000102)
Quote from: Rhodemont on May 14, 2021, 09:57:23 AM
Got the call from the tree service just before dark last evening that they could be here in the morning to take down the Maple that is hanging over the shop. Not that big but way beyond my not dropping it on the roof. So, in my haste to move the horse trailer that was parked in the work area I hooked up the truck and took off. Forgot to disconnect the power cord to the trailer (brand new one last week). Ripped it off the trailer and trashed the end.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45188/IMG_0249.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1621000102)
The phrase haste makes waste was coined many years ago. However if you wish to accentuate it over and over go ahead and be my guest. Before I move things I like to take a walk around said equipment and see if I forgot or missed something. Frequently avoids hours of unproductive work, or opportunities to get reaquinted with what few tools I have.
GAB
Back before cell phones a friend was on his way home from his teaching job and the truck broke down. His wife who is a nurse was going to be coming by in a bit so no worries. Now she had pulled a long set of shifts and was driving home 2 hours from the hospital. He see's her coming, waves his hands, then arms, then jumping up and down in the middle of the road behind her. He said he could see the glazed stare, she was heading home on fumes, she never saw him :D.
It was one of those days at work. I ruin a pair of shoes a year usually with trauma. today was one of those days. placed and order for a new pair, and the last time was June 20, 2020. I always have one backup pair of leather shoes.
Sorry Doc, that ain't good. I don't think its dumb though, just part of the job. I do recall a job or two where I had to strip down to my skivvies (and change) then red bag the clothes before driving home. Many more times I would throw my gear in the back of the truck and hang it on the fence and hose it down, then hang it in the shop to dry. We didn't have a washer in the firehouse then. Hydrogen peroxide does a great job of taking out the blood, just soak it in a tub for a while.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on May 15, 2021, 06:19:44 AM
Sorry Doc, that ain't good. I don't think its dumb though, just part of the job. I do recall a job or two where I had to strip down to my skivvies (and change) then red bag the clothes before driving home. Many more times I would throw my gear in the back of the truck and hang it on the fence and hose it down, then hang it in the shop to dry. We didn't have a washer in the firehouse then. Hydrogen peroxide does a great job of taking out the blood, just soak it in a tub for a while.
Hosing down everyone's bunker gear in the driveway of the firehouse as a probie....don't miss those days! Probably still isn't a washing machine in that firehouse... :(
Yeah, in my early days we never cleaned our gear. If we did it was just a quick hose down. Now we put our gear in the extractor after every fire and get out our spare gear. Trying to cut down on the risk of cancer. Back in the day we couldnt afford extractors or a spare set of turnout gear. Cancer costs a lot more.
yes soot and smoke from fire has carcinogens, just like that inhaled in cigarettes'. The chimney sweeps would employ orphan boys back in Victorian England. they would be small enough to get inside a chimney. many of them got cancer, covered in soot head to toe day in and day out.
Chimney sweeps' carcinoma - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_sweeps%27_carcinoma)
A few years ago I had a really nasty calving ended up soaked to the skin smelling really foul... I wasn't that far from home so I stripped down to my boxers and threw the dirty clothes in the back intending to stop by the house and shower quick before returning to the clinic. It was only six or seven miles back. About two miles from the house I met of course the township guy maintaining the road. Got a really funny look from the road grader operator...... ::)
Just cruzin in the country in boxers 😂
Well I had my boots on. ;D
That's something that I'm prone to (be) do(ing). :o And I AIN'T pretty.
Ya carrying a bull calf over your shoulders back to the barn can be fun :o :( >:( .
Quote from: Nebraska on May 16, 2021, 05:03:44 PM
A few years ago I had a really nasty calving ended up soaked to the skin smelling really foul... I wasn't that far from home so I stripped down to my boxers and threw the dirty clothes in the back intending to stop by the house and shower quick before returning to the clinic. It was only six or seven miles back. About two miles from the house I met of course the township guy maintaining the road. Got a really funny look from the road grader operator...... ::)
I had a similar situation years back on an ugly EMS call at around 3am. No bunkers on for that one, so I hosed off my boots and I threw a plastic tarp over the drivers seat in my truck and drove home and tossed the tarp. I stood outside the door and stripped down and left the clothes in a pile. I would have stripped before driving home, but it was February.
I was pretty glad the wife and kids were sound asleep because I really didn't feel like explaining. ;D Only the dog greeted me, but she did give me a weird look.
Several years back I had to open the bombay doors under the skidder for something that wasn't right. Fixed whatever it was, closed the doors up and proceeded to climb back into the cab when I realized my clothes were crawling, all of them. Seems I had laid in a seed tick nest the whole time and they were not coming off. So I stripped to nothing, threw the clothes in a pile away from the nest and hosed them with deet. Knew I had a change back in the truck so I jumped back into the cab and headed for the truck, with nothing but my birthday suit on, and a cracked, vinyl skidder seat.
Made it about half way across the opening to the truck and as luck would have it, there was someone parked by my truck waiting to talk to me. Dropped the skid of logs right there in the path, and turned around for the woods - I am sure they were scratching their head wondering what I was doing but I was not getting any closer to whoever that was until my status changed. Waited a while and made a return trip eventually.
Quote from: Ed_K on May 17, 2021, 08:09:26 AM
Ya carrying a bull calf over your shoulders back to the barn can be fun :o :( >:( .
Were you able to save your socks?
GAB
Managed to whack the very tip of my thumb off today working calves. About an 1/8 in thick slice took a little nail with it.. always stay focused running sharp instruments. ::)
what would you do if someone was trying to cut yours off. fight. glad you are ok.
:) the calf was well restrained by my help, there was no excuse of kicking etc , I just was going too fast..
@GAB (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=18738), nope and my rubber boots got a washing on the inside too ;D .
@Ed_K (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=257) :
I've never done it so I can't speak from experience, however I remember my dad saying if he had to carry a calf to the barn he preferred it to be a heifer.
GAB
Quote from: Southside on May 17, 2021, 08:36:46 AM
Several years back I had to open the bombay doors under the skidder for something that wasn't right. Fixed whatever it was, closed the doors up and proceeded to climb back into the cab when I realized my clothes were crawling, all of them. Seems I had laid in a seed tick nest the whole time and they were not coming off. So I stripped to nothing, threw the clothes in a pile away from the nest and hosed them with deet. Knew I had a change back in the truck so I jumped back into the cab and headed for the truck, with nothing but my birthday suit on, and a cracked, vinyl skidder seat.
Made it about half way across the opening to the truck and as luck would have it, there was someone parked by my truck waiting to talk to me. Dropped the skid of logs right there in the path, and turned around for the woods - I am sure they were scratching their head wondering what I was doing but I was not getting any closer to whoever that was until my status changed. Waited a while and made a return trip eventually.
All my life I have been going into the woods and never have had a encountered a "tick nest", how many are we talking? I'd lose my collective stuff if I had a nest on me
Hundreds if I were to throw out a guess, I can recall finding two while turkey hunting over the years....
Put a fat "dog" tick in a jar and forget about it. Over a period of time it will split open revealing hundreds of eggs. These eggs will ultimately hatch into "seed" ticks.
I have had my britches legs covered almost black with seed ticks. We would break off a Cedar or Pine branch and flail them off while dancing a jig. The jig didn't do any good.....but it helped.
Quote from: Magicman on May 22, 2021, 09:36:25 PM
Put a fat "dog" tick in a jar and forget about it. Over a period of time it will split open revealing hundreds of eggs. These eggs will ultimately hatch into "seed" ticks.
I have had my britches legs covered almost black with seed ticks. We would break off a Cedar or Pine branch and flail them off while dancing a jig. The jig didn't do any good.....but it helped.
If tha THats the dermacenter tick then those are the ones I see most frequent. Oh boy.
When I get a tick or several I put them in a small piece of tin foil that traps them then hold the side of tinfoil and put lighter under and pop and in trash
Quote from: Walnut Beast on May 23, 2021, 07:02:41 AM
When I get a tick or several I put them in a small piece of tin foil that traps them then hold the side of tinfoil and put lighter under and pop and in trash
I just burn them no tinfoil. They will start sizzling then they will pop or explode. It's crazy how fast they can move once you put a flame to one
😂😂 I like to keep things clean
Quote from: Walnut Beast on May 23, 2021, 07:36:40 AM
😂😂 I like to keep things clean
Usually this happens in my truck after working in the woods. It's already filled with wood chips sawdust mud anyway ;D
Quote from: Southside on May 17, 2021, 08:36:46 AM
Several years back I had to open the bombay doors under the skidder for something that wasn't right. Fixed whatever it was, closed the doors up and proceeded to climb back into the cab when I realized my clothes were crawling, all of them. Seems I had laid in a seed tick nest the whole time and they were not coming off. So I stripped to nothing, threw the clothes in a pile away from the nest and hosed them with deet. Knew I had a change back in the truck so I jumped back into the cab and headed for the truck, with nothing but my birthday suit on, and a cracked, vinyl skidder seat.
Made it about half way across the opening to the truck and as luck would have it, there was someone parked by my truck waiting to talk to me. Dropped the skid of logs right there in the path, and turned around for the woods - I am sure they were scratching their head wondering what I was doing but I was not getting any closer to whoever that was until my status changed. Waited a while and made a return trip eventually.
Never hose down your neither regions with deer spray and put clothes on top. It gets a little warm down there. Learned the hard way fishing in a deep cold stream in waders.
Quote from: Magicman on May 22, 2021, 09:36:25 PM
I have had my britches legs covered almost black with seed ticks. We would break off a Cedar or Pine branch and flail them off while dancing a jig. The jig didn't do any good.....but it helped.
I would like to see a video of that! ;D 8)
Doug in SW IA
dancing-jack
Itchy Tick jig?
Well, at least no one got hurt. I picked up this Roust-a-bout 1,500 lb lift from an auction site for 10cent on the dollar.
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Came with the caster wheels but no base. Since the base would cost $1,200 to buy, I made this one. (upside down for painting)
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I had some Rustoleum yellow paint and did a first coat on both the wheel base and this trailer draw bar (that was previously all rust).
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It was a darker yellow that didn't match the lift and I used it all up. So, off to HD to get another can. They have 4 shelves of Rustoleum quarts. My old yellow with a lighter yellow that matches the lift on the shelf above - so I got that. Noticed it was a little thicker but that should cover better. Got all done and put a little thinner in a can to wash out the brush. Hmmm, wouldn't wash the paint out - that's weird. Must be some new fangeled formula. Looked at the can - Latex - DOOOH!
I'm sure no one else has ever done this. I fired up the mill to mill some cedar. After I was cutting for a while it occurred to me that the engine wasn't running real well. I kept going knowing that it wasn't anything serious. I shut down the motor while I was turning the log to finish up the log. When I went to start the motor back up I realized that it had been on full choke the whole time I was cutting. Needless to say it ran much better after that.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 23, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
I'm sure no one else has ever done this. I fired up the mill to mill some cedar. After I was cutting for a while it occurred to me that the engine wasn't running real well. I kept going knowing that it wasn't anything serious. I shut down the motor while I was turning the log to finish up the log. When I went to start the motor back up I realized that it had been on full choke the whole time I was cutting. Needless to say it ran much better after that.
Nope never done that while milling cedar. Never even milled cedar (yet). It is 'possible' that I have done it while milling RO, WO, Ash, and Maple, but I can't
really recall. ;D
:) I can't Imagine how that happens......
Drove about 40 minutes Saturday and finished a 7,700 bdft angry ash job. Sawed about 9 hours the moved my saw about 8 miles for Sunday. Drove to Sundays job and was setting up the saw,.... Wait for it,.... The KEYS for the sawmill are on my kitchen counter smiley_furious Doh!move_it40 minutes back home to get them. 40 minutes back to saw. I have a place in my truck for the keys but in my tired state forgot to leave them in the truck. But we did finish that angry ash job. 10,500 bdft. I have been back and forth between the two jobs for a number of weekends. Glad to have them done.
mh
If I did that, I would go to the hardware store and have about 10 keys cut. They would be stashed all over creation. One of them would be in a very well hidden place on the sawmill. Run a screw through the keyhole and screw it up underneath or something. That way if it is found they have to work to get it off.
I remember my bil doing that. He got the boat in the water and realized the keys were on the kitchen counter. He drove two hours each way so he wouldn't have to take the dash apart and hot wire it. Very unhappy with himself.
Sometime last year my son who likes to play with things he shouldn't took the keys out of my mill and lost them. I looked and looked, but couldnt find them. Then it occurred to me that my lawnmower has a Kohler engine. The keys from my mower worked just fine in my mill. A few days later I found my keys on the ground. Dad left his boat keys at home many years ago. He just went into the nearest Mercury dealer I think it was and they were able to match up some keys. Apparently theres only a handful of cuts for that motor. Luckily none of his compartments were locked.
I make a dozen or so plaques this time of year for graduation. I made one for a scribe names Savanna who finished nursing school and will be moving to OK. but it is spelled Savannah! so half the staff had signed the back so I planed off the front engraving after putting masking tape on the back as to not damage the notes and signatures. I sanded and re did the 1/8th in radius. and put it in the engraver with the best side at the top for her name. but that was the opposite as I did it before, so now the best wishes from the hospital and all the notes and signatures are upside down on the back. I already sprayed 3 coats of finish and it was perfect, so I decide it did not matter if you flipped it over you could turn it and read the names. after I slept on it, back through the planer it went, and I am finishing up the re re-engraving, and will get finish on today. take it to work for more signatures and her last day is the 28th. can you say OCD! :) OMG!
Doc, that sounds like me on a project. I just tell folks that the first three tries were "practice"!
mh
You got to be happy with your work.
So I just saw this a few minutes ago..
I was just holding a calf in a stock trailer and one of my technicians was running IV fluids to it. The Fed Ex ground truck comes whipping in, he opens up the back doors of the van and grabs the packages for our stop. He trots back outside and hops in his van and starts backing up. The calfs owner looks down at me and says, "I wonder if he realizes his back is still open ?" 🤔 We thought maybe he was backing up as to not block the door and sort some parcels. Nope, he keeps on going into the street then puts his van in drive. The rear doors swing open and the farmer trots towards him waving his arms and hollering just as packages start to fall out. Fed Ex guy notices and gets stopped. I think if he hadn't seem Glenn hollering and waving he would have strung more packages down the street.
My tech looks up at me and says "hmm he must be having a Monday too."
OK, I'll fess up. Yesterday I was running around with my buddy at his place cutting and chipping. We never shut the chipper down between locations as we were just putting along, we just dropped it to idle and the feed would drop out. We finished in one spot and my friend threw his 372 on the shelf in the chip chute. I said "are you sure you want to leave that there?" he says "sure, I do it all the time, we are just putting along'. So I shrug my shoulders because it's his gear after all. SO we bump over a rock pulling out of that spot and as I am standing/riding on the running board (no room in the cab with all his junk) I hang out to see if the saw is in the road behind it.....it is not, so I figure we are good, well we put put all the way over to the other end of his 80 acres and I step off and go to grab the saw before I throttle up the chipper....and there is no saw. So I figure we dropped it coming up that last little hill and tell him I am walking back for it, he says, 'probably the hill before that, and he drives the truck around, well he eventually caught and passed me without the saw in sight, so I let him go. He must have went nearly back to where we started because I could no longer even hear the truck, eventually he came back with it, he mumbled that it 'jumped out way back there'. Funny, it never fell out before.
I knew better, but it IS his gear. AT least it didn't bounce up into the feed rollers. ;D
That is what I waiting for. ;D
A long, long time ago, on one of my first mobile appointments, I left home with the mill key hanging in the barn. I was debating about calling my wife when the client said he had a lot of equipment with small engines and he ended up with a key that started my Kohler. Ordered two spares when I got home and haven't needed either one in 8 or 9 years.
I had to move a large farm tractor worth close to a quarter mil while on a service call but no key. I looked at the switch, it was the same as the one on a thousand dollar lawn tractor and I had one on my ring. ::) Blew my helpers mind.
Once I went about 120 miles with my Peterson 2 day job left it set up overnight so took out the key.
Spent a lot of time looking for it that night and next morning no luck.
Finally at job site again just started it with a small screwdriver for the key. Kohler CH750 30HP.
I used it years after that with no key and also sold it that way.
I have 2 keys stashed in my hydraulic box, if I forget the key at home, all I need to get one is the 9/16" wrench from the tool box which is always in the truck.
Of course, a crescent wrench or a pair of pliers would work in a pinch!
Quote from: sawguy21 on May 25, 2021, 12:23:58 AM
I had to move a large farm tractor worth close to a quarter mil while on a service call but no key. I looked at the switch, it was the same as the one on a thousand dollar lawn tractor and I had one on my ring. ::) Blew my helpers mind.
I pulled up on a logging job years ago and there was a '72 Nova sitting out by the highway. I drove on in to the job. I was in a '95 Chevy S-10 at the time. As I was getting ready to leave, the loader operator flagged me down. He had locked his keys in the car out by the highway. He said you are driving a Chevy......see if you can unlock my car. I thought to myself "Yeah Right". Just for kicks, I stopped at his car. I stuck my key in his locked door...it went in smoothly. I turned it and unlocked his door. Here are two vehicles 23 years apart that are keyed alike. ;D ;D
Wudman
I did that with my buddies 64 Impala, I had a 65 Olds. They weren't keyed alike but the keys and locks were worn, he wasn't amused.
In the early 80s there was a Datsun/ Nissan I believe it was the 310 model. If you used the wrong 310 key in the wrong 310 it would turn and start the car right up. The problem was that the key would not turn back off and come out!! We replaced a number of lock cylinders when I worked at the Nissan dealership.
mh
A lot of campers use the same key to open all the storage compartments. I have tried this numerous times with different campers and they all have the same key. The key to open the man door is different at least.
A buddy and I both had Nissan pick em ups, the keys would not start each others trucks but we could open each others doors.
I had pulled the key out of the skidsteer at work for the weekend, yup it was still safely on the counter last night ::)
Some years ago we had run the shuttle on the New River, leaving a car at the take out and running the boats and everyone up to the put in. After a fine day of floating we got to the take out and my wife's friend got that deer in the headlights look. "Ummm my keys are in your truck at the put in :D". Happily I saw some guys fishing and knew one of them. He threw me his keys and I made sure to fill his truck up on our way.
Had stuff stored in a U-Haul storage unit a long time ago.
I noticed that most of the units had U-Haul locks on them, and out of curiosity I tried my key on all of the 24 in our section and my key unlocked 8 of the units. :o
I did not open any of them, just checked the locks!
My most expensive "did something dumb" was when I broke the curl cylinders on my tractor by pushing around a log that was too big to lift. Today, I had another log that was too big to lift so I used my little skidding axle to move the log around. I lifted one end of the log so I could set the axle underneath. Then I disconnected the tongs and went to move to the other end of the log to lift it to be ready to move it like a trailer. I heard a whooshing sound that I immediately thought was the tractor. Instead I realized that the tongs had hooked the inside of one of my golf cart tires on the skidding axle. That is only costing me $10 to buy another tire/wheel at a golf cart dealer. He buys old carts and custom builds them into fancy, lifted carts. He sells the old wheels and tires.
Quote from: Resonator on May 04, 2021, 12:26:21 PM
When I worked construction we were told it could be tens of thousands of dollars PER MINUTE that you'd be charged if a fiber optic line was cut. And reconnecting the line could be many hours, as each individual strand had to be carefully fused together.
i hauled a flatbed load of fiber optic cable spools from NC back to alexandria tennesee. $320k value on the BOLs. way over our cargo coverage, most valuable thing i ever hauled. good paying job too.
Well it was an accident and you got it repaired cheap.
Today I did something that can only be defined as dumb, because I did it to myself, essentially on purpose, I just didn't know I was doing it to myself.
Lemme 'splain: I needed to sharpen my chainsaw, routine as rain, right? But I opened up my box to grab the file and guide and I grabbed the first file I saw, which was a new one I had just handled up and put in a simple clip on wedge pouch I added to the kit. (Yes, it was the right size, I know what you're thinking.) Well when I set that saw up and started filing, holy cow! In a split second I realized that I had been working way to hard with the previous file, which I can't remember when I started with it. I am just not used to wearing out files, at least not this fast. Holy cow, I had that chain slicked up in no time. I think folks throw out files way too soon, but in this case I guess I should have changed it out a lot sooner. I had bought a box of a dozen from Pherd a while back, so it's not like I needed to order them or anything. Geez, what a bozo I can be.
;D Amazing!
Seems there was a thread about cleaning files using vinegar. It removed metal and rust.
Quote from: samandothers on June 02, 2021, 08:50:24 PM
Seems there was a thread about cleaning files using vinegar. It removed metal and rust.
No rust on my files, they don't get a chance. ;D but I do have a file card I run over from time to time. Works great on flat files, on chainsaw files, it is tougher, but it works with persistence.
No, I just ran the file too long. Still knowing that....I ...just....can't... throw...it ....out. I have to be able to make something useful out of it. :D :D
It's going to make a decent nail of sorts 8)
2 files per chain for me, then they are toast, or at least too much fight for what it's worth(even though it can be done with a dull file). It's always a good feeling to use a fresh file, you can literally FEEL the teeth pulling the metal off each stroke, much more resistance. I more often than not end up hitting my
Hand on a cutter or something with a dull file as I'm pushing so hard to git that gullet.
Quote from: HemlockKing on June 03, 2021, 05:15:51 AM
2 files per chain for me, then they are toast, or at least too much fight for what it's worth(even though it can be done with a dull file). It's always a good feeling to use a fresh file, you can literally FEEL the teeth pulling the metal off each stroke, much more resistance. I more often than not end up hitting my
Hand on a cutter or something with a dull file as I'm pushing so hard to git that gullet.
What kind (brand) of files do you use? That seems like a lot. I get good life out of those Pferd's, but I guess I was trying to pull more than I should have. ;D
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Quote from: HemlockKing on June 03, 2021, 05:15:51 AM
2 files per chain for me, then they are toast, or at least too much fight for what it's worth(even though it can be done with a dull file). It's always a good feeling to use a fresh file, you can literally FEEL the teeth pulling the metal off each stroke, much more resistance. I more often than not end up hitting my
Hand on a cutter or something with a dull file as I'm pushing so hard to git that gullet.
What kind (brand) of files do you use? That seems like a lot. I get good life out of those Pferd's, but I guess I was trying to pull more than I should have. ;D
Stihl files recently, Oregon sometimes. A file is like 1.50$ so when they go a bit dull I just put them in the bin, more extra time than it's worth when I could already be sharpened up and back at er. I try to keep mine clean I use fine wire brushes and what not and give it the file a smack on something solid(a nono a machinist will say ;D)
I also run my chains until cutters start snapping off from being so filed back. So i stretch a chain more than probably your average fella. I'll even run one that has a cutter snapped off, once 2 or 3 go though, maybe I'll use it for cutting stumps up ;D
I use a narrow neck soda bottle full of WD-40 to swish my files. A swish for each side of cutters seems to extend the file's life. It's surprising how many filings end up at the bottom of the bottle over time.
Dale
Quote from: hersnsh#590 on June 03, 2021, 07:16:46 PM
I use a narrow neck soda bottle full of WD-40 to swish my files. A swish for each side of cutters seems to extend the file's life. It's surprising how many filings end up at the bottom of the bottle over time.
Dale
Thank you I will try that
Well Norway backs up to Sweden and old Swedes don't like to throw anything away....just sayin....
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When I worked construction we were told it could be tens of thousands of dollars PER MINUTE that you'd be charged if a fiber optic line was cut. And reconnecting the line could be many hours, as each individual strand had to be carefully fused together.
i hauled a flatbed load of fiber optic cable spools from NC back to alexandria tennesee. $320k value on the BOLs. way over our cargo coverage, most valuable thing i ever hauled. good paying job too.
I had a friend that pulled out of the Hanes pantyhose factory in Rockingham, NC years ago. He said that was the most valuable cargo he pulled. You can get several pair in a 50 foot box. He said he was north of $1 million with that pull.
Wud
Years ago I hauled MANY loads that were worth a million or more. Back when scrap metal was really high, we were warned to watch for high jackers, had no idea how much giant spools of copper wire were worth. :o
When I pulled refrigerated, frozen Pizza's were a high security, high dollar load also. Every day was a new adventure.
Went to build some sawhorses today using the air nailer. Joined some 1 1/2" legs together, shot a few nails, went to move it and it started coming apart. ???
Checked the gun, still had 2" nails in it. :D
Quote from: Resonator on June 08, 2021, 12:44:00 PM
Went to build some sawhorses today using the air nailer. Joined some 1 1/2" legs together, shot a few nails, went to move it and it started coming apart. ???
Checked the gun, still had 2" nails in it. :D
Oh how I hate when that happens. :D :D
It works better when the nails go into the wood.
Oh, they went in... by all of 1/2". ::)
I may possibly also tried shooting more nails to fix it, before checking the nail size. :-X
When we were building this house I grabbed a couple of guys to help. one was an "expert" framer and was really smoking the nails home, man he was a nail driving machine. After they had left I was walking around looking at the progress, yup, he was sinking 8's ::).
Quote from: Don P on June 09, 2021, 07:11:10 AM
When we were building this house I grabbed a couple of guys to help. one was an "expert" framer and was really smoking the nails home, man he was a nail driving machine. After they had left I was walking around looking at the progress, yup, he was sinking 8's ::).
Not many men can sink a nail in 2 strikes, Larry haun could certainly though
I remember working with my dad building houses when I was a kid. There were no air nailers around back then, at least not at that company back in the 80s. We drove all nails by hand and I remember being in awe of the guys driving nails in 2 or 3 strikes. I can do pretty well, but not as well as those guys who did it every day. They'd have a handful of nails in their hand and as they were driving one nail, they were using the other hand to line up another nail just in time for the next hammer swing to hit the next nail.
Since my dad is not a forum member, I will share his dumb thing for the day. Mom and dad are super lucky that the only thing that died today was their boat. They were fishing on Lake Taneycomo which is a tailwater behind Table Rock Lake in Branson MO. When they are running lots of water thru the dam, the lake is a very fast moving river. They will often drift in the current and fish and then motor back up to drift the same spot again. Well, today they started the motor to move back up stream and must have hit a rock or log on the bottom. The boat quickly got spun around in the current and then broadsided the bridge pier. Dad says the boat is totaled. He's had that boat in immaculate condition since he bought it new in 1997. It's a 17' Lund. Again, super lucky they didn't swamp and drown.
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Thankfully your Parents are OK. As for the boat, that scratch will buff out!!! ::)
Only a Lund will take a hit like that, and not be torn in pieces. I bet it still floats.
I have owned several Lunds and hulls are much thicker/rugged than most any other Al boat I have seen.
JJ
Wow, glad they're ok
Ouch @firefighter ontheside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921) ! It took me a minute to understand what I was looking at there but it's, like, a big side of boat! That sucks! I at first thought it was a bumper of something but then I understood. No good!
Man that sucks, been there and fished that a couple times. That Lund is still worth some money and may be worth the repair.
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Do I even need to say anything.
Trimguy. Not familiar with your mill I looked and didnt see anything bad. So, I quess you got away with it. :D
Trimguy,
I'm sure glad I never did anything like that. ::) Besides, everybody needs a long wedge or two laying around.
I talked to my dad this morning. He thinks the boat will be totalled. He will take it to the dealer on Monday and have the insurance adjuster come and look at it. It indeed still floats and wasn't even leaking. They are built tough. That boat has done a lot of fishing on rough water and was still very tight. Definitely some tough aluminum in the Lund boats and put together well.
@trimguy (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=47881) that looks a good doorstopper.
@trimguy (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=47881) I did that last week. My off bearer of the day just put it in the loader arms for triming. I pulled him aside and explained that he was to promptly put things like that in the slab pile, preferably a few slabs deep!!
mh
No damage to the mill, maybe a little to the ego. Maybe tule peak needs a stop for one of his doors.😁 it still was a good day, I got to play with the mill and I made 2- 2 x 14 x 24' that I needed (among other things) I was a little worried to start with because a had to do it without an extension. I didn't screw them up
FFOTS I saw this yesterday and it tore my heart out. Glad all are OK, that's the main thing. Lund makes such beautiful and strudy hulls and this is a testament to that I like Starcraft too, but the rivets system on Lunds seem to be bullet proof compared to starcraft (and I like starcrafts too, but have been in several that develop leaky rivets with hard use on strong waters).
I think that boat is salvagable for sure, but cost of repairs to make it like new will probably have it 'totaled' I think. Still if I could get my hands on that I surely would make it seaworthy, but it would never be 'pretty' again.
Just really glad your folks got through that OK.
Trimguy, all I can say is "let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. Dang toe boards, always in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Called my customer last night to confirm that I'd be showing up about 7:30 this morning. All seemed good. Then I rolled in at about 7:20 this morning and not a soul was stirring. I called to let them know that I was there and the lady said she would be right out. So, she shows up in her bath robe and socks and says, I thought you were coming next month. That's when I realized that I had put them in my calendar for June 10 instead of July 10 🙈🙈🙈 as they had made specific arrangements to mill on a Saturday since her husband works out of town during the week.
:D Now that is funny.
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Do I even need to say anything.
Now if you had two of those you could place them on the outside of the log loader arms and avoid that last hurrah on getting a log onto the loading arms. There are uses for those oops cuts.
GAB
@Crossroads (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33396) so what did you do with your day?
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on June 11, 2021, 08:16:42 AM
@Crossroads (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33396) so what did you do with your day?
Picked up supplies to change the oil in the wife's car and my truck. Picked up some mortar and did a little project at home to move a man door from under the eve of the shop. Went to a friends house, visited and drank coffee. Came home and moved dirt to a location where I'm going to build a cabin for the Woodmizer contest. Finally, I took my wife to an early anniversary dinner. But, on the way to dinner we picked up a 25# chunk of beef and a couple of summer sausage kits. I probably should have gone fishing, but these projects have been on my mind.
Sounds like a good day to not have a sawmill job. I just closed yesterday on the purchase of some land across the road from my house. It will be about 4.5 acres after we split it with the neighbor. Someday I will build a shop over there.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on June 11, 2021, 04:31:56 PM
Sounds like a good day to not have a sawmill job. I just closed yesterday on the purchase of some land across the road from my house. It will be about 4.5 acres after we split it with the neighbor. Someday I will build a shop over there.
HEY! Congratulations!!! That's a big deal and will be a huge benefit when you have the shop built (and also make for another good thread as we follow along). Best of luck with that addition!
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OK, now it's come around to my turn again. Today was an off day and I had some family issues on my mind that had me pretty angry and mad at the entire world. I didn't get much sleep last night and got up too early. Just an all around bad attitude on my part. So I got out in the shop to start rebuilding that 350 Husky all the while thinking about this problem and getting madder as time goes on. I pulled out the new parts and checked fit and finish, all looked good. I assembled the piston and ring, put the head gasket in place, stick the piston on the connecting rod, then nursed the cylinder over the piston and could get the piston almost in with the ring using my finger nails, but not quite. So I stopped and made a compression tool out of a plastic coffee can strip and a hose clamp. That worked fine but I could still not get the whole thing to slide in with gentle tapping with a soft mallet. After ten minutes of futzing with it, I finally took out the c-clips and knocked out the wrist pin because I could not pull the cylinder off. Now I could see what I was doing better. So well in fact that I could see clearly that I had put the ring in upside down and it was jamming up on the anti-rotation pin. I ruined the ring, did some minor damage to the piston groove and no harm to the cylinder. But the ring is trash. SO I make a call to Spike60 to see if he has a ring, and sure enough he does. So I added a visit to my chore list and picked it up along the route. As long as I was there, I also picked up some oil and filters my logger buddy needed, night as well make the drive worthwhile. It's good to have a local shop to compensate for my dumb moves. Boy did I feel stupid. I don't do this work very often and I should not have started on it with the mood and state of mind I was in. But that's no excuse.
Yeah, things tend to go downhill in a hurry at that point. ::)
Congratulations firefighter! I'd really like to buy the 16 acres that boarders our 20, but I simply don't have the money for today's prices 🙈 we got ours 3 years ago for $3400/acre now it would be north of 10k/acre. I'm afraid if I approach the the owner, I'll put ideas in his head and I'll end up with another Nieghbor. Yes, it was a good day to not have a milling job and it felt good to get some stuff done.
Thanks @Crossroads (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33396) . We had to pay 3700 per acre, which is really more than its worth in that area, but to keep it from selling to someone who might make it an eyesore was really priceless.
Thanks @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) I'm excited about it. We will move slowly with using it, but its really nice to know that we are in control of what happens over there. Never have to worry about someone moving in there. I think the first thing I will do is make an entrance into the property directly across from my driveway. If I put some rock in there I can use the entrance to pull into with my camper on and then be able to back straight across and into my driveway instead of backing off of the road and turning into the driveway. Sometimes it takes me 10 minutes to get the turn just right, especially depending which direction I'm coming from.
I bought back some of The Farm just for that reason.
I really don't make a good neighbor. Up in the morning making noise with something, tractor, sawmill, trimmer, mower, chainsaw, did I miss anything? ;D Than late at night, repeat.
I really have enough land I can go into the middle of it and never see the outside world. That said I can still hear chainsaws and excavators in the distance, both plots of land on each side of mine, are rock/dirt quarrys, since this is the only area in almost the whole of shelburne county with any good fill at all, of course they gotta truck it all out of here. They have a lot to go but once that dirt is gone its just barren low lying flat lands with no good drainage. I’ll be fixing up my property line path with new tags to make sure that scoop doesn’t touch an inch of my dirt. I’d still like to buy them someday . I’d probably just herbicide it all and try for blueberry fields.
Well, I was optimistic, but the dealer says the boat is beyond repair. They said the on top of the obvious damage in the picture, the whole boat is twisted several inches. I began looking for possible replacements days ago and it looks like we are going to get this one. Unfortunately the supply of used Lund boats in MO is almost nil, so I began looking in MN and WI and found several, but this one south of Minneapolis is what we are probably gonna get. Almost the same boat as before, but with 45 more horses under the hood. This is a 17' boat with a 115 Yamaha. Dad had to have another Yamaha. That made the search much more difficult. I found a lot of nice boats with Evinrudes, but dad wouldn't have it. Hard to blame him for that. I wasn't interested in a 2 stroke either. He also like this because it matches his F150 perfectly. I hope buying this boat sight unseen isn't something dumb.
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Quote from: firefighter ontheside on June 15, 2021, 08:47:20 AM
Well, I was optimistic, but the dealer says the boat is beyond repair. They said the on top of the obvious damage in the picture, the whole boat is twisted several inches. I began looking for possible replacements days ago and it looks like we are going to get this one. Unfortunately the supply of used Lund boats in MO is almost nil, so I began looking in MN and WI and found several, but this one south of Minneapolis is what we are probably gonna get. Almost the same boat as before, but with 45 more horses under the hood. This is a 17' boat with a 115 Yamaha. Dad had to have another Yamaha. That made the search much more difficult. I found a lot of nice boats with Evinrudes, but dad wouldn't have it. Hard to blame him for that. I wasn't interested in a 2 stroke either. He also like this because it matches his F150 perfectly. I hope buying this boat sight unseen isn't something dumb.
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I've flipped a lot of boats over 40 years, and have never seen anything like the price of used boat flesh right now. That's because of the new prices and availability, I know, but wow it's nuts. With that boat and motor combo, if it's in decent shape (from what I can tell from the limited photo) he should be fine.
I'm jealous! :D That would be gone in a heartbeat here, they are in short supply and priced accordingly.
With Lund, roller trailer is no issue. Some hull manufacturers will void the warranty if boat is put on trailer without full bunks.
Make sure the winch rope stays attached until the boat is in the water.. Nice looking boat.
JJ
We are hoping that with the market what it is the insurance check will be sized accordingly too. I have no experience with roller trailers, but I can see how it would put a lot more pressure in certain spots, but it doesn't surprise me that the LUnd would be fine with it. The boat looks from other pictures to be in fine shape. Looks like the owner doesn't take care of the carpet the way my dad does with his. Dad has red carpet and its probably easier to keep looking clean when a pike spills its blood.
Got an overdue air brake job. Dumb part is it is cammed over. How the hell do I remove the brake drum? torches?
BFH, or it's got a major lip on the drum.
On the big hammer part, hit squarely (avoid the studs) at 180 intervals and between studs. Sounds kinda counterintuitive I know, but it works. If it's determined that it's gotten worn to the point of having a big lip on it, it's past the "machine to" limit already, so torch away.
On the whack part, 4 or 5 GOOD ones at most. I've often done it in 3 and I'm not the best HARD shot.
Not having good luck on the boat situation. The guy selling the boat has been unreachable for the last 3 days. Dad was getting pretty annoyed. I called this morning and a woman answered. She said he is in the hospital and doesn't know when he will get out. I feel bad for him, but really disappointed about the boat.
My dumb stunt doesn't match some of yours but I'll 'fess up anyway. A few weeks ago I mislaid my keys. I knew they were here because I drove home and unlocked the door. Fortunately I have a spare set but no house key so couldn't lock up which is no biggie, nobody comes to the back of the house. Anyhoo, I was sitting outside with my morning coffee and saw something glint in the grass, sure enough the missing keys. They likely fell out of my pocket when I sat down previously. I'll have to put a GPS on the DanG things!
Quote from: sawguy21 on June 19, 2021, 04:35:38 PM
My dumb stunt doesn't match some of yours but I'll 'fess up anyway. A few weeks ago I mislaid my keys. I knew they were here because I drove home and unlocked the door. Fortunately I have a spare set but no house key so couldn't lock up which is no biggie, nobody comes to the back of the house. Anyhoo, I was sitting outside with my morning coffee and saw something glint in the grass, sure enough the missing keys. They likely fell out of my pocket when I sat down previously. I'll have to put a GPS on the DanG things!
I’ve locked myself out of my truck enough times to make me get in the habit of using a carribeaner clip with my keys and latch it on a belt loop of my pants anytime I’m not using them. Never lose them after that.
I haven't read through 89 pages on here to see if I'm the only one that has perfected the art of the long taper. But, if you haven't perfected it, it's not hard to accomplish. Just forget to drop your hydraulic toe lift. After you make your first cut, rotate the log 180 degrees and leave the toe lift up! Viola, instant taper. Now, my next trick is to try to figure out what to use tapered boards for!😡 I only wish I could say I've only done that once, but nay, I cannot.
Well I hate to break the bad news, but you may be the only one that ever did that. ;) Long wedges can come in handy though.
And nobody here has ever sawed into a backstop or put bar oil in the gas tank on a chainsaw either. :o
Welcome to the club!
I agree with btulloh. I never heard of anyone else making a long wedge by forgetting to lower a toeboard. I'm sure glad I've never done anything like that or sawed into the side supports and for the record, my mill came from the manufacturer with one tip of claw turner shorter than the other. ::)
You don't have to read all 89 , just go back 2 pages and you can see a picture of one somebody put on my mill.
I have had people sneak up on me and put a couple of tapered boards in my fresh sawn stack while I was not looking. Never actually been able to catch them red-handed yet ::).
What I do to eliminate the wedge board ( ok, maybe not totally eliminate ::)) is to hit both toe board levers every time I roll a cant. Even if I know I didn't lift them I hit the levers. Works every time. Except when I forget. Then it don't work so well. Your results may vary.
mh
Well moosehunter I will agree with that. I have done this more than once and you would think I would have learned my lesson, but oh no not me. I will try your advice. It sounds good. But I'm sure I'll fall back into my old ways sooner or later. I see we are the same age. I might also suggest to turn off the cell phone while operating a mill. The distraction of receiving a call makes you forget where you leave off.
A little off topic but I saw something I considered very dumb yesterday. A tv commercial showed him in his woodshop making guitars, she comes in with glasses and pours two stiff shots of Glenfiddich! I enjoy an occasional glass of good single malt too but that wasn't the place for it.
While my beer fridge is in my woodshop, I do not drink beer when I'm even remotely going to use my power tools.
On the subject of my parent's boat....we are finally heading to MN tomorrow to get it. The guy was in the hospital for several days. Seems he had a dumb occurrence last weekend while playing softball. I had to use a personal day to get out of work tomorrow so dad and I can drive 10 hours to Minneapolis and then turn around and head straight back south. I'm not sure if we will stop for the night or just push all the way back to STL. I'm just happy its finally going to happen.
Good for you guys! Bring grease, some tools, and a set of wheel bearings if you have them, just so that you don't need them. ;D Drive safe, that's a long turn around.
On the subject of booze in the shop, nobody would ever confuse me with somebody that doesn't like beer and the very occasional harder stuff. When the first beer gets cracked, the work is done for the day, and it's time to contemplate what the next day's work will be.
I do the same procedure as moosehunter, every time I move the cant, I automatically hit the levers to lower the toeboards, even if I hadn't used them.
Only takes a couple of seconds!
Dad and I left at 0700 yesterday and drove 10 hours to Minneapolis. We spent about an hour buying the boat and then headed back south 4 hours to Iowa City for the night. Left there this morning at 0600 and arrived home at 1200. The boat is in great shape and dad will spend then next few weeks getting it cleaned up and outfitted like he wants. New fish finder/GPS. He will install a 3 way battery charger. The trolling motor that came with it is only 12v so he will likely install it with a second battery. His old boat had a 24v troller.
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Nice boat!
I think you did something smart. ;D
I think we did too. Wasn't sure until we got there to look at it.
I left my truck window down today at work. Rained like one of Southside's cows peeing on a flat rock for about 20 minutes before I thought about it. Drove home sitting on a towel..... ::) glad I have a vinyl floor.....
Whoops.
Sweet boat FFOTS! Just nod with the compliments at the launch. ;D
JJ
He has the 4'th seat, is that a 18.5', what is the model?
JJ
Two of the seats do not match the boat, so he obviously added some seats at some point. He gave us another seat that was broken. I think it matched the boat, but was broken pretty bad. The boat is a 2003 Angler SS 1700. It is 17' 2" long and 92" wide with a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke.
It's a mighty pretty boat. Congrats to you and your Pop. Maybe someday I will allow myself to get sucked back down the nautical hole. Stuff like this makes me think about it a lot.
lake and river delivery of mushroom logs extra! :D :D :D ;) :)
Quote from: doc henderson on June 26, 2021, 08:43:40 PM
lake and river delivery of mushroom logs extra! :D :D :D ;) :)
Not to worry, I have a schooner connection for the river deliveries already, I am sure I could work something up for lakes too.
We don't have any rocks here, but feel free to send that rain over this way @Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) This keeps up and the cows will be giving kerosene, the words she knows are all obscene, but it's all right....
Something New and Dumb, for me anyway. Last Saturdays job had two piles of logs. Sawed the first one, doing the quick move to the next. Latch the ball hitch, safety chains justincase... Move, setting back up and I can't lift the tongue off the ball! What the Dang??? About give myself a hernia! The ball latch is still latched. Doh. The back of an F-250 is a bit too heavy for the WM jack!
mh
Title this one cell phone nightmare.
My Samsung Galaxy six wouldn't start.
I know from a previous event that if you hold down the volume button and then the power button it will start.
Well I was driving to an appointment.
I stopped on the side of the road to get to start.
I pushed the buttons.
I displayed some starting options. Very Very VERY small print that I couldn't read.
I pushed ok.
Well it was set at factory default reboot.
So it started, and as it was starting it deleted all my downloaded apps. All my pictures, all my wifi settings.
But luckily not my contacts folder.
So I have all my phone numbers.
Next it said I had to lock on to my samsung account. Well of course it asked for a password. Who knows what that was and when it was entered. So I selected forgot password. Ok to reset your password go to this website. But you can't do that from the phone. I had to go home with my laptop and get online and go to that site and enter a new password. Ok, done. Oh by the way you don't have a samsung account anyways. What a waste of time.
I couldn't find my normal GPS program so I downloaded another one.
Turned it on and headed out the door of the house.
In the truck as I was waiting for traffic at a red light, I see that my old gps program is still in my phone. So I started that. Now I have two gps programs working and both are talking to me giving directions. Basically arguing with each other over which way I should go.
Deleted the new one.
I'm still in the process of getting all my stuff set up and working again.
What a hassle, but you can't live without them now a days.
Jim Rogers
Too funny but I'm not laughing on account of my 20 month old grand daughter somehow changed the settings on my phone ,now if i want to txt anyone i have to go to cotacts pick one then click on message then hit the arrow at the top in order to read or send a txt. I plan on getting my 8 yr old grandson to try and fix it for me.
I often get asked about the control station on my sawmill. Once a Polish guy asked me about it and I decided to show off and change the display into Polish. Well needless to say I was not able to continue that demonstration very far and I even had to spend quite a bit of time figuring out how to get it back into English because I couldn't read a word of it.
@Jim_Rogers (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=95) its never good when your phone is arguing with itself.
@terrifictimbersllc (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11495) where was the Polish guy to help you translate?
We have a new F550 truck at the FD and it already had a recall for torque spec on the front hub extension nuts. The truck was not supposed to be driven according to the recall. Ford roadside service towed the truck for us. The 2 closest Ford dealers told us they were not able to do the recall at the time, so it was supposed to be towed to the dealer where we bought it about 30 miles away. That was on Monday. Now fast forward to today and I went 30 miles to the dealership to get it. I walked in and said I'm here to get our truck. They said, it was never brought here. I thought they were messing with me. I called back to my office manager and asked who had called to say it was ready. She said it was the Ford dealer right down the road.....the one who said they couldn't do the work. So now I had to drive back the 30 miles and then 5 miles the other way to get the truck. Somehow Ford roadside towing took the truck to the wrong dealer and then that dealer ended up doing the work anyway. I just shake my head.
I would be sending a letter to Ford, that is not acceptable.
Did they really fix it or just pretend to fix it? Hard to have confidence in the dealer under those circumstances.
friend working on my tiller and wanted the new harbor freight engine i have for it, It has been sitting for a year s0 I wanted to start it before I gave it to him. wouldn't start so I fed it through the air intake with extra sea foam in the fuel. Still wouldnt run on its own. Finally gave up and started to take it back into the garage. That is when I noticed the little knob that said on off with a fuel symbol by it. Turned the knob to on and the engine runs perfect.
That's a good one.....
Years ago, my dad thought he locked up his new 028 stihl saw. Turns out the chain break was set....
I call these things "good problems". Cheap to resolve after you determine the cause.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on June 30, 2021, 05:35:57 PM
@Jim_Rogers (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=95) its never good when your phone is arguing with itself.
@terrifictimbersllc (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11495) where was the Polish guy to help you translate?
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on June 30, 2021, 05:35:57 PM
@Jim_Rogers (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=95) its never good when your phone is arguing with itself.
@terrifictimbersllc (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11495) where was the Polish guy to help you translate?
He would have been there but it's been a while. All I remember for sure was the fright and embarrassment. It was Accuset and trying to navigate the menus with familiarity missing. In the end I think I realized that I hadn't saved the change and just turned off the key and when it came back again it was in English.
Was the Polish guy's name "Gene Dobrey"? ;D
Quote from: sawguy21 on June 30, 2021, 08:14:14 PM
I would be sending a letter to Ford, that is not acceptable.
Maybe. I considered calling the Ford roadside number to ask what had happened, but decided it would not solve anything and just waste my time.
Quote from: btulloh on June 30, 2021, 08:28:35 PM
Did they really fix it or just pretend to fix it? Hard to have confidence in the dealer under those circumstances.
Good question. The recall simply involved checking the torque spec. My guess is that once they got the truck they looked into the recall and realized it was easy to do.
It always tweaked me the way dealerships would give no priority to the "E" vehicles. Our dealer used to leave our ambulances out in their lot for days at a time time in the winter, they refused to pull it in the shop overnight, freezing anything inside that would freeze, they never put a landline on to keep things charged (there are a lot of 'systems' in an ambulance that require power), and then call us to pick it up and we would find everything flat dead, the service work poorly done or half done, and it would need to go back again. A lot of times we just did the work ourselves to save the hassle and lost time. Not every department has back up equipment, so taking a rig out of service is a burden on the community and neighboring agencies.
I was once friendly with an agency up north, right on the St. Lawrence river which had spec'ed out and bought a very fancy ALS rig, it was a large chassis job with a lot of custom work done to handle the unique aspects of their response area, it carried and supported a lot more gear than a normal ALS rig. But the brand new unit came with a lot of brand new factory issues (shorts, open grounds, lights wired wrong, intermittent connections, mechanical issues, etc). Every time they found a new problem they had to take it to Syracuse for service, over an hour away and using two drivers and two vehicles each way. Every time it was there for a week or more. I think it took them 4 months to get it 'mostly right'.
"E" vehicles are built to different standards and require a lot more maintenance because the risk is much higher for someone getting hurt if there is a failure. For instance, did you know that the cab of a firetruck must support the entire weight of that vehicle (loaded) when it is upside down on it's roof without buckling? Having said that, I wish the manufacturers would keep that in mind when they build and test these things. I don't think I have ever seen a new rig get delivered and then not have any issues within days, weeks, or months that did not require fixing or rework. Most times it is small, but sometimes people nearly got killed because of sloppy work or poor engineering or shoddy quality control.
Funny you bring that up. Our new 4wd light rescue truck came with the wires powering the entire box ziptied to the front driveshaft. First thing we did when we put the truck into service was lock the front hubs.
Bet you can all see where that went :)
brand new truck just put into service taken out of service instantly!
Well, that wasn't very bright! ::)
OK, well I have never seen or heard of something that incompetent, but you made my point, in part. The next question is, how long did/will it take the builder to make it right and get you new rig in service? If they did that, I have have to wonder what you are going to find down the road. If I were an officer in your company, I would have my guys going over every inch now looking at every wire connection on every terminal strip, checking underneath and checking every bolt for tightness, then giving a list to the department lawyer. I'd want them to have their techs in the station at 9am Monday morning and not leave until you accept the truck.
Nothing enrages me more than this. These folks have completely forgotten that they are building vehicles that are used to save lives and property, but more importantly they are to keep the firefighters on them safe as they do the most difficult work. When trucks get people killed because they were put together poorly, that is unforgiveable.
I don't suppose you could share the builder's name? Maybe in a PM? I'd like to pass the word around so others are aware.
Some ways I would like to tell everyone but since they did make it right I choose not to spread bad publicity for one persons mistakes.
However they have not been the best service ppl but are the only game in town for us.
I think it took us another month to get the truck back in service.
But right after we had it back the chief was playing with the light tower mounted on top of the truck. Forgot to put it down and backed into the building. Boom! theres goes light tower #1 :)
Quote from: sawguy21 on July 03, 2021, 10:17:03 PM
Well, that wasn't very bright! ::)
literally! :o :o :o :) 8) :snowball:
I tried to rejoin the wheel falling off
of the trailer club yesterday. I turned onto a South bound highway bringing my boat back home and felt a vibration, slowed down and got to a good spot to pull off and two lug nuts were gone. ::)
Tightened the remaining three, stole one from the opposite side and drove slowly back toward home. Kept stopping and checking every couple miles. Fortunately one of the farms stores was open and a five pack of lug nuts was obtained as well as a new tire and rim. Last half of the ride was fine. I should have checked them a few miles into the trip home. Had the tire wrench handy... Much better than falling clear off though..
Kick Save, And a BEAUTY! 8)
Dumb thing was is I know I was the one who had the wheel off of that side early last spring..... I swear I put the impact wrench on it after I let the jack down. The rim was on the side that shucked a bearing in Fargo last summer when my buddy that owns the other half of the boat had it up in Minnesota fishing... don't know if it messed it up then, oh well it's got a nifty new one now...
Quotemy buddy that owns the other half of the boat
So it's a partner-ship? ??? ;D
:D :D :D :D
It was my turn today........for the second time in 30+ year career, I had to call somebody to retrieve me. I was looking at a road that I am moving my contractor onto to fix. It had been chewed up pretty good. I slid over in a set of ruts and there I stayed. Reached under my toolbox for my shovel and it was not there.......maybe for the best as it was well north of 90 and I didn't have any water in the truck as I was just "riding and looking". Of course I didn't have any cell service. I walked about a mile back to a hill and was able to text my wife. She called my Brother-in-Law that lived a few miles from where I was stuck. I couldn't place a voice call, but he found me in short order. Winched me out with a 9,000 pound "Badlands" winch and then had to self recover as he couldn't move out of his tracks. Since there are no pictures, I guess it really didn't happen. Note to self......remember how to walk when things get rough. Second note to self......fix the 4 wheeler so you can ride into those places.
Wud
Oh man, that's embarrassing. I'm glad I've never gotten my truck stuck and had to call my neighbor to come pull me out or have to call the local FD and have them come and pull me out with a brush truck.
Sure. :D
Stuck, out of fuel, never....
I dunno what you guys are talking about. I have never been stuck. Just slightly delayed :)
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Stuck? No. Just detained pending mitigation.
At first was wondering how you found a mud hole there Wud, not sure they exist right now - maybe after Friday. Like the others I am sure glad I never had the frost come out of the road 50 miles in the woods and sink my truck to the frame while I had to wait for a 50,000 lb wheel loader to come and pull me out, in the days before cell phones where you had to call on a radio that everyone in scanner land listened to, yup - glad that never happened.
I was up in the northern frontier where they had 5 1/2 inches last week. The water was really irrelevant. The tires were in the air with with the frame bottomed out. DANG big tired 4 wheeling crowd did me in.
Wud
3rd note to self Wudman: Discretion is the better part of valor.
Today I went to install bookcases and a desk I built. Everything was going great until I told my son to go get the air hose so we could install base trim. He said, in a voice that worried me, is it in the truck. It was a voice that suggested to me that he had not seen a hose. No hose. No base trim or any other trim installed. I would have run to the store and bought a new hose, but I also was going to have to go back to install crown mold, so we just finished for the day. I have an extra air hose because of the last time I forgot to bring one. I also have an extra 18 gauge brad nailer from when I forgot to bring that.
I hate it when that happens. :D
This is in no way the dumbest thing I've done but today I loaded my tractor on my trailer to go to a small driveway repair job in the morning. Then I decided I'd probably be wise to fuel the truck up. About half way to the station I realized I didn't have my billfold with me. Only took an extra 20 minutes to turn around and start over. At least no blood was shed. :-[
Not the first time that has been done nor will it be the last.
Quote from: KenMac on July 09, 2021, 09:57:14 PM
This is in no way the dumbest thing I've done but today I loaded my tractor on my trailer to go to a small driveway repair job in the morning. Then I decided I'd probably be wise to fuel the truck up. About half way to the station I realized I didn't have my billfold with me. Only took an extra 20 minutes to turn around and start over. At least no blood was shed. :-[
It's worse when you realize AFTER you pumped the gas. :-X
That was a very long time ago....................i would be harder to do now.
Quote from: Machinebuilder on July 10, 2021, 08:32:03 AMIt's worse when you realize AFTER you pumped the gas.
I did that 2 years ago, I explained it to the cashier that I had to go home to get my wallet, she looked at me and said ok but not very convincingly so I offered my cell phone to show that I would come back, that seemed to help. I was back in 5 min.
These days your cell phone can get you out of these situations. Apple pay, google pay, etc. work well and it's worth setting up at least one card on your phone. I find it convenient and use it more and more. No wallet, no problem.
on our way to the pig roast about 2 years ago, we stopped for gas. the pump would not take our card and my wife went into the store to get food and snacks and go poddy. she got the pump on and came out after I was done pumping, and I went in to Poddy. we got about 20 miles down the road, when I asked, you paid for the fuel right. NO. we called the store and they said they were about to call the police. they would not take our card over the phone so we had to go back. pulling a 41 foot camper.
Our current home is about 3.5 hours from a home we built on our family property. We've been steadily taking a few items at a time and placing in a storage unit. The key to the lock is on my truck key set. Every so often we'd use our old GMC Suburban to take a load and would have to take truck key set to open the lock. Yep, one time forgot the truck key set. Borrowed a bolt cutter from the folks at the storage unit. Man that was a hard lock.
Sounds like a good reason to get a duplicate key and a battery powered angle grinder.
Keep a $20 bill and one of the credit cards I use less stashed in the truck. Peace of mind.
I did'nt get this pile stacked and stickered for too long, with the heat and humidity I found this white fungus/mold growing.
its stickered now, it won't be doing much drying in this weather though.
Currently 80 degrees and 75% humidity. I think I was drier getting out of the shower........
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I may or may not have a stack of wood growing something right now. It is covered, so at least it is not getting wet.
That was undercover (on my bobcat forks in the barn)
The boards laying on each other was not a good thing.
Covers don't let the moisture evaporate either.
Quoteon our way to the pig roast about 2 years ago, we stopped for gas. the pump would not take our card and my wife went into the store to get food and snacks and go poddy. she got the pump on and came out after I was done pumping, and I went in to Poddy. we got about 20 miles down the road, when I asked, you paid for the fuel right. NO. we called the store and they said they were about to call the police. they would not take our card over the phone so we had to go back. pulling a 41 foot camper.
Reminds me of a story about a guy going to the pig roast one time that parked on a hill and all the fuel sloshed to one end of the tank and had to get some guys at the pig roast to try to push start him... ;)
Now who would do such a thing? ;D
hmmm. some people have good memories. that is the problem with an 8 foot long 60 gallon tank.! :D :D
I didn't mention any names... ;D
Many year's ago I had a semi fuel tank run bone dry, at night, fully loaded, in winter, right on the off ramp to the truck stop. So I'm a member of the club too Doc. ;)
Maybe it has something do do with the lack of hills where the Sunflowers grow? :D
I don't remember any hill near Jeff's street/house.
Jim Rogers
the slope along the fence between the house and barn/shop. at less than a quarter tank, you are fine to drive, but stop on a slope and it can all run to front or back. I usually fill up under a half. can effectively add about 35 gallons. at 18 mpg with the Duramax, I get a fair range. just cannot get greedy. :). it is like going to NY to see the Adirondack "mountains" when you grew up seeing the rocky mountains.
Boy, did I just do something dumb, but it wasn't as dumb as it could have been. I went to park my wifes car in the garage but realized the little tennis ball we have hanging to know how far to pull in wasn't there. I put the car in "park" and got out to put the ball back. The trouble was that "park" was actually reverse. I got out and that car immediately went backwards. I managed to jump back in and slam on the brake. It made a big screech sound and luckily didn't hit the side of the garage. That would have been the really dumb part. What she doesn't know won't hurt her.
An acquaintance from high school got killed doing that. Apparently she had the engine running while cleaning the snow off the windshield, her husband thinks junior put the car in reverse. She tried to jump in and got run over.
Thats terrible.
I lose my wedges and mallet in the woods frequently that’s something dumb I do I gotta rehab, I don’t wanna wear a belt really either.
HK, I cut the wedge pouch off my chaps, it was useless there anyway. Then took a broken boot lace and poked a couple holes to tie a sling. Now it gets hung on the tractor, axe handle, carabineer on belt, on a limb where I forget it and have to go back... Hey, wait a minute ;D
Quote from: HemlockKing on July 16, 2021, 09:34:28 AM
I lose my wedges and mallet in the woods frequently that's something dumb I do I gotta rehab, I don't wanna wear a belt really either.
Paint them all hot pink or some other highly visible color. At least they will be easier to find when you forget them.
Well I started out shoving wedges in pockets and leaving stuff behind, then I worked up to a full belt that holds the ax, first aid kit, tools, wedges, tape, and a flagging tape dispenser. That works great for walking and cutting and I never leave anything behind. But last month I was doing mushroom logs and they are all small trees, rarely need a wedge except in cases where I would have to drive one against the lean. It just wasn't worth dragging that whole belt out, so I shoved a wedge or two in my pocket which was just like before and I had to remember to pick them up, plus I didn't have tools handy enough all the time. So between trips I saw this tool paddle I had retired and hanging up in the shop with nothing to do. Originally I purchased it from HD to use for my basic EMS tools, easy to grab and go from the truck when I was first due. It held my steth, B/P cuff, pulse ox, and some gloves. I retired it from EMS when I went to a leg pouch which kept everything cleaner while doing wildland fire EMS work, etc.. SO there it hung and I used it for the mushroom work, it was perfect. Holds 3 smaller wedges, file, scrench, my file, and guide. all I need.
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I got 2 10"wedges and a 6" I never used.
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It has a slip clip on the back so easy to just hook it on the belt for use, and take it off easy when I am done.
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Anyway, for me it was perfect. Easy on and off, and kept everything together. I am keeping it in the truck box because it's a nice grab & go setup for small stuff.
Maybe something like this will work for you?
Quote from: Resonator on July 01, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
Was the Polish guy's name "Gene Dobrey"? ;D
I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate this....I think I might be the only other guy of FF that gets it LOL
Glad it made someone smile. ;D
Part of my family grew up in an area of Wisconsin with lots of good, hard working Polish - Americans, and lets just say there were a lot of "ski's" there. (Not the downhill snow kind). ;D
I see when I put the cover on my mill last time it must have hung on and slightly turned/opened the faucet handle to the lube tank an eighth of a turn and I drained out 5 gallons of lube water - Naaah. Compared to most of my foul-ups hardly worth mentioning. ;D
Well, I done something dumb but not yesterday. It was last week. Had a log hanging on the bucket and raised it up some so I could turn shorter then backed up and ran over a chunk of wood. The wood rolled under the tire and pole vaulted one side of the tractor in the air. Yep, she turned the 400 Int. over in the woods. Slammed me on the ground pretty hard. Was able to walk back to the house. So , I got it tipped back thanks to a neighbor. The rims arent made for side push and the center went through the wheel rim so it cut off the valve stem. Wasnt planning on putting that newer tire on it this soon. But now I might as well. Only broke one hydraulic fitting. Could have been worse. Glad the 400 Int. is the kind you get off of from behind the wheel instead of in front or I would probably been so scared , might have given me a heart attack. , Thanks to God it wasnt any worse. Ya all be careful.
Yikes, thankfully it wasn't worse. Tires can be replaced easily, the soul on the operators seat cannot.
Wouldn't want to be the one doing the laundry at your place, it happens so fast and just when your gaining confidence in yourself. So glad to hear your ok and sorry about the damage to your tractor.
hehe, oops. I got one for yas :)
Got my UTV out to go get the packages at the end of the driveway. Decided to take a hot lap around the house. There is a beech along the edge of the pond with a rock wall. The snakes like to hang out by the rock wall so I took a nice wide path around it as to not run any of them over.
Well, I guess there was a soft spot on the beech. UTV just got a bath. OOPS.
Kubota to the rescue.
Glad you both are ok. The vehicles can be repaired.
I did a stupid move that afterwards I thought, boy that was dumb! A couple weeks ago I took the Polaris Sportsman, single seat 4 wheeler up on a ridge trail I'd not been on in quite a while. I did not take a saw or equipment to clear the trail with. I just wanted to survey to see what needed attention. I did stop and throw a few things off the trail. I got to a branch down that was too large to move and decided to turn for home at that point. I was running at a pretty good clip as I approached a stob/stick leaning out toward the trail. My intent was to grab it as I went by and snap it off. Well it was not as dry as I thought and did not break. The good Lord was watching over this fool. My hand holding the end of the stob just missed my face as I guided it up and over my head. If I was more nimble I would have gotten off and kicked myself.
I truly did do something dumb that day. ::)
Good news is there was no damage. I laughed and my wife came out and helped me out. I may have been able to drive it out but it was on enough of an angle that the potential to put it upside down into the pond was high enough to just say go get the tractor.
Best thing is the kids were waiting for the ride. Glad they were not with me.
Quote from: Crusarius on August 10, 2021, 09:29:29 PM
Best thing is the kids were waiting for the ride. Glad they were not with me.
Yes, but I think we are all a bit more conservative with kids and in my case grandkids! Maybe a small boat is in order! :D
Sam, you are absolutely correct. I would not have done that with them in there :)
I did some REAL DUMB today, had a tree fall on me, on my head and collapsed me. It started with me cutting down a 6 inch 45 degree leaner. Stupidly got my saw jammed, got frustrated a bit and didn't assess me surroundings, I had forgot about the other small trees leaning on this tree I was cutting, I grabbed the axe and chopped it down with my saw still stuck in the cut, tree went down, and after that the rest collapsed on me, dead on jagged snapped of branch would of went through my skull had I not a hard hat, the helmet took a hard hit and fell off
My dome as I collapsed. To add to injury I bent my bare groove. Wedged it back open but no doubt it's not true now.
Holy cow HK, you got lucky! Or at least I think so because you are still typing in full sentences. I hope the wounds were minor, the gear can be fixed/replaced. Those brain farts can be a dangerous thing and I have nailed myself a few times that way. Just last month in fact caught a deadfall branch with my hard hat and sent it flying. Blurred my vision for a few seconds too. Why is it always the small trees that seem to get us, and the big scary ones mostly go as planned?
I hope you recover quick.
No injury that I can tell. I layed on the ground for a minute and moved around slowly just in case I broke something. No pain. I collapsed from the weight on me not from being knocked out, probably wasn't far from being knocked out though. Funny thing is I was reading this thread yesterday thinking "I haven't done anything dumb in awhile! Hooray me!"
Well, I think you're all caught up and up to date now. :-\
I'm glad you're ok.
Yes my status has been updated now lol lol updated To: got rocked but I’m all good! ;D
Quote from: HemlockKing on August 11, 2021, 12:48:34 PM
Yes my status has been updated now lol lol updated To: got rocked but I'm all good! ;D
Yes, a quick refresher course in 'paying attention to the possibilities'. You should be good for a while now.
careful!!!!!
We have been good for two whole weeks, amazing....I just need to remind folks that when running a bandsawmill it will greatly improve performance to properly tension the blade before one makes a cut. It is just better. ;)
A very timely reminder. In fact I was thinking just the same thing as I was running full bore down a log last week and noticed the band pressure was at about 30% of proper loading. Not sure how that happened, I blamed it on the tailgunner, but he wasn't buying it. ;D
I couldn't believe that the dumb thing didn't fall off. I had just tightened it enough to check the tracking. I looked down after a bit and thought why is that blade wobbling out of the cut....yeah oh ::) so I crossed my fingers finished the cut and fixed my error. Then re cut the wavy stuff off... was cutting a bench slab out of erc.
As long as we are talking 'timely reminders', it's also a good idea to make sure the blade has cleared the far end of the log before lifting the head, or so I have heard. :-[ :-[
Or backing the head up... :-X
South side that is one of the reasons I lined my steel blade wheel guards with rubber belting, Having several of those saw head reverse brain farts and ruining a good blade. I now suggest to all saw builders to either line the guards or make them from something other than steel as those blade reversals are will happen. That way a person may be able to continue to keep sawing with the same blade.
Yep, don't hit the down on the simple set or accuset before you clear the end of the cant/log on the return.
Ooh, I hate it when a friend tells me that happens ::) ::).
Moved a bunch of inch and a half clear stone the other day. Tractor was a bit low on fuel. I have one of these "improved" cans that you tend to swear at when using, but I've modified the spout (patent pending, lol) so that it is possible to add the fuel with only the standard compliment of two arms. Great!
Too bad I didn't remember to screw the machine's fuel cap back on. Got to waste some time looking for that item, which I did find, laying in a crevice of the tractor. It is a good thing that diesel has a bit of an odor to it. I probably would have gone all day with no cap on my fuel tank otherwise. Got to waste some fuel too!
Checked the oil and did not put the dipstick all the way in. I do this about once every few months. One side of the tractor will never rust out. ::) :D
Quote from: thecfarm on September 01, 2021, 11:38:28 AM
Checked the oil and did not put the dipstick all the way in. I do this about once every few months. One side of the tractor will never rust out. ::) :D
Forgot a filler cap on my truck one time. Drove like that for a full day doing short stop errands. Check engine came on on the way home. No oil spatter
My mower did something dumb, yesterday. I was driving down a bit of a hill into an area that is rutted out a bit, I turned left a little and the front left wheel fell off. Looks reasonable to fix, hopefully.
The front fell off??
Neglected bearings and areas like those relatively simple areas tend to be like that. I would like to say that I'VE never done anything like that, but I'd be lying 🤥
forgot to raise backstops when turning a log today. logs in the way to get to it with tractor so puled it out with atv cleaned the dirt off with an extra cut
;D You are not the first and won't be the last. At least they weren't up during the cut.
Cardboards out of question.
Backed my JD750 up on to a spruce stump and got it hung going up the steep hill to recover a long poplar log I had cut today. I had to go get the chain saw and finally was able to cut 4-5 inches off the stump so I could get it free. A lot more work than I wanted but fortunately no other damage I have noticed.
My something dumb was yesterday. I think I've made some noise about an Ash mantle I'm making and have been since I slabbed it out of a log probably almost 2 years ago. Well, as it dried and I was ignorant about that process, it moved quite a bit on me making it difficult to cut to size the way I wanted and removing some of the wood there to make it a piece lightweight enough to move and hang on the wall. By removing some of the wood I mean that I wanted to get rid of the back- bottom 4"x4" or so.
I couldn't run it through the table saw. It's too curvy and weird shaped. It was too unwieldy for the bandsaw, so I didn't trust that. Sawzall was no good. Handsaw, no good. I tried a circular saw to cut straight down then horizontally as well, and the blade just burned everything and since it was ripping it was slow going and sketchy. I tried a router and that was sketchier still. I took to an 1.5" paddle bit on a drill and drilled it full of holes and spent hours chiseling it apart, and while that worked well it was very labor intensive. Finally, I just let it sit on the bench for a while so I could contemplate.
I have a ripping chain and a chainsaw. I've been a bit nervous to use it, especially in this fashion, since I'm new to the chainsaw ripping game. Well, I got my big boy pants on and fired it up. 10 minutes later I had the piece pretty much where I wanted it with very little drama, other than me being angry at all the time I've wasted not using the chainsaw... Real dumb.
I didn't break my foot 30 minutes ago, but I don't know how. The dumb part was trusting some punky sapwood on a big walnut cant. The cant was about 8" x 16" x 9'. I needed to roll it over and so I put the cant hook to it and put my foot up on the sawmill to brace myself. I got the cant up about 12" and the hook point pulled out of the the punky sapwood. The whole weight came down on my foot. I remember it bouncing once. Then I was left with the thing sitting on my foot. I had to lift it by hand to get my foot out. Of course I had to brace with my foot that had a cant sitting on it. It hurts but it is not broken. The 2 lessons I learned are to not trust punky sapwood when your foot is on the line and to not put my foot there. On the bright side I got some real nice 6/4 walnut from a couple of free logs.
I am willing to bet you had something on your feet with better protection than safety flip flops. :D If you are anything like me you have a bunch of worn out duty boots and such your wear around the mill and doing sloppy yard work. All have hard toes pretty much. Heck even the shoes I wear going out to dinner have hard toes because they were bought as business casual shoes for when I was working and had to look presentable or at least professional. I have lots of shoes and duty boots I'm trying to wear out while I save for something new. Glad you are OK and the lesson was learned. I bet it is sore in the morning. ;D
Funny, you go out on a risky deployment and come back unscathed, then in one day home...that happens.
I'm either wearing steel toe work boots or crocks, no in between lol . Mostly work boots but if I'm just running to the store quick maybe crocks. Funny thing is I kind of thought they were cheesey and especially people who wore them, now I just don't give a dang.
Actually, I rarely wear steel toes. Today I was wearing hiking shoes. I think the cushioned soles helped to absorb the blow and thats why I saw the cant bounce. I'm wearing my crocs now.
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I wear these Sketcher shoes with composite safety toes. They are lighter weight than my steel toe boots and have memory foam insoles. They ARE UGLY, comfortable AND they meet the ASTM Standard F2413 for Safety Toe shoes. For office work with the occasional trip into the production yard, they are sufficient. Of course the drawback is one impact or heavy compression and they no longer meet the standard/have to be replaced. Steel toes can take more incidents. If I'm working more than a short time in the production yard, I wear steel toe boots. I do wear these when running my own mill.
These are just a bit better than safety crocs or safety flip flops. :)
I wear the Sketcher safety shoes with composite toe and love them. They are feather light compared to steel toed boots.
I will look into those the next time I go somewhere that sells Skechers. The way the log fell on my foot I don't think safety toes would have done anything for me. The log landed on the top of the middle of my foot and my toes were kind of hanging over the edge of the mill crossmember. Now, my boots that I wear for my task force, they would have done something. They are steel toes and also has steel, jointed armor that covers the whole top of the foot. They are called Matterhorns.
I tested my chaps today. Got really tired, sat down on a log, set the chainsaw on my thigh. Guess I should have hit the brake first like I always do. Barely touched the chaps as the chain was almost at a stop, sliced through the nylon and one, maybe two layers of the stringy stuff. It managed to stop the chain pretty quick. Kinda surprised me that the small amount of material stopped the chain the way it did.
Now I think I am in the market for new full wrap chaps. These ones were to small anyhow.
That certainly is a wake up call!
yup. worst thing is I kept slipping today, I always set the brake when I am not cutting and I kept forgetting. Today was not a smart chainsaw day.
Yeah, you are way too young to pick up the nickname of 'Gimpy'. I have days like that where it just doesn't feel smooth and I work slower and more cautiously. No rhyme or reason, you just get those days. Best to pick a different task on those days. Glad you came through it ok. Those chaps were probably making your butt look big anyway, best to get a more attractive pair.
You're supposed to wear pants under the chaps, Tom.
Well I assumed you were. :-[ Not everybody does. :D
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 12, 2021, 09:38:09 PM
You're supposed to wear pants under the chaps, Tom.
Dang, when I first read that I that it said panties. Oh well not much of a story I guess.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
When we were in Sturgis ,1997 motorcycle rally, there was a gal wearing a pair of chaps, white leather, with nothing covering the cheeks , does that count.
Only if they were white chainsaw chaps.
I think if you wear panties, you are not supposed to let them get in a bunch! :) What say you @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) 8) :D
I did end up milling 4 logs after the chainsaw event so thats more than I have milled all year. Now I have enough I should be able to make some doors for my lumber storage leanto.
gettin back on that horse. glad all is well!
yea, I keep having to evict a mouse from the engine. Hopefully the trap I set got him. I should go look at that.
Can't get the smell from the nest on the hot engine out of my nose.
Fish cab might help with that mouse lol
I got another one yesterday. i should have been saving the hides and the meat. :) :) :) :new_year:
Man I love my powerfeed, but it can lead to problems of its own. I was milling cedar for a friend and a little limb stopped the head, because I hadn't slid the guide out of the way. I stepped up and stopped the mill. As soon as I put the slightest bit of backward pull on the head the blade jumped off. I didn't use the reverse of the power feed, but I just pulled back a little and bam. My buddy was so impressed until then.
I don't know how the PF works on a 15 and of course there is no comparison to the 50 because they are built different but like you I am enjoying that PF a LOT over my manual mill. However, on the 50 even though you have full speed control going forward, there is only STOP, or Full Throttle coming back. When you break a blade in the cut or have some other issue where you need to back up it is problematic to get it to just slowly move back a little. Also, if you run out of the cut at the far end and don't come up quite enough before you hit the reverse, you have no time to correct and the blade generally reminds you what you did wrong. It happens in a millisecond. Machines are not forgiving in any way. No mercy for us that are weak of mind or slow of hand. ;D :D :)
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on September 14, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
I don't know how the PF works on a 15 and of course there is no comparison to the 50 because they are built different but like you I am enjoying that PF a LOT over my manual mill. However, on the 50 even though you have full speed control going forward, there is only STOP, or Full Throttle coming back. When you break a blade in the cut or have some other issue where you need to back up it is problematic to get it to just slowly move back a little. Also, if you run out of the cut at the far end and don't come up quite enough before you hit the reverse, you have no time to correct and the blade generally reminds you what you did wrong. It happens in a millisecond. Machines are not forgiving in any way. No mercy for us that are weak of mind or slow of hand. ;D :D :)
AMEN to the last sentence! Cook's saws also return at full speed and is good for maximum production, but it does make things difficult at times.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on September 14, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
It happens in a millisecond.
OG:
Are you sure it takes that long?
GAB
Actually no I am not, because every time something like that happens I am too busy saying "OH SH....t!!" and I don't look at the stop watch. ;D
So I've been out in the bush a few days. I took a trip out to SW Colorado. With my oldest son, we drove my wife's truck. It's a fairly low milage 2018 4wd half ton chevy. My truck has my work box in it.. I had planned on replacing the tires, oh about November...They were getting kind of tired, but good enough til snow time right.(yes son of a long line of Swedes "there's still good in that...).. I thought about it a bit before I left on the trip, but logistically with the call and work schedule (and packing) i didn't squeeze it in...( My back country stuff hadn't been out since 2013) We had six kids going through high school for a stretch there and no time for extra trips.
So the point is I managed 3 flat tires in a four day stretch. Thank you to American auto repair and tire shop in Motrose Colorado. They fixed two, I had another flat after driving across my father's newly mowed bailed CRP field, to get an idea of how many bales were out there. That was yesterday on my way back home. At least I was where I grew up and had a friend close by with all the stuff to get me going again 🙄. Did I drive any roads much worse than the one in front of my house, nope. Have I ever had an issue driving across that field before, again nope. Should I have taken the time 10 days ago or so to round up new tires and replace the soft (insert favorite derogatory term here) original equipment highway tires on the truck before I left... Yes ....again I did something dumb....but I had a good time minus the tire repairing.
Well part of the bonus for going off grid/in the bush is learning (re-learning) how to overcome and trouble shoot. sounds like you did well. On a trip back from summer camp a few years back, we had a blow out on I70 still in Co. On the right, so the boys got to change the tire and put on the spare. the second failure was near Ellsworth, Ks, almost to Salina highway 81, but only lost the tread. first stop was an old station that is not more of a quick shop. the older owner prob. in his 70s, took me out to a container with piles of tires. he quoted me 100 bucks for an odd sized bias tire prob. at least half his age. no thanks. we drove into town (on steel belting) and left the trailer at a friends house, went back with another spare. found redneck trailer had tires on clearance mounted to a wheel already. four new tires and wheel. It was hot, but not loaded that heavy. so tires were old and weak. ready to roll.
Reminds me of when I picked up my new-to-me boat - 1961 18' StarCraft. The owner was an auto shop teacher the he had the kids make a custom trailer. Tandem axle with two extra tires up front for beach/surf launching. Made from Corvair hubs and tires. So these tires were probably 15 years old. Took all surface streets home (20 miles) and kept it below 30 or so. Then the last hill about 2 miles from my place I got going too fast. Peeled two of the tires and made it home on bias ply cord!
Yeah, I have been guilty of running tires past their best before date and paid for it ::)
Sounds like you were having bad luck with nails or other tire puncturing metal. Maybe if you had put new tires on, you would have been having new tires patched. I just told my wife yesterday that I was going to put new tires on my truck before the snow flies. I'm quite sure I will be OK since the tires are only about 2 years old.
Not really dumb, other than poor luck... My wife (at the time) and kids and I went to Hilton Head, South Carolina for a big, extended family vacation. Our cars weren't up to it so we rented a car. The kids were little, probably 1 and 3, or so, so we had all the stuff that that entails, a little fold-up play yard, diaper bags, all our luggage, etc.
On the way down, out in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night (so I could drive while the kids slept) I feel my back driver's side tire go down. I pull off to the side of the highway, unload the entire trunk to get to the spare, change the tire (next to 70mph traffic whizzing right past my butt), and go to replace the flat in the trunk, to find it doesn't fit. Welp, into the passenger seat it goes, with my wife. We get to our destination I scrape enough money together to buy a new tire and all is good... Until...
On the way home, out in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night (so I could drive while the kids slept) I feel my back driver's side tire go down. I pull off to the side of the highway, unload the entire trunk to get to the spare, change the tire (next to 70mph traffic whizzing right past my butt), and go to replace the flat in the trunk, to find it doesn't fit. Welp, into the passenger seat it goes, with my wife. There was probably about 8 hours of the drive left. I don't think I paid for another tire that time, just took it back to the rental place.
Oh! I guess I did do something dumb related to tires recently! My wife came home a couple days ago and said she's got a screw sticking in her tire. We look and sure enough there it is but it can be plugged, and I just happen to have a plug kit available. She's got an suv that is too tall for my nicer jack, so I use the miserable one that came with the car. Everything goes fine as I pull the tire off and roll it into the garage to plug it when, upon pulling the screw out, I find that it's only in the thick part of the tread about an eighth of an inch and isn't really creating a hole that leaks. Whoops. Next time I think I'll remember to try pulling the stuck item first, dummy.
I'm feeling a little foolish. I have been cussing my desk top for about a week, I would get a drop down every time I clicked which wouldn't allow me to go further. If I clicked to close it the page would disappear, GRRRR! Today I noticed the mouse was looking a little grungy, the gap between the paddles was full of dust and probably toast crumbs among other things so I plugged in a spare I found in the drawer. VOILA!!! I'll be DanGed ::)
Ordered the tires this am. No ten plies tires to be had. The new tires will be on tomorrow. Dropped the truck off in town and then watched the second half of a JV football game. I hate it when a mouse gets into my toast. ;)
I had a double plug in the skidsteer tire for the last few weeks. It ejected that today. It now has a triple plug in it... which is a feat :D. I believe the writing is on the wall.
Quote from: sawguy21 on September 20, 2021, 09:18:41 PM
I'm feeling a little foolish. I have been cussing my desk top for about a week, I would get a drop down every time I clicked which wouldn't allow me to go further. If I clicked to close it the page would disappear, GRRRR! Today I noticed the mouse was looking a little grungy, the gap between the paddles was full of dust and probably toast crumbs among other things so I plugged in a spare I found in the drawer. VOILA!!! I'll be DanGed ::)
That reminds me of a couple weeks ago I was entering some scale data into the Govt system and as I was entering the numbers the cursor started flipping around on the screen on its own for some weird reason. I thought my computer was going south or a virus or something was doing its thing. I took the mouse and tried to settle it down but it just got weird. I took my tally sheet off the left side of my computer to deal with things and it stopped. The darn sheet was laying partially on the mouse pad on the laptop and fiddling with it as I slightly moved the laptop entering data. Made me laugh and glad it was something simple!
Well, it's my turn today.
I was backing my truck up to a spot to load up some stuff, and backed into a log sticking out.
Just the right height to do this:
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Ordered the replacement piece but won't be in until tomorrow morning after 9am.
So a little repair was in order:
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Found the broken pieces and did a little jig saw puzzle solving and clear packing tape and it should pass with a push.....
Jim Rogers
at least you missed the sheet metal. taillights are much easier to change.
Wow! Nice reconstruction Jim!
You did such a nice job Jim, why do you need to replace it? ;D
Truck picked up, the tires are on, so yeah I just locked up my bigger Dolmar saw cutting my slab rack.... I just got good and started on firewood. Expensive day.....wasn't idling down right when I started the second side....Our daughter came over for supper and dad wanted to just get it done. I should've just quit but all I had was 3 more sections to cut. About a 3 minutes more of cutting. Ignored the little voice in my head...... ::) Maybe I should just buy the propane.....
Quote from: thecfarm on September 21, 2021, 08:55:15 PM
You did such a nice job Jim, why do you need to replace it? ;D
I may wait until the inspector says it needs replacing....
Jim Rogers
almost. backing up inbetween rows of logs, and a pile of sandy soil in the middle of an area backing the 32 foot GN off the U shaped drive and into its spot, with my buddy jimmy watching, me looking in the rear mirror. hands went up, and I was 2 inches from backing my dually plastic fender into the end of a 4 inch diam. ERC log. Those fenders are plastic, do not ask how I know, but he saved the day yesterday.
haven't done the down switch on return but I have done things far far worse stupid_smiley
One of the worst things was hooking the mill up to the tractor and taking off to set it up on the upper section of the property. on they I started into a very sharp turn without watching.......yes very dumb as the big tractor tires nearly ripped the hydraulics off the mill..
I was able to save it but just barely and am still smacking myself over it!!!!
Okay, it was yesterday but close enough. I was mowing after about 3 weeks and tall grass to contend with. In the front yard I had a nylon rope with a frazzled end I tied to the rail for the dog to play with. As I got closer I stopped to get off and coil up the rope and get it out of the way but I should have stopped 2' sooner. As I shut the blade off I heard a funny noise. When I tried to move the rope I found it under the mower and tight. I looked and one blade and the nut were on the ground. I cut the rope and picked up my blade and nut and called it a day. Now I have to go raise the mower and see if the spindle is damage or just wrapped up in half inch nylon rope then finish my mowing. ::)
You were lucky, I have seen what happens when a blade comes off at 200mph!
Or,,,,,you could just run with it. Think of it as a giant string trimmer. :D :D :D
Those duallys don't have as much sideways traction as single rear wheels, on slick stuff. I was going back through the woods, last Winter, to check on an old house. A 90 degree, slow speed turn ended up as a 270 in slow motion.
After the plastic fender tapped the tree, I picked up all the pieces. I forgot to start taking pictures before I had already started the repair.
Using 3M DP100, Humpty Dumpty was reassembled. I used stir sticks, and double sided tape to keep the surface aligned. Sorry, got the pictures out of order.
Once the outside was put back together, I laid several layers of fiberglass cloth, and mat, with epoxy, on the inside of the fender, to stiffen it up. A few little pieces wouldn't go back in without distorting the next piece, so those were left out, and filled with epoxy on top of the glass laid underneath.
Every step was epoxy, including flexible body filler, and primer.
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Primer is epoxy too. I have the paint to paint it white, and the decal, but haven't gotten around to the last steps yet.
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I think overall, there is less time in it than installing a replacement fender, and the few hours work were worth the money not spent on the replacement fender. With the layers of glass on the inside, this one is now stiffer than the other one.
Notice Logrite hookeroon that stays in the back to pull stuff out of the bed that I can't reach.
Nice job on the fender.
When the plastic duallys first came out a local contractor got one with a Boss V plow, after a big snow storm he was out plowing driveways and went to open up a driveway entrance where the highway snow plow had left a 5 foot bank along the road so he put the plow in full V and made a run for it and went right through the snow bank looked back and there were his two red fenders in the snow bank.
Well, my mower fix was easy, just lifted it using a pulley on my deer skinning rack and the ATV winch, sharpened and replaced and tightened the nut then finished my mowing.
After that I replaced a bar stretcher nut on my Sthil 440. The shaft had broken in front of the little worm gear. One of those tedious projects but finally got it fixed, install a new bar and an old, dull as it turned out, bar, cut a few cuts on a dead ash limb in the lot and the whole muffler fell off. ::) Some days you just can't win. I assume was just the bolts vibrated loose but I'll replace the whole assembly the next time I can go by a dealer and get the parts.
Should have stuck with the string trimmer Idea. The good ju-ju might have carried over onto the saw.
Now if I recall my history, and I think I do, you've had that 440 for about 20 years now and at one time it was brought back from the dead? It might be time to go over it and just order a bunch of parts to make it feel good about itself again and prevent some of these aging signs? Just askin' ;D :D
The 440 is pretty old, has been rebuilt, set up a year or so till my new mechanic replaced the carb and it runs good. Just little things like the bar stretcher and a new bar and now the muffler falling off. Basically these things are just cost of doing business.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 26, 2019, 10:48:19 PM
I made a cut and then went to raise the head so I could return it for the next cut. Apparently I lowered the saw on accident instead of raised. When I pulled the saw, the back of the blade hit the log and the blade came off the wheels. At first I thought the blade broke, then I realized what had actually happened. The blade appeared undamaged, but I was leery about putting it back on. I figure at the least, some teeth got damaged. Who's done this?
The only people who don't make mistakes are the people who don't do anything. I am looking at buying a mill. How do you like your lt15.
@gaproperty (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28728) I have learned that many times over. I have made that same mistake a few times since I originally posted this. I love my LT15. Mine is about 15 years old and only has 2 bed sections. I'm fine with that since mainly I cut hardwoods for woodworking. Not much need for 16' long walnut. I have upgraded the clamps, installed a new 19horse engine to replace the dead 15horse and have added power feed. I love it even more now. Someday I might want to buy a mobile saw, but for now this is perfect.
I can't be the only one who now, when something dumb happens, thinks of this thread right away and thinks "this will be perfect for the thread".
And so it was last Monday. I was feeling pretty good about myself having just moved a cabin with the forklift I had repaired a couple days earlier. There was a new shed I brought to the site and decided to offload and position it before heading home. Earlier this summer I found the shed free on FB marketplace close to home. It was easy to load as only half the tin cladding was in place (roof and two walls) and all the framing. Over a couple months I left it on the trailer and finished the shed. I decided not to keep track of what I spent on that free shed; the matching tin to clad it, the insulation, the OSB for inside walls, the $20 used door etc. Anyway, with the shed complete I trailered it out to the property.
Trying to offload the finished shed carefully was a tall order compared to putting it on, despite having the forklift on hand. After a lot of fussing and only one close call I had the shed off and on the ground. I was grousing about how much easier this would have been with a deckover trailer. Given the narrowness of this shed I could reach from behind with the forks reaching across under the floor. With the trailer out of the way I repositioned the forklift to pick up the shed in order to place blocks under the corners. The 2x4s I used to slide the shed off the trailer were still under the shed. This is where things get dumb. No problem I thought, I'll just stab the ground a bit to get under the 2x4s. I did that and picked up the shed and 2x4s and started to tweak the positioning of the shed. What I didn't realize was that I had also picked up a large root and attendant clump of dirt between my forks and the bottom of the shed which high-centered the shed allowing it to start a slow-motion dive away from the machine. I tried setting the whole works down but couldn't drop it fast enough before it dropped on its face.
All in all I was lucky. There was a soft mound that caught it before it landing completely flat. The shed was empty. No windows nor the door were broken and most of all nobody was under it. I came around and tried picking it up with the fork but being so small it just teetered on the far corner. Ultimately I put a strap around it and gently tilted it up from behind. Now all I have to worry about is the wind, perhaps I'll make a big wood pile along the backside...
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I bid on a lot of online auctions. Sometimes I buy stuff that I can use and sometimes stuff that I will buy and re-sell. Tonight I forgot to bid on an auction I had placed initial bids on with the intent to come back as it was ending to bid on the things I wanted. This was all going to be stuff for me. There was a bunch of good woodworking stuff I wanted and some tents and other outdoor stuff I also wanted. I completely forgot to go back to the auction site tonight. I missed out on all the stuff. Well, I did win one thing I had bid on. I won a 5 gallon bucket and a trash can with some whisk brooms in it for $2. Not worth the drive to go pick it up, but since my wife drives thru there every day, she will pick it up for me. Still, I am kicking myself for forgetting. Many of the things I wanted went for just over what I was bidding.
@Roundhouse (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=32799) I started this thread because I did something dumb while milling. I decided to share it with the group and totally did not think the thread would take on a life of its own. Since I originally posted there have been nearly 2000 replies. I think quite a few folks think of this thread when they do something dumb. Thanks for sharing your tipped shed. I'm glad it wasn't damage too badly.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on October 05, 2021, 11:03:05 PMStill, I am kicking myself for forgetting. Many of the things I wanted went for just over what I was bidding.
I've done that more than once in the last few weeks!
Speaking of kicking yourself, which seems to be a persistent theme here.....
SO I got to the mill to squeeze in a couple of hours of milling through the drizzle yesterday trying to salvage an otherwise wasted/lost day and I went through my checks before the first cut, blade tensioned, log clamped, pith pretty straight, stops clear, #@**toe boards down, etc, and I noticed there was a little buildup on the blade. Tweaking that lubemizer is still a work in process for me trying to get it just right without having the wood soaking wet. So I clicked it up a little bit more and began cutting. Checked it after the two opening cuts and there was still a little buildup, so I switched from pulse to continuous, but turned it down a little. Two more cuts and the blade was clean, so I backed off just a bit more and happily milled along. About halfway through zipping off a dozen 1x12 I happened to look up and noticed the valve on the lube jug was closed. Somedays, ya know? smiley_brick hits_hardhat
Do you guys have suggestions for good auction sites? I've never really gotten into it but it'd be a neat thing to keep an eye on.
Oh yeah, I have a dumb thing too! I did some landscaping work at a neighbors and missed, twice, the phone line that dangled across his yard. I didn't see it the first time when I walked around seeing what the work was, then I missed it a second time as I drove the backhoe through the yard. My backhoe boom, however, did not miss it. Luckily, the guy doesn't use a land line anymore and it was just the phone line. I could have been in big, big trouble.
Quote from: aigheadish on October 06, 2021, 08:43:06 AMo you guys have suggestions for good auction sites?
I use BidRL.com. They are almost all in California but have one store in Indianapolis, IN.
Thanks ljohnsaw! Safe to assume you can get things shipped to you? Like, I don't have to go pick up my winnings? I'll definitely check it out!
edit- At least on that site it looks like no shipping.
I know this one has auctions in Kentucky and Tennessee. I only bid on the MO and IL ones.
https://www.apro.bid/
also try hibid.com
Quote from: aigheadish on October 06, 2021, 10:59:46 AM
Thanks ljohnsaw! Safe to assume you can get things shipped to you? Like, I don't have to go pick up my winnings? I'll definitely check it out!
edit- At least on that site it looks like no shipping.
Yeeeaaahhh, no shipping
Quote from: aigheadish on October 06, 2021, 08:43:06 AMOh yeah, I have a dumb thing too! I did some landscaping work at a neighbors and missed, twice, the phone line that dangled across his yard. I didn't see it the first time when I walked around seeing what the work was, then I missed it a second time as I drove the backhoe through the yard. My backhoe boom, however, did not miss it. Luckily, the guy doesn't use a land line anymore and it was just the phone line. I could have been in big, big trouble.
Don't feel alone with that one. It wasn't today but a few years back I was running a subsoiler in a field down maybe 16", happened to look back and had probably 100' of phone line dragging behind me, oops. Hadn't been service there for probably 20 years so didn't think much of it. The next day a van was parked by the little gray box with a guy stooped over the box working away.
My doing something dumb for the day is signing up on Hibid.com
I wonder how long before I get in trouble on this one... I'm already 2 bids deep.
Quote from: Southside on October 06, 2021, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: aigheadish on October 06, 2021, 08:43:06 AMOh yeah, I have a dumb thing too! I did some landscaping work at a neighbors and missed, twice, the phone line that dangled across his yard. I didn't see it the first time when I walked around seeing what the work was, then I missed it a second time as I drove the backhoe through the yard. My backhoe boom, however, did not miss it. Luckily, the guy doesn't use a land line anymore and it was just the phone line. I could have been in big, big trouble.
Don't feel alone with that one. It wasn't today but a few years back I was running a subsoiler in a field down maybe 16", happened to look back and had probably 100' of phone line dragging behind me, oops. Hadn't been service there for probably 20 years so didn't think much of it. The next day a van was parked by the little gray box with a guy stooped over the box working away.
I'll add my phone box story. I was still a kid. We had rented a new farm and I was discing a field that had been fallow for a few years. I was rolling the sweetgums and honeysuckle under. Out near the road, there was a nice pile of honeysuckle. No problem, that King offset cutting disc would make short work of it. Next pass by I noticed a grey box......yep, telephone box. One of the disc had peeled it open like a can opener. I pushed it back upright and covered it with a hydraulic oil bucket that was in the back of the service truck. I went and told Dad what happened. He went to the farm owner's house (no cell phones back then) and called the phone repair service. The repairman (we knew him well) looked at the bucket and said that's as good as anything I would do this afternoon (it was late on a Friday). That bucket probably hung there for another two years. ;D
Wud
I have not posted on this thread for a while, and it is not cause I did not do anything dumb...I do not post everything. today I will post a three-fer. :o :o :o we have been working intermittantly on a "little library for my wifes massage therapist. we decided to just get it done. mounting the stained glass in the door. pulled out the picture frame pointer to secure the glass. did about three points and realized it was cracking the glass as I put the points between the soldered areas.
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looks good but will use the template and make a new one, or repair this one. was planning to install tomorow. ruined my day.
I have been cleaning and organizing the shop after the how to store wood thread. I am glad I could make others feel better about their own messes. I had trash cans organized by trash like plastic, and i always have a burn can. I had a little fire going all afternoon and I took out the burn can about dusk. it was heavy and looking in it was mostly little cutoff. I had also put dustpans full of sahving and dust. I carried it out with a hand over my shoulder and the plastic 40 gallon trash can on my back. walked up to the fire and dumped it in. the dust in the bottom flatred up like gasoline. I could smell the hair on my arms and I turned away in time to spare my face. I was ok, but the flames were big enough my wife came running and was speechless untill I told her I was ok. I looked in the bottom and there wast still a little dust. you got it I dumped it in, and got the same flames a second time. little spot of 1rst degree burn to each wrist area. good lesson.
so then i was secureing a log to cut tangential cookies. I put a few screws in the log through the jig I use. taking out the screws I knew they would be hot, but my brain said, "so pick up real fast to move it. it burned bad real fast! OMG. so I am caught up.
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Doc, those are some bad days in Bedrock! 3's
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) you of all people should know better ;D
I do, but we all need a gentle reminder occasionally. we think we are bullet proof. :) I am actually 10 feet tall. :o 8) :snowball:
The sawdust thing kinda sounds like why grain elevators blow up, if you get enough fine particles floating in air (oxygen) it becomes an explosive gas waiting to ignite. I have also learned spraying either in a flat truck tire and lighting it to inflate the bead also works good to remove hair. :o
Nice little book box. smiley_thumbsup
Ether used judiciously works great for setting the bead on skidder tires. Too much and things get entertaining, I saw a pickup that took a direct hit from a flying rim.
Something that I don't think I'd ever try lol
Doc! For both of us, I hope they don't come in 3's.
I do dumb things more than I like to admit. Most dumb things I get by with because I can fix them.
Not this one. I bought this truck about a month ago. It is a sweet Silverado High Country 6.2. It's a daily driver, boat and camper tow vehicle. For those purposes it's plenty of truck. Most other work will be done with other trucks.
I needed to load half a dozen arm loads of firewood for a camping trip. I backed up to the wood shed loaded some wood and started to drive around to the camper. Well there was a low hanging limb against the windshield. I turned a bit to the left to avoid the limb and pulled forward. The side of the bed scraped against a firewood bin. The &"@#%! bin was there when I walked around it to get in the truck!
It's a bed off, new bed side kind of repair.....$$$$
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Well it's starting to look like a proper work truck now. Next scratch/dent you won't feel so bad now lol
From the picture it looks like you'll be able to save the gas cap door.
GAB
Mr. King sir, the Admiral won't allow such scratches and dents on something she rides around in. :D :D
Plus the new truck was mostly her idea. According to her , she's been on enough trips in a dump truck (meaning she does not much like the one ton platform Ram dump bed for camping or boating trips).
One ton dump trucks ride so SMOOTH though.... Lol very quiet ride too, no loud BANGS from the dump over any small bump ... :D :D :)
Fine sawdust is so much fun around a campfire. I may have done that on purpose before. In the days before we firefighters were all married with children we would go camping with just the guys. It was called sausage fest. I'm not explaining that. We did what was called, "fun with white gas". I think you can imagine white gas being thrown into a fire.
Sorry bout the truck Ted. That will make a guy sick.
Funny, living in AZ we called those mickeys bombs. Would drink a mickeys beer then fill the bottle with gasoline and set it in the fire till it boiled and popped the top off making a giant fireball. also used sobe bottles. we actually had made a 6 pack rack to put them in the fire gave us the ability to reuse the bottles.
OK, I'm reading this thread so I should make my entry. I went up to the property to do a little more winterizing. I had a bunch of temporary plywood screwed down while we were working on raising the lower bents.
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We were moving them around as we worked. For the winter, I wanted all the tops of the beams covered as well as the center floor beam. Ended up like this:
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Notice all the plywood is gone (so the snow won't pile up). I had to have a base to set my ladder on to get up there to screw them down. Well, to save time, the plywood was loose. Yep, I stepped on the end that was not supported and it flipped up and down I went. I caught myself (a few bumps and bruises). Had I not caught myself, I would have only gone another 6" to the top of a lumber stack.
Doc Henderson,
You ain't alone, brother :). Mine was a tad bit worse than yours, but I ain't bragging'. My accelerant was not sawdust.
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I haven't done anything dumb since yesterday. Well one dumb when I let both chainsaws fall out of the tractor bucket. When I got the tractor stopped one was under the disk and the other was under the right front tire. :-X No picture, so use your imagination.
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The other was not really dumb because I sorta knew what would happen, but it was funny.
@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) are you in the market for 2 new saws? The good news about the mower is that the zero turn can still steer with the front off the ground.
Quote from: WDH on October 10, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
Doc Henderson,
You ain't alone, brother :). Mine was a tad bit worse than yours, but I ain't bragging'. My accelerant was not sawdust.
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WOW! I hope this is a historical pic, and nothing recent.
Hoping all is okay WDH.
Quote from: WDH on October 10, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
Doc Henderson,
You ain't alone, brother :). Mine was a tad bit worse than yours, but I ain't bragging'. My accelerant was not sawdust.
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WDH I do hope this isn't today! I'll count a scratched and dented truck as an inconvenience......
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on October 10, 2021, 11:09:13 AM@Magicman are you in the market for 2 new saws?
I definitely qualify for the "scratch/dent category and I now fully realize the value of chainsaw carrying cases. The MS028 AV is OK (no damage) and the irreplaceable carrying case is hopefully fixable. The MS310's carrying case is totally destroyed. The saw's handle/throttle is really messed up but thankfully all of the saw itself is undamaged.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on October 09, 2021, 07:47:21 PM
Fine sawdust is so much fun around a campfire. I may have done that on purpose before. In the days before we firefighters were all married with children we would go camping with just the guys. It was called sausage fest. I'm not explaining that. We did what was called, "fun with white gas". I think you can imagine white gas being thrown into a fire.
Sorry bout the truck Ted. That will make a guy sick.
As kids we use to sneak into each other's houses and pack flour on the fan blades in our friends rooms. That was until we learned that the dust could combust. Fortunately we learned the easy way from a friends dad and quickly stopped that prank.
:D I never cease to be amazed at the stuff kids think up.
I was loading my truck with stuff from my saw shed in preparation for a concrete pour. I backed the truck into the barn shed to unload it and put a ladder on it to take back to the saw shed. I pulled out of the barn shed about 10 feet and ... oops ... I forgot the ladder so I backed back in and hit a post supporting the shed. I am astounded at the damage to the truck and the lack thereof to the post. See pics. I wish they made trucks like I made the barn. I've backed in thousands of times because that's where I park the truck. Dang!!!
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Trucks are like tin foil anymore - very expensive tin foil. I'll suggest the post probably moved. Yep it moved before you hit it. :D No other way to explain it. Just like the firewood bin.
The back corner of my pickup looks just like that, we won't get into why. ::)
It's a 26 year old truck. It outta be better than that. I gotta get it repaired enough to hold a taillight cover. Now I have a project I don't need.
Replacement lenses aren't too expensive, as I remember on my '98 a couple torx screws and pins are all that hold the tailight in place.
If you had a 20 year old pickup in NH you would have had a pile of rust on the ground as well as a damaged left rear. More than likely you would have to replace part of the replacement flatbed body. That would likely have caused more damage to the post than the body.
Quote from: kelLOGg on October 10, 2021, 03:50:34 PM
I was loading my truck with stuff from my saw shed in preparation for a concrete pour. I backed the truck into the barn shed to unload it and put a ladder on it to take back to the saw shed. I pulled out of the barn shed about 10 feet and ... oops ... I forgot the ladder so I backed back in and hit a post supporting the shed. I am astounded at the damage to the truck and the lack thereof to the post. See pics. I wish they made trucks like I made the barn. I've backed in thousands of times because that's where I park the truck. Dang!!!
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Mr. kelLOGg Sir:
Congratulations on your three fer.
Now you have your own totem pole as a future reminder.
You were involved, so you do not need anyone to explain to you what occurred.
You got it done in a relative short period of time with out spilling any of your hydraulic fluid (blood).
Congratulations on your efficiency.
GAB
Thanks, GAB. It's nice that my skills are recognized. :D
I called my garage. They don't do body work but made a referral. Called them and they said it was too old. A 1995 model is more like a classic car and hard to get parts they said. So, I take my "log" truck to a classic car restoration garage and put it line with 1943 Studebakers and old Lamborghinis? I don't think so.
So I am "repairing" it myself enough to allow a replacement tail light cover to fit so the signals are red.
Hammers, crowbars, pliers make for pretty crude body repair but that's the way it will be.
Kellog, I had a buddy that had a dakota that turned into a pretty serious rock crawler. He quickly crushed the back end so none of the lights would fit. he was able to use the stock sockets and just put colored LED bulbs in to replace the other bulbs. He passed many NYS inspections like that. That may be an option depending on how you care about the looks.
something similar to this led tail light direct replacement (https://www.amazon.com/LUYED-Lumens-12v-24v-Chipsets-Reverse/dp/B0173805LU/ref=asc_df_B0173805LU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312202698398&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13380391461260155344&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005646&hvtargid=pla-568502546622&psc=1)
That's a good suggestion, Crusarius, but I "fixed" it using an old tail light cover. It's the most significant damage to my 26 yo truck but I just couldn't make a long expensive project out of it by trying to find a B grade body shop and waiting...
It was tough steel to bend back (what little I could actually move). I've carried lots of firewood over the years and the truck got very few minor dents....until it met the barn.
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I can't even tell there was a dent now! lol
My plastic fenders are seeming like a good idea now. See my post towards the bottom of page 97 in this thread.
I think it could mostly be pulled back out into shape with a slide hammer bodywork puller. I have one that I've used for a number of other uses, but no experience with it on metal body work.
nice work. I am impressed.
Quote from: Magicman on October 10, 2021, 02:57:57 PMThe MS310's carrying case is totally destroyed. The saw's handle/throttle is really messed up but thankfully all of the saw itself is undamaged.
OK, it appears that the MS310 is not too badly damaged. It needs a new throttle trigger and air filter cover, both of which are in stock at the warehouse. These are normally less than a week items but he said to expect at least two weeks. Oh and he is also ordering me a new carrying case which is a no brainier because the old case is what protected/saved the saw and prevented catastrophic damage.
I have learned the hard way to many times to not put anything in the bucket that I cannot see. There have been to many times I was transporting something then I said oh I am going to push that brush out of the way real quick since I am driving by. next thing you know, real quick turns into 10 minutes of picking up everything you just dumped.
It's amazing how quick the mind switches from "I have a saw in the bucket" to "I'll just take care of this brush since I'm right here".
Or so I've heard. :D
After the second time we had to dig a chain out of a flight auger I told everyone that if I saw anything in the loader bucket that didn't belong there they would be fired on the spot and I meant it. I had been guilty of it myself, but it's just too easy to forget things are in there.
The accidental dumping was part of the reason I made these. I kept dumping my chains. I also added some to the quick hitch on the 3 point. Great way to store chains. and work phenomenal for lifting.
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Quote from: firefighter ontheside on October 05, 2021, 11:03:05 PM
I bid on a lot of online auctions. Sometimes I buy stuff that I can use and sometimes stuff that I will buy and re-sell. Tonight I forgot to bid on an auction I had placed initial bids on with the intent to come back as it was ending to bid on the things I wanted. This was all going to be stuff for me. There was a bunch of good woodworking stuff I wanted and some tents and other outdoor stuff I also wanted. I completely forgot to go back to the auction site tonight. I missed out on all the stuff. Well, I did win one thing I had bid on. I won a 5 gallon bucket and a trash can with some whisk brooms in it for $2. Not worth the drive to go pick it up, but since my wife drives thru there every day, she will pick it up for me. Still, I am kicking myself for forgetting. Many of the things I wanted went for just over what I was bidding.
I do this all the time! I forget more than I remember and end up losing out on some good stuff. There's a local auction site I use that allows push notifications and sends a reminder 30 mins before the first item starts closing. Handy, but they rarely have the type of things I'm looking for.
I didn't forget about the auction this time. I picked up my purchases today. My most notable purchases were a 33 gallon stand up Husky compressor for $75, a brand new in box Krek K4 pocket hole jig for $35 and a new looking 28' extrension ladder for $35.
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I didn't forget about the auction this time. I picked up my purchases today. My most notable purchases were a 33 gallon stand up Husky compressor for $75, a brand new in box Krek K4 pocket hole jig for $35 and a new looking 28' extrension ladder for $35.
I'm sure you were laughing all the way to the truck.... 8)
Nice score on the ladder!
Ok probably all three.
Last week got up before dawn in the new camper, turned on one little light over the dinette and started the coffee pot on the gas stove top.
Next I see the gas flame behaving funny then going out. Relit it seemed to work ok but was worrying if something already defective.
Then after the pot heated a while and my eyes got adjusted I saw OOPS the glass cover on the stove top was still down, between the gas flame and the coffee pot. Supposed to put it up first. Dealer told us not to put it down when the cooktop was hot or IT WILL BREAK
Frantically turned off the gas and removed the pot and hoped for the best. Seemed like I got away with it and we went for a walk.
Came back into the camper afterwards wondering about what some crud was on the floor should we be more careful with shoes.
Well it was glass from back half the stove top cover which exploded while we were gone walking. Fortunately the cat was ok since he had already tunnelled deep under the covers for his morning nap.
Got a new stovetop online but pretty clear probably better to just buy a whole new stove for parts if planning to do more things the dumb way.
At least nobody got hurt although it certainly would have got the cat's attention. I haven't to the best of my knowledge done anything dumb lately but my turn is coming and I am nervous. :D
Might not be you who is the dumb one this time! I have to wonder what the designer was thinking using glass. I know the cover protects the stove top and adds counter space when the stove isn't in use but they should have used glass that can take the heat just in case.
Quote from: Nebraska on October 19, 2021, 07:19:24 AM
Nice score on the ladder!
Ok probably all three.
Well, I'm gonna sell the ladder. One of my goals is to be able to re-sell some of the stuff I buy to pay for the stuff I actually wanted to keep.
That does seem strange to have glass like that. I would be the first one to turn on the stove without lifting the glass.
The stove should have a safety valve actuated when the lid is opened.
We had a problem with ours sticking and not allowing gas to flow to the burners.
Had to remove the stove to fix it!
Take care
Silverfox
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on October 19, 2021, 09:04:23 PM
That does seem strange to have glass like that. I would be the first one to turn on the stove without lifting the glass.
I wonder if Pyrex would have been OK. It's microwave safe and for some things you put it...it gets HOT. Like I say, just wondering.
the problem with the glass plates and the burner is the hot spots. Glass can typically handle heat without a problem. but when you heat one area you get that area expanding while the rest does not. Since glass has very little elasticity the glass cracks.
I think the issue is that this glass stove cover is and probably has to be safety glass.I know from many years of breaking Pyrex or Kimax beakers and flasks, that those are not safety glass. Sharp shards everywhere. And nothing left of my laboratory deposit. :D
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on October 19, 2021, 09:04:23 PM
That does seem strange to have glass like that. I would be the first one to turn on the stove without lifting the glass.
I'll tell my wife. You'll be the first to be invited in our camper at the next pig roast-for a closely supervised tour. :D :D
Yesterday on my way to my mobile job, I call WM to ask some questions about my axle that may be bent. The rep asked if my axle was 5 or 6 lug and to verify it w5 lug I pulled off the road and went back to look. As I was walking back to the truck, something caught my eye. It was a milk crate with my saw gas and bar oil jugs setting on the hydraulic control box of the mill. It had been riding there for about 15 miles already 🙈.
Well, you got lucky and prevented something dumb from happening.
Usually the dumb stuff I do are really a series of smaller dumb things that "synergize" into something greater than the sum of the parts.
Glad you caught the crate before it synergized! :D
I have a full size battery on my log splitter, and a full size one on my conveyor. the log splitter engine charges the batt on it, and when needed I run cables to the other batt. on the conveyor. had not run in a while, so had the cables on. they were stiff, and worked there way up next to the exhaust and melted the insulation. suddenly sparks and smoke. nearly melted the lead terminals on top of the conveyor batter. :snowball: :D these were old heavy cables my dad gave me 40 years ago. I will trim and fix. I plan to put fleet wire connectors on it.
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) that sounds like something that I would have got caught up in. Stuff happens, right?
Any body ever pick up their grapple bucket and forget to close the latches on the quick attach? Just asking...
Nope. Never heard of ANYBODY doing that! ;)
Quote from: Nebraska on October 25, 2021, 11:29:18 AM
Any body ever pick up their grapple bucket and forget to close the latches on the quick attach? Just asking...
Nope, Nobody....ever. :D :D :D ;D :embarassed:
What is this quick attach you speak of?.... Oh one day I will have one...
it is espeially great if you remembered to attach the hydraulics, and tip forward up in the air and loose the grapple. or so I have been told... :o :) :D. they only spurt fluid if you actuate the controls. :snowball:
Then there was the day I unhooked the hoses (with great difficulty and some cussing) and tried to detach the loader from the new Kubota Scut. I decided to read the instructions, there had to be an easier way. ::)
Never have had a grapple fall of the loader. Oh wait, I don't own a grapple. My bucket may or may not have fallen off because the operator forgot to latch the pins......
This thread could also be called:
" Things I've done or will if I get the chance to!!"
That's right @K-Guy (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35658) . I don't have a grapple, but if I did that would be an opportunity to put it on and forget to close the latches.
Quote from: Nebraska on October 25, 2021, 11:29:18 AM
Any body ever pick up their grapple bucket and forget to close the latches on the quick attach? Just asking...
I did that last month one Friday after work, trying to hurry to get my trailer unloaded and then get my Dad to the clinic. Thankfully, I did not tear the hydraulic lines off of the grapple/tractor. Luckily, I was able to get it back on the tractor without any damage. I was reluctant to post here about it.
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I have a power broom that runs off the Lull since I did some modification work to her, we use it to remove infill from turf. Still have a couple of things to tidy up on it but it works great. One of the things I need to do is fabricate a lock for the squirt boom as that becomes disabled when the broom runs since I used that valve port. For now we use a chain and binder to hold the boom in place. Hey - is anybody else hearing that foreshadowing music in the background right now?
Anyway I dropped the broom and put the forks back on the other day, went to extend the squirt boom to purge any air in the line - there is that impending doom music again - when two things happened at the same time. A 30-06 was discharged right over my head and struck the backup mirror and I remembered that I had not removed the chain and binder from the squirt boom so I immediately, although just a wee tad bit too late, retratcted said squirt boom. Walked over to the other side and there was my chain binder, in two pieces, along with the backup mirror in quite a few more.
Oh well, the frame of the mirror was rusty anyway and would have needed to be replaced. Can't say the same for the binder. On the bright side it seems I have good hydraulic pressure in that circuit.
:o :o I can imagine that got your attention!
I did it this morning. With a group of students heading to the National FFA Convention I was at a TSA check point in Tampa International Airport when I realized while emptying my pockets I had, out of habit, put my two bladed Case hunter knife in my pocket.
I really did not want to part with it and had already checked my bags so putting it in them was not an option. I explained my transgression to the friendly TSA fellow and he helped me get it packaged and in the mail back to my home address. $22 gladly spent. The knife was a gift from my oldest daughter and my only grandson.
This was all before 6 a.m. The day is still young. Doing dumb things often hurts or is expensive. Sometimes it is both.
Southside, your Lull incident seems like something I'd do.
No equipment got damaged on this one, although one of my ribs is either cracked or bruised now; Needed just a little container to put just a little herbicide in for just one little itty bitty job-didn't want or need whole jug. Was at city garage looking in garbage cans-actually these large plastic recycling containers-and spied what I needed down at the bottom-someone's used coke bottle.
Leaned over the side and finger tips could just barely touch the bottle, so of course, I hoisted my trunk up over the edge, putting all my weight down on one small spot on my chest, to reach said item at bottom of can.
Guess you shouldn't do that lol!
Hoping there wont be a post coming about the coke bottle with herbicide in it. :'( :D
I can't imagine. A little search proved I don't have to! :D
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Caveman, I did that for five years ago add an airport, last year my daughters college graduation. But neither of mine had sentimental value. I was always told, if you have your britches on you need to have a knife in your pocket, And I do.
Quote from: Southside on October 26, 2021, 12:03:40 AM
I have a power broom that runs off the Lull since I did some modification work to her, we use it to remove infill from turf. Still have a couple of things to tidy up on it but it works great. One of the things I need to do is fabricate a lock for the squirt boom as that becomes disabled when the broom runs since I used that valve port. For now we use a chain and binder to hold the boom in place. Hey - is anybody else hearing that foreshadowing music in the background right now?
Anyway I dropped the broom and put the forks back on the other day, went to extend the squirt boom to purge any air in the line - there is that impending doom music again - when two things happened at the same time. A 30-06 was discharged right over my head and struck the backup mirror and I remembered that I had not removed the chain and binder from the squirt boom so I immediately, although just a wee tad bit too late, retratcted said squirt boom. Walked over to the other side and there was my chain binder, in two pieces, along with the backup mirror in quite a few more.
Oh well, the frame of the mirror was rusty anyway and would have needed to be replaced. Can't say the same for the binder. On the bright side it seems I have good hydraulic pressure in that circuit.
To add to that: I was chaining the squirt boom up the other day after putting the broom on and couldn't find the binder. I went over to Southside at the milking shed to ask where it was........got the story. He could have fibbed on the mirror. The back of it was Swiss cheese and the glass could have just fallen out. I've wanted to replace that man killer binder with a ratchet one anyway. ;D
Wud
I drove flatbed semi for years, I had a "snap" binder on a load someone else chained down almost break my fingers one time when I tried to unhook it. We'd have guys putting a 5' pipe on the end of the snap handle, and just about rip the side rail off the trailer from being so tight. Every load I would secure would have ratchet binders on it. Period.
So to add to the add that Wudman did when I hooked up the power broom I connected the hydraulic lines to themselves not to the broom, so no power to the broom. This was before breaking the binder.
Ball is in your court @Wudman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=624) :D
Something in the water down there where you 2 are?? lol lol :)
Quote from: Southside on October 26, 2021, 01:52:06 PM
So to add to the add that Wudman did when I hooked up the power broom I connected the hydraulic lines to themselves not to the broom, so no power to the broom. This was before breaking the binder.
Ball is in your court @Wudman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=624) :D
Broom to cylinder......Broom to power.....The hoses connected. Guess they need to be idiot proofed. ::) ::)
We find a guy to play the role of Curly and we have ourselves a tribute show. :D
Quote from: Southside on October 26, 2021, 02:21:45 PM
We find a guy to play the role of Curly and we have ourselves a tribute show. :D
There's more than a few guys here that could line up for that casting call. Just sayin'
Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! Whoob-whoob-whoob! laugh_at smiley_clown smiley_jester smiley_mad_crazy
So I went home for lunch and went out to the mill for bit, just to set up in case i can mill this evening...Found out I set the last log on the mill about four inches too far over for clamping it correctly. Not a big deal.... but I took the grapple bucket off again... ::)
Quote from: Wudman on October 26, 2021, 01:56:46 PM
Quote from: Southside on October 26, 2021, 01:52:06 PMGuess they need to be idiot proofed. ::) ::)
Dad used to say "as soon as something is made idiot proof, they just come out with a better class of idiot".
Careful what ya ask for; ya just might get it :-\.
I noticed how many replies this post has had. I compared it to the next few pages in the sawmilling topic and its as far as I can tell, it has way more than any other.
I conclude either sawmillers do a lot of dumb things or are one of the few honest enough to admit it....
If you don't do something dumb once in a while, you probably aren't doing much at all. I think folks here are just humble enough to admit that and also hope to save others from repeating certain mistakes. The exceptions to this are the natural rites of passage such as milling backstops and putting a chain on backwards, which we all admit are pretty much required. Still, I am also quite certain there are some things we have all done that nobody is willing to share here. Well, not me, but some folks. :D ;D
We know that Murphy follows all of us around and at any given time will remind us of his primary law and subsequent corollaries. It can happen to anyone of us at anytime. This thread is a but meager defense against that infernal man and his laws.
Thankfully, we mostly have both a great sense of humor for our own mistakes and for what of ourselves we see in others. Most importantly we do have some empathy for our brothers and sisters when something dumb causes some pain.
Quote from: SawyerTed on October 27, 2021, 09:06:20 AM
.......Most importantly we do have some empathy for our brothers and sisters when something dumb causes some pain.
I find it interesting and telling the wya in which yu chose to phrase that. Quite true though. In fact sometimes I read these and as I am grimacing and tightening my groin I also have tears of laughter on my cheeks. (Mostly because I had already make that mistake myself and could now share in the 'glory.')
Quote from: Tacotodd on October 26, 2021, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Wudman on October 26, 2021, 01:56:46 PM
Quote from: Southside on October 26, 2021, 01:52:06 PMGuess they need to be idiot proofed. ::) ::)
Dad used to say "as soon as something is made idiot proof, they just come out with a better class of idiot".
Thanks for enlightening me to the fact that there are classes of idiots. I always thought they were pretty much from the same mold.
GAB
Quote from: SawyerTed on October 27, 2021, 09:06:20 AM
We know that Murphy follows all of us around and at any given time will remind us of his primary law and subsequent corollaries. It can happen to anyone of us at anytime.
Especially when tired, in a hurry, or have an audience.
I had an audience member once ask in front of a group of spectators if the logs had been sustainably harvested.
My reply, (loud enough for all to hear) was these are logs from trees that came down during hurricane Irene. This is a salvage operation. Salvage what you can. He left not looking back as I was looking at him as the others in the group were also.
GAB
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on October 26, 2021, 03:20:47 PMThere's more than a few guys here that could line up for that casting call. Just sayin'
Are you volunteering??? smiley_blue_bounce
From one of my old sergeants years ago
" If you are doing something even if it's wrong, you are still doing something."
GAB, I broke up reading that!! :D I wonder if he is from BC, I am surrounded by the enviro wackos.
Quote from: sawguy21 on October 27, 2021, 11:43:47 AM
GAB, I broke up reading that!! :D I wonder if he is from BC, I am surrounded by the enviro wackos.
Glad to hear it made part of your day.
In answer to your question: I have no idea where he was from. He asked one question and I answered it. He left and left me with the audience watching the sawing.
GAB
Quote from: K-Guy on October 27, 2021, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on October 26, 2021, 03:20:47 PMThere's more than a few guys here that could line up for that casting call. Just sayin'
Are you volunteering??? smiley_blue_bounce
No thank you. I don't have any time for volunteer work these days. :D
Actually I am probably as qualified as the next guy, but I am done with 'performance work' for a while.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on October 27, 2021, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: K-Guy on October 27, 2021, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on October 26, 2021, 03:20:47 PMThere's more than a few guys here that could line up for that casting call. Just sayin'
Are you volunteering??? smiley_blue_bounce
No thank you. I don't have any time for volunteer work these days. :D
Actually I am probably as qualified as the next guy, but I am done with 'performance work' for a while.
OG:
Hang in there your next opportunity is just around the corner.
You may not notice it at first but soon you will realize it.
GAB
I must be slipping, I've fit into this topic twice now in about a week.
We're in the process of getting electricity pulled into our place. Last night I was digging the trench to lay conduit from the house to the meter base. There is a section that is pretty steep and I was backing down with the blade downhill. I was about half way down the hill and needed to move again, I lifted the blade and moved about a foot. Apparently there was a hump and the move was enough to break over and over backwards I started to go. I tried to reach out and down with the boom but it was to late and I was going for a ride. I had my seatbelt on and grabbed the oh crap bars. I went straight over backwards, then flopped over on the right side. Got the engine shut off and went to get the skiddy to flip the excavator back on its feet. All in all, I'm extremely lucky to have not gotten hurt and there was no damage to the excavator.
Wow! Glad you and the equipment are ok! I imagine your britches weren't!
Whoa. I'm glad you are able to tell us this story. No seatbelt and you may not have been around to tell the tale.
Glad your OK. Check all the fluids are good yet, might want to tether off a cable like a shovel logging machine on a slope next time. ;D
Finally got around to fixing it, the other day:
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It came with a whole new harness but I just plugged the bulbs from the old one into the new lens.
Jim Rogers
Thank you! I was able to finish the trench this morning. Started by smoothing out that hump and made darned sure to keep the bucket close to the ground.
WOW! lucky.
I'm cutting wood next to the road. I park the tractor sideways and I ran the cable down to a tree. I got on the the tractor and parked it in the road to winch the tree to me to get a straight pull. This way I can see if someone is on the road. It's a dead end dirt road, but gets a lot of traffic. I did this 3 times today. I start to winch and somehow the cable was under the winch. Did not notice until I hear an odd noise and the end results was a frayed cable. Got about 2 feet of it. Looks like I will lose about 20 feet. I guess I will check to see where the cable is from now on.
Quote from: Crossroads on October 31, 2021, 03:48:13 PM
Thank you! I was able to finish the trench this morning. Started by smoothing out that hump and made darned sure to keep the bucket close to the ground.
Man, you got lucky! Glad yu are ok, I assume the machine is too. That was scary.
Glad you're ok Kevin.
Thank you! I got the conduit all in this afternoon and will bury it in the morning, so I have 1 more trip down that hill. Seatbelt on and keep the boom low!
Yikes scary ride and very fortunate end.
Wow! 3.5 weeks without a post here. That may be a record. Mine aren't Earth shattering so I'll add 2 for one.
Last week I changed the 6v battery on my deer feeder with a recharged one and stuck the old one in my coat pocket for the trip back down the mountain on my ATV. When I got off I smelled ozone or such and thought maybe it was the brakes on my ATV till I noticed my right coat pocket was smoking. I pulled the battery out and one of the spring type poles had completely melted free. There went about $15 bucks down the drain. I don't know if the 2 poles touched in my pocket or they touched my loaded magazine for my 7600 30-06 Remington pump or one of the spare bullets I had in there. I did not see any marks on the mag or any of the bullets.
Then yesterday I shot a pretty little spike buck out of my upper (Chipmunk house) shooting house. It is 6' square with open windows on all 4 sides but I guess in the past I always eased the tip of the rifle barrel out and rested it on the window sill. Because of the angle (and a 15 yard shot) I did not need to do that this time. Boy did my ears ring after that. (I confess - I don't wear hearing protection when hunting. I use them religiously when sawing and practice shooting but not when hunting.)
Yeah that's hard on ears!
Huuhh? What'd you say?
What? What?
Here's my contribution. ;D A grease gun on a brake caliper bleed screw is pretty dumb. ::)
Gotta keep those brakes greased...
Wow, it has been a while since anyone posted. I've been too busy doing dumb things to have time to post about it.
Howard, I'm going to tell on you to my wife...the audiologist.
I've been busy making hardwood flooring in my shop the last 3.5 weeks. I had a near miss with my table saw when my push stick came in contact with the blade. My hand was no where near the blade, but it sure did give my hand a kick when the push stick touched it. I've been using the table saw to cut the flooring square on the ends. It goes much faster than using the miter saw, but then I'm left with little chunks of wood next to the blade and I use the plastic push stick to push them away.
FFOTS,
Does she teach sign language? :D
Be careful with those table saws. My left hand still hurts when I bump it and the arthritis is present there now after my incident with one and that was over a year and a half ago. ::)
Her sign language is a little rusty, but she does know it.
I bought a saw stop about 3 years ago, so dumb mistakes should only cost me money and not fingers.
Get her some Jergens Lotion. ;D
I'm shuddering, I left a finger tip on a table saw. :-\
Oh no! I hope you're alright @sawguy21 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1763)
I did that many years ago and never forgot the lesson.
Quote from: sawguy21 on November 26, 2021, 10:51:23 PM
I did that many years ago and never forgot the lesson.
Your a quick study, huh? I hope I can say the same.
An astute and knowledgeable person should get rid of the old finger/hand removing tablesaw and get a SawStop :). Life is short and you need all fingers and hands to best get through it.
Years go, when Sawstops were kind of new, we would have cutovers come in with mixed opinions, some not even liking them, some saying they were too expensive, and were unpredictable, and would trip accidentally, etc.
These days, things have changed. I bet I get a customer every few months who comes in and tells a story of how the Sawstop tripped and saved them a drive to the hospital. Only one person so far has said it even caused them to bleed, and that was just a few drops. So although I don't have one, if I was going to buy a saw tomorrow, it would be one.
I have solved the problem totally. I don't even own a table saw anymore, I sold it about two years go.
Not only are they safe but they truly are a very nice solid well built machine!!!
I have two radial arm saws and a one table saw. So far i have not come close to having
been hurt. I am very careful when using them. the only saw i have that I am real careful with
is my 12" miter saw.
Radial arm saws have gone the way of the dinosaur, I think for safety reasons as much as anything. Compared to now when all you see are sliding compound miter saws with a full plastic blade guards, and blades that only run when your hand is on the trigger. When I started out in construction many years ago, radial arms caused more than one serious digit subtraction injury that I knew of. And guys trying to rip boards, then having them kickback and shoot wood through walls and windows. :o
I'd love to have a good ol' radial arm saw. I think it'd change the way I do things a lot but they are pretty sketchy. The only one I really remember seeing but never using was at my buddy's mill. He (his dad) had about 20 feet on either side of it to, presumably, load and resaw giant boards. Looks pretty cool. Sadly, I missed out on when he sold all his equipment, it'd been sweet to get some of it.
No disrespect to those that get in trouble but I prefer to keep my digits out of the way!
Let's, from now on, as an entire website community, keep our bodies out of the way of spinny, cutty things!
I absolutely do not miss the radial arm saws that were common on construction sites when I started as a teenager. If we're comparing them to dinosaurs they're the T-Rex , just as soon eat you as look at you...
My dad, a shop teacher, had one for years without mishap and it cut a lot of wood. It had a funky cam action motor brake that failed early on, probably jammed, so he took it off although normally he was very safety conscious. It was a long time before I was allowed to use it unsupervised. He did wick a finger on the jointer though.
I have a 10" Craftsmen radial arm saw built into a table at the end of my lumber storage shed and it is a great tool. I salvage a lot of short boards off pieces I used to waste, cut my stickers to length, cut customer boards to fit inside their SUV and such. It is as handy as a pocket on a shirt. They are readily available around here on Craigslist and local trader papers. I have great respect for it and have never come close to getting hurt with it unlike that nasty table saw. And in all honesty it was totally my fault when I got hurt on it 18 months ago.
A long, long time ago (mid 60s), we had two shop teachers in my junior high school. One was missing half a finger, and it wasn't the wood shop teacher. Apparently presses can be dangerous too.
Oh, I see old radial arm saws for sale cheap on CL all the time, but you don't see new ones for sale in the big box stores. Any saw is inherently dangerous, always up to the user to use caution.
Depending on the slab, I'll cut it to length with my Stihl chainsaw for a customer, or the skilsaw if it's not too thick or want a cleaner cut. My best repeat customer let me use his battery powered circular saw for some projects on his new house. I'd like to get one of those, as it was handy as a shirt pocket.
I have a 12" dewalt and a 10" sears radial arm saw. I would never try to rip on eather one.
That is what a table saw is for. We use the radial arm to cut down lumber for customers or
for our own wood working.
Resonator,
I bought a 6-1/2" battery powered circular saw at HF a month or so back and used it cutting up stickers and cutting the taper off edged boards and such and I have been well pleased with it.
Originally I thought a sawstop was a waste of money for someone who was good with a saw and knew how to prevent injury. Then when I started thinking I wanted a 3hp cabinet saw, I learned that the price of sawstop was inline with all the other 3hp saws. It just made sense to get sawstop while upgrading.
Quote from: sawwood on November 27, 2021, 12:06:13 PM
I have a 12" dewalt and a 10" sears radial arm saw. I would never try to rip on eather one.
That is what a table saw is for.
wife knows the radial saws and harleys are first to go when i croak, proceeds toward a disney trip for the grandkids.
if the saws and bikes are gone neither can injure someone here.
the most dangerous pilots are under 100 hours or over 500. to little experience or too much confidence. :)
Quotethe most dangerous pilots are under 100 hours or over 500. to little experience or too much confidence.
Same goes for truck drivers, growing complacent is a danger. Also in the safety meetings they had a chart with probabilities, the more drivers there are, the more statistics go up for a "1 in a 100" or "1 in a 1000" etc. incident.
My youngest son is an art major at MIddle Tn State. He is home this weekend.
He shared that his first trip to the "shop" with one of his classes was scary as hell. Basically, the kids were given "be careful, this stuff is dangerous" speech and then sent out on their own. No real instruction on any given machine.
Of course, he was recognizing the dangerous situations because of his experience in my shop.
There are plenty of things I still do for him in the shop...Mostly table saw related. And I have a SawStop!
I need to spend lots of time with both of the boys training them up more intentionally. Mostly, I would show them specific things as it relates to their given projects.
OK, color me as the 'old guy' here and you can sling your arrows all you want, but I never understood this fear of radial arm saws. In the 70's this was the first production piece of equipment I ran and I probably put 10,000 BF a month through that saw. Although ripping with it was not my favorite thing to do and there would be an occasional kickback, I never had a single injury or even a bruise that I can recall. The first woodworking tool I bought at my first house was an RAS and I got a lot of work done with it. I still have it and I still use it often, but again, ripping is better done on the TS. I do like running rabbets thru it, it's really quick.
I think the TS is more likely to hurt me than the RAS. Sorry, I just don't get it. I probably never will, it's a privledge of getting old, I can stick with what I like and trust. ;D :D YMMV
Sounds like, though I don't have the space for a RAS, I need to look on CL for one.
I went to Lowes today with the intention of buying a Milwaukee cordless circular saw but the only red they carry seems to be new school Craftsman now and I was hoping to be able to swap batteries with my Milwaukee grease gun. So instead I walked out with a kobalt compound miter saw to replace a pretty crappy harbor freight miter saw. I didn't think to look at reviews or anything while I was in the store, so hopefully it's decent but I'm happy with a few other kobalt tools I have.
Home depot is milwaukee.
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) We had a saying in the aircraft industry which you have probably heard. There are old pilots and old pilots but there are no old, bold pilots. The worst period seemed to be 600 to 1100 hours, if they could get through that without breaking something and hurting or killing themselves they would probably be alright.
I have a right angle Milwaukee 18V circular saw, I am not joking when I say it will whoop a corded saw, that thing is amazing. I guess I am kind of in the same camp as OG. I completely understand the value of a saw stop, but at the same time I grew up jumping on bulls backs in a pasture without a rope, riding a bike without a helmet, and engaging in BB gun fights - no head shots was always the rule. Smart? No, not always, but we survived and learned how to recognize hazards as a result.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on November 27, 2021, 06:59:34 PMI never understood this fear of radial arm saws.
RAS are safe as long as they are properly aligned and set up. You also need to use the anti-kickback pawls for ripping and ripping types of procedures.
any tool that can do many machining procedures, is not going be as good and safe at all of them. A RAS looks like it should be pulled through a cut but the blade then pulls it in. my dad usually pushed into the cut. the wood is in between the motor and table, so like a chop saw, it can be violent if it gets in a bind. It would actually not be a bad solution for slab flattening. Dads had a drill chuck on it, it was a Craftsman, and I was 3 when he brought it home.
RAS need a low hook blade. Steve
I shot an arrow of a ripping off a RAS right across a doorway barely in front of one of the bosses as he was walking in one day, smooooth :D. That shop had switched to Whirlwinds for cutoff and I went through a heap of about 30 old Delta RAS's they had worn out to get enough parts to make 2 functional ones for little jobs. Where the Craftsmans have replaceable tracks, the Deltas run in grooves machined in the arm. The groove in the cut zone on those old Deltas was wallowed. If I set it to proper fit at the end of stroke the head was sloppy in the normal cut area. The ones I slapped together were very snug up front to get tolerable in the normal cut area. Getting the head snug on the rails and tracking well is a biggie, don't let it bounce around on loose or worn tracks. Besides aggressive hook angle, an uncontrolled heavy bite is what usually throws stuff or makes the saw want to run over the work.
I've got Dad's Craftsman that came home about the same time Doc. I think I know someone that has been bitten by every one of the saws mentioned except the sawstop. Machines are not safe. I think the only reason I don't have one is pretty humorous and sure helps me understand some current mindsets. After the inventor came up with the saw he then went to lawmakers and tried to have them require it on all tablesaws. Good idea or not, and it is a great saw, that rubbed me wrong. I wonder at what point I'll pull my head out of ::).
I grew up using a RAS and dad never said, "this thing is inherently dangerous". As @ladylake (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=633) said, you should have low hook angle on it to help prevent the rotation of the saw pulling the saw toward you too fast. I think that's the main risk with the saw. If the blade binds, then the saw gets pulled toward you. If your fingers are in the wrong place, they get run over. I never used the saw to rip though.
Now if you want to talk about a tool that will keep your hand eye dexterity keen and quick, there is always the good old swing saw. :D
Quote from: sawguy21 on November 26, 2021, 10:51:23 PM
I did that many years ago and never forgot the lesson.
An old friend of mine (and Grandfather's as he was a fishing/hunting buddy), lost 3 finger tips, in 3 incidents. :-\
I don't have anything to add today. I just wanted to celebrate about 3 weeks without doing anything dumb enough to share 😁
I'd have to be locked in a closet for 6 months to get 3 whole weeks without doing something dumb, and for sure, those weeks would no be in a row :D. Good on ya!
This morning my little 10 lb dog wouldn't come when I called the dogs back inside. With the little dog it can be a little scary since a coyote or bobcat or other scary beasts could carry him off. I figured that hadn't happened since the big dog didn't bark. I went out in the yard calling him and he came out from under a bush and appeared to be eating something and had something hanging from his mouth. I grabbed him and pulled something from his mouth. What do you do with that something...well you smell it of course. I almost threw up in the yard. Then I had to give the dog a bath. My advice for today is to assume it's poop and don't smell it.
My dogs favorite outside treat seems to be frogs and we have good supply of them for him. I quit saying anything about it because then the wife would expect me to do something about it. ??? ;D
Lol, oh that's nasty! When we moved to Idaho, our property was pretty wild with a high population of critters. Out little rat dog would take off down the dirt road barking like he owned the place. I told my wife that if he keeps that up, he's gonna be coyote poop and I started calling him coyote poop. Well, we're going on our 4th winter and coyote poop is still running up and down the driveway barking like the boss.
My little furbag eats poop if I don't watch her carefully. She is getting better, probably tired of me yelling at her, but needs frequent reinforcement.
My wife asked the vet one time if the dogs pick up anything from deer poop because they are sure big fans. "No, I call them raisins of the woods :D"
Put a new chain on the chainsaw. I released the brake, or thought I did. Did it twice just to make sure. It came off hard, which I thought was odd. Took the wrench to get it off. Put the bar and chain back on and went to put the side plate on and would not go on. On the 450e husky the handle stays on the saw and the metal brake stays on the side plate. After trying to get it to line up so I could release the brake for the third time, ::) I got it after 3-4 trys. There everything is back on and I head out to cut some trees down. I start to cut the notch and nothing. And I mean nothing. I shut the saw off and headed for the tractor to put the chain on the correct way. ::) Never even looked at it, I knew what was wrong. Yes, I have put them on backwards a few times, but never tried to cut a tree that way.
Quote from: thecfarm on November 29, 2021, 09:18:25 PM
Put a new chain on the chainsaw. I released the brake, or thought I did. Did it twice just to make sure. It came off hard, which I thought was odd. Took the wrench to get it off. Put the bar and chain back on and went to put the side plate on and would not go on. On the 450e husky the handle stays on the saw and the metal brake stays on the side plate. After trying to get it to line up so I could release the brake for the third time, ::) I got it after 3-4 trys. There everything is back on and I head out to cut some trees down. I start to cut the notch and nothing. And I mean nothing. I shut the saw off and headed for the tractor to put the chain on the correct way. ::) Never even looked at it, I knew what was wrong. Yes, I have put them on backwards a few times, but never tried to cut a tree that way.
Wishing you a quick recovery from your bruised ego episode.
GAB
Just follow the instructions :P
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So far it's only taken me twice to learn the "chains on backwards" lesson.
JJ, those instructions are great!
"Installation insert wooden teeth". What wooden teeth?! :D
When I first bought my new house 17 years ago it came with a dish washer know it all me if you put dawn dish sope in it the dishes would get real clean :o.
The way that thing was fomeing at the mouth I thought I was gonna have to shoot it now I store pots and pans in it
I made that mistake too, soap suds started coming up out of the kitchen sink drain too lol
OK, my turn in the barrel (again). So yesterday I am milling an ugly log that might have been better used as fuel in the OWB but either way its gone now. Anyway, I was really focused on trying to get a useable 12x12 cant out of this log for the 1x12's on an order. I was dealing with a lot of non-log-like characteristics especially on the opening cut. I thought I had the log set so everything would clear on that cut but as I got about 5' down the log I could see where a branch stub would hit the column. So I stopped right there and grabbed the saw and whacked off several nubs, just to be sure. That was easy because the head was not too close yet, I had room to work. I went back and sighted it again and had good clearance. So I fired it up and let er rip. The head went another 4' and stopped moving. I turned up the feed a little...nothing. So I stopped and looked all around for interference. I mean ALL around and could find nothing. I literally scratched my head, looked again, nothing. (I will note here that I am sometimes (ok, often) an idiot and should really have remembered that.) So I could think of no other option and powered up the blade and tried to back it up for a better look. I was thinking something inside the log was a problem. I was wrong (yeah, BIG surprise there). I did drive a wedge between the slab and the log to try and make a gap but when i backed up, the blade popped off. Actually I thought it broke, but it didn't and as it was due for a change anyway, I did that. But first, I discovered my real issue. To wit:
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Yeah, that's not a good photo, what you (can't) see there is one of those nubs I cut off fell onto the flex chain and wedged under the control box on the head. Maybe this photo will make it clearer after I backed the head off a few feet:
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So once again, all by myself, I made me feel like an idiot. ( I have skills in that regard.) Nobody saw it, but I did take photos, so it did happen. I wonder if I will ever stop discovering new ways to make stupid mistakes. I don't know if that's possible, but I can hope. I sometimes say 'if you're not making mistakes, you're not doing anything worthwhile', I just wish I didn't keep proving that point. Someday I will get good at this. Someday.
By the way, I did get that 12x12 out of that log and I am slightly proud out that because it was not assured, I worked for that and got lucky. I also got some nice 1x12's and a few that are just fine for shop sheathing. Not bad for a firewood log, but it took too much time.
My dumb move for today seems to be having my electric trailer brakes set too tight or at least I think that is the cause. After a 100 mile trip today I saw excessive wear on both trailer tires on the mill that was not there before. I'll be bringing it home tomorrow and need to be sure to check them before I pull out of the customer's lot.
Yeah that could be pricey. Tires AND brake pads. Gotta check them EVRY time you hookup. DANG that sucks.
I had the trailer serviced about 50 hours ago so the brakes should be good but if I cranked down the setting too much on on these curvy mountain roads...
At work we'd categorize this as a near miss and it'd go into next week's safety meeting slide deck. Never done this before and hopefully never will again. Never felt scared running a saw before either, did for a minute after this though.
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Not the greatest picture, I'm sure you guys can see I tore into my chaps pretty good though. I wear them religiously, even if it's cutting a lone nub off a saw log. Force of habit. Unfortunately, I am not wasn't always diligent when it comes to fastening the clips behind my knees. Came back to bite me today, or the chaps anyway. Was debarking a saw log with a log wizard mounted on an ms230, standing at an awkward angle and didn't take a step back to make room for the saw. Brought it in too close and the chain caught the inside of the chaps next to my right knee. Not sure what the outcome would have been if I'd buckled the chaps properly, pretty sure what would've happened if the chaps weren't on though.
The ms230 and the debarker attached to it were fine after I cleaned all the fibers out. I'll hold onto the chaps as a reminder of how close is too close.
Glad you’re okay and thanks for sharing(despite the circumstances), reminds us all to remain humble and vigilant while running saws. I had a extreme kick back with the 500i yesterday and luckily my thumb and fingers were properly rapped around the handle and not just sitting in my palm.
I hope the chaps got a hug and a kiss! :D I did that when I was a newb except no chaps, if not for the lump of keys or change in my pocket I would have really torn up my leg. Didn't do that again!
WOW, 2 whole weeks and everybody has been good. Christmas must be coming. ;D
I guess it's back to my turn....again.
So Thursday I started bucking up some firewood late in the day and when I quit at dark I just set the gas and oil jugs in front of the shop door so they were out of the way, but I brought the saw in the shop in case of overnight rain. Friday I didn't get ack to it until the mid-afternoon and I needed to move the splitter and re-position the trailer. So I went right into the shop, slid open the garage door and jumped in the mule to back it out and quickly close the door before I lost too much heat. Well, as I baked out there was a bit of a thump. I missed the gas jug but ran squarely over the oil jug. Messed up the jug pretty good, but it didn't explode. The screw cap held and still works, so I got lucky but boy that was stupid.
a long time ago I started using gear lube bottles for my bar and chain oil. makes filling the saw a clean breeze!!!
At the time I started using them I used to do alot of rockcrawling. Well, east coast rock crawling has alot of water and mud. My diffs were always turning to chocolate milk. So I had a few bottles laying around.
I painted one red and thats my bar oil now.
Back when I used to actually park my truck in the garage, I backed in and went inside. The next day I came out and saw that I had parked on the end of the chainsaw case with the saw in it. Luckily it was the 18" saw and I had only parked on the end of the bar cover. I squished the end of of the cover, but did not actually get the bar.
Today my dumbness involved setting my track saw track to two different measurements. That did not go well when I took the pieces to the tablesaw to cut the pieces down more. All my shelves were trapezoids instead of squares.
Awwh, that's just a new fancy shelf assembly technique. They probably turned out like that rocking chair..
Crusarius, that is a good idea for the chain oil. Don't know how many times I have run the chain oil over.
super easy to pour to. I know for me its nicer to run over a gear lube bottle than a gallon :)
The squirt top off of a gear lube 'bottle' will fit on a quart oil 'can', at least mine does.
Magicman, you are correct, as long as 'can' means plastic bottle :)
Yup, and as soon as they reduce a 'quart' of oil like they did a 'pound' of coffee we are all screwed. ::)
I have used both a squirt lube bottle as well as a spray bottle for my sawmill ATF as long as I have had the sawmill. The squirt bottle works much better oiling the chains.
Well since it was my dumb move that started this, yeah, I like that idea, but I have no problem with filling from the gallon just rarely spill a drop. I switched to the gallon jug a couple of years back because it seemed like those quart bottles would ways run empty at the wrongest time they could. Also, it's cheaper by the gallon But I do like the idea of those squirt bottles on the sawmill chain. That's a keeper for me, thanks.
OH, and inmy case, no matter what the bottle size was, I would have still run it over. I may be a boob, but I am an accurate boob. :D
I did something dumb! I'm moving a log pile I have to make way for the barn build.
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All that went well, other than bending one of my clamp-on forks, and I managed to get it all done. Then I had some scoops of dirt and grass that were coming out of that same pile. I have a hole over by the creek to fill so I took a couple loads over an dumped it, no problem. Next I went straddling the hole to back-drag it and that's where it went wrong. The sides of the hole are too wet and I start sinking, bad. I monkeyed around for a bit and got the backhoe buried deep enough that my front axle was probably 8 inches buried, back wheels about half buried and I'm just sitting on the belly of the hoe. Hmm... The ground everywhere is wet enough so I was just digging holes instead of being able to drag myself out, so I try a chain. I proceeded to break the chain two times and I was still stuck. I stopped and looked at it for a while assuming I was going to have to shovel out by hand or concede that the backhoe lived in that hole forever more.
Welp, I gave it another go, using the hoe to raise the back side up and shift over an inch or two, then put down the stabilizers to hold me there. Then put the loader side into the mud which, luckily got enough purchase to raise the front wheels a bit. I shuffled my way out like that for probably an hour and a half and finally got it to where my back wheels were on solidish ground. Next I reached out with the hoe as far as I could and ended up having to face forward to drive backwards while reaching behind me to operate the hoe side pulling myself out. I got a good scoop of dirt which actually helped by making the machine do a wheelie and the front wheels were up out of the hole by several inches and I finally got myself out.
I wasn't smart enough to take a picture of the bad side, it was probably 8-12 inches deeper than this side. I got lucky. This is the third time I've gotten very good and stuck in this same area of the yard.
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It's the end of December that ground should have some frost in it by now.
Pretty minor faux pas for me but while replacing the bracket and bolt/shaft for my roller guide on my mill I dropped my allen wrench used to tighten the set screws. Of course I couldn't drop it on the ground - I had to drop it dead center into the uncovered 3" X 3" front landing gear. Fortunately I had one of those telescopic magnets used to retrieve dropped tools and nuts and such and I was barely able to reach far enough inside to catch it and I was finally able to retrieve it.
I did something similar yesterday. The last 2 weeks the ground in the yard has been pretty firm, but the warmup combined with a day opf rain on Saturday softened it up more than I thought.
So I drove the Mule into the yard pulling the trailer with about 1,500 lbs of firewood on it and thought mu belt was slipping, but it turned out the be the tires on greasy grass and mud. I made quite a mess out of the lawn and it will stay that way until May at which time I will have to do a lot of rolling.
Howard, you have great aim! That ain't easy to do. About 25 years ago I was servicing a big CNC vertical mill working up on top of the column about 12' off the deck. I knocked my favorite antique adjustable wrench down the column hole. Try as I might, there was no retrieving it. It's still there.
When I had my 2wd backhoe I got real good at lifting and dragging myself out of mud and deep snow. Even with my 4wd tractor I keep planks and beams handy at all times to put under the wheels and get back out.
If you switch oils make sure you relabel those oil jugs, if it was my luck I'd put 80-90 gear lube in my chainsaw and cold weather bar oil in my axle. :D
That is why I painted one of the bottles red. The paint has definitely worn over the years but is still obvious. and I do not keep them in the same areas.
I have done plenty of dumb things in my time, I do my best to prevent me from doing them when I am in a hurry!
Backhoe stuck? A great time to learn to "walk" on the buckets.
Push down on the front bucket in the dump position (not quite all the way) then lift rear with the back bucket then at the same time push back with the front bucket as you pull with the rear.
Oh and try not to flip yourself over.
Hard to do with modern hoe with pilot controls because it take 2 hands to control the dipper and boom which leaves no hand left to run the front bucket.
Hilltop, that was close to what I ended up doing. I didn't think to try to push backward with the loader bucket as much as just lift the front wheels out of the mud. I'll have to give that a try sometime.
And for real on the not flipping yourself over. I felt like the bottom of my back tires were off the ground like 4 feet but I don't really know, I just know it was scary!
I never tried it, but I know there are pro operators who can "climb" a backhoe onto or off of a trailer without using ramps. :o
like this guy?
Loading a Backhoe into the truck. - YouTube (https://youtu.be/aZ3giHTk710)
Yes, but their pins don't have any play in them. 😁
If my ramps keep gaining weight I might try loading mine in my dump trailer soon!!! :D
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Yes, but their pins don't have any play in them. 😁
Yet!
I can't imagine! That's so scary! He's driving it back off! Here, when I'm lifted just a foot or two and I feel the machine rocking side to side I get nervous.
Another no cost, no damage but still dumb move. I decided to see if I could go harvest an archery deer and try out my new sausage stuffer so I rode my beat up ATV up to the East gate and walked to my original shooting house. I sat in it a couple hours with no volunteers to become a target and then replaced the deer feeder battery and shook the remaining corn down so it will feed out a few more days then I walked back over and got on my ATV. It would not turn over and I could not pull start it so I got on and pushed off and rode it down to the front gate about 400 yards away at the edge of the yard near where we park our trucks. I came back later and opened the gate and pushed off and rode it another 25-30 yards to a spot where I could load it on a trailer easily. I got to checking for a loose wire or such but no luck. Then I remembered the little yellow button, the kill switch, on the left handle and pushed it to the left. Yep, it fired right up. I guess I had bumped it shorting it out from future cranking. They sure crank and run better when the kill switch is off. ::)
Don't feel bad Howard, at least it sounds like it was all downhill headed home.
I got hoodwinked in a similar fashion back in the early spring. Neighbor calls me and says he can't start his ATV. SInce it had been running badly a few weeks earlier I had brought it up and cleaned the carb and serviced it for him with a new plug and filters. Turned out he had not followed my instructions and ran ethanol gas in it. He doesn't run it much, so it sits. One tank of gas could last him a season easily. so after cleaning it all up and running it around on the roads to blow it out all was good. When he called 2 weeks later, he had assumed I 'did something'. SO I went down and tried it, couldn't start it. So we towed it up to the shop, but I was bust so let it set for another day. In the meantime my son stopped by, saw it in the shop and asked why it was there. I told him, he climbed on, flipped off the kill switch and started it right up. I had never looked at that, always shut it off with the ignition. SO next day I brought it back and said it was go to go, then taught him about the kill switch. I still don't think he really knows what non-ethanol gas is. :D
In a similar vain- My FIL gave us a wood splitter, I'd used it a few times, successfully, then put it in the shed. A few months go by and I drag it out of the shed to split some wood. I proceed to pull the pull-start and pull the pull-start and pull the pull-start. I'm getting a chug but it never fires up. I thought I was going to rip my shoulder out. Eventually, I remembered there's a fuel cutoff. It's amazing how easy it was to start after I flipped that little lever.
That happened to me once. My son borrowed the splitter to help out a client and when he EVENTUALLY returned it I couldn't get it started. I was pretty ticked when I discovered he closed the cutoff for transport. I never close that valve. I lost an hour and a shoulder figuring it out.
Getting mad as can be and exhausted! I promptly wrote a note on my phone of the proper process to start the splitter.
OG,
"When he called 2 weeks later, he had assumed I 'did something'. SO I went down and tried it, couldn't start it."
In the auto repair business we called these "sensyous".
Happened all the time.
"Sense you changed my oil my left rear tire has been leaking air"
"Sense you put that tail light in my car it has been very hard to start in the morning"
"Sense you fixed my radio the exhaust smells funny"
There were many others!
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That reminds of the guy that bought a walk behind tiller from us, he called back that afternoon demanding that I drop what I was doing and come out to his farm. The tiller was smoking and wouldn't move. A few days later the shop door opened and the tiller came in airborne with him right behind it, when he stopped yelling I looked at it grabbed the bfh and knocked out the rock jammed in the tines. He went white, then red then white again and admitted in a very small voice "I never even thought to check that". I replaced the now useless belt and sent him on his way, we never saw him again.
Last fall I sold a boat to a young man from upstate New York. He came to get the boat and pulled it back. He had some maintenance done to it including tune up, spark plugs, fuel filters, gear case oil change and had it winterized and wrapped.
When he got the boat out to use it, he couldn't get it to run. He called after an hour or so of trying and explained his predicament in exasperated tones. He was polite but obviously aggravated.
He got it to fire using starting fluid but couldn't get it to run. I had been down that road before and we started troubleshooting over the phone. New fuel filter under the cowling, new water separator in the bilge, primer bulb pumped up properly initially, now it was flat. I asked if he had checked the fuel valve on top of the tank?
He sheepishly said he didn't know it had one. I told him where to check and "shonuff" it was closed. I told him he needed to open the fuel tank cap and let the tank vent because enough vacuum had been pulled to keep the pump from pulling fuel. He did and the motor started after a few seconds.
I knew this boat very well and had the exact problem several years ago. The boat had been in for some service, the mechanic closed the fuel valve for safety reasons. I didn't know it and was a second from calling the shop when a fishing buddy who was standing there waiting for the boat to crank checked the fuel tank hatch and said "That right there is your problem." Needless to say I had some sympathy for the young man that bought the boat from me.
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That happened to me once. My son borrowed the splitter to help out a client and when he EVENTUALLY returned it I couldn't get it started. I was pretty ticked when I discovered he closed the cutoff for transport. I never close that valve. I lost an hour and a shoulder figuring it out.
I have "heard" that they are hard to start if they run out of gas while the return handle is stuck in open position. >:(
Been a while since I have added to this thread. No injuries or real damage this time but made a big mess! This actually occurred about 3 to 4 weeks ago. I decided one day while I was blowing leaves, I'd change the oil in the truck. The blower ran out of gas so I thought I'd let it cool before adding to the tank and meanwhile I would start the oil to draining. As normal I was in a hurry rushing to get back to leaf blowing.
The truck which is a Duramax and takes 10 quarts and the burned oil is black. I can change it without using a jack or ramps by sliding up under, though my shape makes it a tight fit. I use a large catch 'jug' that is a flat style shaped similar to a jerry can. It has a capped neck to empty the contents, an air vent that snaps closed and a plug in the pan area, so the contents don't leak when caring the jug. I have some 'Chucks' or bed pads I place under the pan in case I dribble some oil or wind blows some will draining the pan or removing the oil filter.
I get stuff ready to slide under the truck, so I don't have to make multiple trips as the sliding/ scooting is not something I am as good at as I once was, and I am trying to be quick and efficient. I have rachet extension, rachet, socket, oil filter and oil filter wrench and a rag, good to go. I get under the truck, and I am proud I remember to unsnap the air vent on the catch jug, I had forgot this once before and it causes the oil to bubble out some as it allowed air to escape the jug. This can cause a small mess on the driveway. So, I unscrew the drain plug.
I am about to maneuver to where I can be in position to undo the oil filter when I hear something that does not sound quite right. I crane my neck to notice the oil is running over the edge of the catch pan area of the jug. After uttering some word(s) I realize I failed to remove the plug in the pan area. I proceeded to scramble and contort as quickly as a fat guy can under the truck to position to unscrew the plug. Meanwhile there is this black goo starting to ooze on the driveway. I had this scene from the movie 'The Blob' that flashed in my mind as it moved through the town. I unscrew the pan plug thus coating my hand in black oil, but the oil now has a path to the containment vessel.
Well now it is time for spill control and counter measures. I use a rag to wipe my hand and start to wiggle out from under the truck. I keep a container of old (not used) kitty litter in the garage to put under the air compressor tank when I drain water from the tank. I grab it and start throwing it under the truck ahead of the blob moving down the driveway. It starts to dam it up and slow the ooze. I continue this process to coat the area back to where the pan is sitting until the blob seems to be frozen and no longer spreading.
I complete the oil change thinking how dumb that was and that this thread will have a new entry. I move the truck and collect the first round of kitty litter and apply new along with some saw dust and degreaser. The scene of the crime will be marked on my driveway for quite a while like the outline of a DB on a crime show. After transferring the oil from the catch jug to the original containers to take to recycling I figure I caught about 5 quarts on the driveway. Not one of my better moments but just one of what seems like more frequent brain failures. ::)
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Yep thats a mess and one I have made a pretty good copy of. I changed the oil on my 2002 powerstroke which holds 15 quarts. I had changed the filter, drained the oil and replaced with new. I did as I always did and started the engine to let it run for a minute until I could see the oil pressure gauge come up. I got out of the truck and the oil mess underneath was ungodly. I had failed to check that the gasket had come off with the old filter. It hadn't and oil was spraying out under pressure around the new filter. Shut the truck off and fixed the filter issue. Went and got all of the sawdust that was collected under my old tablesaw to soak up all the oil. I haven't changed my own oil in years because I got a maintenance package with my new truck. That will expire next year and I will be changing my own oil again.
My dumb thing this week was spending 3 hours at different times looking for the nail set that I had borrowed from my FIL along with his flooring nailer. I was planning to return it to him today as they are coming over for Christmas. I cleaned the garage looking for it with no luck. I tore the shop apart looking for it with no luck. I looked all over the house with no luck. I knew that I had seen the thing several days ago, but couldn't remember where. When I looked at one of the open boxes of nails just a few minutes ago, I thought, I wonder if I put it in there to avoid losing it. Aha, there it was. Good news is that it's found. Bad news is that I wasted 3 hours over several days looking for it.
Did something so dumb a while back that it has taken me until today to 'fess up; Was at the 50-hr. service interval for my Bobcat tractor. Fluids to be changed were engine oil, hydro oil, hydrostatic oil (same thing, I know), and front axle. But when I was at the dealer prior to this, I picked up the fuel filter too, just for the heck of it. Bad idea Tom....
So, son and I were buzzing around, quickly getting fluids drained and bung holes plugged. When I reached for the new oil filter, heh, I bet you already know how this one turns out-I accidentally grabbed the screw-on fuel filter, which fits the same thread size as does the oil filter. Too bad I didn't notice that item has a hole right on the end of it.
Yes, I made a mess. That's not even the worst of it. Somehow, for the first time in my life, managed to not notice the seal from the old hydro filter was still stuck on when new filter got installed. Guess what happened there! We really had a mess, the likes of which I didn't even think you could clean up with nothing but rags, oil dry, brooms and shovels. Definitely got the new shop floor broken in.
I found out my younger boy is good in a "crisis". While I was just abut beside myself with disgust over the events, and may have spoke a few bad words, he just got down on that mess with rags, oil dry, and started sopping up the mess.
I bought home 2 gallons of bar and chain oil in my truck. Leaned over and picked one up and it hit the dash board by the control for the heater. It made an odd noise when it hit too. I broke the knob off to the fan control!!!! Truck is nothing special, 2010 chevy Colorado, but I don't need a pair of vise grips sticking out of the dash board to run the controls on the fan.
So speaking of boats and plugs this goes back a long time but it still counts. I had a Lund patrol boat back in the day and never, never, pulled the plug out of it. She had a bilge pump so if it rained there was a solution. It had happened enough that I had to have her in the water at 0200 on a search after a crash or other life threatening matter on one of multiple bodies of water that the idea of fumbling around for the plug made no sense to me, so it stayed in all the time.
Anyway I had the boat out on the water and had an observer with me. We are out and about and I noticed there was water where there should not be, even as rough at things were, so I turned the pump on, at some point I realized the water level was not dropping the way it should and no matter what I did I could not run it out. If I remember correctly I stopped long enough to try and figure out what was happening and it became clear that what was happening was that I was running out of time quickly. There was no way to make it to shore so I headed to the closest island I could see and beached her. Now here I am standing in basically waste deep, cold, water fumbling around with my hands under the boat trying to find the gash, hole, or other issue that must exist when my finger goes - "plop" - right into the drain hole. Ahhh-- there is the problem, no plug, but where is the plug and how did it fall out is the question. I did have a spare and used that one, got the boat empty and eventually was on my way.
Couple of days later I was speaking with my Sgt when he told me he was the one who pulled the plug when he borrowed my boat over a day off and went onto say that he "always leaves it out when done", so we had a conversation about putting things back the way you found them and what would have happened if I was out at zero dark thirty in white water on the river when I discovered his "always" habits.
A few lessons were learned.
One of my stern plug mistakes (Yes there have been several) was when I first got married and several months later I took my wife to my old home place and took out the old john boat and 4 hp outboard. The plug was in but was worn so it would work free. I'd fire up the motor and run up the river till the water drained out. I finally cut a stick to length and braced the plug to stay in. (I later learned all I really needed to do was tighten the screw in the plug a turn or too to swell the rubber gaskets to tighten them.) Anyway we fished till dark and started home on the Escambia River. I had my wife sit down in the bottom of the boat so I could see over her and locate the Vee from any snags out in the current. I had run that river my whole life so I knew every sandbar and such in it - except one apparently. We ran right up into about 2" of water and grounded firmly. There were several quarts of water still left in the bottom of the boat which sloshed forward when the momentum stopped. Of course they wet my wife's butt and she can get nervous about such things and she jumped up and started screaming (I don't know why as there was nobody to hear her but me and I was right there beside her) "We're sinking, we're sinking." I disgustedly replied "We can't sink. We're aground!" I had to take my boots off and get out of the boat to finally push it into water deep enough to float and eventually deep enough to run the motor.
Oh, oil messes!
Simply Green (the cleaner) works surprisingly well at removing oil stains, at least when they are fresh. Your concrete won't look new but it does pretty well.
When I was still a kid living with my parents my first car was a 1981 Honda Prelude, thrice passed down to me. I wish I still had it. Anyway, I went to change the oil one day and we had those metal ramps that were real sketchy to drive up so I could get under it and pull the plug. Everything goes fine, oil and filter get changed, I hop in the car and nervously back off the ramps to find that I'd forgotten to pull the drain pan out from under the car, so while not nearly as much oil as you guys are losing but a very similar mess.
Uh, then, a couple years later, I did the exact same thing with the 1985 Volkswagen Golf I had, on the same ramps, in the same spot on the driveway.
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) I was taught early on to tie said plug to the tiller or steering wheel to keep that from happening. A fellow who I (briefly) worked for at his so called marine shop backed a customers boat and trailer into the water, boat didn't float off so he backed in further. Still no joy so further when everything dropped off the ramp. It wouldn't pull forward so he he threw the Land Rover in 4 low and hit it, boat and trailer came sans axle. He laid into me for not checking the plug so I told where to go and left.
I have had several with a short chain or cable attached connected to the boat at the drain. You had enough room to remove it and drain the boat but it was always right next to the spot where it was needed.
The one in my live well is the same size so it is always available as a back up if I ever lose the primary plug.
Oh the boat plug not installed stories! I have my share. Here are a couple.
Spring of the year several years ago, my oldest daughter, who was attending UNC Wilmington, wanted to go Spanish Mackerel fishing with some of her friends. So I arranged the trip and took the boat. They met me at a ramp on the ICW near Shallotte, NC. We launched and proceeded out of the inlet. When we slowed down to set our trolling lines, the bilge pump came on and ran and ran and ran. Then it dawned on me, I had forgotten the plug. I checked and it was where I normally keep it and not in the necessary spot for the moment.
Faced with sinking, none of the young people were willing to go in the water and put the plug in. So over the side I went into the chilly water, installed the plug and back on board in less time than the debate they were having on the merits of sinking. :D
On another occasion when I had a stern drive bowrider boat, I would remove the plugs from the water jacket and manifold jacket on the motor to help prevent freezing damage. My brother and I went to Badin Lake fishing for striped bass in January. Except we got a mile from the ramp and the back of the boat was filling up with water. We knew we had put the boat plug in. THEN I remembered those pesky plugs in the water jacket and manifolds. Turned on the bilge pump, ran back to the ramp and trailered the boat. It took about half an hour for the water to run out. We installed the plugs after fishing them out from under the motor. Seems like we caught fish on that trip but I really don't recall. :D
Boat plugs.
This is one of those "Let HE who is without sin cast the first stone" subjects. I am not without sin, although I try to let those incidents pass from memory as soon as they can. :D
However, there was this one time, we were fishing the St. Lawrence river out of Clayton, NY in the 1,000 islands region. We had a rented open boat docked just below our rented cabin with a 15 horse Evinrude. My son was about 13 or 14 at the time and I considered him a fully fledged and trained deck hand, and he had failed to roll out of bed and go down to bail out the boat after an unexpected heavy rain overnight as was his duty. So we had breakfast and walked down while I made all kinds of comments about him costing us fishing time and how simple it was to just get the bulk of the water out of the boat and all those other things a Dad says to his son when he is trying to instill responsibility. The tackle boxes were floating in the boat, just to give you an idea. I was not about to do 'his job' for him, so we untied and took off for the far side of the channel, that gave us a good 20 minute run flat out and I pulled the plug figuring it would drain as we ran. It was slow going at first with all that water on board, but improved quickly. What was left he could hand bail or hand pump as we fished. Well we got the the spot, a cove around one of the islands, in due time, set out an anchor to catch the slot current the way we liked and started fishing. In just a little while I noticed a tackle box moving a bit, then I noticed my feet were getting wet. I quickly put the plug back in. I waited a few more minutes and calmly asked him when he was going to 'get around' to getting the rest of this water out of the boat.
To this day he doesn't know of this little boo-boo on my part. He just thinks those drain cocks don't drain as much water as you might think they would. ;D
Then there was the time I turned on the wash down pump at the dock to rinse the deck before setting out to fish an artificial reef 8 miles offshore.
I neglected to turn the pump off. The hose from the pump to the wash down connection had a split in it. For the hour or so it ran it pumped the bilge full.
Some creative rerouting of the plumbing allowed me to use both the bilge pump and the wash down pump to pump the water out before we sank.
I spent the next day replacing the plumbing before launching the boat again.
:D :D :D
When I worked in MN at a canoe outfitting company off of the Gunflint Trail I would go fishing in the evenings and my days off. I had a little 9.9 mercury outboard on a 14' boat. I would do like you all and drive the boat with the plug out to get the water out. It didn't happen fast with that 9.9. One evening I got stopped by the game warden. We talked for a while as I knew him from buying gas at our store. As we were talking I realized that the plug was still out and I now had about 6" of water in the boat. I quickly told him I had to go and I gunned it. Well, it took me about 30 minutes of driving around to get all the water out. It was a nice night for a boat ride though.
Really just dumb luck.....I bought an old crestliner fishing boat from the retired plumber here in town. Verns had some health issues and couldn't use his boat anymore. It had been sitting a while.
Finally got it out early this fall. I didn't forget the plug, my wife and were trolling along and I thought the back end of the boat was sitting lower . It was ....much lower...
Well the live well plumbing was leaking underneath filling the boat.(I figured it out at that moment)...Glad the bilge pump works. I though I'd lost the plug too. :o It was getting towards dark anyway so we beat it back to the boat ramp. Bilg ran the whole way back and water drained for ten minutes after I got the boat out. Hoping to get that torn apart and fixed soon.
Sounds like you need a plumber. :D
My dad bought a new to him 2003 Lund this summer. After the first few times we used it we figured out it had some water getting in somewhere. The first thing we checked was rivets, but they all looked good. Then I took apart the floor in one of the compartments to get to the drain for the live well thinking maybe it was getting in there. That didn't fix it. A few weeks later we replaced the bilge pump and the live well pump. It turned out that the livewell pump hose attached to the pump was not clamped on and was very loose. It's been dry in there ever since we replaced the pump.
I used to do that with my sailboat, but you better have some wind.
This actually dates back a couple months, I bought a 20x30 rounded canvas shelter that is rated for "Canadian snow load". I got it all set up and parked the boat, edger, 4 wheeler and skid steer in out of the weather. Was I. There today and could see where the steel poles were failing. I already had the skiddy parked outside because I had been using it. Went over and started the 4 wheeler and was getting ready to back it out when I heard a pop. I dove between the boat and 4 wheeler as the shelter came crashing down. I escaped without injury, but the windshield on the boat got broken and the cover is tore up. So, I spent the rest of the day digging everything out and cutting the shelter into little pieces.
Must have been for Victoria not Labrador.
Crossroads, do you know the brand by any chance? I have been quite happy with mine after 3 winters. Pretty dang tough. The quality levels on these can vary a lot and those shelter logic ones don't seem to hold up very well.
This is very minor but DUMB just the same. I was sharpening blades this evening on the Woodmizer BMS 250. I knew the blade I was sharpening had a bit if a bend in it but proceeded anyway. Well the machine stopped about 1/3 around. I couldn't get it to restart.
I unplugged the machine, checked the E stop, no joy. Recalling there are a couple of fuses inside the control box, I pulled had fuses and checked them. Again no joy.
After about a half hour. I checked the blade, pulled it to me a bit and tried to start the sharpener. It started and ran fine. It has been so long since I've sharpened blades that I forgot that there's a proximity sensor that shuts the sharpener down when the blade is out of alignment. It was that slight bend that did it.
My ego was bruised and raw but no other damage to man of machine.
Some wounds just don't heal :D.
I don't know what brand it was off hand, I might try to dig up the box tomorrow and check.
Quote from: Crossroads on December 29, 2021, 07:48:14 PM
This actually dates back a couple months, I bought a 20x30 rounded canvas shelter that is rated for "Canadian snow load". I got it all set up and parked the boat, edger, 4 wheeler and skid steer in out of the weather. Was I. There today and could see where the steel poles were failing. I already had the skiddy parked outside because I had been using it. Went over and started the 4 wheeler and was getting ready to back it out when I heard a pop. I dove between the boat and 4 wheeler as the shelter came crashing down. I escaped without injury, but the windshield on the boat got broken and the cover is tore up. So, I spent the rest of the day digging everything out and cutting the shelter into little pieces.
How much snow was on it?
Quote from: Crossroads on December 29, 2021, 07:48:14 PM
This actually dates back a couple months, I bought a 20x30 rounded canvas shelter that is rated for "Canadian snow load". I got it all set up and parked the boat, edger, 4 wheeler and skid steer in out of the weather. Was I. There today and could see where the steel poles were failing. I already had the skiddy parked outside because I had been using it. Went over and started the 4 wheeler and was getting ready to back it out when I heard a pop. I dove between the boat and 4 wheeler as the shelter came crashing down. I escaped without injury, but the windshield on the boat got broken and the cover is tore up. So, I spent the rest of the day digging everything out and cutting the shelter into little pieces.
I think you got snookered by the advertising.
Advertiser 1 Crossroads 0.
GAB
Quote from: Crossroads on December 29, 2021, 07:48:14 PM
This actually dates back a couple months, I bought a 20x30 rounded canvas shelter that is rated for "Canadian snow load". I got it all set up and parked the boat, edger, 4 wheeler and skid steer in out of the weather. Was I. There today and could see where the steel poles were failing. I already had the skiddy parked outside because I had been using it. Went over and started the 4 wheeler and was getting ready to back it out when I heard a pop. I dove between the boat and 4 wheeler as the shelter came crashing down. I escaped without injury, but the windshield on the boat got broken and the cover is tore up. So, I spent the rest of the day digging everything out and cutting the shelter into little pieces.
I had the same thing happen to me on a 30 X 30 a few years ago. Got close to a foot of wet snow followed by rain and down it came. Had a camper and 2 boats under it. Minor damage to the little windshield on my pontoon boat. Surprisingly, my Homeowners covered it. They will never get the chance to pay for another one tho.
With those tent garages you need to knock the snow off the roof during storms, every 4-6 inches I'll go out with a broom and knock it off from the outside and inside. Otherwise they will fail. Sadly can't leave home on vacation if there were to be a big snow storm or you risk it collapsing too
Are the tent garages supposed to be heated to melt the snow as it falls?
We had that problem on the military base in Bagram in Afghanistan. The tents were heated and while we would remove snow with special rakes under extreme conditions but most of the time the heat took care of the issue. We had a bunch of tents assigned to the USAF and they contracted on their own to foam them with a solution that insulated and hardened the tents. The first heavy snow they collapsed. We had to tear all the covers out and replace them with normal canvas. To top it off the foam was considered hazardous waste and we had to pay a special contractor to haul it off and process it.
My experience I'd only get a couple winters out of those tent shelters. I would have to keep sweeping the snow off otherwise it would start to sag, turn into big blocks of ice, and then failure happens. They worked good in summer to keep the rain off and provide shade, unless a wind storm would hit. :D
I have a 12x24 x10 height round top for my tractor and it works pretty good but it does trap moisture. Still better than being out in the sun, snow, rain etc
We have about 3' stacked up right now, but it had been sliding off and piling up on the sides. Then we got a wet snow followed by a freeze and it didn't slide. There was a blanket about 6' each side of the peak about a foot deep.
Well in all fairness it did say it was rated for "Canadian" snow load, so after you allow for the exchange rate I would say it was more of a southern Utah tent and not an Idaho one. :D
Quote from: Southside on December 30, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
Well in all fairness it did say it was rated for "Canadian" snow load, so after you allow for the exchange rate I would say it was more of a southern Utah tent and not an Idaho one. :D
Dang, I hadn't taken that into consideration lol
My dumb move today was not checking the new sausage stuffer I bought a couple weeks ago to make some deer sausage and such. I killed the deer the 27th and just finished grinding it last night and was going to stuff it into sausage today only to find my stuffer was missing the funnels. Apparently some low life bought it, took the funnels out to replace the ones they'd lost then returned it. I called the company and they finally found a couple more in the back and the guy agreed to pull the funnels out of one of them and ship it back as defective. Even though it meant a 25 mile drive each way that was as much as I could hope for them to do especially since I no longer even had the receipt. I went over and got the funnels and guess I'll be mixing up and stuffing sausages tonight. It set me back a few hours but the sales people were as cooperative as I could have expected them to be. Too often they are not.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on December 30, 2021, 06:58:45 PM
My dumb move today was not checking the new sausage stuffer I bought a couple weeks ago to make some deer sausage and such. I killed the deer the 27th and just finished grinding it last night and was going to stuff it into sausage today only to find my stuffer was missing the funnels. Apparently some low life bought it, took the funnels out to replace the ones they'd lost then returned it. I called the company and they finally found a couple more in the back and the guy agreed to pull the funnels out of one of them and ship it back as defective. Even though it meant a 25 mile drive each way that was as much as I could hope for them to do especially since I no longer even had the receipt. I went over and got the funnels and guess I'll be mixing up and stuffing sausages tonight. It set me back a few hours but the sales people were as cooperative as I could have expected them to be. Too often they are not.
How big of stuffer did you get, I've been using my grinder for the last 10 years and finally got a stuffer last year. I ordered a 20# manual stuffer, but I'm yet to be able to get more than about 12# in it. I do wish I had bought one sooner and my next one will be electric.
I bought a Weston brand 5 lb stuffer. It looks kind of like a a horn of plenty or a 90 degree 4" pipe elbow welded to feet and a long handle to press the meat out of the container into the funnel. It has 3 different size funnels for stuffing different size sausage from big summer sausage down to small snack sticks.
I don't know how much it will actually hold or how hard it will be to press the sausage out or such. I'd rather have had one of the crank, press type but they were 3-4 times as expensive so I opted for this one for about $60. I have the hog casings soaking to soften but I have never threaded one on a funnel yet so I will see how hard that is to do.
I mixed up the pork and deer good tonight and plan to start with 8 lbs (8 each 12") of summer sausages then 24 lbs of breakfast link sausages that I'll try to smoke on my worn out smoker.
I'm hoping Caveman will bring his welder as well as his tool box when he comes to visit and he can replace the rusted out ends for me as one of his projects. :D
Here is the stuffer I bought. I have not seen any videos or real reviews (One lady says it is easier than using a pop bottle - that was a lot of help. ::)) on how well it works. My grinder does not seem to work well for regrinding so I can't see how it would work as a stuffer. If anybody here has and has used one of these I'd welcome any input and suggestions.
Weston 36-5005-W Manual Sausage Stuffer - 5 Ibs. (restaurantsupply.com) (https://www.restaurantsupply.com/weston-36-5005-w-manual-sausage-stuffer-5-ibs?msclkid=c44173d3bd6e195b62cd121ddd449d02&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5BADL%5D%20%5BPLA%5D%20%5BShopping%5D%20Manufacturers&utm_term=4575823816207809&utm_content=Manufacturers)
Mine is the upright style with a crank, I need to attach it to a sheet of plywood, if I don't add a little extra water to the snack stick mix, I have to have my wife hold the stuffer while I turn the handle.
I use the hog casing for brats, the collagen for snack sticks and the paper ones for summer sausage. I stuff everything as soon as it's mixed, if it sets overnight it might get stiff and be harder to run through the stuffer. Keep us posted how it turns out.
Here's the before and after videos of the shelter.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SrXhvoIqpeU?feature=share (https://youtube.com/shorts/SrXhvoIqpeU?feature=share)
https://youtube.com/shorts/0aU0BFYeTdQ?feature=share (https://youtube.com/shorts/0aU0BFYeTdQ?feature=share)
Crossroads,
I have not mixed in the spices yet so will have to mix each batch one more time before I stuff it. We will see how it turns out. I am thinking to bolt the stuffer to a 1X8 strapped across the corner of my porch rails like I do with the grinder.
Crossroads, that is a shelter Logic isn't it? These last a year or less around here, but everybody sells them and people keep buying them. Sorry man. That really sucks.
I bought a Rhino Shelter about 4 years ago and it's tough stuff. The first winter I would be out clearing snow as it was building up, the second winter I would go out after a heavy snow and clear it, the third winter I forgot about it mostly and would clear it from time to time.. Good design, very strong fabric, no issues. I know it won't last forever but it's doing good so far. It was a lot more expensive than the shelter logic versions, about twice the price as I recall.
High tunnels, unheated greenhouses, have the same problem. Greenhouses are usually double layered plastic with an inflation fan that maintains a space between layers that helps insulate. In snow they turn that fan off and turn the heat up to melt the snow. We have to keep the high tunnel cleared as the snow accumulates. The 2' snow we had a few winters back took down 5 here locally that I know of. Our plan is that if we cannot keep up with the snowfall, we'll slash the plastic. In the case of those the covering is about 1/10 the cost of the frame.
I'm not sure if it's shelter logic,it may be? I bought it from a guy on market place locally who had never opened the box. I was going to dig the box out today, but it's really buried and at this point, the metal box is probably the best part of the deal, so I don't want to damage it lol
Note to self....don't lay the roller table on its side to get it out of your way....all the rollers come out!
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VB,
That is handy to know! Now you know when you are short on storage space you can just collapse the rollers and store them in a fraction of assembled space. :D
Don't lose those notes, they will come in handy later :).
Judging by the lenght of this thread, we all have a drawer full of notes that we don't refer back to.
I quit making notes, they usually get held against me by Murphy, Karma & Associates at some point. :D :D
Notes!?! I don't use them, I have a perfect memory for them....
Now if I could just find it? smiley_jester
Notes-lists, just about the same.
Do what I do, make a list of things you need when you go to town. leave the list at home so you can come home and see what you forgot. ;D
Last year I completely torn down and rebuilt an 18" Oliver direct drive planer. I took many pictures and extensive notes. But on the build up I was in too much of a hurry to go back and refer to those pictures and notes. As a result I had to redo several assembly steps.
Doug in SW iA
So I'm gonna rat on someone else because I am shaking my head a little. I get a phone call the other night....."Dad my trucks making a rattling noise in the front end I don't know what it is I'm almost back, I'm gonna drop it by Karl's and have him look." (Karl is a family friend mechanic)
I thought ok it's got enough miles could a be CV joint going bad. I get a text from Karl that the truck was done about 45 mins later. I thought it was odd it was that quick. I told him thank you for dealing with my kids crap so quickly, then I told the boys to go get it, and didn't think much more about it. Fast forward about a week nobody had said what exactly was going on so I asked my wife if she knew. She looked at me and said Tom did n't tell you.... I said nope why? His mom says well it was loose lug nuts on the tire he changed...... ::)
Hmmm wonder why he didn't tell dad??....... Just very thankful it didn't come off and make things much worse. He thought he cranked them tight enough but didn't look at it again and check. Probably in a hurry to see a girl, if I remember right..... I'm sure I was much more on top of things when I was 20...
Yeah right ....nuts don't fall far from trees....
Nebraska,
That tale reminds me of the time my then teen daughter came driving our old Pontiac Catalina into the drive in a cloud of dust, backed into the parking spot and came in the house. I told her "Driving pretty fast there weren't you?" She said "Yeah but I had to hurry because that front right tire was going flat on me."
She had just driven through town 5 miles away past 3 service stations run by friends of ours so she could get home in time for Dad and big brother to go change the tire. ::) Any one of them would have plugged or changed the tire and if she was low on cash they'd have run a tab for her.
When my sister was dating her now husband, he rotated the tires I think on her car(an old subaru station wagon). Days later my dad discovered that the right front wheel was missing a lug nut and the others were loose. I think I remember that we had to change all the lug bolts because the threads were all damaged. That car only had 4 lug bolts.
Ah, to be young and dumb. My first car was a 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 with a 425 cu-in V-8. It had a speedo cable that went to the front left tire. It was always giving me trouble. I had the front tire off trying to figure it out. I put the tire back on and, for some reason, drove about a mile down to my sister and BILs place. On the way, my left front hubcap jumped off and rolled into the bushes. Strange...
On the way back I stopped and threw it in the back seat. I drove past my house to go to where my BIL worked at a garage. About half way there, on a narrow, no shoulder highway, the car started to vibrate bad (as I was doing about 70). I turned on to the only side street that went straight up a hill to a cul-d-sac at the top. (I should have just tightened what was still there) I knew I shouldn't work on the tire with a jack on the hill so I tried for the top. Half way up (going very slow) the tire clunked down as the last lug nut came off. I was fortunate enough to find a line of lug nuts on the hill behind my car and was able to re-attach the wheel. Now I really tighten the lug nuts!
This reminds me of the guy who had a flat and changed the tire in front of the state insane asylum. After he put the spare on he started to put the lugs on and stepped on the hubcap he used to hold them, it flipped and they all fell down into the street drain and washed away before he could rescue them.
He stood there shaking his head and a guy walked out and asked what was the problem. He explained he'd lost all the lug nuts. The stranger said "Why don't you just take one off each of the other 3 wheels and that should get you to the next service station or parts place to get some more."
The driver did as suggested and turned to the stranger and said "That was a great idea. Can I give you a lift somewhere?" The man pointed to the asylum and said "No thanks. I live right there." The car owner said "But you don't seem crazy to me." The inmate said "Oh I'm crazy all right, I'm just not stupid."
That reminds me of being lost in Galway Ireland. We pulled up in front of a big old building and someone came walking out. We asked directions from the man wearing a robe. As we pulled away on the left side of the road, which was disconcerting enough, and realized what the sign said on the building. It was an insane assylum.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on January 04, 2022, 08:22:13 PM" The inmate said "Oh I'm crazy all right, I'm just not stupid."
That IS the FUNNIEST thing I've seen on the internet in a while. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: dougtrr2 on January 04, 2022, 04:07:22 PM
Last year I completely torn down and rebuilt an 18" Oliver direct drive planer. I took many pictures and extensive notes. But on the build up I was in too much of a hurry to go back and refer to those pictures and notes. As a result I had to redo several assembly steps.
Doug in SW iA
I'm guilty of this too...probably means we should spend less time on OWWM and more time of FF :D
Yes i did with a 4.5 in cutting wheel in an angle grinder. I broke a band on my 70 and it was wadded up so like many times i just use the cutoff wheel to make the job easier.
When i buy tools i buy good tools that will last but on consumables i tend to look for a bargain . on cutoff wheels no more for me ,after that one exploded this morning i am done . i was wearing safety glasses and gloves but i will soon have a flip down quality shield and the best wheel i can find.
I hope you are ok slider.. :-[
JJ
Yeah, that can be nasty. I always have to remind myself to keep my face and groin out of the plane of that wheel in case it lets go. It's hard doing both sometimes.
I hope your are OK, and the worst thing that resulted is replacement underwear.
Having grinder wheels come apart is never a good thing. I had always heard about it, but never witnessed it in person until a couple years ago on an Oregon chainsaw grinder. I hit the switch and it almost instantly came apart. Fortunately, I was standing to one side and only got hit by a small piece on the wrist of the hand that threw the switch. Glad you're okay!
Grinding wheels are a whole different thing for me. In 1974 I was apprenticing in a cutter grinding shop. They had me grinding a 2.5" diameter shaft on a big Cincinnati cylindrical grinder running a 24" diameter by 2" wide wheel. Back and forth, back and forth taking .005" at a pass. Eventually the sound the wheel was making changed in pitch just ever so slightly so I looked around to see if one of the journeymen heard it and might tell me what to do. As I was scanning around I noticed everyone looking my way and making themselves smaller. These guys were real nut busters so I figured this was yet another joke but something in the back of my head told me to get down and as I began to bend over, the wheel let go in a 'spectacular manner'.
One third of the wheel went directly through the steel built up roof overhead, one third went halfway through the cement block wall right behind where I was standing, and the last third we never found. The workpiece was ripped out of the centers, also flung someplace and trash. The guys in that shop thought that was great fun, they laughed for days. I had a different opinion. They weren't really good at 'teaching the kid' in that shop. I didn't stay long. Never missed them either, but those are the dues one pays in every trade. You move around and learn what you can. I learned I don't like big grinders.
To this day I keep my distance from anything resembling a precision grinder and will barely entertain running a simple surface grinder. Never ran another cylindrical grinder again since that day. Cutoff wheels will put a serious hurtin' on ya and give a good surgeon a rough day. Big grinding wheels just make a lot of work for the mortician.
Hilti makes a line of cutoff wheels that are significantly thicker than the regular ones you see around, yet not as thick as a grinding wheel. I bought a couple boxes of them on sale and have been impressed.
I was using the bar shop to cut some angle brackets, not really what it was designed to do. Fortunately I was wearing a face shield and welding gloves when the disc grenaded but it sure scared the bejabbers outa me, the 15 year old shop gofer had eyes the size of dinner plates. I have a very healthy respect for cutting and grinding discs.
One shop I was in had a seven inch angle grinder that was missing the switch, they would unplug it when finished the task defeating the brake! I ordered a twelve dollar switch and repaired the tool much to the supervisors annoyance, he was scared to spend money.
had a guy here sandblasting a bridge walkway to be re-painted. it was a commercial rig ran off a big truck. he let go of the wand with one hand and it fell down and ran a pass across his thigh. He went to the OR. big wound and the grit traveled 2 feet down his leg. on x-ray.
Oh that's really bad ... keeping a leg 🦵 might get tough with that. I've seen lots of gravel in wounds before but never high velocity gravel.
When I was teaching I had student teachers from time to time. One young man had worked for Duke Energy prior to going to school to become a teacher. He was on a repair crew in one of the power plants. A coworker was grinding on something with a 7" angle grinder. The disc shattered and a large chunk hit the man in the jaw. He had serious injuries and permanent facial scars.
Turned out the disc wasn't rated for the rpm of the grinder. He apparently received quite a compensation package. He said he would rather have not been hurt to begin with.
I'm wary of discount grinding discs, cutoff wheels, drill bits, router bits and the like.
A friend brought me cedar logs and yesterday he and his son came over to watch/help in the sawing. Minutes after they arrived a neighbor, whom I had visited 2 days ago, called to say he had tested positive for Covid. Friend, son and I put on masks just in case and started rolling logs. They weren't big but one was highly tapered and knotty and didn't roll well. The big end fell while rolling on the rollway and the little end rose and I could feel it hit my mask. WOW! Fractions of an inch from hitting jaw, teeth, or face but fortunately no injuries. The dumb part? working with new people around a mill who are trying to help and even though some of the tasks seem so simple accidents do happen and are always a surprise. I am used to working alone and have several friends who really like to "help" so I try to be very mindful of just what it safe to let them do. What experience do you have with this?
I've always made it a point to be very watchful of my fingers when someone else is helping me adjust a log on the mill.
It seems that when you get your hand/fingers in a close area, the helper most times will move the log a little and that will be enough to pinch me.
I have a friend that gets out of his truck with gloves on and when I look up, he has his hands on a board. He's never been around a sawmill so he's in training. :D
He got "trained" on some just off the sawmill full 2X8 16 foot long hemlock. This stuff is heavy green. He even helped me put the rafters up. Then I had some cut that set around for a few weeks and he came back again. He liked the rafter much better that time. :D He was shocked that they were that much lighter.
Then I have some that show up in their manly sandles and $80 jeans and ask, Do you want some help? ::)
Quote from: SawyerTed on January 12, 2022, 08:09:24 AMWhen I was teaching I had student teachers from time to time.
Sawyer Ted What parts are you missing? I never had a shop teacher that wasn't missing parts or badly scarred. smiley_jester
I am happy to say no missing parts due to shop accidents while teaching or really due to any accidents (so far) for that matter. I'm also very proud to say I didn't have any students lose any body parts in my shop. I do have some colleagues who are not so fortunate.
That doesn't mean I've not had some of my own injuries along the way. I did have a kickback on my personal shop table saw that created a very sharp projectile that stuck in my arm and resulted in about 6 stitches. I also had a chainsaw kickback that cut my leg severely many years ago. I know why the table saw kicked and I've avoided having kickback like that again. And I know why the chainsaw kicked back and haven't had that happen again either.
The worst accident a student had was in my classroom not the shop and only required 4 stitches. I taught some architectural and mechanical drafting. One of the projects students did was build model houses from drawings that they did. We used mat board like is used to frame pictures to build the models. We used paper cutters and utility knives to cut the mat board. There were two or three students waiting to do some cutting at one of the cutting stations in the room. A young lady was holding a utility knife. She turned around to speak to the young man behind her. As she did, he raised his hand and hit the open blade of the utility knife. Anybody that saw it coming had to be clairvoyant. Knives had to stay on the cutting tables from then on.::)
In the shop, the worse was a student was using a manual miter saw. He placed the wood under the saw and used his thumb to steady the saw for his initial cut. On the back stroke, a tooth on the back saw caught his thumbnail and peeled a good chunk of nail back from his nail bed. Not much blood but I know it was severely painful! He nearly passed out!
Otherwise, it was bandaids and antibiotic ointment for small cuts and scrapes.
In 8th grade I was in shop class and we were making clocks. Well, around the clock face we used a solid piece of wood to cut a 1" or so circle out of. The circle was cut on a drill press with a bit that came out of the press, took a 90 degree turn, then went out like 4", then another 90 degree turn, which ended in the cutting part, then that cutting part was loosened and slid back to 3".
The solid piece of wood was likely clamped to the drill press stage and the shop teacher was doing this part. I stood about 10 feet away watching him cut out my circle. As he got through it a chunk flew off and hit me straight in the forehead.
Quote from: SawyerTed on January 13, 2022, 02:01:05 PMShe turned around to speak to the young man behind her. As she did, he raised his hand and hit the open blade of the utility knife.
I've helped my niece and her husband on numerous projects around their house and they've help on my cabin project. I forget the exact scenario, but we were cutting things with a razor knife. He was helping me by handing me the knife when I needed it. He would always extend the blade before he handed it to me. The first time I nearly grabbed the blade! I had to tell him to stop that!
Well I know somewhere there's rules about ladders and the forum.... My son was around today so I had help. We patched up the barn roof. It will leak but be better than hole the storm made 3 weeks ago. Roofing contractor is supposed to give me a bid. I doubt any work will happen until spring. Ladder in the loader bucket isn't the way I wanted to do it, but it got done and all is better for now.
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32x50 doesn't look like much. A board and batten siding job is on the list new roof first.
I bought a pair of hooks that you bolt to the ladder. You hook them over the ridge of the roof. The other side has wheels on it, so you push it up there, turn it over and hook it. Its good and stable. You can't be too safe on a roof.
I think they got there money's worth out of those wood shingles. ;D
Talked to a guy years ago who used to do barn roofs. They sprayed a liquid coating over everything that dried watertight, only catch was they would do it at night. One guy would be on the roof, and the other was inside with a spotlight shining up to show the holes to patch. :o
I had a team that used to fix our tents like that when I was in the USMC. In the daytime we could see the light from inside and I had a lightweight guy climb up with a can of clue and canvas patches and a rawhide mallet and a guy inside would center a tentpole on the pin hole to make a flat surface and the upstairs Marine would patch it.
I have used recycled roofing on my lumber storage sheds and I'd go out at night, turn on a bright light pointed at the roof and get on top and go slap a dab of black mastic roofing tar on every place I could see light. Same principle and it does work well if you can safely work on the roof at night.
Quote from: Resonator on January 13, 2022, 10:18:24 PM
I think they got there money's worth out of those wood shingles. ;D
I assume rodents got under the old steel and chewed holes making nests. There isn't any "goodie" left in the cedar. I want a new roof on it, finding a contractor to do it will be the challenge. No real shortage of carpenters up here but they have all gotten older like me.
Nebraska, at least if you fell you would fall into the loader bucket :).
Quote from: WDH on January 14, 2022, 10:48:02 AM
Nebraska, at least if you fell you would fall into the loader bucket :).
My thinking exactly! It is not the fall down the roof that worries me, it is the sudden stop after going off the lower edge.
When I built my house I had to get up on the roof while the roof was under construction to blow snow off.
I have a 9/12 pitch so its pretty steep for being up there on snow. I was doing well for a while until I lost what I was holding onto. I sat down and went for a ride down the roof. I knew that I had already installed a 2x8 gutter board which was attached to the 2x6 roof deck boards, so it was sticking up above the deck by about 6". I put my heels down right on the deck and hoped for the best. My feet hit the gutter board and I kind of stood halfway up and sat back down when I came to a stop. I'll never forget that.
We have ladders on all of the firetrucks that we call roof ladders. They have flip out hooks to hook the peak of a roof. You carry that ladder up another ladder to get to the roof and then slide the roof ladder on its side up the roof until the top is past the peak. Then you lay it down.
Ridge hooks. Mine have rags duct taped over them to keep from scratching.
If you get a pair and a pair of ladder scaffold jacks you can set up 2 ladders some feet apart and run a plank between them across a section of roof.
I've tied 2 extension ladders together over the ridge as well.
When I confirmed the Olympics had not passed over a ski jumper while on my practice run going from the upper roof to the lower last year, we were under there looking up at a broken rafter not long ago. Gentle was not on my mind, I stuck the landing :D. Happily the purlins and stretchy metal saved the day.
Quote from: Nebraska on January 13, 2022, 08:53:16 PM
Well I know somewhere there's rules about ladders and the forum.... My son was around today so I had help. We patched up the barn roof. It will leak but be better than hole the storm made 3 weeks ago. Roofing contractor is supposed to give me a bid. I doubt any work will happen until spring. Ladder in the loader bucket isn't the way I wanted to do it, but it got done and all is better for now.
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32x50 doesn't look like much. A board and batten siding job is on the list new roof first.
How old do you think those shingles are?
During construction we made two ladders using 20' 2x4s with 2x4 rungs nailed on every 16". We tied them together across the ridge and would move it back and forth as needed. That ladder stayed on my roof for a few years. It came in handy for a long time, but eventually I had to take it down.
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Well I know somewhere there's rules about ladders and the forum.... My son was around today so I had help. We patched up the barn roof. It will leak but be better than hole the storm made 3 weeks ago. Roofing contractor is supposed to give me a bid. I doubt any work will happen until spring. Ladder in the loader bucket isn't the way I wanted to do it, but it got done and all is better for now.
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32x50 doesn't look like much. A board and batten siding job is on the list new roof first.
How old do you think those shingles are?
I will have to study a couple pictures I would guess maybe the thirties. There's a scale house built in 1943 across the driveway from it and had the same roof. The original farm house is cut nails so it was pre 1890 because the lumber yards got modern
nails by then. The barn was probably a newer structure replacing original buildings. I don't think cedar shingles last super well out here. The roofs I've seen them on here had gaps in the sheeting so they could breathe well enough. Or maybe I expect too much. Pretty sure the steel on that was on much longer than cedar was exposed. Lead head ring shanked nails holding it down and it didn't leak before this. Every so often a gypsy paint crew will come through and coats roofs and grain bins. I turned them down 10 years ago or so. If they would have came through this year I would have bitten as the steel and the couplula needed it but I guess that isn't an option now. Anyone know ow long have lead head nails been gone?
Well I did something dumb on Wednesdat, but discovered it today. I think I got lucky because its cold. I've been painting this project that I built for a customer. Wednesday I finished up some painting about 5pm and promptly went inside to clean the paint brush, but never put the lid on the paint can. I went to do some more painting this morning after I've been at work for 2 days. That's when I found the can with no lid. I was scared to check the paint, but luckily it was gooey on top but dried to a film. I was able to add some water and mix it back to a good consistency. I finished the painting. That Benjamin Moore paint would be very expensive to waste.
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Thats a nice color, but what kind of wood are you covering up? Looks pretty.
Its nothing special...yellow poplar, i think birch plywood and some sort of nondescript 1/4" hardwood plywood. It was all chosen to be painted.
I do like the color.
We have a winter storm coming this week with the potential for heavy ice. I needed to check on the generator and make sure it would run if needed. Of course the battery was dead and so I had to jump it. It cranked and cranked with no start, so I got some starting fluid and gave it a squirt. There was a little bang from the choke, but no start. I gave it another start of fluid and cranked. A fireball came out of the exhaust pipe and scared the heck out of me. I took that as a sign that it might start. Unfortunately I failed to align the generator correctly in its little house so that the exhaust would be aimed out. It did start and filled the shed with smoke. I had to shut it down and move the gen. Finally I got it aimed correctly and it started again. Now if we get the ice and lose power, at least I'm sure the generator will start. Off to town to fill some gas tanks and we are as ready as we'll ever be.
Old injuries can come back and bite you. Years ago I tore the muscles in my left shoulder loading logs on to a trailer. It eventually healed and had not bothered me for quite a while. Dis-abled wife needed help getting out of the walk-in shower and into her wheel chair. I had her about half way there when she panicked and went limp, throwing her full weight on that shoulder. Now it hurts a bunch. The dumb thing--Sitting in the next room was a gadget called a hoyer lift, a medical tool made for lifting and moving people. A jazzed up version of a shop engine hoist. wouldn't have taken but a few seconds to fetch it, what can I say...dumb..
Those old injuries suck LOL -- they are biting me something fierce now....My dad tells me it's called 'old age' LOL Thanks Dad.
I did something dumb but it wasn't today! lol it was in November but I only just found out it was dumb this past weekend. If you've seen any of my latest cabin videos you know what it was ;) but for those who haven't, I left the taps open in the bathroom (sink) after winterizing the cabin, blowing out the lines and shutting off the main valve from the gravity water system............
Seems there was a drip and the system was slowing dripping away...and then it froze in the drain and backed up....until the sink was full and then overflowed onto the floor....
Lucky for me it wasn't too big a flood before I discovered it and a little clean up etc and I think I'll be ok but won't completely know until the spring that ;)
:-[
Boy did I pull a boneheaded one a couple of weeks ago. I sawed for my best repeat customer. He is a very high end furniture and cabinetmaker. Every month between November and March, I saw walnut, cherry and ash logs he collects. Occasionally he throws in a cedar or poplar for drawer parts Some months I saw twice if he has logs.
When I wrote his invoice at the end of the last sawing session some kind of "fuzzy math" moment struck me. I wrote the invoice, he paid me and we went on our way. For two weeks it sort of occupied a corner in my mind.
Yesterday before I went to saw for him again, I pulled my copy and sure enough there was my "fuzzy math". I had told my customer that my rate went up first of the year so he didn't think about it. But my rate had not gone up $20 per hour!
Yesterday when we finished up, I told him about my error and discounted that invoice with s "pre payment". We laughed shook hands and scheduled another sawing date.
It was dumb and embarrassing 😳 but easier to admit it and correct it than live with it. I don't "need" the money and the idea of losing a very good customer over my mistake would have hurt my reputation more than the money is worth.
@pineywoods (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4000) yeah the Hoyer lifts come in handy often. Often we will run EMS calls to calls where they need help getting up or down or whatever the case may be. Sometimes the pt. ends up getting a hoyer lift and it makes it easier for them and us in the future.
My most recent dumb things were a few weeks ago finding a check that someone had paid me with for sawing. It wasn't a large check, but it was from March of last year. The check is no good. I contacted the man through his son and asked if he would mind writing me a new check, but I"m not gonna press the issue.
The other thing was coming home from 2 days at work and finding the kiln/shed door open with the light on. Luckily there is nothing running in there right now. I had sold something out of there one day in the middle of sawing and got the white oak out for a customer and helped him carry it to his truck. Went right back to sawing and forgot all about the door. I asked my family if they noticed a strange light coming from behind the camper for 2 days.
I sawed for a repeat customer last fall who explained that he was in a really good mood that morning because he had just found $5000 in his truck door pocket that he had forgotten was there.
Sooo, how does anybody put 5 g's in the door pocket and forget about it? Inquiring minds need to know!
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Sooo, how does anybody put 5 g's in the door pocket and forget about it? Inquiring minds need to know!
Right. Hopefully he looked high and low for it and just didn't find it, as opposed to totally forgetting he had $5000 in cash.
Reminds me of the tale of the guy who rolled up several $100 bills and stuck them in the end of his shotgun for safe storage and did not remember till he shot at a rabbit, duck or grouse or something. ::)
:D :D :D. As best I understood he just forgot about it and a number of months later had a pleasant surprise. Interpreting what I know, I think he was very distracted by being in the middle of a divorce which possibly explained the stashing away, and then the forgetting, as he had other things on his mind.
I was doing some wiring in dad's garage workshop when I got a rather unpleasant surprise. After my heart stopped racing double time I investigated and found my 15 yr old sister had popped the breaker to her room, found one off on the panel and switched it on. She had hidden a coin under the bulb in her bedside lamp and forgotten about it. That earned her a good tongue lashing. ::)
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on February 08, 2022, 02:07:52 PM
I sawed for a repeat customer last fall who explained that he was in a really good mood that morning because he had just found $5000 in his truck door pocket that he had forgotten was there.
Dennis, you should have said "Well, you DO look really happy! If you want to see what your face looks like, just give me half and we can BOTH be that happy!"
I mean, if he 'forgot' about 5k, he probably didn't need or miss it very much.
Back in the 70's my uncle a fish buyer came to town to pay the the lobster fishermen that he had been getting lobsters from, he had some time to kill so he stopped by our house for a visit. After a while talking to my Dad and drinking a coffee he says "Oh I left some money in a paper bag on the seat of my truck, do you think it's ok?" (door unlocked and key in the ignition too) Dad says "should be" to which my uncle replies "I hope so, there is about one hundred thousand in there.
Where I work you could leave $100k on the break room table for a week. But don't get up from the table and leave a donut and expect it to be there when you get back! :D
Had a bad day Sunday. It was only my second log ever, the first went very well last weekend, but the second was a bad one for me.
First there was still snow on the ground, and the log was frozen to the dirt. I should of skipped trying to mill it, but I put a goal of one log every sunday and tried to live up to that.
This log was 8ft long, probably around 27" diameter on the bigger end. It was a pain just getting it rolling from where it was frozen. My 60" logrite couldn't budge the sucker, finally used my 6ft steel pry bar and freed it. While hand winching it up the ramps it got a little crooked and before i realized it slipped off the ramp, and I thought for sure the winch cable was gonna snap and hurt me. It did not, and the log ended up turning almost 90 degrees and pointing upwards in the air....
Pretty scary moment, I was able to loosen the winch cable and carefully roll it back to the ground with my logrite.
Repositioned the log a bit, as well as the winch cable and started rolling it back up the ramps. Once again it was crooked and I wanted to let it back down. The hand crank winch is something Im not familiar with. I hit the switch to unwind and the handle spun rapidly smacking my forearm hard due to the weight on the line. Stupid mistake! Reposition, and roll the log up again. Now I had to chainsaw a chunk off just to clear the saw itself, and finally got her on the bunks. The log was dirty and I wanted to hose it off. Unfortunately the hose was frozen stiff, and i filled a 5 gallon bucket 3 or 4 times with water to clean the log.
Finally made a few passes, and Im ready to rotate the log, but I simply cant. My 60" logrite was no match for rolling this log. After about ten minutes of wrestling with it I gave up and cut slabs. This log kicked my ass.
All I wanted from this log was a ton stickers. Instead I made a bunch of slabs and put them on the mill sideways to edge them and then I hit a log dog. *DanG.....
A lot of mistakes were made, and a lot of lessons learned. Definitely should have spent the day putting the battery on the mill along with the electric winch instead of wrestling a log in the snow to no avail.
I don't think you had a bad day at all, but I wasn't there. ;D Sounds like you had a typical day for somebody just working their way into the learning curve. Welcome to the crowd! :D There are many many folks here that had the same day as you did in the past. It's just part of the game. Nothing broke, nobody got hurt, and you got some milling done while learning a whole lot about your setup. I call that a winner.
Don't get down on yourself. This IS the game, learn and move on. Next Sunday I bet is different.
D87,
Well done! You've already hit the side supports. That is a rite of passage all of us go through (or at least the ones who will admit it). Next you need to roll a log up with the side supports down and completely over to the other side.
It does bring up the topic of turning logs. A couple of the common methods when working alone is to chock one end and spin the other end which will move that end closer the direction rolled. You may have to do this a couple of times to get it lined up where you want it.
Another technique is to roll the log up on a 2X4 or handy limb or such near the center of balance on the log so that both ends are off the ground. Then you can just spin the log on the pivot point in the direction you want it to go.
As long as nobody was hurt and no serious damage to equipment just chalk it up as a learning experience. There will be more and some will be harsher lessons.
Well, at least you didn't hit yourself in the forehead with the winch handle like someone did on the Forum...
You might feel like you did something dumb but I'd say you got an education by trying. Days like that are instructive if we can see the lessons to be learned. You didn't go anywhere most of the rest of us haven't been.
Some days around the mill are just harder than others. Knowing when to quit and go do something else will come with experience.
Quote from: sawguy21 on February 08, 2022, 02:10:45 PM
Sooo, how does anybody put 5 g's in the door pocket and forget about it? Inquiring minds need to know!
I have done the same with $500 in the center console. Put it in there to look at something to maybe buy. I don't keep it on me when looking at stuff cause you never know. Didn't end up buying it and forgot about it till I was cleaning the vehicle.
I had a tenant who worked at the local recycler; at the time they took more than construction debris, and someone had tossed some old junk that contained $15 or 20k. How did they forget that?
I'm with these guys, Daburner. The dumb thing would have been not to try. Big logs are tough for anyone. A great big log caused me to do $650 damage to my tractor a few years ago. You can be sure I posted about that here on this thread. I've never used a winch like you do to get logs on the mill. Do your ramps that you're using have little traction spikes to keep the log from sliding? If not, I would add that.
@Daburner87 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=52608) , are you using a single or double cable for parbuckling your logs up? I always use a double and that helps to keep the log straighter and minimize slipping. just make a half loop, pull it up under the log, then attach your winch to the center of the loop. That might help.
Where are you in NY? I didn't see it in the profile. I'm in Ulster county.
Daburner,
Go ahead, now, and order the Logrite 78" mega hook. It is an essential tool to turn the big logs without hurting yourself :). You will not believe how much more you can do alone with it versus just the 60" logrite.
Had my moment yesterday. Needed to push snow with my dozer, so decided to bust out and replace the old battery in it to the tune of a couple hundred bucks. After pushing snow I removed the new battery, as I didn't want to take the chance of it freezing as it sat out the rest of winter. I sat it on the front rack of my 4 wheeler and drove back to my shop holding it with my left hand. Arriving at the shop I removed my hand. The battery promptly slid off the rack, hit the frozen ground, and busted the case wide open. DANG :'(
That sounds like something I might have done. ::)
Dang! I guess you won't have to worry about the battery freezing. :-\
If you paid with a credit card some have purchase warranty that may apply.
Boo to that chet!
That reminds me of something I did a million years ago. My grandmother had passed away a few weeks earlier and she had found a perfume that was just the right mix for her (I've come to find it's likely a pretty popular grandma perfume). I loved giving her a hug and getting just a tiny whiff of that perfume (I've got a weird dog nose that's pretty sensitive). That smell was my grandma. Well, one of my aunts was sweet enough to think of me upon finding a tiny little bottle of her perfume, which she gave me, so I could smell it whenever I wanted to think of my grandma. I took it home and sat it on my bathroom sink, where it sat for weeks. One day I realized that that was a likely spot to get knocked over, so I go to stick it up in the medicine cabinet where it was much less likely to be knocked around. Wouldn't you know it, when I went to pick it up it slipped out of my hand and shattered into the sink?
I've done stuff like that more times than I can count and it's to the point now where if I have a feeling of "oh, that'd be better over here" I'm very wary of actually moving it.
Yep Physics is a cruel mistress. I sprang a leak on my Kubota and after fixing it I was refilling the oil. I wedged the funnel in the area and poured in oil from my 5 gal container. Sure enough, just past halfway of filling the funnel it fell spilling oil on my boot and the gravel. Now I have to lube up the right boot to keep them looking the same. And I have a dark patch in the gravel reminding me I did something dumb on a day not so long ago.
I take it you never dumped in all new oil, only to discover you had not replaced the drain plug yet. ::) On a 453 Detroit no less, that takes just a tad more than 5 quarts. :-\
Quote from: chet on February 09, 2022, 02:09:14 PM
I take it you never dumped in all new oil, only to discover you had not replaced the drain plug yet. ::) On a 453 Detroit no less, that takes just a tad more than 5 quarts. :-\
quarts or gallons?
I did that with dad's mower, he wasn't happy.
Nope, never done that kind of oil spill. I did get distracted one day at work while making a new batch of coffee. After pouring the water into the machine, its best to put the pot on the hot plate under the coffee drain instead of back in the sink.
:D
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 09, 2022, 02:44:44 PM
Quote from: chet on February 09, 2022, 02:09:14 PM
I take it you never dumped in all new oil, only to discover you had not replaced the drain plug yet. ::) On a 453 Detroit no less, that takes just a tad more than 5 quarts. :-\
quarts or gallons?
Many, many, many, many quarts.
Got a fire call during the oil change. Came back hours later, still rattled from the fatality connected with the call, and started dumping oil.
Literally :(
Quote from: chet on February 09, 2022, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 09, 2022, 02:44:44 PM
Quote from: chet on February 09, 2022, 02:09:14 PM
I take it you never dumped in all new oil, only to discover you had not replaced the drain plug yet. ::) On a 453 Detroit no less, that takes just a tad more than 5 quarts. :-\
quarts or gallons?
Many, many, many, many quarts.
Got a fire call during the oil change. Came back hours later, still rattled from the fatality connected with the call, and started dumping oil. Literally :(
I changed the oil in one of my trucks years ago and did not check for the old filter gasket. Filled the truck with the 15 quarts of oil it held. Most of those quarts ended up on my driveway and came out under pressure.
Heh firefighter, I recounted doing much the same up above. In my case, it was quite a lot of hydraulic oil on my new shop floor.
Note to self... don't do that!
The man with waterproof boots says nothing :)
On long canthooks and unbounded testosterone. One of my rotator tears was a 60" canthook on a 3' or so oak. I hit a branch stub down on the carriage when I was way up. It rebounded, I failed to make the turn and as the log rolled back I realized I was on the cracking end of the whip. An inch of rotation of the log is now a foot of travel at the far end of the handle where I was trying to bravely back up at a trot and get out from under the handle. When you go into the football pass position, hand getting behind you, with a heavy "football" you're gonna pop. Don't let that long handle get you up too high, chock and rechuck.
Man this thread is getting a lot of traffic lately. Must be the 'winter thing'.
Saturday after the ice storm, I wanted to warm up and defrost the truck. Tried the drovers door...frozen shut, went to the rear door, same thing, then the other 2 doors, all frozen and would not budge. I was pretty ticked off. Went back to the drivers doors and put a little more effort into it. The truck was covered in 1/4" of ice, but still I can usually slowly work at least one door open. Then it dawned on me....
Yup, works better if you unlock the doors. I never lock the truck at home, must have sat on the button or something. No photos, so it really didn't happen anyway or else I would feel really dumb.
Yeah but oil coming out under pressure is a far sight worse than it just running out a drain hole. Either you steam clean the truck or pick up about 10 pounds of grit on the underside.
I really do appreciate all the kind words because I've been bummed out about it the last day or two. I live in Suffolk County, NY.
I was thinking to order that mega hook, but I'm hoping my winch can do all the hard work for me going forward. Had a bit of time to play with it today, I just mounted it to my former "hand crank" winch post, and figured out the wiring. Gonna skip the quick disconnects I mentioned in another thread and just use some heavy gauge jumper cables instead.
I will be back at it this weekend if I can and hopefully with better results.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on February 09, 2022, 07:18:38 AM
@Daburner87 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=52608) , are you using a single or double cable for parbuckling your logs up? I always use a double and that helps to keep the log straighter and minimize slipping. just make a half loop, pull it up under the log, then attach your winch to the center of the loop. That might help.
Where are you in NY? I didn't see it in the profile. I'm in Ulster county.
Do you have a picture of the double cable method you use OG? I was only using a single cable.
Daburner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parbuckle_salvage
Also
Sycamore Parbuckling - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSOpRdgUGw)
One of the first things I did on my mill was hit the log dog. I stood there for a minute or two just thinking about how I needed to develop a routine for checking things prior to each cut. Now its second nature, lean to the left, look, lean to the right, look. When the mill head stops, don't push harder!
Quote from: Daburner87 on February 09, 2022, 08:06:38 PM
I really do appreciate all the kind words because I've been bummed out about it the last day or two. I live in Suffolk County, NY.
I was thinking to order that mega hook, but I'm hoping my winch can do all the hard work for me going forward. Had a bit of time to play with it today, I just mounted it to my former "hand crank" winch post, and figured out the wiring. Gonna skip the quick disconnects I mentioned in another thread and just use some heavy gauge jumper cables instead.
I will be back at it this weekend if I can and hopefully with better results.
Aw geez, you shouldn't get bummed out by that at all. Yes, it's a little disappointing to not be able to do what you set out for or running into difficulties, but this is part of the 'game' and you just have to laugh a little, accept it, and move on. Every one of us has learned the same exact way. You can't be an expert right out of the gate, no matter how much thought and study you put into it. If it was easy, nobody would buy lumber at Lowes. :D
I don't use a parbuckle system on my mill, I have a nice ramp and it's easy (?) with the logrite to get them up. But I do use the system I described to get logs up on my pile. I had no photos but I did recall shooting a video of it about a year and a half ago. I am uploding it now and will post it here when available.
That went quicker than I thought. You may have to pause the video to figure out how the cable runs go, but it's very simple. Let me know if there are any confusing parts. This is a log pile, but on a mill it would pretty much be the same, with a lot less load on the winch of course.
Parbuckling logs up onto the pile. - YouTube (https://youtu.be/FSWN5pXLEmY)
Don't discount the "kind words". Recognize that we've been through the struggles. We do know how it feels.
So with that in mind, learn what it means to parbuckle logs onto the sawmill bed. Also think about what double blocks will do to increase your capacity to move logs. The science of block and tackle is worth knowing if you have more time than money (for heavy equipment to move logs). 😂
A set of 250 Amp Anderson connectors will give you a much better connection than jumper cables resulting in a happier winch, cooler leads, longer living battery, etc.
As far as hitting the backstop goes; there are two types of sawyers, those that try to cut off pieces of their sawmill with the sawmill, and those that lie about ever having done so. Welcome to the club. Rather than get mad about it, when someone is looking, these days I brag about just how sharp my bands are and how much HP my engine is putting out based on on how much carnage the latest strike created, and yes a 55 HP diesel will create a lot of carnage. :D FWIW stainless steel sure cuts hard. ::)
When I parbuckle logs up onto my trailer, I use chains going under the log attached to each side of the trailer. Both chains come together and hook to the winch cable. This does two things for me...prevents me from having to pull so much cable off the spool and stabilizes the log coming up the ramp.
This should probably go in a different spot, but oh was it "I did something dumb today".
We had just finished up running a bunch of pine shiplap on the table saw. I decided to be smart and clean the dado set right away. So I sprayed some tool cleaner on the blades, let it sit for a couple minutes, and then going to run some dry white oak thru to clean it up.
Note so self: go to bypass mode on sawstop when there's moisture involved.
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Was able to dig the dado set out and can be reused. Only chipped one carbide on a blade, but won't forget that anytime soon.
Is that the replaceable stop mechanism?
That's interesting that that will happen, but I guess it makes sense. It looks like the the blade wasn't going full speed when it triggered. When I triggered mine on the dado set, it ruined one of the outer blades and one of the chippers. I ended up buying a whole new set. My dumb move cost me about $300 for new cartridge and a new dado set. I hit my miter gauge because I forgot to re-set the clearance for the dado.
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) yes that's the cartridge that stops the blade. It tips forward into the blade. The teeth imbed into the honeycombed aluminum and it can also squish where you see the bigger holes to absorb some of the force. I have one like that hanging on my wall as a reminder unfortunately.
SawStop saws were just beginning to be purchased in school shops when I moved to state administration of Career and Technical Education. I haven't seen one in operation but have been thinking about buying one.
It was kind of a nobrainer when I got mine. I wanted to upgrade to a 3hp cabinet saw. It is a great saw, even without the safety mechanism and its comparable in price to a powermatic.
I've got an old Delta Unisaw and have been mulling a move over to the Sawstop as well.
Several local guys have said that the saw is really top notch in terms of being well designed, accurate and an all round smooth powerhouse. They considered the safety features to be an added bonus.
I've wondered though, does anyone know if the safety gets triggered by really fresh green lumber? EG: using the saw to straight line rip flitches fresh off the mill? . . . or is that a "by pass setting" situation?
There's really no definitive answer for that question. Sawstop won't give any kind of moisture cutoff. You may cut 100 pieces with out a problem and then bam. The saw has been known to trigger on wet treated wood, but that may have more to do with the chemicals in the wood. I would never try it. Even in bypass I won't cut wet wood on my saw. If you feel inclined to try it, you can put the saw in bypass and have someone watch the lights and it should indicate if the saw would have triggered. Then if you felt comfortable with it, then you could try it in regular mode, but I feel you're asking for trouble.
I have cut lots of air dried wood on my saw without any trouble, so I would suggest something like 12% moisture as a cutoff.
Good suggestions, thanks FFotS
Definitely use bypass mode for sawing green lumber.
I've been mid rip with treated on one when my light bulb came on, happily it didn't trip but that was asking for it. Dad said they got one for the shop at the "old folks" community which was good to hear. I'm pretty sure when he was a shop teacher they went out to the pit saw.
Quote from: Don P on February 14, 2022, 10:14:10 AM
I've been mid rip with treated on one when my light bulb came on, happily it didn't trip but that was asking for it. Dad said they got one for the shop at the "old folks" community which was good to hear. I'm pretty sure when he was a shop teacher they went out to the pit saw.
Don:
Just how many generations are there between you and your Dad?
My curious mind would like to know.
GAB
I know there's a split in table saw owners in that they either hate the idea of the sawstop or really like it. I know there were some politics involved with the company at one time. We've got the ICS 3 HP model and all I know is the thing is a top notch saw, built like a tank and all the power we'll ever need. We've pushed over 5,000 lf thru it (I need a power feed) in the short time we've had it and it just works. I've used it in by-pass mode a couple times when I thought some stock may be in question, but that works too, as long as you don't forget it :o.
Where is the light located? It indicates when the saw would trigger the blade drop and lock, right? Can you see the bulb when hand feeding stock into the blade?
On the switch box in front there is the regular paddle switch to start the saw, there is also a system power switch that I leave on all the time and there are 2 little lights. Red and green. With the main power on and the saw not running, I can touch the blade and the red light will go on telling me it is working. Bypass is done with a key and a series of key turns timed just right. It is not easy to do and won't happen on accident. As soon as you turn the saw off, it goes back to regular mode and will have to re-activate bypass each time. I use bypass very seldom and have to read the instructions each time I do it.
I kind of had an attitude at first about sawstop. "I know what I'm doing and I don't need that, but then it occurrred to me that accidents happen to the best of us" Plus, its a top notch saw and therefore I wasn't just paying for the safety device, but a great and powerful saw.
I really like the sawstop and have thought alot about getting older, having kids, and how my mind likes to wander. Just the thought of being in the shop with the kids and them bumping into my when running a board through makes me want one very much.
Plus I became quite intimate with them at one of the AWI woodworking shows I was working when my booth was right across the aisle from theirs. I watched alot of demos and talked to the sales guys alot. After 3 days I decided one day I want one. but until I have a dedicated wood shop that doesn't have steel grinder dust and machining chips in it I cannot justify it.
During the demo the guys used the same blade. It had easily been stopped 100 times and it was not damaged beyond use.
I think my biggest risk in the shop is people coming in when i'm running a machine and I get startled. My family knows not to come in when there's a machine running, but occasionally it could be someone coming to buy something or a delivery person.
Today I remembered that I needed to do some work on my winch on the trailer to be able to use it for loading some logs. The last time I used it one of the studs for attaching the battery started spinning when I thought I was just loosening the nut. I had to take the end of the motor off and expose the magnets. I discovered that by spinning that stud, one of the wires from the stud to the magnet had broken off. I managed to solder on a new wire, but boy was it difficult to get it all re-installed with those spring loaded magnets. I finally got it all back together and must have reversed the polarity. In was out and out was in on my controls. I guess I can just reverse the polarity at the battery end now and make it work right. I am NOT taking it apart again. I will buy a new winch before I do that.
That sounds like you installed the commutator plate 90* out.
That would put the connections at 12 and 6. They have always been 3 and 9, so the only possibility is that I installed it 180deg wrong.
FFOTS, all my big tools face the door to come in, and I have a leather strap with jingle bells hanging on the door handle. :snowball:
I'm with Doc on this one!
If possible, arrange the power tools so that when in use, you are facing the door!
At my sharpening bench, the way it's built-in, I face directly away from the doorway, (there is no door) so I mounted one of the large convex mirrors from an old school bus so that if someone steps into that area, I'll see them!
Do you have short, dark green vinyl, "couches" in your shop too? ;D
Quote from: Don P on February 14, 2022, 10:14:10 AM
I've been mid rip with treated on one when my light bulb came on, happily it didn't trip but that was asking for it. Dad said they got one for the shop at the "old folks" community which was good to hear. I'm pretty sure when he was a shop teacher they went out to the pit saw.
Sounds like something my son would say.
I'm back 🙈 I was working with a friend yesterday and was hold a board in place with my right hand and running the nail gun with my left. (I'm right handed) anyway, the first nail hit its mark, but I got a bonus that was about an inch off and at an angle that was in perfect alignment with my thumb. Thanks to my cat like reflexes, I was able to rip it out sideways 🙈 will be sore for a few days, but shouldn't slow me down any on my way to posting here again 🤓
I cringe while reading these miscues. Unfortunately, as a newbie, I think I have personally encountered every one, especially the left-thumb/right-thumb blunders. 🤪
I had two customers have horrific tablesaw accidents. Both were experienced woodworkers. The 2nd one was especially bad. I thought about that for about a day, then decided life was too short, and so was my rest of the time on earth too. I sold my Delta and got the sawstop. Now I have two. One in my workshop at my house and one at the sawmill 3/4 mile away.
It is amazing how many times you need to use a tablesaw when it is 3/4 mile away.
@Ron47 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=59504) Welcome and stick around! You will learn all kinds of ways to hurt yourself and lots of other stuff too.
Well, I didn't get far this morning before doing the dumbest thing I've done in a long time. I packed up my gear to go load some logs on my trailer. I put the battery in the truck. I had to move around a big ratchet strap in the back and apparently I dropped the ratchet on top of the battery. I drove down the road a couple miles and heard a pop. I stopped and checked the trailer tires, because I thought maybe one had blown. Tires all good I headed down the road and figured something had moved around in the back of the truck. I got where I was going and went to pull the battery out and saw that it had blown the top off and the ratchet was scorched and part of the strap burned. Not good luck. Turned around and went back home, but stopped at O'Reillys and bought a new battery and battery case. Luckily they took the battery from me. Now to clean up the battery acid in the truck.
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that'll get you attention in a hurry.
It will also make you really angry at yourself.
I have plenty of wrenches and screwdrivers with scorch marks on them from setting on top of the battery and bumping them.
I did something dumb yesterday and got away with it - does that count?
My wife and I work together. I cut blocks and she splits them into the tractor bucket. When cutting, I usually cut 3-4 logs from the face of the pile, then stack the blocks behind me at the end of the stringers in a "wall" for my wife to split from, then cut another 3-4 logs and repeat. She normally gives me a 20 min headstart so I can get a few blocks ahead, that way she doesn't have to stand around before splitting.
I was cutting away on the log pile, and had a 4' high 8' long wall of blocks built up. And the "vertical face" of the log pile was getting to the point that I was feeling uncomfortable. Rather than play dodge-log with a running saw, I set my 562XP down safely behind the wall of blocks and grabbed my canthook. Standing well off to the side, I selected what was clearly the lynch pin log and gave it a twist. JENGA! The whole log pile came down as planned, and logs rolled out along the stringers nicely - right into the wall of stacked blocks, KNOCKING IT OVER!! Fortunately none of the blocks landed a direct hit on my saw. But it could have ended differently.
Lesson learned - a wall of stacked blocks is not a suitable barrier to protect anything behind!
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Batteries and metal, hmmmmm
Almost 40 years ago, my business partner then, built a boat. He took an old fiberglass 16' hull and completely rebuilt it. New teak gunnels, seats, flat floor, storage, carpet, did a real nice job. Found a good 35 hp Johnson Seahorse tiller for it, rebuilt a roller trailer to fit and we were set. Maiden voyage, loaded our cooler, tackle, rods and headed out for the day.
The lake was about 1 hour away, beautiful day. We're about 40 minutes down the road, on a 4 lane, and someone pulls alongside his truck waving frantically and pointing back. Looked in the mirror to see flames and smoke behind us. He got pulled over, and by the time he got the fire extinguisher out of the truck, the fire was really going. He got it put out, but by that time, the back half of the boat was gone, the tires had burnt off the trailer, and everything in the boat was toast. The starter battery for the motor had side posts, and the fuel tank had rubbed up against it, game over!! :o :o
Oh No! Yikes and Yikes!
I've only had one battery explode, a friend borrowed my truck and tried to jump start a 24V tractor with it. He called to tell me my truck wouldn't start. I went over and checked it out. The side of the battery was blown out. He said something like, "I wondered what that explosion was." We both learned something that day. I learned not to loan stuff to that friend and he learned that truck batteries are expensive! :o
Glad the wife wasn't near the logs that rolled! When my wife is helping around the sawmill, with firewood or on the farm, my biggest fear is that she gets hurt. Even bigger is that she gets hurt by something I do/don't do.
Cover those battery posts! Battery boxes are worth every penny. A buddy of mine had something similar happen but he caught it before it was very bad. His battery box on his boat has some external connections to allow connection of house circuits. If I recall correctly his fishing pliers shorted across those external connections on the box. He caught it before it was a fire but the pliers were very hot and smoking. He found that out when he reached in to move the pliers.
i definitely plan to use the new battery box cover!
When I was in voc ed the instructor took us to the automotive shop. A student with a cigarette in his mouth had leaned over a charging battery to make sure all the cells were bubbling. He was badly burned but his goggles saved his eyes. What a mess! I have no idea why he was smoking in the shop but it stopped after that.
Hydrogen gas will do that. Ouch.
Yeah back in my poor days of college, I had a cheap battery in my car. The kind that only lasted half of what they said it would, then pro-rated and replaced with another just as crap battery. I was jump starting it and applied the clamps like I always do when the top flew off the battery and acid rain happened in my engine compartment. Everything was speckled with acid damage. I knew enough to hold my breath and move away. To this day I still apply the jumper clamps at arms length.
Connect the ground last and disconnect first.
Quote from: sawguy21 on February 15, 2022, 02:54:44 PMConnect the ground last and disconnect first.
I though you first tested them by touching both to your tongue together!! smiley_jester say_what
If you can connect the ground (last) on the vehicle being boosted to somewhere other than the battery it is the safest option then you are not creating a spark at the battery.
Quote from: Crossroads on February 15, 2022, 09:26:56 AM
I'm back 🙈 I was working with a friend yesterday and was hold a board in place with my right hand and running the nail gun with my left. (I'm right handed) anyway, the first nail hit its mark, but I got a bonus that was about an inch off and at an angle that was in perfect alignment with my thumb. Thanks to my cat like reflexes, I was able to rip it out sideways 🙈 will be sore for a few days, but shouldn't slow me down any on my way to posting here again 🤓
I have had about 3 patients come in that shot a framing nail through their hand and into the 2x, and the team had to cut a few feet of a 2x4 off the wall. the pt. comes in with the nail still holding the wood to their hand. local and systemic pain meds, and some pliers.
I have a conveyor for my log splitter that runs off 12 V and I charge it off the motor on the splitter. I used to use a 20 foot set of cables my dad gave me in my 20s to go from the splitter battery to the one on the conveyor. I also had adapted to the exhaust and ran a pipe to a small car muffler that shoots away from the splitter. one day the cables got against the exhaust, and before I could do anything, the terminals mostly melted away. I have now replaced it with fleet wire connections and cable that is fastened down. I can charge from the splitter, or the front or back of my truck. I could also jump my truck off the splitter or the conveyor. tuff times. :)
Doc,
I feel your pain. A year or so back I melted the lead terminal on a lawn mower battery and the cable terminal in a similar fashion while jumping it off.
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The best one I've seen was when I was an EMT there was a guy walking with a framing gun, with his finger on the trigger. His heel came up and bumped the safety, sending a 16 penny nail through the back of his boot and into his foot.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on February 15, 2022, 10:54:11 PM
Doc,
I feel your pain. A year or so back I melted the lead terminal on a lawn mower battery and the cable terminal in a similar fashion while jumping it off.
I felt bad as these (jumper cables) were a gift my dad gave each of us three boys. the clamps were kind of toast. the cable was good and I used it on the revamped conveyor application. I have had them over 40 years. It was a stop gap to use them between the splitter and conveyor as I always planned to do the universal connections like were on my truck. I used them on the front and back of my truck and could also put my winch on the front or back 2 inch receiver. so I guess I can run the winch off the log splitter of the conveyor as well. we are all lucky to be alive. it is a fine line to almost harm ourselves and learn in the process. or take no chances and know nothing, or die trying stupid stuff.
Quote from: Crossroads on February 15, 2022, 10:55:41 PM
The best one I've seen was when I was an EMT there was a guy walking with a framing gun, with his finger on the trigger. His heel came up and bumped the safety, sending a 16 penny nail through the back of his boot and into his foot.
that is a dance you do not see too often. ED docs need to smile on occasion too! :) :) :)
we had a scout meeting tonight, in prep for a winter camporee. there will be competition. one of which is fire starting. so we practiced many including the 9V battery and steel wool, with dryer lint ect. ect.
Quote from: doc henderson on February 15, 2022, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: Crossroads on February 15, 2022, 09:26:56 AM
I'm back 🙈 I was working with a friend yesterday and was hold a board in place with my right hand and running the nail gun with my left. (I'm right handed) anyway, the first nail hit its mark, but I got a bonus that was about an inch off and at an angle that was in perfect alignment with my thumb. Thanks to my cat like reflexes, I was able to rip it out sideways 🙈 will be sore for a few days, but shouldn't slow me down any on my way to posting here again 🤓
I have had about 3 patients come in that shot a framing nail through their hand and into the 2x, and the team had to cut a few feet of a 2x4 off the wall. the pt. comes in with the nail still holding the wood to their hand. local and systemic pain meds, and some pliers.
Was just texting about such an experience the other day with another member. Managed to do that to my left index finger up on a ladder one time, no insurance, but had pliers and the phone number to a corpsman buddy from days gone by. He tells me to start reading off what I have so I look in the cow meds fridge and go bottle by bottle, lets just say after telling him how much his choice in antibiotics stung - THEN, while frantically laughing, he tells me I could have mixed lidocaine with it to take the edge off, had not made it to that bottle before he said "yup - use that, it might sting but you won't get an infection."
Luckily that never happened again.
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That sounds like fun! There are a lot of creative fire starters around, one that caught me by surprise was walnuts, they lite easy and burn quite a while. The one I carry in my hunting pack is cotton balls saturated in petroleum jelly. I cut straws into about 1 1/2" sections the burn and crimp 1 end then stuff a saturated cotton ball in, then burn and crimp the other end. When you need to use it, cut the end and feather out a few strands and hit it with a metal match.
Dang SS, with friends like that who needs enemies lol one things for sure, if it stings , ya know it's doing something.
In my college days i worked at an RV factory. Helped get my roommate a job there one summer. He nailed two fingers together with a framing stapler. I drove him to the country doctors office a few miles away. Doc Abel opened a drawer looked like could have been from my dads shop got out a side cutters and pliers cut the staple in two and pulled out the pieces, only difference was he had some pain killer too. ::)
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I went to Oreillys Autoparts hoping to find a connection like that to use. They didn't have anything remotely close. I will order something and have some connections sort of permanently mounted to the battery and winch and maybe even the charger to make it more fool(me) proof.
Oh boy that would burn.... :o
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 16, 2022, 07:26:40 AM
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I went to Oreillys Autoparts hoping to find a connection like that to use. They didn't have anything remotely close. I will order something and have some connections sort of permanently mounted to the battery and winch and maybe even the charger to make it more fool(me) proof.
They are commonly referred to as Anderson Power Pole connectors.
They come in several sizes rated per amperage.
Where I have seen them most is in battery connections on things like electric fork trucks, floor scrubbers etc.
My BIL branded his wedding band to his finger jumping the dead car on their honeymoon :D.
After a few nail incidents at work with others going to the doc, if it's "just a flesh wound" I've not gone in. I've hit bone but never gotten a nail stuck, it did knock the feeling out of that finger tip for a long time. We sent one in when the nail penetrated the bone. It didn't shatter which was our fear at the time, the bone was porous enough to act more like wood. My best man hit one of the main nerves in his hand, that did some damage. Those are the ones to go in for. A couple of times the glue from the nail has worked out of me later, itchy, whoo boy. "cc sinker" cement coated sinker, its a thermosetting glue. Punctures always bear attention, you're sticking dirt in deep but that glue and gun oil must be pretty clean.
I got the first set at a diesel pickup place I use, and had them installed for and aft on my truck. you can get them on amazon, and I agree with getting a good brand like Anderson. that is what I have. I also got covers to keep them clean when not in use. my jumpers in the truck have an end replaced with one, and I do not need to raise my hood to jump myself or others. I just plug in. it is best to have a resettable breaker, incase of a short. the short end off the cables have one also so I can plug it back onto the long end, and have a regular set of cables with a clamp on both ends.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 16, 2022, 07:26:40 AM
I went to Oreillys Autoparts hoping to find a connection like that to use. They didn't have anything remotely close. I will order something and have some connections sort of permanently mounted to the battery and winch and maybe even the charger to make it more fool(me) proof.
Orion Motor Tech Wire Connector 2 Pack, 50A Wire Harness Plug Kit for 6 to 12 Gauge Cables
Found on Amazon
Edit: removed link for reason doc henderson noticed about a link. And his amp selection may be better.
I used the 175 amp. the breakers that came with my winch, are wired under the hood of my truck to protect the system.
I put the link on but it looked like it had our account logged in. you can find them on amazon, and if you ordered in 7 hours, at the time I looked, you would have them by tomorrow.
search Anderson 175 amp connectors.
OK, it appears to be my turn in the hole...again. Last week we had some snow and I plowed but it wasn't a lot so I plowed a couple of spots in the back I didn't hit when we had the bigger snow because I had to get the Mule out back to take mushroom logs and clean up the big leader that came down on my drying rack in the ice storm. Anyway, I plowed over the area where I have a temporary air line running along the ground from the shed to the shop because the shop compressor blew up (motor) in July. I forgot about the hose until I was right over it, but looked down and it was still not visible under the snow, so the plow, I figured, went over it. I forgot about it. Well I have been sick in the house for 3 days and the temps warmed up and stuff melted. Today I ventured out and when I came around the back of the shop I found this.
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Guess I didn't miss it after all. >:( Glad I had shut that compressor off during the really frigid temps. Maybe this will encourage me to bury a proper line in the spring. Maybe.
Cheap temporary fix though, short piece of copper tubing and 2 hose clamps! :)
You may call that doing something dumb, but that falls in line with my average daily mayhem.
Had an appointment last night. While there started snowing and blowing. Going home made it fine until driveway. About 2 mph blowing so hard couldnt see road and slipped into ditch. Got ATV and gave wife ride to house. No problem call AAA in morning. AAA came and pulled car out no damage. Window was cracked open a bit and windshield frosted up inside over night. Too impaient to let it clear completely there was a crack open about 3 inches at the bottom and drove home once in yard turned too soon and caught bumper on guy wire of power pole. Broke a portion of front bumper off.
Yeesh. The school of hard knocks is always in session. An impatient man at the age of 78? Go figure.
Quote from: trapper on February 19, 2022, 12:56:58 PM
Had an appointment last night. While there started snowing and blowing. Going home made it fine until driveway. About 2 mph blowing so hard couldnt see road and slipped into ditch. Got ATV and gave wife ride to house. No problem call AAA in morning. AAA came and pulled car out no damage. Window was cracked open a bit and windshield frosted up inside over night. Too impaient to let it clear completely there was a crack open about 3 inches at the bottom and drove home once in yard turned too soon and caught bumper on guy wire of power pole. Broke a portion of front bumper off.
Look at it this way, Trapper. Catching that guy could have been MUCH worse, and costly. Spring is coming. :)
Whoever broke the bumper on the dump truck in a previous life and just bent it back flat is a hero in my eyes :D
I just have to move this thread back up....Just got done with a stint of call and have the weekend off. Been a pretty nice day for February about hit 50.. So just before dark I finished unloading the third and final trailer load of fire wood logs i was getting tired of it and came to the realization...... I had just spent the better part of the day working hard at making more work for myself later.. ::) I guess i'm set for firewood which is good, really good actually...... Then I went to unhook a trailer and the sliding part of the jack hung up in the tube a little. I was holding the pin in my left hand and gave it a little whack. Then it promptly freed itself directly into the ring fingernail bed of my right hand. Which for whatever reason was still perched on the edge of the block I sat under it. Now I have a nifty purple throbbing fingernail.
Sorry man, that sucks. Why is it when we have 'time off' we spend it making more work for ourselves and top that off by finding 'not so smart' things to slow us down.
I prescribe and alcohol soak, PO.
Self medicating with a pint of stout. :)
That's a start.
Ouch.
red hot poker! smiley_devil_trident
I just went and picked up an Woodmaster outdoor furnace off of craigslist. I made a sled to pull it onto my trailer. It was all going pretty well. I was able to jack up the furnace with my floor jack no problem. Got the sled rails under it, installed the cross braces and tried to winch it up onto my trailer.
The trailer is a landscaping type trailer with the drop down rear gate. I had beveled the sled rail to slide up onto the trailer but it still jammed. The gate end was on the concrete slab and I noticed that if I pulled forward a bit, the gate would be on the ground which was about an inch lower than the concrete. So I released the spool on the winch and pulled forward a bit.
I then went to winch it up on the trailer again but I had no battery power. I then found the battery under the trailer and the negative cable had pulled out of the connector lug. Its one of the two piece safety connectors. I had to finangle the lug out of the connector, drive a phillips screwdriver into the end to open it up again. The old fella I was buying the furnace from went and got a propane torch and some solder and we went at it. Burned the insulation on the cable pretty good but we got it back together.
The furnace went right up on the trailer after that. All things considered, a fairly painless outing. I still think about what would have happened if the battery did some arc welding while under the trailer. :-\ :-X
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) try 3ml of LA200 IM in your opposite arm. Guarantee you won't notice the pain in your finger any more. :D
Quote from: Nebraska on February 26, 2022, 09:24:25 PM
Self medicating with a pint of stout. :)
Now your talking. Hope your healing ❤️🩹 up
@rusticretreater (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=57554) did you see what I did to my battery last week and posted pics on here? I dropped a big ratchet strap on top of the battery in the back of my truck. The ratchet spanned the two terminals and caused the battery to explode. Part of the strap burned, but I'm guessing that when the battery blew up it put the fire out.
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) I will pass.
There's been more than one time I welded a wrench to a fender while tussling with battery terminals. I now have a designated wrench that is wrapped in tape.
Here's a funny YouTube about something that could have gone horribly wrong. I've watched a few of his builds. I like his style.
Big off road skates (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRBqGbCO1aw)
Looks like he needs to build a sawmill.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 01, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
Looks like he needs to build a sawmill.
:D :D :D :D :D
Now that's funny right there! ;D
I've gotta ask. Have you used the LA200 on yourself before Southside? I've hit some farm critters with it, and none of them seem to like it, but I've seen it put the curl back in a pigs tail more than once.
After accidentally shooting myself in the hand with a nail gun in the days of no insurance and no money it was the only option I had available to prevent infection. I didn't feel any pain in my hand any longer, and it put the curl back into my hair even though I have been bald since the early '90s.
Lol, glad you mended okay, I keep a new bottle on hand, just in case.
After ruining several blades by cutting my log stops I have been watching them pretty closely.Well today I was about ready to go to the house but I thought one more log as I had several on the deck and an order for 150 2"x4"s.Grabbed a can't hook and rolled one on the mill.Stops all the way down and log rolled off other side of the mill.When I designed my set up I didn't leave much room on offside figuring sawdust and slabs would be the only thing coming off.Wrong! :D.
Boy, I'm sure glad I never rolled one completely over my mill! ::) :D :D :D :D
I swear! I haven't done that. Well at least not twice in the same day
I think the only way to never hit your stops is to never put them up.
When the clutch is engaged both engine driven hydraulic pumps on my Super 70 are pushing oil to the tune of 18 GPM, I don't recall the pressure, but it's enough that we have trophy markers off the back side of the mill showing just how far logs have gone when launched up and over the backstops, that seems to give them more of an arc to get better distance than just tossing them flat off the back, or at least I have been told. ::)
Few days ago put myself in a bind-literally-where I was stuck but had no room behind the rears and the "stuck" was in front of me. 3 feet of sugar snow under front tires, right one down in a hole, and old wood deck steps now wedged behind left rear tire as tractor slid sideways as tires started to spin. The snow in front of the loose stuff was just the opposite, piled high days earlier and frozen into ice. No way, nowhere to go forward. Tire jammed in rear. Bucket push couldn't help in this situation.
So I's gets rocking, 2inches this way, turn steering wheel first this way, to bust out some tough snow on the left side that's hanging me up, but then back the other way REAL fast, so whole works wouldn't slide back down into hole.
On and on, HST oil had to be getting warm🥴, but gradually slightly changed the angle of the machine just enough.....that all I had to do was be willing to have the left rear tire back right up and over that step. Yisss, good times. Now, with bucket push and rear dif lock, up and over that step and on out of there. Gotta say, R4s are tough!
Would have been a long and cold walk up out of the woods, all the way to the neighbors, hope he's home, see if the skidder will start, see if we can dig me out of there.
I'm looking forward to having the faster hydraulics. Only 13 months to go
Quote from: Southside on March 03, 2022, 10:29:35 PM
When the clutch is engaged both engine driven hydraulic pumps on my Super 70 are pushing oil to the tune of 18 GPM, I don't recall the pressure, but it's enough that we have trophy markers off the back side of the mill showing just how far logs have gone when launched up and over the backstops, that seems to give them more of an arc to get better distance than just tossing them flat off the back, or at least I have been told. ::)
Chain turner at full RPM is very convenient to debark and de-stone some logs. If the logs are perfectly round. I can twirl small-medium ones at about 60 rpm give or take.
I did that yesterday, the customer insisted in scooting them around in muddy gravel. Bark and stones went flying.
Works only if the logs are perfectly round. If not, they go over the backstops. Then you have to start all over again.
I am starting to realize that a manual mill is probably best for me.If I had a hydraulic mill like a lot of you have I would have probably tore it all to pieces by now.Getting older and dumber :laugh:
But I don't want to admit how often I roll a log off because a stop fell.....................or I forgot to raise them.
I would love to have hydraulics, but then there are a lot of other pieces of equipment I would want too.
I still tear things up I'm just slower at it ;D ;D
Oh you don't have to have hydraulics to roll them off the backside of the mill....
Admiting for a friend.... ;)
He might have also knicked his clamp last night and dulled a blade just a little...
Quote from: Wlmedley on March 04, 2022, 12:48:17 PM
I am starting to realize that a manual mill is probably best for me.If I had a hydraulic mill like a lot of you have I would have probably tore it all to pieces by now.Getting older and dumber :laugh:
So I interpret this as saying hydraulics lets you make more impressive mistakes and make them much faster. Is that about right?
Kind of like saying the advantage of 4 wheel drive is it lets you get stuck in much more inaccessible places. :D
I think another way to sum it up is the say that "to err is human, but to really screw things up in a spectacular way, you need hydraulics". At least, that has been my experience. ;D
I got my helical head installed in my planer today. It wasn't too difficult as I followed along with a youtube video from the manufacturer of the head. I gave the middle finger to the machine at one point.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36921/received_647794949764700.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1646444093)
So its pretty sharp. Glad you didn't need an EMT.
I am glad you did not give the whole middle finger to the planer. ;)
Well Ise at it again. I have been clearing land for my new garage/workshop 30'x40' and have been locked in battle with some large tree stumps.
I got one of the two biggest loose today, but my tractor couldn't lift it or pull it out of the hole, even after I dug a ramp for it to slide up. So I went and got my pickup truck and my big winch.
Driving through the area is like a bomb scarred battlefield with stump holes everywhere. So I carefully steer into the area and then things come to a mighty abrupt halt. I found a stump at just the right height had wedged under the rear axle, just inside the tire with the shackle mounting bolts firmly embedded in the top of the stump. Truck wouldn't budge even in 4 wheel drive.
So I got my chainsaw, a floor jack, a jack stand and some support wood. Jacked it up, sawed off the stump with wood chips flying in my face, let it down and drove off the stump. I then had to whack it a few times with my sledge to knock the stump off of the bolts.
I did however, win in the end and got the stump out of the hole.
Not sure to classify as dumb or just an accident but it still hurts. I noticed a 12" ash tree in my pasture that had broken about halfway through up about 15-20 feet above ground. It had about 60' of top leaning in another tree in/over my travel path in my pasture which stopped it from breaking through so I decided yesterday it would be prudent to cut it for safety reasons. I sawed through with my chainsaw knowing it was going to kick back but I had the other tree there to block it. Sure enough when cut through it kicked and I stepped back and aside but tripped over a rock there and fell with my L arm stiff and jammed it. I am not sure if it is my shoulder or just where but it is sore and stiff and I can not raise it straight up even to my shoulder height. I don't see a bruise nor did anything hit hit. I did not break anything but it looks like it will be a while before it is back to normal. I dragged the tree down the hill to my woodshed and cut it up for firewood and likely got a week's worth of firewood from it. I even split the bottom 30' or so today with a maul so the arm still works but is sore and hard to raise.
Quote from: Wlmedley on March 04, 2022, 12:48:17 PM
I am starting to realize that a manual mill is probably best for me.If I had a hydraulic mill like a lot of you have I would have probably tore it all to pieces by now.Getting older and dumber :laugh:
You just buy a very tough hydraulic mill!
MrRetreater, that's quite an ordeal. I'm glad you were able to prevail in the end.
Quote from: KenMac on March 06, 2022, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: Wlmedley on March 04, 2022, 12:48:17 PM
I am starting to realize that a manual mill is probably best for me.If I had a hydraulic mill like a lot of you have I would have probably tore it all to pieces by now.Getting older and dumber :laugh:
You just buy a very tough hydraulic mill!
I worked as a heavy equipment mechanic for over 40 years.Before I retired I thought that there was nothing I couldn't fix.Now I think that there is nothing I can't tear up :embarassed:
Well, it's my turn in the barrel...again. This one took a few days to accomplish, I really worked at it. ;D
First, it is well documented that of all the things I do over the course of time, I hate painting the most, in fact it is one of the few thigs I hate at all. SO I built these two Mushroom inoculation table systems for a client and although I need to make 4 more drilling benches (because I already sold two) I also have to paint them. These things are nothing but corners and edges, miserable painting work, from my perspective. I had wanted to do them outside with an airless sprayer, but it will be a while before the weather cooperates for that, so a brush it was.
Anyway, they need painting but the paint and color is not critical, just to protect the wood and help it last a little longer living outside. I talked the customer into exterior latex in whatever I could find in the 'oops rack' (returned custom colors). So about 3 weeks ago I bought a gallon for 10 bucks. The other day I saw it on the table and realized I had bought interior paint. I thought about using it anyway, but decided that would be wrong. Yesterday I found the PERFECT paint on the oops rack and HD. It was high end Behr waterproof Stain & Sealer. Plus the color was a perfect brown, exactly what I wanted. 8)I was gloating to myself.
Now it takes me a long time to use an entire gallon of paint, and I never thought I would use this up. Today I decided was the day to bite the bullet and get this done. Sure enough, it took all day to do all the detail work and, sure enough, the gallon got used up. It got used up before I could finish. So I painted everything but the bottom of the one saw horse. Plus I still have to go over it all and do touch up's.
So my 'something dumb' was that I got an expensive gallon of paint and now have the same of going back with the can and getting another gallon made up to match that color at about $47./gallon. Not what I planned by any means. But at least the customer gets some first class sealer on his job I never planned on.
No pictures and it didn't happen, right?
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Tom,
If color does not matter why try to match it? Make them camo pattern or tie tie and that way you never have to worry what matches.
I had a friend who said he knew a lady who buys all kinds of oddball dishes and silverware at flea markets and yard sales and when she has a dinner party or such she is real careful to make sure nobody ever gets a matching plate, dish or silverware. You can do the same with your mushroom stations. Just a thought.
BTW - we built some outdoor tables for our church when I was a teen and someone suggested we use the same kind of paint they had used on the last ones because they had stood up to the Fla weather for 40-50 years. (An old deacon told me later they had actually used the cheapest indoor paint they could find so don't discount that can of indoor paint out of hand! :D)
Howard, is the arm raising on its own yet?
Mine was over the weekend, in the last couple of free hours on Sunday I decided to knock over a few dead ash and a walnut. Just a few more inches... Bulldozers sink like a stone :D.
Don,
Every day I get a little more use in it. I assume it is the shoulder causing the problem. I can reach across to the front with no major problem but lifting straight out to my left or even reaching out level is hard to do. It is even hard to raise just to put a shirt on. I don't know which particular joint or muscle is the culprit. I have been able to split the ash firewood logs with a maul but basically I am lifting my injured left arm with my right arm when I raise the splitting maul. Driving it down is not a problem. What is it they say - getting old is not for sissies.
Yeah Howard, how is that arm? Form your description, I suspect you did more damage than you want to admit. Now apparently Don has a sympathy injury. Geez, you guys don't seem any smarter than me sometimes. ;D I hope you both heal up quick.
As for the camo idea, no thanks, too late now. I am NOT going back over all this stuff to make it match. I have to get another gallon matched so that I can finish off what's left without any discernable difference. Plus I still have those 2 drilling benches to go with these table and the two extras I am making based on high hopes of a sale. If they don't sell I will just make them into saw horses that are lower than normal.
Tom, I hate painting too. I spray when I can, but the weather doesn't allow for that right now. I've taken to using a 6"roller for the big areas and then a brush where needed. It wastes some paint soaked into the roller, but saves time.
Yeah, I had one of those small rollers, but there is so few places on this job that it wouldn't eve fit that it just wasn't worth using it. I do use those little rollers quite a bit and they make it go fast, but on this job, not so much. Also this particular material was not as thick as normal paint, it is a stain/sealer and I knew the stuff would just fly all over off that roller. It's more like water than paint for some reason.
FFOTS,
I bet if you actually compared identical coverage you'd find that roller actually uses/wastes a lot less paint than the spraying. I bet the spraying is a lot more of a time and convenience factor than it is a cost of materials savings. You probably still come out ahead in the end by spraying especially by reaching some of those hard to reach spots and doing it much faster. ;)
Well I can say that the painting I did today in 9 hours would have taken me about 2 hours or less with the airless electric sprayer AND I would have gotten paint in those blind areas I can't get with a brush. Yeah, I would have used more product but considering my lack of love for the painting process, I would have gladly taken the hit. I ran out of paint anyway.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 08, 2022, 08:46:13 PM
FFOTS,
I bet if you actually compared identical coverage you'd find that roller actually uses/wastes a lot less paint than the spraying. I bet the spraying is a lot more of a time and convenience factor than it is a cost of materials savings. You probably still come out ahead in the end by spraying especially by reaching some of those hard to reach spots and doing it much faster. ;)
Yeah, a lot of my sprayed paint is in the wind, but it also makes for a much more professional looking finish in the end.
That's what I thought from the description. Cool it on impact activities till it calms down and let the bursa lose its swelling and chafing things. If it persists you probably damaged one of the rotator cuff tendons, I doubt for the first time. (from previous did something dumb days :D). You're probably Salem VA, if it goes private, right around the corner is my shoulder doc, VA Ortho, Waldrop, he's good.
It took some doing and I think a set of root rate seals to get the lady of the mud to let go of the dozer. From the looks of the mess I'm not sure whether to fill or dip it out and stock it :D.
I can't think of a job I dislike more than painting. Although steam cleaning a tractor covered in frozen pig poop is a close second.
I think I would rather clean your tractor. ;D :D
Your thought reminds me of when I was a kid working with my Dad on some particularly distasteful task (to me at that time) and I would complain about how miserable the work was. He would just keep working along and remark, "Well, it still beats the heck out of picking cotton." Apparently, that was his high water mark for 'less desirable' jobs. :) I'd say "I don't know what that's like' and he would say 'hopefully, you'll never find out', and we would just continue on working.
I never did find out...yet.
The bad thing is that I have actually picked cotton :).
Well, which is worse?
I was about 12 or 13 years old. I spent the money for what I picked to buy a half gallon of ice cream from the country store where the cotton was sold. Eating all that ice cream made me sick. My Momma found out and whipped me. Overall, it was a definitive learning experience :).
I note that you did not answer the question. :D
Not sure if it was getting sick or getting the whipping. Have to think about it :D.
No wonder you do not like picking cotton! It led to your vomiting and getting a wippin. :o
Johnny Cash - I Never Picked Cotton - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=never+picked+cotton&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dnever%2520picked%2520cotton%26form%3dSWAUA2&view=detail&mid=EA5BC58188138A6CC94EEA5BC58188138A6CC94E&&FORM=VDRVSR)
:D
Roy Clark was singing in my version :)
I listened to both, and I liked the do what you do do well, song also. :)
I agree this is not the version we listened to on the mono am radio laying in the back window going down the highway as a kid. that is where the speaker was.
Back in the days before positive child restraint :D, my perch on the long road trips "home" was a quilt on the rear window deck. The girls had a pallet made across suitcases in the floorboard and the rear seat. When I-95 opened up it cut 16 hours in half. When we arrived, well, there's another song, "Make me a pallet on your floor". It was about 4 quilts deep, 7 cousins long, and an equal covering on top across the living room floor in front of the glowing Warm Morning stove.
never picked cotton - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=never+picked+cotton&&view=detail&mid=FF1ECA16DA6ECE2217EFFF1ECA16DA6ECE2217EF&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnever%2520picked%2520cotton%26FORM%3DVDVVXX)
for Don! ;)
I've picked cotton for a day and I've primed tobacco (hand picking the ripe leaves off the plant) many many days. Priming tobacco has the same bent over posture as cotton picking. If you haven't worked in tobacco, there is tobacco gum on the plants that is nearly equivalent to pine pitch in consistency. Tobacco gum cakes your hands and arms and it combines with the red clay dirt that splashes on the leaves when it rains.
That tobacco gum has a high percentage of nicotine in it. Getting "tobacco sick" from the nicotine is worse than getting seasick. The chances of overdosing on the nicotine in the tobacco gum is increased when there is dew on the leaves. If you aren't a tobacco user it is worse. Add in the heat and that the nicotine absorbs through the skin and it is a "just go ahead and shoot me" kind of feeling.
steve_smiley steve_smiley
I'd rather paint..... :D
Quote from: Don P on March 09, 2022, 09:05:39 AM
Back in the days before positive child restraint :D, my perch on the long road trips "home" was a quilt on the rear window deck. The girls had a pallet made across suitcases in the floorboard and the rear seat. When I-95 opened up it cut 16 hours in half. When we arrived, well, there's another song, "Make me a pallet on your floor". It was about 4 quilts deep, 7 cousins long, and an equal covering on top across the living room floor in front of the glowing Warm Morning stove.
My parents had a backseat playpen for my sister so she rode there. My brother and I were stacked like cordwood in the back of the Chevrolet station wagon among the cooler and suitcases etc.
I rode laying on that back seat window shelf many times in the days before OSHA and Political Correctness.
In the summer 1976, I worked in Eastern NC as a Forestry Intern for Weyerhaeuser in the New Bern area.
One of the guys that I worked with would come to work every Monday morning with yellow stained hands from working tobacco.
By all rights none of us should be alive today what with riding in the rear window, in the back of pick up trucks and some of us have even been known to lick the cake mix bowl in which raw eggs were in the batter! Child restraints? That was a good tongue lashing (or worse).
Or just jump on the running board in the 40's to ride around the farm and to go to town. Hang on to the door with an open window.
Sit astride the headlights on the front fenders and carrying .22 or shotgun to knock down a critter or two at night.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 09, 2022, 05:48:41 PM
some of us have even been known to lick the cake mix bowl in which raw eggs were in the batter!
I still do that to this day.
Raw molasses cookie dough is the best!!!! Forgot, rolled in sugar!!!!
Well chocolate chip raw dough is right up there too.
We always got to lick the beaters when mama was makin' cookies for us kids.
It was even better if the mixer was shut off first. smiley_thumbsup
Quality control in cookie dough making is really important. :)
I think I'd about rather power wash in a hog barn than paint. Back in the day it paid some tuition and room and board..No cotton up here.
I've been painting the new windows for the job in the shop on weather days, forever. Finally got the sashes through the first 2 coats yesterday and started on the frames. I turned the meter off a long time ago, I'm no painter :D.
Now you've made me think of getting the ice cream dasher :)
I like to run a roller with an extendable handle. My neighbor likes to cut in and is a retired schoolteacher, now prof. painter. we trade favors. I also love airless sprayers, to use but not to clean. I operate a mean aerosol can as well. cannot beat the finish. once you have a flat surface. on an oak bench, might as well brush it a few coats to fill the grain heavier than the other parts. after filled, then light sand and a coat of aerosol.
We used to ride everywhere in my grandpa's 1970something truck with a camper shell on it. In my mom's big station wagon I used to just lay under blankets in the back on the way home from the bowling alley, but there was a steel floor to keep me safe.
Simultaneously with hitting the brakes, Mom's right arm would fly out to the side. Early child restraint system. I remember it was a while before the folks bought other than a two door sedan or station wagon, no children by the doors.
Oh, yeah, mom used to do that to me too. Here, my little arm is gonna keep you from going thru the windshield. Yesterday, I let my 11 year old ride in the front seat of the subaru for the first time. We adjusted the seat belt shoulder height so that it was not on his neck. His weight was enough to turn on the airbag, as their is a little light on the dash that indicates if it is on.
Wife comes from a family of thirteen kids. She relates that on an early car ride-this would have been 1960s-she fell out of the car on a corner and the old man was about a block away before noticing.
I think it was in an old '59 F-100 Ford pickup (Yes we owned a Ford one time) and my younger brother was riding with dad one night down a local country/dirt road and he rounded the bend and some farmer's mule had gottten out and was in the road. Dad did not see the dark animal till he was right on it and swerved to miss it and it threw my brother who would have been 4-5 y/o then up against the door and he hit the door latch and sprung it and fell out the door but one of his overall galluses hung on the window knob and he was swinging out there over the right of way as they were driving. Dad was able to reach over and grabbed his leg or such and pulled him back in but was pretty shook up over it. I don't think my brother thought much about the adventure.
When you're riding a horse and get throwed and your foot gets hung in the stirrup you can roll over onto your belly and generally it will pull free. Never mind you can get your face and a few other things full of cactus while face down tho.
My sister was another that fell out of the car as my mom rounded a bend, back in the day. Hahaha!
I have fond memories growing up without having to be in a car seat.
The first car I can remember was my Dads, early 60's Buick Wildcat. It had bucket seats and a center flip up storage console. I would often sit in the middle on the console with my Dad always yelling at me to be careful not to hit the shift lever with my feet.
The second was being able to sleep on my moms lap when coming home Sunday night. After a full day of playing with all of my cousins on my Grandparents farm, I was worn out. Too bad kids cant experience that anymore.
I remember many of those but also with 3 boys in the back seat he could always fling an arm back and smack the one causing trouble without ever missing! :D
It was never me because I was a saint. smiley_angel02_wings
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 11, 2022, 10:28:07 AM
I think it was in an old '59 F-100 Ford pickup (Yes we owned a Ford one time) and my younger brother was riding with dad one night down a local country/dirt road and he rounded the bend and some farmer's mule had gottten out and was in the road. Dad did not see the dark animal till he was right on it and swerved to miss it and it threw my brother who would have been 4-5 y/o then up against the door and he hit the door latch and sprung it and fell out the door but one of his overall galluses hung on the window knob and he was swinging out there over the right of way as they were driving. Dad was able to reach over and grabbed his leg or such and pulled him back in but was pretty shook up over it. I don't think my brother thought much about the adventure.
AH HA! I KNEW there was something different about your 'take' on things! Only owned a Ford once and apparently not proud of it? Now it's all out there and I understand a lot better. You are form the 'other side' and that's OK, I respect that. To each his/her own. I am open minded, but it explains a LOT now.
What the heck is a 'gallus'? Never heard of that term before.
I remember many trips home late at night spread out on the floor in the back seat or the back of the station wagon between whatever cargo we also has. There was no safer feeling in the world and the only time I slept better was in a birth on the family boat.
Me and the sibs liked to ride in the back with an ear pressed against the drivetrain hump cars used to have. We're mostly going deaf now.....🦻
Tom,
That F-100 was the only new vehicle my dad ever bought and the right fender rusted off in under 6 months in Fla where they never even heard of salt on a road. They welded a new one on but it fell off a few months later. (Actually I also bought a '74 Ford P/U when I got back from Okinawa in March '79 and my wife bought a new one here in about 1990 - Yes, we were slow learners.)
A gallus is a name for the strap on a pair of overalls.
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Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 11, 2022, 07:07:10 PMThat F-100 was the only new vehicle my dad ever bought and the right fender rusted off in under 6 months in Fla where they never even heard of salt on a road.
I had one of those early 70's F100, a green one, 360 engine. I think on a good day it might get 7-8 mpg. Had a heavy load in the bed one time, went around a slow curve and the right rear axle bearing slid out just enough so the axle was not engaged in the differential. One of the few times I had to have a tow.
My 72 F100 wouldn't make the 180 mile trip from Edmonton to Calgary on one tank of fuel, it was my last Frod.
I had a new 1998 F150, it felt like my shoes were on the wrong feet when I drove it.
I have owned two Lincoln MKZ sedans. These have been excellent cars but they have been my wife's everyday drivers. I don't often drive the one she has now but I really do feel comfortable in it.
When I was probably preschool Dad had a stake body one ton work truck. Something went out in the rear end and he called home for my Mom to come tow him. She loaded us up in the winged Pontiac, we went and hooked a chain to the truck and she started back. At some point as we went around a corner the rear axle came out of the truck and it sat down. I just remember that for me and my sister it was as good as it gets for a second or two as we swung around and ended up about doorhandle to doorhandle but facing different directions. Mom apparently didn't enjoy the ride as much as us kids :D.
Barney is going to have a funny rumble next time my wife gets a phone call. Apparently he got both hearing aids off the coffee table, we found part of one. Whatcha gonna do ::).
Quote from: sawguy21 on March 11, 2022, 07:44:43 PM
My 72 F100 wouldn't make the 180 mile trip from Edmonton to Calgary on one tank of fuel, it was my last Frod.
Mine passed very few gas stations without a sip. It had a small tank , behind the seat if I remember. I've owned 3 Ford's, didn't take a liking to any of them. I figure the newer ones are much better nowadays.
Don P, those Ford's had the rear wheel bearings pressed on the axles and the axles could slide out like mine did. Guess your Dad's came out farther than mine :).
I spent many years as an ASE certified auto tech. The worst of all car builders was Ford. I made more money off of LTDs, F150s and Ranger pickups than anything else. I still call my biggest hammer my Ford hammer.
I have owned many F-100, F-150's, and F350's over the years. My first being a 1965 F-100 2wd short wheelbase. Wish I had it now. I have found that if you treat them well, they will treat you well. Always been my pickup of choice. ;)
Like others I remember riding in vehicles untethered. Back of station wagons was great. Made a few trips from the back seat to the floorboard during hard braking. Probably the most dangerous was riding in the bed of the pickup standing up and holding onto the rain gutter around the back of the cab. I also remember being told to stop squirming around in the cab of the pickup truck, of course I did not listen. Once, coming back from the farm, I hit the door handle and I started out the door. I grabbed the sides of the door frame. My brother grabbed my shirt and pulled me back in. As my face came across the cab during re-entry my father slapped me. I never remember squirming around in the truck again.
Quote from: Don P on March 11, 2022, 09:55:04 PM
Barney is going to have a funny rumble next time my wife gets a phone call. Apparently he got both hearing aids off the coffee table, we found part of one. Whatcha gonna do ::).
I will guess like most things, it will pass.... ;)
My mutt got hold of one of mine a few weeks ago, fortunately she only chewed the ear bud. She disappeared under the bed as soon as I found it, we had this discussion once before. ;D
Not sure if it counts as "dumb", but I had a bathroom door fail today. Go to leave, and the handle moves, but the bolt doesn't ??? >:(
So I'm stuck in the bathroom....
Luckily Lil and the kids are home, but they can't open the door from the outside either. Try the knife trick to move the bolt, passed through the Window. No, spring is too strong. All my tools are on the other side of the door. ::)
Talked Lil and the kids through removing the door handle and mechanism from their side, Still no good, because the spring actuated bolt has broken off the rest of the mechanism. Ended up with using a battery drill to basically "cut" the latch out of the door. Was the power tool I could remember where I put it, and a drill bit.
Anyway I was finally freed, but we now need a new bathroom door, or some serious patching, and a new latch. ::)
could you not knock the pins from the hinges??
Quote from: doc henderson on March 14, 2022, 03:34:36 AM
could you not know the pins from the hinges??
Not without taking the trim off the door frame, and even then it was going to be tricky to get the lower hinge out. Trim has been added as an afterthought, and blocks the hinge pins. Also needed tools from the mess in my shed, on the other side of the door.
I'll probably have to take the trim off to fix or replace the door, but at least I can round up all the tools to do it. (or make new trim when the old one falls apart)
LIl want's a new bathroom anyway, so adding a new door to the budget won't be the end of the world.
It is good that she didn't have to call the fire department. :D
Yesterday afternoon, I was trimming the freeze damaged branches off of my mother's hibiscus bushes next door while evidently standing in a fire ant bed. After trimming them for several minutes, I went into our shop to use the bathroom. All of a sudden, many fire ants unleashed their wrath and began stinging me at the same time. They were inside boots, jeans and nether regions. I shucked my clothes and began running towards my house, which is next door. I was carrying my clothes and boots while running down the driveway and across the yard sans clothes, except my skivvies, hat and a shirt.
JMoore, coincidentally, started driving up the driveway at about the same time as I was frantically streaking across the yard. After a few intense minutes, I was able to smush all of the ants that were crawling on me that were intent on inflicting misery. After changing into some clothes that were not crawling with fire ants, I had a little explaining to do. My wife saw me through the window and met me at the garage door. Of course, she was giving me instructions to leave my clothes in the garage as I was heading inside.
"Don't look Ethel!"
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Quote from: Ianab on March 14, 2022, 02:54:18 AMSo I'm stuck in the bathroom....
Quote from: Ianab on March 14, 2022, 02:54:18 AMSo I'm stuck in the bathroom....
At least if you had to go, you could!! smiley_jester
Ian,
Reminds me of the summer I took the kids to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia with me. We landed in London about 7:00 am and did not leave till 7:00 pm so we left our bags in the Left Luggage room and took the underground to Green Park and visited the area, had lunch at HRC, and returned. We took a shower there at Heathrow and my daughter who was 14 at the time got locked in when the door lock failed and we had to get maintenance to come get her out. I was afraid I was going to have to leave her in there so as not to miss my flight a one point. :D
Cavey,
About a week after we were married my MIL was mowing the yard in at their home there near Cullman Ala and ran over a nest of yellowjackets and they got up her loose jeans legs and such and she shed them out there in the yard and ran back to the house. The old mowers back then did not have a safety shut off when you released the handle so it ran over the hole and kept the YJs stirred up till it ran out of gas. I think she was able to go back after dark and get her pants and the mower. She was a big lady and it must have been a sight to see her running back to the house. Fortunately they did not have any close neighbors or a lot of traffic on their road.
Our first exchange student was a tall, stereotypical blonde, blue-eyed Swede named Monica. Her mom, Britt, and her younger sister came out for her graduation and stayed with us several weeks. School was not out yet and the kids were all in class, my wife was teaching and I was in the USMC at Camp LeJeune and we had a sunny day in early May so Britt decided to "Take some sun" and got a blanket, laid out in the back yard and loosened the top and fell asleep. All was good till Trip, our 9 month old German Shepherd saw the tempting bathing suit top and decided a good game of tug of war would be lots of fun. Evidently there was a lot of give and take for a couple of minutes to determine ownership there in the back yard. Britt told us about it a few days later. She was also a big lady and I don't know if any of my neighbors on either side of us saw any of the hoopla.
Caveman, your story reminds me of the time my wife was standing in the greenhouse door and asked me if she had a tick on her back. Sure enough it was a seed tick in the small of her back.
So I am on my knees behind her, she hiked up the back of her summer dress high enough for me to get the buggar, my head is right close to her so I can see, and an employee rounds the corner right then.
The look of sheer horror on the employees face was priceless. ;D
Ian, clearly Lil wanted a new door with the new bathroom and sabotaged the door so you would destroy it.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 14, 2022, 06:36:55 PM
Ian, clearly Lil wanted a new door with the new bathroom and sabotaged the door so you would destroy it.
Clearly it was in the master plan and I am one step closer :D
LIL
Lol. Who knew @LIL (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1622) was a member? Did you get him started on that bathroom yet? Other than the door.
We don't hear a lot from her but she keeps a close eye on him. ;D
Well, I"m ready to go winch some logs onto the trailer tomorrow. Hopefully you all remember the significance of this picture.
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There, much cheaper to enclose it than buy a new one.
Safer too. ;D
No doubt!
That picture belongs on the "Did something smart today" thread. :D
Quote from: rusticretreater on March 16, 2022, 07:25:59 PM
That picture belongs on the "Did something smart today" thread. :D
Funny, we don't have one of those. I wonder why....OH, Nevermind. :D :D :D :D :D
That's called learning from the school of hard knocks.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 16, 2022, 03:08:10 PM
Well, I"m ready to go winch some logs onto the trailer tomorrow. Hopefully you all remember the significance of this picture.
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Better!
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Oh, thats a bad memory. Lol. I'm not sure I do something smart often enough to create a thread about it.
+1 to that! Sometimes I do and say such smart stuff, then I try to get out of my truck with my seatbelt on! ::) :D
After sawing seventy 2x6s, I was sawing 2x12s and flipped the 11.25 inch wide cant on it's side and proceeded to cut at 5.12 inches on the cutomer's log. Oh snap.
hugs, Brandi
:D It definitely was time to stop for coffee.
Whoops. You can always use a nother 2x6.
After forgetting to raise my log stops and rolling a pretty big poplar off my mill a week or two ago I've been pretty careful.Today I had two sides cut on another big poplar and was trying to roll it again to get the third side up.It was all I could do to get it stood up.Before I could get it clamped it rolled back over,slid completely off mill onto my walkway.About 2 hours later I got it back up on mill with come along and pigpole.Decided it was time to go in.Another lesson learned the hard way :laugh:
My turn today :(
Took the tractor and trailer up into the woods to cut some rocket fuel aka syrup wood. I collect standing dry dead ash poles about 1-3" diameter and 20' long and stack them into a cross brace, then whip through them all at once with the saw, cutting them into 12-16" lengths. I can easily gather 3/4 face cord in an hour or less. Enough for 150 gallons or so of sap.
Had my trailer loaded up and was heading back, when a long dead branch hooked on the bucket guard and came along for the ride. I tried steering left and right and more left and more right, trying to shake the darn thing loose to no avail. Still dragging it.
I'm gonna get you sucker! I lifted the bucket up high to let gravity help. Nope. Lowered it again. I figured if I could get it under a wheel, I'd pull it off so more wiggling back and forth. No such luck. Still dragging.
Finally dumped the bucket and off it came. And out dropped my 562xp as well, right under the front wheel. Fortunately I saw the flash of orange and hit the brakes hard. Front wheel pushed the saw along the mud about 2' instead of going over it. Other than a lot of embedded mud and my severely wounded pride, no real damage done.
Note to others. Don't let a dumb stick get the better of you!
You need to build this on your tractor.
How to mount chain saw to tractor - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCPEJ6HEgiU)
Don't be put off by the 9 minute video. For some reason it repeats itself.
I try not to put anything in my bucket I don't want to run over. ;D
I think the last time I did it was a shovel, that I run over. :(
@Wlmedley (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=58995) that is heartbreaking to have the log roll off the back. Especially as hard as it is sometimes to get the log up there in the first place. Luckily I have only had one do that to me and I was able to maneuver my tractor back there to pick it back up. There are times though when I wouldn't be able to get the tractor back there due to having logs or waste piles in the way.
@Big_eddy (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53722) sometimes being intent on a single task, like getting that limb loose, distracts us from the bigger picture, like a picture of a nice chainsaw nestled down in a bucket. I did that with a chain once, but of course the chain wasn't gonna get hurt. Probably the only reason I haven't run over my chainsaw is that I never have the bucket on the tractor anymore. I use the forks 99% of the time.
I had that 44" butt log on the sawmill this morning and crawled onto the sawmill to remove some dirty bark. Yup, missed the bed rail when I stepped and....
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_2033~1.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1648596524)
I took a swan dive, well actually a head first dive down through the sawmill which did not dent anything on the sawmill. I had to make an unscheduled visit to the Quick Care for two staples and then a visit to the hospital for a $1200 CT scan to check for a concussion. It came back negative. I ate lunch and finished the day sawing.
I know of two different people that recently had minor falls and then went into a full seizure, so I did what I was supposed to do.
Lynn,
Sorry to hear about the tumble. Glad it was nothing more serious. It is amazing how quick we can get hurt over a simple thing.
I should comment about brain scans in parts of Ga coming back negative but I see you further qualified yours as negative for a concussion. ;)
Or he may have said "negative for a brain". ::)
Good thing that you didn't hurt your mill, otherwise you may have had to quit sawing for 1 day. :(
Glad its all ok, you are one tough guy for being retired..
JJ
Oh Lynn, the things you'll do for attention. Ouch.
A man came today to look at cedar lumber, but couldn't take any home with him today, because he was driving a small car. He insisted though on paying me $40 for 4 boards that he will pick up next week. I tried to tell him I would hold the boards for him without the money, but he wouldn't hear of it. I'm glad he did.
This afternoon I was going to go the post office to mail some packages, pick up fish dinner and then pick up my son from track practice. I'm standing at the PO and realized that I forgot my wallet. I called my wife and asked her to meet me in town with my wallet. I then remembered that I had $40 in my pocket. Shipping for my packages was $41.25, so I went out to the truck to get 5 quarters so I could pay for shipping. Of course then I met Cindy with my wallet so I could have some money to pay for dinner. I did not have $23 in quarters. Dinner was good and Liam had good track practice.
Lynn, you gotta stop doing dumb stuff like that. Geez man! Send the kid in there to clean that stuff out (you know, that 50 year old over there). I don't know how many more of these photos we can stand. :D Geez. I am really glad you just got out of it with another hole in your head and nothing worse. I will forgo any comments about them not finding anything on your CT.
Bill, I nearly did the same thing tonight. I took my wife out to dinner for her 71st birthday and never thought about money until halfway through the meal. Then I remembered I had a couple of 50's in my pocket I keep there for business incidentals. I carry it in my pockets for months and never need it most times, but when you do, you do. Saved my butt tonight. Happy wife, Happy life.
You know that's how the credit card was invented. Guy took his wife to dinner and forget his cash at home, was a pretty ritzy place too. Diners Card was born from that incident.
I gotta say it: the bite was worse than the bark. ::)
My customer drove me to the Quick Care. When I got out of his truck I remembered that my billfold was on the driver's seat of my truck. No insurance card, CC, money, nothing. Not to worry, they had me in their system.
Now see, there are benefits to being a repeat customer. ::)
Quote from: rusticretreater on March 25, 2022, 08:49:54 PM
I gotta say it: the bite was worse than the bark. ::)
Probably so because it happened too quick for me to bark and the log said nothing. :-X
Lynn,
When you said you were gonna slow down production, I didn't realize you meant by any means necessary. Hope you get feeling better quickly.
Last year, I tried to shave the corner of expanded metal off of my tractor's grill guard, with my forehead, while ducking under the loader arms. It took 7 staples to mend that canyon. Funny thing, I don't remember it hurting, but it sure did when I tried to get the dried blood out of my hair.
Sorry, no photos. So I guess someone here will say it didn't happen. ::)
hugs, Brandi
Hope you get to feeling better Magicman
I knew that I whacked my head but I put my cap back on and continued working. I did not realize that I was bleeding until my hat band caught all that it could hold and then I noticed blood on my arm and gloves. When I took my cap off I had a mess all at once. My customer saw it and called to the tailgunner. They took a look and quickly decided that I needed medical attention.
I have to put some pressure on it this morning to feel any pain and it really isn't actual pain. I am off to sawing this morning.
Lynn, sir, you are one tough character! I do admire your stamina and passion for this business! Hope you continue feeling well!
Kinda reminds me of an episode of "Tool Time". Tim made many a trip to the ER as I recall. Could there be a future "Saw Time" series in the works? You are already a genuine celebrity here.
Seriously though, I am glad you are doing ok. Thanks for your inspiration. GF
Yikes! We're gonna have to get you a helmet for doing battle with big logs! soldier-smiley
@Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) apparently you didn't watch Yellowhammer's recent video on unloading logs from a trailer with a loader. In it he advises against walking under the loader arms. I do it all the time and I have hit my head, but have not let out any blood.
Lynn,
From now on, leave the swan diving to the swans.
Howard,
Just because I inferred that maybe your ancestors had small brain cases, it was nothing personal. In the meantime don't fret. It is not your fault. At least you are a kind and generous man to be giving Old Greenhorn so much help, and he never even had to ask you for it.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 26, 2022, 08:22:46 AM
@Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) apparently you didn't watch Yellowhammer's recent video on unloading logs from a trailer with a loader. In it he advises against walking under the loader arms. I do it all the time and I have hit my head, but have not let out any blood.
This happened over a year ago.
hugs, Brandi
Danny,
Thanks for the kind words (?).
Is it really true your family had their last family reunion at the zoo to save on transportation, meals and lodging expenses?
Hmmm. Can't remember when my last family reunion was? You may be right. Let me check and get back with you.
Danny,
My mom won't let me go to any more family reunions on her side of the family because the last time I did I made up a booklet with all the wanted pictures I could collect from the post office (Back when they still had them on display). Every time a new family member came in I'd walk over and flip through the pages as I looked at them real closely. I figured in the worst case I would add a little levity to the event and, under the best case, I might make some money! Mom did not appreciate the idea.
Ha! So funny! You should have told her that the truth hurts :D.
You are twisted, I like you! :D
I worked a full 9 hours today without any runs, drips, nor errors. 8)
That you remember. Dat knock to da noggin might have clouded your memory. ;D
Anybody left on base? ;D
Yikes MM! Glad you are doing ok!
Well, it feels like just days ago... I took the backhoe to the neighbors so he could help weld some forklift brackets to the loader bucket. I was over there for a while and it was windy and cold and when we were done I was ready to get home for a beer and to warm up a bit. I drive the backhoe down the driveway, intently watching the loader bucket to make sure nothing bad was going on and that everything looked stable (it did). I pulled into the barn, looked back to make sure that the hoe side was clear, after dropping the forks, and that's when I remembered that I'd made an overpass of my internet cable like from the shed to the house side of the driveway. Well, there's nothing hanging off the backhoe, I guess it slipped over. I get out start closing the barn door and look up the yard to see that nope, the line didn't slip up and over, it broke, again. I'm an idiot. This is at least the third time I've broken this line.
The overpass I made by taking a 16' long 2x4, drilling a hole in it, which I ran the cable up through, then stood that up, leaning it against the shed and zip tying it in place. Then the line went over the driveway to another 2x4 where I did the same thing but had it zip tied to a tree. If everything was tight the line was just high enough I could clear it with the backhoe boom. Everything wasn't tight, and I knew it, so I just got used to lowering the boom as I went under. On my way back home I didn't. There was many feet of slack and somehow, getting pulled by the boom, I managed to grab hold of the line hard enough to completely crack the 2x4 in half, like shredded it. I think I lost about 4 feet of line in the process, then my neighbor came over and helped me splice the line.
As I stood there and loudly cussed over and over I thought of running the line through about 15' of black iron pipe, which the backhoe would just drive right over until it was buried.
:o :o :o Now we can use a metal detector to find you when you get lost.
I needed to take the bucket off of the tractor at school and put on the grapple to move a couple of logs that were blocking my path to a grill that the ROTC instructor wants to use. I asked a few of my ag mech girls to lock the pins into the grapple with the quick connect handles. I did not check to ensure that I had properly seated the grapple on the mount and proceeded to hook up the hydraulics. As I rolled the grapple forward to grab the logs it fell off, only attached to the tractor by the hydraulic hoses. Thankfully the hoses did not get put under any strain and none of the class members noticed me hooking it back up. I'll blame this on a long spring break week of volunteering at a livestock show we put together (Central Florida Youth In Agriculture) and a Monday that should have been devoted to recovery rather than impersonating a teacher.
Oh yeah! Though I know better I've already got my first dose of poison ivy or poison something this year.
I've got a neighbor who is cutting down some big birch trees and I asked what he was doing with them and if I could have some logs. He said yes so I made my way down there with the backhoe and some chains. I saw ivy that had grown on them but wasn't smart enough to pay attention to it. A day or two later I thought I'd gotten some bug bites or something on my arm... Nope, barely even Spring (I think it was still officially winter at that point) and I've already got it. Watch out for that junk!
Quote from: caveman on March 28, 2022, 08:32:23 PM
I needed to take the bucket off of the tractor at school and put on the grapple to move a couple of logs that were blocking my path to a grill that the ROTC instructor wants to use. I asked a few of my ag mech girls to lock the pins into the grapple with the quick connect handles. I did not check to ensure that I had properly seated the grapple on the mount and proceeded to hook up the hydraulics. As I rolled the grapple forward to grab the logs it fell off, only attached to the tractor by the hydraulic hoses. Thankfully the hoses did not get put under any strain and none of the class members noticed me hooking it back up. I'll blame this on a long spring break week of volunteering at a livestock show we put together (Central Florida Youth In Agriculture) and a Monday that should have been devoted to recovery rather than impersonating a teacher.
Oh the dumb things that happen as a school teacher, especially for a Career and Technical Education teacher! That was a minor item but I've seen some real crazy things looking back on 30 plus years in CTE!
Just wasted time but I got an order for another composting toilet and between rain showers I built the front wall section then realized I'd miscut 2- uprights on one side 2 inches shorter than the other, proper length. No wasted lumber as I can take it apart and use on the back or sides but is annoying. I just quit when I found what I'd done and went and burned a big brush pile. The rain made it perfect for that. I'll start back over tomorrow.
No one has been interested in buying this little tablesaw I got with the great deal the other day. It had a really nice and new 1 1/2 horse motor and my jointer only had 1 horse. You can see where I"m going with this. I removed it from the saw and noticed it was not wired per the diagram and thought, boy this guy is lucky he didn't burn it down. Well, I got it all installed in my jointer after cobbling together a pulley puller to swap the pulleys. That involved a piece of wood, three bolts and some baling wire. It worked well. Turned on the jointer and ran a piece of wood thru and it didn't cut. Guess what, jointer running backwards. Turns out the other guy had it wired correctly for CCW rotation which is what was needed in the table saw and the jointer. Luckiliy I could lay on the floor and re-wire the motor without having to remove it. Now I have a more powerful jointer and I know a little something about wiring motors.
Very good use of the saw motor.
Just don't let the smoke out!
Glad your okay Lynn, falls and head injuries can get serious in short order.
Thanks, the staples come out Monday. :)
Quote from: Gere Flewelling on March 26, 2022, 07:58:17 AM
Kinda reminds me of an episode of "Tool Time". Tim made many a trip to the ER as I recall. Could there be a future "Saw Time" series in the works?
Lots of funny scenes of him in the ER. My favorite is:
Tim: Its great being here and not being a patient" as a door slams on his head.
Nurse: "Hold that thought for another day"
I didn't want to leave the log in the saw when the drive cable separated. So I reversed it and made a big mess. Skip to 5:05. For the mess!
https://youtu.be/LZ73VHwba5k (https://youtu.be/LZ73VHwba5k)
The previous owner had a splice in the cable. I've since replaced the entire cable. :)
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a mess, but also looks like a great mill.
I hate it when that happens!
I also noticed that hydraulic hose really vibrating around. You might want to secure that somehow otherwise I see an oil bath in your future.
Never good when the operator goes a runnin'!
Your push/pull stick looks a bit oversized. Maybe add a smaller one with a hooked end to grab the small flitches and pull them to you.
Wow, that turned out better than I thought it would, I was thinking that the unraveled cable was going to snag on the sawblade!
Now that would have been a mess, to fix and also to pay for!
At least the way it turned out, it can be taken care of and put you back in operation soon!
Glad no animals were harmed in making the video!
Ouch!
That reminded me to upload a pic for your other thread
Well it's my turn to go to confession. I went with a friend to the airport in her car, a fairly new Hyundai. Stopped at Wally world on the way home and the car stalled in the parking lot, wouldn't restart. I'm pushing buttons and twirling knobs but no nada. Then I noticed a dash display, Press Brake To Start. Well sunuvagun if that didn't work. ::)
A woman behind me was leaning on her horn, I went to her window and explained what was going on. "Oh ok, I'll pull out frontwards" and drove away. I just shook my head and muttered.
I almost always put moisturizing eye drops in my eyes in the morning to "wake" them up. My bottle had gotten low so this morning I got a couple of bottles. I opened one, leaned my head back, and gave the left eye a squirt. :o :o Pain....PAIN !!!
I had mistakenly gotten enhanced contact lens cleaner !!! :o Thankfully the lavatory faucet was there so that I could immediately start rinsing. I carried the cleaner back, explained what had happened, and it was cheerfully exchanged for the eye drops. Even the opened bottle which they threw in the trash.
Read the label. :P
Is this a Here's Your Sign suggestion?
Let me make sure I understand this correctly - You can't see so you need to put your eye drops in but before you put your eye drops in you need to read the fine print on the tiny little bottle of eye drops. Did I get that right? :D
I'm just glad it was nothing more serious and hopefully no long term effect.
Well it wasn't really my fault. But after we left DonP's job site we traveled over to Independence VA. He wanted me to see the timber frame that the Timber Framers Guild built for that city.
We parked across the street from the "farmer's market site".
I got out and wanted to take a long shot with my phone's camera:
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Just as I snapped the photo, the VA DOT truck happened along, this busy street.
But I did get that shot:
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And here it is from the sidewalk:
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After the roof gets finished, it will be a nice farmer's market place.
Jim Rogers
The digital photo of the truck isn't nearly as dumb as it would have been with a 35mm film camera. You might not have know until the photos came back from the dark room! :D
That's a very nice timber frame farmers' market. It isn't too far from here, I need to ride up to see it.
QuoteThe digital photo of the truck isn't nearly as dumb as it would have been with a 35mm film camera. You might not have know until the photos came back from the dark room!
Oh back in the day... if the film wound on the opposite spool, or didn't have the back come open and get exposed to the light... :-X
That's not bad Jim, back when digital photography was just starting my wife and I were out for a ride and went by a friends second hand store. I had recently sold the store a bunch of stuff including a dozen brightly coloured chairs from our family's motel that we had closed and changed into apartments, he had the chairs all lined up in front of the store so I took a picture to show my dad then made our way to a place called Brier Island and stopped at a wharf to take a few more pictures when I noticed that there was no film in the camera and by the time we went back by it was dark......never did get a picture.
I traveled to California with a fuel truck to chase a helicopter fighting fires. I sent three rolls of film to get processed, not one picture turned out >:( The shutter was pooched. I was really upset, it was a fairly pricey slr.
That's a bummer!!
My dad's aunt and uncle visited from Mass years ago. He was blind but insisted they get a camera for the trip and she took pictures of all the places and relatives the visited, when she got the pictures back they were all out of focus pictures of her eye.
The top of the leveling legs are flush with the bunks right now. I lost one of the plastic covers so the leg next to the lift arms is just the rim end of the steel tube. Yesterday I was milling 4 inch slabs from a big white oak and sliding them onto he lift arms to bring back up and stand on side to mill 4 x 4 fence posts. I was sliding the widest, heaviest slab off the pile onto the bunks and dropped it right on my fingers on the top end of the leveling leg. It really hurt and I was afraid to take off my glove and see how bad the damage was. Walked up to the house and got that look from Mariann...what did you do now? Took the glove off and was relieved it to be just a smash/cut across three fingers. Lucky I had a heavy pair of leather gloves on rathe than the lighter deer skin gloves I like to run the mill with. It has been a long time since Mariann went and got me a real cold beer to wrap my hand around. Oh yeah, I took the cover off the very back leg and put it on the one by the lift. Before running again I am going to put thinner blocks under the legs so they go down another hole.
Ouch! On my LT 35 I lost a couple of those plastic caps. It never occurred to me they were there for anything other than keeping sawdust and water out.
Hope the healing is quick and complete!
I'm glad the damage was not worse. I've done that more than one time with my toes. Take the shoe and sock off to see how bad the damage was. Luckily it is usually not as bad as imagined.
I went up late afternoon to fell a poplar tree to fill an order for a few 8' 2X4's and I need some for stock. I found one I liked with my fence nailed to it so I decided to cut it off about 4' high. I cut my wedge and plunge cut most of the way through but the tree was leaning different than I read it so it sat down on my saw. I went back and got the tractor, 200' cable, chain and a snatch block. I hooked the cable as high as I could reach then pulled it tight with the tractor but it did not free my saw so I used my wife's little 14" EZ start Sthil 180 and started cutting the holding wood and it finally fell. It still landed about 20-30 degrees right of where I had notched it but no real damage to any trees or equipment. I cut off one one fork and the top then a 17' upper log and went back and got my old ATV and pulled that down and brought my saws and such back. No real damage just a little wasted energy and time. I still have probably 50' of a pretty log up there I will buck and retrieve as needed.
I despise going to get a tractor implement only to find it in the same shape I parked it. The 3 pt rotary tiller didn't get any better after I parked it last year. The roll pin holding the pto yoke on the pto shaft is still missing. @$&/("$&%#! :o :D
I hate when I remember I needed to fix something when I go to use it :)
Are you guys referring to my back up Sthil 440 with the muffler off and all the replacement parts sitting on top of it which forced me to use the wife's little saw today to free mine? ::)
We would never suggest such a thing. :)
I'm thinking I should have elves that fix things when I'm sleeping but all I ever get is gremlins!
Quote from: Rhodemont on April 11, 2022, 12:41:07 PM
The top of the leveling legs are flush with the bunks right now. I lost one of the plastic covers so the leg next to the lift arms is just the rim end of the steel tube. Yesterday I was milling 4 inch slabs from a big white oak and sliding them onto he lift arms to bring back up and stand on side to mill 4 x 4 fence posts. I was sliding the widest, heaviest slab off the pile onto the bunks and dropped it right on my fingers on the top end of the leveling leg. It really hurt and I was afraid to take off my glove and see how bad the damage was. Walked up to the house and got that look from Mariann...what did you do now? Took the glove off and was relieved it to be just a smash/cut across three fingers. Lucky I had a heavy pair of leather gloves on rathe than the lighter deer skin gloves I like to run the mill with. It has been a long time since Mariann went and got me a real cold beer to wrap my hand around. Oh yeah, I took the cover off the very back leg and put it on the one by the lift. Before running again I am going to put thinner blocks under the legs so they go down another hole.
That's hurts, ask me how I know!
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Well that photo tightened my gut right up. You and Lynn should compare scars.
Lol, I think we did, back in 2017 when this happened. On the bright side, that incident led to me upgrading to the new lt40 🤓. Glad I didn't have to break any bones to get the wife to buy in on the lt70 getting ordered.
I've resembled those fingers lately... ::)
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pretty much healed up.
Gotta have a black fingernail every now and then, so people know ya work for a living 🤓
I don't know how many times I've told my kid to keep his fingers out from near a screw as he uses the small impact driver but it wasn't enough for me to not learn that lesson again myself. I also now have one of those black fingernails.
Super glue :)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 11, 2022, 08:21:01 PMit did not free my saw so I used my wife's little 14" EZ start Sthil 180 and started cutting the holding wood and it finally fell
Just a suggestion you may have already considered - I carry a box with my gas and bar oil, wedges, files, squench, etc. In that box I also carry a well used, but serviceable spare bar and chain. If I pinch my saw as you described, I remove the saw head leaving the stuck bar and chain in the cut and put the spare bar and chain on my saw head to finish the cut. This way the saw is not at risk and I don't need to get my spare saw. Worst case I damage the bar and chain that is stuck in the cut when the tree comes down.
I had the tool box but not the spare bar although I thought about doing that and just grabbing the bar and chain off my mufflerless saw back in the barn parked next to my wife's. There were only a few inches of holding wood left and her baby saw worked fine for that case.
It was not the first bar I've pinched and probably won't be the last if the truth be told. ::)
Well, guess I am in the finger club!
Been there - done that. Did you know that a porcupine puffer fish in the Red Sea eats coral and when you try to lip lock him like a bass you can lose a thumbnail to him too. Don't ask how I know. ::)
A red hot pin will melt through the nail and drain the blood under there and release the pressure and help stop the pain but you're still gonna lose the nail.
Had a situation a couple weeks ago that was wake up call. Needed one more tree for a lumber order, found a 20' tall "totem pole" (top broken clean off laying on the ground) white pine about 14" across in my woods. Easy right? Cut my notch low, was cutting the back cut, and got ambitious with a thin hinge to leave a cleaner butt log. Well, instead of going west, the hinge snapped, (brittle pine) it went north, right where I was holding the saw cutting. I dived out off the way and it missed me barely, but here's the dumb part. I hesitated by pulling the saw back trying to get it out and not get smashed, when I should have been making sure I got out and didn't get smashed. Safety pep talk, saws are easier to replace than sawyers, be safe.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 12, 2022, 10:23:08 AM
A red hot pin will melt through the nail and drain the blood under there and release the pressure and help stop the pain but you're still gonna lose the nail.
A red hot paperclip works better for me, a larger hole and doesn't penetrate as far when pushed through the nail. Don't ask me how I know.
Quote from: Resonator on April 12, 2022, 11:56:25 AM
Had a situation a couple weeks ago that was wake up call. Needed one more tree for a lumber order, found a 20' tall "totem pole" (top broken clean off laying on the ground) white pine about 14" across in my woods. Easy right? Cut my notch low, was cutting the back cut, and got ambitious with a thin hinge to leave a cleaner butt log. Well, instead of going west, the hinge snapped, (brittle pine) it went north, right where I was holding the saw cutting. I dived out off the way and it missed me barely, but here's the dumb part. I hesitated by pulling the saw back trying to get it out and not get smashed, when I should have been making sure I got out and didn't get smashed. Safety pep talk, saws are easier to replace than sawyers, be safe.
They say "an inch is as good as a mile".
Glad it missed you.
My dad worked fulltime for a longtime as a carpenter and he was always smashing his fingers. He would use a very small drill bit and just twist it back and forth with his other hand until he had drilled a hole thru the nail.
The drill bit is the way I have done it.
I've never tried poking a hole through a fingernail and every time I read of one of you guys mentioning it it makes me queasy. :-X
The hot paperclip/needle/pin is much quicker and more sterile than the drill bit.
I had a doctor use the hot paperclip method but I've also had to resort to drilling a hole with my pocket knife :o :o
your finger and toe nails are made from the same stuff as hair. so it does not hurt to cut or drill or melt it. the raw skin under is another story. so you can make the hole any way you like. the key is to not hit the skin underneath, so you go till blood come squirting out. so the key is to be sure there is a layer of blood lifting up the nail between the nail and the skin. you can push and see if it goes down a bit, and if not it will not make it feel better, and it may hurt worse. :o :o :o I use a battery operated cautery. have to be fast so the 16 y/o girls do not chicken out. :) the wire turns bright red hot, and tends to scare the faint of heart. :snowball:
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Although no blood was involved, sure felt stupid. I had my saw off of the bed for the winter so could I add my homemade setworks and do a few other mods. Figured it's time to get it back on the bed so put it on with my skid steer. Once it was on tried to put some pins in that secure the saw for travel, and they wouldn't fit anymore. What! How can this be? Did the bed tweak somehow over the winter? Dang near started modifying to fix the issue when I finally realized what was wrong. I had set the saw on facing the wrong way! Idiot! After taking back off and turning around, started greasing up for this season. Still a fair amount of snow in the woods here so it will be a few more weeks.
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I love those little skidsteer things.
Really a great tool. I use it all the time and can't imagine not having it. I've got lots of attachments to go with.
I keep thinking about starting a downed tree removal service and one of those is on my list to buy. Unfortunately, I really like Vermeer. Pretty sure you can get a stump grinder attachment for those as well.
Mine is one of a kind. Made it myself. I also made all of my attachments. Backhoe, grapple, snow blower, snow plow, brush cutter, forks and bucket.
thats funny, all the things I have thought about making that was never on my list. It is pretty simple though. I can see how that would be worth making instead of a $60k vermeer.
Quite a few years ago, I had the blood under the fingernail issue. I had heard the drill bit to release pressure solution but failed to grasp the finger twist aspect of the procedure. I discovered that a power drill, however carefully used, will quickly penetrate the fingernail and also the very tender skin under the fingernail. A lesson I will never forget.
Dale
Oh man. That's unfortunate.
Oh man, I had a visual of the drill bit going through the nail and threading right on into the finger.
Some days I just feel snakebit.
I decided to replace the muffler on my Sthil 440. It fell off weeks ago and I ordered the parts and today it was raining and seemed like a good time to get some shop works done. Then when I got everything ready to replace I found the screws Sthil provided are too big and would not fit the holes in the saw itself so I need to take the saw to my local hardware and see if we can find the right size.
Then decided to put a new boat seat on and found the screws from the old ones don't fit the new one and need 4- 1-3/4"X4X20 bolts so I'll get them at the same time.
Then went to put a new blade in my debarker and broke a 1/8" Allen wrench tip off in the set screw. I should have used the one in my 3/8" drill which I am sure is stronger.
Some days it just pays to stay in and play video games :)
Howard, sounds like Murphy reminded you of his presence all day!
Quote from: Crusarius on April 18, 2022, 05:13:24 PM
Some days it just pays to stay in and play video games :)
Well I get that Howard did not have a super productive day (actually sounds fairly typical for one of my days), but for myself I would rather do just about anything instead of playing video games. Not on my radar in any way at all... ever. :D Those things have not been allowed in our house since the kids were born and have yet to show up here.
Howard, what exactly is a 1-3/4"x4x20 bolt? I am not familiar with that terminology.
Well what I really need are 4 each, 1/4" dia, 20 thread hex head bolts 1-3/4" long.
The only thing that worked for me all day was a 3 lb baby sledge hammer. I was able to straighten out the hood on my mower (which is going to the shop tomorrow too) which I'd bent in lifting to work on the blades and spindles and such in the past.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 18, 2022, 07:43:46 PM
Well what I really need are 4 each, 1/4" dia, 20 thread hex head bolts 1-3/4" long.
The only thing that worked for me all day was a 3 lb baby sledge hammer. I was able to straighten out the hood on my mower (which is going to the shop tomorrow too) which I'd bent in lifting to work on the blades and spindles and such in the past.
AH, so it was just a translation issue between WV speak and what us northerners use. I get it now. I could probably did some up in 2" long to send you, but I suspect your local supplier will be quicker.
Those lump hammers usually don't fail. They are pretty bullet proof. I keep about 3 of them handy around the shop areas. Good wedge drivers too.
Tom, thats because you are old :)
I mean this in the nicest possible way :)
Actually, I figured someone would say something. I know I am one of the younger members here, so I expected it :)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 18, 2022, 07:43:46 PMWell what I really need are 4 each, 1/4" dia, 20 thread hex head bolts 1-3/4" long.
I got a jar of them in Stainless as well as Zinc plated. But you could probably get them faster locally then from my warehouse. These are old pictures. There is even more stuff/selection to choose from.
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I am confident our local hardware store has them. I had several about 2" long but they would interfere with the swivel on the seat so in this case shorter would be better if it came to that.
Quote from: Crusarius on April 18, 2022, 07:57:35 PM
Tom, thats because you are old :)
I mean this in the nicest possible way :)
Actually, I figured someone would say something. I know I am one of the younger members here, so I expected it :)
YUP, thats me! Old.
But I saw early on those dang things were KILLING kids creativity. They sat on the couch ALL day long. I felt this was a lot like what television had done to my generation and I wasn't going to have it in my house. My son hated me for it and there were a lot of fights and arguments. When he was about 20, he saw the light and thanked me for it because he saw a lot of his friends never had learned how to fix anything, use tools, or even change a tire. My son taught himself how to weld when he was 14 (poorly, but he did it), he built forts in the woods and took lawnmowers apart and learned how engines worked. I thought I had won, but I didn't. All of his kids have tablets and spend too much time on them, one is non-stop. It just too easy as a parent to let the kids play those games to 'keep busy'.
Sorry, it's just the way an old guy thinks. Some call it 'old ways', some call it 'perspective'.
Tom, I am right there with you. I have 2 kids and they have tablets and video games. Once the weather turns there will be much less screen time for them.
I understand but at the same time I could not keep it from them since I knew all of their friends would be into them and they would be left out of everything.
I try to have good old fashioned beliefs and morale, but it sure can be tough to balance it all.
Quite true and for sure it is really difficult. I told both my kids they were welcome to go to their friends homes and play all the video games they wanted, but when their friends came here, it was forts in the woods, campfires, soccer, or some other 'thing' that required no voltage.
I didn't know it until years later but apparently I got known as the 'cool Dad' who did 'stuff'. Go figger.
I still want to build mini baja cars for the whole family :) Giver everyone a 15hp briggs and then put a 600 sdi in mine :)
I'm back 🙈
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Pulled into my job for the day and started setting up, but decided I wanted to move the mill over about 10'. So, I jumped in the truck and moved the mill over. Unhooked and pulled the truck out of the way, apparently I had already pulled the fender and placed it under the mill.
ouch!
It can be straightened but it won't be easy and surely will not be as purdy when you finish. (At least that is what I have been told.) :-X
I got it straight enough to make it home. I may introduce it to the anvil tomorrow and see if I can get it close to original 😁
You can expect a lot of noise so wear your ear plugs. (At least that is what I have been told.) :-X
On the video game talk- They do make lumberjacking games now. They are a bit frustrating to play, probably similar to real life, but they are out there.
The killed creativity is real. My kids don't have a clue what to do if they are sent outside.
Build forts, work on lawn mowers, throw rocks at bottles in a brook. Oh the life I lived. ;D
Those outside things took creative EFFORT (meaning a little bit of work), a stick fort does not build itself, worms don't dig themselves, that fishing hole where the creek dumps into the river is a mile bike ride, gotta walk 3 blocks to the basketball court on the playground to play horse. Parent can just hand th e phone to peanut and they can get programmed while mom/dad/other talks to the doctor about the dog. Then we gotta sit out in the car for a minute to update the world on instagram before we leave, while the kids watch a show in the back seat....get off my lawn....
Crossroads, Might be easier to just get a replacement fender (standard LT series interchangeable part). Also bouncing logs off the fenders on a utility trailer loading and unloading will have similar results (or so I've learned). ;D
But if you want a replacement fender from Wood-Mizer $$$ (At least that is what I have been told.) :-X
You can save some by just getting the fender instead of its kit with bungees, stickers, misc hardware flap, etc. so ive been told too.
Seems to be a lot of people telling stories about Woodmizer fenders 😎
Didn't make it to the anvil today, so I saved a pair of earplugs for future projects.
A hydraulic press or even a wood splitter and some blocking will help minimize the hammering needed to straighten that fender. Follow pressing with alternating hammering and tweaking with an adjustable wrench, it can be straightened to be serviceable.
I've even straightened a few things with the big hydraulic press front end loader in my tractor 8)
I have entirely too much experience straightening fenders an the like. :o
I was thinking some soft ground and a fence post or 4x4 to reshape it
It works for rear truck bumpers.
Boy I should just give up. I even called WM about tips for replacing the debarker blade and the tech said lock the blade with a pair of vice grips so I did but after 1/4 turn it all spun. Finally last night it dawned on me how dumb I was. All I had to do was put an open end wrench on the collar above the blade and it locked the shaft and the nut turned and came off.
Now the blade with vice grips still firmly attached would not fit between the end of the shaft and the guard as it was too thick so I took the motor loose from the bracket trying to get more space, then I even loosened the 3 screws to the motor to get a little more space in the guard area and finally got it out. Then I noticed the new blade was thinner than the one I took off. I got to checking and found my vice grips had the old blade locked to a 4"-5" collar. I removed the VGs and the two separated. What I found was when the blade was separated from the collar it easily slipped between the space between the bottom of the shaft and the guard.
I finally got everything put back together and it is running. Now I just need to adjust to run on track with the blade which should be an easy fix or always has been in the past. The good thing is where I broke the end of my 5/32" Allen wrench in the set screw earlier, the broken piece fell out and that works okay now too.
All I needed to do was get my 1-1/8" end wrench to hold the collar and my 1-1/16" socket to turn the nut loose, slip the single, old bad blade out, slide the new one back in against the collar and put the nut back on and tighten. No broken Allen wrenches, no disassembling the entire debarker and no re-adjustment required. I probably spent an hour or more on a simple 5 minute task. Duuuh!
I assume the WM tech already figured I was using an end wrench on the collar and did not mention that.
The worst part is that blade has been on there 7 years and by the time I wear out the current one I'll probably have forgotten all this and do it again. ::)
Howard, I am going to try to put this in the most sympathetic and brotherly manner I can.
You do know WM has manuals with great drawings that show all the parts and order of assembly right? It makes the work fairly simple when you know how the parts go. It's almost like cheating but it saves time a pain.
I have had our debarker blade off an on a half dozen times in the past 4 months as I tried to figure out how to stop tripping the breakers, never had the slightest issue, but I did look at the manual and drawings first.
I know you like the challenge of figuring it out and take it on like a great sport, but sometimes you just have to take a shortcut and read the manual.
Sorry for your trouble, but you've just become an expert. (You will of course forgive me for smirking as I read your post, I just couldn't help myself.)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 20, 2022, 04:04:34 PM
Boy I should just give up. I even called WM about tips for replacing the debarker blade and the tech said lock the blade with a pair of vice grips so I did but after 1/4 turn it all spun. Finally last night it dawned on me how dumb I was. All I had to do was put an open end wrench on the collar above the blade and it locked the shaft and the nut turned and came off.
Now the blade with vice grips still firmly attached would not fit between the end of the shaft and the guard as it was too thick so I took the motor loose from the bracket trying to get more space, then I even loosened the 3 screws to the motor to get a little more space in the guard area and finally got it out. Then I noticed the new blade was thinner than the one I took off. I got to checking and found my vice grips had the old blade locked to a 4"-5" collar. I removed the VGs and the two separated. What I found was when the blade was separated from the collar it easily slipped between the space between the bottom of the shaft and the guard.
I finally got everything put back together and it is running. Now I just need to adjust to run on track with the blade which should be an easy fix or always has been in the past. The good thing is where I broke the end of my 5/32" Allen wrench in the set screw earlier, the broken piece fell out and that works okay now too.
All I needed to do was get my 1-1/8" end wrench to hold the collar and my 1-1/16" socket to turn the nut loose, slip the single, old bad blade out, slide the new one back in against the collar and put the nut back on and tighten. No broken Allen wrenches, no disassembling the entire debarker and no re-adjustment required. I probably spent an hour or more on a simple 5 minute task. Duuuh!
I assume the WM tech already figured I was using an end wrench on the collar and did not mention that.
The worst part is that blade has been on there 7 years and by the time I wear out the current one I'll probably have forgotten all this and do it again. ::)
Highlight this post, copy and paste to a word document, Save as: how to change debarker blade. Print and put in manual, with the date on it.
issue solved till next time.
Jim Rogers
Just to poke back in fun, OGH, it only took Howard and hour. sounds like it took you 4 months to do it 6 times. :D :D :D
I like Jim's suggestion best. ;D
I confess I did look for a video but none found and I had called the expert. It looked so simple, what could go wrong? Kind of like changing a spark plug or such.
I did put a band on, got my blade guide tilt tool out and got the Debarker blade lined up dead center with the blade and all the nuts and bolts are snug. I am betting with all those new sharp teeth it does dig in a lot more and I may be tripping the breaker more too.
Tom,
Did you figure out your tripping issue?
WM had a half inch blade with them when they did my service but I figured it would trip even more and the 1/4" blade has been running perfectly in line ahead of my blade so why mess with what works?
I will see Friday. I have an order for 1700 bf of poplar framing and got the full payment in today's mail. Must be a native born WV as it had a Possum Creek Road address.
Good point Doc! But in all fairness, and to Howard's question also, the issue turned out to be quite a bit of confusion on WM's part as to which way the motor and blade should turn for a given version of the debarker arm and swing motor. It would seem they have lost track of the revisions because there are so many floating around now. When I figured that out and confirmed for myself the wisdom of a bunch of FF members, I just went through the various iterations (hence the blade change practice) and wound up reversing the wiring on the motor and flipping the blade. That solved it, and in 4 months I have tripped the breaker only twice, (still running with the old breaker) both times when it jammed up on branch stubs. So now the motor spins in reverse of the factory setup and throws chips away from the operator. I should caution others, there are a few different arm lengths out there, this just happens to be the right configuration for this arm and swing motor setup.
I knew you could take a little teasing OGH. Howard, I wonder why you are having so much trouble tripping breaker. if they have up to a 1/2 inch wide de-barker. poss. a faulty/worn breaker, or a weak motor that pulls too many amps under load, or a battery that has low voltage so pull more amps to achieve the watts required.
Doc,
I have not been having trouble tripping the breaker but I also only had one tooth left on the debarker blade. What I said was I was afraid I might start tripping the breaker because I now have a full set of sharp teeth on the blade and I expect it to want to dig in and possibly bind more. Hopefully I will be wrong and I can just feather it against the log and cut a nice straight 1/4" groove just ahead of the band. I think the 1/2" blades were designed for people who do a poor job of lining their debarker blade up with their band.
I am glad to know a man from WV with a full set of teeth! :o :o 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :)
I'm hoping the Ibu kicks in before the big swelling tonight. We had removed 3 layers of old floor in the kitchen at work to expose the original. Of course under the sink it was sketchy. I even looked at it this morning and made a mental note to throw a sheet of ply over it... but I didn't. I had met with my boss this morning and we decided that we would sawzall the nails from underneath, install 3/4 ply subfloor and reinstall the original flooring. The sketchy stuff under the cabinets is hidden and would be replaced. I had removed the triple window from that wall and then the studs, one every 4', one of which made it from floor to ceiling, good framing :D. There was a 1948 detective magazine behind the caninet and hundreds of razor blades. I was building the new section of wall and called DB to help lift the 7' window header into place. Nice poplar with hard square edges. As soon as I began to lift, the floor let go under me. One leg went through and it rolled me till an elbow crashed through another place. But what concerned me in the instant was I had lost the header and it was about to land on my noggin. Luckily DB had the presence to pitch it outside as far as he could from his end and it cleared me. Soo banged up and hoping the rotator held together. Memo to self, don't walk on sketchy, gravity is a powerful thing.
You're too old for that falling down stuff.
Watch it.
Jim Rogers
Well, if I can add a broader moral to the story. With header in hand I weighed more than I had, but I'd be willing to bet I had made contact and begun to push. More than a few times I've site built some piece of scaffold and thrown a plank on it... or even on a 300lb rated walkboard. Then I realize I've thrown something on my shoulder and seriously shoved it into place. As the poor plank under my feet groans Mr Newton comes into focus. Yup, I shoved up with several hundred pounds of oomph, the equal and opposite reaction was my feet driving the plank down every bit as hard + the weight of my handsome physique. Been lucky more than I've been good :).
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 12, 2022, 10:23:08 AMDid you know that a porcupine puffer fish in the Red Sea eats coral and when you try to lip lock him like a bass
Long winters back then? :D
I took four 5 gallon cans to get some off road diesel.
After about 15 gallons and $60 I stopped pumping. Did not need that fourth can. ::)
I have brought 5 cans at one time.
Have you figured out I have not needed diesel in about a month?
:o >:(
Remember the days when $20 of gas would fit in 5 gal can 🤷♂️🙄🤦♂️
Michelle was pumping gas on the way home, there were a couple of jugs sitting there on the island. Mark came driving up to the pumps. Loaded the 2 jugs of diesel in his truck, laughing, "I got halfway home when I realized I hadn't loaded them in the truck." I do like it here :).
Quote from: JJ on April 25, 2022, 10:52:45 PMRemember the days when $20 of gas would fit in 5 gal can
I remember when I couldn't put $20 worth of gas in my 1972 Nova.>:(
Quote from: doc henderson on April 20, 2022, 10:39:09 PM
I am glad to know a man from WV with a full set of teeth! :o :o 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :)
The toothbrush was invented in WV.If it had been anywhere else they would have called it a teethbrush :D
I could not find MagicMan's posts of several of his bumps, bruises and scrapes. I promise not to show my feet but today, after sawing an order of 2x4's for a repeat customer, I bumped my head while trying to pull some 4x4's out of lumber pile.
The customer, Nick, was adamant that one 4x4 was enough when I offered to saw a couple more for him. I've been dealing with a stomach bug for most of the week and once I bumped my head I instantly felt better. It must have been the endorphins released or something. The neighbor came over and stitched up my head after Jmoore and my oldest daughter declined. I gave her a few Confederate Jasmines and will likely give her a porch swing for saving me a trip to town. John showed up in time to hold the flashlight and brought some Busch products, which were well received.
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You big dummy... :-X
That looks like it smarted
That's more than a bump. Hope it heals quickly.
Is that scar on the forehead sort of like 'character' in wood? :o
That is going to leave a mark :).
Quote from: TroyC on April 30, 2022, 08:54:06 PM
Is that scar on the forehead sort of like 'character' in wood? :o
Maybe he is spalting?
Geez, if that is what you call a bump, I would hate to see what you call a serious whack. Heal up and take a couple more Busch, but don't call me in the morning. ;D
looks like the bleeding has stopped! :D
Nothing like walking around with a frankentstein scar. Well, its a look. smiley_furious smiley_swinging_board
smiley_thumbsdown glad I had eaten a while ago human stuff grosses me out....uggh...
Supper glue works well for that.
In this application superglue is way waaaaay better than duct tape. Don't ask know I know.... :D
Quote from: Nebraska on April 30, 2022, 10:07:08 PM
smiley_thumbsdown glad I had eaten a while ago human stuff grosses me out....uggh...
Now that's funny right there! I am just the opposite. On a human it's not much of an issue at all. People leak sometimes, but if that were on an animal, especially someone's pet, I would have a hard time dealing with it. I believe you and I already had that conversation offline though.
I banged up my pinky finger working on the flatbed yesterday, but Caveman takes the cake for severity if amount of blood lost is a good measure. I didn't bleed nearly that much. I knew I would bust some knuckles breaking bolts free removing the old bed and of course it happened on the last one. Maybe I will wear some mechanics gloves next time. Probably not.
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Yeah, that Caveman caved in his forehead.
If you hit yourself and get cut above the eyebrows, you will get LOTS of blood. It's even more fun when it gets in your eyes and your on top of an unfinished roof can't see trying to climb down. (I learned this years ago). :-X
Yeah Resonator, you are right. Lots of blood vessels up there without much space between the skin and the skull. It's even worse when it's really cold and that blood is pumping up there to keep the head warm.
I was camping a long time ago in February and it was cold, about 5 degrees. One of the men in the group was hand splitting firewood with a hand ax. One of the splits exploded (frozen wood) and a flinch caught him in the forehead. He bled like a pig hung on the pole. Blood was running down his face and splitting the stream over his nose before running around his mouth and filling his beard and spilling on the snow. He started laughing when he saw all of us looking at him horrified and running for first aid gear. It was only a 1 inch clean slice, but man did he bleed! Someplace I have a photo with that blood running down his face in a river. His only complaint was that it got in his eyes and mixed with the tears he developed from laughing so hard, it was hard for him to see and enjoy the sight of us in a panic. I have never seen a man laugh so hard while bleeding so profusely.
I guess you had to be there.
Caveman - how bad was the wood damaged? :D
Yikes, that's a good one caveman! Did I understand correctly that you had in-home stitches? I've gotten stitches a bunch of times and feel confident enough that I could do them at home too, should the need arise.
Maybe the doctors in the house can tell me why that's a terrible idea, other than pain and infection? It took me a while to pay off the last ones received.
I stitched my own knee, and my son put staples in his leg under my guidance. forehead is tough. trying to sew in the mirror can be tough. I could not have done the bottom of my foot as it is hard to get to and the combo of pain and ticklish made it hard enough for someone else to numb. either arm would be tough due to needed two hands to do a good job. glue and steri. strips are easier. if you care what your forehead looks like, it is best to do a deep layer and a skin layer. it keeps the tension off the skin sutures and prevent a deep groove from developing when the tissue under the skin retracts. It aint rocket science, but drugs and two hands are helpful.
Doc,
That reminds me of the old joke about the guy who came home drunk, fell on the front steps and broke the pint bottle in his back pocket and cut his hinder parts. He sneaked into the house and patched himself up and sneaked in the bed without waking his wife.
A few hours later he woke up to his wife screaming "You've been drinking again!" He confessed then asked how she knew. She pointed at the bathroom and he went in and found the bathroom mirror bandaged with medical tape. ::)
I've never put my own in but have taken mine out before, I had a bunch in my upper forehead from a broken/ flying cutoff wheel in a hand grinder. I would move the stitches back and forth a couple times a day so when I pulled them out they came out easy, just clip them off and slowly pull the thread through.... almost painless.
My Father use to tell the story about his father, (a Minnesota farmer.) Putting up barb wire and cut a 90 degree flap of skin on his cheek. Dad said he watched him stand in from of a mirror and stitch up his face. This would have been in the late 20's.
Dang, looks like you were on a mission when you "bumped " your head! Bet that crossed your eyes for a second...
Thanks for the confidence booster Doc. I'll let you know when I need amputated due to lack of cleanliness!
In the picture it looks like my forehead got split. The cut was actually up higher on my head, which is covered by hair. Had the neighbor not stitched it, I'd shaved a spot and applied a few butterfly bandages and superglue. That spot on my forehead is just a wrinkle.
My dreams of a modeling or acting career ended years ago, probably when I was 12 and lost a fly ball in the sun. I had a hole above my chin that got stitched inside and out. The doc that stitched that one must have been named Igor. It was a few years before I could hide that one with facial hair.
I was crouched down moving to pull a 4x4 out of a stack while the lift or two above was supported with the tractor's forks. The fork I bumped into was above my hat bill/line of sight. I had enough momentum going when I hit it that I fell backward, rolled and popped back up. The DanG thing is about healed now. I'll get someone to pull the stitches out next weekend after I get home from Oklahoma (FFA National Land and Homesite).
Quote from: caveman on May 03, 2022, 10:24:50 PM
My dreams of a modeling or acting career ended years ago, probably when I was 12 and lost a fly ball in the sun. I had a hole above my chin that got stitched inside and out. The doc that stitched that one must have been named Igor. It was a few years before I could hide that one with facial hair.
Have you ever looked close at Tommy Lee Jones? Don't give up on your dreams! :o :o :D :D :D :D
Almost had a major entry for this page. The last couple time pulling my flatbed trailer out of my driveway, the jack dragged. I thought it was odd, but figured the ground had settled. The other day I had the excavator on and the jack dragged as it had been doing. I had a Dr. Appointment before the digging job, so I had a nice flat parking lot to look things over. At first , I thought the tongue needed to be adjusted to raise the jack. But then the thought went through my head, what's changed? It didn't used to drag, but now it does. So, crawled under the truck with a flashlight. I didn't need a flashlight to see the problem. The trailer hitch receiver was cracked! I was able to weld a patch on it to get by until the new one was delivered. I don't scare easily, but that one made me pucker. Had it broken off clean, it would have had nothing to stop it. The safety chains are connected to the receiver and so is the breakaway safety cable. The new receiver just showed up, so I guess I know what this weekend has in store.
And that is the reason the safety chains and cable should be attached to the tow vehicle frame, not the receiver. ::) That could have got ugly in a hurry!
I wish they would actually design mounts like that into vehicles so you could have the chains and hitch on different parts. That is something the NHTSA should actually be a part of. along with corrosion resistant fuel and brake lines.
My dumb move for the day was after a week on the road and our last night in Charlotte NC to see the daughter and her family I went ahead and got a hotel room near I-77 convenient for tomorrow's departure. I picked the Day's Inn right behind the Azteca Restaurant. Apparently the Azteca is a popular fairly upscale Mexican Restaurant. I did not think about today being the5th of May - Cinco de Mayo. ::) We got back to our room and had to park slam back at the north 40 as the restaurant have taken up all the parking near the front where our room is. Now I wonder how rowdy the crowd will be all night. ???
Note to self - do not check into a hotel by a Mexican restaurant on 5/5.
My ex ask one time if Cinco de mayo is on the same day every year. 🙈
Yes, that could have been all bad. I may end up figuring out a way to connect the chains separately going forward.
That's like going on a honeymoon to Key West during Pride Week! :D A buddy and his wife made that mistake- "He said it was "memorable" :o :o :D :D
Had two dumb moves yesterday but too embarrassing to tell.
Helps to get it out though.
Glad that we could help out tt!
😁😁
Terrifictimbers, you didn't get it out. Just sayin'
I think I married Crossroad's ex's sister and TT should be severely chastised or sanctioned for leaving us all hanging. :D
hurt_smiley popcorn_smiley
Broke the pull cord on my Stihl MS180C, easy fix right? Went to put the new cord on the pulley, and the recoil spring inside the cover decided to uncoil into an angry twisted slinky... ::)
(Sure no one else has ever did that). :D
Those are NOT fun!
If you got it back together then it is a wash! :D
Oh no!
Nope, never had one of those recoil springs jump out at me. :) Guess I was born with intrinsic knowledge about recoil springs. :D If you believe this.......
another tough one is if you take the side cover off a Huski, and the brake gets out of sync. it is a two-man job to twist it back so the brake will fit over the clutch. strong spring, and just about in, the whole set fly out in your face. My buddy did this at my house. took a while and an assortment of tools.
Last time this happened I ended up buying a "new" (used) starter cover assembly and just replacing it. I tried to get the spring coiled back in, and watched a couple you tube videos that claim to do it in 5 minutes. :D :D :D
After a couple hours... smiley_furious
I'm shopping for another cover. :D
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2nd day with toe boards. 🤨 I guess I've made my first 10' pine wedge.
You didn't buy toe boards just to get into this thread did you? :D
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on May 08, 2022, 01:37:52 PM
You didn't buy toe boards just to get into this thread did you? :D
Wasn't the intention, but it sure got me here quick!😁
We attended funeral visitation and flew our big American Flag from the aerial for one of our past members and board member. I washed my class A uniform shirt so it would be nice anc clead. Of course I had to remove all of my insignia and name tag and badge. I put it all back on to get ready to go. One of my captains tells me my collar brass is on upside down. I was like what do you mean upside down. I went to look in the mirror and this is what I found. Oops. Luckily he noticed it before we left for the funeral home.
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Is that "First Major, Master Petty Officer, Lt Corporal" brass? :D
:D Flip your collar up you'd be OK.
Well Bill, it's much better that a Captain told you rather than a probie. :D :D ;D
I hate being upside down :).
BTW, thanks for triggering a whole flood of White Helmet Jokes through my head as I tried to wake up this morning. It's been quite a while. :)
I'll blame myself and the bees!
We have about 10 hives kept by a coworker's son in the back field, they are in the top left corner of the picture below (you can kind of see a white row of hives), and this is last year's track. I also use that back field as a gokart track and 'tis the season to get a course mowed out. I went out yesterday and start a my first couple passes, just doing a big oval around the long and narrow field. When I get close to the hives I turn out maybe 50-80 feet from the hives. I made two passes out that way and on my third and furthest pass I see, out of the corner of my eye, a bee fly right up to my right temple and stab the crap out of me. Ouch! Then another, and another. I start panicking a bit as I know they'll leave their pheromones (sp?) to tell others to attack. I grab my hat and start waiving it around my head to hopefully knock some bees away as I stomp on the gas to get out. I think another 2 or so got me before I was far away enough that they'd stopped. I continued mowing until my mower deck belt broke, and as my face was hurting I was ok heading in for a bit of Vitamin V (vodka!) and my lovely wife wiped some goo on my head and gave me a benedryl. Not too much swelling today but that chunk of my face is a little numb and when shaking my head I'm dizzy a bit faster than normal.
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Next time make a paste with MSG (Accent) and spread it on. You'll back back to work in 5.
Well, my real rank is Battalion Chief, but you certainly couldn't tell by looking at my collar.
I should have thought of just lifting my collar and heading out. The Fire Chief would have liked that. Not.
White helmet jokes? Who would ever tell white helmet jokes?
I tried to fix it by looking in the mirror. That was impossible, so I had to have the captain who noticed it fix it for me.
Aig, sounds like next year you need to turn about 100 feet from the bees.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 09, 2022, 04:26:52 PM...
White helmet jokes? Who would ever tell white helmet jokes?
I tried to fix it by looking in the mirror. That was impossible, so I had to have the captain who noticed it fix it for me.
Just about anybody who doesn't wear a white helmet. :D Don't get me started.
Yeah, I could never does the collar brass and nameplates etc while I was wearing the shirt. Even laying flat on the bed I would have to take a couple stabs to get it right. 3 or 4 trumpets for a BC in your Department? I know there's a photo here somewhere in your dress blues.
BC is two crossed trumpets. Captain is two parallel trumpets.
Wow, that would confuse me. I am used to 1 for LT, 2 for Capt (either way, I think mine were crossed, I'd have to check), 3 for Ast Chief, 4 for Chief, 5 for BC. All officers wore white shirts above LT, and anyone above Capt had a white helmet so we could see them coming. ;D
Med Director 5 stars.
FFOTS- You are probably right. Either 100 feet away or not in the heat of the midafternoon. I can wait until dusk when they all come home and likely be ok. It's amazing how minor swelling can be on your face and it seems like a lot!
when my brother did road construction, he gave me a shite (white) hard hat. I would go to visit him on a job, and all the road workers just waved, no one stopped me to ask who I was and where I thought I was going. they thought I might be one of the bosses.
I went outside to start my day, but noticed some tools sitting on the back cover of my truck. I then realized that I had driven the truck to pick up my son last night. A total of 20 miles on curvy roads. I was amazed that two socket wrenches, snap ring pliers and a socket road without falling off. I knew there were some other sockets sitting up there, so I walked my driveway and found 2 sockets. I then remembered that on the way home last night I remember seeing a socket on the road and thought about stopping to pick it up. I decided against it, but now that I know it was probably my socket I should have stopped. In my memory it appeared to be about a 13/16 socket that I had been using to work on my flatbed. Dang it!
Hmm, that socket laying in the road looks just like mine... :o :D
Leaving wrenches on the inner fender while working on a car, shutting the hood, and then driving away doesn't guarantee they'll still be there when you get home either. :-X
I scan the road looking for tools. I've got some real beauties too, a nearly new Eastwig framing hammer for one. I've lost my share as well, the worst being a custom made heavy duty ramp for my trailer. That one was lost once before and when I got home it made me so sick I determined to find it, sure enough it was on the corner of a 4 way busy intersection half way back. I guess it was determined to run off and eventually did.
Not my worst move ever, but managed to drive up I-41 about a hundred miles yesterday with the tail end of one ratchet strap dragging on the road. DanG, thought we'd tied all loose ends. Load was secure, we just probably looked dumb.
Said load was an old Simplicity 7116 lawn tractor, our latest project. Price was right-free-and unit will cut grass right now, but does need some love. Nice wide cut, this is gonna help up at the shack. Only have smaller Toro rider up there now, which has been giving us grief anyway, was too small-mowing takes too long.
Best part-Simplicity colors match our Bobcat tractor paint!
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 12, 2022, 09:11:13 AMIn my memory it appeared to be about a 13/16 socket that I had been using to work on my flatbed.
I have a few that I've found. Want me to send you one ;)
Years ago I read that hanging a big wad of keys from an ignition switch could damage it. I was skeptical until a locksmith chimed in and verified it. Uh oh, breaking apart my keys is gonna lead to trouble but I started doing it anyway.
Before taking my truck on an errand I removed the truck key from the ring but remembered I need to make sure the trailer hitch was installed so as I walked to the rear I placed the rest of the keys on the tool box(note: this is the part I forgot about), checked the hitch and then got in the truck drove off. Upon returning I couldn't find the rest of my keys. I looked and looked but to no avail and finally decided to retrace my steps using the car. I thought is was a snowball's chance in you-know-where of finding the keys but as I drove over the gravel road (just in front of our house) a shiny object caught my eye. I realized then that I had put them on the toolbox and they fell off - and in front of my house. Talk about luck!!!
I also keep my eyes peeled for tools in the road and every once in a while I'll find something. This all apparently started when I was a wee tyke of maybe 15 or 16 years old when I found a tiny adjustable wrench laying in the road when my buddy and I were walking around. It's only about maybe 2" long and has an opening of less than half inch. I still have it on my key ring to this day, and I've actually used it a few times (mostly for opening beers I think).
In the Home Depot parking lot a few weeks ago. "Hey lady do you always drive around with your cell phone laying on top your car?" :D :D
I drove 12 miles from a sawing job with the metal bar used to adjust the outriggers laying on the hydraulics box. On the other hand I lost it in the driveway behind my shop on my way to a sawmill job once.
I have been known to stop and pick up tools that I see on the road. I found a very nice snap-on brand screwdriver.
I was out playing in the glamis sand dunes one time in my jeep, well, like many trips I ended up breaking something. So when I was laying under the jeep in the sand I kept getting stabbed by something. Ends up it was a 1/2" gear wrench. That wrench got alot of use by me.
I did also find a bunch of other sockets there. talk about lucky breaking down same place as someone else :)
Some guys are so smart they'll put things like knives, screwdrivers, and other sharp tools in their pockets when they're crouching around working on stuff.🙋
I had a socket fall into the abyss one time when servicing my pickup - could not find it and eventually gave up on it. Next service - 10,000 miles later, I am under the truck and see something on a frame member - there is my socket. Never would have guessed that was possible.
My long ago buddy and workmate set his can of soda on the chipper fender in between sips, in the shop one morning. Later we got to the job site. He got out of the cab, walked back to the chipper, grabbed the soda can where it still sat on that fender, and resumed drinking his refreshing beverage.
Almost!
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Didn't see until I rolled past it on the 1st cut.
Missed it by less than 1/4 inch.
Keep your eyes open if your going to skip checking logs with the metal detector.
QuoteLast time this happened I ended up buying a "new" (used) starter cover assembly and just replacing it. I tried to get the spring coiled back in, and watched a couple you tube videos that claim to do it in 5 minutes. (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Update on this, the temp hit 90°+ this week and I decided to work on this inside (shade). smiley_sun
Laid the starter cover on the workbench, and fabricated a wood block jig to keep the spring in while winding it. Got it back together, and the 180C runs and lives to saw another day! 8)
I will try to remember this the next time a pull cord breaks. :D
Quote from: Southside on May 12, 2022, 11:29:18 PM
I had a socket fall into the abyss one time when servicing my pickup - could not find it and eventually gave up on it. Next service - 10,000 miles later, I am under the truck and see something on a frame member - there is my socket. Never would have guessed that was possible.
I dropped a socket down into the depths of my Accord one day. Got the magnet on a stick out and fished around under the firewall behind the brake booster, beside the clutch master where the sucker was hiding. Click. Bingo! Stuck it back on the ratchet and back to work. But it didn't fit. Turns out the socket I found was a 12mm. Mine was a 10. Another 10 mins of fishing around did not turn up my 10mm.
Peeled the back off of my hand today:
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And I had leather gloves on. This old man thin skin thing is no fun. :-X
Man that sucks and I hate it. It seems to take nothing sometimes. I took care of my folks, both well past 90 when they passed on and their skin was so thin. Really had some advanced experience with my Pop in his mid 90's doing wound care on him. The Doc caring for him was really good and taught me a lot when he found out I had some training. But that was then.
Now it happens to me a lot. Playing some fun with the cats makes me look like I just left the battlefield. Nobody wants to see what my shins look like, bump a log and the blood flows. It's why I won't wear shorts when working. I constantly have holes in me somewhere. You have to be careful with that partial de-gloving that you got. Infection is the issue. Just be anal about keeping it clean and you already know the rest of the drill.
The other night the wife says "ah, WHAT did you do now?!" and I asked what she was talking about. She grabs my arm and twists it and I can see it is covered in dried blood. Took me a while to recall rubbing it on a log while climbing down off the pile. I don't hardly even feel it. The biggest annoyance is the stains on shirts and stuff. It doesn't come out easy and leaves brown spots after washing. Although @WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) might tell you it is purple.
Heal up Lynn, keep it clean.
It was actually my customer, but I found these when I got home this evening after a 30 mile drive.
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Your customer gave you his shoes?
Must have been a tip.
Was they allergic to sawdust? ???
(A shoe! A shoe!) :D
Quote from: Resonator on May 16, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
Was they allergic to sawdust? ???
(A shoe! A shoe!) :D
OH dang man! That is bad, but it did make me laugh! :D
Lol, good one! He set them down, then sat on a log to write my check. Apparently they weren't that important
Quote from: Resonator on May 16, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
Was they allergic to sawdust? ???
(A shoe! A shoe!) :D
Thats it! Your cut off!!! :)
Hope there's more of him left than that. :o
No way! It'd been funny seeing that rolling down the road with some shoes on it.
I don't know how you guys do it. Granted, sometimes I drive like a maniac but I couldn't leave my driveway without something falling off my car.
According to my wife, I'm the worst driver ever, so it must fall solely on luck lol
A couple years ago I put my board return on and when I got done I couldn't find the second 9/16 ratchet wrench I had been using. A few months later I decided to take the board return off and there was my wrench, on the nut jammed against the frame.....
I've told this tale before but many years ago we bought our son a hamster from K-mart and it died a couple days later. My wife called because it had a warranty and the guy said bring it in for a replacement. She stuck it in a ziplock bag in the freezer then a couple days later she was going to town so she took it out and walked to the car. She'd forgotten something so she laid it on top of the Impala and went back in the house to get it, came back and drove off with the dead, frozen hamster on top. A mile down the road she remembered and got out but it had blown off. She turned around and drove slowly looking for it. She found it and while there was not much traffic a car had come by and run over the hamster. Un deterred she picked it up and took it straight to K-Mart. She walked in, held it up to the pet dept manager and said "My hamster died." The guy looked at this flat, frozen hamster and asked "What did you do, run over him with a steam roller?" She told the tale and he laughed and gave her a replacement.
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My dumb move may be cutting this tree. It is 21' to the fork and 31" at the cut. Now I'm wondering if I'm going to be able to get that butt log out of the woods with my undersized 750 JD tractor and ATV. A 12' and 16' cut off of the right fork pretty well maxed out tractor dragging it back to the mill site. I'm thinking a long cable, snatch block and come rollers may be called for as well as some help. We will see.
Looks like a lot of good lumber in there WV! I hope you don't need to buck it up too much more!
It's a beautiful log. I suspect I'll have to cut a an 8' log off the butt just to move it leaving me a 12' log above. I'm not sure I can drag it to my sawing site and may end up sawing it in the yard. ::)
i sat a hot ceramic mug of coffee on my bumper while hitching up the scout trailer and the other 30 things left to do in the 5 minutes before you leave. i made it 3 blocks and thought, "where is my coffee"? stopped and got it off the bumper. It was a little too hot anyway, now it was just right! :)
IOWs doc, an intentional act👍.
Two days in a row now I have had a 'blood letting. :-X
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I have been told that if you let a blade slip out of your hand while uncoiling, such can happen. ::)
There's a lot of near "medical"incidents happening with you Lynn. I've noticed that your photos show high quality bandages and expert placements. You truly are a man that will excel at all you do. 😁😉
Mental note - check your travelling inventory of medical supplies. Also, take care, as we like our Senior Sawyer to be in one piece!
The passenger side door is well stocked with Band-Aids and it took three today to make me stop leaking. My sock was also soaked.
I dunno Lynn, yesterday your bark was slipping and today your sap was running. Ever wonder if you are spending too much time with trees?
Lynn,
I you were back in the Army they would probably shut the battalion down for a safety stand down. I'm sure glad nothing like that ever happens to me. ::) Stay safe and be careful. Think of yourself as one of those lead steers (Bulls?) at the front of the cattle drive guiding the rest of the herd through the dust, Indians and other turmoil till the end of the trail. (I think I read some of them were actually boxed up and shipped back several times for the next drive to do it all over again. ;))
Gonna have to get you some catcher pads and shin guards! :o
Your going to have to take better care of yourself.I still have a lot to learn :laugh:
I remember this movie from way back. I think it was called? Bubble boy?? :)
It all comes out in the wash!
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I have no idea how the blade uncoiling did this....but it did. ::)
You should try sticking a spinning 4½" zip cut wheel under your thumb nail like I did yesterday, it felt great....lucky it didn't get too far.
Lynn, if they will cut a tree, they will cut your skin. better not let Ms. pat see all those. I got a puncture to my palm once uncoiling a blade. it rotated right in, and the blade did not seem to feel a thing! :)
That sorcery of coiling bands ought to be ruled Un-Constitutional. :D It must be like having the ability to curl your tongue - it's a genetic thing.
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I have no idea how the blade uncoiling did this....but it did. ::)
You mean this isn't normal? I've just come to expect leaks when uncoiling bands. Now I know better 😎
I have no problem coiling up a used band, its the uncoiling I have not mastered. I have watched videos but still have not figured it out. :embarassed:
I have no problem coiling/uncoiling, this was an instance of carelessness I suppose. I guess there is always a first time. ::)
Are you going to have a new short sleeve shirt now, Lynn?
My blades get uncoiled in my fluffy grass. I've yet to damage a blade or myself doing it that way.
the uncoil by hand, is hard/complex. it seems you have to move from one coil to the next under spring tension. and the flip needs to be away from you. gloves are nice but do not stop a puncture. keep your tetanus up to date. I have only seen one case in my career. she was in hospital on a ventilator paralyzed for 2 months, then in rehab for 6 months in Colorado. Never got back to normal fully. she was 56 and poked by a rose thorn.
My then ~16 year old Grandson Luke uncoiling and coiling a blade:
IMG 7510 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR82hKoJzcY)
Maybe WM can develop a line of safety bands for the elderly sawyer, like safety scissors for pre-K.
wheeliechair smiley_old_guy :snowball1:
If we all just had a Luke!
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) how often should one have a tetanus booster?
It changes if we have a shortage. with an injury if more than 5 years, or at least every 10 is the schedule I use. In my office, occasionally I would order it on a patient, and they would refuse. my nurses knew to just come over and raise my sleeve and give it to me rather than waste it. It is part of the DPT in children's vaccines. and the adults get a dedicated booster (boostrix Tdap). I will check to make sure that is current. The capitol vs small letters designate the antigen. so, adults can react to the stronger antigens too much, so the adult version had acellular pertussis "ap" instead of the big P.
Adult Immunization Schedule by Vaccine and Age Group | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/adult.html)
Recommended Adult Immunization Schedule (cdc.gov) (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/adult/adult-combined-schedule.pdf)
the second link is a printable pdf
Thanks Doc.
My blade un coiling routine involves tossing it into the hay field by my mill. No rocks or anything out there to dull or dink the blade. It goes sproink and I am the heck away from it. They get shipped flat for resharp.
Quote from: Magicman on May 20, 2022, 06:20:22 AM
I have no problem coiling/uncoiling, this was an instance of carelessness I suppose. I guess there is always a first time. ::)
I suggest trying very hard at making the first time also the last time.
GAB
According to Doc Henderson I'm a smidgen overdue for a tetanus Shot.
My last one was in May of '74.
GAB
I have no idea why/how the blade made those double V shaped cuts?? Twern't no Rattlesnake around. ::)
You weren't backing up fast enough, that snake bit you twice :D.
I imagine I run tighter on tetanus, if the last one isn't a clear memory and I'm in a doc's office, hit me again bartender. I only drew blood on a dozen or two rusty mouse pooped nails this week and uncle fester is working on that funky black splinter ::).
My doctor is very good about keeping me up to date on my shots when I come in to see her, which I do my best to do at least once a year. Last week I got my fourth shot of anthrax vaccine, so if that happens to be around the sawmill I should be good on that too. That was done thru a grant from the feds and not my doc's office.
Coiling, uncoiling and inverting band isn't difficult, I believe some people get very nervous when handling very sharp things!
Here's the video that Dan and I made a few years ago, the demo is shown in post #42.
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I posted a video on YouTube many years ago. I got blasted by a few folks for not wearing safety gear, mainly gloves and glasses.
I maintain that if you know how to hold the bands, gloves aren't needed, and if you don't know what you are doing, they won't help much.
I gained muscle memory to coil bands by practicing with lawnmower belts. Lawn mower belts aren't like angry cats!
Quote from: Dan_Shade on May 20, 2022, 09:26:20 PM
I posted a video on YouTube many years ago. I got blasted by a few folks for not wearing safety gear, mainly gloves and glasses.
I maintain that if you know how to hold the bands, gloves aren't needed, and if you don't know what you are doing, they won't help much.
I gained muscle memory to coil bands by practicing with lawnmower belts. Lawn mower belts aren't like angry cats!
I have a couple of safety bands for practice. The side supports converted them to safety bands 😎
I did two dumb things this week. One was just about 30 minutes ago. I'm building a treehouse/deck for some people and I needed to notch a bunch of posts for the railing. I decided my bandsaw would be very helpful for that. It was until I made a cut and then tried to pull the post back out of the cut. The kerf had closed up and the blade wouldn't back out. I ended up pulling the blade off the wheels. Ruined the blade, but it didn't break. I had to cut it to get it out. I gave up and left the saw in a mess. I'll put a new blade on some other day.
Earlier this week after working on the finish for the extension table I built, I backed my truck back into the garage. I felt a little resistance and heard a crunch. I got out to see what I had hit. Well, I had an extra quart of lacquer and I backed over it. That was a mess and a waste.
Was it purple or brown? ;) :D
I'm going to be building a pole building for my mill this summer and had planned on notching the poles with the mill for the trusses. Thank you for the learning moment 😁
Multiple dumb things for the price of none! None were really terrible but given the circumstances, I'm mighty thankful to be able to do dumb things.
First, I've been awfully sick for 3 weeks with a full case of Covid-19. The first 6 or 7 days are a blur. The good news is today was my first day feeling near normal.
The first thing I did this afternoon was install two no flat tires and wheels on the front of my zero turn mower. That's not what was dumb. What was dumb is trying to catch up on mowing and getting the mower stuck twice! Had to get the tractor to pull it out both times. It's been wet here.
Then I needed to drain some excess water from the pool from the monsoon rains we've had since Sunday. So I opened the drain on the filter. The pressure blew the cap out of my hand and it bounced off the rocks in the drainage area. It disappeared. It took about 10 minutes to find it. Fortunately, there was plenty of water in the pool.
The last dumb thing had the potential to be a bucket of misery. I have a 1962 International Harvester Farmall 140 tractor. It has had some issues lately. My son and I started work on it before I got sick. It needed the carburetor cleaned and rebuilt and a full tune up. In the process, we determined the water pump was "singing", so we replaced it. That led to a new radiator. My sine did the tune up, carb work and water pump. Today I finished installing the radiator. I tightened all the hose clamps on MY WORK but didn't on my son's work.
Turned out he didn't tighten the clamps he put on. Once they were tight it quit leaking but only after I lost half the water and antifreeze.
All dumb and likely partly caused by Covid-19 brain fog. Yep that's it-Covid-19 fog.
Just a little sawing tip 😉....Yes I am cutting an ash log that I needed to do last year. It's pretty dry and hard... Gee that band isn't cutting well and I've only got about 80ft of running on it... kinda wavy cuts, powers not right, man Richard musta had an off day sharpening this one...Dull already...Had to quit and go look at a cow. Well l put the machines away the night here sun is down about dark now...
Pushed the head back into my shed, started to de -tension the band...Hmm blades cut much better if you tension them properly to start the session....I know I've posted this one before but eventually I will learn. At least i didn't knock my band off and ruin it.. ::)
Boy, your sharpener guy must be good if you can even cut with no tension on your blade even if the cut is wavy.
Never know he might actually read this and take the due credit for a good resharp. :)
Quote from: SawyerTed on May 25, 2022, 08:18:59 PM
Multiple dumb things for the price of none! None were really terrible but given the circumstances, I'm mighty thankful to be able to do dumb things.
First, I've been awfully sick for 3 weeks with a full case of Covid-19. The first 6 or 7 days are a blur. The good news is today was my first day feeling near normal.
The first thing I did this afternoon was install two no flat tires and wheels on the front of my zero turn mower. That's not what was dumb. What was dumb is trying to catch up on mowing and getting the mower stuck twice! Had to get the tractor to pull it out both times. It's been wet here.
Then I needed to drain some excess water from the pool from the monsoon rains we've had since Sunday. So I opened the drain on the filter. The pressure blew the cap out of my hand and it bounced off the rocks in the drainage area. It disappeared. It took about 10 minutes to find it. Fortunately, there was plenty of water in the pool.
The last dumb thing had the potential to be a bucket of misery. I have a 1962 International Harvester Farmall 140 tractor. It has had some issues lately. My son and I started work on it before I got sick. It needed the carburetor cleaned and rebuilt and a full tune up. In the process, we determined the water pump was "singing", so we replaced it. That led to a new radiator. My sine did the tune up, carb work and water pump. Today I finished installing the radiator. I tightened all the hose clamps on MY WORK but didn't on my son's work.
Turned out he didn't tighten the clamps he put on. Once they were tight it quit leaking but only after I lost half the water and antifreeze.
All dumb and likely partly caused by Covid-19 brain fog. Yep that's it-Covid-19 fog.
Ted,
I know this is a light hearted topic, but on a more serious note covid brain is a real thing. I have had a lot of problems since I had covid in January. Slowly improving, but not right yet. Not only mental, but my blood pressure and cholesterol problems have mysteriously resurfaced after several years of not being an issue. I'm glad you got through it OK, but be aware that there can be some lingering effects for some people.
Maybe it's my age, or maybe I jut notice it more, but I find that with any illness that messes up your ability to think temporarily can have lingering effects we all have to be cautious of. Those who are very quick and competent with things they have done for so long may have to slow their roll for a bit. Your confidence is high because you are good at what you do, but with that residual 'fog' after an illness your thought process can be dulled quite a bit more than you think. You can get hurt quick trying to work at your previous pace from the git-go.
My recent weeklong vertigo attack really messed me up on this score. I got back on the mill when I was 'stabilizing' and rolled a log up and took an opening cut. then the second face, then I stood there for 10 minutes trying to lay out in my head how I was going to get the boards out that I needed. I could not get it straight in my head how this log would go. It should have been, and was, simple, but I could not wrap my brain around it. It freaked me out a bit.
You gotta work back in slow and safe is all I'm saying.
Tom,
I'm sure everything will come back to you soon. I guess the older we get, the longer it takes to recover from seemingly minor things. I'm almost back to normal, but not quite yet.
Best wishes
Patrick
Nebraska - the performance of your band sounds a lot like what happens when a band is put on backwards - or so I have been told. ::)
Southside, I'd like to say I didn't know the reversed band, performance, sound and smell signs, I am familiar, I actually caught myself a few weeks ago trying to put the saw chain on backwards on my little Dolmar saw...(again, but I caught myself as I was doing it) 😳
I can't blame it on the covid fog.
Any body else sit on their log handling equipment looking at their log piles and not knowing what to saw next. Then spend half an hour moving logs so you can get to the two logs that trip your trigger...then notice that your slab rack is about running over and maybe you should've been cutting it instead..
Well I guess I am due and I don't want others to think I could go so long without messing up. Yesterday I nearly had a disaster. We had an order for 16' x 3" x 24"+ live edge pine slabs. I had a big log on the mill, just about at the lifting cap of the arms. I could not get the chain turner to rotate it without tearing it up, which would mess up the L/E, so I milled it as it sat. I took a slab, 2" flitch, then 3" slab off and set those to the side with the forks. Then I had to flip the log 180° because there was a couple of bumps that would catch the inner blade guide and not allow it to pass. Besides, flipping would allow me to just saw to bed. But the log was still really heavy and the chain turner was still tearing it up, so I used the 2 plane clamp to get under the log, lift it a little and slide it away from the back stops, then I could roll it a little with the chain turner until it hit the backstop stops again and would jam. I had to do this a couple of times and got it rolled to where the top flat was now at about a 45° angle under the log between the bed and the top of the backstops. SO I came in with the clamp to the inside of the flat, lifted it about 2" and THOUGHT I could just drag it away from the backstops and let it slide down onto the bed.
Well, as soon as I touched the log with the clamp, I realized the balance point was way high still and the log rolled right back the wrong way (clockwise) and right off the mill in a very energetic manner. There was nothing in the way to stop it, the chain turner was down and the loading arms were mostly down. The whole mill jumped.
Fortunately, I had the forks positioned to get the next slab and the log landed partly on those and partly on the loading arm tips. I got lucky. It was easy to get it back on and I could see no damage anywhere, but is was a little scary for a few long seconds. Had those forks not caught it, I think the whole mill would have flipped or at least twisted.
Boy, that was a lucky lesson for me.
- no pic but pulled a majicman today. Had a 27 inch 11 foot ash on the lt30 manual today. Sqwing by myself and had a slab I didnt want to carry to the slab rack so cut it into 30 inch long pieces which go in the owb. Went to throw one on the firewood rack not looking what I was doing. went a little too high and my thumb got between the slab and the top of the rack. Lots of blood on the kitchen floor by the time my wife got it patched up.
OUCH !!! Thanks for not posting pictures, Trapper :o
Tom, that does sound scary. These big logs have a lot of potential energy when they are up on a mill. I'm glad your log's energy did not break anything. I need to mill a big white oak today. I have an order for ten full 2x12x8's. I hope I have the logs to get them out of.
Yeah, it happened in a flash and all I remember is the head swaying and that loud hit when the left legs set back down on the concrete. It I didn't have those forks where they were I would still be down there repairing stuff, no doubt, because the load arms were halfway up and that log would have brought them to the ground. As it was, it rocked that toolcat pretty well when it hit. That's a lesson I only need to learn once...... I hope.
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Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevate. Do stoopid things, win stoopid prizes. I should be sawing right now.
Sorry buddy. I use the same therapy for my back issues.
Did you get the number of that truck, or at least get off one good shot before he was out of range?
Kyle, looks like I missed something. Something not so good.
Danny, I feel a little like a wus, considering all of the stuff others have to go through. Yesterday, while sawing, I got phone call to come get some logs. I was moving across an area where a loader with a root rake was working, probably faster and more carelessly than I should have and thought I either caught a cramp or got a snake bite to the calf. I was wearing shorts and chainsaw chaps (last week heat stress nearly was the death of me). After getting home and doing all of the cramp protocol, and after a massage to the calf that almost required an epidural, I decided to go to urgent care this morning. They confirmed, after a sonagram (at least I'm not pregnant), my suspicion that I had torn my calf muscle. The prognosis is 6-8 weeks to recuperate. The seat will likely go onto the mill tomorrow and I'll be looking for someone to roll logs, sticker stack boards and handle slabs. I still have a couple of loads of logs to get and several trees to fell and several orders that need to be filled.
I recently purchased a couple of Husqvarna 572's. Not a dumb move. They seem to be the real deal.
Sometimes dumb stuff happens whether we do it or not. Kyle, I hope it is a quick recovery.
Oh man, I hate when normal actions have negative results. I was getting up off the can one time and my back went out, it was bad. I had to have the wife help me get my pants back on and load me in the car, so I could go to the chiropractor and get straightened out.
I had a close call with the kids yesterday...
I'm building a rock screener out of warehouse racking parts. It's been a long process that I'm taking my sweet, sweet time on, but I'm making progress. The dimensions of the screen are about 10'x10' with racking beams and the wire decks that often sit between beams. The individual parts are not too heavy and are manageable but I've got the whole frame welded together now, so it's four 10ish' beams and six wire decks and it's weight has increased substantially.
My little MIG welder only seems to behave well on one outlet right on the inside of my garage and the cables are short so my reach is just within the garage door. What this means is I've had to spin this whole assembly around a few times and flip it over some as well.
Well, now, it's too heavy and big to flip by hand. I got out the backhoe and had my son hook the chain around the far side, then to the backhoe bucket, so I could reach out, lift the whole thing up, push the bottom in towards the garage and set it down. As he hooked the chain around the beam I'd be lifting he put the hook into the chain link rather than around and I showed him that it needs to go around (but didn't explain why...). As I started lifting I had both kids off to the side, out of the way, but ready to push the screen frame back as I dropped it down. I lifted and had the frame standing straight up, high and heavier than could be controlled other than with the backhoe, but I noticed the chain was through the link again. I tried to reset but the frame was already too far past a good resetting point so I tried to gently ease her down (the kids had already pushed it back to where I wanted while it was hanging). Almost as soon as it touched the ground the chain hook came out of the link and the whole thing crashed to the ground. My daughter was out of the way but my son tried to keep it standing for just long enough that it kind of knocked him over. Luckily, he was also out of the way as he fell because I assume this thing would have at least broken him legs.
So, lesson learned is to find a better way to chain this thing up, I have to flip it at least one more time but probably a few. I have, somewhere, a choker chain that I'm just now realizing would have been a much better option.
On a good note, I'm a very novice welder and my welds all held as the whole thing crashed down onto the concrete!
I have gotten into the habit of using straps and d-rings when I can. especially moving stuff around like that. the chain around the steel slides to easy and throws the balance off.
Yeah, the wife suggested welding some hooks to it and as I was walking into the shop I found a box of weird, beefy, metal hooky things I can use and since I've forgotten what they are really for, nothing will remind me faster than welding a couple to something else... The next time will be much safer.
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... I found a box of weird, beefy, metal hooky things I can use and ......
I love it when you talk all technical and stuff. :D :D :D :D :D
Hahaha! I get mad because there's just this box of these things that I pass every day on the way into the shop. Now, granted, my place is quite cluttered and I tend to buy/find things for projects that either take a back seat or never get done but I usually remember what ideas I had for things. This box I've stared at to never come up with an answer. The other issue is the FIL is cleaning out a warehouse and we've take a couple trips through and he'd point at something and I'd say "yeah, I'll take that" so it's possible that these had no use but looked useful. Again, if they had an intended purpose I'll remember what they were for the second I weld them on something.
To get a bit more technical they look like pegboard loops, like you'd hang on the pegboard and maybe hang a hammer in, or something, they have that kind of offset, but they are at least a 1/4-1/2" thick, so much, much larger than normal pegboard hooks. I'll try to get a picture...
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Those look like they were cutoffs from stackable metal shelving.
Another solution would be to make up an extension cord for the welder. Dad made one up for his welder and it's as handy a pocket on a shirt. It's about 25' long, and made with heavy extension cord type material that I can buy by the ft at the local electrical supply
I agree with the extension cord solution,I made a heavy duty one for my welder and it worked out good.
I have a welder extension cord for the Hobart mig here at home and another for the Lincoln stick at the farm.
I put my welder on a hand cart, 2 wheeler, with what ever corded wire the manual said I could. Gauge and all and maybe 50 feet?
I just unwrap what ever I need.
Pricey!!! :o :o and this was back 20 years ago. But I think I got my money back on it, ;D
As I say, Anything to make it easier and better for me is worth it,
Hmm... I'll have to look into it. I know I tried just a standard, orange yard extension cord and I ended up popping the breaker. What gauge would work for just a small 120v Lincoln Handy-Mig? I assume 10 or 8? Seems easy enough, though the wire is likely 100 bucks now. It would be nice to move the welder instead of the work every time.
I think mine is #10.
Two weeks ago I bought a 100ft extension cord #10 for $86 on ebay. Most prices I saw were $128.
#10 for an extension. Don't make the extension any longer than really necessary. If you've got some #10 romex, that would be fine, just nut as friendly as good stranded cable.
Is your circuit a true 20 amp - 20a breaker with #12 wire?
Both of mine are 10' and 8 gauge that I made up myself. My Hobart 180 is on it's own wheels and the Lincoln tombstone is mounted on a two wheel dolly.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the info!
btulloh- my wife does all the electricity but I'm pretty sure it's a 15 amp breaker. I do have an outlet nearby with 220v wire (is that 12 gauge? I bought it but don't remember, I remember its beefy and yellow) going to it on a legit 20 amp breaker that if I had an extension cord would work well. That was my wife's first suggestion.
I think that welder is 110 only. If it can be setup for 220, that would be an advantage. If you're running it on a 15a breaker, that would explain why the breaker is tripping. It really needs a 20a circuit @110 to be happy.
The existing circuit with the 15a is probably limited to 15a by wiring. If it's #12 wire, it is capable of 20a with a breaker change. Don't change the breaker unless the wiring is sufficient for 20amp though. If that welder can be 110 or 220, you'd be ahead of the game by reconfiguring to 220 and running off your 220 circuit, especially if you want to use an extension cord.
Thanks btulloh!
We initially set that circuit up to be a 220 but then realized after the wiring was in that we didn't really want it, so the wiring is still 220 grade. The welder is definitely a 110 and it only trips the breaker on the outlet I'm currently using (not the one with the 220 wiring) with a normal yard extension cord. The outlet with the 220 wiring is about 15' deeper into the garage. I'm going to look for a beefier extension cord.
I have a Fourney Easy Weld Mig setup. Its not a big welder at all. The manual said it needed a 20amp circuit and it has the special patterned plug. I ran a dedicated #12 circuit and made sure it extended well outside the garage so I could work on things easily. It loops up and hangs on a wood hanger when not in use.
Quote from: aigheadish on June 01, 2022, 01:42:22 PMso the wiring is still 220 grade.
When you say 220 grade wiring, make sure you understand what that means. Wire gauge (thickness of the wire) needed depends on the current draw (Amps), not voltage. So you want a wire gauge rated for the amps of the circuit. The wire, circuit breaker and any receptacles all need to be rated for the amp load.
Voltage being 110 or 220 doesn't drive the wire gauge, but it does affect the number of hot wires. For example, a 110 v, 20 amp circuit requires 12 ga wire and there will typically be 3 wires - a hot, neutral and ground wire. A 220 v, 20 amp circuit also requires 12 ga wire, but there will be two hot wires and a ground and sometimes a neutral wire (not always needed depending on the wiring needs of the appliance you are serving).
You can always use a heavier gauge wire, but don't go lighter. If in doubt call an electrician or ask an electrician friend if you have one.
Thanks NE- I actually have several family members that are electricians, so that's a good call, unfortunately they all live just far enough away that it's not a simple trip up to check things out. They are happy to give advice though.
It's been a few months since I looked at the wiring but I believe it's the latter you mentioned with the 4 wire setup...
Just to be clear - The amperage of a circuit is determined by the breaker (not the outlet or the extension cord). The outlet should be wired with the appropriate gauge wire. You also have to be careful about the length of an extension cord, the longer the cord the larger the gauge should be. Go bigger if you have any doubt or are popping a breaker. If you are popping a ground fault outlet (or breaker) there can be other things at play besides an overload.
QuoteIf you are popping a ground fault outlet (or breaker) there can be other things at play besides an overload.
As I understand it, GFCI has nothing to do with an "overload". Only imbalance between hot and neutral/ground that trips the GFCI circuit breaker.
Don't forget - breakers can go bad as well. I almost replaced my central A/C a few years ago because it was popping the 220 20(?) amp breaker - until I talked to a guy who came out to bid the job and we decided it might be worth trying a new breaker. Replaced it with a breaker of the same amperage and it has worked perfectly ever since.
If your popping your breaker your welds might not be as good as they should due to voltage drop.
We just got a 110/220 Chicom stick welder.
Turns out the garage is a shared 15amp 110 outlet.
Not only was I popping the breaker, but couldn't keep the arc stable at all, running cold.
Built an extension cord to run it off my 220 outlet and boy it sings, had to crank the amperage setting way down.
I can't even imagine the voltage drop on 110 before the breaker would pop, but I'm sure it wasn't pretty.
Note to self. The proper order is to move your finger that's holding the house wrap then swing the slap stapler, not the other way around. The staple missed my index finger, but the stapler did not ::)
Quote from: DWyatt on June 06, 2022, 07:27:45 AM
Note to self. The proper order is to move your finger that's holding the house wrap then swing the slap stapler, not the other way around. The staple missed my index finger, but the stapler did not ::)
OUCH!!!
GAB
Figured out today that my debarker motor was spinning backwards. The blade teeth correctly were pointing towards rear of mill, but motor was spinning towards front of mill. Somehow in experimenting with different rotations i reverted it to the factory configuration but forgot to swap the motor leads. Now it cuts a groove again.
While sawing today i was thinking about making a post on how long does a debarker blade last, and who resharpens them. Then i looked carefully at the spinning blade, and saw it was going the wrong way. No need for that post now.
Not sure this qualifies for this thread, because i actually did something smart today, but instead was doing something dumb for maybe a year or more.
Not sure if this is still needed but my debarker blade lasted about 1125 engine hours and sawed over 200,000 bf. It had one tooth remaining when the WM service team came by on their loop and pointed it out to me. I ordered a new one and replaced it a few days later. The service team told me they were not repairable or able to sharpen.
Did they only replace the 1 tooth Howard? 🤭
Wait, ur in WV, where the toothbrush was invented 😂, of course only one tooth is needed.
JJ
I already covered that question when I posted right after their visit. ;)
@terrifictimbersllc (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11495)
So you are catching up on your 365 days x 2 did something dumb today posts. 8)
Would have been nice of you to say that i am caught up. :D
So I set to work to heat up and dimple the new ripper teeth on to the ripper bars. I took this before picture:
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A little too close! So I slipped it on (look closely at what you can see of the ripper bar), heated it with the oxy/acet torch and used a ball-peen hammer to dimple it. I had to get the metal really hot. I thought red hot would do - nope. Orange - nope. Took straw heat to get a dimple. After I did 5 of the 8, I realized I put them on upside down ::)
On the plus side, I got to test them trying to hammer them off. Had to reheat and beat them off. Sliding them back on, I had to beat them on which meant they wouldn't fall off like the first time trying to dimple them ;) Anyhow, all done.
Bet ya don't do that again anytime soon
Not the world's smartest idea but certainly not my worst either. I had a stopped up fuel line on my little JD so we drained the tank and washed it out good. It is a plastic tank and probably not the original. We let it drain while I got a replacement fuel line and filter and today I was ready to make the repairs. I put line on and new filter in and wanted to be sure to get all the water out so I grabbed a roll of paper towels and rolled several around a stick to mop up any remaining water. All was good till one of the towels broke off in the tank. It took a while but finally I cut another stick, split the end, poked the sopping wet paper and wound it around the stick and was able to pull it out. I finished drying the tank, refueled it and everything is working fine again.
ARRGH! FINALLY I can include my wife in one of these! ;D
So we have friends coming to stay. They are diving an RV with 12' clearance. A few days ago it dawned on me that we have a low RR bridge on the common path to our house and frankly I could not recall the clearance, but it was concern. So I texted my friend and said I would check it out next time I went out that way. Well it was a day or two, but I remembered, in fact I was just 1/2 mile from the bridge and in my head was saying "make note of the clearance, make note of the clearance.....". Of course I never looked at it as I drove under. I also did not make note of it when I drove under 15 minutes later on my way back. We went food shopping and on the way back I told the wife we were taking that route so we could check the clearance, we BOTH missed it. My wife went out the next day and I asked her to check the clearance, she forgot, but I texted her asking if she got it and she said she would get it on the way back. She did not. I went out for fuel again yesterday and missed it twice again. How stupid can two people be?!
Today she was returning a GS to the family pickup and as she left I asked her again if she would check, and she told the GS to also keep an eye out and remember to look. Yup, neither got it. But I texted her when I thought she would be returning and asked. She said they forgot but she would definitely get it on the way home. NOPE, she missed it and went another mile before it dawned on her. At this point it was getting pretty silly, so she turned around and drive back and got the clearance, then turned around again and checked it on the other side just to be sure. I was in fact right to be cautious, it is 11'6" which will clean a fair amount of gear off the top of a 12' RV.
(@aigheadish if you are reading this and laughing (as you SHOULD be), please know that we really are NOT this stupid, just old and slow. I will text you an alternate route, which is actually about 90 seconds faster.)
Seems pretty normal to me 😎
Sounds like you did your own RV trip. (Return Visits).
I did a goodie today. My JD lawn tractor which is 16 years young blew out the oil pan gasket. Its a standard malady on the Briggs & Stratton engines. After removing the engine, I turned it over, removed and replaced the gasket and the crank seal. Upon reassembly and reinstalling it, I found the governor on the engine wasn't working and the engine just ran full throttle.
For those not in the know the throttle does not really control the engine speed. The governor does and also adjusts for loads while driving the tractor to keep the engine rpm constant. The throttle is basically just the max speed the engine will run while being governed.
I tried readjusting the governor to no avail. So I disassembled it again. I found the governor in pieces in the bottom of the crankcase. But I was also missing a piece which I could not find in the engine or on the work bench. I am confused as to where it went, but it was the reason the governor busted because it goes between the governor and the linkage it controls.
So I went and bought the parts I needed plus a new gasket and put it all back together again. I drove it around this evening so everything is good, but I am still looking for that part. I hope I don't get a weird rattling sound in the engine!
Check your pockets :).
Greenhorn: I could see doing that myself- when you drive a routine route, you're on auto pilot so easy to forget to check the sign.
This morning I ran two diesel fuel carry jugs full of 10% ethanol gas. I knew it was the wrong thing within a couple gallons in the first jug because I could see the shadow of the vapors coming out of the jug, but I had prepaid for the gas so I didn't want to have to go in and 'splain to the lady that I had paid for the wrong pump, etc. etc. etc.
The whole diesel thing is a little bit new to me and this station is one of the few in the area that has an off-road diesel pump for self-serve. I pulled up to the wrong pump and had a brain fart.
It was doubly dumb, as the truck needed gas, all I would have needed to do once I figured out what I had done was to stick the nozzle in the truck and let it go, and would only have had a couple gallons to clean out of the one jug.
When I got home, I IMMEDIATELY transferred the gas to correct containers, including the car, the ATV and a 5 gallon mower gas tank.
OGH I'd have done the same thing! Your story is funny though!
I finally unboxed the mandolin slicer I got for Christmas last to slice a red onion for pickled onions. You guessed it, I sliced a finger! All the vids I have watched say be careful! I drew blood even before I had set the darn thing up.
The pickled onions are good, even the wife likes 'em.
Kind of an odd day around here today. It's nearing ten o'clock and I've yet to do anything dumb...
OG, I know my old truckers atlas listed all the truck routes by state, and had a section in the back for listing low bridge heights. Also LowClearanceMap.com can plot a route and type in whatever clearance your vehicle has.
Still up to the driver to use caution approaching any bridge they are unsure of, also watch if it has been repaved recently, as that can change the clearance height.
At least you didn't put the gas in your diesel, while a little might not hurt much 5 gallon might be more than enough to cost a big repair bill.
It has happened to me, yet, but my dad put diesel in his Chevy Suburban gas tank.
We could have siphoned out reviled with gas but he decided to call someone who cleans tanks like that professionally. Think $$$$
I said YET!
Resonator, I checked out that low clearance map and the bridge in question did not even show up on it. I plotted a route right through it and it show all was good. Makes me wonder.
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Happy Father's Day. :)
Yep I slugged her good. Pickup plugged on the baler. Was laying on my side pulling handfuls of grass out of it. Decided well I just as well own this one...What I get for working on Sunday... I did go to church last night...Probably why I didn't break something.
Ill make up for a few of you
I sliced the skin off my finger with a mandolin, be carefull is an understatement
Last weekend do to my lack of preventive maintenace I had to put a drive belt on my mower.
This week I need to get deck belts for it
to top things off, Yesterday I must have found a sharp stob with my tractor.
Coop got the call on this one, new rim and tube was $600 for the other side a couple months ago.
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I didn't do much the rest of the day, I was afraid what else might happen..........
Oh oh Machine builder, now ya got me thinking about my mower drive belt, which I've got, but haven't gotten around to swapping out yet, and the old deck belts on that thing, and the one from engine to rear end, and....
We've been lucky with no clearence issues with the RV so far but that Google maps lady took us on some crazy back road today. We took the front road back and it only added 5 minutes.
I think there are apps that are made for RV users and only send you on safe roads. I don't use one , but I've heard of them.
Yeah, the wife found something but we haven't used it yet either.
I like Allstays Camp and RV
there are a couple low bridges near me that I know are accurate.
It also has a lot of other info that can be useful, the campground database is better than others I've tried
A "what not to do" video about trucks/RV's and a low bridge... :o
The Definitive 11Foot8 Bridge Crash Compilation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw)
That is one tough bridge. Located in Durham NC. Been hit over 200 times.
It took them awhile to rework the area as raising the bridge height affected other nearby railroad crossings. It now stands at 12' 4", but trucks still hit the bridge. SMH.
Pretty sure I've picked up free cokes under that bridge, they were everywhere :D
How many times do I have to brake the $ 500 door on the tractor befor I learn so far its 3
I've gotten 1 myself, got a custom plexi glass one made from a company back East, its been several years ago but it's been good.
I havent thought about that bridge in a while. I have seen trucks hit it when working in that area. There is another one right up the road that got the same abuse. It got a large beam welded just ahead of it last time I was there. Kinda a shame, for both drivers and bridges!! :D
My mistake!! That is the one with the beam.
Coop Tire guy just called me.
$1200, Tire, Rim, Tube, fluid, labor
He said cords are showing inside the tire.
Well, when the little voice tells you that 'you are pushing it!' listen. I was bush hogging near a drain area for a spring and had done this before but had listened to voice I recon. I got too far back near the drainage area.
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Tractor started to sit down on the rears as I was backing toward the drain area. I lifted the bush hog and hit the hydro to move forward. That's when I realized I had not but the tractor in 4-wheel drive. By the time I realized that and put it in 4 WD it was too late and would not pull out. Water was up on the wheels mud was up near the loader/backhoe subframe. Tried to use the grapple to help but no joy. Sorry did not get a picture before getting it out.
I walked back to the barn and got the shovel, chains and RTV. I figured I'd try to dig it out with shovel, if that did not work, I'd remove the bush hog weigh from the back and try removing only the tractor.
Fortunately, after digging mud out from front of all 4 tires and the front of the bush hog I pulled forward 3 or 4 inches. I repeated the process 2 more times and it gripped enough to come out.
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I was relieved to not having to remove the bush hog and pull it out with chain or worse yet not being able to get it out. We had traveled to the Va property in our hybrid car to save fuel. The 4 WD truck was in Charlotte NC about 3 hours away. The area would have been tight to get the truck in anyway as there is a creek just to the front of the tractor. The RTV would have been too light and would have strained a giblet.
All is well that ends well.
Whenever I screw up and get myself in a jam like that, first thing that happens is I overheat and have to take a shirt off or something 🤬.
I have become very proficient at getting my Kubota tractor unstuck when buried in the mud. I have learned driving through the woods that a fresh cut 30" log on the forks will tend to make the front wheels sink in. ;D
In that video you can see they built a frame in front of that bridge that keeps getting hit to prevent RR bridge damage. If they didn't, there would be train wrecks too. :o
You can also get it out like this: LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)
Be very sure where your valve stem is before trying this trick.
Years ago I saw a video of crashes under that Durham bridge put to music.
You will never know what the capabilities of your equipment are unless you push those limits every so often. ::)
I am glad nobody was hurt and no expensive equipment was broken.
Lynn,
Good link! I'll keep that one in mind.
So, fishing in Canada this week as some may know. We bought our licenses on the first day and we each thought we had put them in safe places for the week so they would be handy if a game warden stopped us. I put ours in the glove box of our boat. My friend James put his in the pocket of his tackle box. Fast forward to this morning when get to the border and we were getting passports out. James finds my license in the console of my truck. I thought, that's not possible because I put them I'm the boat. We crossed back into the US without issue, but then were stopped by game agents so they could check our licenses. Of course I had mine right away since they were in the truck instead of the boat. James' and his son were tucked in the tackle box inside covered boat, so we had to uncover the boat. When he finally gets the "licenses" out he discovers what he had put in there was the receipt from the shop that had repaired our boat 2 weeks ago. Immediately I thought I wonder what's in the boat glove box. You guessed it, his license was in my boat glove box all week. We got it all straightened out and the game agent was none the wiser. An hour or so later I remembered I had taken pictures of "my" license so I would have them on the phone. Nope. I had pictures of his and his sons licenses. We laugh about it every time we talk about it.
some folks are easily entertained!!! :D glad you had a good and safe time.
Well, the only thing I can figure is a fat angel sat on the front right corner of the Lull yesterday.
I was backing up in a yard, some slope but not bad, running my mouth and pointing to the next dunnage locations while drifting backwards. I wasn't tilting the frame to level it as it wasn't much slope and I didn't have a load on yet. Uhh, focusing forward while moving backwards... ::)
The downslope rear tire went into a shallow dip and that was all it took. The front right wheel raired up 3 or 4' in the air and the machine started to roll. Frame tilt comes from the front on these old things so hitting that just made it worse. Turning wheels confirmed that wouldn't help. I shot the boom and started sliding the carriage forward. Problem was I had hopped on the Lull cause the loader was down. Now I'm boomed over it, but the crease in the seat is sure relaxing as the cg is improving. At that moment the thinking is "I'll buy you a new loader" :D. The sled crosses the center of gravity and I slam, not quite to the ground, but once I get the boom off the loader it settles down. Mostly paint but I'm heading over to work on the loader in a few. Any landing you walk away from...
Would have made a great video... ;)
Glad just paint and hope no more. still a good story.
I'm going to buy a tractor from my FIL, so I went and rented a truck and trailer from Uhaul. Trailer was 6x12, plenty big. Except for the ramp and opening to the back of the trailer is probably 4.5 feet, which is about 1 foot narrower than the tractor. Like 97 bucks down the drain and now I'm off to drive the tractor home about 15 miles on the back roads. The wife will follow in her car so hopefully we stay out of trouble.
It was debateably dumb but I made it.
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I am somewhat familiar with that trailer design. I think if you had enough momentum going up that ramp you could have gotten it on. ;D You just have to 'want it' enough. :D
Mighty nice looking tractor!
Very nice looking tractor!
Ditto on the nice tractor thing that looks really good.
Nice looking tractor and finish mower. 15 miles is a pretty good distance, did the tires start out as Ag tires? ;D
samandothers- That's very funny!
It did not seem dumb at the time but the results were not what I expected. I took the ATV and 5X8 trailer down to the widow lady's house 2 houses down and cut up a couple of big maple logs into firewood lengths for her that the tree service left. I decided the logs would be too hard to get out, not high quality lumber and I don't have much market for maple.
Anyway I brought back the second load and spotted the TV cable line about 30 yards away. Several weeks ago a poplar top fell on it and our stalwart cable provider just hung a piece of flagging tape on it to warn people it was hanging a little low. I saw a motor home come by earlier today and slow to a crawl but made it under. I figured since they were never going to fix it I'd cut the top out and naturally the cable would lift back up. I cut the top, being careful not to cut the cable, and when I did, the whole dang thing fell down on the road or about a foot high. I had to rush over and get my 8' stepladder and a short piece of rope and pulled it up and tied it off to a young basswood tree there. I probably have it 11-12 ft high at the middle of the road and the flagging is still showing there. Some motorhome may snag it with their A/C or a neighbor with a tractor on a low boy going to cut hay may snag it but I figure I have done my due diligence. If you don't hear from you for a while then you will know why I have no internet/cable services. ::)
*And your honor that's when I decided the grand kids were spending too much time on the computer"... :D
Hope you don't end up in the latest neighbors doing dumb things video on youtube!
Yeah, who would have thought cutting a limb/top off of a utility cable would cause the cable to sag even more? A reasonable person naturally assumes when you cut the weight off, it will rise back up closer to where it used to be. ???
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on July 17, 2022, 12:03:42 PM
Yeah, who would have thought cutting a limb/top off of a utility cable would cause the cable to sag even more? A reasonable person naturally assumes when you cut the weight off, it will rise back up closer to where it used to be. ???
That was before the CATV started using poplars to hold up their cables.
Just wondering....
Has anyone ever started a thread with the subject, "Did something smart today"
I've been considering starting one but I'm struggling to come up with the first post.
Smart ???
fluid, all the other threads are the "did something smart"... :o :)
FPP, I had thought the exact same thought about a month ago, but try as I might, I could not come up with an opening post either. At that point I realized it was just another dumb idea of mine, which brought me right back here. :D
Truthfully though, I came to realize that this is a pretty humble group that doesn't tend toward bragging. When most folks come up with a smart idea, fix, or creation, they just call it the 'right' way. Usually when I do something others might consider 'smart' I just figure that I got lucky.
I like the way Doc phrased it. Fact is, most threads are '...did (or 'doing') something' threads and we only have one for the dumb stuff, so that's not a bad ratio. ;D :D
In a similar vein, I have wondered about a new thread similar to the Useful Sawmill Mods that would be titled Useless Sawmill Mods, but I figured there would be no use in reading it :D.
I was so busy at work that I went several weeks and no sawing. the temps have been around a hundred here as well. "Not sawin nothing" thread. :)
It was yesterday, not today, but it was still dumb.
My log splitter has been down in the shed since we finished up our wood back in March. I'm building a second one, so I have been going down there regularly over the last few weeks with a flashlight and tape measure (and @#@# reading glasses) taking measurements and making notes, as I was either a lot smarter 5 years ago when I made this one, or I have a lousy memory.
Yesterday, my wife agreed to help out a neighbour who had a large poplar come down, so we headed over there with the saw and trailer and cleaned it up for her, then dragged the blocks home. Poplar is not good firewood, but it burns and we have a wood fired pool heater that is insatiable, so we decided to split it and stack it in a separate pile.
I hooked the gator up to the splitter and dragged it over to the splitting area, and set everything up nicely, with the trailer load of blocks on one side and some pallets handy to stack the splits on. Because it had been a few months since it ran, I checked the hydraulic fluid levels, fuel tank and even checked the oil. Tossed a nice straight block into the trough and fired it up. Waited a minute to warm up, then split the block. Flipped the lever to retract, AND THE PUSHER DID NOT RETRACT. Instead, the cylinder retracted towards the pusher. Took a second to figure out what was going on and slap the lever into neutral. While I had been doing my measurements, I had removed the cylinder anchor pin and left it out. DOH!!. I was millimeters from having 15+ tons of force rip the hydraulic lines out.
Fortunately the only thing damaged was my ego, but another millisecond or two and it would have been messy. The hydraulic line to the cylinder base was stretched tight around the anchor post.
now that is a good one. glad you got it stopped. I have hooked up my grapple bucket to hydraulics and not the quick attach. first dump, off goes the bucket and although they tried, the ends on the hydraulic hoses could not stop and suspend that heavy bucket mid air. :o :) lets assume I have only done it once and learned a valuable lesson.
Yikes...... I sorta did the same thing yesterday. I undid the quick attach on my grapple bucket. Saw a squirrel or something, hopped on the tractor started to move it.... By the Grace I saw movement where it shouldn't be and I quick realized undoing the hydraulic hoses before you move is important ::)...my brain had moved on to the the pallet fork attaching which was happening next. ::)
Then half an hour later the front tire got tired and the tube let go. Held air well enough to move it to where the tire truck can get to it. I said to myself a couple weeks ago those front tires need to go this fall. Guess it's happening now if we can get them found which will be the next obstacle.
A "did something smart today" thread would likely be useless to a lot of folks. People think they are so clever. :o What passes for smart for one person is Captain Obvious or experience for another. Common sense, it occurred to me and really smart are subjective and differ from person to person. "Hey, I did something smart today. I remembered to bring the first aid kit for when I do something dumb." Smart or experience? Ask three finger Wally.
Lack of sensibility, mistakes, oopsies and dumb however, are all pretty much covered by dumb. Its just a matter of degrees.
I consider just being on the Forestry Forum as doing one thing smart. ;D
Just want to make sure everyone realizes my initial post was a joke....
Did something smart....can't come up with what to post.... :D
you are good fluid! We got it Fluid! we are all joking as well and piling on. note all the smiley and laughing emojis! :D :D :D
Thats good. Was a little worried...
Although it is in the something dumb thread, didnt want anyone to think it should have been in the someone dumb thread. :D
My humor is sometimes not so obvious. I guess I was trying to be too clever. Chalk it up to experience! ;D
When they want to those hydraulic hoses will be a lot stronger than one could possibly imagine. Had a baler fire last year and after trying to put it out in vain - right as I opened the chute to dump the bale the wind picked up 30 MPH - even the FD guys who showed up asked where the wind came from. Anyway, so I tried to put it out until that wasn't in the cards, then I decided to save the tractor, pulled the hitch pin and drove off as the flames were licking the cab of the tractor. Baler hitch falls and digs into the ground, the PTO comes apart as planned, but the hydraulic quick connect will not let go. Now I am dragging an 8,000 lb baler with its hitch plowing 6" into the soil by two 1/2" well aged hydraulic hoses and the flames are getting larger. I jumped out, tried to pull them from the quick connect to no avail and decided that 300 HP and high gear will identify the weakest link, so I jumped back into the cab, put her into a high gear, full throttle, and dumped the clutch, both front wheels came off the ground by a couple of inches and the baler stayed put, the quick connects let go. I ended up cutting the fittings off the BBQ hose remains when things cooled down, but yea, those hoses held on tight.
Quote from: rusticretreater on July 18, 2022, 03:58:30 PM
My humor is sometimes not so obvious. I guess I was trying to be too clever. Chalk it up to experience! ;D
Yea, I'm the same way. The danger is that I assume everyone else is also and then learn the hard way.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 18, 2022, 11:28:55 AMlets assume I have only done it once and learned a valuable lesson.
One of the nice things about the lull is being able to chain a big work platform to the forks, load up with tools and siding and head for the sky. When done drop off the gear and dump the trash in the dumpster. Safety is always important for one's workmates but it really sucks when one dumps the trash AND the work basket down into the bottom of a dumpster. I hate it when I'm "one" :D
You know Don, they make safety chains for those, right? ;D
Speaking for myself, I've learned a lot of good lessons in life but very few by doing something smart!! smiley_jester
Remember, although you will kick yourself at the time, if no serious injuries or damage occurs take time later to laugh about it and don't forget the lesson.
Todays lesson, take the truck all the way to the bottom of the hill to load, it seemed flat enough ::).
About the time I got on the deck with the bobcat it decided to slide and I really didn't want to be on that ride anymore. I was leaving the rear as the front was leaving the road, too close!
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The back wheels on the truck got a little light did they?
A guy around here did that, it all ended up in a pile at the end of his driveway along with his other vehicles! (down hill towards his house)
That's gonna leave a mark. Hopefully the damage was not too bad.
Wow Don! You definitely had some excitement!! Glad you didn't get hurt
Oh Dang, that stinks! We did that a couple weeks ago loading a D3. Fortunately it was a gooseneck trailer and the guy on the cat got off the trailer when the truck was 90°to the trailer. Other that some dirty shorts and some divots in the driveway, it was no harm no foul.
I had time to run all the way to the front of the deck trying to plant the tires but .. the mass was in motion.
I barely left a mark on the tree that caught the grill, hood, fender, bumper, inner subframe, wheel liner, radiator and all the bits. It looks like it stopped there. When I get the front off the engine I can turn it over and see if it throws the belt but it looks ok. Hard to say, definitely a total but at replacement costs I'm looking for a front clip tonite.
Man, that could have been a lot more uglier than it was, really glad you are OK. Hope the truck and trailer are the same.
This reminds of something really stupid I did last week but did not have time to record here. I was getting ready for the festival and needed to get my Mule up on the trailer, but the trailer was unhitched. I have done this a few times. I put jack stands under the back edge of the trailer and whne I drive up, they carry the weight shift. Except this time. When I drove up, the trailer pushed forward ad the back end dropped and the jack stands were at a 60° angle to the ground, I mad the mistake of stopping when I saw the shift. SO there I am, halfway up with the jackstands ready to fall over and the front wheel of the trailer off the ground. I wound up letting it roll back slowly as I prayed, reset the jack stands, but this time raised up the trailer tongue so that all the weight was on the jack stands and I pulled it off. I felt really stupid perched up there in a state of limbo not knowing which way to go.
We lost a good member several years back when he had a similar move. Winching a log onto his trailer hitched to his Suburban. The log weight on the rear lifted the rear Suburban wheels (that were braked and in Park) and the whole rig slid down a street with our member getting caught under and dragged along. Ugly.
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On another "dumb" move, just reported a fire dept. in a WI community being called to a garage fire. Apparent cause of the fire was a guy trying to use his shop vac to siphon gas out of a container. Maybe thought the suction would start the siphon flowing..?? But suspect the gas fumes were ignited by an arc/spark in the motor on the shop vac and thus started the fire. Lost the garage, but saved the house.
Oh man thats terrible about our lost member. Could happen to any of us.
Public Service Announcement...shop vacs are not intrinsically safe.
It hurts being reminded of Mark, he was a great guy. I recently tried to help a guy loading a skid steer on a bumper pull behind a 1/2 ton, he panicked when the nose of the trailer and the rear of the truck rose. I suggested he stack blocking under the trailer leaving enough room to allow the springs to settle. Of course he had to overdo it and jammed the blocks under the corners of the deck. Loading went well but now he couldn't pull away. He cursed me so I just got in my truck and left, we can't fix stupid even with duct tape.
Hey sawguy, I think that goes in the ever elusive "I did something smart today" thread. :)
Yeah, we are dealing with physics and as a friend of mine says "Physics is a b*tch."
The dent in the side of my truck reminds me of when my parking brake didn't hold and while the truck was in gear(engine off), the landscaping trailer pulled it slowly down a hill and jackknifed at the same time.
When I was starting to plan my log arch for my trailer I noticed the jackstands in the vids of the guys who knew what they were doing. I have them at all four corners. I also use tire chocks on the truck and trailer. Did you ever notice the first thing the firemen do when they arrive on the scene in their trucks? One of them immediately chocks the wheels. I try to do that as soon as I get the trailer in position.
I like to put my truck in 4wd before I do any loading or unloading of the trailer. that way all 4 tires are locked instead of just the rear like when you put it in park or set the parking brake.
and wheel chocks are great and should always be used on the trailer at least but if on the truck put them on the front tires that won't lift off the ground :)
I had a time once I was screwing around when I got to camp, everyone had already left to go wheeling so I put one tire up onto the back of my buddies trailer. The tongue of the trailer lifted straight up and almost hit the truck. glad he had the tires chocked. The scariest thing was the hitch was the way it was when he brought his bronco to the wheeling area. He should have lost it on the road but somehow got really lucky.
I could tell lots of stories about firetrucks that were not chocked and the consequences of that. Of course those stories usually go hand in hand with forgetting to set the air brake. Yesterday I was at a call that the ladder truck responded to and had to park on a steep hill. They will often have a guy get off to place a chock before the driver takes his foot off the brake just in case the brake doesnt hold. That only happens with brakes that need adjustment and hot brakes. It was hot yesterday and they had to travel pretty far on curvy roads. The truck rolled onto the first chock, so they set 2 more chocks to be safe. The ladder carries 4 chocks because the front axle has to have chocks front and back of each side when the ladder is deployed.
I always use jack stands at the rear corners of my trailer while loading. Even if the trailer sits down on them, its easy to pull away and the stands will tip over.
my goose neck has ramps that are triangular and when flipped up create a flat area on top of the dovetail. the last 5 feet of my 32 foot trailer. so when down behind the trailer for loading, the bottom is only a few inches off the ground. so it does not let the ramps push down on the back of the trailer. they are also self stowing, if you forget and drive off the will flip up. makes a big bang. guess how I know that!
If you look at those ramps they do have "feet" and the truck was in 4 low... take it to the bottom of the hill. It's an E ticket ride :).
As I was perusing the local online junkyard offerings, those parts trucks look better than mine, here's your sign :D
Not me but a friend of mine was holding a board while another kid nailed it. As they say, "even the best laid plans got to pot every now and then "
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"Nailed it!"
I bet Doc has seen that in the ER a few times.
*DanG, I hate it when that happens!
Oww, that is not a good place, is everything ok?
He said it missed the bone, he had his dad pull it out after the photo shoot of course. I haven't heard any updates yet.
Doc, will I ever play the piano again?
Tell your friend that counts for two. Getting shot is one thing, pulling it out without an x-ray is the more dumber second thing and could cause more damage than the original penetration. Coated nails add to the problem.
How could he pose long enough for a pic??
Sounds like he's back to work, said it's a little sore, but getting better
I bet he doesn't hold boards for that guy anymore!! :D
That reminds me of something I did dumb quite a few years ago. The first year the wife and I were together I had her helping me build a chicken coup. One of the rafters had a twist so I held it in place and asked her to nail it for me. You guessed it, the gun bounced and fired a second time which proceeded to nail two of my fingers together. She flipped out and was getting ready to head to the ER while I was pulling out my phone to take a picture. She wasn't too happy when I grabbed a pair of pliers and pulled it out myself, what could go wrong I had a nurse on site after all (she's a nurse). Still one of my boys favorite stories to tell even 10+ years later.....I need to see if I can still find that picture....And yeah, I'd still hold the board for her, but she won't touch a nail gun :D
They use staples in place of stitches sometimes. Why not nails?😮
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Doc, will I ever play the piano again?
No, it goes like "Doc, will I still be able to be a concert pianist?" - "Yes, says the doc". "That'd be great since I can't play now." ;)
looks to be only an 8 penny. it can always be worse. it looked lie it hit the joint, but if not, that is great. we would do an x-ray cause we are the ED and after you see us, we become responsible for much of what could go wrong. i have seen several with a board on the point side of the nail. usually the crew cuts a 2 foot section out of the stud wall and it comes with. Nothing really magic about the ED (cause then it would be free) except we have drugs. most carpenter woodworkers, just want it done so they can go back to work. a puncture wound is much more likely to get infect cause it puts inoculum deem int the tissue that quickly heals over. Dogs are bad bite but big canines. Cat bites are worse due to the pin prick size of their canine teeth. the worse animal bite from an infection point of view is human. We often have to borrow tools from maintenance to pull out nails from the board, or cut it if there is room. and yes, the patient in the joke usually says, "good I always wanted to play the piano".
If you choose to deal with it at home, mix Lidocaine with the LA-200 for infection prevention. If you have the second one in your fridge you will have the first, trust me you don't want the LA straight. :-X
Yes it burns a bit.... :)
Years ago I worked in an rv plant. The guys on the line had disabled the safety on the nail guns until one spiked his foot to the floor. As I recall the EMT cut the nail under his foot and had it removed at the hospital. I lost a finger tip to a table saw on that job but that's another story.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 24, 2022, 01:42:59 PMthe worse animal bite from an infection point of view is human.
A little over 30 years ago, while I was interning at a nearby middle school, I was bitten on the forearm while breaking up a fight. They insisted that I go see a doctor and get a tetanus shot since the bite broke the skin. I'll give him credit for his tenacity and persistence, he bit down for a good while.
Now for the rest of the story (Paul Harvey). I had the little fellow wrapped up when the large (6'3"), strong, black assistant principal arrived at the scene. I offered to take the student wherever they wanted him to go, which I assumed was an office. The AP asked me to release the student. I suggested that he ensure he had a firm grip on him and again, told him that I would take the student. After three times, I released the student to the AP. The AP had him for about a half a second until he pulled free and ran away. As he was running away and entering the school, he knocked down a female teacher and broke her arm.
But wait, there's more. The student's parents accused me of abusing their kid and I was subpoenaed to show up to court during the summer. They never showed up and nothing became of it. The following year, I was teaching at the Polk Juvenile Detention Center. One day, this cocky, long-haired blonde kid walked into class with the rest of the juvenile felons awaiting their day in court. It was him. When he recognized me, he sat down without saying a word and continued to do so for the remainder of his time there. He was briefly in my class a few years later when I was teaching in a high school. I suspected he turned out okay, but then decided to do a county jail search before hitting post. He has been arrested 30 times in Polk County for a variety of offenses ranging from kidnapping, assault, drug trafficking, hit and run with death or bodily injury and a host of others. I assume some of the long breaks between arrests he may have been staying in Raiford.
I have heard and read that gator bites are bad about getting infected due to the rotten meat that they eat and the multiple punctures left by their teeth.
A couple days ago I was getting my camper ready to take to Branson MO for a week. At one point I was gonna unplug the shore line and put it in the truck, but then realized I needed to wait til I put the slides in first. Fast forward an hour or so and I put the slides in and then decided to pull the camper out of the carport so I could load bicycles on it. My son was watching me pull out and I could see in the mirror that something caught his attention. Well, remember that shore line that I hadn't unplugged yet? Sure enough I ripped it out of the shed where it plugs in. Luckily it only broke the little plastic cover plate in the box where it plugs in. Didn't hurt the cord or the camper, which were my biggest concerns. I will fix that when I get back. For the mean time I turned off the breaker that feeds the 50a receptacle.
@caveman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12883) I used to love to listen to Paul Harvey. "Good day"
One of our ambulance drivers was notorious for grabbing the ambulance for a call and not pulling the landline out I one time pulled into a call and as I walked up the driveway I picked up and coiled the cord and handed it to her. ;D (This was before the autoeject sockets.) I fixed a lot of wall outlets in the bay because of her and bought the sockets for the rig 3 at a time..
Once we got a new rig with autoeject we learned they didn't work EVERY time. Those were expensive to repair/replace.
This is still better than the engine driver that grabbed a truck for a working fire but didn't unplug the airline keeping the brakes up. He got a half mile down the road until the compressor he was dragging finally snapped off the airline and the brake locked up when the system was out of air from the open leak. So there he was, stuck with a big working fire and all he could do was listen on the radio. :D ;D
the difference between a rookie and a seasoned veteran.
Seasoned veterans wake up when the tones go off, go take a leak then head to the call.
Rookies are always looking for a quiet corner to relieve themselves.
does that little extra time it takes to be effective really change the outcome that much? the answer NO!!!!!
Just like I tell all my racing buddies that say they need to drive faster. I say you can't win if you don't finish. Take a little more time to get there in one piece.
Tom, I can't count the number of times we have pullled out of the bays and the auto-eject didn't eject. I have replaced countless cord ends. We have short pig tails plugged in between the long cord hanging from the ceiling and the truck, but even that doesn't always help. We have never kept air hoses connected to out trucks. We have jockey pumps on all of our trucks to make sure the air is always sufficient to release the brakes.
I often will take a leak before going to my truck. I kind of judge the nature of the call and how much I need to go at the time to decide.
The short cord idea is a great one, and if I was still in the service I would start making them up tomorrow. It didn't take long for me to get into the 'take a leak first' frame of mind. I expanded that to include drinking a bottle of water on my way to the station for those wee hours calls. It helped clear my mind. Getting there safe was always more important than getting there fast. I had that conversation with so many probies I could do it in my sleep, and often did. ;D The irony always struck me that the probie can't do much when he/she does get there without an experienced member to work with, so what is their rush? When I was an engine captain and responded to my smaller local house for the engine, I always pulled the cord and hose, but that cord hung from a recoil thing on the ceiling and it would hang low enough that it could get caught on the handrail around the hose deck. Twice I was fixing that dang recoil thing at 3 or 4am so I could get back in bed before work.
I spent 10 years of the FD. Part of our training was to unplug the truck. ::)
we always had members that insisted on getting their really fast. I cannot tell you how many times I pulled in jumped out of my car to get in the truck and the truck drove off as I was grabbing my gear running towards it.
I was one of only 8 smokedivers and they left me like that more times than I could count.
Every organization has members whose brain works slower than their bodies. Hopefully it can be trained out of them before disciplinary methods are required. I di have to go all the way once and lead the dismissal of one member who refused to get it. He left us no choice. One volunteer doing stupid stuff reflects on the entire service and we can't have that.
We still have an assistant chief that acts like a 16 year old going to his first fire, still, after 20 years. He was one of the deciding factors for my retirement. He put me in a bad spot because he wasn't doing his job. Still hasn't changed much from what I hear on the radio.
Years ago, before we had a dedicated rescue truck, we kept our swiftwater gear packed up by size with a complete kit in each gear bag. When dispatched for those calls we would have to grab the gear from the ready room and throw them on the unit we were taking. SO the first arriving members at the station needed to do that. We had a 30 minute response time to most of those calls anyway, which made us 3rd due out of the 4 departments with swiftwater teams. Many was the time I would arrive at the station and see several members already in the truck waving for me to hurry up. As I'd climb in the truck and ask if they grabbed the gear, they all realized nobody had gotten it on the truck. When you get excited and stop thinking, that's when things go wrong. Chief Billy Goldfedder calls it "NTS" (Non thinking syndrome) and has a whole class on it with case studies.
Billy Goldfeder - And the Beat Goes On - Fire Training - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzh4SZrPetQ)
By the way, the full version of that speech is available on a DVD and makes a great training film for any department. I bought a copy for myself, but I think I donated it to the department. I met the Chief once or twice when he came around to run seminars. A smart guy. He even complimented the moustache I had at that time. Given his broom, I think I actually blushed.
Hello, my name is Tom, and I did something dumb today.
[group]: "Hi Tom"
So it was gonna be hot today and I really did not want to mill, but there is this rush order (apparently a miscalculation on somebody else's part does create an emergency on my part, who knew?). So I went down to start early (hang the neighbors) and get at least half of it done. I started at 8, Bill and Mike were already an hour into doing other work. I knocked out the 2x6's first, as they needed that first, all 10'. Lousy log (we are trying to use up and clear out junk) and I spent more time on it than I should have to get exactly the yield I needed from one log. I was pretty proud of myself on that one, for a junk log. Then I needed to cut 50 4/4 boards. Another junk log. I managed to get a 12" x something cant which I could then spit into two 6" cants and get a good yield out of 'junk'. I was tickled and got 18 1x6's out of that crappy log, pretty good, I was getting cocky. But as I put the last one on the stack, I had a thought. So I checked my cut list. I was supposed to be cutting 1 x8's, not 6's. ARRRRGGGGHHHH!
With the next two logs i got 28 1x8's and was out of logs on the deck and about out of sweat too. I marked the next logs to stage and called it a day, very disappointed in myself and the time I wasted. The log, eh, it was junk anyway, but fuel and blades, plus my lost time, right? Who said education was cheap? And I already thought I learned this lesson a while ago. Guess I needed a refresher class. :D Now I need to find something to make that needs 1x6's. ;D
That's more of a mistake than something dumb. But who am I to judge?
Well, I'm not one to argue but 'mistake' sounds like something you can blame on somebody else. No this one was completely on me, and I called myself some pretty terrible things. :D I deserved it. "Did something incredibly stupid" is more accurate. ;D
Any boss that I have ever worked for knows that they needn't chastise me for such transgressions, I do it to myself much faster and to greater depth than they ever could. One manager I worked for told me that if I treated the guys under me the way I treated myself, they would all quit. ;D
Just tell Bill that crappy log would not make 1X8s but look at the purdy stack of 1X6s you salvaged from it. ;)
at least you checked before delivering!!!
Another option is to smudge the cut list where the 1x8s are listed and tell Bill you could not read it at first and next time he better be sure to give you a clean, legible cut list to work from because you aren't going to put up with that any more! ;D
Well you get pints for creativity, but my cut list is in a spreadsheet on my phone. He texts me the list and I put it in the spread sheet to get it in the queue.
Nobody to blame but me, doing otherwise would be a waste of energy and time. Just suck it up, take the hit, and move on. I wear big boy pants these days. ;D
Obviously Howard is good at obfuscation.
Danny, you are very perspicacious. :)
Yes, often I read his posts and think I am in the prescience of greatness. OK, well, sometimes...Actually once...I think.
Me? I prefer the direct method. 'I screwed up, let's move on.'
That is admirable, Tom. I know many people where getting them to admit guilt is like trying to pine the tail on the donkey while blindfolded and drunk on scuppernong wine that has not aged too long :).
So I think what your saying is 'some folks have trouble admitting they made a mistake.' did I get that right? For a southerner y'all sure tawk too pretty sometimes. :D
Shore nuff.
OG:
Saw your mistakes in half and call them batens, or saw them in thirds or fourths and call them tomato stakes.
On to the next chance to make another ^+%#!*.
Have a great day.
GAB
I guess my dumb thing actually happened about 11 days ago. We got home from vacation yesterday and this morning I needed the keys to our extra car to take my son to soccer practice. They were not hanging where they should. My first thought was that I might have left them in the car 11 days ago when I was getting the camper ready to go for vacation. Sure enough, there they were sitting on the seat of the car. Luckily we live way back in the woods and nobody comes back here unless they were invited.
And so often we have the garage door remote in the car, making it easy for someone to enter by just using the remote. Too easy for those who want to do bad things.
Glad you didn't have a problem. Living back off a main road has advantages, but also if someone wants to load up without being seen, such "off the road" isn't so good.
All true. At least my garage is detached and they couldn't get in the house. The bad thing is that my shop is attached to the garage and there is probably $50,000 of tools in there.
Okay, my turn. Sunday, I took the boat out to go fishing with the wife. I had finished mounting my downrigger and wanted to try it out. We get to the lake, launch the boat and away we go. Once out there, I get my rod ready and then turn to setup the downrigger......At this point I realize my cannonball is sitting on the floor of my shop at home. So no blood or broken parts but some cursing at myself. After that we had a good time just taking a cruise around the lake, which we hadn't been on before, stopping to see if there were fish around for next time. Yes the downrigger was necessary because when it comes to fishing I'm a bit of a snob, I only fish for trout or walleye and the trout in this lake were holding between 80-120 feet.
I hope you are not finding many Walleyes in the Bangor area.....
Ran my pintle hitch through the wood chipper the other day - I'll never forget that sound. Forgot that I had stored the hitch in the intake chute before I ran a branch through. Totally destroyed the knives, the hitch and beat up the drum pretty bad. An expensive and stupid mistake!
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Yup, that's an instant reminder of not remembering to not forgetting about. .
Hope the drum\bearings are repairable.
While you fixing it install a storage mount or box for the hitch.....one would hate to see an encore.
Nah, he will only do that once.
Stan, sorry that happened to you. Glad no body got hurt . Those blades are toast. The pintle might make a good door stop or maybe you could give it to K-guy as a spare weight for his down rigger? ;D :D
Sorry, too soon?
Thanks OG
To quote Maude " God will get you for that!" smiley_jester
That had to be Togue at that depth K-Guy no?
Well that certainly rivals anything I have done...recently.
Quote from: Southside on August 17, 2022, 12:38:40 AMThat had to be Togue at that depth K-Guy no?
Salmon or Cusk (freshwater cod) are possibilities also. I was at Schoodic Lake.
So I have this particular affliction. I really like trees... they grow, I like them, then I enjoy cutting them apart in various ways using different machines. I did some thinking about how this started..... I remember watching my dad running his Delta radial arm saw for a few projects when I was little, also his blue cased Homelite saw. The radial arm saw is sitting in my basement waiting for its shop to be built. Dad's old firewood saw was my first chainsaw. I did 4-H woodworking in jr high, (had to be 12 before you could because of sharp things and power tools).
So I could go on about the progression of this affliction, but it seems that incrementally it morphs into bigger more complex forms. All of these have pitfals and new hazards one encounters. This is an example..
In July I bought Alan Gage's B 16 timberking,
it's a step up from the Ez Boardwalk Jr.
The hydraulics are nice and some things take some getting used to. The stops are separate from the log clamp. It's driven hydraulically on an acme rod and the clamping height is manually adjusted. It doesn't move up and down with the stops like an Ez Boardwalk. So far I've sawn a short whack ERC logs with it and am just getting used to it..
So last night being really careful to keep the stops adjusted sighting down the carriage. I forgot to check the clamp. I was clear on the last cut on a cant I was turning into 2 x 4 lumber. So merrily I sawed away. I heard the magic whining whirring of metal on metal. So the automatic swearing kicked in and I instinctively I jerked back on the hydraulic level controlling the drive. Of course when you do that in a cut you hear the loud sproink/ pop/ clatter noises that occur when you knock a band off of the wheels. The reason being is on an old Timbeking b-16/20 the carriage return speed is full blast. So last night I made a minor mark on the
clamp wrecked a blade and blew 15 minutes wiggling, fishing, and replacing the wrecked blade out of the cut. The only part that bothers me is I was the first person to do that on this mill. Alan somehow manged to not scratch it once before I got it.... He told me, I looked. ::)
I have to say, that actually pretty impressive how much damage was done to the hitch! Sorry for the expensive oops, glad nobody was injured.
Okay, my turn in the barrel (Again).
I have an order for 1100 square feet of 2/4 X 8" white pine so today after I got my brand new, totally foamed ($285 worth front tire back on I went up in my Norway Spruce patch to cut a big (24" on the stump) pine. I notched it where I wanted it to go then plunge cut nearly through and soundly pinched my Stihl 441 saw with a good 20" of the 24" bar in the wood. No way to wedge it free so I put a cable and snatch block on and pulled with my JD 750 but could not get it free so I took the saw off and left the bar in the stump. Looking up it was obvious I had badly misread the lean. I got my wife's little Stihl EZ start 180 with a 16" bar and started feathering a cut on the back side. After a couple of inches I heard a popping and the tree fell exactly where I had wanted. If that cable to the snatch block had been 3' longer or the tree had been 3' shorter, it never would have reached that light on the back of the tractor. ::)
Then to make matters worse I decided it was not a white pine but a big spruce. smiley_huh smiley_headscratch smiley_furious .Fortunately during clean up I found some other spruce tips it had taken down and found it was a white pine. smiley_sweat_drop smiley_clapping
SMH, Howard, Howard, Howard. ;D
Oh, we all have our days. ::)
Went to check the front axle oil in my Kubota tractor. Figured I could just loosen the lower plug and not the top fill cap bolt to see if any dripped out. Didn't drip, instead it spit out under pressure. :o
Ever smelled old gear lube? Kind of stays with you when you gets it on you. :-X
that means the seals are good :)
And I don't know what SMH stands for? (I'm not real sure I want to know but...)
Could it mean you should wear an orange triangle?🔺
Question. How does checking it at the bottom tell you if it is at the full level at the top? SMH to get the gear oil off of it. Yes, I know. I am a real smartazz.
SMH= Shake My Head
The bolt on the top of the axle is the fill plug, the lower bolt on the side is the oil level plug. If you filled it to the very top on top of the axle you would have problems.
Quote from: Resonator on August 23, 2022, 08:59:57 PM
Oh, we all have our days. ::)
Went to check the front axle oil in my Kubota tractor. Figured I could just loosen the lower plug and not the top fill cap bolt to see if any dripped out. Didn't drip, instead it spit out under pressure. :o
Ever smelled old gear lube? Kind of stays with you when you gets it on you. :-X
Front axle should be vented, or the oil will warm up and push out the seals. Evidence is the "spit" under pressure.
Ah, I was thinking the drain plug. My small Kubota is likely different. I have four wheel drive with a breather plug and a drain plug on both hubs plus a dipstick.
Here we go again.....more 'haste makes waste' kind of mistakes for me. Working alone as usual and built a makeshift platform to get my new 10HP dust collector motor up 15' in the air for installation.....and you can guess what happened. Of all the parts to destroy - of course the fan, which is long obsolete on this 'Air Sentry' unit, who has been out of business for 20+ years.
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That's unfortunate but I don't think that blade is propreitary just to that DC. In industrial environments, they're like legos, pick one that fits. You'll probably be looking at one with a hub accepting a QD or taperlock bushing to accept different shaft sizes. As an added benefit they're still easy to disassemble with years of rust & crude built up on all the interfacing parts.
That sucks stanmillnc, is it safe to assume the lesson to be learned is strap it down regardless of the shortness of trip on its way up? Is that the fan sitting on top of the pallet in the picture?
I donno, it looks like aluminum to me. A little banging with some wood block backers and maybe a couple new pop rivets and good to go. :-\
We had the exact same thing happen at one of the school shop's during install of a dust collection system. Our Autobody teacher had it back in shape in about 90 minutes.
Well, I guess it's my turn in the hole again and I am coming in strong here with a classic. I finally broke the cherry on this one.
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I had hoped I could avoid this one, because as you can see I am literally up up against a rock cliff on the left side of the mill, no room for equipment to get in there. This was a short log and it went between the hydraulic backstops. I forgot to flip up the manual stops. Actually, in my (feeble) defense, this is the first time I had needed those manual stops on this mill.
Oh well, got that over with, let's move on.
Tom,
I'm sure glad I've never done anything like that. ::) ::) At least not without a big audience watching.
Actually it looks to me like you can hook a chain to the end of the log sticking up up and hook the other end to the end of the lifting arm, lower the arm and pull it right back up on the bed of the mill. Be sure to start with the arm lifted to max height to give you more pulling room. You might need to put a sacrificial board down on the mill to protect the edge of it.
Another trick I learned with short logs is I carry 2-6' long 1/4" chains with hooks on each end. If I have a log shorter than the arms (>5' ) I hook the chains across the arms and make a sling to lift the short logs which are usually pretty fat. (If they weren't big diameter we could just lift them by hand.)
Yeah, after I was done laughing I just grabbed the end and flipped it up by hand. Gotta make boards, move on. These are off cuts from the longer logs, and I need some 4, 5, 6' studs and such for this build, so it's a way to use up the logs. Tales a bit longer with the manual stops, but I am getting the most out of the logs and getting the yard opened up a tiny bit with each log I clear out. I'm just being frugal or cheap, You choose. :D
I was more alarmed seeing that side of the sawmill clogged up with sawdust, etc. :o
Lynn,
I think Tom does that so logs can't roll off the other side. It seems to be working. :D
Geez Lynn, Now you are sounding like Howard. Everybody is a critic. Actually we keep that sawdust there just in case this happens so the log gets a soft landing. :D
Truthfully, that is a problem, every few months we shovel the sawdust into bags and sell it to chicken farms. We are slowly working on an automated plan to handle and have collected the blower motor and some other stuff we need. Probably in the spring, but I can't move that wall, it's a 35' tall solid rock face. We don't have a lot of open spaces here and we work between the rocks. Also, keep in mind I am just working there half days when I work and I am alone, I fetch logs, buck them, mill them, stack and track them. I also have to clean up the slabs and drive them up to the OWB at the end of each 'shift'. So I have enough to do and every few months one of Bill's guy's need a task to finish out his hours for the week and he gets sent to bag sawdust.
What it comes down to is that it's better to have me making lumber than shoveling sawdust. Not ideal, but it works for now.
Yeah see now, You got Howard going again. Geez, youze guyz!
Seems a simple dragline system could drag that sawdust to one end or the other. Short flights on farm conveyor chain with a car rim on one end and a gearbox driven by electric or small engine on the other. But don't know how much time and effort is needed to clean that mess out, either.
I thought WV was bad about not having a lot of flat ground but New York must be really bad.We have a lot of rock cliffs put ours are mostly used for out of staters to climb on :laugh:
At least our rock in WV are brown. Notice that purple tint to that NY granite. ;)
Yes, on this we can mostly agree. That 'purple tint' you see is ERC sawdust from 2 weeks ago or so.
My main dumb move for the day is correctable and educational - tome anyway. I was doing a 50 hour service and when I got to the checklist item about inspecting hydraulic lines, fitting nd fluid level all was good till I went to remove the plastic fill cap on the reservoir and noted it had a 1/4" hole in it. I decided it had blown a center out as I was sure it was solid. I had to go pickup oil and an air filter anyway so I stopped at my local hardware and showed it to the guy there and we determined it was the same size as a 3/8" pipe so I bought a plug for about $4.25. I went on to my small engine guy and got my air filter and showed it to him and he told me those hydraulics had to breathe an speculated there used to be some sort of filter in it. I came back and called WM and may have been their last call of the day but James in tech support confirmed that hole belonged there. I put it back on and all is right with the world again. I guess if I'd have put that solid plug in I'd have blown a hose or fitting somewhere.
What I don't understand as many times as I have done that inspection why I never noticed it had a hole in the plug before.
We don't need to mention putting new oil in before I forgot to put the plug back int he drain hose do we? That only cost me a few ounces before I noticed that. I do need to buy me another oil filter wrench as I guess I lost the one that fits that one and really buggered up the old one getting it off but it is done and I put the new one on good and hand tight it seems to beholding. I'll confirm in the morning but I check the oil before starting every time anyway so that is low risk.
At least those are minor and didn't cause any damage. If the reservoir isn't vented, you'd likely collapse it or blow the cap off depending on where the level was and where it was going to be as various cylinders cycled. A heavy metal reservoir with a failed vent can cause a pump to cavitate which breifly isn't usually a problem but for any real time can destroy the pump.
Well at the risk of putting myself up for ridicule once again. I will simply say that this was just a close call. Focus on that left glove in the knuckle strap area.
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That was from the band sawblade. No, my hand was not in the glove at the time. It was near the end of the session and I was working on a squirrely log and without being aware of it, I took my gloves off and left them on the log while I was measuring pith height and trying to get max out of the log. I forgot about the gloves and never saw them when I sent to saw down on the opening cut.
Obviously my hands were never in danger, but if that glove had sucked into the cut with the blade, I hate to think what would have happened. Instead the saw danced with the glove a bit and then it fell away. The right glove was one top on the log and never touched.
I gotta pay better attention, especially when I am getting tired and can smell the barn.
Ran my gloved thumb into the band moving lumber on the deck and cut the glove but not my hand. ;)
also used my machinest rule and forgot it started 3/16ths from the bottom! Fixed the scale height and snacked myself before continuing to mill;)
Does that count lol
I get real nervous anytime I see gloves, knowing spinny things are also involved.
Glad both of you guy's hands are ok!
I wear Grease Monkey / mechanics gloves in the mill shed. The cotton ones with nitrile on the fingers and palm. They are tight fitting, you can feel and press buttons, and they protect your hands. At $0.50 / pair I get a few days out of them then toss em.
I have been wearing the same type putting up insulation in the shop and it's nice that they fit tight. The ones that Old Greenhorn shows, I might as well be wearing wool mittens because I can't do anything with them.
I will re-post this one to confirm why you don't want to wear gloves or loose thigs around moving equipment. In my defense (if is any ::)) I had to wear gloves at the time because my hands were badly cracked from an atopic dermatitis (Dupixent is the cure but it is expensive)
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Yes, my hand was in the glove at the time.
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I was running bench legs through a table saw with the blade set at a 45* making octagon shapes.
Was June 2020 I think. 12 stitches, 2 broken fingers and it still hurts when I bump one of them but I am lucky it was not much worse.
Yeah I knew I would take some kind of beating when I posted that. ;D I don't care for those tight gloves with the rubber on them. Too tight and they make my hands sweat. I never wear gloves on a TS or RAS, that is suicide, as Howard demonstrated at great cost. I wear those gloves shown for lumber and log handling as well as changing blades. They don't get near the cutting action when my hands are in them. Moving lumber and slabs is tough on gloves and hands. These last a few months and in the winter I can slide a pair of wool of cotton fallers gloves inside them for warmth and they work great. I keep 3 pairs in my tool bag and swap them out during the day when they get real wet or muddy. They dry overnight if I remember to lay them out. ;D
Working knobs, button, and levers with gloves on is a learned skill. When I joined he fire service I had an instructor who saw me take my gloves off for any detailed work and he hammered me to learn to do everything with the gloves on, just practice a lot. He was right and I learned. Taking your gloves off in a fire to do a tank swap during a rescue can be very hazardous, so I learned.
I buy those gloves by the bundle and am happy with them. I prefer not to blame my tools for my shortcomings.
I reluctantly join this club.
Having never before done anything remotely dangerous or stupid to my hands or body, I submit my latest booboo:
Yesterday I had cut 10 joist pockets into two wall logs and decided I'd try my sort of new Kutzall grinder wheel to doll up the pockets after some chisel work. I use the Kutzall mostly for beveling logs or dolling up branch stubs on wall logs. To gain entry into a 6" wide pocket the handle had to come off my Milwaukee paddlle switch offset grinder to allow the wheel to face the back of the pockets. I was happy to see that Milwaukee had another threaded hole for vertical use of the handle. Of course that means the left had isn't quite as adept at holding back the wheel via the web of your left thumb.
My bib overalls now look similar to some of the work gloves above in an area where the wheel kicked back into my belly. It tore the zipper top loose, grabbed hold of some fabric and entered my boxers enough to burn a nice 3" long red abrasion onto my tummy. A picture will show it to be just above my family hair down there. Had I not been wearing bibs but my all summer long short and a T-shirt, I might have drawn some blood.
I've used Lancelots (circular chainsaw wheels and they are a tricky tool but I like them) this Kutzall's far more tame but given my tool setup having moved that handle, I was ripe for a bad injury. Lucky me. Glad it was my Dickies as I LOVE my Key Bibs.
Oh, I forgot to mention my other submission for entry "into the hall of fools":
Last Saturday I had a "special student kid" helping me. In candid reality he's got issues such as being medicated for aggressive compulsive disorder so what I'll call a bit scarily "numbed up" to say the least. At times I had to say something several times to get through the haze. We are planning 4x6's of 14' SYP and my chip suction system gets plugged up. I place an 8' step ladder on concrete where it cannot be opened behind a stack of the wood. I tell him to place both his boots against the ladders legs. Whatever he did or didn't do I was up against a 10' ceiling removing a 4" duct and it slipped across the floor against the wood pile. My left legs calf is now entirely purple and hurts like hell. It sort of slid that leg (my bad leg where I pulled hip muscles only a few days before and had a 14th shot after that by two days) against a bunch of ladder steps as my body descended to a standing position leaned against the ladder. I can only blame myself but truth is I need better help and to not depend on anyone else to save my groceries. ;D
My favorite gloves have become the knit plastic dots version. I hate those what I call engineer, safety cuff work gloves as too stiff & bulky! There are some neat gloves sold now but I'm too cheap to buy em.
Quote from: kantuckid on October 07, 2022, 08:46:31 AM
I reluctantly join this club.
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Good! It takes some of the heat off of me. ;D
Lest we all forget, this thread is intended to confess our mistakes and near misses so that others might learn and not make the same mistakes.
Quote from: aigheadish on October 07, 2022, 07:01:19 AM
I get real nervous anytime I see gloves, knowing spinny things are also involved.
Glad both of you guy's hands are ok!
No spinny things involved. The band was not moving which makes a point. Without the gloves I would have opened up my thumb not the gloves.
Like many things, the glove no gloves debate us like politics; neither side listens much. The glove side immediately jumps to spinny things and the glove side jumps to sharps.
I was a mechanic, heavy duty, in a past career, very past, and you did both. Gloves protect your hands from many things including sharps but must not be worn around skinny things. Skinny things require keeping your hands away at all times. I've had friends lose fingers WITHOUT wearing gloves while running tabke saws. That's why you should use push sticks etc.
Changing bands or running the mill is safe and easy with gloves on. Anyone putting hands near a spinning band should get a Darwin award.
Every day is a series of risk/reward decisions. Gloves for this? No gloves for that? Do I go to the shop and get X or do I make do with what I've got? Guard on the table saw or not? Where are my safety glasses? Ear plugs or ear muffs? Boots or tennis shoes? Chaps for just this one cut? The list is endless if you do anything! Even a nap in the recliner or on the sofa presents risks and rewards. :D
@kantuckid (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=7283) Your first paragraph there about took my breath away, yikes! I don't remember if the angle grinder was one of the tools I claimed to be afraid of in that other thread, but it should be!
@OlJarhead (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12463) Yup, I totally agree, I just get anxious when the subject is brought up. I hope to not be one of the safety police that gives people grief when doing things like that, especially when I can just about guarantee that I'm the least experienced of the bunch of us in the endeavors of this forum.
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) my neck hurts, pretty frequently, from my couch naps! Point well made!
Just had lunch, think I am going for the sofa :o
Wish me luck, I'll be sure to tuck in my PPE pillow to keep my neck inline.
everybody be safe out there!
JJ
:D
Sofa napping accidents account for 60 percent of the falls from upholstered furniture. You better put a side rail guard on that thing!
The other 40 percent are from recliners getting stuck and occupants trying to climb out. Keep your recliners in alignment and maintained to reduce getting stuck
And by all means use a coaster ! :o :D :D
This might already be way up this list. About 2 years ago I wasn't quite so lucky with my angle grinder. Perfect storm of stupid decisions. I was working in tight quarters such that I couldn't have the guard on the head (probably wouldn't have helped) nor the second handle. The next bad decision was to cut with it pulling the head into the cut rather than out of the cut. I was cutting about waist high or maybe a little higher. I can't remember if I was holding with two hands or just one. It grabbed and in less than a blink of the eye, it hit my knee with such force I thought I broke something. Man, that really, really hurt. My jeans had a 5 or 6 inch tear/cut about mid-thigh. I peeked in side and not a scratch. But boy did my knee hurt.
I continued cutting after I picked up my still spinning grinder (switch not paddle) and changed the blade. Man, my knee hurt. So I looked again and well below the jeans hole there was a gaping gash but no blood. The disk must have cauterized it!
The ER doc didn't like my suggestions to cut the ragged edge off the wound so it would heal cleaner. In hind sight, she wanted to have it heal from the inside out but that took almost a month.
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Quote from: SawyerTed on October 07, 2022, 03:08:53 PM
And by all means use a coaster ! :o :D :D
YES DEAR
Hey! Hey! Hey! Who gets the last chicken wing is the only domestic dispute that out ranks not using a coaster! At least here in the South! North of Winston Salem. Half way between King and Walnut Cove. Okay. At my house, not using a coaster leads to dumb injuries. I'm not telling anything else! :o :o
Carry on with the the thread. :D :D
Coasters you say? I have one of these but I can't bear to use it. I like it more than my furniture. :D
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With respect to Ted's remarks, I had no idea that safety nazis made it into our living rooms and are doing studies. What next?
Safety police are everywhere!
Shortly after my wife and I were married, we were doing what newlyweds do at night in bed. She stopped me and asked, "Should we be practicing safe sex?" I said, "We are, we're in the middle of the bed!"
Notice I didn't mention gloves!
All in good fun, Tom!
Gee, I never heard of anybody getting hurt watching TV or reading, but I suppose it could happen. ;D
Hecke I even know a guy that pretty banged up just driving his ATV down a small hill. Oh wait..... Never mind.
I should have had a designated driver today, as apparently I had my head hiding in a dark southern location. First thing hooking up the mill in the dark. Don't look at the backup camera until you back into the tongue of the mill🙈 backing the mill in front of the the customers logs and hear something scraping the right rear fender (snow blower)🙈. Finished the job and was turning the mill around and clipped a pile of firewood with the left front 🙈. Ugh, at least I didn't do any damage, maybe tomorrow will be better....
Some days are like that, I get 'em too. But look: Nobody got hurt and nothing was damaged, so they were minor (but embarrassing) incidents. Some of those things even happened with no witnesses, so they really didn't happen, right? ;D
Sounds like you got at it pretty early and worked a hard day. It's understandable, just be careful that it's not your body parts that get Bumped the next time. It's very hard to recognize when we are tired and have to proceed more carefully and a little slower.
Good point, I even scheduled an extra day of mobile milling this week somehow. Typically I save Saturday for work around the house or custom orders. Should be a good day though, it's a repeat customer that typically provides lunch 😁
Last week I was using my 6" jointer on some red oak for legs on a desk I'm making for my son. As usual I have too many projects going at once. So I finished the 4 legs and left them on top of the jointer. I got covid and have been out of commission for a week, so I go downstairs today and the desk legs left a lot of surface rust on my machine. They were down to about 12% MC when I started the project. I would usually never leave anything on my jointer, but I'm in the middle or reorganizing the entire work shop. Now I got another project....
Oh! is that considered a mistake? :o :o :o I do that more than i should. i touch surfaces up a few times a year. glue or epoxy, and just like crop circles i get round rings aprox. 2 inches in diameter. I use a scraper, then a sander (180 to 220), wipe with mineral spirits. I am glad all the new is worn off my equipment. yes, and before one of my "friends" says it, all of my equipment! :D :D :D
Yeah, same here with the new on my machines. When I got my sawstop I was really impressed with having a new table saw with a mirror finish on it. Now it has spots all over it that have rusted. I clean them up with some steel wool and wd40 and then wax the table. Then I do that all over again after then next rust spot shows up. I did a glue up on the saw one time and laid brown paper from a big roll I have and thought that would protect the top. It did not. Every drop of glue that landed on that paper made a little rust spot on the table top. There are a lot of little spots.
No injury but i got half done changing the blade on my table saw today when I remembered to unplug it
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Quote from: kantuckid on October 07, 2022, 08:46:31 AM
I reluctantly join this club.
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Good! It takes some of the heat off of me. ;D
Lest we all forget, this thread is intended to confess our mistakes and near misses so that others might learn and not make the same mistakes.
My boxers have the top of the pee hole slot torn apart. ::)
If that's not warning enough that life with tools is fret with danger, I may need to hang up my tools?
It was not a casual mistake either as I was carefully trying for some sort of "joist pocket perfection", of sorts.
When I walked in the house yesterday ~ 4:30, dirty and sweaty, Wife asks me what I did to myself today. I showed her my left underneath forearm where I'd somehow manage to draw blood several places while wearing a heavy sweatshirt. Logs are not real user friendly up on a ladder?
Unplugging' breaker boxing a tool is inherent in my nature as in industry I carried my own padlock in my toolbox to stay alive. I will not even change the cutting depth on a skil saw if plugged in.
Quote from: ljohnsaw on October 07, 2022, 03:33:12 PM
This might already be way up this list. About 2 years ago I wasn't quite so lucky with my angle grinder. Perfect storm of stupid decisions. I was working in tight quarters such that I couldn't have the guard on the head (probably wouldn't have helped) nor the second handle. The next bad decision was to cut with it pulling the head into the cut rather than out of the cut. I was cutting about waist high or maybe a little higher. I can't remember if I was holding with two hands or just one. It grabbed and in less than a blink of the eye, it hit my knee with such force I thought I broke something. Man, that really, really hurt. My jeans had a 5 or 6 inch tear/cut about mid-thigh. I peeked in side and not a scratch. But boy did my knee hurt.
I continued cutting after I picked up my still spinning grinder (switch not paddle) and changed the blade. Man, my knee hurt. So I looked again and well below the jeans hole there was a gaping gash but no blood. The disk must have cauterized it!
The ER doc didn't like my suggestions to cut the ragged edge off the wound so it would heal cleaner. In hind sight, she wanted to have it heal from the inside out but that took almost a month.
As an industrial millwright mechanic, we often dressed welds made by union welders. My larger point is that I had this thing happen and in my past I was a pro with an angle grinder for hours and hours. Yet it happened lately. Fact is my Milwaukee is a small grinder with a handy paddle switch not the maneaters I've used many times. 11,000 rpm's matter I guess?
Yesterday the boys and I took the canoe to a local lake to paddle around for a while. I hauled it on the flatbed truck such that one end was up on the headache rack and the other end was just on the tail end of the bed. I got up on the truck to pick up the end off of the rack. My 15 year old was on the ground with the other end. I lifted up the end and started walking back toward the tail of the bed and promptly stepped into the hole in the middle of the bed where the gooseneck hitch it. I did not get hurt, but thought I was going to as I felt like I fell for ever. Luckily my foot landed on top of the hitch which is about 6" below the bed. I really need to make a cover for that hole.
There is a similar hole in my truck bed, I haven't stepped in it.....yet. Sometimes I feel if there is a way to hurt myself I will find and exploit it.
Not sure how "dumb" this was but it sure does hurt.
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I decided to spend some time in my deer stand today. Well, it is raining acorns!
Have you ever had an acorn hit the top of your head? How about one hitting that little button on top of a ball cap?
It brought tears to my eyes!
I would definitely avoid hunting under a bur oak.
This is a beautiful white oak and it would make several saw logs!
Well Ted I don't think it was dumb. A learning experience perhaps, but not dumb. We had a bumper crop last year and just walking out to the mailbox was painful. Yes, I did get one right on the button of my cap and it did, indeed, hurt like the dickens. I took to walking across the lawn out of harms way. This year they have not started yet.
I will say that when we had the ice storm last winter and I insisted on going out to clear tree off our garage roof before the ice was gone, was truly dumb. I had a hard hat on and when that ice hit, hard and often, it really got one's attention and often hurt. Every time a breeze came up I would cringe. I would try, but be driven inside, day after day, until it finally melted 5 days later.
The first thing I do with a new ball cap is remove the button, my brother taught me that. Things still hurt but not as nearly as bad as with that stupid button.
I tried to break my collar bone this evening cutting 3/8" rebar with my big bolt cutter. ::) I had set the rebar in the trench against a barn foundation and needed to cut about 4 ft off. So why not brace the opposite handle against the foundation and push.(got kicked in the hand by a calf two weeks ago and greensticked a bone. I was getting by with 1 1/2 hands not much grip yet)..Well it let go all of a sudden and I wasn't quite ready and forward I went .....My shoulder stopped me on a temporary stud. Just because I was too lazy to pick the rebar out of the trench and set it on the ground and cut it the right way... It's just a little sore, could've been worse. I think the little button on top of the ball cap may have hurt worse than hitting the shoulder, as the scab from the last installment of running it into a low obstacle is about gone... :)
Quote from: Nebraska on October 10, 2022, 09:29:18 PM
I tried to break my collar bone this evening cutting 3/8" rebar with my big bolt cutter.....
All I had to read was that first sentence and I nearly spit beer through my nose (thank you). I knew that there was no way this would turn out well. Although I have never used 3/8 rebar, all my attempts to cut it ended in, um, learning experiences. I chipped jaws on bolt cutters enough times that I should have learned. Only use abrasive cutoffs these days unless there is an actual rebar shear on hand, which of course, never happens.
Green sticks don't heal in a week, but you know this better than I and at your age your were pretty dang lucky to get a greenstick, I thought that only happened in pediatric cases?
Anyway, I'm glad there was no damage of consequence except to your pride and the federal requirements for you to report it here.
Heal up before you break something new.
Quote from: Nebraska on October 10, 2022, 09:29:18 PM(got kicked in the hand by a calf two weeks ago and greensticked a bone. I was getting by with 1 1/2 hands not much grip yet).
For me anyway, I think the best way to recover from that injury would be with plenty of veal!
Quote from: sawguy21 on October 09, 2022, 11:43:29 AM
There is a similar hole in my truck bed, I haven't stepped in it.....yet. Sometimes I feel if there is a way to hurt myself I will find and exploit it.
While building my home in 1979 I was walking the top of the foundation and stepped on the termite shield of roll aluminum that covered the basement windows, as if it was gonna hold my body. I fell flat backwards with my spine hitting the concrete block edge of the window opening. The windows were in place and crappy alu versions that one collapsing under my weight. I have never forgotten my mind wondering if I'd created a quadriplegic that day. I was in my mid 30's and healed fast but it's also part of my lengthly back report and maybe one reason I now wake up in the early hours when my iburpofens wear off. Stupidity has no bounds for me as I've already had my "9 lives" me thinks? :D
Veal I can do without.
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Yeah those bolt cutters were 30 yards closer than my battery powered angle grinder.... :) Another couple weeks and the hand will be better. At least it's not calving season.
Still looks painful.
Nebraska, you crack me... you up... ... ... :)
i got an electric (Sawzall type motor frame) over hydraulic rebar cutter, from HF. no longer available. they were prob. too good a tool easy to get into the tough spots.
Yeah, I've never heard the term greenstick with anyone but a young child either.
Young at heart I suppose ;) .....well the calf actually cracked me up.... I still feel I won in the end, as he's now a steer. :)
Well maybe Nebraska is younger than we all thought? :D
Truthfully I thought back on my training and they taught us that green sticks were more common in PEDs, so that would mean they occur in adults, just at a lower frequency.
Payback is a birch!
kids' bones are less brittle, they flex and break on one side, but do not go all the way through.
That image from your own machine Nebraska?
I reserve the right to avoid self incrimination.
As you should.
Besides, we all know the answer anyway. If I had a lift in my shop I would not take my car to the mechanic to 'check out that funny noise underneath'.
Quote from: Nebraska on October 12, 2022, 07:10:29 AM
I reserve the right to avoid self incrimination.
I've always wondered if Vets take the critter pills-feel free not to answer my question... ;D
All I can add is that Tractor Supply has some really good first aid supplys.
@kantuckid (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=7283) Well actually it probably is more the other way around, at least for pharmaceutical types of things. There's some animal specific NSAID types of things. (Ibuprofen for us, Carprofen for Dogs) The Amoxicillin on my shelf is the same as you would get at the pharmacy. :)
Be forewarned, LA 200 is effective, but stings enough that putting up with the alternative, puss filled, infection actually becomes a viable alternative. :D
our vet often has us get antibiotics for our dogs, at my wife's pharmacy.
My son gets a turn doesn't he? He went into the soccer game to replace the guy who got kicked in the face and was bleeding from his lip and nose. My son was in there about 5 minutes before he headed a ball and then the opponent who had tried to head the ball then headed his face. He apparently bled a pretty good amount on the field before they walked him to the sideline. Now he gets to go to the ENT tomorrow to see if his nose is broken. He has a small laceration on the bridge of his nose that keeps bleeding. No doubt he is gonna have 2 black eyes. Hopefully the damage is not too bad and he will get to play this weekend.
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Sorry man, tell him I said to walk it off. ;D :D He does look a bit like his septum is deviated, but geez, half of us have that. Now he can go into boxing, martial arts, or rugby with no worries. ;D
Hope is is feeling ok, he's a handsome boy and looks pretty strong there.
I asked him if his face hurt...because its killing me. Everyone knows that one right?
I will tell him what you said. I don't think its gonna be as bad as we originally thought. He said he bled enough to cover a dinner plate on the field. We were on the stands assuming he had been hit in the face and had broken teeth, with mangled braces. I walked most of the way to the other side of the field when the coach waved me off and said he was gonna be fine. There was a trainer with him.
Quote from: SawyerTed on October 10, 2022, 05:32:25 PM
This is a beautiful white oak and it would make several saw logs!
Is it still standing?
Yes for the time being. :D It is on a ridge full of oaks and hickory trees. I believe I'd rather get hit with acorns than hickory nuts! The hickory nuts are bigger than the acorns.
Walnuts. Those hit the kiln and sound like a rifle shot.
I've been watching a chestnut, that burr would get your attention :D
We have a large Buckeye tree that I built an outside deck around. When we went to a metal roof last year it now sounds like "incoming" when they drop. It was originally a good distance downhill from the original house, now it has an octagon bench built around it that has a hole full of tree and in need of some relief space.
The acorns hitting the tin roof on one of my sheds sounds like a 10/22 with a banana clip.
Of all the years walking, riding, working in the works I have never been hit with an acorn. And I have A LOT of red oak trees.
Well, I can't say that anymore. A few weeks ago, one hit me on the shoulder. It got my attention and made me think, I have never had that happen.
When I came in the house, I even told the wife about it.
We are not flush with oaks, but we have Geese. I remember standing in a group of leaders and scouts on a campout and looking up at a flock of geese flying overhead. i said to myself, "self, it is odd that people never get pooped on standing under a flock of geese flying over!" then it hit me. It did not dawn on me, it hit me in the L chest. a big wad of goose poop. So be careful what you are thinking. :snowball: 8) :) :D
I got shelled the other day when a strong gust came by and de-acornified an oak tree. I discovered I probably need to run more because I didn't do well getting out of my own way.
I'd welcome some falling acorns right now. This seems to be a big year for black walnuts and they're falling in multiples right now. Getting hit by walnuts makes acorn strikes seem like no big deal.
Not getting any action from hickory nuts yet. Seems like every one of my metal roofs has a hickory tree above it and most years it sounds like a war zone during hickory nut season.
Everyone stay safe and keep your head down!
i have one oak in the yard. 30+ feet tall now, was a sapling 17 years ago. the acorns are the size of a nickel and the squirrels eat them right from the tree.
:D :D
Quote then it hit me. It did not dawn on me, it hit me in the L chest.
Reminds me of being a shy freshman in college, and our house was involved in an exchange with a women's dorm. Paired up, we walked along a path beside a lake with blazing colors of fall abound. Then it hit me!! Dropped along side the head and dripped off my right ear. Missed her, but we didn't hit it off after that, for some reason and it might have been me. :snowball: :snowball:
This is the season for what I think are starlings flying over and landing in our trees, by the thousands. They are really neat to watch flock over and make a heck of a noise when they are hanging out in the trees, then a whoooosh, and off they go. Usually, it's ok but sometimes you'll hear them fly over and it sounds like it's raining. I haven't been hit yet, but it's bound to happen. I did get more cautious when looking up at them and at least shut my mouth.
yes they teach that in rock climbing. do not look up if you hear something falling, and for sure do not be in "ahh" with your mouth open.
Quote from: Southside on October 13, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
Walnuts. Those hit the kiln and sound like a rifle shot.
Yep!
Our camper was under an aluminum cover near a walnut tree on our land in Va. When we'd visit in the fall the walnuts would fall and hit the cover and we'd always jump as the sound was sudden and load.
Quote from: samandothers on October 13, 2022, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Southside on October 13, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
Walnuts. Those hit the kiln and sound like a rifle shot.
Yep!
Our camper was under an aluminum cover near a walnut tree on our land in Va. When we'd visit in the fall the walnuts would fall and hit the cover and we'd always jump as the sound was sudden and load.
In the 1960's I briefly worked for the SanteFe RR as a laborer, having quit over pay issues at a grocery store. Our main spot for work was an open, aluminum roofed, concrete dock area beside a car siding. A year or so before my time there a hail storm had penetrated that metal roof such that it had drippy spots and light coming through all over the place. I think they quit selling that roofing.
Yesterday it wasn't acorns "falling", it was my load of build logs "falling". I had some log ceiling joists that had weather so long I DA sanded them and doped with log oil before loading. I tried to cinch them down for transport on my hay wagon but they were slicker than snot and as I was 1/2 way up a very steep grade-off go two of my logs under the 3" cargo ratchet straps! They hit the slope and dig in. I walk back to fetch a come-along, log chain and a rope and proceed to spend several hours pulling them back on while trying to keep the rest tied down from taking the same dive, all in a spot where it's a challenge to stand up, let alone work. I finally get them to the build site and it's past 3pm and I unload trying to keep them from sliding sideways off the forks. Some days ya can't win? Acorns lying all around me, maybe I'm gonna be OK.
I see walnuts overhanging highways around me and wonder how many windshields they've taken out? State boys should remove them!
Chest goose hit beats sure beats in the mouth...... :)
Well, I don't really think it should be my turn quite so soon, but here I am ..... again.
Yesterday turned out to be a longer day than I planed and I got back after dark and the wife gave up waiting and ate dinner without me. >:( I don't blame her. Having trouble adjusting to shorter days. Anyway, lots of stuff on the list for this morning and with no time to get a jump on it last night I managed to oversleep this morning (I needed it anyway, the last few nights ain't been good). My son and his boys were supposed to be over at 9am to help stack wood (ha ha) and help me load the trailer after unloading it so I could deliver the TS I sold before 12pm. Well, I only had 2 cups of coffee and went out to hitch the trailer at 9:30 alone. No big deal, but I had this full sized truck bed ladder rack on it that added some weight and I was having a bit of a struggle to lift the tongue and get it slipped over the ball. I got it on, twice, but it would not fall 'home'. I assumed the cam latch was hung up or jammed as sometimes happens, so I lifted, wiggled and re-dropped it on, but it still would not fall on. I finally lifted the tongue and held it up with one arm while a reached under the coupling to make sure the locking cam was free and in the right place. That was about the time I felt a startling and interesting 'tingle' shoot up my back right about the time my ears rang a little. I dropped the coupling back on the ball and it didn't drop on. Did I mention I only had 2 cups of coffee?
So I was contemplating this tingle in my back, which had now transformed into something akin to 'clear pain' and of course my head was hanging. I looked at the hitch and realized I would have a very tough time getting a 2" coupling to settle down on a 2-5/8" ball. I'm an idiot.
I changed out the ball, it went together fine, but was tougher with my new set of sensations. My son finally showed up at 10:30. We got the rack off the trailer, and the saw on, and I delivered it 30 minutes away. I came back, they were gone and I was left to continue firewood, but after 30 minutes of filling the trailer with split wood, my back was again screaming and I quit. I did some wire brushing on the ladder rack getting ready for touch up paint, but the pain was making work somewhat unpleasant.
I am currently treating the back issue with Ibuprofen and alcohol (both applied internally). One of the stupidest things I have done in a while. (but I may have said that before.)
You should just go ahead and get a trailer tongue jack.
[Hangs Head] Yeah, that trailer has one, with a wheel. But it wasn't 'loaded very much' and to save time I just picked it up and humped it on. That jack is kind of due for replacement and I don't enjoy using it, or trust it too much, but yeah, I could have used it today.
Did I mention I only had 2 cups of coffee?
If two cups make you that dumb, just think what 3-4 would have done. :D
I don't really fire on most cylinders until I have 4 or more cups. 2 is barely an eye opener.
Yup. I had to learn the hard way about my back. I still think I can do stuff I shouldn't have done 20 or 30 years ago. :D :D
The cost of a tongue jack is cheap compared to lost wages for several days or worse yet, surgery $$$$$!
The spine Dr told me to do better or I was headed for surgery. That was in 2011. I've not been back to see her since and I've only had minor back pain.
Well, I have a great chiro man, but I should not go doing things to enhance his retirement accounts. ;D
Yeah, I have a jack, I should probably use it, or replace it with one that works better and move that one to the small trailer I use for firewood.
Just dumb, no other excuse. (more coffee would have helped though, did I mention......)
so Tom, you state you are taking the ibuprofen and alcohol internally, but some of us, we know that leaves a lot of options open to the imagination!.. shall we assume you mean ORALLY? Let us hope and pray! 8) :snowball: :)
OG you should have used the wire brush on your balls, at least that's what Ted would have done. :D
Sure does stiffen your spine! :D :D :D
Yes Doc, PO of course.
SS, it would take a long time to wire brush that ball down to 2". ;D Actually I grease my balls. The 2-5/8 one generally gets more grease because of the heavier loads and that is what I noticed to make me realize I had the wrong ball on the truck.
Ted, it sure did. This morning it is a lot better. Last night I was pretty miserable and went to bed at 8:30. This morning it's much more tolerable.
Tom, glad it's better and hopefully not too serious.
I've heard in years past dropping a loaded trailer tongue makes a jackstand look like a wise investment. Dropping it on a cinder block, with your hand pinched in between, finalizes the jackstand decision. :-X
I've also heard if you load all the firewood to the back of the trailer, and the hitch coupler isn't latched, the back of said trailer will become very "down", while the front tongue will be very "up". :-X
To make a tail heavy trailer do a pirouette just chock one wheel on a hill. In the right conditions the trailer might do two or three.
It isn't as pretty as it sounds, especially the ending.
A tongue jack only provides one more thing to dodge.
Quote from: Resonator on October 17, 2022, 10:25:40 AM
I've also heard if you load all the firewood to the back of the trailer, and the hitch coupler isn't latched, the back of said trailer will become very "down", while the front tongue will be very "up". :-X
I did a little of this on Friday but it was backing my ATV off the trailer down the ramps after unhooking it from the truck. Luckily I backed down quickly and the tongue jack only rose up maybe 2' then slammed down, it would have been worse if I stopped in the middle and let it go sky high, something would have surely been damaged. As is, it seems no worse for the wear but I certainly won't be doing that again, not unless it's on a trailer that has rear jacks.
We did that with a pallet of concrete bags a week or two ago. Luckily just crash and burn into the stone pile. Hmm, there's been another pallet in the back of the pickup since, no wonder I'm sick of mixing :D. We thought that tightening the latch dookickey would help but it is not adjustable. My partner went to HF and their 2-5/16's were not adjustable either ???.
As previously stated in reply 3076 and 3080 and just to be clear, I do have a jack and it was in use. What was not stated was that said jack was nearly at the top of it's stroke and getting wobbly so I only had to lift and drop about 2-3". I know I was dumb, but geez, not that dumb.
Wen removing heavier stuff via the ramp I always chuck a pair of jackstands under the back edge, it's just safer.
I thought all of the couplers were adjustable!? Otherwise when you wire brush your balls how are you going to take up for the size difference?
Better to try and put a 2" tongue on a 2 5/16 ball than putting a 2 5/16 tongue on a 2" ball and not realize what you just did. I've heard that if you do what I just mentioned that the trailer can come uncoupled. I've heard that. I myself have never taken my trailer somewhere to load up a large walnut log and as soon as the weight of the log is on the back of the trailer the tongue lifts off the ball. Like I said, I have never done that. If I had done something like that, I would never tell you fellas about it.
Classic. That is, if it ever happened to 'somebody'. Give me time, I might do that one too. It may take a few years, but it might be next week. Not likely to be that soon though as I am somewhat 'sensitized' to ball sizes right now. (Size matters) ;D :D
Umm, I heard of someone moving an entire log home package up a steep mountain road like that. Too dumb to fail :D.
Come to think of it, you just reminded me about 'a guy I know' who was in the fire department and was answering the call on a week long wildland fire. He took his pickup to the firehouse at 5am (probably only had 2 cups of coffee) and hooked up the 6 wheeler trailer and headed the the CP for the fire as requested. His normal habit was to drive a few miles, then pull over, check the load, hitch, connections, chains, etc. before running the rest of the route. Well he had to delay that until he found a safe and easy place to pull over. When he did, he found that he never closed the latch on the coupler. Nobody around, no damage done. Nobody ever knew. Too dumb to fail is right. I would not want to be 'that guy' explaining to his Chief how the 6 wheeler got splattered over the 4 lane. :D ;D
good to have some tongue weight! :)
All of these scenarios hit close to home, whether attempted by me or someone I know. Serious question what is the best grease for a ball hitch? I once suggested it to my FIL and he said all it does is make a mess and collect dirt. I assume he tried bearing grease or something in the past. His ball was so rusty it creaked when the boat trailer turned.
I use any grease handy, usually a GP grease. The point is to lubricate that friction point, particularly under heavy loads. That squeaking tells you the steel is wearing and sometimes friction welding and breaking all at the same time and repeatedly. This causes dimples and more wear and pretty quickly too. Also enhances rust entry points which all adds up to a downward spiral. The coupling is the weak point in the chain and will wear through first.
They sell cheap ball covers my Pop always had on his hitches. If it's been a while since I used the hitch, I use a throw away rag, wipe off the dirt, and put fresh grease on. Grease and oil are always cheaper than steel.
Good to know. I like the multi hitches with 3 different size balls and the tow hook. Easy to change when you finally realize you got the wrong size.
I keep a plastic container in my truck toolbox that has a greasy rag in it. The rag is rolled up like a tube and the ends of it are clean. I just pull it back and forth and it lubes it up. I usually also have a can of silicone lube in the box too.
Quote from: Otis1 on October 17, 2022, 10:19:43 PMHis ball was so rusty it creaked when the boat trailer turned.
Well, at least he knew it was still hitched up! ;)
Now I just remembered another one and this was definitely a buddy of mine in TX, not me. He was a ham, like me, and he got a deal on a load of 100 feet of Rohn 55 antenna tower sections. This makes a good load for a 16' utility trailer, which he borrowed for the job. It was a 60 mile run and he was headed home with the load down one of those 2 lane TX roads that is pretty much straight as a pencil line and whatever speed you want to drive until it goes through a small town, with a stoplight, then out the other end and back up to cruising speed. So he is hitting these towns and cruising between. In one town he gets stopped at the light, then takes off when it turns green and thinks "man my little truck is handling this load great!" Another mile or two down the road he glances in the rearview and sees he has no trailer. ;D
He turns around and goes back. He finds the trailer still sitting at the traffic light. The ball is in the coupling and the ball nut and washer is a few feet behind the trailer. He tells me that in TX, you don't need safety chains on small trailers. I don't know if this is still true, but that's what he said. Anyway, he put the ball back on, but the threads were a bit buggered (ya think?) and he lacked any proper tools to do the job fully. SO he drove like a granny for about 20 miles checking the ball frequently until he passed a ranch and saw a guy working on a tractor. He pulled over borrowed some tools after explaining his 'issue' and got the ball tight. He told me the worst part of the 'experience' was listening to that rancher laugh and laugh and laugh and relate stories about the dumbest things he had ever seen. :D :D ;D
Wish I was there. ;D
Not a huge concern, but one none the less is to make sure your ball doesn't get stolen. Usually only a problem when I travel for work but scrap junkies will take anything not locked down. I usually put mine in the bed under a locked topper when not in use. I tried one of those locking pins but I ended up having to sawzall or grind it off after a salty Wisconsin winter.
Reese sells a Teflon grease for hitch balls. The only reason I know that is my Dad had some in his shop when we cleaned it out. It's best to keep a cover on the ball if you grease it. Otherwise be prepared to use a wire brush. :D
I have never used grease, and have kept the rust off with use. I have never worn out a ball or coupler. It might be quieter.
Also never used grease on the ball or coupler. I do remove the hitch and store it with ball inside. Saves banging a knee or leg on the thing.
I use the ATF bottle that I lube the mill with. Put a little on the hitch and ball when hooking up. Doesn't make the mess that grease does and keeps the noise down .
mh
I'm not a tuff guy like a certain somebody , but if I wuz, applying grease might be rather soothing after da wire brush. :-\
:D :D Now that's funny!
Cut the bottom out of a tennis ball, put grease in it. pull the ball off grease is on. When done, put the ball back on to keep it clean.
OGH,
As I read your trailer post I expected to read when the back twinged you dropped the tongue. This would lead to the fingers inside the coupler being trapped between ball and trailer coupler. GLAD to read that was not the case.
I will admit to regularly pulling my tandem axle dump trailer with 2 5/16 ball around the yard with my tractor with 2" ball. Works fine with the bucket ball, as I can see the trailer, and I can lift the bucket to keep lots of weight on the ball. I didn't have the bucket stinger on the other day, so I dropped the trailer hitch onto the drawbar ball instead. Was fine until I crested a small downhill, and left the trailer teetering at the top. Of course it rolled over the edge and picked up speed chasing me on the tractor. I got lucky and the tongue hit a rear tire, not the rear mounted hydraulic pump or transaxle.
I really should mount a tri-ball on the tractor drawbar.
I do the same around the yard. 2-inch ball for everything. do not have to get out of the skid loader. i use a 10 foot "stiff arm" crane. it has a 2-inch receiver and different items can be put in. It also has a 2-foot chain with hook for lifting logs over trailer sides with lifting tongs.
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moving the mill. I can do three point turns in a small area.
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Quote from: samandothers on October 21, 2022, 09:49:34 AM
OGH,
As I read your trailer post I expected to read when the back twinged you dropped the tongue. This would lead to the fingers inside the coupler being trapped between ball and trailer coupler. GLAD to read that was not the case.
I've learned that all couplers are not well made! I added a HF Chinese cheapo one to the tongue of the hay wagon I re-built to tote wall logs to my build site. It can be VERY un-cooperative. My RV coupler is far better indeed. I don't cover my RV ball ever but I do take a paper shop towel and wipe it off from grit between campsite moves as it just does better with some lube, not like I've ever had ball become unusable. The only large than 2" balls are equipment trailer rated and a must have for certain heavy tows.
We are better placed in Scotland. 2" tow balls were replaced by 50mm 40 or so years ago.
As far as I am aware that is the only size of Ball hitch in current use.
Heavy farm trailers and similar use a Ring Eye on the trailer.
My Caravan hitch has an "anti snake" device which clamps on to the Ball and dampens any tendency for the van to misbehave.
The ball is greased and covered when not in use. The grease is cleaned off before using the hitch.
Take care.
Silverfox.
I note that 50mm is less than 2" in diameter (1.960") and am wondering what the weight rating is on that sized ball. I have 3 sizes: 1-7/8, 2", and 2-5/16". To the best of my knowledge all 2-5/16' balls are rated at 6,000 ponds or more. 2" balls are 4,000 6,000 [edited to correct] pounds, and 1-7/8 is less than the other two, but I really don't know what.
What you call a Ring eye, we call a Pintle hitch, probably the same thing. Yes, your system is simpler but I am wondering what the weight rating is. I do wish I didn't need to have 4 different hitches to handle all the possible trailers, but that's the way it is.
The Scottish system sounds like what they used in Norway. The ones I saw had a long (2' or more) curved neck with the ball built on to the end. It appeared to have been cast on it and was not added like ours are. They all looked like they were smaller than our 1-7/8" ball but I never measured one. Very small sedans would have a trailer hitch on them and all seemed to have electric brakes. The trailers looked to be something like 5'X8' or on that range and looked way to big for the small cars towing them IMHO. Every gas station/convenience store seemed to have a couple for rent. I never saw a big rental place like our U-Haul. Pick up trucks were pretty rare and apparently much more expensive to license and operate over there.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on October 30, 2022, 05:40:20 AM2" balls are 4,000 pounds
FWIW, My 2" have 5,000 stamped on them.
I think the ball size and max weight can vary. You can buy 2 inch or 2 & 5/16th inch balls with different threaded diameters and therefore fit into a heavier hitch. I have one with an over 1-inch threaded bolt bottom and it goes into a heavy forged hitch. I think it is rated higher than others with the same ball size. only as strong as your weakest link!
Quote from: ljohnsaw on October 30, 2022, 09:59:56 AMFWIW, My 2" have 5,000 stamped on them.
SO noted, and I have corrected my post above. John , now you are making me go out the the shop and look at my balls, all of them, the see what the rating is.
Weakest link, yes, of course. Mine weakest link is between my ears. ;D At least that's what my pop would say sometimes. :D He did Love me though (I think).
Well Tom, at least you are not out standing in the driveway looking at your balls. :snowball: :snowball: ::) :o :)
Here are 4 hitch balls (of the 8 spares I have no recollection of acquiring). I believe several of my collection came from my Dad's shop when I cleaned it out. Who knows where the nuts and lock washers are?
2 5/16 is stamped 16,000#
One 2" is stamped 5,000 #
One 2" is stamped 3,000 #
The 1 7/8 is stamped 3,500 #
The 1 7/8 has a larger shank than the 3,000 # 2" ball.
The point is it's best to check the capacity stamped on the ball/hitch combination before trusting that one is correctly sized for the weight of the towable.
Thinking all 2" balls have "x" capacity could mean trouble.
By the way, see how shiny they are? :o ;D
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That's not akin to the perverbial 4 balled tom cat I've heard about before is it?
Ken I don't think I can answer that. ;D
But yeah, I did wind up out in the driveway looking at my balls. The 2-5/16 on the truck had a rating of crazy high rating which I forget now, the 2" was 5,000#, another 2" on the mule was also 5,000# but the adaptor was not rated near that (1-1/4"). I also checked my balls in the shop, about 4, and they were rated similar to what Ted stated, if not identical. I could not find a 1-7/8 but I forgot about checking the shed where I have another pile. I also note the he hitch couplers have their own ratings which vary.
As Doc said, you are only as good as your weakest link, so you have to check coupler, ball, ball adaptor, and hitch rating. I guess from now on, when changing what I pull or how I pull it, I will have to check my balls and everything that connects to them.
Learn something new everyday here on the FF!
don't forget the 4 or 6 little bolts that are supposed to hold the tow hitch to the towing vehicle frame. I swear the balls have a higher rating than most of those.
My turn. This weekend Dad and I were cutting some tapered posts for Grandma's new house, documented in the Whatcha Sawing thread. The easiest way to load them into the box jig that Dad made was to use the tractor and bring the post to the mill then I would just up on the mill and roll the post into the box. This worked fine for the first two. One the third I grabbed the post and started to roll it then my right foot shot out from under me. I had stepped onto a loose scrap of wood that we were using for one of the spacers. My right foot went over the bed rails and my left foot went through the frame almost to the ground. I suppose you could say I got lucky because I didn't fall all of the way to the ground. Luckily the top of the outrigger was there to catch me, squarely in my lower back. ::)
That could have been ugly. Hope you are feeling OK today.
Ouch.....btw I've never encountered a cat like that. :)
I am one lucky dude. I was taking out a tree. After cutting down 30-40 other trees I guess I got overconfident. One of the techniques I was using is making an angled hinge to control the direction of the fall. For those not familiar with this technique, its simply making the hinge thicker on the side you want to direct the fall towards. Looking at it over head, its kinda like a triangle. Only I cut it too thin. I was pounding the wedges in for the drop when there was a crack and the tree fell 90 degrees from the intended direction. Looking at it, the pointy end of the triangle was 1", the thick end was 2" and it just snapped off. It should be more like 2" and 3" at least.
I immediately saw it was going to miss my newly installed 30x40 metal building, but a long branch got the front corner. Bent three purlins(called hat racks in the metal building industry), a trim gutter, a roof panel and a piece of trim. $800 bucks for the parts delivered. I am gonna try to straighten some things. The roof is still secure and watertight, just bent.
So I learned three things from this: the first which is reoccurring from time to time, slow down and think; the second is to be accurate with the cut to the hinge(overconfidence); the third is to put a double wedge in the side where you really don't want the tree to fall.
OOOOOPS! :D I'm glad it's only your pride and the building that were hurt.
Glad it wasn't any worse! The building damage sounds like it can be fixed. Sorry it happened that way.
Who hasn't had a tree go less than the ideal direction? Not me! No never! (Hope that God's aim with lightning bolt is off today)! I've actually had two notable miscalculations cutting trees. The last was a couple years ago, I was fortunate that no damage occurred and the road was blocked only a few minutes. ::)
Rustic, how big was that tree? Was it dead or alive? I've only had one hinge snap on me like that and it was a dead ash about 14" DBH. no wedging, but the hinge snapped as the fall began and the stick went 90° off course.
Sounds like that hinge might have been thicker than you needed. I just did a flaky one by my shed Saturday but with the risk involved, I threw a rope 20' and pulled it with the mule as I cut. There wasn't much on that stump to work with.
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It was a 20 inch DBH tree growing up but crooked all over, the kind that goes to one side then the other and then the branches go another direction. I probably had the one side heavier than I thought it would be. The butt was solid all the way through.
I'm still mad at my building for jumping in the way to try and break its fall. >:( >:(
last time I did that I flattened the kids playground it could have been much worse.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D (sorry). I bet the dinner conversation was interesting that night. ;D
The words exchanged with the tree and the saw were enough to make a sailor blush :)
Did something today that was a first for me and hopefully the last. A friend of mine that I have not seen for years came for a visit. He has a bunch of pine logs that he wants me to mill for him next spring. Anyway, he brought with him a small black walnut log that he wanted slabbed. The blade on the mill was dull so I replaced it with one I resharpened myself. Unfortunately the blade I put on happened to be the one blade I had that at one time had been damaged. I had tried to reset it but soon found out it wasn't right because during the cut, the blade dove really bad. It was a short log so I tried to keep going to get though, but I didn't make it. The blade ended up getting so hot, even with lube, that it started smoking. I shut down with the blade in the log and went to replace it with a new blade. When I went to replace the blade I found that because it had gotten so hot, the blade stuck to the tires on my band wheels after it cooled. I had to actually re-heat the blade again with a torch to separate it from the tires using a putty knife. Put the new blade on and fortunately it still cut fine in spite of my newly shaped tires.
Notes to self.
Don't do that again!
Make sure and mark any blades I think could be marginal.
Order a new set of band wheel tires.
That had to be smokin'! :o
Brute force and ignorance sometimes leads to finesse and knowledge. Sometimes.
Today I decided to finish filling the firewood rack here at the house so I backed the trailer up to the firewood rack to load up. I thought about gloves but I doubted that I would pick up a splinter so no gloves.
I grabbed the first two sticks and immediately Zoweeee!!! A Yellowjacket was clinging to the underside of the stick and it had brought it's own splinter to the party. :o
without a picture, you know it did not happen. they are moving slower up here.
Wasn't much left to take a picture of but a flat greasy spot. :D
First time that I remember being stung on the palm side of my thumb. :-X
your hands are tougher than the wasp.
Sawing last Saturday, had to change fuel tanks. Sunday I was using my tractor and it was low on fuel. Did not have another can so I used what was in the mill tank. All of it. Then in a stroke of genius put the empty tank back on the mill, even hooking up the lines.
I picked up more fuel Thursday after work. I put the fuel in the garage.
Today I needed to cut 7 2x6 in half for a project so I put them on the mill, starting the mill to warm it up. At the same time that I hit the clutch switch the air got to the injectors. It sputtered and died.
My genius does not stop there, no I have to diagnose the fuel problem and don't realize what I did until I have the bleeder loose and am pumping the primer bulb!
That dang cataperkins will not run on air.
With a full tank and a quick bleed it started right up.
mh
Well, here is the background.
My pickup truck is on its last legs. So instead of putting more money into it, I bought a SUV to drive around town and other business trips.
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I got this 2013 Chevy Captiva. That could be my first mistake. But what I am writing about is what happened while I was driving it.
I had a business trip planned to drive to Kansas City, MO. My gps program said 18 hours drive. So, I was going to do two days driving 9 hours each day as to not overdue it. (Per wife's instructions).
Well, I packed up the SUV with the tools I was taking and my luggage. Filled the gas tank full and started out.
Along the way west from my home in eastern NC, I stopped to see a friend at his house. Then continued on.
As I drove, I was watching the gas gauge and it was going down, per usual and I said I'd have to stop for gas when it gets to 1/4 of a tank.
I kept driving. Little did I know or realize that the gas gauge sending unit was broken.
I drove 500 miles and ran it out of gas. Boy did I feel dumb. The gas gauge read 1/2 tank.
I was sitting on the side of the highway in Knoxville TN out of gas.
I called AAA to ask for roadside assistance and to bring me some gas.
Before they could get there, another roadside assistance fellow stopped and asked what the matter was. I told him I ran it out of gas. He poured in a gallon and asked if that would be enough. I said how far is the nearest gas station? He said two exits down the highway.
I managed to get to the gas station, without running out again.
While filling up AAA called and asked where was I?
I canceled them and they said no problem as they hadn't sent out a truck yet.
The remainder of my trip I had to use the trip odometer to keep track of my mileage and filled up every 300 miles.
Today, I am home, and it was a long drive over there and back.
Jim Rogers
Oh man, that's a rough way to find out your gas gauge doesn't work. At least help showed up and it didn't involve you walking miles for gas. I guess you'll be in the shop soon getting that fixed.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on November 14, 2022, 05:19:23 PM
Oh man, that's a rough way to find out your gas gauge doesn't work. At least help showed up and it didn't involve you walking miles for gas. I guess you'll be in the shop soon getting that fixed.
I've got to take it to a couple of repair garages to get several prices for replacing the fuel pump/sending unit in the gas tank.
Jim Rogers
I'd do a bit of google research about the vehicle before going to a garage Jim, it could very well be the sending unit but the few GM vehicles I have had had lots of electrical and dash issues.
X2. Have them do an electrical check- test make sure it's not a wiring issue.
I've heard of Captiva's referred to with a letter R added in the name... :-X
Jim, so how many miles per gallon did you end up getting on this trip?
I've never heard of a Captiva but I don't get out much .
Quote from: beenthere on November 14, 2022, 06:38:26 PM
Jim, so how many miles per gallon did you end up getting on this trip?
Average was about 24 miles per gallon. Drove it over 2400 miles
Jim Rogers
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on November 14, 2022, 02:34:20 PMLittle did I know or realize that the gas gauge sending unit was broken.
Back in 1980 or so, I bought a 1968 VW Squareback. Had to rebuild the engine. The gas gauge wasn't working (always on empty). Pulled the unit out and found it was a long nichrome wire with a cork float that would go up and down on the wire making the circuit longer (empty) or shorter (full). The wire was broken right at the end. Being a broke college student, I decided to fix it. I solderer the wire to the connector not really paying attention to the length (made it about 3/8" shorter). I was driving for a few days to school getting great gas mileage. ::) As I passed through a traffic light, it died. Was able to push it about 50' into a gas station. Then I realized what I did. So I re-soldered it right at the end of the wire and it was fairly accurate.
My 2007 2500 HD Chevy has the opposite issue. It will show near empty when still 'probably' 1/2 full. I have become accustomed to 'filling up' a 3/4 ton with 14 gallons or so.
Long tanks in the hills means your gauge is sort of a serving suggestion :D.
I hope I didn't do something dumb. I found a guy selling a Woodmizer BMS25 sharpener on facebook. I told him I would buy it. He shipped it and I bank transferred money. The more I got into paying him the more it seemed fishy. I'm not going to go into details, but its just not the way I do business and perhaps he is accustomed to being a younger person. Hopefully I will know today if he shipped me an $800 brick or actually the sharpener. So many scams these days and folks with fake names and using trac phones that can't be traced. I would have just shelled out the money for a new sharpener, but that would take many, many months.
I understand your concerns and I really hope this works out. Finally we will get to hear from someone how it works.
I have a 2007 chevy HD3500. I had a "60" gallon tank installed. It is prob 7 feet long and installs under the bed between the frame rails. had to adjust the sending unit, but still if I came to a stop going down a hill, the fuel could all run to the front, and stall the engine. It would take a bit to restart so I know it ran dry. I also have the Fass fuel system so at least I do not have to raise the hood to prime the stock suction fuel system. It sucked! :D the other issues with it is that when almost full, lots of foam comes up the filler tube. I can get another 5 gallons in if I am patient, but makes an occasional little mess on the slab frothing over. so I fill up at 1/4 tank and can get about 35 gallons in at that point. I think the usable volume is closer to 45 or 50 gallons. i get about 18 mpg on the highway, and 11 if pulling a 41 foot camper or 24K gooseneck.
some prob. remember me stopping on the hill at jeffs at the pig roast, and we pushed/coasted to the bottom flat area by the barn and it started back up.
I remember that pig roast and hearing about doc's downhill fuel tank... ;D
Well, my package now says it will arrive on the 18th. Of course I'm working OT that day, so I will have to wait til Saturday unless I have Cindy open the box and see whats in there.
I eBay purchased a Milwaukee M18 nailer, purchased being the key word. Inside of the Milwaukee box was an old HF air nailer. Contacted the seller and he pretended that something had happened and he would make it right. After a couple days of nothing I contacted eBay and they actually took care of me. He had to pay to return it, of course I chose the most expensive option and the extra pickup fee. There are some men you just can't reach.
I bought something from geekingn.com that was way to good to be true. I should have known better. they sent my a 20 cent pair of socks instead of a 5' york rake. took quite a while of back and forth to finally get my money refunded they offered to give me 60% of my money back because shipping cost them. I said to bad go after the shipper like everyone else. so finally after a bunch of back and forth they agreed to all my money back
what I have found is there are scams like that all over the place. they are using the scam money to finance the company running and hold on to the funds as long as they possibly can then give them back. since they do give them back they do not get reported and therefore stay under the radar.
beware, if anything looks like to good of a deal it is!!!!
I have always been quickly "made right" with faulty eBay purchases but Amazon will drag their feet on complaints. My Cabala's CapitalOne card and PayPal have always stepped up to the plate when I had an issue that seemed to be stalled. I recently had Amazon to contact me and ask that I contact them with any complaint and gave me their contact information after CapitalOne spanked them.
My experience with Amazon has always been first rate even when it was my fault. Maybe I have just been lucky. I have not used eBay so can't provide any eval on them.
I have never had a problem with Amazon and am a Prime member. My wife and I should be UltraPrime we order so much from them. When I need to send something back, I file through the website and they send you an email with a return label.
I have also bought a bunch of stuff on EBay and have had a couple of shenanigans. The key point is to always use paypal.
I have an old 11" delta lathe that I was buying accessories for to make it a complete set. There were 11" and 12" versions of the lathes and the parts looked similar, some were interchangeable. I told him I had an 11" lathe and the part looked like it was for a 12". He sent me a picture of the part with a ruler in front of the part at a deceptive angle and asked me what I thought. I told him it was what I thought, a 12" part. Then I reported him to EBay.
The other one was when I bought a fuel injector pump for my Kubota BX25. It was advertised as new and it certainly looked new when I got it. After installing it and finding that it didn't work(the tractor started but made a racket and had exhaust smoke), I got brave and took it apart. It had been reassembled incorrectly. I put it back together and the tractor ran fine. I decided to keep it as it was working and I was busy. But I did make a report to Ebay.
A guy that works for me suggested in the future that if I want to do a purchase like this again I do it thru ebay. Tell the seller the only way I will purchase it is if he puts it on ebay with buy it now price that we agreed upon and then I promptly buy it. That way it gets the buyer protection of ebay and easy way to exchange funds. It will be my policy.
I hope it shows up and is as described but I know some folks, myself included, wouldn't sell on fleabay for anything. Too much of a PITA and if a buyer complains about something, they always side with the buyer, it is good for buying stuff though.
Plus ebay charges a commission fee so in that scenario the seller would have to charge more than the original agreed upon price to be made whole.
The great majority of what I order can be found on eBay, cheaper, and with free shipping.
I very recently ordered a hand pump and fuel filter from Amazon for the Diesel transfer tank that I placed at the farm. Neither of the items were delivered and it was necessary for me to get CapitalOne involved to settle the claim. Amazon sent me an email stating that I would be credited within 3-5 days, but I was not credited two weeks later. CapitalOne immediately credited my account with the cost. That is when Amazon decided to send me the additional contact information that I mentioned above.
I then ordered both items from eBay for the same cost or cheaper with free shipping which reinforced my resolve to use eBay whenever possible and avoid Amazon.
I am not a seller of anything, only a buyer of what I need.
Never ran into anything that crazy on EBay that happened to Southside. But I've done it all on there as a seller and buyer. From cheap stuff to expensive stuff. For the most part everything runs smooth. I've seen it all with bids and buyers backing out on items that were several thousand dollars or if you make a offer on a item and it's usually a 48hr one and the seller sells it in that time frame to someone else that's a no no. The buyer protection or seller one is not all what it's cracked up to be. I've been on both ends and it's a process to put a claim in. What gets people moving is they get dinged and could loose privileges to sell. Basically it's 13% EBay takes on their cut if your the seller. It used to be it went to Pay pal and you were paid instantly when seller paid and EBay then sent a statement and charged seller fees now it's a whole different ballgame. They did away with that. And it's all through EBay. They have your checking account and they take everything out right away. And you wait several days to get paid. They are totally in the drivers seat!
Yeah, I understand it would be a hassle for the buyer. If he isn't interested then I'm not buying. I wouldn't do this with someone I know or if I'm going to meet this person for the sale. I've never tried selling on Ebay, but my guy who works for me used to run a business selling on Ebay.
It's official. I did something dumb. The blade sharpener was a scam. Be aware, sawmill accessories are being used as the bait for scammers. I got an email from the "shipper" saying that I needed to send them $500 for insurance on my shipment before they can complete the delivery. I will get that money back upon delivery.
hopefully your not out all of your money?
Called my bank as soon as I got the email. There is nothing I can do.
I despise a thief!
Do you know the address of where this guy lives? Maybe a FF member is close by and can pay him a visit :snowball:
I appreciate the sentiment, John. I do not have an address and I imagine the name that I have is not real.
Tell him you want to send him a UPS prepaid shipping label, so you need his physical address.
One of my coworkers said he ordered some lathe chisels from a website that seemed legit. He got a tracking number to show shipping. A few days later he receieved a small box with super hero stickers in it. He wondered where that came from, but didn't think it was related. A few days later when his chisels hadnt showed up he compared the tracking numbers. They were the same. The website was a scam and they just ship you something small so you don't become aware of the problem until it is too late to cancel payment.
I've heard of that scam before too. If you get a box with a lightbulb as a "free thank you gift from the seller", you just got hoodwinked. ::)
I had something similar happen to me. >:( It was an Amazon return of a DeWalt combo kit. Website looked legit. I got shipping updates and then a week later I got a "Lucky Box" with a few plastic 3-inch screwdrivers, a guitar pick, plastic tongs, and a small sleeve with a few screwdriver tips. Maybe $3 worth of stuff. After a few back-and-forth emails with their customer service, I just contacted my CC company and disputed the charge as a scam. After providing some documentation, the CC company refunded my money. 8)
I had a guy reverse charges on me one time after buying turf. It was almost 6 months. We had a signature from him, emails, texts, etc - didn't matter he claimed he didn't recall the 2400 lb purchase and they sent him back his money. My mistake was I keyed his card as it would not scan. Now if a card does not scan - give me a different one.
I don't buy online; I want to see and touch the product before I get my wallet out. Being north of the 49th it is more trouble and often more expensive than it is worth.
FFOTS, that is exactly what happened to me. What I figured out is part of the site that sells clothing seems legit, but they use the scam money from the other stuff to finance the entire operation. So their operation is fully funded by the scam. total floating operation.
I am still waiting for my money back but I have no doubt I will get it because if they don't and I go to the CC and enough ppl do that the company will get blacklisted. and then they will have to start over again.
I am a little reluctant to post this as I have received unkind comments from some members about similar incidents in the past but ...
Today was the first day of rifle rifle season. I had a very nice 6 point 10 yards from me yesterday but I could not draw on him with my bow without being heard (Probably my old joints popping and creaking) and seen so he got away. I went back there this morning with my rifle but he was a no-show today. I started out to my upper stand just after noon I started up to my upper stand. At a steep turn on the trail I chose the right fork instead of the left. A bucket sized rock was in the trail that I have been meaning to roll out of the way but I tried to drive past it on the upper side. The front left wheel of my ATV just missed it but the back one ran up on it and the ATV slid over on top of it and I guess it rolled and rolled the ATV. It landed upside down and I bounced off a few rocks seriously bruising my left side and scraping my scalp enough to draw blood. My rifle was slung across my back and it did not seem to do it any good especially the plug of mud in the end of the barrel. I ran the winch to a couple of trees and got the ATV flipped upright and loaded all the gear back in the front basket, went uphill to a spot I could turn around and went back home. Other than a little cracked plastic I did not see any obvious damage to the ATV.
I cleaned and doctored my scraped up gourd and took an 800 ml ibuprofen, then I cleaned and punched the bore on my rifle. I went back to the top of the pasture and fired a few test rounds through it from 100 yards to make sure I had not knocked the scope out of alignment. I made a few clicks adjustment but it would still have hit the kill zone on a whitetail at 100 yards. If anything it is shooting a tighter group than before. ::)
I'm glad that you and your equipment are okay. The young buck got a reprieve today, but you'll probably get another crack at him.
sounds like you need to upgrade to a UTV or side by side. your not getting any younger. Something with a roll cage could be beneficial.
Well if you get that little rascal you will have a good story and some tasty eating. Be safe!!!
Howard, Howard, Howard, you gotta take care of yourself man! That could have been a lot worse, especially since you were alone. I am glad you just have some bumps and minor cuts, but also hope when you wake tomorrow morning you don't find a new pain you didn't notice today.
Glad your gear survived, now you live to fight again another day. Try not to be in such a hurry. We don't want to hear any more stories like this, its not fun to learn of someone getting hurt. You got lucky.
A $100 helmet is cheaper than an ER visit... smiley_mc_helmet
Speaking as someone who had a mild concussion once (I didn't have a hard hat on). smiley_hardhat
Just to take some of the heat off Howard, I will confess to getting 'pretty lucky' today. I was drawknifing hard bark off a cherry slab in the shop getting ready to make another bench and I was 'getting into it' a bit. Tough bark in many places. At some point my left hand slipped off the handle whilst the right hand and handle kept moving, at speed. This caused the knife to pirouette (neat word) in the air and I first tried to control it as it pulled out of my right hand but then it completely cleared that hand also and was free spinning in the air following a gentle arc as it headed toward the concrete floor. All I could think of was 'my edge' and the damage it might take, so I made a desperate lunge with my left hand and managed to get my hand under it but I was a little too far forward with my hand. So instead of the blade coming to land in the palm of my hand it landed on the heel of my left thumb and slid neatly into the palm of my hand. I was pretty impressed with myself for having caught it right at the balance point (mid-blade) and since this all happened in the space of 3 seconds, thought I did pretty good. But then I felt a little sting and looked at the heel of my left thumb. Did I mention I like my draw knives to be very sharp? Yeah, as the blade deftly slid into the palm of my hand it also slid across the heel of my thumb and left a very fine red line. It didn't go very deep (I gotta sharpen that knife), but it does sting pretty good 3 hours later.
The good news is, the blade is just fine. Just like Howard's rifle.
Howard, I'm thankful you and the rifle are okay. That the atv survived too is good news.
Riding an atv in the mountains isn't always as easy as some might think. I've had some close calls here.
Heal quickly!
Tom, glad the drawknife didn't draw more than it did. Hope that sting goes away soon.
Thanks for the kind remarks and suggestions. To make things worse my cell phone popped out of my pocket and ended up under the handlebar. It cracked the outer glass but it is a flip phone and when I opened it the inside is okay so it still works fine.
I could not get a UTV up to this area if I had one. A roll cage would be nice though. I'm not sure about the full helmet but a bike helmet might be a good idea. The rollover basically happened from a complete stop and was not speed related.
Glad to hear you are OK, and in all seriousness maybe that's just not ATV ground.
A roll cage might make the ATV continue to roll, like to the bottom of the mountain!
Seriously, a roll cage will necessitate a seat belt like a ROPS on a tractor. Getting pinned under the roll cage would be an intolerable indignity.
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Yes, good to hear you're OK.
Accidents can happen while doing the simplest things. It's often when you're tired and/or in a hurry.
OGH
And you still have your thumb. Coulda been worse.
if the UTV will fit and has good tires it will go just as good as any ATV out there.
UTV won't fit.
Yikes Howard. Glad you didn't have to meet someone like me out there rescuing you. At least you had your phone and could have facilitated that had you needed it.
Tom, sometimes reflexes are not a great thing. I have a habit of trying to break the fall of things I drop too. I often will use my foot to break a fall. I dropped a jar of of jelly once at the firehouse and tried to catch it with my foot only wearing a flip flop. That sure hurt my foot and it still hit the ground and broke into a million pieces.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 21, 2022, 04:27:32 PM
I am a little reluctant to post this as I have received unkind comments from some members about similar incidents in the past but ...
Today was the first day of rifle rifle season. I had a very nice 6 point 10 yards from me yesterday but I could not draw on him with my bow without being heard (Probably my old joints popping and creaking) and seen so he got away. I went back there this morning with my rifle but he was a no-show today. I started out to my upper stand just after noon I started up to my upper stand. At a steep turn on the trail I chose the right fork instead of the left. A bucket sized rock was in the trail that I have been meaning to roll out of the way but I tried to drive past it on the upper side. The front left wheel of my ATV just missed it but the back one ran up on it and the ATV slid over on top of it and I guess it rolled and rolled the ATV. It landed upside down and I bounced off a few rocks seriously bruising my left side and scraping my scalp enough to draw blood. My rifle was slung across my back and it did not seem to do it any good especially the plug of mud in the end of the barrel. I ran the winch to a couple of trees and got the ATV flipped upright and loaded all the gear back in the front basket, went uphill to a spot I could turn around and went back home. Other than a little cracked plastic I did not see any obvious damage to the ATV.
I cleaned and doctored my scraped up gourd and took an 800 ml ibuprofen, then I cleaned and punched the bore on my rifle. I went back to the top of the pasture and fired a few test rounds through it from 100 yards to make sure I had not knocked the scope out of alignment. I made a few clicks adjustment but it would still have hit the kill zone on a whitetail at 100 yards. If anything it is shooting a tighter group than before. ::)
You seriously should think about wearing a helmet 🪖
Howard and Tom, glad to hear both of you guys are alright!
I made a similar mistake as Tom a few days ago when I dropped a box cutter. It was a new blade and I didn't want it to hit the floor so I grabbed at it like a dummy. It only barely got me but I quickly reminded myself that a freak out when I see others going to grab something sharp, and I should have kept that in mind for myself. It could have been a trip to the hospital to stitch up a few fingers.
It seems that I remember hearing that it is not wise to catch a falling knife.
When your sons significant others cat finds a glue trap you put out. While they are on a holiday trip and you are cat sitting for them.....
Luckily she lost one toenail and just has a really bad haircut. ::)
Glad you two are ok. Glad none of toys got severely damaged.
Quote from: caveman on November 22, 2022, 07:00:22 AM
It seems that I remember hearing that it is not wise to catch a falling knife.
Depending on geometry, you can get lucky. I figure it's a 50/50 shot. Back when I was 18 I was running a spot welder putting studs on 10' channel sections. The channel popped out of the track and headed for the floor so I reached for it and caught it with my left hand, which (you guessed it) was the hot side coming out. A freshly welded stud landed right between my 2 middle fingers at the web. Man, that hurt like the dickens for a long time. So after the cold water thing, wrapping it thick and putting on a leather glove, I was back at it. An hour later it jumped the track again. THIS TIME, I was 'smart'. I didn't use my left hand, I used my right. BUT I reached across my body and caught the channel of the hot side again. Matching burns. After I treated it, I quit for the day.
So I have gotten smarter over the years... a little anyway.
So now you only reach for sharp things and not hot things?
Nebraska, you may never have to cat sit again.
Tom and Howard
From the number of posts on here that you two have, I'm starting to think that going outside for you two should start with a helmet and padded suit with gloves! smiley_jester
Get better soon.
I don't think we are any different from any other average guy of our age. It's just that we tend to understand this happens to everyone and don't have hang-ups about admitting dumb moves like some folks seem to.
Besides, I find most of mine to be very minor. It's been a long time, maybe even months since I got close to having my bell rung or worse. ;D
Quote from: caveman on November 22, 2022, 07:00:22 AM
It seems that I remember hearing that it is not wise to catch a falling knife.
Reminds me of the time I thought a magnetic strip to hold my sharp knives was a good idea. Until I reached for one and bumped the handle enough to release it. Slipped through my hand as it fell. Removed that magnetic strip soon as I stopped the blood flow. Instinct is to grab a falling object.
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When I was cooking, I worked in a kitchen that had one but it was on the end of a counter and the blades went on with the handles up. The owner thought that the way in the pictured was too dangerous. I guess he was right.
After one instance, turned my knives around to "handle up".
All that I've seen advertised, show the handles down.
Made some wood blocks for knife storage now.
Wood block knife holder = minimum board footage, maximum value added project! smiley_thumbsup
Well, I had to sleep on the couch as it was too painful on the bed and could not turn on either side. I felt like there was a grating feeling this morning so called my PA only to find she has the flu and they suggested going to the ER as even if they gave me a form to get one there would not be anybody there at the office to read it until next week.
We went to the ER and I don't think my wife missed pothole or took any turn at less than 6 G's the whole way. They did an X-ray and confirmed ribs 8,9 & 10 were fractured so did a CT to make sure nothing was punctured or torn. Sounds like everything is intact so other than popping pain pills/Ibuprophin and maybe a heat pad on it there is nothing required except rest. We will see how that works out.
Could certainly have been a lot worse as my phone was thrown from my pocket and if I'd been pinned I could not have reached it. Nobody would have had any reason to look for me for at least half an hour or later after dark - about 6 hours away.
If the pain is bad, or not tolerating the pills, a pain guy like and anesthesiologist, can do a nerve block to stop the pain without pills. older folks can more easily get pneumonia as you need to take occasional deep breaths. It hurts to do that with broken ribs. pain may last weeks. you can collapse your lung at a later date as well so go in if you are suddenly SOB. no pun intended. :) (short of breath)
For real, make sure you rest for a while WV! Busted ribs suck.
Well, Howard, you sure have Tom and his thumb laceration beat. I'm glad you went to get checked out. As Doc said, potential lung issues are nothing to shrug off.
Dadburnit Howard! That hurts a lot! I broke several ribs 20 years ago in a mountain biking incident. I've had things hurt worse but I can't seem to recall any off hand.
Follow doctor's orders, rest and heal quickly!
Beenthere:
We have one of those over the counter, the key is to put the knives on handle side up.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 21, 2022, 08:26:30 PM
UTV won't fit.
Check out the honda pioneer 500. Less than 50" wide. I had one for a couple of years before I bought my big one. Will go anywhere a 4 wheeler will go.
Broken ribs. :( You will be doing better in 4 weeks. I did not say you will be up and running, just better.
Wife just got over 2 broken ribs. I have a post on here about hearing her go to bed at 9. :o
We slept with pillows between us. I am a thrasher and a turner sleeper. She did not want me to hit her. And I did not want to either.
We stayed home for about 3 weeks. We are the type that can spend all day in a car.
And yes, I hit every pothole there was too. :( Going in and out of parking lots was hard on her. Seem like they are all uneven.
Quote from: Patrick NC on November 22, 2022, 05:19:05 PMCheck out the honda pioneer 500. Less than 50" wide. I had one for a couple of years before I bought my big one. Will go anywhere a 4 wheeler will go.
That ain't what he needs. Howard needs
Training Wheels. ;D
Howard, really sorry to hear abut the ribs. I was afraid something like that might be the case when you alluded to your pain yesterday. The day after is when you really feel it. I've seen it in vehicle accidents more times than I can count. That's a very painful injury with a long recovery, especially at our age. I broke a posterior rib about 8 years ago and it took months before the point pressure pain went away. Keep a very close eye on yourself the first few weeks, as Doc said. Make those deep breaths a habit even though they can hurt. You got lucky, but weren't lucky enough, sorry.
I don't think you need a different ride or even training wheels. I think you just need to rethink the 'I can make it through there' attitude and remember the repercussions if something goes wrong (no help for hours or more). I started being more cautious in my mid 50's because I had a few wake up calls that I came out of clean, but could have gone very very wrong had luck been against me. I added on the fact that I was alone at the time or in a very remote areas with others and realized the folly of my decisions. I also think having responded to help a lot of folks having the worst day of their life may have helped me see what could happen to me one day. Either way, I gradually changed my thought process to take the safer choice every time and quit when I'm tired. It should be easy to change, but it's not and one has to work at it.
Take care and heal up. This one will take time, but at least it gives you an excuse to stay in and put your feet up and those cold and wet days that are coming.
I think a wheelie bar should be added to the training wheels. ;D
I think I posted way at the beginning of this thread about my ribs. I fell off some scaffolding and I thought I broke a few but were only bruised. I think it took about 2 or 3 weeks to get to the point that sneezing or coughing didn't make me cry. Then it just made me wince from the pain for another week or two. Messed up ribs suck!
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I think a wheelie bar should be added to the training wheels. ;D
Speed was not a factor. In this case I ran up on a rock on a slope and it teetered the wrong way. In fact, if I could have gotten traction and powered on through I might not have turned over.
Ljohn,
Don't even talk about sneezing or coughing or hiccups. I have tried a time or two to clear my throat and it is not for the faint of heart.
We did stop and we got a weighted electric heat pad on the way home from the ER. I can't swear it is helping but it sure feels a lot better -until I move. ::)
Back in the day, broken rib(s) patients wore a corset. My broken ribs episode was the result of falling off of and being run over by a trailer loaded with firewood. If we had been going slower I would have been crushed instead of bounced over. 12 & 15 year olds thinking that we were cats with 9 lives. :-X
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 22, 2022, 09:53:11 PMLjohn, Don't even talk about sneezing or coughing or hiccups.
I inherited a "condition" from my mom. I'll have sneezing fits where I'll sneeze between 10 and 30 times in 5 minutes or less. That happened a couple times during recovery. The only thing that has ever hurt worse was root canal that the pain killer didn't work!
I cracked a rib in a coughing fit like last year or something, still have a bit of trepidation about coughing sometimes. I've read that having a pillow near by to grab and hug when you have to cough helps, so I tried and for whatever reason it does indeed seem to help. I would also attempt to kind of hold everything together (corset style as mentioned above) and that seemed to help too but the pillow seemed to work the best.
Howard, I became more empathetic when I learned you broke your ribs. Six or seven years ago, I was doing somethings DUMM. I said somethings because it involved horses, "free" Zebu cattle (spawn of Satan) and a lariat. Anyway, after loading 50 plus head of these diminutive savage beasts and several hours later on a Sunday night, I walked next door to check on my folks and possibly get some sympathy. I remember asking my mother how long I could expect my ribs to hurt when I breathed (she broke some in a bicycle wreck years ago). Her reply was six weeks. I was trying to figure out how to hold my breath that long.
IJohnsaw, I also have frequent sneezing fits. This condition makes having cracked ribs an experience most would rather avoid. WV, I hope your convalescence is as quick and painless as possible.
It was found that the rib brace increases the pneumonia complication. you can use a sense pillow to "splint" the area for a cough. cough and deep breathing help prevent stuff building up and increasing chance for pneumonia. think of the heart pillow they give open heart surgery patients after surgery. slow deep breaths or incentive spirometry help but may cause coughing. pneumonia and pneumothorax (collapsed lung) are your worries now. consider the nerve block if you have a pain doc around.
Thanks doc for the explanation about why a corset is no longer used. I'm kinda glad that they were used when I was 12yo.
I've broke or cracked ribs twice it's absolutely awful. First time I flipped a skid steer over backwards, piledriving myyself into the top of the cab. That was the day before thanksgiving and I couldn't take a deep breath or cough without pain until mid February. Sneezing or laughing would just about bring involuntary tears to my eyes. Second time I was bear hugging a tire trying to put a plug in the backside pulling it towards myself and felt it crack. Took about a month for that one to get halfway back to normal.
I hope you heal up quick. Its certainly not fun.
The details of caveman's story sound like they would make for excellent entertainment around a bonfire at a Project or Pig Roast.
worst pain should be the first two weeks, 6 weeks to heal depending on how distracted they are. i have dx. bruised ribs based on no x-ray finding, but pt. coughed and was back in 2 hours with sob and increased pain. then could see the fx. and small pneumothorax. may have minor pain for months, but not usual. lots of narcotics, can also increase chance of pneumonia. If you are old, risk goes up. over 75 and two rib fx, may get you in the hospital for a few days. Please bring all rib fx. x-rays to the pig roast as suggested, it will add to the presentation. :snowball: :)
My tractor and I escaped without lasting damage but, other than the hand of The Almighty, it could have been different.
I have a light grading job to correct a drainage problem in my side yard. Several weeks ago I used the turning plow to redirect water as a preliminary effort. I wanted to see how it worked prior to completing the grading.
Today I thought I would refine things a bit. Where the turning plow had rolled the sod over, I thought I would use the bucket on the tractor to push it down the hill.
When I pushed it down the hill all was good, except I underestimated the amount of material. I rotated the bucket and lifted it, it was full and had pushed a pile of dirt and sod in front of it.
Here is where it went wrong, I continued forward, ran up on to the pile of excess dirt and sod with the left tires. I'm on a slope in two directions, in front of me and to the right.
As you can imagine the tractor pitched to the right. I did have the presence of mind to turn to the right and accelerate slightly.
But the tractor teetered there for a very long moment before bouncing back on all four tires.
I've come close to turning a tractor over a time or two. This one was as close as I've come. I do not know why that tractor isn't on its side. It should have been.
For the safety minded, ROPS in place and in good condition and I wear my seatbelt as a habit.
So no damage and no injury to anything but the shorts I was wearing.
Yikes you guys. Quit trying to out-do each other.
Suspect when you turned downhill it was slow to react due to the uphill wheel not having traction. Need the presence of mind to apply the uphill wheel brake a tad to restrict it from just spinning with no ground contact, and that will switch power/traction to the downhill side wheel and move to the direction you turned.
Glad you came out okay. Don't believe the "shorts" thing happened. It is just a saying.
Glad you stayed "Shiney side up" (old saying). ;)
I've stood my tractor up on 2 wheels more than once, and even had it on 1 wheel once pulling a tree. After that one I had to stop and give myself a safety lecture. ::)
More than once I have been carrying a log in my grapple and found a wheel of my small tractor off the ground on uneven terrain. So I carry the logs as low as I can and with the grapple tilted back toward the driver to lessen the leverage the log has. Yay for 4 wheel drive.
Decided to cut a pretty big white oak today that got damaged by a brush pile fire and is dying.Notched it and started cut on backside.Before I could get wedges in it pinched my bar.As usual it turned into a all day job.Just spent $130 dollars on saw a few months ago from my last escapade.Went and got a ladder straps,chains,cables,come a long after trying to jack it over with one of those tall farm jacks which I bent.Got a cable around it about 12' up and stretched it over to a large stump and started cranking come a long.Saw came loose and I breathed a sigh of relief.Pulled all I could stand and drove every wedge I had in backside.Was getting late,shoulder hurting so I did something I normally would never do.I picked up and when to the house.Tree is still standing.Maybe I'll get lucky and a strong north wind will take it on over but I doubt it.What a fellow will do for entertainment :'(
Quote from: SawyerTed on November 23, 2022, 09:35:55 AM
The details of caveman's story sound like they would make for excellent entertainment around a bonfire at a Project or Pig Roast.
I plan to be at Jake's. WDH and I talked about traveling to a pig roast together, but I still plan to make it up there after I retire. I am at the point of writing minus, plus or neutral on the calendar after each workday to help me determine if I'll retire after this year.
The characters in the zebu story are me, Daniel the intern, his wife the nurse, Douglass the coworker, Dennis the 70 something year old cowboy, Houston the 6' 4" ABAC student and employee of the guy (Rob) who was giving us the cattle, 54 cattle, Clyde the cur dog and a few horses.
It's cows and horses, what could possibly go wrong? :D
You may get lucky and have it on the ground come daylight. When I was falling timber, I had a hemlock set back on me at the end of the day before I could get a wedge in it. There I was stuck and no way to get out. I removed the power head from the bar and stashed it out of reach of the tree. I packed a spare bar and chain in with me the next day in order to knock it over with another tree. To my surprise, in the the morning, it was on the ground right where I faced it to go. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
Tree still standing this morning.Wasn't going to fool with it today being it's Thanksgiving but my DIL said she would cook this year and give me a break.Dinner's not till 4:00 so I cooked breakfast and headed out.Hooked up a second cable ran it through a snatch block and hooked another come a long on another tree off to the side.Pulled pretty hard but when it came down it came down fast.Probably good thing it didn't come down yesterday because like a fool I was in fall zone where I was pulling thinking it would break over slow and I would have time to get out of the way.Getting to old to take those kind of risks.Need to make a note to myself.Howard, I hope you heal up quickly.I've never cracked any ribs and hope I never do.
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WLMedley,
Glad to see that monster on the ground and nothing wiggling under it. I once cut a big poplar that pinned down an old pregnant nanny goat. I had checked before cutting it nothing was in the area but she walked up while I was sawing. When I spotted her under it I ran over and cut it off her and she had no serious or permanent injuries and delivered and raised a healthy pair of kids a couple months later.
A couple of lessons learned or reminders from this incident is that if you have broken ribs or major surgery where they cut open a lot of muscle (I am thinking back to being medivaced from Afghanistan to Dubai and having my gall bladder removed and a cyst removed from my kidney leaving a 6" incision to heal which is the closest I can relate to this) is that pillows are your friends. They can be great to take pressure off and support sore areas to keep them from sagging or stretching or such.
Another lesson is your diet. Plan ahead about what you eat and drink. In my case I have had less appetite so I have been eating less and moving around a lot less which means the pipes don't get rattled around as much or the food mix shaken up as much as normal and, possibly combined with the meds - I don't know if 800 mg Ibuprophen is just a mixture of cheese, peanut butter and bananas squeezed into a pill - the plumbing tends to get clogged up. There are other things that hurt besides coughing, hiccups, sneezing and burping. ::) Be sure you drink plenty of water and fresh fruit juices (Grape and prune juice are good selection), eat plenty of high fiber and shy away from any foods that act like mini-beavers swimming around damming up all the culverts and drainage in your body.
Fortunately when I had my gall bladder and kidney surgery before I was in an area with plenty of high fiber Arabic, Indian and Pakistani foods that I liked like Hummus, Ful, Daal, etc. so I never realized how helpful they were for my recovery.
I can kinda sorta punch a hole in a rope and throw it, did manage to catch one today actually, I am not going to make the PBR anytime soon as a mounted bull fighter, but it never occurred to me to throw a tree to catch errant livestock.
That could really add a new dimension to the rodeo. Stihl could advertise for chaps, instead of mutton bustin kids could swing a thinning saw. It just might work. :D
A fellow I used to work with years ago told a tale about cutting a tree down on his wife.The way he told it he was cutting a tree and his wife went over and stood by his truck thinking that would be the safest place to be.Evidently it wasn't because the tree fell across the bed of his truck pinning her somewhere between truck and the ground.She set in giving him a good tongue lashing and he told her if she didn't shut up he wasn't going to cut it off of her.I asked did she get hurt and he said it only broke her arm :-\
Haven't run the D17 since the last snow this spring, so "Elvis" Chalmers needed a little extra juice to pop. Finally, after work, in the dark and rain, he decided to catch. In my excitement I ignored the first three clanging sounds, and raised the loader, ready to drive out of the holes he'd sunk into over the summer before the ground freezes, (tomorrow night, low of 14.)
Turns out, those noises were somebody's winter stash of hickory nuts bouncing back and forth between the fan and the...
:D :D :D
Well told and written. :D Hope that radiator is OK.
Take cover boys! We've got incoming with shrapnel! :D
I had that problem in the clutch housing on my UTV. hickory nuts sound terrible when getting destroyed in there. sounds like engine exploding.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on November 29, 2022, 07:24:21 PM
:D :D :D
Well told and written. :D Hope that radiator is OK.
It was running on stop leak as it was. The aftermarket one is $349 off of eBay vs $568 for the "approved fit."
On the plus side, I was able to catch about 6 quarts of coolant! :snowball:
Murphy caught up with me on Wednesday afternoon. While what I did wasn't "dumb" exactly, what happened was dumb.
My shop has been a mess for some time. Despite that, I bought a Woodmaster 718 planer/molder. Before installing the planer I have been cleaning up. I have a 24'x30' shop with 14x30 sheds on the sides. Across from the shop I have a prefab 12x20 storage building. The storage building has a ramp on the front and double doors.
Some items in the big shop have to be transferred either temporarily or permanently to the storage building to make room to clean up and rearrange the big shop.
Wednesday afternoon I was moving some sawmill tools to the storage. I was standing the ramp, holding two cant hooks in my right hand and digging for the key in my pocket with my left hand. The ramp was damp and apparently slick from the rain earlier in the day.
My feet slipped and I fell hard on the wooden ramp. At the time it wasn't so bad. I got up and continued to work. This morning I feel like I have been hit by a truck.
I don't think anything specific is damaged but sore from my right hip to my neck and a pretty big bruise on my hip if which I will refrain from posting pictures :o :D
I'll heal but my morning project is to install cleats on the ramp, if I can bend enough.
sorry man, that delayed response can really get ya. Kind of like Howard's rib issue. Slick wood is really tough. I too have a small ramp on the storage shed and I have to be very careful all the time.
Feel better man.
OUch. Man, that wet wood will surprise you sometimes. Several years ago I was trying to move a cedar log on my trailer. Of course the trailer deck was set. My feet slipped out from under and my face went right into the log. Hit the bridge of my nose right on the corner of the log end. Was seeing stars and bleeding from a cut. I'm sure I posted that here when it happened. Hope you feel better soon.
Have had to go to the chiropractor lately as my back has been acting up, pain down the legs, etc basically same stuff, different day. Nothing like when I got hurt, but it happens.
Well, had a first calf heifer that would not go into the milking barn the other day, she was in the pen, but refused to cooperate, so I figured we would put a halter on her and she would calm down. Would not stand for that so I grabbed my rope, punched a hole in it and headed her. Now normally in a small area, with a heifer that has been handled, I can just set my feet and she isn't going anywhere, at most to the end of the rope. Well, we have finally started to get rain so the ground is soupy. I planted my feet in the mud and she took me mud skiing, bound and determined not to let go that lasted until my feet came out from under me and the sky and ground inverted.
Came down on my right shoulder hard, in the mud, and now mad. The good part was when I got up, still holding the rope, I herd a bunch of "snap, crackle, pop" right up my spine better than any adjustments the DR has ever done. I was instantly limber and the leg is pain free, mostly because it got scared and transferred to the shoulder I suspect.
Told my wife we need to open a "Cowrowpractor" practice and get these girls to make some real money for us. :D
SS,
I believe all that tale except the part about the mud skiing. 'Fess up. I have been around cattle barns and dairies and such. It was fresh cow manure wasn't it? :D Hope there is no permanent damage. It is quick and easy to get hurt around large, scared animals in tight spaces,
Ted,
If you have some old shingles laying around and aren't worried about the cosmetics involved, they are great for providing traction on places like that. I have an 8' ramp going to one of our shooting houses and I lad 3 of them down end to end on it and they work great on the snow and ice and mold that wants to build up there. I hope there is nothing but temporary bruising.
I did something similar 20 or 25 years ago. Back when I was lighter, faster, stronger and a bit dumber. I roped a young polled Hereford calf, only thing is she was in a trot when I got her. The rope made her turn on the jets!
The ensuing aerial backflip was impressive according to the "audience"! :D :D It is something I never had done previously or since.
I just got home from your neighborhood Ted. Big Sis and BIL both went up to the observation tower on Moore's knob yesterday morning and both slipped on the icy rocks up there, luckily soft landings. Happily, I twisted an ankle a week ago and declined to leave the cabin. First time we have all been able to get together in over 2 years. You live in a nice area, and the roads around the north side equal ours. It did make me flash back to the last time I was there, amazingly long time ago. It was the day before SAT's and we went climbing. On the way back I got a bum slim jim from a dusty country store. I thought it was nerves but bubbleguts ensued about halfway through the math part of the test... which I probably would have flunked anyway :D
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For the dumb thing, the ankle. A need for some 6x6's to stack some wood on at work, there was one with a lag screw dangling out of its side. We proceeded to stack lumber. As I walked by the 6x6 my shoelace snagged that dangling lag and rolled my ankle. Be careful out there, for me it usually isn't the big dangers, I see them, its the dumb little mistakes.
This Moore's Knob?
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Didn't like the drama in the video or the dubbed music, but with sound off there were some good scenery. Beautiful spot. Think was 50 years ago now, but if the same then it was enjoyed.
You could try 100 times to get that shoe lace to hook the lag and miss every time, but well you know the rest of the story.
That's it, looks like I had to come home to make it to the top :D. It was very clear when my Sister and BIL got to the top. She easily saw Grandfather Mt and from her description I'm pretty sure she was seeing Mt Rogers and Whitetop, around 100 miles. At that tower they were about level with the house here up on the Blue Ridge,
Yes, Stokes County and Hanging Rock State Park are hidden gems here in the Northwest Piedmont of NC. We can see Moore's Knob from our deck as well as cook's wall. Along with Pilot Mountain, HSP is among the most visited state parks we have. Forget getting a weekend camp site without reservations well ahead.
We've had just enough freezing weather to make slick spots on the trails in the shade.
@Don P (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17) hope the ankle mends quickly.
The park and most of the amenities like the lake bath house and the lake dam etc were built by the Civilian Conservation Corps. All the stone was quarried in the park. I've been visiting since 1972 and the park itself is mostly unchanged with the exception of the campground and a modern visitor center.
In recent years several large parcels of land have been added making the Park in excess of 8,000 acres.
Was setting a 6x6 white oak for a gate post yesterday. Pulled the old post, dug out the loose soil from the bottom of the hole and was now ready to drop a new post in. Stood the post up, gave it a bear hug to lift and started to give it a body slam down into the hole. Just as I did the side wall of the hole caved and my left foot slid into the hole. The post went right where it was supposed to and had an encounter with my foot in the hole on the way. Then, since I went down and released the post I was laying there with my foot in the hole and the post fell over and landed on my arm. Well I need new laces for my boots, ice for my foot, and heating pad for my bruised forearm. Good thing it is cold and raining today so I can recover without going out to try it again.
Rhody,
Please don't make me laugh! I am still suffering from my 3 broken ribs from last week then I get the picture of you sitting there trying to explain to someone why you have one leg stuck down in a posthole with a 6X6 white oak post on top of it. :D I know it's not funny and I am sorry to hear you got banged up but it would take some explaining. ;) It sounds like something I would have done.
Holy cow Rhodemont! Were you ever a ghost writer for Pat McManus? :D
Truly I am sorry for your injury, lucky you didn't break that ankle. But reading your post I had tears in my eyes. Hope you feel better tomorrow.
Part of me wants to say "no pictures, it didn't happen", but in this case I'll let that slide. Feel better man.
I think I saw the same thing happen once in an episode of the 3 stooges. :D
Yep, I am laughing about it myself. Mariann just rolled back her eyes with that "What you do now" look. WV, only thing worse would have been if it fell over on my body rather than my arm. Old G, wish I did have a video of it. I would send it in for the pilot of the next generation of Stooges.
Quoteso I can recover without going out to try it again.
Good idea, sometimes it's best to re-think and re-group before re-trying and possibly re-injuring. (Or so I've heard). :-X
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 22, 2022, 12:47:59 PM
Well, I had to sleep on the couch as it was too painful on the bed and could not turn on either side. I felt like there was a grating feeling this morning so called my PA only to find she has the flu and they suggested going to the ER as even if they gave me a form to get one there would not be anybody there at the office to read it until next week.
We went to the ER and I don't think my wife missed pothole or took any turn at less than 6 G's the whole way. They did an X-ray and confirmed ribs 8,9 & 10 were fractured so did a CT to make sure nothing was punctured or torn. Sounds like everything is intact so other than popping pain pills/Ibuprophin and maybe a heat pad on it there is nothing required except rest. We will see how that works out.
Could certainly have been a lot worse as my phone was thrown from my pocket and if I'd been pinned I could not have reached it. Nobody would have had any reason to look for me for at least half an hour or later after dark - about 6 hours away.
Well Howard, at least you will have plenty of time to keep up with our new coach's activities while you recuperate!
My oh shoot moment is minor compared to some of yours, especially Howards, but still very annoying. I started my day by dropping a freshly opened can of coffee. :'( I salvaged most of it, the coffee is lump free and tastes ok but still.
I went back and read the original post in this thread. Sawguy21, spilled coffee is very much in the same league as that first post.
Ted, that was very naive me with my very new to me sawmill. Little did I expect that post would have thousands of replies 3 years later. I guess it's all about the title of the thread.
This is an awesome thread and it puts things in perspective. We don't need to lose sight of that. :D :D
and 80% is Howard, Tom and... :o oh should we not mention names? :D :D :D
:D :D :D :D
Now just hold on there a cotten' pickin' second! Neither Howard, nor I, nor several other 'regular contributors' here constitute 80% of the 'alleged incidents' or anywhere approaching that. You don't even mention MM, who has performed epically in this particular set of 'skills' with very graphic documentation even. I just went back several pages to do a quick study and a simple check reveals that Howard and I both run around a 6 week MBTF (Mean Time Between Failures) rate (worst case) and the rest is carried by many others who may (or may not) have a longer MTBF themselves. There is also the question of who is confident enough to admit their 'mis-thoughts' and who keeps them to themselves. While I admit that Howard's situations tend to be more colorful and involve either more expense or physical pain then mine, which are usually very minor and of little consequence, we are by no means THE major contributors here.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. ;D :D
I mean really. Why, I haven't been treated for an injury (besides chiro work) by a medical professional since 1988, and even that is not worth mentioning. I challenge somebody to read all 66 pages here and made a spreadsheet of incidents and lets all see who the winners(?) are. popcorn_smiley popcorn_smiley sling_shot
The only two dumb things I did this year that didn't result in serious injury but certainly could have were falling off the tongue of my trailer, with one leg on each side of the frame rail and later, felling the remaining ~16' of a standing cherry tree with little to no escape route.
The trailer incident, I was alone in the woods and didn't think twice about stepping on the dry rail as I have thousands of times but for some reason I went down. Luckily I was off the gravel and in the grass/brush but the first thing I did was make sure I could reach my phone as I was certain I broke my arm, leg or both. By the grace of God, I was only a little beaten up and not even very sore the next day but I could have easily bonked my head on the side of the trailer and would have been found cold several hours later.
The cherry broke off ~16' up from wind and had been weakened by bug damage, most of the surrounding branches had been cut into firewood & hauled off or throw onto ground where they'd decompose faster. I started cut in a humboldt to give me a couple extra inches on the log when it would be milled, that went fine but I couldn't see the far side of my felling cut and it was off by a little. Turns out it was off by enough, both my wedges were being swallowed as I pounded them resulting in almost no movement of the trunk. I undershot my face cut by almost 2" on the far side (should have taken pictures to remind me what not to do) so I had to cut almost 6" deeper than I should have to get it down. I also had no where to go except diving into the bottom of the rocky creek bottom of which I was already standing on the very slick & steep bank. The trunk likely wouldn't have rolled slighly uphill to slide down on top of me, but there was plenty of other trees/crap that could have possibly directed it my way.
Well, I took a turn this afternoon. Sadly, its not the first or second time I've done it. I stapled and glued the cabinet back panel onto the front of the cabinet. Dad was helping me and we did the first 3 just right. The fourth one I had to do something to the front first and then forgot to flip it over. The only saving grace was that I only put about 5' worth of staples in before I realized my folly. I was able to knock it off from the inside with minor damage to the plywood. Of course I had to clean all of the glue off of the whole front and then flip the cabinet over and do it right. I will be happy when this project is done. I need a break and to do some smaller projects for a while.
A few weeks back, I welded the wings on my splitter 4 way with a perfect 5 degree upwards angle. Except I had the vertical wedge clamped in the vise upside down at the time. I noticed it after the final welding pass on the second wing.
I moved on to other things that day. It's still sitting there. Ive been putting off cutting them off to repair. I seriously considered leaving it that way, except the back hits the frame first so there's about a 1/2" gap under the wing in the fully lowered position that will make all kinds of trash. What really ticks me off is I knew enough that I only tacked it first then double checked the angle before welding it solid. So I had two chances to get it right, and I blew both of them.
Could you weld a ramp in front of the wings on the beam?
Tom if you divide Magic mans "Mistakes" by his age, he hardly ever make a mistake! :)
Maybe Jeff will make the number of incidents the way to win the Christmas contest. Tom remember it is not a contest! (but if it was, you might win!) ;D
Actually for now I have healed and scared over and actually am not presently wearing a Bandaid. ;D
That plus I have not left a toe board up since last Wednesday. ::)
Was worried about this thread running out of material and not being able to keep going so... :D
...speaking of toeboards, I'm really good about lowering them as a rule, however...
On my mill they are manual, meaning there is a removable hand crank you use to raise and lower them. Turns out if you leave the crank engaged in the toeboard, it will stick out and the mill will hit it and abruptly stop while sawing... (twice in the last two days.) :D
See, these posts following my last make my point, we all do dumb stuff. Some causes pain, some incurs extra costs, some are just frustrating or embarrassing, and some cause serious injury or the possibility of such.
The purpose is to learn from others and be reminded that we are all one brain fart away from getting hurt.
You're right Doc, it's not a contest, but if we had a blizzard come in and I had nothing to do, I would go through the over 3200 posts in this thread and make a scorecard to see who is leading the race. It would be interesting, but I need to make some money first.
Personally I have my own guesses and Howard did not make the cut, nor did I. MM usually does it in a big way that deserves it's own thread so they don't count here. Yeah if we figured it averaged out by age. MM, Howard, and myself are probably all low runners, with MM at the bottom.
For the record I have not left up a toeboard ruining even one board since April because I changed my habits, learning from others here. 8)
@Resonator (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=37685) I really don't think you have a lot to worry about, this bunch can be quite creative.
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Was worried about this thread running out of material and not being able to keep going so... :D
...speaking of toeboards, I'm really good about lowering them as a rule, however...
On my mill they are manual, meaning there is a removable hand crank you use to raise and lower them. Turns out if you leave the crank engaged in the toeboard, it will stick out and the mill will hit it and abruptly stop while sawing... (twice in the last two days.) :D
Glad to see that I am not the only sllooowwww learner!
GAB
:) :) :) :D :D :D
Quote from: sawguy21 on December 06, 2022, 08:16:15 PM
@Resonator (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=37685) I really don't think you have a lot to worry about, this bunch can be quite creative.
Reminds me of a poster I made in college print class:
"It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because idiots are so ingenious"
Doug in SW IA (and I do resemble that remark)
And some see the claim "foolproof" as a challenge... :D
Also remember in the entertainment business great comedy is often a series of mistakes done in a funny way. smiley_thumbsup ;D
a comedy of errors!
Shakespearian!
Remember - The Titanic was touted as unsinkable!
(As to other comments above, at least I still have all my body parts even if some have been stitched back together and grown back together in a couple of - okay, a few - cases.)
I wouldn't worry too much fellas. I'm convinced that the only reason some of you wrack up more dumb things is that you are doing more than most of us.
My dumb things are almost entirely based on ignorance and poor planning. Thusly, I waste a lot of time, effort, and materials making something that could've been made much better.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on December 07, 2022, 01:13:07 PM
Remember - The Titanic was touted as unsinkable!
(As to other comments above, at least I still have all my body parts even if some have been stitched back together and grown back together in a couple of - okay, a few - cases.)
But the H-4 Hercules wasn't supposed to fly.... BTW, the Spruce Goose was made of birch. :o
Birch goose doesn't rhyme.
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 07, 2022, 07:24:54 PMSpruce Goose was made of birch
I bet you were careful on the spelling of that last word!! :D smiley_jester
many flitches of Birch! say that three times fast! :snowball: :o :)
Ted,
I did not know about the Hercules but I think I read according to the scientists a bumblebee should not be able to fly either.
QuoteSpruce Goose was made of birch.
Looked it up, interestingly it was actually made of plywood. According to what I read, the veneers were made in a factory an hour away from me in Marshfield WI. :P
The Spruce Goose was built using birch in a process called Duramold. While some poplar was used, birch and birch plywood were combined with phenolic resin and pressed under heat in the molds.
The H-4 was a fabric over wood (Duramold) construction because while it was designed and built during WWII aluminum was reserved for the war.
The plane was intended to be a transport for WWII but wasn't completed until 1947. It flew one low level flight.
Anyway, Howard's (ours, not Hughes) comment about the Titanic made me think of the "un-flyable" Spruce Goose. :D
Talk about a thread taking a "bird walk" :D
I left the door open last sat night when we had a snow storm. ::)
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Log piles a little low, but, will fix that later, Had some company.
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There was some interesting experimenting going on back then, I'm not sure why stuff dropped away or if it is worth dipping back and re-looking, much was done at the Forest Products Labs. There was Impreg and Compreg going on, I remember airplane props of high density veneers, I'm sure much more, some neat stuff.
I don't think I would want to fly on a plane with props made out of snow Don. :D
I'm generally about a day late :D
Do we plane oak decking today or try to beat the snow and pour ::)
Well I read this thread sometimes and laugh along with you guys but it is rude not to share with the class.
Was winching a log grapple and some other good stuff out of a guy's junk pile onto my double axle abuse trailer after dark the other night. Went to move the little 4500lb winch mounted on a pintle hitch receiver plate from one side of the trailer to a pocket on the other side. When I got over there I was moving a little too fast and stepped onto the forward trailer tire (the fenders are, uhm, missing). Tire wasn't on the ground! Did not get hurt -- stayed mostly upright but wife says I am not ready for a log drive in the river just yet... The bearings are pretty smooth ;D
My niece asked for some wood to give to her boyfriend as a Christmas present. I found some walnut and a little red oak in the kiln that I thought he might like. There was a live edge slab piece that I thought he might use as a little table top. It had a warped end so I went to cut it off with a circ saw before I sent it thru the planer. I've had cuts close up on the blade before, but this was ridiculous. It became stuck in there. I had to take the blade off and put a different blade back on and cut from the other side to free this one. A little stress in this piece Id say.
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Might want to check the MC in the middle of that slab. Walnut is known for water pockets and that closing is textbook case hardening.
Just checked, Moisture is less than 7%. I think it has to do with the fact that the end I cut off was a big knot that had bowed up in drying.
Just as an update I discovered today that after exactly 4 weeks from breaking my ribs I am finally able to sneeze. ::) Up to this point every sneeze would abort about halfway. I'm not saying it doesn't hurt because it does but being able to sneeze is a big improvement.
Howard, it's Christmas time no Snow white and the seven dwarfs time.
Glad to hear you are healing Sneezy. ;D
How many of us saw he posted and said: "Uh-oh, now what he done...?" :D
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on December 14, 2022, 04:55:26 PM
My niece asked for some wood to give to her boyfriend as a Christmas present. I found some walnut and a little red oak in the kiln that I thought he might like. There was a live edge slab piece that I thought he might use as a little table top. It had a warped end so I went to cut it off with a circ saw before I sent it thru the planer. I've had cuts close up on the blade before, but this was ridiculous. It became stuck in there. I had to take the blade off and put a different blade back on and cut from the other side to free this one. A little stress in this piece Id say.
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Needs more cow bell!
On the ribs. That is what I posted in reply 3220. ;D
Glad to hear you are better.
This morning my wife handed me her phone and asked if I could help her with an online order she was trying to make.
I had bought her a gift card and she was having trouble entering in the pin number for the card.
It would not work for me at all.
I pressed on "live chat" and when through all the problems with the agent. The more we tried the worst it got.
We (my wife and I) canceled the order and hung up with the agent.
So, I told her to make sure when she goes to Bed, Bath and Beyond that they ok the card before she picks out a bunch of stuff to buy.
She said she'd go to the store in the Mall.
I told her that I didn't get the gift card at the store in the mall.
The store in the mall, was Bath and body works.
That was the store that I was supposed to buy the gift card from. We finally figured out why the gift card wouldn't work.
My error, again.
She can still use the card, just need to buy from a different store than she wanted to go to.
Jim Rogers
Jim, I hope you and your wife are at least laughing about it now. :)
Very simple mistake to make. Both stores have the word bath in them. Both stores smell like perfume and I don't like to go in either one.
Kind of like trying to use your Lowes card in the gas pump or at the grocery store checkout. :D :D
If that's the biggest mistake you made this year you guys have done real good. ;)
I believe that these two guys may be confused ?? :D
Steve and Jeff Visit Bed Bath and Beyond - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7yLxn2IqsU)
To make it worse I heard Jeff was looking for the parts to rebuild his Mustang. ::) :D :D
@firefighter ontheside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921) I laughed at your comment because my wife loves both of the stores and the only difference to me is that one is larger so the smells has more air to work through before they make my nose stuffy!
What does one decorate their "Beyond" room with? ;D
Beyond all help?
I once took a auto part core to AutoZone when it needed to go to Advance Auto one block over.
I don't know, the man cave is in the back of beyond. I decorate it myself, kind of late "beyond the pale".
Reminds me of a close friend who had a sporting goods store in downtown Madison (State St.). Hired college students for store clerks. A customer came in and asked a young female clerk if they had cups. She responded "No, but there is a Steep-n-Brew next door".
:snowball:
My farm/sawmill banking account is at one bank and my personal account is at another. I carried a sawmilling check and deposit slip to the wrong bank. She looked at it, looked at me, and asked; what do you want me to do with this? :-X
We have a number of gas station and quick stop chains in the area. Last August I tried to redeem my "birthday points" from Speedway at the local Kwik Trip. It had me and the clerk both scratching our heads for a few minutes until we read the not-so-fine print.
It's amazing how sensitive spending time in the great outdoors can make your sense of smell.
We used to go on week and a half backpacking trips in mountains with groups of Boy Scouts. When we came out, we could smell what laundry detergent and fabric softener people used as they approached us from 50 feet away with no wind.
My turn, again. After lunch John and I went back out to edge a pile of flitches left from this morning's sawing. He went to grab his earmuffs and they were not anywhere to be found. I mentioned that I'd seen them on the flitches before lunch. I found them after I had smooshed them with a telehandler tire. They must have fallen off as I was moving the pile on the forks back over to the mill. His earmuffs were nice, comfortable Husqvarnas. Mine are cheap but relatively effective but not nearly as comfortable as his. I had considered getting some like his until I saw the price. I may buy two pairs when I go get his replacement set.
Tom,
Was the 50' away because that is as close as they would get to you after you had been spending a couple of weeks in the woods? :D
Lynn,
Your bank story reminds me of a few weeks back when I went to make a deposit in out local bank to our checking account. We have used a credit union for 40 years or so and have our retirement checks auto deposited there then write a check from it to our local bank as needed to keep a better handle on our funds and to use local businesses. Anyway a few weeks back I forgot and wrote the check for deposit on the same account. I.e. "I can't be out of money, I still have checks in my checkbook".
When the lady saw the check on her bank and asked me what I wanted to do with it I realized what I had done and came back the next day with a check drawn on my credit union account instead. ;)
I write myself a quarterly expense reimbursement check from the sawmill account and deposit it into my personal account (which is different from PatD's household account). Kinda strange managing 3 different accounts. ::) Many times at Walmart, etc. I am separating out the sawmill/farm items in the shopping buggy before or during checkout. I maintain a business CapitalOne credit card and have a business account with Amazon, although I defer to eBay whenever I can.
I have a business credit card I use for most business expenses. I also separate out items in my cart for personal or business and pay from them with the appropriate card or check.
WV your check writing adventure sounds a bit like kiting. I wonder if the teller was getting ready to fill out one of those adverse event reports to the feds on you. :D
There was no harm done but I sure felt silly at the time. ::)
Trust me - I have done many dumber things and have the scars to prove it. ;)
Well, I sure did something dumb yesterday.
It was time to touch up the roads on the farm, and some dump trucks were bringing in 60 tons of ABC road based to spread and compact in the bad places.
Typically I'll have them chain their tailgates and spread, and then I go over everything with my motor grader. Now my motor grader is one of the older pieces of equipment here on the farm. It's a Fiat Allis 100C model from the early 1980's. I typically only use it once or twice a year.
Coming off of the recent cold snap, I've been dealing with a lot of fuel issues here on the farm, especially on the diesel equipment that does not have some type of block heater. So when the motor grader wouldn't start, and I did not observe gray smoke coming out of the exhaust when cranking, I immediately thought gelled fuel.
After running the batteries down, replacing the fuel filter (two trips to town to source all three filters), blowing out all of the lines, hooking up a battery charger and a few hundred feet of extension cord to reach the machine, the grader still wouldn't start. So I decided to give up, reassemble everything and then use the loader bucket on the backhoe to smooth over the fill. I hooked the throttle linkage back up to the fuel pump (had to remove it to get access to some of the fuel lines), and it was only then that I happened to notice the "other cable" running to the injection pump.
Aw crap! The idiot (me) that was trying to start the machine had never pulled the shutdown cable back out! (I leave it in the "shut off" position so as to discourage theft). The 100C is different than most diesel equipment in that you push the cable in to kill the motor, and pull it out to let it start.
Pulled the cable out, and the machine started right up.
Sigh.... that was a wasted 3 hours...
I leave the shut off pulled out quite a bit on the skidder. Your "theft deterrent" theory is way better than me though. I'll be honest, pull the cable and don't want to spend one more second on the machine. Next day, crank and wonder why it wont fire.
Last winter I was hearing an intermittent clunk when shifting forward - reverse in the back of my Kubota. I looked and couldn't find anything loose. I thought the wheel was loose but didn't see any sign of slop.
Yesterday when I heard it I decided it's gotta go in the garage so I can figure it out. Lugs were loose. Egged out the holes. New hub and studs/ bolts required. I shoulda put a wrench on it last year when I first heard it!
mh
That could be expensive. My rims on my kubota are rusted around the valve stems. $800 per rim!!
I'm not affiliated but the new Shoup catalog came today so its in my mind. I cracked the lug holes on the skid steer and got bolt circle repair plates, and they also had the somewhat odd rim as well.
As far as in keeping with dumb things. A skid steer doesn't have time to egg out the holes if the lugs get loose. Because you are twisting all the time when it comes loose it starts flexing and cracking around the holes. Keep them tight and the tires up to keep trash out of the beads
Luckily the center of the wheel is separate. $310. Could have been a lot worse.
mh
FFOTS, I'd look into welding washers around the valve stem hole and/or putting in tubes before I'd spend $800 a rim.
Yeah, I would weld the old holes shut and drill some new ones and tube it.
Just make sure you dismount the tire before any welding is done on a wheel. otherwise, the wheel and tire WILL blow up!!!!
My old 1974 John Deere has valve stem boots and tubes.
Say that 5 times fast :D
that, that, that, that, that.
That is as fast as I can go. :D
So, my tractor has tubes. The tubes were supposed to have been filled with water/alcohol for weight and the tubes were supposed to protect the metal from rust. Either the fluid didn't really get into the tubes or the tubes ruptured at some point. I'm afraid to see the damage. I'll have to take it somewhere to get the work done.
Eight or ten years ago I had to get new tires on the Farmall and Massey Ferguson. The Farmall got new rims. The old rims were the original rims. They were patched and had tubes but finally rusted through.
The shop I bought the tires from sent a service truck and they did all the tires at one time in the drive in front of my shop. The cost was $85 for the service call. Eight tires were $$$$ of course.
I had to replace the rims, tubes and one tire on my David Brown last year.
As I recall
Rim and tube, new methanol, $600
Tire, rim, tube, mostly new methanol, $2100
That's having the coop service truck come and do it in my driveway.
the tire was about $600, the rims were rusted out from the calcium fluid. Methanol is supposed to be less corrosive.
I kept the old rims and tire, the rims i made a fire pit with and haven't done anything with the tire yet.
Quote from: Machinebuilder on January 04, 2023, 08:28:43 AM
the tire was about $600, the rims were rusted out from the calcium fluid. Methanol is supposed to be less corrosive.
Isn't beet juice supposed to be the latest, greatest thing? Thick but heavy, biodegradeable & non-corrosive if I remember correctly.
Yes, and MEGA expensive. Foam is the ultimate as far as tire durability goes. Heavy and rides rougher, but never fails either.
I was under the impression cast rubber was the ultimate? I consulted with a recycling firm which did largely roll off containers full of construction debris to be sorted, their off-road only trucks were just regular trucks beat to the point they could never see road duty again. Punctures were a real problem and foam did ok but once the tire lost cords, it disintegrated. Cast rubber was the next step, I believe it was expensive but made for a 10r22.5 that weighed well over 300lbs and once the cords started to fail, there was essentially another tire inside the tire. They rode quite rough.
I wasn't offered the option of beet juice, probably due to the cost
Beet juice if you want more weight in the tire. Otherwise, methanol (windshield washer fluid) is the reasonable way to go. Has worked well for me for 24 years now.
Antifreeze works well in tractor tires.It's heavy and doesn't hurt rubber or rims.
I had mine filled with Rim Guard or beet juice. it was $450 for the two rear tires. I think they took about 60 gallons.
WARNING: Do not use a shop vac with a plastic hose to vacuum the sheetrock dust out of your hair! The subsequent static discharge will receive your undivided attention!
Don't ask how I know! :D :D
It's impossible for some of us to even need to do that. :D
WoW, me IQ done be growin every day!
:D :D :D
Now that's funny! electricuted-smiley
Yes but, can you lay on da hands and charge a car battery ???
This involves my dog.
My dog will greet me every day when I get home. The last 3 feet is nothing but air. :D
She is a Westie, small dog.
She plays the same way, rough.
OK the dumb part.
She loves to play and jump on me when I get down on the floor with her.
As I was going to lay on the floor with here, she comes running, which she always does. Remember the last 3 feet is nothing but air part?
Oh yea, she does the leap, and somehow, we connected heads as I was laying down on the floor. Made quite the noise too!!!
I think I felt it more than her. She jumped up in her Mother's lap after the crash for some healing time.
I wear glasses and have learned to take my glasses off or she will get them off before we are done.
And the bed.
If I just sit on the bed, she knows it is play time. She has to get on the bed and raise you know what.
Quote from: moosehunter on January 03, 2023, 04:11:18 PM
Last winter I was hearing an intermittent clunk when shifting forward - reverse in the back of my Kubota. I looked and couldn't find anything loose. I thought the wheel was loose but didn't see any sign of slop.
Yesterday when I heard it I decided it's gotta go in the garage so I can figure it out. Lugs were loose. Egged out the holes. New hub and studs/ bolts required. I shoulda put a wrench on it last year when I first heard it!
mh
I feel your pain! Recently started hearing same noise from my Kubota. To the shop and there is a cracked hub, probably from my poor maintenance related to torquing the lug nuts and bolts.
Sawyer Ted I laughed out loud at your shocking revelation, sorry.
Well as instantaneously painful as it was, I have to laugh. It is/was funny as funny gets! I was bending over so when the blinding bolt of static hit my head, I immediately took to my hands and knees :o :o :D :D
I'm just glad there's not video. The only thing I could imagine being worse, is being tased. :D
Funny, but what was the "dumb" part? Or was this a repeat performance, and that was it?
Ted, I use an air hose to blow the dust out of my hair and clothes. no shock and i pretty much look like a model with all that hair blowing in the wind. have to breath the dust later however.
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Funny, but what was the "dumb" part? Or was this a repeat performance, and that was it?
Forgetting to wear my hat....
Well after lots of years of doing dumb stuff, I thought I would share one from a few months ago. It came to me when I was replying about options for a mill that I need to post here.
When I bought the new mill it came with only front and rear FAOR. so after a good couple of year and money in the bank I bought the 4 middle ones during covid, took 6 months to get them.
Easy installation and off I go portable sawing. Well I found It was more work to set up and take down the mill, lots more bending over and crouching down to play with the big safety pins.
Now the story,
Late November I head to a sawmill job 1.5hrs away. the weather had been crap for days and I had been putting off this job, well the weather broke so I headed over in the morning, a few sprinkles on the way but when I got there the sun came out, we were sawing on the edge of Georgian bay, beautiful site, big waves rolling in all day. We were sawing some great ash logs into 1x6 blanks for flooring. 1800 bd ft. We finished up around 3 and I was just starting to pack up the mill when the sky let go, freezing pellets, rain , sleet , real miserable, but it's okay we are done and I'm going to be leaving. I'm rushing as you can imagine, that was the dumb , but wait for it.....
Fast forward 3 weeks. I pull the mill out of the shop in December to saw some logs that just came in, well low and behold one FAOR is missing, the one at the middle back when you park the head for travel. I was scratching my head and few cuss words as I tried to figure out what happened....did someone steal it ? nope there were the 4 sheared off bolts still in the frame... yep you got it, the last sawmill job, I was rushed in the crap weather and probably didn't lock in the safety pin properly and that leg drop down while travelling home and of course at 60MPH it just sheared off without me even knowing.
Now you know why I am not fussy about the middle FAOR. :D
That's a bummer. Was that one of the new ones too?
I can't believe no one has done anything dumb in 2 weeks. Give me a minute and I'm sure I will do something.
Well, my dumbness took place about a week ago, so that'll fit in here; me and son put some expanded metal on tractor brush guard, like many folks do. Turned out pretty good for a couple at-best part time fabbers. Due to time of year I'm having to paint this at home. Not ideal, but getting it done.
Was in fact all done, several coats of Bobcat orange...when I notice, there's bits of metal overhanging 2 of the bolt holes....just enough I didn't immediately notice it, but enough that no way those bolts would have gone in.
So out comes the grinders and cutter, fixing stupid mistake, and get the paint back out...
That doesn't sound too bad. Glad you were able to mitigate. My tractor had expanded metal on the grill guard when I bought it. Surprising they don't just do that from the start.
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I had this ball attached to the blade of my tractor and was pulling a 5X8 trailer with one ton of gravel today and it got in a bind and snapped the 5/8" or 3/4" shaft on the ball. I did have the safety chain on and it worked as designed and I was able to negotiate the trailer into position. I know this in not up to my usual standards but it will have to do in a pinch.
You got off lucky, I tore up the trailer coupling end messing around with a ball on the loader. That learned me, go get the truck.
I had forgotten one of my early marital misadventures till scrolling down the page talking about getting zapped brought it all back.
Her folks had retired to a house on a canal with access out to the Gulf. I got recruited on one of our visits to help jet in a new section of seawall. I did not grow up on the water, at least not in that way. We had a gas powered pump up on the dock and were waist deep or so in the water, jetting alongside the planks and sinking them into the sand. It was lunch or something and her Dad motions for me to kill the motor. Not noticing the stick he had put there I just reached up and pushed the ground to the plug. Walking on water just takes proper motivation.
It'll do Howard, but I would have expected the story to be more like, "I was thrown from the tractor and....."
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on January 30, 2023, 05:38:37 PM
.... I know this in not up to my usual standards but it will have to do in a pinch.
Having a lot of trouble getting this to post. Howard, buddy, after all the work I did to make it clear that you and I were not the top posters on this thread, and just moments before I was about to make a post remarking about how you nor I have posted anything in quite a while EVEN and in SPITE of the fact that you are working on the shed again and doing ladder work. You go ahead and bust my (our)bubble. Geez man!
@Don P (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17) Now I can't get that picture out of my mind. :D I bet that grabbed your attention real fast!
I wanna see da pics, Better yet da video. :D :D :D
I did that with a generator my dad had, I was on dry land at the time and it had to be more than 35 years ago - I still remember the experience. Can't imagine what being in the water would be like. Come to think of it I remember seeing the stick after the fact too.
were you standing in water after the fact? :D :D :D :o :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Well never play with the spark plug wire when someone is working on the engine. Back in the 60's dad had an older 40 some model Gravely 2-wheel walk behind tractor and it needed something done to it. He took it to a friend that helped keep our stuff going. The guy had removed the spark plug while he was working on it. The plug was on top of the T head engine, and I was fiddling with the spark plug wire where it clipped to the spark plug. He reached and spun the fly wheel/pull start pully. I never will forget how funny he and dad thought my reaction was. Good thing I did not know any cuss words then or it might have been embarrassing.
Those things were kind of like learning to water ski. Which, I never got used to being another skipping rock either ::). When it has drug you all over heck and creation till all you can do is hang on, then you can pop up and ski :D. I think the Gravely's were something like a cylinder from a radial engine strapped to a model T tranny.
Of course when that plug bit me I let go, which caused the generator to pop, fart, and backfire like it was going to explode, which I knew would make my dad mad, so while one hand had crawled up into my arm socket I was desperately trying to use the stick to shut the portable electric chair down fully expecting it to finish me off....either way I was certain that was my final day on Earth and they would just make another one to replace me.
My dad was taught by an uncle who unhooked the old style crank phone from the wall, gave one wire to one of the kids and had the rest hold each others hands in a row. Then he told the last one to grab the cat's tail as he cranked the phone! :D
Electricity can be fun!! But not for the cat.
That was one of my childhood toys, an old telephone generator. That could explain that tic :D I got a pic of one not long ago;
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The magneto is in the middle there.
QuoteUnlike in the public telephone network, which has a standard ringing cadence (the repeating pattern of ringing and silence), the ringing cadence when using a magneto depended on the skill of the operator. When ringing local extensions, some switchboard operators used local codes of ringing to indicate internal, external or urgent calls.
Brings to mind a line from a blues song.
The phone's a ringin, sounds like a long distance call
I have one of those magnetos. I mounted to a board with some banana plug and some light bulb sockets. You can hook up LED and incandescent bulb in various ways. Real feedback as to how much work a generator has to do as the electrical load increases. Since it is AC current, you can hook a pair of LED lights in opposite direction and you get a train crossing flashing lights. If you crank it fast, no problem lighting a 100w bulb.
In my old days as a auto mechanic, a quick and dirty way to check for a misfiring plug was to take a circuit tester, ground it and plunge the pointy end through the spark plug boot on the distributor. These were bigger, heavier rubber ends on GM High Energy Ignitions. You could get 50,000 volts at milliamps go up your arm. Couldn't hold a tool for a minute or two after that.
I also managed to spot weld a wrench or two to the car while working on a battery terminal. We used to charge up the capacitor from old point sets and toss them to someone. The natural reaction is to catch it and you would get a shock. Kinda like the old joy buzzer handshake.
Back in my dad's day, some of the electrical guys got to the point they had no feeling left in two of their fingers. They'd lick the pointer and middle and use it as a "voltage tester". electricuted-smiley
I remember one of those pawn shop TV shows saying the Army field phone (like Radar on MASH had) could give someone quite a jolt too, the faster they cranked, the worse it got. franken-smiley
Also read down south they had to make "telephoning" fish illegal. Guys would rig up the crank phone components, then shock the water, and net up the stunned fish. fishin-smiley
In high school we had a substitute physics teacher that knew nothing about electricity and was scared of it. After we hooked up a model T coil and formed a chain to mess with her she took it away from us then got upset because we couldn't complete our assignments.
Back when I was student teaching the agriculture education teacher was teaching small engine repair. As a joke he put a charge on some of the condensers and slipped them back into the boxes.
Two or three students got "bitten" when they pulled the condensers out.
What the agriculture teacher overlooked was he had pulled that joke for years. Several students dads or older brothers had the same joke pulled on them by the same teacher.
Someone told the students that year how to put a charge on the condensers. The ag teacher got to where he couldn't pick a condenser up that semester. :o
On a similar note, I was teaching electronics and drafting during my student teaching. When I was teaching about capacitors, I pulled out an old military surplus 120 volt power supply that had two big capacitors.
The idea was to power up the power supply, switch on a light bulb attached to it and see how long the bulb would burn when the power was disconnected. This was to demonstrate the charge on the capacitors would allow the bulb to burn for a time. Think quart jar sized capacitors. The bulb would burn 25-30 seconds.
The other part of the demonstration was to allow the bulb to burn for several seconds after power was disconnected THEN short the output to demonstrate that the capacitors were powering the bulb. To short the output we (my supervising teacher or I) would use a screwdriver to short two copper wires.
When I was doing the demo the first time, I didn't allow enough burn time on the bulb to discharge the capacitors sufficiently.
Imagine a group of a dozen or so high schoolers and a 22 year old student teacher gathered around the power supply. The arc of electricity not only melted the copper wires, about 3/8" of the screwdriver was vaporized. :o
Mr. Casey, my supervising teacher, was observing. Needless to say he had to leave the room to keep from laughing out loud! :D Once the smoke settled, the kids thought that was the coolest thing they had seen in a while.
I am sure it was! video? :D :D :D :o 8) :snowball: :)
Yikes! An arc flash in front of a bunch of close proximity high school students might not earn you many accolades today.
Happily before that, we had to do a report on a hobby in 9th grade english. I can't remember anyone's except George. Speaking of coolest thing we had seen in awhile. He had wire from the wall plug to a beaker of water, from the water to a pair of carbon rods nearly touching in a holder and back to the wall. The teacher asks the 9th grader "is this safe?" "Sure teacher" and he plugs it in. Nothing. Then George begins slowly pouring salt into the beaker with the water and the wires, and the arc light comes on, more salt and it comes on full blast. And then everything goes out.
These were old school buildings :D.
But that was cool :)
Reminds me of a tale I heard about a Herpetology professor showing how to handle dangerous snakes to a class of college students. He reached in and pulled out a large cottonmouth but got a poor grip and it twisted in his hand and bit him. The prof turned loose and the snake was hanging by one fang in his hand. The slow talking, deep voiced graduate assistant at the back of the room calmy asked "Joe, can I have yore truck?"
Its nice to have a good support network.
George probably wouldn't have stood in the Atlantic ocean and grabbed the plug wire :D. Between all the flopping, I didn't think to look for stunned fish.
High school chemistry class we were supposed to be boiling salt water or something like that, not me. I had found a "recipe" on how to make nitroglycerin, so of course I had to try and do it using all the school supplied equipment. My lab partner had defected from Poland and didn't speak much English which turned out to be in my favor when the beaker boiled over and "WHOOMP" a mushroom cloud suddenly formed over my table. I turned to him and said something along the lines of "don't say a word" and ran up and down the isle yelling "the experiment is bad, turn it off" trying desperately to deflect attention from the blob of boiling doom at my station. The chemistry teacher ran over and somehow I managed to convince here that I hadn't done anything wrong, even though she had run the same experiment for probably 30 years. All the other kids knew I was up to something, so none were too quick to shut off their experiment.
Imagine doing that today. :o
I made potassium tri-iodide in college. It is a contact explosive after it dries. I had made some and we we set off a filter paper full in physics class. the president and the dean of admissions walked in and asked my prof. what was going on. He said Henderson made some explosives. I smiled and gestured towards the 4 remaining filter papers with the brown iodine on them. I turned and looked at what I thought would be proud mentors, when I then bumped one and they all four went off. I was laughing so hard as the dean of admissions ran out of the room, but could not hear myself or what I am sure were the kind accolades coming from administration as the left in a hurry. I was student senate/class president, I did speak at my graduation, and I did graduate. :snowball: :D :D :D
I was in a band and we were doing 4 decades history of music, ending with (at the time) the 80s. I was the drummer in "Kiss" for the last decade at the time and the contact explosives were detonated by my drum sticks. I did have a little fun in college.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on January 30, 2023, 01:37:27 PM
That's a bummer. Was that one of the new ones too?
FF of course it was, $400 gone in a blink of an eye!
I was watching this while having a morning cup and remembered we were talking about old magneto's. I had not thought about why the spark gets weak on these old engines. The magnet needs re-energizing, cool 8)
Your old Magneto will need this! How to build and use a electro-Magnetizer! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0EAooruji0)
Interesting. Something that I will never use nor need, but informative none the less. :P
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I've been using up some stacks of lumber that I cut, and I end up with stickers leaned up over here, stacked over there, laid on top of that, laid on top of this, etc. I remember seeing a picture of a sticker shack on here somewhere, so that's what I need.
The stickers laid crossways are to separate dry stickers from green stickers. The problem is I didn't build it wide enough to fit the forks on the backhoe. So I Had to put runners the other direction. There was no personal injury in this project.
Well , my pictures didn't get inserted where I thought I put them , so I guess I messed that up too.
That is way smarter than parking your ATV with cart attached next to the dead ash you are fixing to cut for firewood. Of course the ash tree "can never" fall in that direction so no need to move the 4 wheeler. ::) The top snapped off when the tree fell and landed right across the tongue of the cart. Fortunately it was only 3-4 inches in diameter where it snapped off and did not do any damage. The heavy trunk is still hung on a maple limb but won't be too hard to finish cutting and get to it for firewood.
I once dropped a Cherry tree and was very careful to park the 4 wheeler plenty far enough away, and I did. When the Cherry tree fell it caught another which in turn caught still another tree which crashed my 4 wheeler, big time. It took me quite a while to even find my 4 wheeler and even longer to piece together what had happened.
I was not far enough away from that 3rd tree. :-X
I did that with a big poplar several years ago. You have seen and commented on my customized LogRite cant hook that was laying in the trail where the main log fell. I had to cut a pretty good sized buckeye top off my ATV to get to it.
I'm taking a break today from framing in my shed extension. (Actually my drill battery is recharging before I can hang the last 2- 8' long 2X4s). I placed one 13' fresh cut poplar 2X4 on top of the old one from before the extension and leaned the other end on a stepladder. I reached down for my drill and whack! Right on the gourd. 13' green 2X4s are heavy. I'm glad it was not oak.
On the next 2X4 I drilled a 6" deep 3/8" pilot hole for a long lag screw. When I went to back it out the auger bit hung, I was too close and Whack. The battery hit me right under the chin.
Some days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed. ::)
Howard, I think Don P or Jim can back me up, but if you go to the tool box, and look up green framing lumber for framing, and go to the bottom of the charts, and follow the column with an * that references framing material that has contacted WV sawmillers head, it is no longer suitable for framing material due to possibility of catastrophic failure. :) :) :)
glad you are OK, not so sure about the 2 x 4! ;)
"May the fleas from a thousand camels infest your tent!" >:( :D
:D :D :D 8) 8) 8) :) :) :)
Good stuff guys. Keep it up, as long as you don't damage your equipment too bad or hurt yourself too severely.
Just a hypothetical question. If an unnamed person was replacing the front door speakers in his RAV4 and it began to rain and he moved his F250 from the carport so that the aforementioned RAV4 could be moved into the aforementioned carport and the aforementioned unnamed person then backed the aforementioned RAV4 into the front winch bumper of the aforementioned F250 should the aforementioned unnamed person tell his wife or not?? ::)
Just asking for a friend. ???
MM- depends on how badly damaged her F250 winch is. :)
If the RAV4 is 5 years old or less then probably, if older then "That probably happened at the grocery store" will suffice.
Have you bought her flowers or jewelry lately? ??? ;D
And whatever you do, add a backup camera to the Rav4. Once you have one, you'll never want to drive a vehicle without it.
Lets see what the resident "backing up into things" expert @barbender (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1286) has to say. :D
Someone once told me, "If your wife is mad, buy a new fishing rod. She'll still be mad but you'll have a new fishing rod."
There's a thread in the General Board about the metamorphosis of pickup trucks.
Backup cameras and proximity sensors are great features. These features have reduced the damage done by persons unnamed in my house. :o
Go out to eat fess up and enjoy the evening.
Quote from: Resonator on February 08, 2023, 02:02:44 PMAnd whatever you do, add a backup camera to the Rav4.
The last addition that "he" made to that 2003 Rav4 was to add a backup camera and it's my understanding that it is working perfectly.
I have it on good authority that the best defense is that it must have happened in the Walmart parking lot. :-X
As a side note.....it did not rain, but the speakers sound good. ::)
Quotewas to add a backup camera and it's my understanding that it is working perfectly.
Well obviously there was a hidden defect in the software of the backup camera, and that was the cause of the accident so it's really to blame. :D
(Edit: Meant as sarcasm. :D)
she probably already knows and is waiting to see if you tell her. sleep well. My dad used to buy a tool he needed/wanted, and it would go to the back of a shelf maybe even behind some stuff. then three years later my mom would ask, "when did you get that" and my dad would answer "I have had that for years".
One thing to remember when you buy tools and guns. The ladies might not know the difference but they can count.
Same way we are with ladies' shoes. ::)
It works both ways. one year, my dad got my mom a kitchen deal like a meat slicer and my mom was not happy and really did not want it. the next year my dad got her some nice jewelry after the MS (meat slicer) debacle. My dad figured out my mom was unwrapping it and showing to the Neighbor lady friends. prob unwrapped and rewrapped 3 or 4 times. Just before getting to open some presents Christmas eve, my mom was like a kid and vary excited to open and finally have this gift. So she opened it and there was nothing in the box. she acted confused but also looked very guilty, and thought she had messed up and somehow forgot to put is back in the box. I think it was a ring. after a while, my dad asked " is this what you are looking for"? Oh my God, he was in trouble for a second year. Dad had removed it. :snowball:
I cut down two dead yellow pine trees the other day and I did not hit my side x side with either one because of the talk here about hitting stuff with falling trees. Thanks all.
Lynn, when I backed my truck into my wife's car I blamed it on her. I was backing the truck into the garage and hit the back of her car with the driver side mirror of my truck. Didn't hurt my mirror, but put a huge dent in the back hatch of the Subaru. I told her she had parked too close to the middle of the garage and I didn't have room to get into the garage without hitting the car. I'm sure you can figure some way that it was her fault. I mean, I'm sure your friend can figure some way that it was his wife's fault.
I had always assumed it was my job to do the first dent, chivalry and all.
What horsemanship has to do with wrecks or throwing ones coat in a mudpuddle for ladies to stomp on is beyond me though, so I could be mixed up.
You guys seem to be confusing me with an aforementioned unnamed person. :D
Quote from: Magicman on February 08, 2023, 04:40:23 PM
One thing to remember when you buy tools and guns. The ladies might not know the difference but they can count.
Same way we are with ladies' shoes. ::)
Aw, I am shocked to see you guys appear to be amateur's at this stuff and never figured it out. Back when I was in my 20's and newly married I had 3 buddies I would shoot with frequently and go to gun shows with. We had a pact wherein if (when) one of us bought a new gun and we brought it home openly, the wife would ask about it and we would say "Oh, that's a gun that Bob bought, but he asked me to take it and do a little work on it for him." Time would pass and it would be forgotten. Bob would blame his new gun on me, etc. around the circle. If any of the wives asked us, we would back the other guy up. "OH, sure, I hope he gets the work done on it soon, I'd like to try it out." or something like that. One guy bought so many guns that he was blaming a few on each of us. Fortunately the wives didn't get together a lot unless we were around. :D
I always thought it funny that us guys were not permitted to complain about new shoes, purses, dresses, or any of that stuff. Oh sure, they could bring home all that stuff and we had to tell them how nice it looked. But bring home one little gun that barely cost a month's wages and
they go through the roof. :D :D ;D
My son had watched a Parker double barrel in a local pawn/gun shop he frequented. He told the owner who was a friend of his "That old Parker double has been in her a good while. Would you take $500 cash for it?" The guy studied a while and said "Yeah. I really need to move it." My son bought it The tag said it was a 10 gauge but he got to checking and loaded a shell in it and found it was a 10 gauge which were a lot more rare. He took it to a Cabela's dealer in Charleston WV 2 days later and sold it for $3500 and used the profit to pay for their Disney vacation that year. After that his wife did not complain about his gun trading.
Quote from: Resonator on February 08, 2023, 02:02:44 PM
And whatever you do, add a backup camera to the Rav4. Once you have one, you'll never want to drive a vehicle without it.
I always found them kind of gimmicky, I will say they are very good at reducing actual backing skill from the vast majority of all driving population (not that there was much to begin with). This ranks right up there with lane departure assistance, pre-collision braking & sonar cruise control. The folks that rely on these things to drive safely aren't safe drivers.
Quote from: Magicman on February 08, 2023, 07:17:32 PM
You guys seem to be confusing me with an aforementioned unnamed person. :D
I think a few chickens and a goat would make a good peace offering. The truth shall find you out! :(
It is never good when you get a PM notification that Southside has tagged you in, "did something dumb today"😂 I intentionally never even visit this thread because I'm afraid I'll have to many things to post about and folks will get weary of it😁
Magic, I don't really have any advice for the unnamed person that backed into the Rav4. I prefer to back into stuff while the owner is present, it keeps everything on the up and up😊
I have always used my side mirrors, never a problem.
Ann and I would always tell one another what we needed or wanted first.
Then when done talking, go with what we decided.
I remember one day, here car was kinder old. She wanted a new one, After talking some about how much $$ we had. I filled her purse with $$.
Go get one, I said, the smile on here face was all worth it.
We never lied to each other, ever.
I miss her so much.
Quote from: Resonator on February 08, 2023, 02:02:44 PMadd a backup camera to the Rav4. Once you have one, you'll never want to drive a vehicle without it.
My wife's car has one and I hate it. I'd rather have bigger flat mirrors so I can judge the distance. Also the alarm starts beeping when I am still 2-3 ft from where I want to stop.
We all have our opinions. ;D
I regard it as a safety feature, if it prevents an accident, I think it's worth it. And yes, I know you can drive without using one. I put 1 million miles on the road as a professional truck driver, not ONE of the trucks I drove had a backup camera. You'd adjust your mirrors, and G-O-A-L (get out and look) before you backed up.
I am glad my wife and kids have that for them. It can be handy, even for those of us that went through Dad driver ed. :snowball:
It feels like they are building more blind spots into cars, what with all the side airbags and junk. I'm a fan of my backup camera even though I learned and survived without one. My car also has a camera built into the passenger side mirror because that entire side is almost all blind spot. I think it's a good thing to have as just an extra set of eyes.
What does a cut list for a doghouse look like? Shouldn't take too long to knock out. :D
Doug in SW IA
Quote from: dougtrr2 on February 09, 2023, 03:02:43 PM
What does a cut list for a doghouse look like? Shouldn't take too long to knock out. :D
Doug in SW IA
How big of a dog you got in mind?
GAB
@aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516), agree on the blindspots. Wife's 2017 Highlander's got a big fat front corner post and that along with a big fat mirror mount in the same place, I can hardly see where I am making a right turn.
Plus, I learned how to drive where I do all the rear and side checking, etc. so to also be checking a screen plus listening to various bells and whistles just adds distractions for me. I enjoy driving my '02 4runner! It's primitive, like me.
Honestly I don't know if I have airbags in my B post, but it is big and does block my view of trying to look over my left shoulder to see if there is someone in the blind spot. I am now just used to having my convex mirror pointed such that it shows my blind spot. Also I am accustomed to leaning forward and looking in the regular mirror to check the blind spot. That's a habit learned from years of driving firetrucks, which I rarely do anymore. I think those of us who grew up without cameras and learned to use their mirrors are the best ones for having cameras, because we use it as a tool, but not the only tool. I'm trying to teach my son to use both.
I find the straight on view blocked a bit. Side mirrors ok.
I seldom drive it-that's the biggest factor.
I've been following this with humorous interest. I know some of y'all will look at me askance hitherto from this point, others of you will think me less as a man, and still others will wonder if I am just turning feeble, but I am thinking of putting a back up camera on my Mule. :D OK, done laughing at me? It's not that I need help backing up, it's just that lining that thing up, with the short turning radius, to a loaded trailer I can't move by hand for the last inch or two is rough. I would have it pointed right at the ball and save me a LOT of getting in and out and re-adjusting. I've thought about it on the truck for the same reason. Of course, on the truck it would be nice to check it and see that while backing into a parking spot my pintle hitch may have bumped the tesla parked just behind so I would know what that thump was. ;D ;D There are other handuy reasons for those things.
Bill there used to be a book we carried in the rescue which I think became a phone ap where you could look up every vehicle made and get the airbag count and locations in each one. It also gave the wire color codes and routing on electric and hybrids as well as other hazards. Might wanna check out your vehicles.
Take steps to save steps according to YH. Sounds like that is what you are doing.
My programmer for my HD3500 came with a tag frame camera. I made another one to go by the cab back stop light. I can see the bed for gooseneck and cargo monitoring, and flip a switch to see across a car trailer, or back up to a bumper pull and line it up for hitching.
2018 F150 basic model, no sensors. I find the back up camera most handy for hooking up a trailer. It sure beats getting out a couple times to line up or judge distance, mine can zoom in when I get close to the trailer. I like the convex mirrors in the corners of the side mirrors, helps a lot with blind spots.
My wife's CRV has some sensors and even slows down cruise control if you get to close behind another car. And has a little light in the side mirror if someone is in the blind spot. I do not like all the new beeps and warnings.
Had to move an employees Jeep something or other a couple weeks ago. When you turn the steering wheel the backup camera moves the lines and completely distorted what I needed to see, so I did what any redneck would do, opened the drivers door to look behind me. Turns out those have an ejection seat feature in them now that SLAMS on the parking brake after you are moving. Said ejection seat was almost successful, in the name of safety of course. I could not figure out what I had run over. Even got out and walked all around the vehicle. Eventually I noticed the little parking brake light was on and got it moved, but yeah, some technology isn't always helpful.
A backup camera is useless unless you look at the monitor when backing up. At least that is what a friend told me. ;D
I need one on the fork tips. Right into a sweet 8/4 walnut board loading the kiln :-\
Man, for real about not being able to see around the A pillars when taking turns. I've had 2 Honda Civics, the first a 1996 had a giant greenhouse of a set of windows and you could see great out of it, then I had a Mercury Sable, that also could be seen out of well, then my 2017 Civic with airbags everywhere has giant chunky pillars, and the front ones made me most nervous when I started driving the car around. It's impossible to see a good 4 or 5 inches of space on either side of the car.
I'm also teaching my son to lean way forward as he's looking in the mirrors to check on blind spots but I should probably also get him some concave mirrors.
Tom, I think that's a great idea and very helpful. I know you hate Cramazon but I got a pretty nice setup for about 50 bucks, that I use on the backhoe.
Don P- I got over the loader bucket forks for the backhoe and it's impossible to see the forks at all while in the seat. I got a backup camera that I initially put on top of the bucket but the view was still tricky as I couldn't see the level of the forks to run them into a pallet or stack of anything. It took me a while but finally thought of getting a magnetic camera mount (easily removable), seen below, and put the camera in the bucket and what a difference that made. You can see the view nicely but now I feel like a camera mounted up high too because once a load is on it's tough to tell where the whole stack is. The last picture shows how accurate I could get, on my first try with this camera setup, as I pushed a pallet into my shed.
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Well ant that cool. smiley_thumbsup
I didn't do it and, fortunately, I was out of range. I do metal scrapping. My Niece and her husband bought a Midas franchise last year. Just bought another one that is a disaster. Lots of scrap metal to recycle. Yesterday I loaded up three 5 gallon buckets of nuts and bolts. There were four of those tanks on wheels with a very long spout funnel for doing oil changes on the rack. To drain the oil out of them, you hook up a air hose and put the drain hose in the bulk waste oil tank. Worked great on two. One I had to help lift to manually dump. Of course, the plastic funnel on the bulk tank broke and doused me with some nasty oil. ::)
But the "fun" part. They have a pit rack for doing large vehicle oil changes. Down in the pit is another collection tank thing and it was moved up the the mid-landing when the lower pit flooded with water. This one needed draining. It was slightly different. With the others, you remove the funnel and close off a big ball valve and pressurize. This one had a ball valve on the funnel stem just below the funnel. The mechanic closed that off and attached the air line. You could hear it filling with air and also hear the oil running into the bulk tank. The oil eventually stopped (plugged up by sludge?). The air was still going into the tank. So the mechanic disconnected the air line but it didn't bleed out any pressure. Without apparently thinking it through, he then touched the release lever to raise the funnel. Except with the pressure in the tank, it launched a good 20 feet straight up, just missing my nephew, crashed into the ceiling with a huge bang then crashed back to the floor. The three of us stood there for a second and said What The Fact just happened!
:D, lucky he didn't do the split rim decap!
When we cranked up the glue machines the shop started buying glue in drums. We had the pipe drum cradle so I could remove the bungs and pour out a few gallons at a time. After lunch one day I got impatient and stuck a blower in the little top bung with my hand sealing it.
You know, it doesn't take much pressure at all to blow the lid off a drum of glue :D.
I had so much trouble hooking up to my dump trailer that I bought an after market wireless back up camera in hopes it would help. It works great and is movable and now also allows me to see my gooseneck ball as well. The camera attaches magnetically and is battery powered. The small monitor plugs into the power port or cigarette lighter. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat if it failed.
So, yesterday we went and bought a used commercial gas stove for the firehouse. This is a $6000 stove for $1000. It was in a house and we had to get it out of the house and out to the truck. The only way it was going to get out the door was to take the oven door off. I figured out that there were some little levers on each hinge that had to be flipped to allow the door to lift off. The guy with me lifted his side off and me my side. I had my hand down by the hinge and when I lifted the door off the rest of the hinge flipped over like a guillotine and cut off a piece of skin from the tip of my thumb about the size of a dime. DanG that was dumb. The lady we bought it from first got me a paper towel to stop the blood and then she went and got me bandaids.
Did she put a call into the rescue squad too?
I think she was trying to do her best to offer help, but not do too much. Plus, we were in a city where I knew some firefighters and I didn't want to have to have one of them show up for me. I would never live that down.
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Well, that will mess up your fingerprints!
Yeah. My fingerprints are always messed up. I had problems when getting fingerprinted for concealed carry. One finger is messed up from an incident with a biscuit cutter/joiner. We have a lock on a cabinet in the house with liquor in it. I can never get in it, because the finger print reader can never read my finger prints.
So did you have have a department truck or something for the pick up? Didn't you have a jump bag in the rig?
I know how embarrassing that can be and I might be laying there with an open compound fracture saying "No, I'm fine, just give me a minute, I can walk this off" rather than call the rescue squad, and if it was my own district, even more so. :D
I did get some minor injuries a time or two and have the person who called us offer help and one time we had ben running non-stop for 2 days and I was exhausted. I was working on a patient in the ambulance and she looked up at me and said "Man, you look like crap! You should lay down or something." There's your sign. ;D
That's a bad spot, I hope it heals up quick!
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 16, 2023, 07:30:49 AMWe have a lock on a cabinet in the house with liquor in it. I can never get in it, because the finger print reader can never read my finger prints.
Sounds like your wife found a way to put you on the wagon!! smiley_jester
I had a little thumb trauma a couple days ago too. Ran my thumb into a scalpel blade my technician was holding as we were extracting a calf from a cow during a c-section. ::) it was my bad, she felt terrible, no major damage just a boo-boo, but at that point in time there was no stopping to inspect it.
This one happened to me a while back, but I figured I'd post it as a cautionary tale to any guys out there that do their own grocery shopping...
Made my usual run to the store I've been going to for years, and noticed they had all new shopping carts. Didn't think too much of it, and went about my usual shopping. Went to check out and all the regular checkouts were closed, only had the self - checkouts open. Not a fan of these, but checked out all my purchases and paid the machine. Things like pop bottles and water I didn't put in bags, just put them back in the cart, and bagged up the rest. Went to go out through the 2 sets of automatic doors, went through the first set, and SCREECH! The wheels of the cart all locked up solid, and nearly threw me over the handlebar. I looked down at the wheels and couldn't figure out what had happened. Just then a manager came out and informed me I had set off the new security system. :o
What I learned is there is a scanner that detects if there are items NOT in bags in the cart. This then sets the alarm off, sending a signal to the wheels, locking up brakes in the wheels. There have been several thefts at other stores in big cities where people load up the carts, and then just make a dash out door stealing everything in the cart. The new system is meant to prevent that. I showed them my receipt, they freed my cart, and was able to leave. Live and learn. ::)
Lost my Logrite 60" blue peavey. Looked all over for it for a couple days. Figured I dropped it in the road off the tractor coming back from getting a log. I was planning to drive up to Mass to get a new one after sawing a few logs yesterday. Had to change the band so went to the shed to get a new one...There it was, right where I put it. If I had not had to change the band I would have two of them now. I am getting concerned that Mariann is correct, I am a complete "did something dumb ".
We were in one of the guys trucks and not a FD truck. My FD pickup truck is more of a command vehicle and has no real pickup truck type utility. He may have had some stuff in his truck, but the bandaid from the homeowner was all I needed. Actually this thing is healing really well. I figured the flap of skin was going to die, but it seems to be actually healing as if it had been stitched down.
Interesting about the shopping cart. I just noticed the local walmart has all new shopping carts, but I don't think they have anything like that on them.
Had to grab a roll of Romex the other day. Reached under the rack, found the 12/2 and picked it up. At that time the entire stack fell over and "Whoop, whoop, whoop" started going off. Turns out they cable the stacks together now with anti theft devices. So the guy comes over, re sets the thing to DEFCON 5, and hands me a roll. Wasn't sure how that system stops someone from walking out the door with the wire but whatever.
Yup, the wire aisle at our Lowes has its own video now. I wear a hat from another construction company and a sweatshirt from a third when i go in there.
Not sure what counts as did something dumb...
My son (I may have told this story) got pulled over by the cops on our first attempt to teach him how to drive. He was in my car and we were probably a mile away from home. He didn't have his temps or anything and he was confused about where to stop at the stop sign on a country road. The cop came up asked what was going on, I told her, and she sent us on her way.
At 430 this afternoon my son took and passed his drivers test to get his real, official and license. All good. He drive my daughter and I to dinner to celebrate. On the way home it was dark and he didn't see our road until he was too close to make the turn. There was a car following us so I didn't want him to slam on the brakes to make the turn. We kept going to the next road, again country roads (actually the road that he was pulling onto at the stop sign of the previous story) to take a right onto it and the car following us continued to follow us, my daughter was looking out the window and said "that's a cop". I started chuckling a bit, he was driving a bit slow and confusedly. We go down the way to turn onto the road that he'd previously got pulled over on and the cop followed us again. I laughed harder. He isn't quite sure where the passenger side of the car is, so a couple hundred yards down the way he'd ran through some tree branches that were just sticking out into the road and I kinda yelled at him to pay attention to where that side of the car was, but I also laughed harder. As we turned onto our street the cop lit him up. He pulled off to the side, all hands visible, and all 3 of us are laughing now. He hadn't done anything illegal and the circumstances were hilarious. I'm looking in the mirror and up pulls the 2nd sherrifs car and I laugh harder. Cop comes up, maybe the same lady, I'm not sure, and says "I pulled you over because you ran off the road back there." We are all kind of giggling and my son explains what happened, that he was having trouble seeing that side of the car and that he'd got his license not 3 hours ago. She asks where we live and I say about 7 houses down the way. Other cop is standing at my window and he's kinda giggling too. She goes back to her car and checks or whatever and come back says "OK, be careful and dad? Good luck" We're all cracking up at this point. And she sends us on our way.
So, within the first 10 minutes of his first run, gets pulled over, and within 3 hours of getting his real license gets pulled over.
So good.
:D :D
Thankfully you had cops with common sense and a sense of humor.
Yeah, the local sherrifs hang out on this street a lot with a neighbor and they all seem OK.
One of the cops and the neighbor were "arguing" over some fencing we were getting rid of a while back and the neighbor drives up on his tractor with a beer between his legs as the cop rolls up from the opposite direction. The neighbor kind of sets the beer on the ground and they start comparing uses of the fencing, giving each other a hard time. The cop wanted it for his hot tub area and the neighbor for his chickens.
Quote from: SawyerTed on February 17, 2023, 08:34:35 PM
:D :D
Thankfully you had cops with common sense and a sense of humor.
Two traits that have dwindled considerably in the last few decades.
GAB
For me, I won't diss our cops on the beat these days. For the job they do, and the situations they face "these" days, and the rules they have to follow, I'm not sure who in their right mind would pursue such a profession. I'm not in the "defund the police" camp for sure. They risk their lives in so many places and at so many times, gutsy hero's in my mind.
Not sure if I was a cop walking up to a car where everyone is laughing, what I'd be thinking is going on or how I'd assess the situation. ??? ???
We all have our individual impressions of cops, be it from the movies, media, the many YouTube videos of cop chases, or our personal experience on the occasion we get pulled over.
My initial encounter with cops and the cherry red light on the top of the cop car was 16 years old and getting a ticket for not stopping at a stop sign. I said I did, the cop said that the wheels did not stop rolling. That was my first lesson that stop means "stop". Not continue rolling.
That would have been my last trip to that store.
I've done it before, but I didn't want today to be the next time. I'm building a table and I glued up the top with 3 red oak boards. I determined what would be the top and what would be the bottom. The bottom had some bad spots in it, but no problem it's on the bottom. Well, then I promptly built it the wrong way. No going back from that. I had to spend a bunch of time filling voids and doing more sanding. It will look OK, but not as good as it would have.
I don't do nearly as many projects as you guys do but, FFOTS, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who does stuff like that.
I've heard writing "Up" and "Down" in white chalk on the boards helps to keep from assembling things backwards. (I've heard that can happen). :-X
Yes, I've done that too. It helps. Clearly I should have done it yesterday. When I had elbow surgery about 10 years ago, before the surgery started the surgeon came in to talk to me. While talking to me about the surgery, he made an X on the elbow to "mark the spot" to make sure they did surgery on the correct elbow. I think he may have written NO on the other one.
Wasn't today, but last Saturday I put my finger where it out not be. Probably should have gone to the ER but chose to just clean and bandage it myself.
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Got lucky and missed the bone. Through the nail but not all the way to the pad. Table saw bite.
Ouch! :o Glad it wasn't worse! It sounds bad enough! :o
Lee it still looks long enough, but you will not be picking your nose with that one for a while! :) glad you are ok, and we will all be a little more careful for a while.
Thank you for putting the bandage on before taking the picture.
I'm happy every day that I bought my Sawstop tablesaw. The only tablesaw injury I ever had was a piece of wood that got kicked back into my gut. Just a minor injury. I'm sorry that you got bit and I hope that it heals well.
Yes thanks for the bandage picture.
Hope it heals quick.
It will stick out like a sore thumb. :(
Quote from: doc henderson on February 27, 2023, 02:50:08 PMLee it still looks long enough
It's still long enough because the cut was lengthwise. A serious nick. Through the nail and beside the bone enough to miss it but not deep enough to go all the way through. Seems to be healing up so far. Looked good when I changed the bandage last night. Surprisingly enough it has been pretty much pain free.
Did it get the base of the nail?
Not quite. Came real close though.
That's good, if there's ever a good part to meeting a blade, you probably won't have a funky split nail.
I did a fair amount of delicate table sawing over the weekend and it went ok other than taking a corner out of a square length of wood. The corner I sawed out was on the fence side and a 3 foot long 1/2 inch chunk of wood flew past me, knocking a couple cans off the bench behind me and almost going through the tv.
I hope your finger heals up well!
Quote from: doc henderson on February 27, 2023, 02:50:08 PM
Lee it still looks long enough, but you will not be picking your nose with that one for a while! :) glad you are ok, and we will all be a little more careful for a while.
To add to Doc's comment; if that was your favorite thumb, then your thumb sucking days they just might be over.
A cast on the arm of one's favorite thumb also helps cure that bad habit.
GAB
Well it's been a while since I've graced this thread with my presence, but here I am in all my glory 😳
Last week I replaced my power feed control module and diode. It was cold and my fingers weren't loving it, so I got it all buttoned up and took it for a quick test drive and it went back and forth as it should 👍🏻 I put the covers on and went to the house where it was warm. Today I finally got back to the mill to work on an order. Since I was milling a large pine log, I was in manual on the simple set and got the log broke down to the point that I needed the set works, but nope got the EO3 code and thought I might have some frozen sawdust in the encoder. I was on a roll and it was working fine in manual, so I continued milling. Then bang, I had a blade break and decided it was time to clean the encoder. As I was removing the last bolt for the cover, I glanced over at the control panel and noticed something strange.
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Not good. :)
I do not have WM, what are you seeing?
It's what he isn't seeing that's the issue
Crossroads, in the early days of my auto mechanic career my favorite trick during a tune up was to forget the distributor rotor. Can't tell you how many of my tune ups wouldn't start on the first crank of the engine. Hey, I was 19. Cut me some slack!
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Quote from: Southside on March 02, 2023, 11:01:26 AM
It's what he isn't seeing that's the issue
Please enlighten us WM-deprived! ;)
LOL Done that one myself once! Grrrr
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Quote from: Southside on March 02, 2023, 11:01:26 AM
It's what he isn't seeing that's the issue
Please enlighten us WM-deprived! ;)
He forgot to plug in the yellow wire you see laying there -- which is what tells the computer where the head is ;)
tells the computer where whose head is? ... :D :D :D sorry crossroads, not directed at you. I do not mean to add insult to injury.
smiley_clapping say_what
No worries Doc, I deserve some razzing in this one. At least it was an easy fix 😝
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My daughter bought these for me probably 5 years ago. Only wore them a couple times just never thought to put them on. Worked in the woods when younger and cut firewood all my life and never had them.
Well yesterday I had some locust to cut down to make raised garden beds and for some reason decided to wear them and this happened.
Luckily was coming down to idle. I will be wearing them from now on for sure.
Guess the one above was watching out for me.
I recommend everyone should wear them. It can be the difference between a good day and a bad one.
Lko67, I keep thinking I should buy a pair.
I am over near Warren Pa. Do you get elk over your way? Looking for someone to point me in the right area to look for sheds. Or is it mostly private land? Thanks
Well, you should be posting in the did something smart thread. I have chaps and don't wear them all the time, but wear them a lot of the time. I need to buy some chainsaw pants to have too. I'm sure they would be nice in the winter too, even if just to keep me warm. I wear my chaps when weed eating in the summer too. If I wear tall boots and the chaps I can keep my legs clean.
In my younger days chasing landing under a 100' Berger tower, I glued inserts inside of my tin pants. I bumped knots on 10-20 loads a day and never got into my legs. Now I only wear chaps when I'm limbing, but every time I start a saw. The little voice in my head asks "where's your chaps dumby?"
Tacks
I'm in Clinton county about 45 minutes from main elk population. A lot of ground is posted. Game Commission book is probably easiest way to find places not posted.
Quote from: Lko67 on March 03, 2023, 08:53:32 AM
Tacks
I'm in Clinton county about 45 minutes from main elk population. A lot of ground is posted. Game Commission book is probably easiest way to find places not
OnX hunt maps will show you land ownership and property lines. I recently purchased BaseMap and so far I like onX better. Accuracy of property lines can vary with the overlay, so they are only for reference.
Quote from: Lko67 on March 03, 2023, 08:06:17 AM
My daughter bought these for me probably 5 years ago. Only wore them a couple times just never thought to put them on. Worked in the woods when younger and cut firewood all my life and never had them.
Well yesterday I had some locust to cut down to make raised garden beds and for some reason decided to wear them and this happened.
Luckily was coming down to idle. I will be wearing them from now on for sure.
Guess the one above was watching out for me.
I recommend everyone should wear them. It can be the difference between a good day and a bad one.
I'm assuming the close-up photo shows chaps and the pulled thread the chain marks.
I don't go without the chaps on. 40 years ago this year just prior to leaving for a CO 2-week elk hunt, I locked up my saw chain in my chaps when the running chain caught a small branch and the chain hit me just above the knee cap. Saved the day, the elk hunt, and won't start the chainsaw without them on (3rd pair now as I replace when they get worn, dirty, or marked up).
I'm on my third pair as well.
My first set of chaps were a Christmas gift AFTER I had a kickback into my shin that required emergency surgery to fix.
I learned the hard and painful way.
How come too many of us had to learn our lessons that way? To soon old and too late schmart! ::)
Here's my sign
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Not only wear them, but wear them the correct way. They need to be fastened snugly around your legs as they will walk into the chain and pull the chain into them at the same time, so if they are floppy and loose on your leg the chain can pull them around and still get you before it stops. This is a bigger issue with apron style chaps over full wrap.
Lee, have you healed up yet?
Mine was minor and should only come to fruition now that I replaced it.
The check engine light went on in my wifes car, you all will remember her favorite deer hunting Honda. It reads that the rear O2 sensor is kaput so for a week now I have been tossing the shop looking for the tool. She of course is hearing all kinds of ominous sounds because of that light bulb so I gave in and bought a new tool for it yesterday. Well, anything to do with old cars and exhaust is just about a losing battle but with some careful angle grinder work and a plain old box end wrench I had it R&R'd, in a mere whole afternoon ::). I'm figuring about 48 hours till the old tool surfaces and they crawl off somewhere to hide :D
My problem is chalk lines. Every project seems like I have to buy a new one. I must own 5 of 6 but only know where the new one is. I'm glad they aren't expensive.
I feel your pain :D
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I wonder why you can't buy a card of a dozen end hooks?
my favorite one is a fat max. they used to give you a little one with a speed square at the box stores.
Don't mix the orange and blue chalk thinking it will be an easy to see color. I have re-filled that one I don't know how many times and it still manages to only grab that mixed stuff, of course that is the only one we ever find.
You haven't lived till you smurf yourself ;D
Blue chalk has nothing on hi spot blue
That stuff gets everywhere and doesn't wash off easy.
Does anyone else find that red chalk seems to never wash off?
One of the golden rules, red is permanent, get the new guy off the concrete with that red box!
When you mix red and blue it is a Jimi Hendrix line ;D
We would snap in blue and correct in red if there was a mistake. Red trumps blue, or something like that.
Caulking guns are my nemesis, I have no idea how many I have, but it seems that I have to buy a new one every time I need one. I bought a new one a few weeks ago, just so I could find one I already had. It worked! I found 2 more 👍🏻
Things like torx bits and drill bits I buy regularly. I misplace them, and only when I do a full shop cleanout do I find all of them. I've learned the hard way to have extra's handy when a project comes up, rather than waste an hour walking in circles searching. ::)
And chalk lines... don't use them anywhere around drywall you plan to paint white. :o
Quote from: jpassardi on March 27, 2023, 08:18:57 AM
Does anyone else find that red chalk seems to never wash off?
YES, I still have a red chalk line on the back side of my leanto that's been there exposed to the weather for 8 years now!
Quote from: Chuck White on March 27, 2023, 01:56:58 PM
Quote from: jpassardi on March 27, 2023, 08:18:57 AM
Does anyone else find that red chalk seems to never wash off?
YES, I still have a red chalk line on the back side of my leanto that's been there exposed to the weather for 8 years now!
I had another Forumite make some cedar fence boards for my niece. Her husband hired a crew to put up the fence. They used red caulk to mark the screw lines. A power wash probably would have cured the issue if nephew didn't seal up the fence first with some clear oil.🫤
Yesterday after jointing and planing oak, JohnM and I dove into replacing the water pump on my 7.3, which turned 23 years old this month. After much consternation and gnashing of teeth, I got the new water pump intstalled, including new upper and lower hoses. After pouring $70 of antifreeze into the resivoure, I realized that I still had a leak. Evidently, the leak was not from the water pump, but rather, from the radiator. This morning I called around and found a new radiator. After an hour and a half, it was installed and the coolant that I poured in yesterday was recycled and poured back into the engine and new radiator, a test ride ensued. Thankfully, there were no leaks. I'm a bit agitated that I replaced a water pump unnecessarily and cross threaded one of the nine bolts when installing. So far there are no leaks.
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The radiator was a relatively easy swap. Afterwards, I gave it a wash. The first one in at least half a year. Next week it will get an oil change and be ready to head to Jake's in a week and a half.
End of the day yesterday, sun going down, tired and starting to get cold. I was trying to finish up and was flitching boards, someone stopped and was asking questions and I hit a side stop that was a bit too high. At least the blade wasn't brand new...
Is flitching boards the same as edging flitches? ;)
Yeah, something like that ;)
Quote from: caveman on April 02, 2023, 08:31:25 PM
Yesterday after jointing and planing oak, JohnM and I dove into replacing the water pump on my 7.3, which turned 23 years old this month. After much consternation and gnashing of teeth, I got the new water pump intstalled, including new upper and lower hoses. After pouring $70 of antifreeze into the resivoure, I realized that I still had a leak. Evidently, the leak was not from the water pump, but rather, from the radiator. This morning I called around and found a new radiator. After an hour and a half, it was installed and the coolant that I poured in yesterday was recycled and poured back into the engine and new radiator, a test ride ensued. Thankfully, there were no leaks. I'm a bit agitated that I replaced a water pump unnecessarily and cross threaded one of the nine bolts when installing. So far there are no leaks.
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The radiator was a relatively easy swap. Afterwards, I gave it a wash. The first one in at least half a year. Next week it will get an oil change and be ready to head to Jake's in a week and a half.
Nah, bring the Bronco, I wanna see some of the herd ;D
I miss my Bronco. Stupid move on my part. What was I thinking ???
Brent
Yup, I once owned a '68 and a '74. Sometime life takes strange twists when the twisted ends don't meet. :-X
Some of those old square body Bronco's are currently listed for sale at $30K, 40K, 50K, or more... :o
I don't want to hear about it. no_no
It's been a long time since anybody has posted here. I guess folks are getting gun shy and just keeping it to themselves. ;D
Well I restarted the shop stove for a morning warmup and was cleaning up a bit and found this crate.
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I had set that on the floor behind the stove and put a small fan on it to send warm air down near the front of the shop where I had a project curing. I guess it was a bit too close during a morning burn out stage and I never saw it. I don't worry too much about that stuff because of concrete floors and block walls around the stove. Guess I should pay more attention.... maybe.
All I can say, is wow.
Was getting ready to leave for a mobile job this morning and was a little distracted because of the weather.
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Just before heading out the door, I decided I needed to move a pack of sharp blades to the other side of the garage for safety. I leaned them up against the router table and reached for something. Apparently I got to close the a blade 🤷♂️ and had to call the customer to reschedule while I go get stitches.
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Got you good Crossroads! I hope it heals nicely.
Tom's milk crate reminded of something dumb I did a couple years ago on vacation...
We were road tripping around California, just me and my lovely wife. We stopped along CA-1 at a hotel, near Santa Cruz, if I'm recalling properly, for the night. The weather was a bit overcast but not too cold. We got in our room and just kind of set our stuff down along the wall, normal junk like our luggage, a backpack or two and we were just hanging out. There was a heater built into the wall, the likes of which I'd never seen, a big toaster of sorts, that had a thermostat on it. As the evening went on it got a little chilly, so I turned the thermostat up a bit so it kicked on as the room got colder, so I didn't have to wake up in the middle of the night. Kick on it did, at maybe 2am or so. I never noticed getting cold or anything but I did notice some terrible smell that woke me up. Turns out I'd tried, almost successfully, to burn the hotel down as the heater was trying real hard to set a plastic coating on one of my backpacks on fire. I guess I set it down much too close to the heater. Doesn't seem like much but that's one of the times in my life I've been most scared, for us and everyone else in the hotel.
It should heal good, I got in there and scrubbed it out good. Got updated on my tetanus shot. No stitches though just a blob of glue. Kinda looks like a pair of boots I repaired with shoe goo. My bandaid didn't want to stick because of the mineral oil on my hands, so I got out the supper 33 electrical tape and put a couple of wraps over the bandaid. The nurse was impressed and said she "loves the logger bandage " 👍🏻
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First aid? You mean whisky and duct tape? :D
A proper course of disinfection keeps cognition at bay.
On a positive note at least you know you have the sharpener dialed in good. ;D
Lol, yeah that one was sharp.
Amazing how duct tape and electrical tape can stick to about anything, but a bandaid has to pretty much have a prepped surface to stick.
I have seen electrical tape that wouldn't stick to anything. Not even itself! If you want the skin to come off with the band-aid, duct tape is just the thing.
I used to work with a crusty old electrician, he always said super 33 is the only real electrical tape.....
And he was and still is correct, 3M Scotch 33.
I did something dumb by not inspecting the kid's car. Bear with me a long but good story:
Prom night baby! My son, junior in high school, has prom tonight. Maybe you've read of his adventures in driving? First time he went out driving (unlicensed) we get pulled over by the cops. Two hours after he got his real license we get pulled over by the cops. Now, prom night.
He's coming to my house, from theater rehearsal, to pick up his suit. He's driving a 2007 dodge caliber. It's junk but fine for a kid, at least up until about an hour ago when I get a phone call.
He says "dad I'm in the middle of the turn onto Dayton-Farmersville (from Rt 4 a busy 2 lane road) and my axle isn't attached to my transmission, at least that's what the guy that stopped said" I told him to make sure he was standing in a safe spot and he said that the guy said he'd need a tow truck. I have a backhoe, so off I go.
It's probably about 3/4 of a mile down the way so, luckily, he was close. I arrive to find he couldn't have got to a better spot in this intersection, it's a big intersection and his car is mostly on the Dayton-Farmersville part so traffic can actually move everywhere without much trouble. There was another guy that pulled up as I was pulling up (then the cops showed up too) and he helped lookout and hook up chains (thanks good Samaritan!) and I dragged her back home. He got very lucky, he was likely doing over 50mph seconds earlier and travels on the highway pretty frequently. I'm assuming this much rust is not conducive to fixing the problem and that I'm now on the hunt for a new(er) car.
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Oops, glad he kept it out of the ditch and was close to home
Am I the only one that thinks about changing the title of this to "I do something dumb every day"?
Glad he didn't get hurt and heck yeah on the tow rig 💪
Quote from: customsawyer on April 22, 2023, 06:54:06 PM
Am I the only one that thinks about changing the title of this to "I do something dumb every day"?
Or "Which Dumb Thing Do I Report Today?"
Then there is the school of thought that says "if you are not making mistakes, you aren't doing anything."
Well now it's my turn to make entry into this post. I picked up my shiny brand new lt50 wide on Thursday the 20th. The first project is to edge old oak barn siding into random widths to use in our house. Friday went well, other than being rusty. Oh yeah, I forgot, I couldn't seem to make the head travel forward. I started to look for issues. After a few minutes, I realized it was only the speed control switch was turned off ::) Then yesterday on Saturday, I was still edging, reversing the head back when an edging got caught and fell down onto the cat track, resulting in a broken link. :-\
I could change it to "at least one of us did something dumb today".
I didn't share my truck wheels coming off my truck from last week here, but I'm sure most of you saw it on the diesel truck thread. In case you didn't, here it is. I got the truck back recently and it only cost me an $85 tow and $650 for the repair. I do not have a back hoe and even if I did, towing it on our curvy rural hwy is probably not a good idea and I would have another story to share how I did something dumb.
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Rooster - did it break a piece or just come apart? Those are made to remove and install in line through a series of secret Ninja moves that must be perfectly executed. YouTube University is a good resource to learn the soucery.
I have had that happen on my jeep when I broke the axle. I ended up using a couple ratchet straps and a high lift jack handle strapped across the sidewall with copius amounts of lube to drive it back to camp to fix.
I have a buddy that does pretty serious rock crawling. He said when something like that happens to a jeep out on the trail, they just have another one drive right next to them tire to tire to keep it pushed in to get back to somewhere to work on it.
That only works on wide trails :) great idea though. I never thought of doing that.
I like the backhoe tow truck idea (maybe use no-mar chains next time). :D
I used my backhoe like that way back in the day to pull a non running tractor (that may have rolled away from me into a ditch). :-X
FFOTS good to see your OK. I've seen wheels come off before, and it's scary to say the least. :o
Egad. I have seen enough mishaps to just call AAA. Towing by chain is illegal in Virginia now, but in the countryside the deputies will probably let it go.
My version of the saying is: "If you're not making mistakes, you aren't really trying."
And this thread should be called "A compendium of dumb things you can do for fun and video profit."
Well that explains why down this way guys are using ropes to tow now. :D
Southside,
The top "tie strap" broke, as well as the connection on the inside of the link
rustic- That's interesting about chains. There was a Sheriff's Deputy standing there while we were putting the chain on, but we were also real close to home. Seeing some of the junk other people around me consider a trailer though makes me know that our little chain was way safer than some of that.
Listen. I don't want you to get discouraged or nuthin, ok? But, do u no who u r up against? I'm backwoodsboy and I'm the world's undisputed champeen at doing more dumb stuff per day and for more consecutive (27,011) days in a row than all other competitors combined. So, no offense, but this is my kingdom.
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Fill in you location so we'll know where to avoid becoming collateral damage!!! smiley_wavy smiley_jester
The idea behind the chain towing ban is that if the chain breaks or comes off suddenly, it becomes a deadly whip.
I know a guy who had that happen, shattered the rear window in his PU and nearly sent him to the afterlife.
Guys here and there are killing themselves by using drop-down hitches as attachment points when pulling or being pulled out of stuck. Those things break off and come through windshields, even truck caps and rear windows.
Gee guys, I ain't calling nobody a liar, and I know no one here would exaggerate ;D but I have broken a lot of chains (I'd rather not get into it) and I have never seen one fly. They just part and lay down. (I could interject a line here about a gal I once knew, but it's a family site.) Now tow straps on the other hand are like rubber bands on steroids and will surely fly with a lot of energy, which can be quite energetic and distracting. Put a nylon strap in line with a chain or a trailer hitch or big shackle and you have a super weapon with no remorse. I just don't understand the chain ban.
@backswoodsboy them are some pretty strong words. You might just best be reading all the (72) pages of this thread to see who your competition is before you proclaim yourself 'champeen'. We all have our weak moments and make mistakes that draw blood, grease, oil, sparks, or worse, but nobody is in here for the competition aspect. I would be happy to count myself a loser in your race to be the best. ;D :D I haven't seen any posts in this thread from you in the past so to be polite, lets just say I am dubious of your claim. (But I will make note of your location when you add it, just to be on the safe side. You don't, by chance, live in WV do you? Just askin'.)
I am not the expert here. all my family has been involved using heavy equipment and ive heard the stories. I think if you are smart, you tension the chain and then pull. if the chain is on the ground, and you "hit it" and it breaks, it may go way in the air and flow down on your head. My uncle Steve running heavy equipment, had one break. he anticipated it and ducked down in the cab as the chain went trough the front and rear glass. My brother prefers steel rope/cable. when pullin smaller 8 inch stumps at the property I had in Fort Hays, we put the chain over a 15 inch steel wheel to give some up lift on the stump. the guy before had a nursery and many trees froze and there were many stumps all over the yard. prob. pulled over a hundred that way with my dads 1970 heavy half chevy. I have a 70 foot half inch chain I got on clearance. been broke several times. not high quality. never killed yet, but I think about it every time I use it. sometimes pull use the dump truck with the bed raised up. If I tug, I carefully raise the energy to see what is happening. If a tug makes your gut hurt where the seat belt runs across, you are in for some trouble. :)
I'm pretty new to moving stuff with chains but I've been fortunate. My chain use this time was more to lift the car and it rolled nicely the short drive I had home. No worries on that end. I did break a chain a couple times trying to unstick the backhoe, where I'd wrapped around a tree then to the hoe bucket. Not a whole lot of excitement on that, just broke and my astonishment that I hadn't moved an inch... I've certainly seen all the TV shows where they love to have the camera man standing much too close to a chain that's strapped around a 20000 lb. rock or something, when those pop, seems like it gets a bit sketchy.
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I can only give u an approximate location. My fans, God bless 'em, lose control and become like rioting school girls like when the Beatles did the Ed Sullivan Show, when they get close to me. Sorry, too, that there is no way to be entirely free from the wake of my destructive path. I hear you, though, and wish I knew how to avoid myself as well. North America, sometimes. Chile, Barbados, Hankow and the Philippines, too, provide some relief.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 25, 2023, 11:17:23 AMYou don't, by chance, live in WV do you? Just askin'.)
Let's put it this way. Yes. WV is one of the places I've been ordered not to visit ever again.
U understand I hope, how I hate to brag, but quite honestly, I can't claim personal credit for my achievements in this field. I was born this way. Yes, I have trained hard, hit the books diligently to excel, but it is a gift more than anything. Alright then. I have to blow up a saw again. Later.
OK
Synthetic arborist rope (used for tree pulling) is supposed to be the safest, as far as snapping back at the person using it. It's designed so no energy is stored in the strands if it breaks. Though it is pricey from what I've read.
I was taught to put the chain through a 5'-6' piece of pipe to keep snap back from happening and to keep the towed and tower's vehicles from hitting each other. However, I now have road side assistant for my vehicles. :)
Well it's been a long time for me here so I guess I am due. I guess my head wasn't in the game today as much as it needed to be. I measured twice and transposed some digits in my head and mis-cut two grooves in the bottom of a shelf by 2 inches.
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Just to be consistent, I did it on both ends. ;D
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As you can see, I cut some ERC for contrast and fitted them to the incorrect slots, glued them in and sanded it all flush. We'll just call it a 'accent feature' instead of a mistake. :D
Good idea.. 8) I like that.
I like the fix. looks very nice. and consistency is key :)
My Dad always said that the Hallmark of a good carpenter was being able to hide your mistakes. Good cover.
Wud
If you play the wrong note, do it again, and we have jazz.
Quote from: Don P on May 14, 2023, 06:37:16 AM
If you play the wrong note, do it again, and we have jazz.
Yeah, that was kind of my thought too Don. Two great music teachers and performers I know would say "There are no wrong notes, what matters is picking the notes to follow the one you just played.
Obviously the mistake had me pretty upset after what I paid for that Sycamore. I usually measure 3 times or more, then put pencil marks and check before I cut on stuff like that. But the bar is down on the floor and I am working on the shelf up in the loft shop and I was too lazy to carry it down and back up for a pre-cut check. Actually, in person, the contrast does look good and I may use it in other stuff. ;D
If you don't point out your mistakes with wood, most would not notice. ;)
I always like contrasting woods. thats why a bunch of my projects are walnut and hickory or walnut and spalted maple. the dark and light really make a project pop.
Good God Tom! :snowball: It looks more interesting with the repair. that is nice straight grained ERC. looks like red aniline dyed Oak.
my turn I guess. Yesterday stuff built under the turner on my mill It wouldnt return to below the deck. Pulled on it and it returned The end of my little finger is bright blue for the first inch. Today I didn't relieve the pressure on the gas can before filling the chainsaw. Got a faceful of gas. Had safety glasses on which saved my eye. Went into the house to wash my face. Used the pump soap dispenser and got an eyeful of soap. Things happen in 3s so hope I am done for awhile.
Goodness trapper! I hope you gave up after that, some days it's better to stay in bed. I hope you are OK!
I just bought a new weedeater and it made a bunch of noise, in the manual, about fuel geysering. I know pressure builds up in gas cans or tanks but I've never seen it shoot out. The pressure does seem to pop the top off my 50:1 can when I start loosening the cap.
If the gas can spout is long and in the gas the surface of the non-spout gas acts like a hydraulic cylinder pushing the gas up through the spout. I drill a small hole at the top of the spout and orient it up when pouring. This relieves the pressure. If the can has a vent open it first.
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Took me 5 years, but I finally did it!
It will buff out. :D
Was someone watching you mill?
Was someone making annoying comments at the time? That's when I cut into mine...
Better late than never. :D
Lol, yes there were whitenesses. Nothing a new 5/8" bolt won't fix 😝
You can reverse the rollers, repeat and tell people they came from the factory that way to provide extra traction. ;)
At least you still have both tips on your log turner claw. :D
A carriage bolt with the square part rounded off so it slides in gives you another 3/8" or more of safety margin, or so I have been told. ;D
Taking the bolt right off,.. I'm impressed!
mh
Actually there is no need for a carriage bolt. Mine has been nicely rounded off by the blade. ::)
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Plus you get those unique geometric patterns on the roller. :o
I need to rotate the bolt on mine 90°. Then if I hit it just right again I'll be able to use either a flat or phillips screw driver.
Are there any teeth left on the blade?
GAB
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Had a bit of a close call today. Still need to the get the log wrested back on the carriage.
And here I thought only bandsaw mills had that problem. ;D
My contribution to help keep the thread going... I discovered recently that my local hardware store sells male and female repair ends for 5/8" garden hose.
(You can buy them individually, or you can buy them in multiples...) :-X
I buy only the brass ones.
I bought one of those plastic ones because they was cheapy. Wife ran over it the next week and broke it.
I bought a brass one and we can run them over all we want now. ;)
I make up a lot of short hoses for the wife. When I was at the hardware store working, I got the discount and I have a coffee can full of both males and females.
So I asked my wife to help me saw today.... after a while she had a comment. She said watching me saw she was learning a lot of " things"....how to do things, and how "not!" to do things. ::) I maybe wasted 30 minutes trying to load a short log I failed to have staged correctly.. She made fun of me a little.... :-[
I still was glad for her help....
I wasn't even finished doing this thing and I already thought to myself I was going to have to post here. I was backing the tractor into the mill carport and at the same time I was raising the forks. I guess I was paying too much attention to backing and not enough to what my right hand was doing. Well, it was still raising the forks...as high as they would go. I heard a metal on metal crash and looking back to the front to see that I had smashed the front of the carport with the forks. It was mostly fixed within 20 minutes and a couple walks to the shop for ladder, drill and bits. Still a little ripple in the metal trim piece, but I won't tell anyone if you guys don't.
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That might be a good spot to hang the flag. ;D
You're not alone FFOTS, if I had a dollar for all the mishaps I've seen involving raised tractor loaders or forklifts... ::)
Had a blade on my mill sawing yesterday start making the dreaded tick - tick noise. You would think the smart thing to do is change blades right then, right? ???
Nope, just kept sawing. Tick - tick - tick - (guess what came next...) BANG! :D
Quote from: Resonator on May 23, 2023, 01:50:50 PM
That might be a good spot to hang the flag. ;D
You're not alone FFOTS, if I had a dollar for all the mishaps I've seen involving raised tractor loaders or forklifts... ::)
Had a blade on my mill sawing yesterday start making the dreaded tick - tick noise. You would think the smart thing to do is change blades right then, right? ???
Nope, just kept sawing. Tick - tick - tick - (guess what came next...) BANG! :D
That's a gullet crack, discussed in detail in this thread: Gullet cracks (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=120222.msg1932254#msg1932254)
FFOTS- I feel you on bending new metal. My barn was built and I went out to dig a drainage ditch around it, then fill it in. Brand new $50k+ barn and I ran the backhoe into it several time trying to get too close. I've also made a mess of one of the sliding door tracks. I think I can fix it but it'll have to be removed and hammered out.
FFOTS, I'm not being picky but then again, yes I am.
The first thing I noticed in that pic was the US flag displayed incorrectly.
Whether hanging horizontally or vertically, the union (blue field with stars) is supposed to be in the upper left corner!
I guess that was instilled in me over the time in the military!
Other than that, good to hear there wasn't more damage done!
Chuck, to be fair, you can't tell from the photo which end of that shelter is the front, so it may in fact be displayed correctly. I have seen so many egregious examples of poor flag display that this one is completely minor, if in fact it really is incorrect.
The ones that really kill me are the businesses and private homes that hang a flag out 24/7 with no lighting and no care. It hangs until it falls apart, rain, snow, darkness, whatever. I have a sore spot on this issue also, since I was a kid. I had been known to take down flags on homes, fold them (properly) and lay them by the front door with a note on why I took it down and a booklet from the USMC on flag etiquette. But I got caught once when somebody thought I was stealing their ragged and tattered flag. An argument ensued, the cops were called, and I got in real hot water with my folks. BTW, the responding Officer was a Marine and was pretty sympathetic when he saw the note and pamphlet I had ready to leave with the flag. No charges filed, the flag did NOT go back up (it got replaced) and the Officer explained to the homeowner that although my methods were wrong, my intent was spot on. He kind of made the homeowner feel a little silly.
Chuck it is good for you to comment if you thought it may be incorrect. occasionally I have had our flag get ragged, and a fellow scout leader makes a respectful comment. I do know on uniforms the flag patch on the sleeves are oriented as if the wearer is carrying a flag on a staff and running forward. I know most if not all FF members are generally patriotic and we thank all military past and present as well as first responders.
United States Flag Code - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code)
Position and Manner of Displaying the Flag (flagcenter.com) (https://www.flagcenter.com/flag-etiquette/position-and-manner-of-displaying-the-flag/)
OGH I like your post.
While reading the post from FFOTS, I did note that he was backing into the carport, so that was my starting point.
It's just one of those things that I am quick to notice when a flag is displayed incorrectly.
While the flag can be viewed from both sides, I suppose that it is seen more from my driveway side. As for me, I see just as often from either side. My mill is directly behind the flag. My carport is not visible from the road and the flag hangs for me to see. I will change it around though, because you are correct. We have a very large flag that we hang from our ladder truck sometimes. We have had people tell us it is hanging incorrectly. There is no wrong or right way when the flag is displayed from the ladder and it is just as visible from one side or the other. Thanks for pointing it out.
Quote from: Resonator on May 23, 2023, 01:50:50 PM
That might be a good spot to hang the flag. ;D
You're not alone FFOTS, if I had a dollar for all the mishaps I've seen involving raised tractor loaders or forklifts... ::)
Had a blade on my mill sawing yesterday start making the dreaded tick - tick noise. You would think the smart thing to do is change blades right then, right? ???
Nope, just kept sawing. Tick - tick - tick - (guess what came next...) BANG! :D
Congratulations on getting the very last bit of mileage available in that blade.
Now you don't have to wonder how much longer it would have lasted had you changed it earlier.
Hope it wasn't too challenging to replace.
GAB
Nonpolitical, but there's a house I drive past just about every day that has 2 flags hanging from poles off a post on their porch. An American and a Ukrainian.
I wouldn't be mentioning it here if the correct one was on top. I don't see the homeowners outside very often, and I've never met them, but I've almost stopped a few times to correct it.
I asked my kids, separately, what was wrong with those flags. My older son (16) didn't know, my younger daughter (14) did.
Sadly, if we parents are not careful, they may be taught to hate the country and our symbols in school.
That's the other flag I display.
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QuoteCongratulations on getting the very last bit of mileage available in that blade.
It had been to resharp and back already, so I got my moneys worth out of it. The main reason I posted was to caution sawyers out there that when it starts the dreaded tick - tick - tick noise, change the blade, or watch out for what comes next... :o
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 24, 2023, 04:23:08 PM
That's the other flag I display.
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The flag of Silesia?
Well, its the Ukrainian flag. Never heard of Silesia. Looked it up and they essentially have the same flag. Ukraine is blue on top and yellow bottom. Silesia is reversed. When hanging the Ukrainian flag vertically its supposed to be blue to the left.
I carried this flag over unfriendly soil and later it was flown over The Capitol. Now she hangs in my mill shed, it's the only lit area on the farm at night.
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I dare someone to say that ain't pretty. smiley_bull_stomp
What I don't like, is the blue or red line on the flag nowadays.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 24, 2023, 05:30:37 PM
Well, its the Ukrainian flag. Never heard of Silesia. Looked it up and they essentially have the same flag. Ukraine is blue on top and yellow bottom. Silesia is reversed. When hanging the Ukrainian flag vertically its supposed to be blue to the left.
That makes sense, thanks for clearing that up!
Quote from: Peter Drouin on May 25, 2023, 06:22:00 AM
What I don't like, is the blue or red line on the flag nowadays.
Or blacked out stripes with some other message over the stripes.
hugs, Brandi
better to have a larger us flag on top and then a smaller flag supporting the police or POWs just below.
This was a couple of weeks ago and has since been replaced but...
I was running the trucut96 mill through the motions as we hadn't run it in a couple of weeks. I get to the up/down functions and there was a slight resistance, I looked up and couldn't see anything wrong. As soon as I re-engaged *BANG* and the head came crashing down.
The gear housing completely broke apart. The cause? A Robins nest. An opportunistic bird took the mills downtime to build a nest on the sprocket. It was strong enough to create enough pressure between the sprocket and chain to totally destroy the housing.
Not a cheap fix.
Needless to say, a wildlife check has been added to the morning rituals.
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Ouch!
hugs, Brandi
That bird must've had a nickname with the other birds: the Rockin' Robin!
Pretty sure that's the true definition of Eco Terrorism there.
That hurts
Pretty sure it wasn't that good for the bird either, but the bird just had to get back to work and make another nest with no financial consequences. Sorry man, that's weird and bizarre.
Yeah I did something dumb today. I attempted to get into Zion National Park. Had my $80.00 all parks season pass ready in hand . About a half a dozen cars from the toll both and they shut it down. No more cars allowed to enter. I was pithed to say the least. They said the park was gridlocked. We waited for over a half hour in line only to be turned away. I understood and it is what it is. Should've known better than to go there on Memorial weekend. We saw cars parked on both sides of the road for 4-5 miles before the park and people walking towards the park. "Here's your sign dummy"
Brent
Wow, that's for the birds 🤓
Bummer dude! I hope you found other interesting things to do the rest of the day.
Well, as promised in my Croatia post, here is my dumb thing for today. We drove from Dubrovnik to Split today. To get there you can either drive 15km thru Bosnia or drive over the very new bridge to avoid Bosnia. We wanted to say we were in Bosnia. We stopped at a little supermarket and bought several packages of salami, sliced cheese, 4 bottles of juice, box of cookies, bag of chips, bottle of wine and it cost $18. Very cheap shopping in Bosnia for your information. So here comes the dumb part. When we reached the end of the bridge we decided to drive over it for fun. I made a left turn thinking it was to go on the bridge, but it was a dead end road. A cop pulled in behind me and told me I can't make a left turn over a solid line. He said get your passport and come with me, I give you ticket and you pay now. That turn cost 30 euros. Won't make that mistake again, but not too bad. He was very nice and assured me I wasn't in any trouble and I needn't fear the police like in America. That was sad. Then he asked about my name and was interested in my family history. He told me the way to get to the bridge and that this one time he would allow me to make a left turn out of where we were even though I had to cross a solid white line. It was a beautiful drive and I love the mountains here. I had no idea it was so mountainous.
You're driving on the right there?
Bummer on the fine, but any landing you walk away from :D
Stairs, what stairs?
You would think he would of gave you a break and told you what you did wrong. ???
At first I thought maybe he was just going to warn me, but then he said come with I give you ticket.
Yes they drive on the right here.
Croatia post? How about a link?
hugs, Brandi
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=122087.msg1984046#msg1984046
Well, speaking of tickets... I got one on the way to a meetup in Columbus, on Saturday. You'd think the 5 State Troopers I'd seen in about 20 miles would have encouraged me to slow down... I was more or less going with traffic but he got me at 82 in a 65. Not sure how long it takes them to put the ticket into their system, I went to pay it online today and when I click my info and pay online it said I had nothing to pay.
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Thanks Doc!
hugs, Brandi
QuoteI was more or less going with traffic but he got me at 82 in a 65.
17 over, yeah they will likely do a traffic stop.
Depending on where you're driving, usually (
but not always), a trooper will give you up to 8 mph over the speed limit before they will stop you. "Doin' 8, I'll let you skate. Doin' 9, boy you're mine". (Old speed trap saying). ;D
So, today I was driving thru Zagreb Croatia and we were trying to navigate to our apartment. This town is crazy. The stop lights, the little cars and motorcycles zooming everywhere, there are street cars to worry about and their tracks to drive on. There's nowhere to park to pull over to see where the heck you are and where you need to go and of course there are ONE WAY STREETS.
We passed up...brb. Sorry, I had to walk Cindy outside to the car to get something. It's a little scary, not only because she smashed her finger in a door when we got here.
So, we passed up the room and had to go around the block. I came to an intersection and turned left. Just as I did my son said "this is a one way street". My son who is not doing well learning to drive recognized a one way street in a foreign country before I did. Well I recognized it pretty quickly because there were 100 cars going the other way. I had to pull over into a bike lane and think about making a U turn. Took about a minute to realize that wasn't happening. I had to back out to the intersection with all the cars honking at me. No harm done other than may have made someone late for their dinner. Phew. We got that car parked and aren't moving it til we leave here on Monday morning.
Sounds like the old joke where the wife calls the husbands cell and says: "Watch out, the news said there's some idiot driving the wrong way on the freeway!" He says: "Just one? I see hundreds!" :D
I've heard there are frontage roads along freeways in certain states where they only run one way. And if go to one of the addresses on these roads you're not familiar with, and then turn out of their driveway a certain direction, you can end up having to find a place to do a fast turn around. :-X
Well Bill, at least you didn't get a ticket this time! :D Sorry to hear about Cindy's finger, I hope that doesn't put a crimp in her trip for very long. Those can really smart and for a while too.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on June 03, 2023, 03:15:41 PM
So, today I was driving thru Zagreb Croatia and we were trying to navigate to our apartment. Phew. We got that car parked and aren't moving it til we leave here on Monday morning.
It is an Avenger!! Think of all the stories you two will have when you get home, Don.t forget the pixs. ;D
Hope the fingers get well soon, smiley_wavy
The tip of her finger is black and blue and she bled a little bit, but she only had a bandaid on for a few hours. She is fine now.
Right. The last thing I needed was a ticket.
We have seen a few one way streets in the country but not many. Even many single lane streets are 2 way. Wasn't used to it when I got here. This is the biggest city. One quarter of the population lives here. There's only 4 million people.
I'd bet points in Zagreb stay in Zagreb, and the car is insured too, you aren't the first American there. The tickets are just your part to help the local economy. Have fun :).
You're probably right about points and yes I was happy to support the economy and the local emergency services
My turn...again.
Looking out the kitchen window I saw a groundhog visiting my garden. I went out the door, got a rock and heaved it. Right next to the garden I have an old Semi Trailer backed up against a small hill for storage. The rock was supposed to go over the trailer or land on the roof to scare the groundhog. I managed to hit the window cut into the side to allow light inside the trailer. 1' wide by 2' tall and I hit it with the accuracy of a laser guided missle. Broke the pane of glass.
I used to play a lot of baseball, but I am certainly minor league now.
Good shot. Did you scare the groundhog?
Probably couldn't have hit it if you were aiming, sounds like my luck :D.
They are going through the "deer fence" we have around the garden like it was made out of recycled shopping bags. I have some tensar geotex grid over one area, that seems to work, no idea what it costs now though.
I put a two string electric fence around my garden to end whistle pigs eating more than we do...
I had to replace my old Stihl saw and after 2 years I am still getting used to the new one. I put a new chain on and went to saw some ash logs for firewood. The saw started fine, but while warming up had a rattly noise I hadn't heard before. I didn't think too much about it a tried to saw. The chain seemed to come up to speed but had absolutely no power to cut. ??? I tried a couple times and nothing. I thought for sure the clutch was bad, but how could that be on such a new saw? I pulled the cover and quickly realized I had managed to put the chain in the narrow gap between the drive sprocket and its retainer. Put the chain on right and I was good to go. ;D
In my defense, this is the first saw I have had that had with a drive sprocket that can be replaced independent of the clutch housing.
Doug in SW Ia
My turn this weekend.
Washed my chainsaw pants. That wasn't dumb - they almost stood up by themselves.
Also washed my work pants. That wasn't dumb either. They were not much better.
Checked all the pockets. That certainly wasn't dumb. One set of keys, 2 sockets, a scrench and my Swiss Army knife were saved from (another) trip through the washer. Oh, and 2lbs of wood chips from the chainsaw pants.
Slight detour while we are on that topic - and I'm sure many of you are the same - but throughout the cutting season from September through April, our back entrance (dark tile) usually looks like someone spilled a bag of oatmeal. There are always wood chips on the floor. No matter how often you brush off, they just come in with us. No avoiding them. But they are clean dirt, so we vacuum them up every day or two and life goes on.
Anyway - tossed in all my work shirts and tossed in the cleaning rags, and ran the wash.
Opened the washer and OMG! Those micro-fibre cleaning rags? Do the EVER like wood chips. Each rag was jam packed with chips. No matter how hard I tried, I could not get them off. Wood fibre embedded in the micro-fibres with an attraction more tenacious than gravity. Turns out I had not emptied a side pocket on the chainsaw pants. I never use it so never checked it for tools. It was full of chips :(. Until the micro fibre clothes got hold of them...
At least all those wood chips were "collected " and didn't go through the rest of the washer.
I've heard if you pour the detergent directly on a stained shirt, it will come out with kind of a spotty cow hide pattern of clean and stained fabric. :-X
I always do a quick check of the bottom of the washing machine tub (around the base of the agitator), for anything that fell out in the wash cycle. Gravel, woodchips, guitar picks, and of course money. (I think that's where the term "money laundering" came from). ;D
You should see what happens when you miss a lumber crayon in a pocket. ::)
Ya, especially if the crayon makes it to the DRYER! :o
Lumber crayon that's just kids stuff, try a hot pink 1 inch diameter livestock paint stick..... or Orange or red, or green.... large animal Veterinary coats have many pockets, as do the bib overalls underneath... Sometimes they smell bad enough you want them in the wash asap and it's the wee hours of the morning or someone is asking you fourteen questions. Then you find out later when you now have dark green/ brown duck coveralls with paint stick highlights. Oh yes and the ladies associated with whatever wash machine are very cheerful afterwards. :)
Those micro fiber rags like to pick up pet hair and recycled bits of plant material in the wash machine too..
As well as they work on cattle and clothing those livestock sticks don't work worth a darn on lumber. Tried it once thinking I wouldn't need lumber crayons.
I did something dumb by not listening to you guys to try to hog out more material on the cutting board I'm still making for my sister.
I showed pictures somewhere (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=119201.msg1925780#msg1925780) of this router table breaking (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=119201.msg1925902#msg1925902) and the router trying to kill me, and I beefed it all up and tried again, again, not listening to the sage wisdom here and blind routing the underside of this piece. Well, I was taking very minor swipes and it was going fine (I've got stops built in so the piece wouldn't ever come out of the hole I was making, other than a line I drew on the front of the table to say "stop here") until I was moving the thing around and to shut the router off to readjust and the bit grabbed a side of the cutting board (I probably was lifting it a bit, maybe?) and spun the whole piece around a bit, like a pinball it bounced from side to side and stopped. I quickly stopped the router, set the piece aside after finding minimal unfixable damage, and made myself a stiff cocktail. This table is probably 4' x 3' and much too big. I've decided, at this point, I'll cut it in half and use it as a normal router table, rather than this death trap that I'm trying to use it as. The real dumb part is my router sled was 2 steps up a ladder away. That is the correct method.
I don't like routers much.
The router and its big sister, the shaper, are fickle mistresses! When they work good it's all sunshine, when they go wrong it can be really wrong!
Using a 1/2 hp Porter Cable router, I hit a knot that shattered on a piece of pine. The shards when every direction. When I shut it off, a hissing sound caught my attention. A piece of the knot stuck in a plastic pipe in my compressed air piping. :o I'm just glad none of it hit me.
When I was in 8th grade shop class we were making clocks, and cutting the circular trim, for the face, out with some crazy attachment for a drill press, if I recall properly. The attachment came out of drill press, then took a 90 degree turn, parallel to the drill press stage, then it took another 90 degree turn down, where it had some cutting/shaping/knifey thing, so I think you could adjust the horizontal piece to vary the distance from center on the piece you were cutting. Anyway, we weren't allowed to use that attachment, so I'm standing about 5 feet away, watching the shop teacher when a chunk of wood the size of a roll of quarters came flying off and hit me square in the forehead.
Quote from: Southside on June 19, 2023, 08:32:18 PM
You should see what happens when you miss a lumber crayon in a pocket. ::)
Been there done that.
QuoteYa, especially if the crayon makes it to the DRYER!
Been there done that too.
Quote from: aigheadish on June 20, 2023, 03:13:00 PM
When I was in 8th grade shop class we were making clocks, and cutting the circular trim, for the face, out with some crazy attachment for a drill press, if I recall properly. The attachment came out of drill press, then took a 90 degree turn, parallel to the drill press stage, then it took another 90 degree turn down, where it had some cutting/shaping/knifey thing, so I think you could adjust the horizontal piece to vary the distance from center on the piece you were cutting. Anyway, we weren't allowed to use that attachment, so I'm standing about 5 feet away, watching the shop teacher when a chunk of wood the size of a roll of quarters came flying off and hit me square in the forehead.
It just wrong to "Like" a post like that but what's a guy to do? :D
That's a circle cutter and it too is an evil contrivance. I used to teach industrial arts/Tech Ed. We made clocks as well.
IIRC we used a circle cutter like that for a time. Then we switched to a circle jig on the bandsaw then sanded the circles with circle jig on the disc sander instead. We were using the round piece in our clocks.
To cut one circle the circle cutter is fine. It's not something want to tempt often. It will bite.
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Our high school shop teacher was always cautious about using wood lathe. He had a student the previous year turning a large diameter piece (maybe a tabletop) and things went bad. Even at a low rpm, the piece was still traveling many feet per minute at the outer edge. While he was gouging it, the tool dug in and cracked the wood, and it exploded. He was able to walk away, but walked away bruised... slowly. :o
Quote from: SawyerTed on June 20, 2023, 05:37:14 PM
That's a circle cutter and it too is an evil contrivance.
Yep, used them all the time rebuilding wrecked helicopters and making new instrument panels. Extremely wicked in a hand drill. I do not recommend it in a hand drill. I lost one, then someone returned it after I bought another one. So I reground the cutter on it so it would cut perfect circles and not holes.
hugs, Brandi
That's exactly it Ted! It's ok to like that post, I survived!
Well, it's my turn. I crushed my Stihl 461 chain saw with my Excavator. Not a pretty sight. I was trying to set the White Oak log on some 4x6s, to cut to length later. I had the Stihl on the far side of another tree, until I moved around the log to lift the big end. I backed in and over it and didn't feel a thing.
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I should have just moved the long (32 feet) with my Lull, but I was lazy in changing machines. The Lull, after all, lifted the log with no problem. The log is in the background.
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Does anyone offer chainsaw insurance???
hugs, Brandi
I think every logger I know has smashed at least 1 chainsaw. It's not if, it's when it will happen if you work around tree's a lot.
(I've still got the cracked shell of my MS390 still sitting in my garage after it tangled with a nasty tree years ago.) ::)
Yep. I have one in the shop now on life support. ::) Thats 2 in 20 couple years in this line of work.
A ton of log makes short work of smashing a chainsaw if it gets caught on the downhill side of the log.... Don't ask how I know but it happened about 10 years ago or so. The saw shop put it back together and it still works great.
Work in the woods or around logs long enough and something will get smashed. Murphy's Law Corollary #7.
The shop I use doesn't have any donor 461s. My crankcase is cracked anyway. Looks like a new Stihl 462 for me. Or maybe a new 500.
Sadness prevail.
hugs, Brandi
Ouch. Sorry about the 461 Brandi, but a new 462 or 500 will be nice.
Thanks guys! I guess I am now in the "Logger Smashed Chainsaw Club". I guess it could be the Smashed Logger Chainsaw Club! :D
My 461 is totaled with a cracked crankcase.
hugs, Brandi
I'm sure you could sell the trashed one on eBay for parts. It will sell.
When buying the 462 today, The Woodlands, Texas Fire & Rescue Lieutenant came into the store. He was there to buy in bulk. While talking to him, I learned every truck has a 461 on it. I asked if they ever burn the engines up. He said yes. I told him to tell the store owner and he can let me know there is a donor saw available next time that happens. So I will be keeping the 461.
hugs, Brandi
For whatever reason, we have MS280's on our trucks. We have had them for a long time.
He said the 461s are used a lot to cut through roofs. They have smaller saws, maybe 260s on the engines or visa versa with the trucks and engines. Anyway, he said the smaller saw is for walls and such.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: Resonator on June 19, 2023, 04:21:55 PM
I've heard if you pour the detergent directly on a stained shirt, it will come out with kind of a spotty cow hide pattern of clean and stained fabric. :-X
I always do a quick check of the bottom of the washing machine tub (around the base of the agitator), for anything that fell out in the wash cycle. Gravel, woodchips, guitar picks, and of course money. (I think that's where the term "money laundering" came from). ;D
My wife does not check pockets. One day she laundered one of my credit cards.
Does that count as money laundering?
GAB
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I put this in the wrong thread. Sorry!
hugs, Brandi
Ahh. We have one vent saw that is a purpose built chainsaw for venting rooves. It has a depth limiting wheel on the bar to prevent from cutting through the top cord of a truss. Other than that we use a cutoff saw. That being said, we very rarely vent rooves anymore.
I'm about to learn something... why not?
What's that?
Don, it has to do with fire dynamics being better understood recently through studies. This change was just developing around the time I left the service and it is a bit complex on how fire behave in closed spaces. If Bill has time, hopefully he can explain it accurately.
We used to believe that getting the heat out was critical and slowed or rather controlled fire spread. It created a 'chimney' for the fire to follow and slowed it's spread to other areas of the structure.
The studies that were done by NIST created many fires in abandoned identical row houses. So they could create the same fire several times but use different attack methods. They also placed many thermocouples and airflow sensors throughout these buildings. They learned a lot of remarkable things that help save a lot of firefighters lives. The one scenario that stuck in my head was a basement fire, and it turned out the best, and safest attack method was the one we had taught for years was the worst approach. Sticking a nozzle in a basement window and knocking it down was a big no-no when I was trained. I spent hours reviewing and understanding the new data collected in that study, to see why it worked out that way. Fire science is not always intuitive and although many of us refer to the fire service as "200 years of history and service unimpeded by progress". :D
Hopefully Bill can put a better explanation to it.
As far as those saws go, we always kept one with depth control fence on it on our engines. We did (in my day) use them for venting, but we also used the for other things, like opening walls with fire inside and floors for drainage. We did a miserable 3 story 150 year old hotel fire, 4 alarms, all night long and the water was 18" deep up on the second floor and realized we had better get that weigh out, so we cut scuttle holes in every room. That decision took every saw on all our trucks out of service. Turns out plunge cutting through carpet is a lot like driving a saw chain into a pair of chaps, it chokes everything up. I don't know how many of those saws Spike fixed and how many we fixed, but it was a lot. We did get the holes in, but the hotel was toast. Our main goal was to keep it from burning down everything else on Main Street (which we did, but it was a long night and the first and last time I got plastered across the back by a deck gun).
I didn't know that had changed.
My Dad's houses typically had widely spaced heavy beams for the roof with 2-1/4" thick T&G. Foam over top, 2" back then, and shingles. I was a kid but I remember they had vented one, I think before they realized they were seeing everything right there. I think had they known the construction they would have handled it differently.
My dumb one for the week, or a few weeks I think. That white thing plugged in is one of those pest be gone ultrasonic things. I saved on the 4 pack for the shop and gristmill truck box. It is supposed to drive rodents, ants, bats ,birds, and used car salesmen, insane with its high frequency squeal. That has been plugged in for 2 or 3 weeks.
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That bat was snoozing on the joist 5' directly above the "racket". Thus proving bats really don't hear ultrasonic sound. They would never sell me a useless blinky light ::).
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I made a really nice wedge with a 11" wide Ash cant yesterday. 12' long, 1.25" at one end, 3/8" at the other I walked around the the mill , apologized to the client and explained what happened. His eyes got big and he says" I can make something cool out of this"!
You never know.
mh
Quote from: moosehunter on June 26, 2023, 06:55:35 PM
I made a really nice wedge with a 11" wide Ash cant yesterday. 12' long, 1.25" at one end, 3/8" at the other I walked around the the mill , apologized to the client and explained what happened. His eyes got big and he says" I can make something cool out of this"!
You never know.
mh
Photos. We want photos or it never happened! ;D
hugs, Brandi
Not as dumb as many things I have done and no equipment or personnel damages.
I was having trailer light problems on my newly purchased truck so I bought the little HF tester for the 4 pin style connection like my boat or utility trailer use. It showed only the right turn signal was working but not the left one, lights or brakes. I used an adapter in the round one for the electric brakes with the same tester and got the same results. I took it to a local shade tree mechanic and he immediately found the socket on the end of the pigtail that goes into the "box" under the bumper was loose. It was like plugging your vacuum cleaner into a loose wall socket. It was not making good connect on the female end. He cleaned the connections and I got him to run a screw into the frame (taking care not to hit any wires) and we tested everything and it all works fine now. He said "Pay me anything" so I paid him for an hour of his labor and we both left happy.
I knew there had to be a ground or the R turn signal could not even work. I had never thought about the whole socket being loose. I assumed it was a loose or broken wire somewhere.
Trailer lights account for almost as much foul language as shins contacting trailer hitches.
Trailer lights fail in so many creative ways they could receive awards for creativity!
I just went and bought a new dump trailer, partially because I didn't want to deal with the lights on the old one😂
:D Trailer lights have caused mor grief! I don't miss laying on my back in the snow fixing those miserable madres so I could get home.
if you live in the land of the "High salt highway diet" like me, you might as well figure on replacing your trailer wires every few years. And depending on level of rust, you'll probably have to get a whole new trailer too. :D
I know on the trailers it is usually easier to just order a new wiring harness and replace them on the boat or utility trailer but I had never tried to replace the connections to the truck. This ended much better than I had hoped for.
When I back my boat trailer into the water I first unplug the lights. I am guilty of leaving the trailer in the water just far enough to run the boat back onto it. I know that is not great on the grease in the bearings and such.
I try to mount my trailer lights above the water line and also try to avoid any crimp connections from the pigtail to the lights. Soldered connections and good heat shrink will eliminate a bunch of trailer light problems. A year or so ago I mentioned using extension cords for trailer light wires, but someone explained why that was wrong and a likely a DOT infraction-my lights work on all of my trailers. This arrangement is much more durable than the imported Harbor Fright options. Black extension cords would likely not draw any attention.
On lights that do get wet, bedding the socket and the metal parts inside the light fixture in Vasoline may provide a little more longevity. A friend taught me that when I went flounder gigging with him once. He had been using the same lamp and 12v bulb for years. He also stored the bulb in a styrofoam cup.
Not sure which is more fun, trailer lights or exhaust repairs.
Southside
Trailer lights. Campbells soup cans and hose clamps make exhaust repairs cheap and easy. :D smiley_jester
I used heavy gauge roof flashing :)
Today I did some clearing for a parking spot for my flatbed and eventual pallet rack/carport. After I did what I could with the tractor I got out the chainsaw and cut some small trees and tree limbs. For the second time I threw the chain off my MS261. I was cutting some small stuff which I know is more likely to get under the chain, but it seems odd I've done it twice recently. Chain was tight. Anyway, the chain catcher now needs to be replaced. The first time I bent it back, but this time it almost got torn completely off the saw. I ordered 2 replacements from Amazon. I was using mostly the top of the bar to try and keep from throwing so much sawdust on myself.
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I was using a friends new Stihl saw (similar size, might have been same model) last winter topping a tree and it got pinched. Same thing happened, it threw the chain and did damage, might be a design flaw.
I do not have that problem with that saw, more than any other saw.
I rushed the install of this center bent last year just before first snow that came early. The center post wouldn't set all the way down. About ¾" gap. I determined it was the upper knee braces were too long which made the mini tie beams frown. So, I set about lifting the bent up so I could knock the mini ties out enough to release the braces. That also meant removing the lower knee braces.
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That went well. Actually, lifting the middle post helped to release the upper braces. However, I did shear the pin on the upper pulley on my roustabout. It's supposed to when you overload it! It came with a spare. I trimmed off about ¼" of the braces and put them back up. Then a thunderstorm came through and postponed work for 3 hours.
Went back out and put everything back down. Cleaning up, I noticed it was easier to move around, more space...
That's when I saw the two lower knee braces laying on the floor. I forgot to put them back. Got to lift the bent one more time, only didn't stress the roustabout quite so much!
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Boy did I feel dumb! Yesterday I was cutting some dead ash into firewood. It had a combination of soft punk and solid seasoned wood. I was using a 20" bar and chain but the chain was dull and missing a tooth so when I ran through a tank of gas I swapped for a brand new 24" bar and a brand new chain. It still did not cut very well and would bog down completely with a little weight on it. It cut big healthy chips but felt like there was just not enough compression/power for the job even with a new, sharp chain.
The saw is an EFCO (Italian) brand my local dealer and repair guru sells. I like to buy the equipment from my local dealer who is going to be doing the maintenance, service and repairs. It is about 6 months old and has run good up to this point. I took it to the dealer today and asked him to check the compression. He pulled it and said it felt good so he put it on the bench and pulled the cover off. Once he did that it was very obvious what most if not all the problems were. ::) The filter was entirely choked with sawdust. I don't know why I did not think of something so obvious which fully explained the symptoms. He blew out the filter and put a new foam pre-filter on it and cranked it and it revved up fine. I took it back to my log pile this afternoon and cut some more and it works fine.
Never overlook the obvious. ::)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on July 01, 2023, 05:57:19 PM
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Boy did I feel dumb! Yesterday I was cutting some dead ash into firewood. It had a combination of soft punk and solid seasoned wood. I was using a 20" bar and chain but the chain was dull and missing a tooth so when I ran through a tank of gas I swapped for a brand new 24" bar and a brand new chain. It still did not cut very well and would bog down completely with a little weight on it. It cut big healthy chips but felt like there was just not enough compression/power for the job even with a new, sharp chain.
The saw is an EFCO (Italian) brand my local dealer and repair guru sells. I like to buy the equipment from my local dealer who is going to be doing the maintenance, service and repairs. It is about 6 months old and has run good up to this point. I took it to the dealer today and asked him to check the compression. He pulled it and said it felt good so he put it on the bench and pulled the cover off. Once he did that it was very obvious what most if not all the problems were. ::) The filter was entirely choked with sawdust. I don't know why I did not think of something so obvious which fully explained the symptoms. He blew out the filter and put a new foam pre-filter on it and cranked it and it revved up fine. I took it back to my log pile this afternoon and cut some more and it works fine.
Never overlook the obvious. ::)
I did that once with my lawnmower. Not the best feeling in the world upon finding out.
hugs, Brandi
So Thursday I took a few medium Red Cedars out of a farm grove that were in the way of a cattle shed project. The first one had a hollow stem about feet up so. I was nervous about how it would behave even with a good sized payloader helping. So I studied it a bit fueled my saws and got ready. I started cutting a shallow bite of the opening face, at that point all good.
Now I must point out that I had an audience consisting of the farmer (a friend I bought my second chainsaw I ever owned 25 years ago he sold some firewood back then) his daughter my veterinary technician and her brother in law, piloting the payloader...
So as I start on the back side of the tree, I am watching and listening because I figured with the hollow stem the tree's not going to behave real well, and as soon as it moves or makes a noise I'm out of there and the payloader will take it the rest of the way over, and I will trim up to solid wood.
I had a path cleared to get back out of the way so all should be good.... The tree cracks a bit and I pull the saw out kill it and bolt backwards, then kind of catch my heal and bump the handle of the saw.... Well that finished the loosening process of the fuel cap i failed to tighten well. It dumps fuel across my crotch and down my leg. The tree stops moving so the payloader sends it on down with a little force and all is well. I look up and my tech and her dad are laughing at me because enough fuel leaked out, well it sure looked like I p ssd myself on the first tree. The other 6 trees went down just fine and pretty much landed where I wanted them to. ::)
I'm sure glad I never forgot to tighten the fuel cap on my chainsaws. (Now I just wish I could say the same thing about that oil cap. ::) Did you know it is harder to wash bar oil out of your clothes than gas? ;))
WV Sawmiller, I won a Efco on here, 50cc. I worked that saw hard for 7 years? Never had any trouble with it, never even replaced the sprocket on it. The crank broke on it. :( But it will still run!! Just the chain don't move.
If there was adealer clsoe to me, I would of bought another. I bought a husky and that thing has been to the saw doctor 3 times in 4 years.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on July 01, 2023, 08:29:54 PM
I'm sure glad I never forgot to tighten the fuel cap on my chainsaws. (Now I just wish I could say the same thing about that oil cap. ::) Did you know it is harder to wash bar oil out of your clothes than gas? ;))
Just as an after thought on this: A friend of mine spilled some gasoline in his basement once and wiped up the gas with his shop rags. Being kinda frugal, he washed them in his clothes washer and dried them in the dryer........until it blew up! Be careful with gassy rags.
I think oil caps loosen up from being overfilled, at least for me. You close the cap on that thick fluid and I think it builds a little pressure and backs it out. I've had them dump oil on me when I know darn well I screwed the cap on tight, but had overfilled it.
That's how I give my boots a semi-regular oiling - keeps 'em supple. 😉
I was on a brush fire once and fueled up the leaf blower I was using. Put it back on my back and went back to work. Luckily for me the fuel that was spilling out of the tank without its lid did not catch fire when I went back to the fireline. The blower didn't work for long before it ran out of gas again.
I was on a clean up and organization kick this morning and stacked some of my stock Bluebird nest boxes on an overhead shelf. The boxes are about 2 bf (4- 1"X6" about 12" long) of rough leftover lumber with a 1' square top/cap that slips over the box once installed. I lifted the box about 2 feet then decided to spin it 180 degrees for better stacking. I had turned the box upside down to rest on the top. The nest box slipped out and fell backwards and dropped 2' right on to my gourd. Ouch! Glad I had my ball cap on. Wish I'd had my hard hat instead. ::)
BTW and before someone else makes the comment - the nest box survived intact. :D
aha! Bird brained! 8)
Years ago I was getting something from the garage when I had a waffle iron fall on my head. I don't know why but I still laugh when I think about it.
Aig,
It has been my experience that things like that are much funnier to watch happening to others than to experience myself. ::) :D
Last Saturday went to answer my cell phone laying on the kitchen table. Knocked my jackknife off the table. It landed on my big toe. It was open. Took my wife half a roll of paper towel to stop the bleeding... Nice clean cut as it uses a scapple blade that is replicable. She is always telling me not to leave it open on the table.
Howard, it is the worst when a bluebird box or other item hits the button on top of a ball cap! Even an acorn will make a fellow see stars for a while.
No need to ask how I know, but I KNOW! :D
Ted,
I trust you completely so now I will not have to try to replicate that scenario and experience. :D
First thing I do with a ball cap is remove the button.
The rain dance worked 8)
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I was merrily ignoring the signs.
Happily just a rattle can rustoleum job but back to the box store.
I can't complain hearing other folks temperatures but it has been warm. So of course what breaks but the spring on a rollup door on the high tunnel, we've had the airflow problem! The new spring came yesterday... they make them per order the best I can tell. It arrived yesterday so we hit it this morning... and look at what they sent. He nicked it heavily while cutting the wire... and kept going. I'm getting the door up but, Un- believable.
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I finally purchased a set of pallet forks for the FEL on the tractor. I was home alone for couple days when the mount with skid steer quick connect arrived one day and the forks the next. Then mount went on no problems. The forks then had to be attached. They go on in the center where there is a cut out in the slides for the bottom clamp. Then they slide out to the position where you want them. I raised the forks to waist height to adjust the position but had a tough time sliding them likely because of the paint on the slides. So, I reached in behind one with my right arm and gave it a tug...nothing...did it again and it took off trapping my forearm up against one of the mount vertical stiffeners of the backing frame. It did not hurt much but just could not move. Well, here I stand, could not get my arm out. Tried to move the fork and get out for 10 or 15 minutes with no success and each time I tried it hurt. Finally I decided rather than gnaw my arm off I would suck it up , give the fork a hip check, and pull.
Got it out but it did not feel good.
It takes new forks a while to wear in. then after years, mine started popping off with down pressure and tipping, so a welded a 1/4 in rod onto the top bottom, to make a nice slide surface and have it not pop off.
Be absolutely certain that your forks have a high enough backstop or whatever that it is impossible to roll a log off of the back.
Amen! MM
When adjusting forks, I typically raise them high enough so I can point the forks to the ground. They slide easier that way. They don't slide well when they aren't high enough aka with tips on the ground. :o
they have pressure back when flat, as you tip them down you will see a transition and that is a neutral point.
If you spray a little chain and gear lube on the rack just behind the notched bar they will slide easier. Works better than grease and lasts longer
Fluid Film also works pretty well for this and isn't messy. Not saying that anything else is messy............... ;D
mine are set to a standard pallet width 95% of the time about 40 inches. move in for small pallets, and out to the edges for a wide pallet or log.
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If a log gets over the backstop I did something really dumb.
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Position I got stuck in. Some oil and tilting sounds like good idea when I want to adjust next time
That's not nearly as much of a backstop as you think it is. Depending on the angle your loader will go you absolutely can roll a log over those.
I would check with nothing on the loader how much she tips back at full lift.
Speaking from experience here.
I really really like my grapple attachment for logs, and leave the forks for sawn stuff. Logs on forks are kind of scary, I would vote for bolt on extensions to catch a disaster from rolling over the edge at you it happens in a flash. Ask the side of hood of my my bigger tractor. Too long to explain now happened years ago with a brush pile of odd firewood logs. Grapple buckets are money well spent in my opinion...
Quoteand out to the edges for a wide pallet or log.
Yes X2. Having recently tried picking up freshly debarked pine logs (slippery) with the forks slid together narrow... ::)
the top guard looks a little light. sorry to criticize your attachment. I would consider going strait up the sides and go higher to increase the strength and height of the guard. To be blunt, if a log up in the air rolls over the guard, it will be in your lap and it will be much worse than the arm. I will try to get a pic of mine. what is the weight rating for that set?
Frozen logs with no bark on forks are like trying to catch a greased pig and can get a bit frustrating.
I assume the issue you guys are worried about is when stacking or unstacking logs high up on a pile?
My loader bucket has an anti-back-dumping position (surely not the official name) that decreases the tilt of the bucket as the bucket is raised to help prevent such an issue. This is on my backhoe and may not be a feature for other tractors and such.
I've moved some logs around with the forks or while chained to the loader bucket but it's never appeared to be close to an issue of having them roll back on me. I understand what you are talking about and any of my piles are typically way shorter than some I've seen in lumber yards or around mills...
I'm by no means saying that you guys aren't right! Just curious to know the situation this becomes a problem.
tractor loaders arms are not designed originally to have forks and at top height and tipped back, a log can roll down the loader arms if the backstop goes below horizontal. to find out, you raise it up as high as they go and tip them back. if you are aware, it is safer, but not assured.
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on a slight uphill grade so still a bit of slope to keep a log on the forks. if a log did roll back, I have a cab to protect me some and the log at full up would roll past the cab and crush the motor compartment although more likely hit the loader arm attachments.
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guard made of square tubing and 3/8th inch flat bar. the carriers are half inch material with lots of reinforcement. rated at 4K. my first set were 2k and I bent them in the first week. if you can, lift to the top and tip back, and lets us see that pic. with an open cab, and only ROPS, the operator would have to be keenly aware of the limits of the setup. We all tend to push the limits sometimes and worse if a naive operator jumps onboard. My brother called it monkey proofing, so even the most inexperienced operator could not destroy the equipment and hopefully also not get hurt.
Some fel setups have a range of positions for the pivot points. They can be changed for height or for strength. The manual for the machine will point those out to you.
Another option for 'monkey proofing' the fel is to put ram stops on the hydraulics (they stop the back tilt before it gets dangerous)or to have a hydraulic arm on the forks' backstop to pinch logs.
As they say in the chainsaw threads: "know your risks, then manage those risks."
Quote from: Rhodemont on July 21, 2023, 08:09:53 AMIf a log gets over the backstop I did something really dumb.
That is not good enough. It needs to be
impossible for a log to roll over the backstop.
What MM is stating is spot on. There should be no "IF, then Maybe" involved. There are lots of reasons for lifting high, even without tall stacks. I do it all the time to navigate the ends of a log over tall stuff like between other log piles, or the skidder tires that stick out in the way as I pass. It needs to be impossible for it to roll back. These things happen really fast, generate an incredible amount of force, and are deadly in an instant. Many of us have seen good operators have the worst day of their lives in just a few seconds. Some things you just don't mess around with and this point is one of them.
Please, think it through.
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Warning label on my Kubota tractor on the loader frame. When I bought my tractor new, the salesman said a guy 2 weeks previous had a log roll back down the loader arms while lifting. Luckily he didn't get hurt, but it did major damage to the tractor when it hit the hood and dash.
I agree with the safety issues all have pointed out. Actually I do not plan to lift logs with the forks. I like the log tongs hanging by chain from the bucket which I find very versatile in maneuvering logs. Sometimes I can even lower the tongs right on to the log and not even get off the tractor. I ordered the forks for handling beams and sliding slabs onto off the mill making it easier to cut to firewood. And also for moving pallets of firewood to the outdoor boiler.
Now as I am thinking this over I am going to order the jig with chain that can be mounted in the backstop receiver. That will, when I do not follow my plan above, allow me to chain the log against the backstop.
I was trying to help a friend with this same problem on his Kubota tractor. In this first picture you can see where I have added 6 inches of cylinder stops and it still went further than I was comfortable with.
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In this next picture you can see where I lowered the lift cylinders to the bottom pin hole and this helped a lot. I was even able to remove some of the cylinder stops. The other plus to lowering the cylinder to the bottom hole is that your tractor will have stronger lift capacity.
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Rhodemont, I have the same forks. I'm sorry you got stuck in them, but glad you didn't get hurt. I put grease on the top bar when I first got them. I thought there was somewhere that said to do that. I didnt think of it on my own. I like the forks. They are very versatile. I ordered mine from Amazon.
Rhodemont, it sounds like a plan. Thanks for letting us review the potential dangers of having a 1-ton log high in the air on forks. It is a good reminder for all of us.
I simply don't lift logs much above hood height on my tractor mounted forks. It can be a pain but I work around it for the very reasons already stated plus my tractor is light for lifting much above 2,000 pounds.
I once dumped a partial load of manure off the back of a skid steer bucket with an open station skid steer. It only takes once.
I can guess what you yelled when you saw it spilling at you... :o :D
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It's not a grapple, but it certainly secures the load on the forks.
Thanks for the notes guys. I'm with Ted in that I don't raise anything nearly that high. My forks are mostly used for pallets or maybe a single log getting dumped on a fire or a short pile. I usually do my arranging on said piles with the backhoe side.
It's not what one intends to do that injures and kills. It's the unintended when "stuff" happens.
Remember too that there are as many guest that reads here as members.
Hydraulic levers get stuck in the "up" position due to the operator getting jossled in the seat, something wedges it, distraction, etc and it only takes seconds for a tragedy to happen. If the machine has the ability to dump the log over the backstop then the risk is very real and may just be a question of when and not if.
Sometimes you have to use what you've got and be careful. We are presented with various risks doing the things we do. Minimizing them is always best.
Remember when you check the tilt angles on level ground and set up the machine. Just outside is a 40% slope. Very often you are not ideal, it can still bite you.
I've seen some tractors with the ROPS ahead of the dash (rare) and others with metal frame running from top of cab or canopy to the front of the hood both would reduce the risk of getting a log on the lap the frame from the top to the hood would also save your hood and deflect branches away from you.
Well, changing the subject, I have a new submission. I was going to get a bunch of work done today with the Toolcat here in my yard. I got started really well and was taking a full bucket of splitter junk out to the swamp for fill, but I went in a tad too far and sunk it right over the front axles. When I teried to back out..... yup, the rears dug in also.
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I hooked up the Mule and winch behind it and waited until Bill could stop in. I thought it would only take a littel help, but no soap. We finally chained the mule to a tree at and odd angle, then used to winch. The Toolcat pulled the Mule around and the Mule pulled the tool cat sideways. At one point I had all 4 Mule tires off the ground as the chain went tight (high lift point) and lifted the Mule as we pulled back the machine. It took a lot of wangling and holy cow what a huge pigg wallow we left. I don't even want to look at it right now, let alone take pictures.
After Bill stopped laughing at me and left, I got the stuff dumped in another location, spread some gravel and loaded dirt in the mule to fill holes in the back yard from the tree job. The it started raining. So I came in, had lunch, took a shower to get the mud off me, then went food shopping while we got another 1/2" of water. >:(
I did a bit more when the rain stopped and then hosed off the bigger clumps of mud off the toolcat. Man those axles were packed full. The rest of the machine looked like it was down range at a cow flop throwing contest. I should have known better, that machine is just too heavy for that ground.
I'm confessing to almost the same this weekend. I was bush hogging my trails and I have one section that is similar to a rail bed across a low spot. 5' wide of raised gravel bed 3' above bottomless muck. Rather than running straight down the center, I ran out to the one side and back on the other. Of course I dropped a wheel off the edge and down I went. Ugh. This was not my first rodeo and I had chains on board. I hooked up to the usual tree, and then pulled myself out about 2' at a time using the bucket curl. You would think I would have learned last time - or the time before that. But no.
On the way out, an errant branch grabbed my brush axe and tossed it on the ground . If I hadn't been watching the front edge of the bush hog at the time , I would not have stopped in time. Either that or I would have just carried on my merry way until I noticed it was gone. Ever tried to find a dropped brush axe along 3km of freshly hogged trail? That orange handle seems to be the perfect camouflage colour for old leaves. Been there, made that mistake before too.
Bottomless muck, yeah, that's what I got. And yeah, I should have learned the first time too, I hope I learned this time. I tried the curl trick first, but this machine doesn't have much in the curl department. I thought if I could lift the front end, the back tire might get better grab, but no, they just dug deeper.
Ah well, anything for a laugh.
Oh and painting those tools, I use the ugliest odd paint colors I find on the shelf, to get rid of them, or buy that cheap day-glo stuff stores are always trying to get rid of. So far that day-glo bright green seems to work best, but I'm out of it. I spray my pulling chains once a year or so, it wears off.
It's been a little while for me but getting stuck like that (and knowing better) are hard lessons to learn. Always an adventure!
Old Greenhorn
Anybody who has done any amount of real off-road driving with equipment has done similar things at least one. If not they are lying or the luckiest guy out there. So, been there , done that, got the scars to prove it. ;D
My brother and I got stuck with a fergie 150. You had to step down to get on the running boards.
Does that count?
GAB
Back when I was in grade school many, many, years ago, the school janitor bought a brand new 4wd pickup and parked it out front of the school. Us boys all gathered around it, in awe dreaming of all the off road adventures it could go on. The janitor looked over and said: "Four wheel drive just means when you get stuck, you're REALLY stuck!" ...words of wisdom still true today. :D
The rule I use is "If you get stuck in 2wd, 4wd might get you out. If you get stuck in 4wd, you are usually stuck. "
Back in the early 80s I worked at a gas station. One day 4 of my buddies pull in. Each had lifted up trucks with 36" tires. They had an ample supply of beer and needed gas. They were going out to a swamp about a mile from town to go " muddn".
Well, about an hour later I see the tow truck from the Sinclair station next to me head in the direction of the swamp. Another buddy worked there and he was driving. Then about an hour after that I see a big IH 4 wd articulated tractor head in the same direction.
Finally just before dark, I see a big tow truck, one that's used for semis, go by.
Turns out that all 4 trucks were stuck, the small tow truck had managed to get stuck as well as the tractor.
That was one expensive afternoon mudding. Since the last, big tow truck had to actually be hired, it cost big bucks. It came from 15 miles away and I was told they paid $100 just to get them to start it and leave the lot.
We still laugh about it when I see those guys.
That's why we always called the 4 WD lever the "stuck stick", because using it got you stuck.
Also that teenage boys with big 4wd trucks and beer is sure trouble. My friend who drove the Sinclair tow truck almost got fired and the boy driving the tractor had some splanin to do to his dad.
I remember going wheeling years ago, we came to a swampy area and there was a old square body Chevy with stock pizza cutter tires buried to the rocker panels. They must have walked out - no one there. ::)
Oh and the FUN begins the next day, when you have to power wash the truck at least 3 times. Mud gets plastered into every nook and cranny, especially underneath. Worse yet watching videos of guys crossing streams with water up to the hood (not realizing all the diff's probably now have water in them). :o
I'm still waiting for Jeff to get his backhoe stuck. He's gone longer than I ever did, and mine were 4wd.
Course I have no intention of starting an " I've been more stuck than you have" discussion, 'cause while I've been good and stuck, I've always managed to extract myself without outside help and I know others have me outclassed by far.
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Course I have no intention of starting an " I've been more stuck than you have" discussion,......
Yeah, we'd have to start a new thread for that subject. :D
But since you mentioned it, It did remind of a story long forgotten until now.
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Back in the late 70's I had a Dodge Ramcharger 4x4 with a 360 and a special order transmission and 3:55 gears in the axles. Anyway, we were camping in February in the Catskills at a camp that had a 3/4 mile driveway from the main gate to the parking lot, all winding downhill. It was hard packed snow and plowed as best as the ranger could do to keep up with the snow rate. It was a council wide event with an urban council. Meaning that family cars and at best, station wagons filled the parking lot. 4X4's you could count on about 3 fingers, let alone trucks. I was an oddball (why do you need all that truck, they would ask? ;D).
Anyway, Sunday comes and they have put in a radio system at the top and bottom of the hill to make sure everyone gets out, one car at a time. If they got stuck, we could send help without a traffic jam. It worked well and when you were all loaded you just got in line and waited a few minutes for your turn. Seemed like everyone was getting out fine. Well I am still tying sleds on the roof and final packing and a guy comes over. He says, "Hey, you have the only truck in the lot and there is a guy stuck up near the top, could you give him a pull?" Well I told him I'd try. So I get up there and the guy has a 3/4 ton 2WD pickup with a utility body and he is a plumber. His cabinets are full of pipe fittings, tools, pipe threaders and dies, he has a load of 1-1/2 pipe on the rack, plus a full load of all his troops camping gear. Not a big concern, but what is a concern for me is that both rear tires have cut nice clean halfmoons in the ice that is a road bed. His truck is literally teetering on the rear differential. Oh, and they are highway/street tires.;D Given his weight and how deep he is stuck in those halfmoons right good, I don't have a 'warm fuzzy' about this at all. He says "whaddya think, can ya gave me a yank?" I shook my head and said "Brother, I wouldn't bet a plug nickel I can get you out, but I will give it my best shot." I also explained this could get ugly and might cause some damage, he was OK with that. So I hooked up a tow strap and put up his hood for protection against the gunshot explosion I expected. I put the tranny in 4 wheel Low Lock and told him to just apply a little gas, but hardly any until/if he started moving. IF we got it moving I would keep pulling until we hit the flat at the top. Well I started to apply load and added fuel steady until I heard (and felt) WHAM! as my truck shot forward 2 feet and I looked in the sideview to see if it were my bumper that tore off or his, I was sure it was one or the other. Instead I see his left arm out his window waving me madly on. Somebody ran over and slammed his hood down so he could see and I was only moving at a steady 2 MPH (I dared not shift), and I pulled him all the way up the hill and out of the gate.
As I unhooked and he was excitedly thanking me I reminded him I didn't think there was a snowball's chance in heck I could have pulled him out and I truly expected some ugly damage on either vehicle in any event, but sometimes you get lucky. That is he toughest pull I had ever done, before or since. That was some truck and the only one I ever gave a name to. I called it my "Little Stump Whumper" because I pulled probably over 100 stumps with it and never got it stuck. I hated to scrap it, but I did run it into the ground and could not get/afford parts. If I had lived up north back then it would still be a doodle bug around here somewhere.
I hadn't thought of that event in a very long time, thanks.
Not me but this does belong in this thread. In the 1980's my brother was a tow truck driver with a 3 or 5 ton International rig. He got a call on Sunday to go out of Calgary to a spot where guys were trying to cross a river for a truck stuck in it. When he got there one regular tow truck had tried and failed, and another was going to try, he told him to get out of the way as he had to leave the drag races to do this call and wanted to get back. He positioned the truck and called the driver over, handed him the tow hook and told where to hook up on the truck. The driver asked "Aren't you going hook it up?" he replied "I didn't get it stuck." so wades out in the river and hooks up. Once he was clear my brother pulled him out, the ask for $300 for his tow plus told him to pay the other drivers for a callout. The guy didn't like it but paid. Then after my brother unhooked him he says" why don't you stick round, once it dries out I want to try it again." my brother replied "Okay but next time it will cost you $600.". The guy asked "Why so much?" and my brothers reply was priceless "If you're dumb enough to try it again, you're dumb enough to give me $600."
He decided to try some other time.
My brother could tell when he pulled up there was no chance to make it across.
Apparently the dumb thing I did this week was take my camper on a trip. We havent used it since last august. Got hooked up to it and pulled it forward to check the tire pressure. Had to put a few pounds in but no much. Right before we would have left i decided to check turn signals. Nothing. No tail lights. Went thru all the troubleshooting and nothing. I'm sure that squirrels or other rodents have chewed thru the wire harness going to the rear. The only option I had was to go buy a 100' roll of trailer wire and run temporary wire to get me blinkers and brake lights. I can't drive after dark because I didnt wire for that.
Had to ziptie the wire to the underside of the camper and wire into the trailer harness at the front. Made it to Branson and got hooked up to power. Hooked up water and turned it on. My son said theres water leaking underneat. Looked behind the cabinet where the water hooks up and found that the rodents had chewed thru 3 water supply hoses. Luckily I was able to run to home depot and get washer supply hoses and fixed it. Of course I have a bad back and shouldnt be doing any of this. Last night called for a few beers.
Campers and boats break sitting still!
Last year I had a flat tire on our camper while in a campsite. Called roadside assistance. The guy came, installed the spare and reinflated the original tire. I didn't have a jack, tire tool etc at the camper.
The tire held air for a a couple of months. So I switched it back because the wheels match.
Same campsite one year later and the same tire went flat! Should have just gotten it fixed.
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Your son looks very capable of following your directions, so he uses his back.. ;) ;) and save yours.
Hope all is better now, and you are limping back home soon for a make-over.
My 16 year old was helping me and he told me that he would do all the laying under the camper because of my back. He was a big help. He was under there doing it and I wanted to get going so I got under there too to make it go quicker.
Several years ago I was sitting on a chair outside the camper and just happened to notice that one of the tires had turned into a perfect donut. Had to take the tire off and take it to walmart to get a tire put on it.
Something I learned years ago from a heavy duty mechanic, wire trailers with bx cable because it's armoured. Then rodents can't get at it and trigs and other road debris as well
Dang it, I had to many things going on in my head (more than 1) and tried to drive off with my front jack down 😤 not only did it shear off the 4 - 3/8" carriage bolts, but the corner of the jack mounting bracket cut a hole in my hydraulic box 😤😤 sometimes I really make me mad.
Dang it. I hate when that happens. It was last year at this time that I pulled the camper out of the carport because I wanted better access to check the air in the tires. Of course I hadn't unplugged the power cord yet. Broke the plug on the camper and the plug on the shed where the camper plugs in.
I did that with a water wagon a few years ago. Left the hose hooked to the 300 gallon tub and drove off. Never knew a 50' garden hose can become a 200' sling shot. It made a unique noise when she let go.
A fellow I met at the coast 15 or 20 years ago pulled his boat trailer 100 miles with the tongue jack down. It was ground off so bad the wheel was completely gone.
I think if they put an 8th pin in it and some bigger screws on the plug it'll tow.
My dumb move of the week was getting my primary saw pinched in about a 16-18 inch poplar, could not wedge it free then cut the tree from the back with a small back up saw and instead of loosening the head I was going to pull it out of the way when the tree let go. Guess who was not quick enough to get his 6 month old saw out of the way? All I had to do was loosened 2 nuts. I bet that would have been cheaper than replacing the cracked plastic case and the handle and such.
I must be off of my game, this is the third time I've tried to drive away with the jack down this year. The first time I made it to the pavement when I saw my customer doing an interesting dance in an effort to get my attention 🙈
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Apparently the dumb thing I did this week was take my camper on a trip. We havent used it since last august. Got hooked up to it and pulled it forward to check the tire pressure. Had to put a few pounds in but no much. Right before we would have left i decided to check turn signals. Nothing. No tail lights. Went thru all the troubleshooting and nothing. I'm sure that squirrels or other rodents have chewed thru the wire harness going to the rear. The only option I had was to go buy a 100' roll of trailer wire and run temporary wire to get me blinkers and brake lights. I can't drive after dark because I didnt wire for that.
Had to ziptie the wire to the underside of the camper and wire into the trailer harness at the front. Made it to Branson and got hooked up to power. Hooked up water and turned it on. My son said theres water leaking underneat. Looked behind the cabinet where the water hooks up and found that the rodents had chewed thru 3 water supply hoses. Luckily I was able to run to home depot and get washer supply hoses and fixed it. Of course I have a bad back and shouldnt be doing any of this. Last night called for a few beers.
A guy I know was at a recent volunteer work day where he showed a few of us the Magnetic LED Wireless Towing Light Kit he recently acquired from a discount chain tool seller. Pretty slick, the transmitter just plugs into a standard harness on the vehicle and the lights respond to all the standard commands within 100 ft. They have a magnet base and the only mod he uses is to zip-tie each in place for added security. I have not picked up a set myself, but with 10 trailers of all sizes I can see the day is coming where I have a set.
We all get distracted which points out the value of always making a final "walk around" before pulling out.
Hitch, safety chains, & lights. Outriggers. Rear saw head safety chain. Canthooks and other tools.
During the past 20 years, I have failed on all of the above especially if the customer is trying to help. Occasionally I have to tell the customer/tailgunners; "When I load it I know where it is. If you load it, I'll have to look for it."
I'm with mm on this one. Almost every client offers to help load up at the end of the day. My standard response is, thank you very much but if I don't do it , in order, I will forget something.
I do a final walk around before leaving AND then I stop in a few hundred yards down the road and do a second walk around.
My Momma always said to me " if the good Lord hadn't thought to attach your head to your shoulders, you would forget that too"
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I only trust three people to load or prepare the mill for travel, my wife, my son and myself. I check behind the first two...well I check behind all three. :D
Yeah, I've had a different year with less mobile jobs, more custom milling at home and more excavation work, so I think I've fallen out of good habits. I'm going to have to be sure to get back to them.
@'*&$#,;(&$*!
My son is cutting trees for a driveway to his build site. Today I was helping.
Long story short, the power company didn't charge us for reconnecting the overhead electric service to my son's current home.
One of the trees didn't fall as the other 20 did, despite the rope and chain line being pulled by the tractor.
Oh boy!
we learn more from our mistakes than our successes. we just have to survive to reap the benefits.
Good experience comes from getting through past failures. smiley_thumbsup
Ted,
Been there - done that. The neighbors also are not pleased when you knock out power for several miles along the line. ::) Glad you got off with no charges from the power company.
my yard had been marked many times, and I was just digging to put in another sprinkler line and head. snagged a gas line on a Sunday. that means double time and a half. I could hear it and my track loader idle started to go up. move it back. folded the end of the line in half and clamped it with a hose clamp plier. the gas guys were mad, but when the marker people came and saw it, they said, that is over here on the map. I got out of the charges. It was a gas line to the neighbor's shop added years after their house, and they came onto my yard about 20 feet, so they did not have to disrupt their driveway. before we owned the house here. it was supposed to be 24 inches deep, and it was only about 9. In the end we were all ok, and they said, well "we are making good money since it is Sunday". :)
Our good fortune landed on the shoulders of the lineman who came to do the repair.
He came without chainsaw or pole saw so my son and I removed the tree per his instructions. That way we didn't do additional damage.
My son asked if they charged for the call. The lineman said he would put it down as "weather related " and there would be no charge. He also said, " I've done the same thing myself."
I just got home and saw a raft of alerts on my screen from this thread (and others) and thought "OK, somebody is fessing up, this could be good. ;D" It was, and let he say that he who is is without should sin cast the first stone. :D (and that's NOT me) You've joined the blue flash club, it happens, and sucks for a moment or two every time, but nobody got hurt and your adrenaline got a little test shot. :)
Not so bad and you got a 'buy' from the lineman, so all good. We know you are just distracted by the big event happening mid-week and can't focus, I couldn't either.
Had a tree vs. powerline problem few years ago that was not my fault, but it was on my property...
We had an overnight snowstorm (4" or 5"), so I went out early the next morning did my snow plowing and came back home. The sky cleared up, the wind got gusty, and one of the evergreens along my driveway (heavy laden with snow), snapped off and hit the power line. The tree top leaned right against the top of the pole. It proceeded to smoke, and if it weren't for the snow, would have become a full blown fire. :o
I went out to see what was going on, and within minutes the powerline got hot enough to snap and fall. Not only cutting off my power, but also dropping the live wire end onto the highway. :o
A county plow truck was out plowing the highway, and by some miracle I got him to stop. I told him the situation, and he put on his strobes and blocked traffic. I parked my pickup and blocked traffic from the other direction, and told people to detour rather than risk it. The power company was out pretty quick, got the highway open, and within an hour or so they had my power back on.
I had a truck full of limbs and such snag a phone drop line to my place. When I called to report it the girl asked how it happened, my response was "I was always told if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", she laughed and said not to worry about it.
A friend's tree service bucket truck snagged a communication cable over in Surry County. It was one of the large cables and it snatched 5 power poles over before he got stopped.
A Highway Patrolman and the local fire chief had reported the low hanging cable.
The power company filed a law suit against the tree service. Once the patrolman and fire chief told they had reported it, the lawsuit was withdrawn.
Several years ago I was clearing some ground to expand my garden.Had quite a few trees to cut and used a cable and snatch blocks to fell them in the right direction.Got to the last one and decided I didn't need to hook a cable to it.Moments later the power pole in my front yard was snapped about half way up and the transformer was laying in the yard.Power man came up and looked the situation over and said (I'm going to have to take your chainsaw) and laughed.But then said (I hope you have good insurance)It was on a Saturday and I think the claim was around five thousand dollars.Transformer landed right side up and didn't bust open.They said if fluid would have leaked out of transformer hazmat would have been called in.Live and learn I guess :laugh:
New transformers have mineral oil in them. Of course back in the day there was PCB in them.
The company you all remember was right around the corner from work, that guy was spraying it down every country road.
We were building for one of the safety guys for BFI. He came by the job kind of haggard and worn one day. He said the phone rang at dark thirty. One of their trucks had left the industrial park with his dumpster forks up and took out the phone cable to the park.
He dressed and headed out. As he pulled up, no cones or triangles, cable in the road, morning traffic just starting. He steps out of his car and watches a pickup not seeing it drive over the cable, pick it up, wind it around the rears and begin taking up slack as it is driving down the road. It got to the end of the slack, snatches the trucks rear and breaks the cable again. This time it arcs up over the 3 phase line into the industrial park. Shorts across the phases, and everything in sight goes dark :D. A few bucks of phones to knocking out a major hub in the blink of an eye, oops.
One of my buddies lived on the street that led up to the local coal fired power plant. He was going to put a fence up, so he did the required call in and got the locates done before he started. With all of the utities marked, he started boring his fence holes with a skid steer auger. First hole, as he is augering down some BIG wires came up. He thought, "that's weird must be abandoned line", as he was no where near any if the marked utilities. Well it didn't take long and a pickup pulled into his yard, with a wild eyed guy screaming, "DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE?!" at him.
After a lot of hand wringing, it was determined that the utility did not mark the lines properly, so my friend was not at fault. Knocked out all the communications to the power plant😬🤦
Ended up being a really nice fence, though😁
Back in July of 2017, a new bridge was being built over Oregon Inlet on the Outer Banks of NC. A steel casing was being driven on the south side of the construction site when it hit 3 underground conductors that transmitted power to Hatteras Island and Ocracoke Island.
Power was out several days, generators were brought in and an alternative connection was built. It was the height of the tourist season and non-residents were evacuated. So several thousands of people were impacted. Businesses and residents lost refrigeration and the foods inside and lost a large percentage of annual income.
In the end the settlement was for a bit more than $10 million.
We only cut power to one house! candle_smiley Shew buddy!
When I was in my late teens my brother and I were digging fence post holes for a chain link fence. It was fresh turned dirt with no grass with no indication of water lines or such. The last post hole in the back yard my brother hit the water line. The lady went in to call her husband and found I had cut the phone line in the front yard. It was late Saturday afternoon and the hardware stores were fixing to close. She ran up and bought a 20' joint of PVC pipe, fitting and glue and we patched it enough to get them through the weekend. She was not a happy camper when my brother kept reminding her the "Underground obstructions" were the responsibility of the customer.
I was subsoiling a field one time and at some point looked back to see quite the tail of small ish, all beat up, wire of some kind dragging behind me. No idea how long it had been dragging through the soil and other than it being wire there was no way to really tell what it was. I figured it was just some trash that had ended up in the field and had hooked a shank, whatever. I was only down maybe a foot with the cutters. Day or so later I saw a phone company repair man and his truck parked by one of their small pop up towers that's hidden in the trees wandering around like he was searching for his lost puppy. Ahh... ooops.
To the best of my recollections I have never dug up nothin' that weren't supposed to be dug up at some point. ;D
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However, yesterday I did pull off a first (for me). Saturday Bill and I were banging around his property doing chores and visiting neighbors, etc. On the way back, we passed a Hickory trunk that I had dropped and taken mushroom logs from last winter. I left the trunk for firewood as is our 'deal'. His restaurant customer was getting low on smoker wood and I reminded him about that, so on the way back we bucked it up and in the process, I rocked my chain (twice) pretty well on hidden rocks.
So yesterday afternoon, knowing it was going to take a while, I set the saw up in the vise and started working on it. I knew it would take a lot of filing, but it seemed to be taking a lot more than it should and I had to go back and hit quite a few teeth that just weren't shaping up as they should. There is a limit as to how far I will go on these chains, preferring to get them 'mostly' good, then use them and get them better on the next sharpening. Still, it just didn't 'feel' right, but I let it go because I had sweated enough and my hands were now sore, and as I put the file back up on the tool rack it dawned on me that I grabbed the wrong file. I used the 3/16 (which is for my .325 chain) instead of the 7/32" for my .375 chain. ARRRGGGHHH!
So I grabbed the correct file and went around it AGAIN. This time most teeth came up fairly quick, but some are getting pretty short and are nearing the end of life. Time for a new chain anyway I guess. I have a spare in my bag, but want to get a couple more go's out of this one first. It 'sorta' cuts ok. ;D
I have a few older chains reserved for the dirty jobs!
Yeah, this chain is probably ready for that status too. I will see how it does on the next job, then likely change it out. Sometimes I am too frugal for my own good, especially with 2 brand new X-Cuts sitting in my bag waiting for the nod. ;D
And just like that...... it's toasted again. :D :D Glad I left in on for one more run though.
I had that last big leader laying in the yard, 20"+ diam up to over 24 in some spots and 12' long. It land HARD and flat from up at about 30' and pounded itself into the ground about 4-5" deep. Been sitting there for a month now and the mud washed off the top half, but not the bottom where the mud is just beat into it. I cut 75% through from the topside on all cuts, but could not flip it with just the 4' cant hook I have here. Magic Hook to the rescue! Easy peasey pulling it over with the Mule, but all that mud took a toll on the chain and it is toast. It cut pretty good for most of it, but parting the rounds off on the muddy side just finished it. Soaked through my 3rd hat and gave up wearing a shirt today, man it's humid. ;D Beer-thirty got here early today. :D
I'll sharpen it again and take it off to save for junk work, then put on a new one. I'm due. ;D
FYI take the time to put you readers on when you check the oil fill level on your mill motor.....saves some time later.... ::)
Some how I ended up with too much...
Well I found out a few minutes ago that you can't drive a truck with a toolbox on top of the ladder rack and standing at 9' clearance into an airport parking garage with 8'6" clearance.
Pictures or it didn't happen... :snowball: ::) :D ;D
I hammered the brakes the second that sign registered in my road weary brain, but not quite quickly enough. That swing bar they hung made a heck of a WHAM! No real damage and no photos but it doesn't try hard to rip the bolts out holding the box on. Hopefully it will hold up ok for the hour drive back down the Thruway when this damages delayed flight gets here. Its way past my bedtime.
You're tired, remember Thruway, NOT Parkway or you will have more to post here.
Yeah, I was tired and quite aware of the clearance on my truck but that sign came up really quick and they keep changing the roads around at that airport and it messed me up. I gotta lower that box anyway, but I have to mill up a mount board for it first then do all the cutting and fitting.
Flight landed 40 minutes late, just a lot of driving late at night. Yeah, I was tired and it was dumb. Just glad I didn't have to pull out tools to clean it up and get it off.
Edit to add: OH, and Parkways are one of the reasons I moved to where we live now. Closest parkway is 50 miles away and I almost never get on it. Yeah, I saw LOTS of parkway vs. large truck accidents in the first 35 years of my life. Every one was fascinating... to drive past. :D :D ;D
Glad to hear the swinging height bar stopped you rather than the very not swinging concrete ceiling!
I was just in a garage that seemed too short for nay truck, much less one with some additional height.
If it was a 3" tube like many places use, it would have been fine. But they made theirs out of 3 pieces of 1-1/2 x 3" rectangular tubing welded in the form of an I-beam, so it had quite a bit of weight hanging in 6" of chain. I stopped just as the whack came, and I looked up and out the window and saw the 'beam' sitting right in the middle of the top of the tool box. It was about 10:30 at night so not hardly any traffic and I was able to back out of it (quick before anyone saw) and get off into the proper lane for the 9'6" clearance parking. Those bolts holes are mushroomed out, but the plan has been to move that box down to the side for weeks now so I can use the full length of the rack and get back the fuel mileage I am losing on the highway.
My dumb move of the day was to park my new ATV down hill from where I was felling a tall poplar tree. I did not move it nearly far enough and the tree fell way out of line from where I had meant to drop it. The top of the tree landed about 20' to the right of my ATV. If it had hit it would have totaled my ATV. I dodged the bullet this time but will be way more careful next time. (I did still have to fix my fence but that was a quick and easy task.)
Sometimes Murphy has a bad day! Glad your ATV is ok.
Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?
I won't drive my truck anywhere near a parking garage. Even if I can get under the gate, I don't trust that there won't be somewhere lower in there. Pipes, signs, etc.
ffots,
Along those same lines why is a blackberry green when it is red?
Why do the instructions on mildew remover say, "Use in a well ventilated area?"
Along the lines of breaking power lines with trees, I just hired a tree service to take down about 8 trees within striking distance of the pool.
Can you say gun shy?
I've spent a lot of time on a golf cart. Me and my buddy have made it a ritual that if you are on the cart you hang on.
I've tossed people out and been tossed myself during full speed turns and slamming on the breaks, done 180s or 360s everywhere I can, attempted ramping over a pile of sand (got stuck, it didn't ramp over at all), and all kinds of juvenile junk in between. It's dumb fun
Welp, this past Thursday was the final night of my golf league. My parter didn't show so I had my own cart for a scramble. On the 8th to 9th hole there is a teardrop shaped turn around, that I've hit at full speed several times. This time was different. Tires were sticky or maybe the suspension was worse on the driver's side, I don't know, but I rolled the cart. It happened before I even realized (I have been on 2 or 3 wheels in a cart) and I'm on my side. My ankles don't seem broken but maybe they should be, they are both quite swollen, one has a couple inches of skin sliced off, and my back got all cracky (but nothing unusual, my back sucks). I'm sore now but I got lucky, it could have been real bad.
Did something dumb, indeed.
Juvenile is a good way to describe your activities!!! :D :D
Or less. Steve
Yeah, some things are fun right up to the point that they aren't.
Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye......
I was always told "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes". I've got lots of trophies. Most folks call them scars.
OK,OK... no pic. it did not happen right. well, I was making a charcuterie board for a doc, who is going on a fishing trip. had to trim it down to engraver size 18 x 24. using my batt operated "skill" saw using the table saw for a work surface. I let the edge hang over the side and threw some weight on the board and one edge was against the fence. it was an inch thick cottonwood slab. struck a line with pencil and started sawing. I was using my left hand as a guide on the base to stay on that line. halfway though it spun and almost fell, so I grabbed it... In the spot where the blade was still spinning as I was trying to hurry, so I had not let off the trigger switch thinking I could stabilize it and keep on sawing. felt a burning sensation. :o :o :o
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with handheld tools we usually damage our non-dominant hand, table saws and stationary tools get the dominate one. It still turned out great so I thought, it must not have been that stupid... The pic is about 5 days out. It was not full thickness. He is going to the North Platte River in Wyoming. I printed a topographical map of the several states that is covers.
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He was in the Airforce and taught wilderness survival.
he and a dozen of his buddy's camp and fish there every year. If anything happens, my DNA is on that board. I decided I do like cottonwood for engraving.
Doc, that's a neat engraving.
Boy, that finger could have been much worse. Working with small pieces especially if in a rush or tired can be most dangerous.
I should have let go of the trigger but did not want a notch there so kept the saw going. it was a bigger piece but was so smooth it spun on the table saw top as the forces changed halfway through the cut. Had I not been guiding the saw with my left hand on the base, I would have grabbed somewhere else. happened in less than a second. I got a few steri-strips at work and the doc will never know what happened unless he reads it here. :snowball: :)
Yowza! That was a scary one. Glad you're not a surgeon or a hand model.
I thought about a stitch or two but was not sure how I would tie the knot. I pulled it together with tincture of benzoin (skin prep uber sticky) and steri-strips and brought it together. some was only partial thickness, so that is what you see.
Ouch doc! Lucky it didn't get cut any worse.
good thing I play Dobro with a slide steel in the left hand! :) And my wife says I am already married so I cannot tie any more knots! :) cept at work and boy scout campouts! 8)
But will you be able to play the piano? ??? ;D
Man, doc, did you have the blade just barely lower than the thickness of the piece? Great lesson for us all. I try to keep blade height just, just above the wood on the table saw but the circular saw is sloppy enough that it's usually deep enough to chop a finger off...
The owner of the next camp down river from me is a retired Dr., he says that you can get good deals in the emergency department then tells me about the guy that took the end of 4 fingers off his left hand on a table saw and said "hey doc do you play guitar? I can give you a really good deal on a nice acoustic guitar!"
Here I thought he was going to offer him a deal on a table saw.
Ouch, Doc H! Glad that wasn't worse and sure hope you heal quickly!
the band aids made it hard to type on a keyboard, so glad I am past that stage. I was a really nice fine carbide blade. I was more worried about not messing up the edge. did you see how nice it was. worth it. :o :o :o :snowball: :) well maybe not.
Ouch Doc! I never wore my wedding ring while working on aircraft as I really, really liked it the way it is and heard too many ring finger missing stories over the years.
hugs, Brandi
Doc
I hope you went to the ER, we don't want an infection!!!! smiley_jester :D
It was a clean blade Stan, and sterile wood. :) it blead pretty good, so prob. some of my DNA on the project.
My dad was a truck driver Brandy, and did not wear his working. guys jump off a trailer holding something, and the ring catches on something... called a degloving injury. some are getting tattoos or rubber rings instead. Hello to your family. 8)
In the ED, most of the older guys just want it fixed so they can get home and finish their project.
Doc, we could of used used you at the end of July, my wife tripped going into a restaurant, almost broke her nose but did push ball on the humerus into the socket good enough to break it into several pieces. She s now pretty much stuck doing nothing as she can't use her right arm and has to be care to not move or jar it.
hope she is healing up OK
They are watching it. It's going to take some time though as you know.
Take care of her Stan. Wishing her a speedy recovery.
Stan, here's hoping she recovers quickly and completely. Praying for you both!
Oh no. Wives with broken wings deserve and require special attention and care. You will learn some of these special duties that us men never even think about. I have learned to wash clothes, change the bed, fold fitted sheets, do some cooking and wash the dishes, vacuum and mop the floors. Etc, etc, etc.
It has been a year now since PatD fell and broke her arm so my prayer is for healing grace for your wife and patience for you.
MM
I was taught those long before I met her some in the Military and some as a bachelor. ;D
She has MS that causes her to have limited mobility, this just compounds it. So I help with all of that already.
One of our Subarus has had a rattle for the last 6 months. I replaced sway bar links a couple months ago as that was supposed to be a possible cause. That didnt fix it. Yesterday I was determined to fix it and ordered new struts. That was the next on the list of most likely causes for the rattle. I took the left front off while waiting for the parts to come in. The dumbest part was that I did this in the garage and my son was supposed to go cut grass for my parents. He of course couldn't do it because I had blocked the mower into the garage. I got the strut in and went for a ride. Still rattled. I happened to kick the tire and noticed the rattle. I suspected the brake capiper was rattling. If I kicked it with my hand on the caliper there was no rattle. Took the caliper off, brake pads off and then put all back together. Rattle is all gone. Well I wasted some money on parts, but at least the rattle is gone. It was really annoying. I took the other strut back to the store.
You probably should have put the other strut in too. When working on a vehicle, you should do the same work on both sides of the car to keep things in balance.
I thought about it, but decided it wasnt necessary since there was nothing wrong with the strut I took out.
So I have been trying to help my wife with some large decorative lighted letters for a wedding reception. It is our daughter's best friend from childhood getting married. Thankfully they are pretty much finished they are a large D&M (Dan and Megan). Well we went to town and went to Hobby Lobby. It's about as big as a fleet farm full of more artsy decorative stuff than I can imagine. Well we were looking for a decorative ribbon to spruce up the base of the letters. This is mostly a warning for all you guys that might itch your chin or rub your face while shopping with your wife in that store...
Many of the products contain glitter of many shades...
If your 3 day growth of beard itches a little and or you rub your chin to itch or just pondering what of the 300 rolls of stuff you've looked at will make these letters perfect. You will transfer glitter to your face and it sticks there. So there is a very good chance you will look like a preschool girl who just had a great time at arts and crafts....
Oh and this store is beside Harbor Freight, a Menard's and the Tractor supply store 2 of the three you are need in to stop at. Odds are Doc. one or more of your clients are going to be at one of those stores shopping, and mention your "nice glitter". Yes my wife had great fun with it.....
Just a warning if you might be forced to go into a Hobby Lobby..
just one more reason. I have veered off and needed to buy pails of oil and hydraulic fluid on speculation to avoid being sucked into the store next door :D.
Well Nebraska I have walked into a store with worse on my face, didn't realize it at the time, but as they say - it happens. :D
Yeah but the glitter's not really normal for me. Not saying the other is either but alas way more common...oh well...as you say "it happens"..
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After almost 6 years of use, the factory original Wood-Mizer wood anti-vibration block in my mill decided to self destruct the other day. I was cutting a 2" thick, wide red oak slab when it failed. Worst part it broke in two, and "derailed" the sawblade causing it to dive and come to a screeching halt, ruining the slab. ::)
(Though I was able to salvage some 1" boards from that piece). I guess the smart thing to do is replace the block before it fails next time.
I would use Black Locust.
I bought one from Woodmizer once. It's a little block of poplar.
I think they said it was Russian olive originally, (now it's more like olive salad). ;D
I just cut a piece of red oak as a temporary fix for now to get the mill back up running.
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the factory original Wood-Mizer wood anti-vibration block in my mill
What in the DanG sawdust are Y'all talking about?
hugs, Brandi
I think its that small block above the blade half way between the wheels. Keeps the blade from hitting the top of the frame work.
Inside my LT 28 it is a wood block held with 2 small screws, up inside the top of the blade enclosure, on the drive wheel side. The sawblade touches it lightly, and it keeps blade vibration down. Not sure if the bigger hydraulic mills are set up similar.
I believe the maintenance schedule is to conduct an electrical resistance and X ray of the block every 6 months to ensure it hasn't begun to degrade.
The block looks to be decayed. Would have failed the electrical resistance and X-ray tests. ;) ;)
Quote from: Resonator on August 27, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
Inside my LT 28 it is a wood block held with 2 small screws, up inside the top of the blade enclosure, on the drive wheel side. The sawblade touches it lightly, and it keeps blade vibration down. Not sure if the bigger hydraulic mills are set up similar.
I guess my Yanmar vibrates enough to keep blade vibration nulled, cause I ain't got one. Do yellow jacket nests count? ???
hugs, Brandi
Brandi, yours has an adjustable stud instead of a wood block. Your manual will give you the adjustment tolerance.
Went out in the rain just now. Well not rain, but heavy sprinkling. Yes, I do have a stud there. Guess it is good, as I never noticed it before Y'all said anything.
hugs, Brandi
I need to replace the wood block in my mill too. It fell out months ago and I didn't replace it.
So, its my turn again. I needed gas in all my gas cans and diesel in my diesel cans for the tractor. I needed diesel in my truck too, which is where the dump part comes in. I had a plan. I was going to put diesel in the truck and then pump into the diesel cans all in one receipt. Then I would run my credit card again to buy gas. Well, I arrived and started pumping fuel into the truck. After 10 gallons had gone in I had a terrible thought. As I was getting gas cans out of the back of the truck I thought, Oh my God, I think I'm putting gas into the truck. Ran around the side and sure enough. 10.2 gallons to be exact had already gone into the truck. DanG it!! Well, I said a few expletives and then went ahead and filled up my gas and diesel cans. Called the little repair shop that I go to. They had called me earlier in the day to tell me my other truck was ready for pick up. He called a tow truck for me and I rode in the tow truck to the garage. Since my flatbed was ready to be picked up, I just drove home in that. I wish I could blame it on pump handle colors, but it was just me being stupid. They are going to drain my tank of course and then I told them to change my fuel filters. I was due for that 500 miles ago. I will have to go over there with the 10 gallons of diesel I bought for the tractor and put it in the truck.
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Man, that sucks, BUT you caught it before you cranked it up, so good on you! That saved a bunch of damage, cost, and work. Take that part as a win at least.
Oh, I was very happy that I had realized what I had done. I went into the station and told the desk worker what I had done and that I was sorry, but I was going to be blocking that pump until the towtruck came. No way I was starting the truck.
It could be worse. A friend of mine worked for a company that did gas station construction and maintenance. He got an urgent call one weekend to have an underground storage tank pumped out immediately. Seems a tanker truck driver unfamiliar with the station, mixed up which color coded covers were to go with which fuel tank... :o
I've heard of someone transferring fuel into the fresh water tanks while out to sea ;) :D.
A large part of Florida has a mess right now because someone at the dock mixed gas and diesel, then delivered it to a whole lot of filling stations across the state. What is odd about that is at the dock and bulk tank levels of distribution the couplers are incompatable for the different fuels, so how did that happen?
Quote from: Southside on August 28, 2023, 11:36:35 PMWhat is odd about that is at the dock and bulk tank levels of distribution the couplers are incompatable for the different fuels, so how did that happen?
Never underestimate the power of an idiot!! smiley_jester
I did pretty much the same thing about 5 years ago, but after I topped off my main tank, I started filling my auxiliary tank. After a few minutes I happened to look down at the pump and noticed the price was different from what the sign said. The sad part is that I didn't even need fuel, I already had 60 gallons on board, which was more than enough to get home. So, I ruined 60 gallons of fuel and got to spend 2 more days in post falls idaho. This was when I was buying the property we now live on. I still have about 40 gallons of that "hot fuel" for starting fires
My Dad did that one time - diesel in gas tank though. He went in and told the station clerk. She gave him a number for a hazmat vacuum service that they had used previously.
They came and removed the fuel from his truck at the station. IIRC $125 after they gave him some credit for the fuel. He refilled with gas. The truck never had any problems related to that incident.
That would have been nice to have someone come to the station and take care of it there. I just came back from the shop where my truck is. I took them 10 gallons of diesel to put back in after they drain the tank and clean it out.
Dr. Slomka will tell you to buy Mercedes. His is diesel, and his wife's is gas. you can guess what happened when she took his on a trip. the car ran a few feet, and a sensor shut it down. to the Mercedes dealer to fix, and they do nothing cheap, and leave nothing to chance. It was in the thousands if that makes you feel better. I think they even pulled the tank and flushed it. a bit much maybe.
I've always wanted a diesel Subaru, but they never came to America. Maybe that's a good thing, because that would probably happen if we had one. I have no doubt that driving the truck with the gas in it would cause thousands of damage. He is going to drop my tank. He said that's easier than trying to siphon it. They do not have a drain at the bottom. That would be easier and I don't understand why they don't have a drain.
Imagine the number of DIY hazmat spills if tanks had a drain. The old mil-spec 6.2's would run on straight gas. Whole training troop had to do a bunch of extra PT after discovering that tid bit. Truth be told that old bus never ran better than it did on those three tanks.
There would also be tons of fuel theft happening if they had a drain, accidental deaths of DIYs or thieves, or pranks(which could turn deadly).
Back in the mid 1980's I drove a tank truck and delivered gasoline and diesel to gas station that the company owned.
All the fill pipes at the gas station had the same fitting on top. So you could use your elbow and hoses to hook up to deliver your product to a tank. All products are color coded for which tank is which.
Back then we had regular leaded gas, unleaded, and super unleaded. At one location the company owned a section filling station side by side. The second one sold diesel.
I had to park in a totally different area to hook up to the diesel tanks.
The way the elbows worked is that the vapor in the ground tank would come up the pipe on the outside of the center pipe, through a hose and back into the truck tank. This was supposed to cut down on air pollution by capturing the vapor and taking it back to the gas loading terminal.
One day, while delivering gas, I accidently delivered leaded gas to the super unleaded tank. I didn't realize my mistake until the vent hose filled up with gas and dripped a little out at the fitting. I had to wait until the sold enough to disconnect my hoses.
I told the boss, and we had to pump all the leaded gas super gas mix out of the super tank to the regular tank because if they tested the super tank and found leaded gas in there, it was a $10,000 fine. So, we had some really nice leaded gas for a while.
Jim Rogers
PS. when I worked there as a gas attendant, I guy came in once with a diesel car and had me put a few gallons of regular gas into his tank, it was wintertime. He said he did that so that the diesel wouldn't gel up on him.
I've heard of that with truckers in the old days, thinning the diesel in their saddle tanks with a few gallons of gasoline when it was below 0.
Another fuel story, years ago I worked driving semi hauling hot-mix asphalt from a portable plant doing highway work. The upper management wanted to be "green", and burn used waste oil in the burner that heated the drum that cooked the asphalt. They got a tanker load from an auto parts store that allowed anybody to dispose of their oil there. The asphalt plant had issues trying to get the fire hot enough, and that brought work to a halt. They found out they were trying to burn parts cleaner, tranny fluid, antifreeze, and any other automotive liquid mixed with the motor oil.
Yup, you could siphon it mostly out, fill with diesel and go on your way. The rest of those cleanups is about profit.
My truck is back home and in the garage. He dropped the tank and drained it and then wiped it clean on the inside. Replaced the fuel filters. Now it says it has 36 miles before empty. I better not forget to get fuel on the way to work.
I put 6"x6" DIESEL FUEL ONLY decals on our pickups, seems some of the crew had trouble paying attention. Fortunately no engines were destroyed. I never could get some of them to fuel up before dropping the truck off for the incoming crew, it was a pita dealing with vehicles those jokers brought in running on the fumes.
I remembered to get fuel this morning. 27 gallons, which means when my truck says its running on fumes it actually has about 7 gallons in it. So, between the 20 gallons or so of wasted fuel, $180 for the repair and assuming about $100 for the tow, it could have been a lot worse.
Be glad you didn't put DEF in the fuel tank. It seems to happen a lot. If ran that way your repair and tow bill would pale in comparison to the repairs on a truck with DEF in the fuel tank. If I recall your truck doesn't use DEF so not an issue but anyone that does I've heard upwards of $10,000 - $16,000. :o And not a covered warranty repair. Just saying.
Brent
Never put gas in the Diesel truck tank until yesterday. Was at a small town elevator with a credit card self pay setup that was in a different location and punch the number in with a not normal pump setup and grabbed the wrong one and started pumping and my wife said your putting gas in 😂. Ran over there and stopped it luckily less than 3/4 gallon. So got the right stuff in and put in 20 gallons got back on the beaten path and added Howes then topped the tank off.
Just run it on gas 😂.
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I've seen that video. Hunter didn't give a hoot about trying to destroy it. That dude does some crazy stuff.
Brent
$180 is pretty good deal. I was happy to pay the $340 (2 tanks) after being quoted $1400 from a bigger shop.
My truck does take def. We will try to avoid that one at all costs.
I was mowing the field. Most times the wife does it. She loves to mow. But she started it and was not feeling good the other day, so I was pressed into service.
We do it with a 30hp tractor and a 5 foot bushog. She does it once every couple weeks. We don't let it get 3 foot tall and then do it once a year.
I was mowing down by the edge of the woods. The grass don't grow much on the edge of the woods. The grass was not even an inch high.
I was moving right along mowing the grass, keeping away from the low hanging branches. Many hang down about 5 feet off the ground. The limbs need another trimming.
So as I said, I was moving right along and keeping away from the low limbs. I saw some small popple bushes trying to grow up on the edge of the woods, maybe a foot high. Well, I thought I will just whip right over there and nip those pesty things right off. So, I veered off to the right and cut those pesty things right off. We do have a fiberglass roof over the tractor. Just as I was doing a fine job on those pesty bushes, one of those low hanging branches, that I was keeping away from, hits the roof and tries to take me off the tractor. Remember I was moving right along. I did not plan on being under those low hangers but had to get those popple bushes. After fighting that limb that almost took my head off, I realized about 20 feet away that my glasses were not on my head!!!!
Tractor is stopped and I start looking. I can kinda see without the glasses and I was looking. I knew where it happened but thought the glasses might of went flying or maybe the bushog ate them. So I looked and I looked. Kept waiting for the crunch sound, meaning I just stepped on them. I looked for 15 minutes, on the tractor too and on the bushhog. I was going to go up and get the wife. Another pair of eyes sure can help. But I looked for a few more minutes and I found them!!! But happiness was short lived, only one lense. The search is back on. I took a stick and put that into the ground and put my gloves where I found the glasses. I looked where I found the glasses but no lense. I spend another 10 minutes looking and back to where I found them 2-3 times. Back one more time to the same spot I looked 2-3 times. That time it payed, off I found the missing lense!!! I was able to press it back in. I am back in seeing business again.
I need new glasses, but just would like to have a pair while I am waiting for the new ones.
Not the first time I lost them.
Once I was trimming some low hanging branches off at just about dark. A branch came down and hit me in the face and I thought, it's almost dark, call it a night. Back to the house I go. I always remove my work clothes in the entrance way. I reach up to remove my glasses and they are not there!!! I knocked them off with that limb. I knew where it happened. I waited until morning to go look for them. I just about walked right to them. They was right where I thought they was.
Another time I lost them.
I was looking for a lost chain that I use with my 3 pt logging winch. I was kicking the ground to see if I could find it. Well, all I found was a hornets nest in the ground. I never saw the nest, but felt the hornets. They was around my face and not making me happy. I had my hands just a moving as I was running away. After I stopped running I realized my glasses was gone!!! This is where raspberry bushes are 4 feet tall. I went looking and found them in just a few minutes.
Been lucky 3 times so far.
Probably will get a new pair and then I will lose them and won't be able to find them.
When I get a new pair, I keep the old pair for backup.
Very glad you found them.
Similar happened to me when I tossed a small broken branch out of the way fall of '21. Grabbed the glasses and flicked them off. No idea how far either.
While looking, afraid of stepping on them.
But there they were, just laying amongst the leaves.
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I was in a creek working on a tree felled by a storm. Stumbled, branch across the face, plunged into the water, glasses gone. Tried to find them but all I did was stir up the muck. I wear a leash on em now.
Hey cfarm, that's the longest message I've ever seen you post. I liked the story and I'm glad you found your glasses.
And HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
I agree Cutter. That was an interesting read and a super long post and it was done in the "Dumb" topic.
Happy Birthday my non-Grit Friend. :)
Yes that was a long post. Of all topics too. :( But it ended good.
Thanks for noticing my birthday guys.
Happy Birthday Cfarm! I hope you find your next pair of lost glasses as successfully as the previous lost ones! (Yes, there will be more lost glasses, there always are.)
Happy birthday Ray!!!
Happy Birthday
Old Greenhorn. I hope I found the next pair. They will be the new pair. Thank you for the birthday wishes.
I see doc henderson noticed my birthday to. Thank you.
OntarioAl is there with some birthday wishes too. Thank you.
Ray, it sounds like you need PPE when you mow. maybe a hard hat with eye protection. :)
I am on my way down to cut some limbs. That is what I really need to do.
Happy Birthday Ray. I resemble your glasses story.
Thank you Dakota.
You can tell your story too. ;D
But, but,but it was trees, not rocks that were your nemesis. :D
Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday Ray!!!
May all your lost glasses be easily found.
Truth be told I would rather loose my eyeglasses then loose my beer glass. :D
Southside, no rocks this time. ;D But I bushoged a place that I dug some rocks out of. It grew up with raspberries bushes and I cut them down. I tried to cut up a few rocks that I never hauled off too. I can see the ones that stick up about 6 inches. Those softball size ones are the one that I hit. :o
Thanks for the birthday wish.
PC-Urban-Sawyer, thanks for the birthday wish too.
I've been putting off new ones for about a year. probably when I get new glasses, they will get knocked off my face again and I won't find that pair.
Hey doc, I just came in from doing a trim job on those low hanging limbs. I started out where all the trouble started. I have a roybi pole saw, only last about an hour. But I was cutting some limbs off about 4 inches across. Did not get it all done, but enough to keep me busy cleaning up the mess I made.
But that hour is long enough for me.
Now to grab the chainsaw and saw out the big wood.
My flatbed dodge has cheap aftermarket towing mirrors on it that I bought from Amazon. Last year one of the glass panels, which includes a convex mirror and a flat piece, fell off and cracked the flat glass. I bought a new mirror piece and replaced just that part. Well, last week it fell off again and broke again. I forgot that I needed to save the plastic piece that the glass is attached to and threw it away. I had to buy a whole new piece which wasn't terribly expensive. It even has a defrost element, but my truck doesn't have that. It didn't connect to my mirror frame in the same way and so I had to glue it. I hope that holds up better than the clips that kept coming undone from the other one. At least I have a mirror again. It was annoying yesterday driving the truck without a driver side mirror.
If your glasses are loose, you may lose them. ;)
you need the old-fashioned tall mirrors with braces that go to the door in three places.
Amazon.com: Fit System H3641 Driver/Passenger Replacement West Coast Universal Mirror : Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/Fit-System-H3641-Passenger-Replacement/dp/B001A0NBYQ/ref=sr_1_16?crid=3U24HJI5PPRVU&keywords=west+coast+mirrors+and+frame+for+truck&qid=1693844017&sprefix=west+coast+mirrors+and+frame+for+truck%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-16&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc)
with this style you can get replacements for 30 bucks online or at any truck stop along the way. and you can see the ground for backing in, or way back pulling a trailer.
Not having much luck at the lower end of the field.
I got some of the trimming done. Went to put the pole saw away and the oil filler cap was missing. Down I go again for another search. There was alot of limbs to look around, but thought just maybe it might not be under a limb. I was just about to give up and I saw it on the ground, really the last place I was.
As I said not having much luck, but I am lucky I found what I have lost down there. ???
I did go down and spent about an hour sawing out the wood. Then I ran the bush hog over what was left. Chewed it up good. This turned into a big project. But it had to be done.
I rinsed out the oil reservoir with some gas, Don't need and sawdust in there.
We'll it's my turn,
I sent Bill a text of these pictures and story to make sure it passed muster for this thread. ;D @firefighter ontheside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921)
Anyhow I was moving a drill press into an addition I built onto my shop and noticed the table was out of level on it so I decided to level it out. After getting it level I was tightening the nut on the trunnion and I put my hand on the base and felt a tingle. Nah that wasn't a shock so I put the wrench on the nut and my left hand on the base and zap!! electricuted-smiley What the??
So I unplugged the drill press and commenced to analyze the situation. The drill press checked out ok so I got my handy dandy little 3 light tester out to test the receptacle. Hmmm it said hot/neutral reversed. I call BS!
I tested the others on the wall and all checked ok. Time to pull the receptacle. Kill the breaker. Break out the Fluke meter. Pulled a couple other receptacle's to find the source of my issue. Checked continuity on the hot. It's ok. Checked the neutral. That checks good too. Checked ground. Hmmm, say open. Turned breaker back on and started testing. Noticed some ground wires looked loose in one of the outlet boxes. Grabbed the needle nose pliers and gave them a good twist. Test again. Still showing open ground on the suspect receptacle. Check another box. Twist some more ground wires. Now why did them needle nose pliers go flying across my shop. franken-smiley Oh yeah the breaker. Kill it again.
Back to suspect outlet box. Grabbed ground wire and gave a tug. It moved. We'll that ain't right. Pulled half of the ground wire between boxes out of the romex sheath. Houston we have a problem. Grabbed the hot wire and started pulling and I felt it pop and half of it pulled out too. Now I got issues. Here's what I found.
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Now what's the odds of that 4" screw finding it's way into that little hole that's cross drilled in the stud and piercing that romex? Apparently pretty good. Now ya know why they nail them little metal plates on studs near a wire or pipe chase.
All I know is I got pretty *DanG lucky and might wanna play the lottery.
Had that been a pine stud and not hardwood and no insulation in the stud pocket my shop might have torched.
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That screw has been there for several years. It was attaching a stair stringer to the wall. I never gave it a thought when I put it in that I'd line up perfectly with that wire chase. 3-1/2" screw would've never touched it.
The red circle is where the screw was.
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Be careful y'all
Brent
Wow!!
Thinking the length of the screws used was overkill.
You dodged a bullet there. Your lucky day.
Happy Birthday Ray!
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Yikes, I'm glad to hear that you found that short before the issue became much worse!
Quote from: beenthere on September 04, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
Wow!!
Thinking the length of the screws used was overkill.
You dodged a bullet there. Your lucky day.
Yeah you may be right but the stringer ain't gonna fall off. Unless of course the wood burns out behind it.
I wouldn't have found it had I not decided to level the drill press table.
I'm still thinking of playing the lottery.
Brent
Years ago I was helping my brother do a simple remodel on his house in the UP. Tearing down paneling and replacing with drywall, I found at least two of the paneling finish nails going through romex just like that. Also, at some point an addition was put on for an extra bedroom and the ceiling light was wired with speaker wire, wire nuts in the insulation no box. And one more, I found a junction box in the garage attic that did not have a cover because the bundle of wires was so huge a cover wouldn't fit on it. They just layered electrical tape over the huge mound. There might have been wires soldered together as well.
I told him that house was a deathtrap, especially with a new kid. I couldn't believe it hadn't started on fire yet.
moosehunter, thank you!!!
Happy birthday and don't wear the new glasses for outside work.
thank you, trapper.
Good idea, but hard to do.
Happy B-day Ray
8) smiley_beertoast
Yeah,Brent, that's definitely the reason for the steel plates covering the spots in studs with wires. I thought about saying that the other day, but I figured you knew that. :) :)
Is that an 8/4 stringer?
Not just wires, put plates over where the water supply lines run too. Hitting one of those with a screw or nail makes a very bad day. (I've never hit one, but I've done plenty of other dumb things). ;D
Not a bad idea to take pictures - measurements during construction of open stud walls where wires and pipes run before closing it up. Did that on a bathroom remodel job last year, just in case we ever have to do future changes.
I've hit those plates many times with Sheetrock screws and was glad they were there. Glad you found the issue before it became a disaster.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on September 05, 2023, 07:48:17 AM
Yeah,Brent, that's definitely the reason for the steel plates covering the spots in studs with wires. I thought about saying that the other day, but I figured you knew that. :) :)
Is that an 8/4 stringer?
@firefighter ontheside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921)
No Bill it's just shy of 7/4 but the screw head counter sunk about a 1/4" in the ash stringer. That was enough to make its way to the hole where the romex passed through.
I'm in the process of lining the walls with galvalume colored metal barn siding and the ceiling with bright white shop liner metal. I figured the galvalume color wouldn't show the dirt and dust as much and the white would brighten the area up. I'm moving my Logan lathe and Bridgeport mill into this addition to free up space in my main shop area. Kind of my fab shop area I guess. When I get it completed I'll post a follow up picture in this thread of "Did something un-dumb today" ;D
Brent
When you do photos I want to see that lathe and what configuration and vintage you have. I have owned 3 logans and still have one left. I may have some spare parts for you that I didn't find when I sold the last one. I used to have headstocks, tailstocks, spindles, cross slides and other parts surplus to my needs. Not sure what's left. Them are good little machines.
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About 4 years ago a new neighbor moved in and started worked on this custom house some architect designed and built a decade ago. They had a funny odor in the upstairs bathroom. So he cut a hole in the sheetrock and found black mold. Long story shorter, he wound up doing a full tearout of all walls, tiles, and fixtures. Found a drain pipe in the wall somebody ran a sheetrock screw through and it dripped for decades. Bug damage in the stubs too. Full new bathroom including all fixtures and tiles, studs, sills, the whole nine. Just for one little screw inside a wall. Food for thought.
So put off doing all those home projects just in case? Got it. 8)
Saw a video the other day showing how modern impact drivers will slam a screw right through those plates without skipping a beat.
Thank you Peter!!
Brent, someone must be looking out for you!
My dear bride wants a fall garden.
I used the rotary cutter and cut the grass last week. After a few days of drying I figured it was ready over the weekend to till it with the 6' pto driven rotary tiller.
Well the gearbox on the tiller went to where all good gearboxes go when they die. I smelled the gear oil but didn't see any from the seat. When it quit turning the tines and making "that noise" I stopped and inspected. The oil had left out the back. ::)
That was dumb enough...
BUT there's more..
I shopped for parts. Total repair parts will be near $1,000. Wanting to be sure about options I shopped for a new rotary tiller. Most were $3,000 ish. I found Agri Supply in Garner has a light duty 6' version for $2,100. So I called, gave the stock number and was assured that they had 9 in the equipment yard.
With that assurance, I drove 2.5 hours one way to find they had 9 of the $3,100 versions. Too much for me.
I came home, got the disc harrow out of the woods and disked the garden spot. It worked up good. Used the cultivating tractor to make lists and put in fertilizer. Could have been done before lunchtime. As it was I finished about a half hour ago. The heat index was 100° which didn't help my disposition at all. :D
Should have done it that way 3 days ago..
Did I say I love my wife?
I have a 5-foot Agri I bought 30 years ago. 1 set of replacement tines. Made in Italy I think and sold by JD before they decided to make their own green version. It was 1,00.00 buck back then.
My 6' Tar River/King Cutter/County Line tiller was $1,200 in 2010 when I bought my tractor.
It's been used pretty hard for gardens and food plots multiple times a year. My maintenance has been adequate at least until now. Maybe adequate wasn't enough.
The brakes on my 17 F350 have been squealing for a little while, so I knew it was time for brakes. The truck has 90,000 miles. I debated about doing it myself, but finally decided to do it. Started taking the first tire wheel off and things went downhill quickly. My battery impact would not take the nuts off. I couldn't break them loose with a socket and breaker bar. Got out the tire iron that came with the truck and you can see what happened with that. Finally I had to go back to the breaker bar and use a 5' cheater. I think the tire shop that put my tires on got a little over zealous with torquing the nuts. Tire would not come off until I put a 2x4 against the inside of the wheel and hit it with a sledge from the other side. Got the caliper off and the pads were not as bad as I thought they were gonna be. Took off the caliper bracket and found that one of the slide pins was locked in place, full of rust. Had to work hard to get them out. Called Oreillys and off I went to get pins. I decided to get 4 of them. Good thing I did because the other side was the same way. I managed to not bust any knuckles and now have good working brakes again.
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I would be so happy if they would just got to a fixed caliper with dual piston. then the pads would move and the slides would not need to. Plus the stopping power would be so much better.
I hope you anti seized your lugnuts before you put them back on. I know this is a very controversial topic. I have lubed all of my lugnuts and never had one come off or even loosen up. Proper torque procedure is very important.
I thought that story with the bent tire iron was going to end up like years ago on my old antique International pickup lug nuts, (or at least 1 old semi trailer I dealt with). Fight, fight, fight, and nothing comes loose.
Then see clean thread ABOVE the nut. :o
And realize I'm just tightening a left hand thread. :D
I've been pretty amazed at how stuck on a wheel can get. I haven't had too much trouble with lugnuts but I've spent too much time kicking the heck out of tires or wheels to get them off the posts.
I had a similar situation with the wife's car over the weekend. I'd noticed her brakes where squealing as she was pulling out of the driveway. She can be, well, hard on brakes. At a touch over 60k miles I figured it was about time since that's what she got out of the first set on her old car. So I spend the money and got new pads and rotors all the way around.
I finally got around to getting it in the barn over the weekend, jacked the front up and pulled both tires. Hmm, pads are only half worn and the rotors look good yet, the backs must be shot. Moved to the back and pulled the tires, those rotors look decent also but the pads were a pain to get off. Pads are still half also, but there was enough rust on them to not let them move freely in there holders. A little clean up and some grease and she's good to go. Now I have $400 worth of parts on the shelf I won't need for another year or two.
And to make it even better, the brakes on my car started to squeal yesterday. I think I'll pull some tires and check some stuff out before I ASSUME what I need and order parts.
@Resonator (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=37685) More than one tire jockey has peeled the studs off doing that with an impact gun. I almost made the same mistake on an early 60's Plymouth.
QuoteI've spent too much time kicking the heck out of tires or wheels to get them off the posts.
That's when you put the goop on the hub between the studs where it contacts the rim. (Being careful not to get any on where the brake pad rubs). So the rim doesn't corrode itself on. (Helps the next mechanic, which might be you). smiley_thumbsup
Every tire shop that I know of uses young bucks with air impacts to remove and replace tires. All of the studs get stretched a bit each time. :-X
I'd only changed brakes a time or two when I tried on my old minivan. By hand I broke the stud and I was at a complete loss for what to do. It was then that I learned they were just a stud that poked through the hole in the rotor, no big whoops.
Resonator- what is the goop? I change my wheels frequently for winter tires, it'd be nice to put some on here in a couple months.
I used "goop" as a general term. ;D
The youtube mechanic I follow uses fluid film in an aerosol spray can, though I think you could use a thin layer of anti-seize also to prevent metal to metal contact.
I am flying today.....I hate flying....
Stop in for a beer!
I stopped using silver anti seize because it dries out and stops working. I started using CRC disk brake anti seize. best decision I ever made. it never gets hard and works so much better. It goes on everything including the wheel mount surface and the lugnuts.
Only going to Green Bay and North to the UP ...Manistique taking my parents to watch my nephew play football. Just kind of a quick trip. If I was going clear to NY I would stop for a beer.
Well then stop and see @Jeff (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1) ! :D
Doc is more than welcome any time, but we are still a couple 3 hours on past his destination.
The best way to break a rim frozen to a hub is too loosen all the lug nuts 1 turn and drive slowly around the block weaving from side to side. Then every spring when you take your winter tires off lube all the sliders and pad/caliper contact points. Only takes 15-20 min per tire and no more brake jobs!
Sunday morning waiting for the rain to stop so I can pull my boat out of the water. I have to idle it over the launch to get it on the trailer because........
I had troubles getting to my 2001 200 EFI mercury to idle this summer and also it would completely shut down while running at speed. I had Dan a good friend a mobile mechanic come and look at it last week as I want to fix it this fall before I put it away for the winter. It also quits at startup and then will not start for an hour or 2, almost like it is flooded. He plays with some of the screws with stops as I had adjusted the long idle screw with stop to get it idle faster. Wrong on my part. He decided that it needs electric testing as he believes it is an electric coponent that is quitting and wants to spend time with a meter on it at his shop, versus in the lake. I get the boat running real nice and decide a hot lap is needed before I put it on the trailer. I come back to the dock to drop off Cathy and it will only drop to 3000k RPM and so I'm going in circles trying to figure this new problem out. finally I turn it off and paddle into the railway. Here it comes.....I then try to pull the shifter back to neutral and really horse on it..... Yesterday I open the cover and the set screws all vibrated as we never locked the lock nuts and so as I am pulling on the shifter I bend the arm the set screw are on......I am now going to have to tow this boat the launch and find a new arm for a 22 year old motor......FFS
Yesterday afternoon. Pulling up poplar tops and possibly a small saw log off a big log I cut last week. The top broke into several pieces and fell down into a deep run-off. I was using a snatch block and long 1/4" cable to pull them back to where I could hook the JD 750 tractor to them and pull down the hill to cut up for firewood or lumber if they are big and solid enough.
I spotted a dead double maple on the edge of the run-off leaning over the edge and decided it would make good firewood. I hooked the snatch block to a small maple to direct it back uphill. I notched it and made a back cut leaving a wide enough hinge to hold it then hooked the tractor 90 * downhill from the block and tried to pull the tree over. It did not fall so I gave it a jerk and one of the forks fell straight at me. It was pretty rotten but the top was still 3-4 inches in diameter at the top. It hit the rollover bar and stopped it from hitting me. The top broke into small pieces when it hit. I'd probably have survived relatively intact but with a real headache or some bruises. I should have used a longer cable. Six feet longer and it would have missed me even though there was no reason to suspect it would fall in my direction based on the steps I had taken. The rest of the tree fell as planned on the next tug.
Howard,
Trees like that are called Widow Makers for a reason. Murphy's law states if a 6 foot longer cable was used...............6 more feet of limb would have fallen. :o
hugs, Brandi
The jerk was dumb. Glad you are okay.
I disagree.
To clarify..
Quote It did not fall so I gave it a jerk and one of the forks fell straight at me.
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I should have used a longer cable or put tension on before I made my cuts. A green/solid tree could never have fallen in my direction. The rotten top was weak and shaking it let it go. A harder jerk and it would have gone with the main fork.
When I do those with dead stuff upstairs I try to avoid sudden moves. I do my face cut, then put just enough tension on the line to keep it taught. I do my back cut and watch for movement, if it starts to open I am done. If I get to a point where the hinge is the proper thickness with no movement, I get in the buggy and pull steady and easy. If it doesn't want to come, I leave a bit more tension, but not a lot, go back and thin that hinge just a bit more and that should do it, either it goes over at that point or I give it a pull and it comes along. It may take longer, but those trees are very tricky and deadwood cares about no man. Haste can get a boy hurt. Glad you are OK Howard.
This one was much older and more fragile than it looked. The natural lean was 40' down a run off where it would be a lot of work to retrieve so I was basically pulling it uphill with the tractor, snatch block and cable. The notch was right as was the back cut but as it turns out not deep enough so when I put tension on it my tractor was pointed 90 degrees down hill but was not heavy enough. The initial jerk was just talking the slack out which shook the fork free. I could have stopped with tension and probably should and increased the back cut but there was risk to that too. The second jerk took the main tree down as planned and in the safe area. A longer cable was really the right answer in this case.
I have seen a tree that size kill a man on an open station tractor when he pulled it over towards himself. Remember it only takes 5 ft lbs of force to break a clavicle, or 8 ft lbs to break a neck.
Be careful out there, I know this forum has lost very good folks to quick dumb accidental happenings.
Just a little sawing pointer, if you fail to tension your blade your sawmill will not perform well..... ::)
I had the little predator 6.5 hp motor that runs my hydraulics decide it wasn't going to run anymore. It was a spark issue after I chased it down. I decided just to go run down to HF and pick up another motor to swap out, and repair this one for another project.. So I hadn't sawn for a while and had backed off the blade tension. So when cutting some 2 x 6 cribbing my blade wandered and i made some slightly curved, designer dimensions. I wondered why for just a moment and realized my folly...Lucky the blade didn't come off and ruin itself... my 2" side stayed fine so at least I got my cribbing....
I swapped out blades and it wasn't cutting good. This blade must have gone from the dull box to the sharp box without visiting the sharpener.
Changed the blade again but wasn't cutting good. Drive band was slipping. Was at the end of adjustment. Was able to shift both wheels because of how I designed it but messed up the tracking. Thought I had it back and started cutting. Dove bad, skipped off the back side of the guide and the idle side and ate the v-belt tire.
Put two new B57's on, adjusted tracking and tension. Cutting better than ever!
Next weekend we have a PR event at the firehouse which is a movie night. We show a movie on an inflatable screen in the engine bay and cook hotdogs. This weekend I had to put up signs around the area inviting folks to come. I carry about 15 signs in the back of the truck with a camper shell. Get out at each location and open the back to grab a sign. Well, at the second to last location I got out, opened the back and grabbed a sign. Stuck the sign in the ground and went on to to my last location. You can probably see where I'm going here. Got to my last spot and went to open the back. Guess what...its already open. DanG it. Luckily all my expensive gear was still sitting there. The only thing I had lost was a sign. Drove back toward my last location and found a sign lying in the road with no damage. I continued on to the previous spot just to make sure, but there was nothing else on the road. Back in the day when I used to "ride backwards" as we call it I used to hang my turnout coat on the side of the truck on one of the pump discharges. Got to the call and I had no coat. Got lucky in two regards. One was there was no fire and I didnt need my coat. Second was that someone had seen the coat come off and stopped to pick it up and brought it back to the station.
You had better call it a day. 8)
Well It's been a month and everybody has been good, I guess it's taken a while and is back around to me again. Now I took no photos so it really didn't happen, but if it had happened, this is the way it would go.
I went down to make some lumber on the sawmill today and as always, when I got there I had to play hide and seek to learn where the Toolcat got left this time, as that is my prime machine for the mill. Well, since Bill put in the new OWB and it faces 180° from where the old one faced, he had the Toolcat parked at the other end, where it is a tighter fit and a load of junk logs on it. No biggie, I lifted the load and threw some bunkwood under them so the could cut the up off the ground and then started backing down the slope to where my truck was to grab my tools. Well there was some lumber on the right side of the machine I didn't want to back over, so I was watching that and creeping along slowly when all of a sudden things happened real fast, the machine shot back about a foot and the rear left corner dropped about a foot also. There was also some load and hard crunching noise. I thought I was gonna roll, but it stopped as fast as it started. As it turned out, I had backed the left rear tire right off the edge of what Bill calls a 'mafia block' that he has a a retaining wall on his gravel pile. I was hung but good, just laying on the skid plate. I took a breath and figure it out and with 50 back and fourth moves I could crab the rear right tire over far enough to the right that it was trying to climb back up on that block. Finally, with the application of the right (newly created) foul language, some extra throttle, and some luck, I got out. It all took about 15 minutes. Hours later when I got back to civilization I left Bill a voice mail and just said "Those skid plates on the Toolcat work REALLY well!" There was one single concrete drag mark on the skid plate and no deformation at all. I was relieved for that. I sure felt stupid, really stupid. Well I would have felt stupid if it had happened, which of course, it didn't. :D ;D
Well, if you got it out without the help of some other piece of equipment then its just part of the job. That's what it was made for. I got a skid steer in a precarious spot years ago on my pond dam and thought if I tried to make one more move I was gonna be in the pond. I gingerly got out of it and went to get the tractor and my dad. Dad was on the tractor and pulled back a bit while I drove the skid steer out of danger. No pics of that either.
Now that it has your undivided attention! :D
Well if you were a young greenhorn you wouldn't have fared so well.
I did one today that still has me calling myself names. I am doing some work in my garage and I had the usual mess of tools, cords and parts on the floor. When I picked up the tangle of an extension cord, it brought a pair of tin snips with it. So I go to close the tin snips and lock it shut with the little swivel arm thingy. But the thingy is to the wrong side of the locking pin on the opposite handle.
So I open my hand to let the snips open up, push the locking arm to the right with the thumb of my left hand and then close the snips again. The snips do their job and nip right through 1/2 of the extension cord, causing a popping sound, an electrical arc about an inch from the palm of my left hand and made me do a skeleton dance.
Screwed up the tip of the tin snips and damaged the electrical cord. My heart however, is pumping fine and dandy due to my improvised defibrillator. electricuted-smiley electricuted-smiley electricuted-smiley
Well if I was young I probably would have doubled down and got myself really stuck, or worse. Bill has always been real good, and calm about me and his equipment, he trusts me, I don't know why, except that I fix what I break and that is apparently a new experience for him. :D
The first time I got the Toolcat stuck and had to ask for his help, he just laughed and laughed at me. I was more than embarrassed that I had to ask for help but it was REALLY stuck, up to the running boards. It didn't help that Inga, his 6 year old came along to help and was giving me driving suggestions. But this time, when I confessed over the phone that I had backed off that mafia block before I could finish the sentence he couldn't contain himself and let go with some explicatives. I guess he was expecting that to develop into a rollover. He got hold of himself right quick when I told him I got it out with no damage, but I was hung up for a while while I figured out how to drive out of it. I think he was more worried about me than the machine, really.
Thanks Tom, you jinxed me saying "Well it's been a month and everybody has been good". Lol, not really but it sounds good anyhow.
So here we go,
It's been mentioned many many times on here and I'm guilty and very lucky.
All I can say is "WEAR YOUR CHAPS!! DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!!" Those WERE a good pair of britches Enough said, now I got logs to pull out of the woods.
I'm one to talk but please be safe.
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Brent
I've seen that tear in my chaps, but never in my britches. Much too close to the leg ligaments just near the knee cap.
Doctors have a tough time repairing those ligaments, I have been told.
I think Jill can fix those britches. Good as new. I've been wanting a pair of chainsaw pants. Maybe I will get them before it gets cold. I assume they are nice to wear when its cold.
Brent,
You were just stylizing them britches! Now you can grab your geetar and go play some country music.
Glad you weren't hurt worse than shown in the picture. smiley_sweat_drop
(Okay - I gotta ask. Is the saw okay? ;))
could have been worse, good lesson to us all! Thanks for sharing!
Brent, you probably don't feel this way, but man, it looks like you got lucky! Wonder how you happed to get the saw in that area? Lesson learned right? If it was one of your firefighters, I know what your first question would be.
Also wondering, was that a full comp, or skip chain? :D
I just ordered some Husqvarna chainsaw pants. $169 on Amazon.
It might be in this thread.....
This was before this thread was started.
My stupid move (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=98807.0)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on October 27, 2023, 01:23:16 PM
Brent,
You were just stylizing them britches! Now you can grab your geetar and go play some country music.
Glad you weren't hurt worse than shown in the picture. smiley_sweat_drop
(Okay - I gotta ask. Is the saw okay? ;))
Thanks for asking Howard,
Kept on working and cleaned the chain up real good on the next pass through the log. Saw working like new
Brent
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on October 27, 2023, 02:34:00 PM
Brent, you probably don't feel this way, but man, it looks like you got lucky! Wonder how you happed to get the saw in that area? Lesson learned right? If it was one of your firefighters, I know what your first question would be.
Also wondering, was that a full comp, or skip chain? :D
Semi chisel Tom ;D
Brent
Maybe we should ban semi-chisel chain, or require a permit and registration fee to use it? :D
Or you could just get some chaps or pants before you do any more cutting. You had your one close call. That's more than a lot of folks get.
Pants are good for all day work, chaps are better for intermittent use. I use both, the back of my pants are very breathable and I actually prefer chaps in the winter, they are warmer and keep the snow from laying on my pants and melting.
Whatever you choose, get something, then USE it. ;D
According to the Dr who did the surgery on my left shin, the only thing worse than a chainsaw cut is being cut by oyster shells and barnacles.
I've had both. The chainsaw cut nicked my shin bone enough the Dr.put me on crutches, no weight bearing, for a month. That included 34 stitches and hurt bad.
The oyster shells and barnacles required close to 60 stitches in my leg and hand and the antibiotics were very strong. My system took weeks to recover.
I wear chaps when the chainsaw is in use. I don't wear chaps when loading the boat at the coast (I fell on a boat ramp and got cut up by oyster sharks and barns).
Well Tom believe it or not my chaps were in the loader bucket. I thought I was done and I spotted a small limb that would get hung up while skidding out the log so I grabbed the saw real quick to knock it off and that's when it got me. I had the chaps but never put them back on. It was totally all on me. Wore them all day today no matter if I was on the tractor, in the bobcat or bucking logs. Not my first time getting nailed by the saw but hope it's my last.
Brent
FFOTS- Let me know how those chaps treat you. My pair was significantly less expensive, I wonder if it matters.
I tried them on tonight. They are pretty comfy and fit well. I wear size 34 normally, but I ordered 36 and they fit well. They also seem warm, so I think they will work well this winter. They have elastic in the waist. I ordered kind of middle of the road as far as price goes and figured Husqy should know something about chainsaws.
My dumb move was yesterday and not up to my usual standards of dumbness.
My new replacement flip phone from WalMart died 2 nights ago and when charging did not fix it I took it back for replacement. (The screen/monitor died). I had the receipt showing it was 9 days old but we had a hassle because I did not have the box. The store manager finally agreed to accept it and the electronics department head replaced it with the same kind.
I took my new phone to AT&T nearby for a SIM card and activation but when I tried it I got a "Call Failed" message. The lady said, and I believed, it was still downloading. I came home and when I'd try it I got the same call failed message so I turned around and drove 25 miles back to AT&T and saw the same lady then her associate came over. I told them I was pithed mostly at myself for leaving with a non-functioning phone and them for not fixing the problem. (I was also mad I could not get customer support by phone from their company but I only speak English, and understand a little French and Arabic but no Asian dialects.) The guy checked and the SIM card number did not match what was on the box or what they'd sent in so I'd never have been able to fix it remotely even if I could speak Tagalog. They finally did get it activated and I tested out-going and in-coming before I left the store.
No bones were broken or equipment damaged in this case - just wasted time and milage. I won't make that mistake again. (I'll go find something new and dumber to do I am sure. ::))
I hate dealing with activating new phones. There is always a hassle.
@aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516) I wore the chainsaw pants all day yesterday. They were not as warm as I expected them to be. Of course they are warm in the front where the protection is, but on the back they are thin. They were comfortable and not annoying like chaps can be. Of course I didnt test them for their intended purpose. I will just assume they are good at that. They have some nice zippered pockets in the regular pants places. I have declared war on bradford pear trees this year. I cut down some behind my parents barn. The biggest was about 12" diameter. I found more of them in the woods today and cut those down today. I have found that this is a good time of the year to cut them. We had a really good 20 deg morning yesterday, so bugs have been reduced. Most other leafy trees(other than pine) have dropped their leaves, but the pears are still full of green leaves, so they are easy to spot. The war will go on for years, but this is a start. I needed to get rid of all of the trees that will produce seed next year. Now I will have to keep cutting down the new shoots and start spraying the cut saplings with roundup.
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I am cutting some aspen. Cut one and 100 will try to take its place. ::) :o
What I do is cut a bowl in the stump. I fill it full of rock salt and water. I check on it at least weekly. If it needs salt, I add salt, or water as needed. The salt is drawn down into the roots and kills the stump.
But most of the trees are in one area, not spread over 20 acres.
I keep a 5 gallon bucket, with a lid of salt, in this area. Water is in a bucket too.
Much cheaper then round up too. :o
But in my case, if the trees were over 20 acres, I would still do the above.
Because with aspen I would have to spray 10 acres to get rid of the aspen.
But whatever you do, keep up on it. Don't be slack and say I will do it next week. A steady diet of killer will get rid of just about any unwanted trees.
I don't know how Husky makes their pants or which ones you got Bill. I have Elvex pants and I was looking for something cooler rather than warmer. The fronts are as expected and a good insulator but the backs are made of some some really thin stuff I would call spandex like, but I can't say that here, so I won't call it that, just something similar. ;D I will say, first couple of times I put them on it felt like my butt was hanging out in free air and it took some getting used to.
But I will say, wearing them while cutting in June was not as bad as wearing chaps. I was prepared to change into pants or shorts in the woods when I was done cutting, but they weren't uncomfortable to need that and I just wore them until I got home. I am not sure what these would be like cutting in the winter because I usually wear thermals and heavier pants and put the chaps on. I should try them, but I'm afraid my butt would freeze off and I can't imagine falling or sitting in the snow. I would have to put my chaps on backwards. :D
I will confess I bucked up some farwood yesterday from the pile and did not wear the chaps. Shame on me, they were ten feet away.
If you were closer I'd be happy to come over and help you wage war. I cut so few decent sized green trees I am loosing my skills I fear. These mushroom trees are like 'trainers'.
Interesting idea with the rock salt on the stump. We could do that on the bigger ones. I wonder if the deer would come around and lick on it. These pears grow up from the roots just like aspen do, though I don't think they spread in the same way as aspen. I could be wrong about that. I tried to grow aspen trees here about 15 years ago. I bought 5 saplings and they did great for several years and grew to about 20 feet tall. Then the 14 and 17 year cicadas coincided and destroyed the aspens. They seemed to be very attracted to those poor trees. They have all died now.
Same Tom, I felt like it was very drafty in the back. These are made with kind of a nylon twill fabric that is not very heavy.
Tom Tom Tom,
I thought you would learn from my mistakes. ;D My chaps were only 20' away laying in the loader bucket. All I can say is please be safe. It happens in the blink of an eye.
I have Husqvarna chaps and they been snagged before. They definitely served the purpose.
Brent
Well, I didn't cut myself so there is that. :D
I bet all animals will come and lick the salt.
They did up around the stumps too.
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on November 02, 2023, 06:09:37 PM
I hate dealing with activating new phones. There is always a hassle.
@aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516) I wore the chainsaw pants all day yesterday. They were not as warm as I expected them to be. Of course they are warm in the front where the protection is, but on the back they are thin. They were comfortable and not annoying like chaps can be. Of course I didnt test them for their intended purpose. I will just assume they are good at that. They have some nice zippered pockets in the regular pants places. I have declared war on bradford pear trees this year. I cut down some behind my parents barn. The biggest was about 12" diameter. I found more of them in the woods today and cut those down today. I have found that this is a good time of the year to cut them. We had a really good 20 deg morning yesterday, so bugs have been reduced. Most other leafy trees(other than pine) have dropped their leaves, but the pears are still full of green leaves, so they are easy to spot. The war will go on for years, but this is a start. I needed to get rid of all of the trees that will produce seed next year. Now I will have to keep cutting down the new shoots and start spraying the cut saplings with roundup.
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I sawed some lumber from some BP's that my brother cut. It looks really good!
Interesting. I could probably saw something out of one of the trees I cut down. I will look into harvesting a log this week.
From what I've read pear wood is great for wood turning, carving, and making some musical instruments. Particularly wood flutes and the inside of harmonicas, as it holds up well to "mouth moisture". :)
most all fruit and nut woods are good for smoking.
Wonder what the ballistics are for a muzzleloader ramrod pushed out of the barrel by a 250 grain bullet and 90 grains of Pyrodex?
Answer - Nobody knows, they can't find the ramrod!
Dumb and painful! If you are going to be dumb, you better be tough! (Old yet very true saying)
Inspection of the rifle proved it to be fine!
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DanG, you need to put an expandable broadhead on your ramrod, so you'll have a chance to take down a deer with it. Most of the dumb things I do hurt or are expensive or both.
Ted,
I'm still looking for mine too. Mine was fiberglass and I assume it just shattered. ML still shoots fine and actually I shoot better groups with it than with my 30-06.Killed a nice doe with it last December at about 80 yards.
What's up with the band-aid? Mine was a non-event; just never found the ramrod and had to replace it.
Nuttin wrong with Ted exceptin he is ugly and trying to imitate me.
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Y'all know I'm his hero. :)
Ted,
Maybe your wife can put some silver and black paint on the bandaid to camouflage it!
Ted, I was just wonder'n did anything hit what you was aiming at. ;D
Was it an African or European ram rod? ;D
Looks like an ad for those nose strips to reduce snoring... smiley_sleeping ;D
I am a Lynn Davis fan for sure! :D
The bullet missed the paper target but hit the edge of the board it was mounted on. The shot might have killed a deer if it was facing to the right. That's the trick anyway isn't it?
For full disclosure, I'm thinking it must have been a European ramrod- Spanish made. Traditions Pursuit XLT .50 caliber.
The rifle kicked like yearling bull in the head gate just before becoming a steer! Let's say I now have first hand experience with both dumb things so I'm entitled to compare them :o He still became a steer shortly after that kick, I was a younger man then.
Generally, the rifle recoil is relatively mild, Besides the pain on the bridge of my nose, it took a while to figure out what went wrong.
I have a semicircular gash the shape of a Redfield 3x9 scope eye piece on my nose. Might have black ryes in the a.m.
The bandaid remains in place to prevent bleeding. It is bad enough but the headache continues the reminder. It was bad enough to take away my enthusiasm for a Sunday evening hunt!
My son took a shot yesterday with his ML and missed an 8 point. We were sighting his in and correcting the 12" error to the left. I thought I would check mine. It was within the 2" ring at 100 yards after the first shot.
The third shot is where I went wrong. I like to take three shots minimum when checking a rifle. I didn't make any adjustments but as you know I had to reload between all shots.
Obviously, I had the same mental lapse that makes us do things like leave a toe board up or saw into s back stop.
Ted wrote.................. I have a semicircular gash the shape of a Redfield 3x9 scope eye piece on my nose.
I would get that from my Redfield widefield 3x9 when I didn't grip my 7MM Remington tight enough. But closer to the eye, on the edge of my nose. Each year I would check zero with one shot. 3 shots would bruise my shoulder up bad.
Brandi,
That reminds me of Sean Connery on the Untouchables "You checked it once now put it away." ;)
Sawyer Ted, Lynn, Howard, & who ever else feels they should be added:
If you fellows are running a high hydraulic internal pressure (aka blood pressure) and feel a need to reduce it, Doc H has a thread (I gave blood today) where he does it without a lot of pain and messyness. Oh and the blood banks are waiting for you.
GAB
GAB,
May the fleas from a thousand camels infest your tent! :D
It's been said here before, but apparently bears repeating: Folks, this isn't a competition. ;D >:(
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on November 06, 2023, 08:25:05 AM
GAB,
May the fleas from a thousand camels infest your tent! :D
Howard:
Send them over I have some woodchuck sulfer bombs and one would be sufficient for them little buggers.
GAB
Quote from: doc henderson on November 05, 2023, 04:35:32 AMmost all fruit and nut woods are good for smoking
I find they don't roll up well in my papers!!! smiley_jester
Tom; they're not reading or listening to you.
The boys are thoroughly enjoying their race to the bloody bottom.
😁
Geez I just picked up a different rifle to try out....now I'm nervous.
Quote from: Southside on November 05, 2023, 09:17:31 PM
Was it an African or European ram rod? ;D
I don't think Monty Python ever answered which was faster.
Quote from: K-Guy on November 06, 2023, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: doc henderson on November 05, 2023, 04:35:32 AMmost all fruit and nut woods are good for smoking
I find they don't roll up well in my papers!!! smiley_jester
For rolling purposes you need to saw very very slowly while collecting the sawdust and use that in your papers.
Try it you might like it.
GAB
K-guy, you must not be doing it right! :o
Nebraska, my bother came up one time, and I was building my shop in Hays, Ks. I had not finished the soffits and we had a pigeon problem. he was shooting my pump-up bb gun with a scope and taking them out one by one. then he wanted to shoot my Styer 270. one pull and I said, "let's go do stiches at the office". The scope hit his face, but it had not had time to start bleeding yet.
Thankfully no stitches needed for me. But it still hurts. :D
It sure is hard to shoot good after getting a scope or whatever to the face😬
Decided to go fishing so I can heal! :D
You sure got some tough pigeons there in Hays Doc. :D
Quote from: barbender on November 06, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
It sure is hard to shoot good after getting a scope or whatever to the face😬
Around here it's commonly referred to as "Scope Bite" and easily recognized on the recipient :rifle:
I'm ashamed of this, but I got very lucky and nothing came of it. I hooked up my trailer this morning to go pick up some metal for a carport I'm building. I remember it making a clunk when it "dropped" down over the ball. I closed the latch and put the lock back in, hooked up chains and electric and I was off. The amazing thing is that I drove over 100 miles without an issue. I got home with my stuff and as I was unloading my stuff I looked over at the hitch and saw that the tongue had not dropped down and was just sitting on top of the ball. I can't believe I was so lucky that it did not fall off. Did I say I drove over 100 miles. The good news would have been that my chains were on and on correctly so the trailer wouldn't have gotten away, but something would surely have been damaged. I consider myself a pretty good and responsible trailer user, but that was just plain dumb. The lesson for me is don't trust the clunk and get down there and see that it's seated right.
I bet 5 bucks, it will never happen to you again! must a had some tongue weight! :) not being careful and getting lucky is how we learn! :P :snowball: :D
A friend of mine did the same exact thing with his race car trailer with the race car on the trailer !
Don't do what I did a couple years ago.Hooked my trailer up and hitch didn't want to go down on the ball.Being I almost always wore heavy work boots at the time I (without realizing I had light shoes on) decided to stomp the hitch down with my foot.I had a slight limp for a couple weeks being my foot was swollen up.
I've heard if you try moving a trailer by lifting it with the tip of your pallet forks, and miss high with the forks and hit the hitch coupler, you will have to replace the coupler. :-X
Reminds me of when I drove truck, we were always warned about "dropping a trailer". This usually happened in below zero weather when someone would back under a trailer, and assume the fifth wheel was latched (when in fact it was stuck open with frozen grease). They would then pull out and not make it very far, before the trailer would slide off the fifth wheel and nosedive. :o
Don't feel dumb Bill, just feel lucky. :D ;D
If it makes you feel any better, we had a bad wildland fire a number of years back which had them calling for volunteers from every department in 3 counties to muster the next day for the fireline. It went on for over a week. My guys went down on a day I could not get away, and I went down the next day, but I was alone. I drove over to the firehouse in the wee hours and hitched up the 6 wheeler on the trailer (that's what they needed for moving gear and hose lines). I drove south about 20 minutes but something felt 'off' with the trailer so I pulled over and found that I had never latched the hitch. It was just sitting on the ball with the cam lever opened. Now if it was my trailer I would have been mad at myself, but it was the departments and I felt embarrassed and ashamed. I was 'the guy' that taught everyone about responding with the 6 wheeler, hooking it up, checking all connections twice, as well as all the driver training for it. 6am on the shoulder of a lonely road and I am looking over my shoulder to see if anybody is watching me latch the hitch. ;D How would I explain THAT one to the Chief?
Oh, I have NEVER done anything like that! Nope not ever!
Man, life wouldn't be so hard if we didn't have being human to deal with!
The Iast time I did something like that, I was hauling hay. I stopped to weigh at the fertilizer plant next door to the clinic. I notice the trailer tongue looked taller than it should've. Thankfully it was Sunday afternoon and no one was around and I was empty at the time....
So my turn, has any one ever switched material thicknesses while assembling a project and wondered why you can't pick it up???.....then realized the screws you were using previously are now firmly holding it down to the saw horse. ::)
it's been quite a while for me...........with a trailer
I had to borrow a trailer to go about 100mi to get somthing.
I failed to realize the trailer had a 2 5/16" coupler and I had a 2" ball.
the trailer popped up off the ball as i was pulling into the persons driveway.
I remembered to do some country repair with an old rag over the ball and then put the trailer on.
it got me home but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
with attention to tongue weight (how the trailer is built and loaded) you can get away with this often, but not always. :snowball: Luck, divine intervention, physics or all the above. There but for the grace of God, go I. smiley_swinging_board smiley_brick hits_hardhat smiley_carpenter_hit_thumb
Thanks guys, you make me feel better about doing dumb stuff with my trailer. Yes Doc, tongue weight is definitely what saved me. My trailer has pretty good tongue weight when empty and as it was loaded appropriately, it had good tongue weight even with stuff on it.
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And this is all that I am going to say about that !!! :-X
I had hauled my dump trailer out to a job last winter to haul some logs home. Well, I spent a longer day in the processor than I intended to, so I didn't feel like loading the trailer that night. So I figured I'd just leave the trailer in the woods. I unmatched it, unhooked everything and ran the jack down. Got in my truck and drove home.
Next morning, one of the forwarder operators called wondering what was going on, why my trailer was in the middle of the road? Well once I got to the job, and moved my trailer that was right in the middle of the haul road🤦
I figured out that when I jacked it up, I must not have jacked it quite high enough to clear the pintle hook. So when I took of driving, I was pulling the trailer behind me, with the jack foot sliding along on the frozen road. Then when I finally hit a hole or something, thr trailer got free from the pintle and stayed behind🤦🤦 At least most of my mistakes happen a long ways from civilization🤷
You'll notuce I mentioned pintle hooks, I finally switched all of my heavy trailers over to pintle rings because I always manage to destroy ball hitches when moving them with skid steer forks.
Lynn,
Good thinking parking the mill out of the road in the gutter... ;)
I have a crane that goes on my track loader. My goose neck tongue with the 10-foot crane is about all I can lift. I like using the track loader and crane, as I can swing this way and that, and easily park and jackknife, any trailer. so, I had a stump left and moved it to the back of the trailer behind the wheels to take some weight off. well, I could not get the ball to go in, and each time I bumped it, the trailer rolled and slid on the landing gear down the slight grade on my drive. It was near perfectly balanced with no wight on the tongue. It achieved my goal and more!
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My turn, I didn't want to disconnect the trailer at the shop. I was taking the chainsaw and meeting the tow truck to pick up some maple logs for a customer. we could only get 2 logs on, so we decided to go drop them at the shop 2 mins away. I parked on the road next to a new Audi 3. Went in and unloaded the logs from the flat bed. Jumped back in my truck and drove off to get the final log.... the trailer is 24' with my 2 drop down WM legs welded on the sides at the back so I can load my bobcat. Well as I pulled ahead, I wheeled into the parking lot across the street to make a quick turn around, the pin caught the front of the Audi and tore the front nose cone off. my guess...3-5K by the time that is repaired. The lady owner was a little *pithed but very thankful that I came into her shop to tell what I had done.
I wish you guys would stop, this is turning into a tell-all. I don't have enough time to tell all😂
When I worked for a paving company, I drove a Ford 2 to with a tilt bed utility trailer. The thing with tilt beds, especially a deck over like this one, is the axles are set far forward, and you have a lit of the trailer "tail" hanging back past that pivot point.
Well, one time I ended up on the wrong street trying to find an address (way before Google Maps), it ended up being a dead end with a small cul-de-sac on the end. Without any other options, I made the loop on that cul-de-sac- and wiped out every mail box with the back of that trailer🤦
I don't have a lot of experience with trailers and I'm not sure this is dumb as much as a learning experience...
I remember when I was probably 15 or 16 years old and worked in a big park. One of my jobs was leaf collection with a tractor of some small variety, pulling a leaf collector box thing that was probably about 8 feet long by 5 feet wide or so. Well, I could connect the leaf collector and pull it out of a relatively full barn without issue. I went about my day, collecting leaves, dumping them, and repeating that process. Finally, it was quitting time, so I went back to the barn and proceeded to spend the next two hours attempting to back the collector into it's spot. The amount of backing up, saying "nope," pulling forward, backing up again, saying "nope" (which eventually turned into many other four letter words), I did is still maddening to this day. Someone, somewhere said that backing up short trailers was much more difficult than long trailers. I know I was very frustrated. I hadn't thought about it until just this second, like 30 years later, but I'm sure the leaf collector was light enough for me to take it off the hitch to lift and push it into it's spot by hand.
My 15-yr old learning experience was backing up a hay wagon (4 wheels) hooked behind a hay baler (2 wheels) behind a hand-clutch John Deere G, after pulling down a fenced-in lane and finding there was no outlet to turn around.
Was custom baling hay for the farmer I worked for, and unfamiliar with the farm where the hay was prepped for baling. Got it done eventually.
It's not necessarily the length of the trailer. It's the length of the hitch.
My turn AGAIN. 🤬
Don't drive your SxS on a county road at night during deer rut season. (That was the dumb part) This didn't turn out well for my machine but luckily I had my 6 point harness on and never felt a thing other than being upside down briefly. Rolled from left front to right rear
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Pretty much tore up all the plastic, radiator, front bumper and roll cage. Had dealership inspect. No frame damage. I'll do all the repairs so should save on costs.
To top that off the *DanG deer got away.
Brent
Brent,
Sorry the buck got away. :D Glad you are okay and no major damage to the SXS.
Yes, the deer are not thinking right now. I had one (an 8 point) chase a doe in front of me on my 4 wheeler 3 years ago. They passed 20' in front of me. I stopped, took my 30-06 off, pulled the loaded mag out of my pocket and loaded my rifle. I looked up and the buck was about 40 yards away on top of the doe. I patiently waited till he finished then shot him. 175 lb buck.
Well I know what an inside of a paint marker looks like. ::)
I wanted to put a red mark on the chain, so I know where I started to sharpen my chainsaw.
Pulled on the cap and the whole end came off. :o
Red paint on my left hand and I am standing wondering what just happened.
Paint marker is at least 10 years old.
I'm sorry your sxs is messed up Brent, but happy you were not injured.
Today I responded to a shed fire with brush burning. When I pulled up the narrow steep road I came to the pumpers parked on the road. If I parked on the road I would have caused the next truck to have to use extra hose to give their water to the pumpers that were there first. The ditch was pretty flat and I drove right in. Getting out of the truck was a little tricky because my door was up against a steep bank. I got out without incident, but when I went to close the door my feet went out from under me due to the steepness and the myriads of leaves. I fell on my side and right arm, but got back up without anyone seeing me. I skinned my forearm, but wasn't bad at all. Later I needed to make a phone call to call the son of the landowner. When I reached for my phone it wasn't there. Immediately I figured it had come off my hip when I fell. I told Stephanie, one of my drivers, and while I was digging around in the leaves she called me. First I heard it ringing and then I felt it vibrating. I was standing on it. Luckily with it being in an otterbox and still in the clip it wasn't damaged. All good.
Could have been worse. Imagine if you only felt it and didn't hear it, then thought it was a rattler or something.....
Kinda off topic but kinda not. I'm not gonna do anything dumb today. At least not that I know of. I'm sitting in the sunshine enjoying a cup of Joe in my favorite coffee cup. Thank you @Jeff (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1) and Tammy.
Y'all stay safe now
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Brent
I love to drink coffee out of my cup.
I save mine for special times. I'm afraid of breaking it. I break about one a year and hopefully it's one of the tradeshow giveaway mugs, but sometimes it's not.
Well, I made a mistake discussing trailers...
At the house, I finally got the barn floor done, it's big chunky gravel covered by smaller gravel, it's looser than I'd like but it works fine for the time, energy, and money I have. I've built some lumber racks and started moving all the junk from the yard into it's permanent home in the barn. This weekend it was time to clear the bigger stuff out of the garage and put it in the barn, namely my little gokart buggy thing and the motorcycle.
I have a motorcycle trailer, so I loaded up the bike from the garage and parked it off to the side where I could trade out my winter tires for the "all seasons" for my car, which I also store on this trailer. This was the last thing I moved as it got dark last night.
The trailer was hooked up to the hitch on the mower, and we make our way back to the barn. As I'm pulling into the barn I find the trailer is getting a bit hung up on the entrance, where the grade is a bit more substantial. The mower tires start digging. I turn on the diff-lock back up about a foot and ease into it, and I'm able to get the trailer in. Now, the trailer is only going to fit into a specific spot, so I drive in as much as I can, and start to back up. The mower tires start digging. I pull forward a bit to try again and with a bit of back and forth and turning this way and that I'm finding that the bottom of the trailer is mostly bottomed out and I can't get it to turn into its spot. Well, OK, next I attempt a u-turn to see if I can swing the trailer around and just leave it in the middle of the barn for the time being. Next thing I know I'm about to run the mower into the tractor. Next next thing I know I've got the trailer jack-knifed against the mower's back tire, the front of the mower is basically pressed up against the tractor and nothing is moving. I shut her down and gave up for the day. The loose gravel, at least with smaller mower tires, may be an issue. I see a fair amount of strapping things to the backhoe to get them moved to the proper spots, and I'm not sure what I'll do about the trailer if it's too low for the barn floor.
I would just call that learning what works and what doesn't.
I just hooked up my trailer again and confirmed that it is correctly seated on the ball.
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I would say the problem starts with too many choices and it's easy to "assume" you have the right ball in place. My experience sez that you'd ought to put a pintle hitch on that trailer and be a lot more secure. Just don't forget to push the latch down (don't ask me why I mention that).
That also ensures that fewer folks ask to borrow the trailer, too.
my car trailer is 7k rated and came with a 2-inch ball. I just bumped to 2 5/16th when I replaced it, so just have one size on most. I have a couple 5 x 8 trailer that still have a 2-inch.
Quote from: Oliver05262 on November 13, 2023, 08:33:43 AM
That also ensures that fewer folks ask to borrow the trailer, too.
That never seems to work out the way I want it to for a couple reasons.
All my friends are smart enough to realize I also have a receiver that works for whatever hitch setup the trailer has, and they just ask to borrow that too.
The last 2 times someone in my family moved got stuck helping just to pull the trailer because I "had the right hitch", well and it's my trailer.
I though going to mainly goosenecks would help, now the neighbor asks me to haul his cattle instead of borrowing my trailer.
Luckily, no one has asked to borrow any of the goosenecks yet. The list of people I would trust with any of my trailers isn't very long, the list I would trust with my truck & trailer is really short.
I'm glad my dump trailer is a gooseneck, no one asks to use it.
You can be a nice guy if you want. For me, I just say NO.
I have worked hard for what I have.
For some, I will help and do the job with them with my stuff.
If they borrow something and break it, They say sorry about that. Then the fix comes out of my pocket.
Ben there dun that, no more.
Go buy your own like I did. I don't borrow anything from anyone. Just my way. ;)
While I know pintle hitches have their advantage, there's nothing I like about them. Theyre rattly and noisy. The error I made the other day had nothing to do with the size of the ball. It was just me being dumb. With that said, I did one time accidentally tow the 2 5/16 hitch with the 2" ball. That went ok too luckily. We have a boat trailer and smaller trailer that have the 2" ball.
Quote from: Peter Drouin on November 13, 2023, 03:29:12 PMGo buy your own like I did. I don't borrow anything from anyone. Just my way.
This is how I do it. Any of my friend's that let me borrow things know that I have the cash and the character to replace it if something bad happens. I bring it back greased, full of fuel, and clean.
Pintle hitches have their place, but they are not fool proof. I had an incident when I was in the Air Force. A young airman was towing a large piece of equipment that came unhooked and tore up the back of the tow vehicle. He swore that he hooked it up properly and had the safety cotter key in place. We were very skeptical but did a thorough investigation. After talking to and listening to the people that use the equipment everyday we believed and cleared the young airman. We found that when a pintle hitch gets worn, it is possible to slam it shut with the safety cotter pin in place. That bends the cotter pin, making it into a little crank. If it happens to be turned the right way it slightly raised the latch. Once that happens it is possible, with enough force for the hitch to open up.
Be careful out there.
Doug in SW IA
I had to replace my pintle hitch ring last spring as it was worn half way through. It wouldn't pass the safety we have to get every year. I like the pintle as they are much easier to hook up too.
I'll tell my trailer story. It was not today, or even this year, but I won't ever forget it. I have a compact tractor with backhoe. I have a 16' flatbed trailer that I use from time to time to transport it somewhere else. This particular day I was going to a friends early the next morning to dig a short trench for him, and I thought I would load the tractor on the trailer in the evening so I could get an early start. My trailer lives around in the back yard where the truck can't go, so I used the trailer mover on the tractor to bring it around front and dropped it on the lawn. Got in the truck to hook up, and realized I was almost out of gas. It is a ways to my friends in the opposite direction from the gas station, so better fill up tonight, otherwise I need to backtrack tomorrow. But it was starting to get dark, so I'll load the tractor on the trailer now, then run the truck over and fill it up. Easier to load in daylight, and they have lights at the pump. So, I stuck the backhoe on the tractor, pulled up so my front wheels were just touching the rear of the trailer, reached over the trailer with the bucket and used downpressure to lower the trailer rear to the ground and drove the front wheels on. Then lifted the bucket and the hoe up and proceeded to drive the rest of the way on. Then I moved forward towards the front to balance the weight over the axles. Uh oh. Now I have all the tractor on the trailer, the back of the trailer is off the ground, the jack is not on the ground, I'm on my sloped front lawn and we're accelerating towards the pond!!! Panic set in and I froze. Backing up would have transferred weight back and the tail would have touched back down. Continuing forward would have moved weight to the front and the jack would have dug in, but I just sat there doing nothing as I sped across the lawn :0. Eventually I regained my senses and hit reverse hard, stopping the trailer with the hitch sticking out about two feet over the pond and the jack in the water. At which point I just set the brake, got off the tractor and went inside.
I was late to my friends the next day. It was pretty tough getting the trailer back into position to hook up to the truck, what with the hitch 2' out over the pond. Needless to say, I no longer preload the trailer when it's not attached to the truck.
A little chilly to be going swimming methinks :D
Yikes. Yeah, sometimes shortcuts don't end up as such. Before I bought tractor I had never loaded something like that on a trailer. Luckily for me I saw videos of guys picking up the back of their truck while loading a tractor on the trailer without jackstands under the rear of the trailer. My tractor may not be heavy enough to pick up the back of my heavy truck, but I'm not going to find out.
it is always fun to watch someone jackknife a trailer from the seat of the equipment being loaded on the trailer. Once the rear wheels come off the ground, unless you are in 4wd park and parking brakes are ineffective. However if the truck had air brakes they might just work in the air? :)
I had an old Brick-layer friend who did that on a job site loading a 1044 LULL. When the truck came up, He jumped out and ran to the truck, Somehow got pinch between the truck and the trailer. Too bad. All he had to do was drive off and it would have stopped.
I dropped my phone into the dog's water dish. :o
It was just a cheap flip phone, but still a $100 mistake. Seemed to be ok that night, but next morning nothing.
Thecfarm try putting it in a bag of rice for the day. Some say not to do it, the circuits may still corrode etc but it has worked for me a few times! This phone took a swim in the creek but came back alive.
So this one is just wasteful and not damaging. Sadly, we only use our camper for 5 days this year in July. Usually we use it at thanksgiving and then bring it home and winterize it. Since we decided not to go this year, I went out to winterize it this weekend. That's when I realized that the refrigerator and water heater have been on since July. I wonder how much that cost in wasted electricity.
My something dumb took about 10 years...
Our house came with a "tree fort". It's just a raised, L shaped platform with a shed roof over a 4x8 section with a 4x4 open porch. I decided to upgrade it about 10 years ago for my son. We added a second floor that cantilevered out making about 7x8 and a 4x6 over the porch. Covered the walls inside and out with reclaimed plywood. The years have not been nice to it, time to come down.
For some reason, I used spiral framing nails, like from pallets and ring shank nails for the siding. Never again. Couldn't pull a single nail. Had to saws all the whole thing.
At least it didn't come apart with him in it. ;D
mudfamer, you have better luck them me with that trick.
Not the first time a phone of mine has got in the water. I almost had this phone for a year!!!
Never had luck with the rice.
But had to try to see if it works.
Wonder if putting a phone in a sack of grits would work... ??? ;D
It might work if it's a Southern Bell phone. :D
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Wonder if putting a phone in a sack of grits would work... ??? ;D
Yes, it might make the grits better. :D :D ;D
I have a bunch of silicone dessicant that I put electrical devices in when needed. Works great.
Would putting it into the microwave dry it out? :D
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Would putting it into the microwave dry it out? :D
Yeah, the sparks and lightning show inside the microwave will dry it out.
let the magic blue smoke out to :)
Unloading the truck after hunting today I decided I could carry everything in in one trip. Two full arms trying to open the door and dropped my 30-06, right on the scope. Yup, she's bent.
The worst thing is I'm always giving my significant other a hard time about being hard on her gun. She bent her scope slamming into the side of my truck in Maine 5 years ago(slipped on some ice) Then on our trip to Maine this year she dropped it and cracked the stock.
I'm going to have a hard time giving her a hard time now.
mh
I have a feeling you are about to eat some crow. :D
And not much venison
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Can't you just slightly bend the barrel to match the scope so that you can see and shoot around the tree that the deer just went behind?
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:D
Today I discovered that black PVC water line will remain on a barbed fitting under 50 PSI of well pressure for 3 to 3.5 hours without any clamps on it. ::)
Gee, what happens after 3.5 hours Jim? :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on November 24, 2023, 10:10:32 PM
Gee, what happens after 3.5 hours Jim? :D :D :D :D :D
At a guess he had tap water for 3 hours. At 3.5 he had a large puddle outside ?? :D
or an indoor swimming pool.
There are few things I hate in this world. Doing plumbing work is among the few.
Hope the subsequent puddle was outside.
Well, my turn, and this one might set a record for this thread. My dumb thing began 40 years ago, give or take a month or two. When I had my machine shop I worked on a larger projects with a couple of other shops. We each did the parts we were good at, and the machines we were building were assembled and painted in my shop because I have the space and a welder. In the process of that, I bought a pair of welding gloves to get all the tack welding done, then we had a certified guy come in and do a proper job. I scrawl4ed my company initials and logo on the gloves so they wouldn't get confused with the other guys.
Time went on, I closed that shop and didn't weld anymore and those gloves came into my new shop as the 'stove gloves' for my wood heat. Then they moved to the house stove, then up north where we are now for the house stove. Then I got new gloves for the house and moved them out to my new shop stove. As I said, 40 years of use and it put some wear on them. There are small holes in the right thumb and middle fingers.
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But for stove gloves they have been fine. Until....
Yesterday I was doing the overnight packing of the stove and as I got it filled up and it was already starting to take off I realized I had one log a bit too long and the door would not close and latch. It missed by 1/2" and I that long log was on the bottom so I had to unload half the stove, and as I said, it was already taking off and the long log already was charred, flaming, and glowing red on the bottom. No big deal with the gloves and all concrete floor and I didn't think twice about grabbing that log to pull it out and re-arrange. Which was about the same time I remembered about those holes in the fingers. This memory came into my mind right about the same time as the pain did.
Today I made a run the HF and picked up a 3 pack of welders gloves, I believe they are pretty much the exact same ones I bought 40 years ago (without the holes). 3 pairs should last me a lifetime and also get the grandson's a good deal into theirs.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on November 24, 2023, 10:10:32 PM
Gee, what happens after 3.5 hours Jim? :D :D :D :D :D
You get back to back calls that there is no water pressure.....Today I learned that it takes a whole lot longer for a 3/4 HP sump pump to remove misplaced well water than it does for a 5 HP well pump to place it after the 3.5 hour hold test has been completed.
Tom, I had the same two holes in my stove gloves. I finally threw them away two days ago after I burned my middle finger on the hot ash pan.
I was out doing errands today. Stopped at the saw shop to get a case of bar oil. Remembered I needed a new bar for one of my H 372s. So I gut that too. I get home get in the saw shop, look up, And there are 3 new bars hanging on a nail. Now I have 4. :D :D ::)
Meh, that's just preparedness.. :)
Two weeks before I did buy a role of chain and tools to make my own. I think lm set now for a while. :D
Well, this one was potentially life threatening. I have been working nights. the past few nights I wake up at 3 am and cannot go back to sleep until 7 am and I feel overwhelmingly tired. that has been my bedtime. also falling asleep and cannot keep my eyes open at 9 pm. So finally, I slept till 06:40 and woke up in a panic thinking it was Fryday and I had a 7 am meeting. nope it is Saturday. So happy I slept through the night but still sleepy, I decided to complete the transition to days and the little shitzoo dog (spelling may or may not have been in error) heard me up so started the bark to go outside. So, I went down to let the dogs out and thought, I better stay up, so went to get coffee. My Yeti is clean so I thought I would save that for later and use a Trappers rendezvous cup. most of the cups on the little shelf rack I had made, are my wife's cups. I used my FF cup yesterday. So, I plunked the cup in the spot on the Keurig and choose dunkin donut coffee. hit the settings and go. I went to let the dogs back in and give a treat. (that is the main reason the little dog wants to go out so early). When I returned the machine had way overfilled my cup. It fills to the top sometimes if I choose 10 ounces but does not overfill. We resisted getting one of these machines for years due to cost. We realized finally that I like stronger coffee than my wife, and we always throw out half the pot anyway. We are on our 4th machine as they do not last forever, and some are easier to use than others. This time it overfilled the cup and looked like a ton of coffee on the floor. This machine tells you when it is low on water, and has choices for temp, strength and volume of coffee. So, I thought "Crap" this new machine is already fouled up, and not dispensing the proper amount of coffee. So, i started to clean up. the coffee seemed weak as I thought it must of really worn out the grounds. I could see through the coffee to the bottom of the cup. I carefully lifted the cup as full as it could be and moved it to the sink to dump the coffee and start over. There was only a few CCs to dump. I had placed the cup upside down. the recess on the bottom held all the coffee it could hold, and the rest ran over onto the countertop, down the cabinet face and onto the concrete stamped floor. The same floor my wife complains about being so hard to clean, and that she just cleaned for the bunko party, and in a week, we have the ED party. I cleaned it up as best I could, but we will see what my wife says when she is up. She may kill me. :snowball:
I have been killed so many times, I have lost count. ;D
As least you put the cup in.
I made coffee once and forgot to put the pot into the coffee maker. :o
Well Doc, good luck! As we all know, a man can never clean as well as a woman, no matter how many times or how well we do it.
Quote:
"I'm a man, I can change, if I have to, I guess."
Holy cow Doc, that is funny! (sorry, too soon? ;D)
We use a farberware perk pot and set it up the night before and it goes off on a timer around 4:30am. My wife has taken this duty on for years and it gets to be such a routine you don't even pay attention to what your hands are doing most times. About one a year, she would forget to put the cover on the pot and I would get up in the morning and find coffee all over the counter and floor, everything within 3' had to be cleaned but he worst part is you have to make coffee first because there ain't none.
A few times she has forgotten to put coffees in the becket, which makes for a really thin cup of coffee. ;D Other times she has overfilled the water and the grounds will steep all night, making for pretty strong brew in the morning. Since She here knee injury I have been taking care of more of the kitchen chores and it has kind of stuck. Making coffee is one of those chores I get done right after dinner and I am finding the coffee is much more consistent each day.
You can mess with a lot of things, but messing with my coffee is a shooting offence. No coffee, no workie. ;D :D
I hope you survive the aftermath ands she just laughs hysterically then punishes you by sharing it with everyone she knows, loudly, over the phone, while you are in earshot. ;D
Quote from: thecfarm on December 02, 2023, 08:58:10 AM
I have been killed so many times, I have lost count. ;D
As least you put the cup in.
I made coffee once and forgot to put the pot into the coffee maker. :o
I have done the same thing!
:D You guys are not alone. I have been known to pour the water in and turn on the machine without putting the pot on. I have also neglected to put the coffee in the filter. ::)
I just stay dead, it saves her time...
I was going to say, maybe I should not make coffee till my eyes are open, but that is counterintuitive.! :o :o :o :)
I'm too young to drink coffee.
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 02, 2023, 03:20:07 PM
I just stay dead, it saves her time...
Now that there is funny. I don't care who you are!
My wife's morning schedule is about 20 mins ahead of mine. She starts with coffee, we have a kurig as well. I use it to heat my water for the Tea I start with. She takes some delight in watching me occasionally make cofftea with the spent cartridge left in the machine... ::)
Well, this story should be titled "something dumb happened to me."
Yesterday, I drove west some 4 hours to meet up with a timber framer and look at his just completed timber frame building.
About 1 mile from the site, I stopped to use the restroom in a gas station.
My phone died and wouldn't turn back on.
So, no GPS, no way to call him, as I didn't write down his phone number on any paper I brought with me.
I managed to find him by just trying to remember the way to his site, as I had been there once before.
We had a nice visit, and I was upset that I couldn't take any pictures of his frame to show you all.
After our lunch meeting, he helped me find a phone store (in the mall) some miles away on my way home.
So, off I went without any GPS to guide me.
I managed to find several "malls" on that road, but after driving around a while I found the Bass Pro shop that the store was supposed to be next too. I talked to a Bass pro shop service guy who was outside having a smoke. And he told me where the store was, where to park and enter the mall. Not far from where we were.
I had to get a new phone, as the tech there couldn't restart my old phone, either.
After a few minutes of setting up my accounts, I managed to get the GPS to turn on and find my way home.
I've been all morning trying to get all the "lost apps" re-installed on the new phone.
Not much fun at all.
Jim Rogers
So, there's a lot more to the story today.
After having this new phone plugged in at my desk for 4 hours the battery level never went up, down a few percent.
I traveled to the local spectrum store and had them plug it in with their charger cord. The batter level came up while I was there. She checked for "background" running apps to have them all shut off to not drain the battery.
They don't fix phones. They don't even take them in to send out to be fixed at any service center. She told me of a store nearby that fixes phones.
I went over there and come to find out that my old phone (which I thought was 100% full battery) was zero battery. She plugged it in, and it started charging. I told her the whole story about my old phone not turning on.
She checked my in-car phone wire, and said it was fine. However, the thing it plugs into, for using in a cigarette lighter port was junk. She sold me a new one with a lifetime warrantee.
My old phone is fine just the battery was dead, not the phone. She charged it up enough to transfer all my pictures to the new phone.
At my desk, I have changed the wire port to a different one and the new phone is charging now.
Jim Rogers
Technology is a wonderful thing.......when it works! :D
Just spent most of today with a buddy updating firmware for the router and extender. been resetting the router twice a day for a week.
Quote from: Jim_Rogers on December 06, 2023, 04:51:03 PMMy old phone is fine just the battery was dead, not the phone. She charged it up enough to transfer all my pictures to the new phone.
Probably a thing the phone designers haven't considered. If you stick your phone in your sawdust filled pants pocket, sawdust eventually ends up in the USB charging port. Then the plug doesn't go all the way in... Might be enough to beep the first time, then when you put the phone down it loses contact.
Luckily the little SIM eject tool that Samsung supply with the phone is fine enough to flick sawdust out of the port, and problem solved.
I need to replace my phone and it's moderately terrifying. Thinking about quitting Android and going I phone...
Quote from: Nebraska on December 06, 2023, 11:56:13 PM
I need to replace my phone and it's moderately terrifying. Thinking about quitting Android and going I phone...
If your Android phone is synced to a Google account (yeah I know - big brother etc) then the change over is simple. Get new phone, sign into your account again, and let it sync. All your pictures and contacts, and even apps appear again. But make sure those are backed up to Google before you get the new phone.
Changing the whole ecosystem is what would be scary. Swapping phones with Apple is the same, just your data is on Apple's server. To swap you have to learn a new phone phone system, AND get your data transferred.
My current phone is an older midrange Samsung. Lil was given it as a promotion when she bought a new High-end unit. That was OK, it was better then my old phone, so I grabbed it. I got it all set up and we set off on holiday. We got 4 hours down the road and it threw a fit, and wouldn't reboot. As we had stopped for lunch, we notice a Vodafone store nearby. Took the phone in, they confirmed it was faulty, and after a few minutes of faffing about, just gave us a new one. Popped my sim in it, and let it sync. All my info and pictures had come back.
I'm sure an Apple phone would act the same way, IF you were synced to an Apple account.
With a google based phone you can buy from any of the phone makers. With an i-phone you are hooked into a proprietary supplier, you are stuck with their decisions and they suck the money out of you. My daughter talks of this alot. She says they literally force you into purchasing new phones every 2-3 years.
I would suggest you do a deep dive into the i-phone and what their "policies" are.
Very often my 13 year old will ask if I put the cup under the keurig as my coffee is making. The reason he asks that is the number of times I have turned it on without putting the cup under there. Luckily for me the little tray underneath has been large enough to hold the coffee. I only make one normal sized cup of coffee. I imagine if I tried the larger size it would overfill the tray. That reminds me...I need to go make my coffee.
My kids are being scattered about with the winds of time. They are all on I phones. Kind of nice to see their face sometimes when they call... But yeah I get the nickle and dime stuff from Apple..
I like the life 360. when I wake up at 3 pm when working nights, and wonder where my family is, I can look at my phone.
Same here with Life 360, especially with a new driver. I can look to see where he is whenever I want. Of course, I feel sorry for him. When I was his age I was out driving all over South St Louis and my parents didnt have a clue.
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Probably a thing the phone designers haven't considered. If you stick your phone in your sawdust filled pants pocket, sawdust eventually ends up in the USB charging port. Then the plug doesn't go all the way in... Might be enough to beep the first time, then when you put the phone down it loses contact.
It's really worth it to invest in the OtterBox that comes with the beltclip (OtterBox Defender I think). I went through quite a few phones due to ruined charger ports and screens getting broken in my pocket before I started getting them. They have a piece of rubber that blocks things from getting in the charge port and when I the belt clip it's pretty well impossible to break the screen. The belt clip also stops pocket dialing which would always happen to me when I was sweating hard.
It's also worth buying a glass screen protector. My phone slide off the dash of my truck last week and landed, on the screen, right on the sharp corner of my metal inverter. Instead of shattering my screen it just broke the protector. When I got home I pulled it off, installed a new one and was good to go again 8) 8).... Definitely worth the 8$CAD for a 3 pack on amazon
I have an android phone. Dislike it but for the most part It does what I need it to. For my day job I have an I phone. If I could I would shoot it with my .45, then beat it senseless with my 16# post sledge, then drive over it with the tri axle truck I sometimes drive at work, then melt it into an unidentifiable black mass with a torch.
I flippin' hate it.
Friends don't let friends buy I phones.
But, that's just my opinion.
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I have several friends with I phones. Most them do not not how to work them but bought them because they are popular. When they ask how to do something I just shrug and say, 'Coudda had an Android'. They look at me sort of funny and keep poking buttons, mostly unsuccessfully.
Just got the new Motorola Edge+ 2023 so it would connect with my hearing aids. Not crazy about the curved edges on the phone but other than that works pretty good.
MattM, I had the same sawdust/dirt problem getting in the charging port. Tried a piece of duct tape for awhile as my case did not cover it. I'd take a toothpick, slice a small sliver off the end, then use that and an old toothbrush to clean around the port contacts. New case has a cover over the bottom and I use the wireless charger. Don't go poking a dental pick in there, might short or damage the pins.
TroyC I always used the toothpick end of a flosser to clean it. My problem with the charge ports wasn't the plugging up it. After a couple of years of cleaning my charge port daily it would wear out the contacts inside. Then I'd have to haul the phone apart to replace the port, which is a major pain.
Now I just always have my phone in the OtterBox defender, it protects it of I drop it. Stops it from getting smashed in my pocket when I'm leaning against equipment, stopss dirt getting in the port and stops the pocket dials 8) . if you get a brand new model phone they're pretty pricey but I always get a phone that's a few years old. The otterboxes for those only ever cost about 20$
I'm the odd man out, I've had IPhones since 2009 or 2010. They've been fine for me.
I switched from Android to IPhone because I was responsible at work for developing a compliance audit system for the state. My employer provided IPads to my staff to implement the project. They were very reliable for our project.
Switching my personal phone to an IPhone was intuitive after using the IPad.
I do tend to keep a relatively current phone, I don't much like nursing one along.
We had a sears riding lawnmower repaired a few weeks a go. My brother in-law met me half way at my grand daughters B-day party so I could bring it north to my place. I had my ramps and drove it up the ramp , it got hung up, so I goosed it, yep...ramps slid out from underneath, down I go still sitting in the seat, my life flashing past me and me thinking don't fall over on me, it didn't, the trailer hitch dug into the ground, it hung up straight in the air and I was able to roll over out of the way. A big scrape on my arm is all. We then go into the party and get the young guys to load it for us old timers. Oh yeah this all took place in the dark in a snow storm....
Those things hurt more than they used to and cold doesn't make it feel any better. At least there was a party afterwards!
I have been known to do that! Fortunately nothing hurt but my pride and a skinned elbow but it could have been a lot worse.
Part three.
Apparently, all cord and phone makers are moving to style "C" for the wire and port on phones. I think it is the fastest charging. Anyhow, I took my block/brick and my desk wire back to CPR (cell phone repair) and they inspected it. The wire had broken or missing pins in one of the ends. This reduces the amount of "juice" it will allow through.
So, I bought a new wire from them. And they suggested I get a new "Style C" block as well so that the wire, phone, and block, are all the same. And will charge the phone as fast as possible. Both wire and block have a lifetime warrantee/guarantee.
Later on, today, while waiting for another of my appointments, I was charging my old A12 phone, in the car. I turned on google maps GPS and entered "home" and it worked even without there being any service provider for phone calls.
I was surprised about that. But if that works then this should be a good back up GPS system for my trips.
Jim Rogers
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 07, 2023, 01:00:59 PMI'm the odd man out
You are not the only "odd man out". When I had to upgrade from a flip my family told me that if I opted for anything else I was on my own, but they could/would help me with an iphone. I also switched from a PC to a MacBook so pictures, texts, emails, etc. are all seamless between the two. It is super simple.
It is like husky and Stihl. My wife had to have a Samsung, so she and my son jumped ship. now she is back to I phone but curses it because it is stupid, and not like her Samsung. I just want to not be changing every couple years. I have too much stuff I need every day. now my wife's stuff links up and messes with my phone. I get all her pics and she gets copies of some of my text. To escribe and now to get on the hospital site, I have to have Imprivata to do the secondary level of security.
PatD and I have never had any problem with our iPhones linking. We can easily "Air Drop" pictures to each other but the receiving iPhone has to approve and accept the picture.
There is no sharing, etc. of texts, but we can copy and paste text contents to each other.
Neither of us can see what the other does.
yes, my wife called and asked me my apple ID, and it confused our phones. it is a mess and our fault. It was fine when we all had the same phones. after a switch and switch back, it messed things up, and we have made new IDs. our phones work great, if you know how to use them. Georgia forgot. :)
@nebraska I have a Kyocera Duraforce Pro II Android phone. It's mill spec, water proof, shock proof, and a lot cheaper than any I phone. This is the third one I have had of the same model because the other two lasted three years each. I don't use an Otterbox, just a screen protector and you know what it goes through on a daily basis. The first phone screen wore out - did not break - it wore out. The second one just started to act glitchy and the battery life had dropped off so it was time. These will charge with a wireless charger or a plug in. There are a lot worst things than sawdust that can get packed into a phone charger port.
When I first got the first one I jumped out of the skidder and the phone plopped into a nasty mud puddle, rather than getting upset I leisurely grabbed the phone, walked over to a clean puddle and proceeded to rinse the phone off. Yea - that fits my lifestyle.
There are certainly "heavy duty" phones available. Just they are a bit more "chonky", and not as slim and sexy as the I-phones, or as cheap as regular Android models.
https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/
It's like comparing my current Samsung phone to the "Rugged Handheld Terminal" that we use on the Post run. It's basically an Android smart-phone, without the phone part, and with a laser scanner added. I don't even know who makes it, it's got some generic "made in China" and a serial number. But it's got a sturdy plastic case, a bezel that is slightly taller than the screen, so a drop will usually mean the plastic part hits the ground first, and rubber covers over the charge and headphone ports. I don't know what it's waterproof rating is, but it appears "rain resistant" at least.
But it's sure as heck not "sexy" :D
The Android vs Apple debate is a black hole. Neither is inherently better, and it comes down to personal preference and what you are used to. I've always used Android, and when I pick up an I-phone it takes a minute to find may way around it. Not that the user interface is "bad", just different to what I know. Which is why I said that swapping whole systems is more of drama than just upgrading to the next model of what you have and already know. Android doe's have more options because there are dozens of manufactures, targeting more price points and special use cases.
Apple don't make a device like this, but I can certainly see the use case for it. Mum is over 80, "technology challenged", but has recently learned to use a smartphone as things like paying bills and banking has gone more online.
But as a basic communication device there are things like this.
Big Button Flip Mobile Phone with SOS Button (Black) (https://www.bigbuttons.co.nz/mobile-phones/big-button-mobile-phone-4g-flip-black-nz.html)
I don't know about the phone being chunky. Last time I got this one they tried to get me to upgrade to the newest model of the same line, problem was for me it's too dang small. My version is smaller than my wifes Samsung Galaxy S21. The reviews beat it up saying it's slow, or has a bad camera but there is nothing that I wait for when using it and every picture I post on here has been taken with it. Worst thing is that I usually have to wipe the camera lens off due to the presence of things folks don't want to know about. :D
I use android because that's what I started with and when people ask which they should get when looking at a new phone, I tell them" get what you are used to, I hear nothing but complaints from people who switch from one top the other." They are about even in performance with strengths in different areas balancing them out but the OS works a bit differently from one to the other. If you aren't ready to enter the learning curve for a new OS, don't switch.
The short version of this is" Whatever floats your boat" smiley_blue_bounce
I had a Kyocera Brigadier mill spec phone 2 phones ago. As my phone was on the offices plan and the store is a local small-town Verizon franchise. I couldn't easily move on with Kyocera it was a special order. My phone had fell out of the pocket and taken a crash and the display croaked. Of course I really can't be with out the phone on call unless I want to sleep at the clinic on the Xray table or the dog food bags, neither is really good... So I went Motorola, it had a short life ended by a sharp rock. So I went to this Samsung 5 years ago. It's been very good. I put a reasonable case on it and replaced a few screen protectors. My only issue with it is battery life is starting to fade. Kinda like a few of my Milwaukee 18 volt ones they don't last forever. I Iiked the "friends don't let friends buy I phones quip."
I figured "I'm a man and I can change if I have to.... I guess."
If it's an utter disaster you will know....I need to replace my tablet as well and it will probably be an I pad if this works out. I'm having a bit of a struggle today getting pages to load, don't know if it's Verizon or on the server end.
I have the iPhone and just recently I tried to post here and somewhere else with photos, not it seems my iPhone is saving pictures as something the FF does not recognize and other places as to large a size. I bet I could shuffle around and find out how to change it but, I get is frustrated at updates that change what I was used too.
I think your pic needs to be in your gallery before you can post it in a thread!
I post all my pics to the gallery from my phone and put them in threads from the computer.
I have had photos that wouldn't upload because the image file name wasn't read as a JPG/JPEG, once changed it went through.
I have an "Image Resizer" and a "JPEG" converter app on my iPhone. I resize all of my pictures before I upload them to my MacBook. Any screenshots have to be converted to JPEG.
so let me know what you think. I was meaning to rotate the 4-sided carbides as the new to me jointer seemed hard to push hardwood across. so, I was working on bench seat to flatten a side, and then run though the planer. the guard would not let me push through easily. I do not have a pic of my hands, but... they are fine. I tried to rotate the guard out of the way with the jointer running, and when I loosened the hand nut/bolt, it dropped down and I saw aluminum being milled. still cuts cedar and pine OK, but now it is time to rotate the carbides for sure. should have a little more clearance now.
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oops wrong photo.
:D :o 8) :) :snowball: ;)
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I'm having flashbacks to 2 years ago.
That can't be good. You better go see your doctor, oh yeah - you already did. ::)
Any broken bones? How many stitches?
I don't mean to hurt your feelings but your credibility is going to suffer in the ER for the next few weeks.
:o :o
Just talked to Doc, that's not his hand. it was supposed to be a joke, but maybe not clear, at least not to me. That's an older photo of another hand.
Thank goodness for Doc! Glad he's fine, well normal...his usual self.
The humor was not clear if not gratuitously graphic !
I started using a chest holster for my cell phone. The final straw was finding it after I drug a turn of logs over it with the skidder. I've also found the dewalt collar blue tooth doubles as earplugs and they don't pop out and get lost. I'm able to talk to the skidder operator when pulling trees through them with a bark box on a 500i.
At first glance of the picture in reply 4150 I thought it should have been in Doc's thread "I gave blood!".
GAB
well just got home from seeing Adam Sandler. It was actually a good show but for the potty mouth stuff. he had about 5 of his buddy's that are in his movies and was a good time. Tom texted to see how I was doing, and I told him fine. Remember a month ago when my tree service guy that milled the burl had his son get hurt... that is why I said, "oops wrong pic". It is not me. I did something dumb, but not that bad. sorry. :) I just dulled some already dull carbides and trim some excess aluminum from the guard.
oops wrong photo.
:D :o 8) :) :snowball: ;)
see! thanks for your concern and sorry to worry all my friends. :)
Doc, glad your okay 8), but my stomach is still turning and my oatmeal does not taste so good.
Doctor humour....it's the worst. ;D
It has taken me a while to come to terms with this malfeasance whereby a fake photo or should I say a misrepresentation of ownership of said photo was posted on this thread. To say the least my faith in humanity has been sorely tested. I am struggling with this issue and grasping for straws to allow me to forgive such a grave illusion. The people we should be able to have absolute trust and confidence in are our family, friends, law enforcement and our medical providers and when one of them misleads us it just makes it that much harder to accept and understand.
To post such a photo this close to the holidays will probably result in permanent damage to my faith in all that is supposed to good and honest in my fellow man. I just pray that with counselling the nightmares will cease and that over time I can overcome this abuse. Yes, the wound may heal - but there will be a scar.
Very dry Doc. Very dry.
Howard, do you need a hug? ;D
You see enough of this stuff and it can tend to get a little routine. Medical folks can tend to have a slightly darker sense of humor as do firefighters and LEOs. We all sometimes forget that the layman might not take it quite the way intended.
I recall being at a bad accident scene in the wee hours one time and one of our Firefighters walked up to 3 LEOs who were standing around and said "Hey, if you fellas don't mind, could you give us a some help trying to find this fella's hand? We'd really like to send it to the hospital with him, y'know?"
(Yes, the patient got his hand back eventually and a little worse for the wear.)
If we don't learn to deal with these things one way, they can creep up on you in other ways, so a sense of humor helps quite a bit.
Did you know that the sparks that happen when you hit your middle log stop show up really well when it's dark.. just brushed the very tip knocked the set out of the blade and that was that ... The timberking B 16 log stops are independently adjustable and I was just a tiny bit off.
Howard
I think Walmart has a rollback on crying towels now! ;D
In reference to re[ly 4161:
Oh YE of little faith.
GAB
I think it's been a long time since my last 'dumb thing' and this one is quite small and common, but there was pain involved, even if no photos.
Last night I went out at my usual 9:30pm stove feeding time in the shop and was pretty tired and working on autopilot. The stove was low and just some coals in there so I threw a few thin splits in first to liven things up. Well I had a piece in my left hand and shoved it into the stove opening hard enough to make it reach the back without putting my hand all the way in (no glove on the left hand), but I wasn't watching my left hand, I was already grabbing for another piece with my right hand. Well, I missed the opening and the end of the split hit the face of the stove, stopping dead. My hand did not stop dead and I shoved a splinter deep into my index finger to the point I nearly saw stars. Holy cow, this one really hurt. I get a lot of splinters, nearly every day, but this one got my attention in a very real way.
I was trying to 'just not use that finger' until I had the stove loaded, so I could pull the splinter in the house at my desk, with glasses and a loop. But the pain on this one was 'somewhat demanding of attention'.
Well my glasses were in the house, but I got my workbench tweezers and without using magnification assistance I felt around for it and tried to pull it out 3 or 4 times, but the tweezers kept pulling off. Finally I grabbed a loop and took a look, because I assumed I was grabbing a piece of skin instead of the splinter and slipping off of that. [surprise twist here] I was wrong. There was no little flap of skin, in fact the splinter did not enter as most do, along and under the skin. This splinter went straight in and headed for the bone in my finger. The reason I couldn't pull it out and kept slipping off is because it was driven in like a ring nail and would not let go.
So I choked up on the tweezers and got a good grip and slipped a few more times trying to pull it out all the while increasing the level of 'stimulation' I got from the pain. Finally I really bore down on those tweezers and pulled it out. It was only about 5/16 long but it felt like 3 inches coming out. Man did that hurt.
24 hours later and that thing is still sore but healing up fine. Also, 24 hours later I am still not wearing a glove on my left hand when I fill the stove. Guess you could say I am 'doing something dumb today', and everyday. I usually don't mind splinters, part of life, but DanG this one HURT!
BTW, it was red maple, air dried 1.5 years in case you are taking notes..
:o ouch!
Nebraska, I wouldn't know about making sparks, because I never hit my log stops. :D
Tom, that hurts. Last weekend I was rooting around in my backpack that I take everywhere looking for a phone charger. Reaching all the way down to the bottom where scary things live I felt terrible pain in my thumb and pulled my hand out. There was a sewing needed impaled in my thumb about 1/4" straight in. I pulled it out of course. That hurt for a couple days. I guess at one time I had thrown a little sewing kit in there and the needle fell out.
Ugh! Splinters! That's got to hurt! The needle story made me wince! Ouch!
Seems like I get at least one bad splinter every winter from working firewood or loading the stove. I'm officially jinxed - will likely get one today.
Last year I got four or five in the fleshy part of my index finger on my left hand. All but one came out fairly easily. It took three weeks before it worked out enough to pull out with tweezers. The relief was immediate! It was 4' long and 3/4" in diameter or it seemed like it. It really was about 1/8" and hurt the whole time.
I was bringing an armload into the shop though the 3-foot door and had to twist at the door and walked my 4-mph gait. when the end of a chunk of wood caught the door jam, and wow stop my chest! did not hurt later like I thought it might, so the rib sprung back and did not break!
Sorry about the pain, Tom, but I really like your quoted comments "'somewhat demanding of attention'" and "'stimulation'", interesting way to describe it.
Yesterday, we, my daughter and I went to walmart to buy some Christmas gifts for my wife.
One of the other items we wanted to get some some chair leg protectors to put on the bottom of one of the new chairs we just got.
I knew that they most likely would be in the hardware section.
After entering the store, i got one of those motorized shopping carts so i didn't have to walk so much. This getting old in not much fun these days.
With my daughter following me, we headed to the back of the store to the hardware section.
We went down one hardware aisle but didn't see any chair leg protectors.
Turned right and headed down the back aisle looking for aisle signs and any other info trying to find that section.
As we passed the end of the extension cord aisle there was a Walmart worker there helping a lady find an extension cord.
I noticed his name tag "Jimmy".
After he had finished with her in the aisle to my right, I said: "Jimmy, can you help us find the chair leg protector section/display?"
He looked at me kind of puzzled and said: "isn't that it right there?" pointing directly to my left.
I had stopped exactly where they were. I could have reached out and touched them if I had only looked left.
I felt very dumb.
We found some that we thought may work.
We motored on.....
Jim Rogers
I have had an employee take me back to an item I walked right by 3 times.
A buddy of mines' son is a manager at a Wal Mart, he has had many interesting customer stories from the years he's worked there. Once he was in the sporting goods department and someone asked where to find the left handed baseball bats. He told them they'd find them right next to the dehydrated water. :)
I walked around the area by my mill today for about a minute looking for my tape measure. I found it in my hand.
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Only one Minute?
That would be way less than normal around here!
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This time of year my tapes hide in my pockets. Tuesday I went to the truck to get a tape because I couldn't find one in the shop. That's when I realized I had the two from the shop in my pocket and the third one didn't fit. ::)
I don't know how many times I looked for my hat while I was wearing it.
"Honey, have you seen my hat?"
"Yes, it's on top of your head" ::)
"oh"
Quote from: SawyerTed on December 21, 2023, 06:10:22 AM
This time of year my tapes hide in my pockets. Tuesday I went to the truck to get a tape because I couldn't find one in the shop. That's when I realized I had the two from the shop in my pocket and the third one didn't fit. ::)
Ted:
Sorry to hear about your fidn't dit situation.
GAB
Well I feel better now after seeing the last couple posts. I thought I was the only one that ever did those kinds of things.
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) Thanks for the laugh :D
When the tow strap you lost decides to reappear and wrap itself around a cultivator point, all without alerting you to its reappearance .
Then it makes its presence known by getting run over by the rear tire. Said tow strap stopped the tractor from going forward.
Operator took a moment to determine the malfunction. :D
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For a long time it seemed as is I not only did not have a tape measure handy when I should have, but that I also couldn't even find one easily. So I started buying tapes when I saw a decent one at a decent price, and never the same kind, but sometimes buying a two-fer deal. Then one day I bought a small Milwaukee 6' tape that fit easily in a pocket. I liked it but at $7.00 or so per, I didn't want to buy a bunch of them. Then HF started selling basically the same small 6' tape for 3 bucks or so. Each time I was in the store I bought one until I had enough to have one on almost every bench and major machine in the shop so one is always within reach, and that Milwaukee hangs on my back pocket belt loop, unnoticed until needed. I usually don't even unhook it, just pull out the tape, measure a board thickness or what ever and let it go.
But now I am finding that those little HF ones are bunching up at one end of the shop and I will find 3 by the table saw and none over by the finishing bench. I think they have little nocturnal legs. ;D
Last week I spent 3 minutes looking for where I had JUST laid down my safety glasses, not only were they on my head, but they were over my eyes too. Now, that ain't right. :D
Ted I feel for ya on things we don't notice until they bite us. An hour ago I was at the mill and I never leave the loading arms up unless I am actively cutting and sliding slabs onto them. Bill has a habit of always leaving the loading arms up about 4-6" off the ground so that when he bring in logs and rolls them onto the deck, they don't roll up on the arms and allow to stack to jam up tight. Well today I forgot to lower them and I was at the far end of the bed, turned to walk back to the head and whacked my shin right into the point on the loading arm. Now I have a new hole to nurse in my leg, but those stars were sure pretty for a little while. :D ;D
Guess I have a ways to go until I measure up to you guys. Bah dum dum shing!
Yes Rusti, that is the "rule"! ba dup chssss.
I'm trying to figure out how to add a block heater to my backhoe so it'll start when it gets good and cold out. Yesterday I finally remembered to take it out of the barn and into the sun so I could take a few pictures of the engine so I could ask for assistance in where the block heater would go (I'm still confused). Well, I reversed the backhoe out of the barn into the sun, yanked up the parking brake and raised the loader, so I could see the engine better. I even remembered the safety stop so the loader could crash down on top of me! I then went to the passenger side and pulled off the engine cover, to see the throttle linkage or whatever it's called that you can rev the engine with at the engine. The engine was a little cold and I goosed it a bit and I noticed the machine lurch a little, hmm, that's weird. Oh crud! It's still in reverse! I went around and sure enough. The parking brake did its job.
Luckily, I was standing in front of the front tire, so it wouldn't have easily run me over, but also luckily I didn't put it in forward gear, that could have gotten bad quickly.
Uh, I got lucky.
After skinning our deer I brought the skinning plyers (the ones a foot long with a block with teeth in them) to clean them for next year STILL LOOKING
Quote from: rusticretreater on December 21, 2023, 01:05:05 PM
Guess I have a ways to go until I measure up to you guys. Bah dum dum shing!
Some of us have gone to great
lengths to get to this
scale of dumb! :D :D
Indeed Ted, our efforts are truly immeasurable.
Did the tape measure thing the other day only with my ear muffs. Stood there looking all around for them @Wudman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=624) was standing 2' away from me watching me mumble and fumble, found them on my left wrist.... Turns out the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. :D
My turn again. Only this time I saved up for it.
A while back I had to rebuild the engine in my bx25 kubota when I lost a rod bearing. Yesterday, it would not start a few minutes after I used it. I noticed that sometimes I had power when I turned the key and other times I didn't. Opened the hood and wiggled some wires and power was restored. So I'm thinking that a got a wiring problem.
Checking things, I found power at the starter and could hear and feel the solenoid move, but the bendix didn't extend and make the motor engage the flywheel. Now I'm a guy who will take the starter apart and take a peek inside. Especially when a big $$ part is involved. I find nothing wrong. I cleaned the contacts off.
I put it back on. While I was putting it back on I noticed that another wire that connects on the same terminal the battery cable attaches too had gotten pulled back inside the boot that covers the connection. I had missed putting it back on during the engine rebuild. It had worked all this time until it finally gotten vibrated out of contact with the terminal. Still would not start. I jumped the starter directly to see if the motor was good. The solenoid would work, but still the bendix would not extend. In frustration, I jumpered it a bunch of times in succession. Suddenly the solenoid fully extended the bendix and the engine started. YAY!
I hopped on the kubota and revved it a bit, moved the bucket up and then down, crushing the plastic wrap around cowl for the engine. Its made of horrible brittle plastic, but hey, it was kinda in one piece. Now my engine has great flow through air cooling. I think a replacement one is $300 or so.
Thanks for reading!
well, I wish our comments were retractable, and I am glad they are not on tape!
Washington's Dream - SNL - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk)
I just read the last 2 pages of this and am now almost out of time to read my paper. Thats my contribution for today. :D
This is much more entertaining (and useful) than any "news" in the paper
On the tape measure thing, I know I have at least 6, I still walk around looking for the one I just used :-[
I have a shelf and rarely put them back. I leave one on each saw including the mill under cover. when I put them all back, I would measure them in linear feet but cannot find a tape. :) :) :)
We follow that comedian. he is clean and talks family, mostly makes fun of himself. His daughter often introduces him.
I clicked on the link for Washington's Dream - SNL and got this:
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"
Corporate Shareholder Earnings and Canadian Law are clashing - that's the Dumb thing in my day.
👎
The Canadian Ministry of Boughs and Leagues takes issue with the idea of Liberty, Justice and the rule of thumb.
Quote from: doc henderson on December 22, 2023, 10:11:39 AM
. . when I put them all back, I would measure them in linear feet but cannot find a tape. :) :) :)
That would be a problem now that "feet" have changed. The original measurement 'foot' was some European Royalty's appendage, and in Canada, we recently went from Queen Liz to King Chuck. The new coins show him as mostly a portrait of a nose with a set of ears. Not much room left over for the coin.
So, there may be some change in the
metric being used, not to put too fine a
decimal point on it.
Or you could simply use this:
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It is marked off in actual feet. One foot, two feet, and three feet as shown.
Oh boy... give them a centimeter and they take a kilometer. :D
It's not in metric so can't be imported. ::)
Quote from: Resonator on December 22, 2023, 02:10:44 PM
Oh boy... give them a centimeter and they take a kilometer. :D
Jeremy:
If you change centimeter to millimeter I think it would be more accurate.
GAB
Quote from: Andries on December 22, 2023, 12:27:02 PM
I clicked on the link for Washington's Dream - SNL and got this:
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"
Corporate Shareholder Earnings and Canadian Law are clashing - that's the Dumb thing in my day.
👎
Seriously!! ::)
MM, is that tape measure used at Woodmizer, Europe?
All the European WM mills are made in Poland and even my BMS250 comes from there.
Leetle baby metric feet - so interesting yet SO confusing.
Quote from: aigheadish on December 21, 2023, 03:14:23 PM
I'm trying to figure out how to add a block heater to my backhoe so it'll start when it gets good and cold out. Yesterday I finally remembered to take it out of the barn and into the sun so I could take a few pictures of the engine so I could ask for assistance in where the block heater would go (I'm still confused). Well, I reversed the backhoe out of the barn into the sun, yanked up the parking brake and raised the loader, so I could see the engine better. I even remembered the safety stop so the loader could crash down on top of me! I then went to the passenger side and pulled off the engine cover, to see the throttle linkage or whatever it's called that you can rev the engine with at the engine. The engine was a little cold and I goosed it a bit and I noticed the machine lurch a little, hmm, that's weird. Oh crud! It's still in reverse! I went around and sure enough. The parking brake did its job.
Luckily, I was standing in front of the front tire, so it wouldn't have easily run me over, but also luckily I didn't put it in forward gear, that could have gotten bad quickly.
Uh, I got lucky.
I have a saying when you get off the machine turn it off!
When I 1st got my bobcat it used to creep a few inches every minute, well one time I got off, went into the barn, got sidetracked came out about 20 mins later and no bobcat, I had jumped out for a second, no parking brake applied, found the bobcat stopped against a tree down beside of the barn.
Found my skinning plyers this afternoon cleaning ashes from the owb. Dumped a shovelful into the barrel and there they were. Must have set them on top of the burning paper in the kitchen and they got covered up.
I made a ruler for southside once but cannot find a pic.
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found it
Quote from: Nebraska on December 22, 2023, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: Andries on December 22, 2023, 12:27:02 PM
I clicked on the link for Washington's Dream - SNL and got this:
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"
Corporate Shareholder Earnings and Canadian Law are clashing - that's the Dumb thing in my day.
👎
Seriously!! ::)
I think it has to do with a distribution rights between NBC in US and Global TV in Canada, Global bought the rights to broadcast SNL in Canada so NBC is not suppose to.
I did find it here. https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/543852/SNL-Washingtons-Dream/ (https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/543852/SNL-Washingtons-Dream/)
Ok seemed odd. I guess its cross the border and a different set of agreements.
A network can sell Exclusive Rights rights to Broadcast in another country to a network there. If they do that, and then post it to a Free Internet Stream that's also available in that country, then it wasn't an exclusive deal any more.
In the US, they own the rights, so they can broadcast it live, AND then post it online next day for the extra views. But their "exclusive" deal with the Canadian Network is then worthless.
Common problem as streaming content becomes more common. Geographic areas become less of an issue. , expect where those content rights are concerned. And hence the rise of VPN services, where you relay your connection off a server in another country to hide your true location
This is not really about doing something dumb but to prevent me from doing something dumb.
OK sorta back story, PatD's TV is a 55" Sony flat screen which works really well. Now what I need is suggestions on a replacement that will change the channels when you punch the appropriate buttons on the phone. laugh_at smiley_dizzy smiley_roller
Is there an app for that? :D
Universal TV Remote Control - Apps on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codematics.universal.tv.remote.control&pli=1)
Surely you caught the dumb "tongue in cheek" where I was attempting to change the TV channel with the flipping house phone. smiley_dizzy ::)
Samsung Tv has something called "smart things". The app for the phone allows me to change the channel from my phone. It's not as convenient as the actual remote, but it can be done.
I did but thought maybe Ms. Pat did it so you were being subtle out of high regard, for Her. :)
The remote doesn't have "in ap purchases." :D
but the app is fun to mess with the kids :)
Quote from: Magicman on December 29, 2023, 02:23:45 PM
Surely you caught the dumb "tongue in cheek" where I was attempting to change the TV channel with the flipping house phone. smiley_dizzy ::)
:D :D
Lynn
We caught it but were not sure that you did.. :snowball: ;D ;D
Been too busy trying to change the channel. I pressed the volume button and got dial tone so I am making progress. :D
Quote from: Magicman on December 29, 2023, 02:23:45 PM
Surely you caught the dumb "tongue in cheek" where I was attempting to change the TV channel with the flipping house phone. smiley_dizzy ::)
:D
MM, you got me on that.
I was just about to reply that it wouldn't work around my house.
Grandma can keep up with the remote better than she can her phone.
I had an episode similar to that not long ago - I just can't remember what it was!
???
CC
Quote from: aigheadish on December 21, 2023, 03:14:23 PM
I'm trying to figure out how to add a block heater to my backhoe so it'll start when it gets good and cold out. Yesterday I finally remembered to take it out of the barn and into the sun so I could take a few pictures of the engine so I could ask for assistance in where the block heater would go (I'm still confused). Well, I reversed the backhoe out of the barn into the sun, yanked up the parking brake and raised the loader, so I could see the engine better. I even remembered the safety stop so the loader could crash down on top of me! I then went to the passenger side and pulled off the engine cover, to see the throttle linkage or whatever it's called that you can rev the engine with at the engine. The engine was a little cold and I goosed it a bit and I noticed the machine lurch a little, hmm, that's weird. Oh crud! It's still in reverse! I went around and sure enough. The parking brake did its job.
Luckily, I was standing in front of the front tire, so it wouldn't have easily run me over, but also luckily I didn't put it in forward gear, that could have gotten bad quickly.
Uh, I got lucky.
They make heaters that go in the radiator hose. Easier to install.
I use a magnetic one that sticks to the oil pan. We have one at the clinic to warm the hydraulic reservoir on the cattle chute. Can't be much easier than that.
I have had the heater hose (not rad hose) one and the magnetic one, I found they worked poorly even when left on all night with blanket over the hood. With the engine block one I have now will start like a summer day after 30 or 40 min.
When we got cable as a kid my uncle lived next door and got cable too, well back then everyone had the same remote. I would sit outside of his window while he watched TV and change the channel, turn the thing off, wait until he walked over to the TV and when he was 1' away turn it back on..... Ahh the good old days.
You were a very naughty child! :D
my turn with the cone hat.
I made a big mistake dropping a maple tree.
I cut the notch i bit small and it didn't want to fall over, when it did it put my Husquavarna 465 Rancher into it's grave.
The tree was a little bigger than I thought, probably 26". and it fell at a bit different angle than I thought it would.
I don't think there is any plastic that's not broken.
Sorry to hear that. :( :(
The saw taking a hit is always preferable to the guy running it gittin' wacked.
Agreed, Glad the saw took all the damage. I always try to lay the saw behind an off to the side of the back cut, but stuff happens and you can't always do that. Saws cost money but not blood costs a lot more and injuries can be forever. Just glad you are OK. I had an ash break the hinge and fall 90° off the intended direction, weirdest thing I ever saw, so I never assume and always get away.
Quote from: Hilltop366 on December 31, 2023, 07:17:53 PMI have had the heater hose (not rad hose) one and the magnetic one, I found they worked poorly even when left on all night with blanket over the hood
The rad hose type worked very well in Ft St John, BC in the middle of winters(temps down to -50 °C) but it has to be sized correctly. I know one guy had one of a JD tractor that would also melt the snow on his hood.
Note: Be care that the heat is turned on full in the cab or it will melt your rad hose.
I've bought the freeze plug style heater and I'm awaiting the motivation to install it. They are calling for snow and cold over the next week or two, so I'm hoping that motivation shows up today. Unfortunately, I need to drain the antifreeze and possibly remove a filter to get to the hole.
Quote from: Machinebuilder on January 07, 2024, 04:57:25 PM
my turn with the cone hat.
I made a big mistake dropping a maple tree.
I cut the notch i bit small and it didn't want to fall over, when it did it put my Husquavarna 465 Rancher into it's grave.
The tree was a little bigger than I thought, probably 26". and it fell at a bit different angle than I thought it would.
I don't think there is any plastic that's not broken.
Glad it was just a saw damaged.
While cutting a 24" diameter white oak log several years ago, the log decided to roll. As it did it pinched my Husky 455 Rancher. The log continued to roll, saw stuck in the kerf and I couldn't stop it. Bent bar, crushed the plastics, bent/broke the handle etc. The shop where I bought it put it back together with both new and used parts. Used it yesterday.
Maybe all is not lost.
Must be something about the Ranchers. I kept one on the skidder and got off to cut some limbs out of the skid trail. Set it down to wipe off the window. Got back in and ran it over then drug the logs over it too. The only thing salvageable was the bar nuts.
Quote from: Bert on January 09, 2024, 10:22:21 AM
Must be something about the Ranchers. I kept one on the skidder and got off to cut some limbs out of the skid trail. Set it down to wipe off the window. Got back in and ran it over then drug the logs over it too. The only thing salvageable was the bar nuts.
You have mastered the art of fast depreciation of equipment.
GAB
I did something like Bert did many years ago when I first bought my land and built my house, but the end result was not quote as bad.
I had an old Ferguson TO35 with a manure bucket, which was really too small to be useful for much but it's all I could afford at the time. I was out cutting firewood and had the bucket overloaded with fuel, oil, saw, etc and my Husqvarna 266 fell out of the bucket when I went over a rock or stump. I didn't notice and ran it over with both the tractor and the trailer I was towing. That was a really nice saw at the time and I really couldn't afford to replace it. Fortunately, the ground was soft and there was not as much plastic on those 80's saws so I got away with replacing the handle and living with some bad dents and scratches.
So that is what.....3 saws crushed in the last year or so. I ran over my new 461, a year or so ago, with my excavator.
Seems to be a lot of that going around. I myself have never had the urge.... ;D
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on January 09, 2024, 10:35:57 PM
Seems to be a lot of that going around. I myself have never had the urge.... ;D
I think Ted mentioned once that if you saw long enough, a tree, a log, or equipment will find your saw.
So I add to your post....................................Yet.
Quote from: Bindian on January 09, 2024, 11:16:19 PM
I think Ted mentioned once that if you saw long enough, a tree, a log, or equipment will find your saw.
So I add to your post....................................Yet.
Let me add " my dog ate my homework " story:
Back in the early summer I had unloaded my sawing equipment amongst various other tools and lumber stacks in the back end of my barn. In the back end of the barn. Where cows have never been and never will go.
Days or maybe weeks later I hear abnormal cattle bawling and try to find the cause.
The Lewis and Clark of the cow world had led an expedition into the back end of the barn and reorganized the world inside.
I'll not continue with random details but months later when I needed my MS251, I realized it was missing the throttle button/trigger.
Confused, I thought it was stuck in the upper position.
No...missing totally.
I then figured out that one of the bovines neatly stepped through the handle and broke the trigger. No other marks or scratches.
The saw actually just came back before Christmas. It took over two months to get the part in.
The world I live in...
CC
Y'all are good at making a person realize that they're not the only one destroying things.
Mine is hurt so bad it was almost completely buried.
When I picked it up it barely held together. I knew it was over.
My next trip to town I'll give the Coop more money for a new saw.
I took a better look at my stump, the too small of a notch is why it didn't want to fall.
the slightly angled back cut is why it didn't fall the direction I expected.
I wasn't able to get the saw out of the cut when it started to fall so I backed up and watched the carnage.
Nobody was hurt so it's all good
I did something kind of dumb yesterday, but we do our best to help people, especially when they are in distress. I happened to be on the phone with a 911 dispatcher yesterday about another matter when she said, "I think you guys are getting a call, hold on". She came back and said a very distraught woman was on the phone because there was a dead cat in her garage. Normally not something we do, but like I said, we do what we can. All of my units were at headquarters having their annual mask fit testing, so I just grabbed one guy and said come with me, we have a call to handle. I told him to bring a trash bag. When we got there and pulled up in front of the garage, there was a dead cat right at the front of the garage. It was looking right at us. The poor cat had tried to escape from the garage as the door was closing. It managed to stick its head out just as the door came down on its neck. It wasn't the ladys cat, but a stray which had come into her garage. I called a local veterinarian office and asked if they could help me in disposing of the cat. They said yes. I had my firefighter put the cat in the bag and we took it away. Now the lady was dressed all in black because she was a funeral director. She said she can handle all the dead humans, but not a dead animal. I guess you get used to one and not the other. No, we do not rescue cats from trees.
Machinebuilder, have you ever tried the boring/backcut method of falling. It can be useful, especially if the direction of fall is a little questionable.
Firefighter
If you decide to change your board name to Cat Coroner - I still have the rights to the "CC" signature.
;D
Quote from: Bindian on January 09, 2024, 10:30:16 PM
I ran over my new 461, a year or so ago, with my excavator.
Well at least you had the proper tool handy for a quick burial.
GAB
Bill, I don't see how you did something dumb. We don't do cat rescues either, but..... We were just clearing another job and got a call from dispatch on the radio (same thing as you), very distraught woman, cat was in the tree for nearly days days, apparently hur, etc. It was on our way back to the station anyway, so...
Turns out the old woman was a client of my son's lawn mowing business and when she saw him she knew he would 'fix it'. Well, he was young and needed ladder practice anyway, so we setup the 35' ladder and sent him on up. ;D Got the dang cat down, he was fine and took off. We told the lady not to tell anyone we had done that and left.
People problems were no problem for me, but animal rescues always broke me down if they were true rescues. I never did a animal 'recovery' job though.
I am kind of surprised you didn't call in PD for an investigation. Sure seems like suspicious circumstances and may not have been an accident. You never know. :D
Quote from: Bindian on January 09, 2024, 11:16:19 PM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on January 09, 2024, 10:35:57 PM
Seems to be a lot of that going around. I myself have never had the urge.... ;D
I think Ted mentioned once that if you saw long enough, a tree, a log, or equipment will find your saw.
So I add to your post....................................Yet.
Yeah, I might have doomed myself with that statement. But frankly, that's one of the benefits of this thread. I have read of so many of these incidents that I have become anal about where I set my saw down, with the exception of that situation where you find yourself saying "AW SHOOT!' and you drop the saw and run like heck. ;D But I haven't had one of those in a long time. Getting it pinched and having to leave it would be one of those scenarios. A lot of cutters might spend too much time trying to yank that saw out and get themselves really hurt, so this was a good call,
I believe on of the solutions to this cut would be to insert a wedge to hold the kerf open and not pinch the bar. Then watch the trunk and when it starts to shift, pull the bar out.
Jim Rogers
I'm glad I'm not the only one! Crushed my Husky 576xpw a few years back falling a big Pondo..miss read the tree and before I could get my saw out of the way it fell 90 degrees to my intended direction and the butt drove the saw into the ground. It was still running so I had to grab the tractor real quick and get the log off it. Shut the saw down and that's when the fun began. Case was cracked in 3 seperate places and the handle was sheared away too...in short I was quoted $1200 plus to rebuild it or $600+ just for the case plus other parts...
I bought a new 572XP and moved on...still ahve that saw hoping maybe someday to get a case for it and see if I can't rebuild it. Maybe make a hotrod...or just leave it in the box as a reminder to do a better job of reading the bloody tree! :o :( :D ;D
Doesn't help with the trees crushing a saw but it keeps me from running over a saw IF I remember to put the saw back.
These are plywood scabbards, basically scraps screwed together with space for the bar to slide in place. The 1974 Massey Ferguson 135 is my firewood cutting vehicle. The "carryall" mostly lives on the tractor. I imagine something like the scabbards could be put on almost any piece of equipment. A bungee could secure the saws if necessary.
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I have used the bore cut technique.
I've had to cut a few trees that are just too big for the saw and its a safer way to drop them.
the other place is a tree with a lot of lean, I had one barber chair on me, I really don't like leaners
Quote from: chickenchaser on January 10, 2024, 05:39:21 AMWhere cows have never been and never will go.
Are you joking? Those things will always find a way. One time someone left the milk room door open and in comes a HoJo - to the parlor, walks right past the stall area and proceeds into the milk room where she stands there. Can't go forward, can't turn around, and those things don't have reverse..... I am standing there looking at untold value in equipment and one very confused cow who probably thought she was helping with the whole efficiency thing since that's where the milk gets bottled anyway, and quickly trying to formulate a plan, all the while hoping some stupid chicken doesn't notice the door is wide open and tries to make a break for it to add to the chaos. :D
Quote from: GAB on January 10, 2024, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: Bindian on January 09, 2024, 10:30:16 PM
I ran over my new 461, a year or so ago, with my excavator.
Well at least you had the proper tool handy for a quick burial.
GAB
It's sitting in my shop waiting for a donor case and most everything else except the inside parts.
I haven't been to the office since Thursday (until about 3 hrs ago). 1:10 this afternoon I decided that since I had the bigger tractor running and my wife really needed to get to town, I would try once more to dig us out and open up the county road. I tried to go South only half a mile to a paved road that I saw some traffic on so it's open to the highway, but it has a cut that drifts really bad. I tried south but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I gave it up for the second time, so I went North it's a mile and a half to the highway and drifts about as bad as the stretch going South. Just not as deep but longer drafts and three bad spots by 2:30 I had broken through and headed towards the truck stop to get some number one fuel, I was down to a quarter of a tank. Called my wife and said the road was open and she could go and of I went.
Got to the pumps, the station was closed but I knew that already. Climbed down and reached in my pocket for my billfold. .... :-[ :-[ ::)
Luckily my wife hadn't left the house yet and brought it to me....
While I was traveling to the other end of the state, my wife took the recycling to the transfer station. Of course, it's a holiday and it's closed.
Before I left, I asked her, while you're out can you take a package to the post office for me? she said sure. So, after the transfer station, she drove over to the post office. It never dawned on her or me that the post office was closed also.
She was very upset that she didn't realize that if one is closed the other would be too.
I had completely forgot about it as well.
Jim Rogers
Ever since I retired I have to look at the calendar to know what day of the week it is, same for holidays.
With the schedule a firefighter has, I never know what day it is. I don't know when holidays are because I only get them off if when that's how the schedule falls for that year. I have showed up at the post office and other locations on holidays and was surprised it was a holiday.
It was the same when I was a cop and later a deputy sheriff. Work your shifts as they come, you always give more than you get.
Quote from: Old saw fixer on January 16, 2024, 12:09:13 PMEver since I retired I have to look at the calendar to know what day of the week it is, same for holidays.
Easy. Every day is Saturday except when its Sunday.
Well, here's a good one, and it's not me or anybody else I know. So today my son is driving between plowing cleanup jobs and he is on a residential road when he sees a hose laying in the snow on the side of the road. It's a red hose, about 1-1/2" with a distinctive purple/red spray pattern around the end of the hose in the road. He follows it up to a house where the end is connected to an oil fill pipe on the front of the house. Then he realizes he saw an oil truck pulled off the road 1/4 mile before he found the hose. He backed up and took a quick video. I can't figure out how to share a FB video that is part of a 'story' here, and besides it contains some profanity (he was a bit surprised).
Yeah, it's a pretty funny scene. Now I know these guys work a lot of hours during the cold months and all of the oil companies are having a hard time getting drivers and paying crazy money to bring them in from out of the area, but still, really? You forgot to reel in the hose? :D ;D :D ;D Wondering how it is that he drove a bit further down the road before he stopped. How much force did it take to part that hose? how did he not rip the pipe off the house? how did he not feel or hear it? Inquiring minds want to know. ;D
whoops.
driving to downtown st louis to deliver that desk the other day it had snowed an inch the night before. wrecks everywhere. sitting at a light a car rearended the car next to me. no one hurt. drove a little farther an flashing light had street shut down under I40 coming into downtown. i saw a city dumptruck with its bed raised under the bridge. when you get closer you realize its just bed wedged up under the bridge. the truck stopped about 100 feet down the road. whoops.
Quote from: Old saw fixer on January 17, 2024, 11:00:27 AM
It was the same when I was a cop and later a deputy sheriff. Work your shifts as they come, you always give more than you get.
Then there are the times you sign on and wonder why so many guys from the other section are signing on, maybe they are all going to court today, maybe there is a detail, wonder why they are all being assigned the calls.... umm, better check the day of the week, oh I am off today.... well I think I will just sort of drive around for a bit and then go home and maybe not sign off on the radio but call in instead.... or so I have been told happens.... :D
Man, we've been some smart folks for almost 3 weeks. Personally, its hard to do anything too dumb while spending most of your time sitting in a recliner. I've got about 3 more weeks of this, though soon I may go out to my shop and do some cleaning. I think I can do that without needing my left arm too much. I get this wrist brace off in about 10 days and then a little more freedom.
I could add the 14-15 ft long 20+ inch dia dead ash log I dragged off the hillside above the house for firewood if you need an entry. I used my JD 750 tractor, a snatch block and long 1/4" cable to pull it to a poplar tree at the edge of the woodline but when I freed it from the snatch block and pulled about 10' it started rolling on its own down the steep side hill slope, broke in the middle, one half stopped when it hit the pasture fence, the other half jumped the fence and stopped when it hit the uphill side of the well house. Does that count? :-\
It's not a competition Howard. :ssst:
I did post something last week, but it got lost in the DB Error debacle. I was kind of proud of myself for doing something smart for a change.
I was working on restoring an old set of sewing machine legs and had them all apart. I was going to clean up the screws and threads on my wire wheel and just as I hit the switch I thought "Hey, wire wheel, I really should have glasses on'. Well I had to do some searching to remember where I laid them down last and almost gave up, but I found them and put them on. By about the 4th crew I was zipping along when it caught and came flying up straight at my right eye. All I saw was an ever growing blur as it hit. I found the screw and continued on feeling VERY smart. :)
Of course, a few minutes later I moved over to the beartex wheel to polish up the heads a little. This time I slipped off the face of the wheel and as the head slid down the slide of the wheel, the top of my left thumb slid across the face of the wheel. Now I wasn't pushing very hard and as soon as it all slipped I began to withdraw, but it was enough to just remove the very top layer of dermal tissue along the top of my thumb for about 2". That made it really sensitive and it oozed some blood. Very sensitive for the next 3 days and stupid. I wound up wrapping it over the weekend just to prevent making contact with it.
But I haven't taken out a fence with a tree in quite a while. :scream:
It was nice to take a few weeks off from doing something stupid. Tom, yours was not nearly as bad as Howards! :tongue2: :tongue3: :usa: :) :coolsmiley: love the new emogies!
Every year I save walnuts off our tree int he yard with every intention of cracking them but usually forget. This year I rolled them to a pile, de-husked a bunch and while the grandkids were visiting one weekend we picked up about a 50 lb feed sack full of them. I leaned them against the fence intending to bring them inside.
I noticed the sack was getting smaller and there were suspicious holes in empty walnut hulls and I kept seeing morbidly obese red fox squirrels in the yard. This weekend the grandkids came to visit and I pointed to the empty sack and told my granddaughter "See where those mean old squirrels stole Grandpa's walnuts?" My soon to be 5 y/o granddaughter sagely replied "Well, you should have taken them inside."
Oh the pain of being chastized and corrected by a 4 y/o! :-\
Doc,
Au contraire! There was no blood involved with my log rolling so Tom wins this one hands down!
"hands down", I guess you are right and of course, no pun intended! :xyxnervous: ;) :)
Well I beg to differ. This is another area where your skills are far superior to mine Howard. :tongue3: Just based on the after effects alone. Mine is all done except for the scabs falling off. You on the other hand, have a fence still to repair and those logs to see get dragged home.
But as I keep trying to teach you, to no apparent avail, it's not a competition.
QuoteMan, we've been some smart folks for almost 3 weeks.
Keep in mind the Forum was off line for a while, so if something dumb happened in the woods and made a sound no one would have heard it. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on February 05, 2024, 11:33:09 AMon my wire wheel and just as I hit the switch I thought "Hey, wire wheel, I really should have glasses on
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Safety glasses will not help your arm when the wire wheel slings a bristle. Look and you will see that the bristle penetrated 5 times.
Today while I was outside working I put my earbuds in and searched through Pandora for something to listen to.
Well, Taylor Swift came up in some suggestions...I listened for about an hour.
I'm not in that demographic. I'm not a hater, her success speaks for itself. I'm just not in her target audience. I wish her well as I decided to tune in some John Prine , Guy Clark and later some classic rock.
So far, that's as dumb as it's been today.
New album drops 4/19 SawyerTed!
Spent all day felling and skidding. Not a dumb thing all day!!!!
Sometimes a body is just waiting to see what a half dozen phone poles really cost.
I knew I could count on you guys.
Tom,
FWIW - there are no fence repairs needed. The fence stopped the one log, the Well House stopped the other with no damage to it and the fence where the log jumped it just needed a metal T post bent back straight. I don't have or plan to get any more livestock for the pasture since the 34 y/o horse died a week before Christmas.
I will concede I have done my share of some pretty impressive dumb things (and have the scars and partially healed broken bones to prove it) many which involved messing with dangerous wildlife and such but I am still shuffling around.
Might as well share my dumb accident for today. Cutting some fairly large red oak logs into 22" lengths for firewood. Beautiful day,saw sharp and running good,dry flat ground. What could go wrong? Stuck a plastic wedge in kerf to keep from pinching bar and to keep chain out of dirt. Somehow chain hit wedge when finishing cut and threw wedge back which hit me in the mouth. The worst thing is a couple cuts before chain caught wedge and threw it about 20'. The reason I took a picture is that I couldn't see how bad my mouth was cut as I don't carry a mirror.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/68995/D7FE00A8-2A68-4B9D-98E1-6771A47BB9F6_adobe_express.jpeg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=352315)
Glad you're OK Bill, that could have gone very wrong. With all the top wedges I have placed as you did I never even considered that happening and now looking at your post I am wondering why I didn't realize that. Could have hit your eye, or nose, or broke a tooth. Teeth don't hold up well to solid object striking them. I broke a front tooth in half when I got hit it the mouth with a carabiner swinging at the end of a rope during a rescue operation. Doesn't take much. Had it hit me in the cheek I don't think I would have even noticed.
It appears that your good looks are undamaged.
You would think it would throw wedge away from you being that at top of bar chain is going away but it didn't happen that way. Can't get much uglier but it sure did hurt.
yes, that is freaky, but who knows. I think you need a stitch just to pull the gap in your mustache back together. :coolsmiley: :)
I'd ignore that last reply Bill, Doc is jus trying to run up the bill. :sneaky: It will buff out just fine on it's own.
:snowball: :tongue3: :) :usa: smiley_beertoast
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Ouch!!
With my luck, the wedge would have hit my glasses.
Stopped to check a cow at a cattle operation owned by two young men. She was due to be calving acting funny but nothing had progressed. So to escape the mud outside I changed boots and coveralls in their warm room in the calving barn. We got her in and she had a twisted uterus and couldn't deliver the calf. So off to the clinic we went to set up for a C-section. The cow soon to follow in the stock trailer. She had developed a very friendly attitude by the time she got to the office. She put several of us up the fence getting her to the chute, where she finally got some happy cow juice. We got the surgery done, successfully, then got the cow (the drugs were pretty well worn off and she was fast again) loaded up and headed home. I started cleaning up and went into the clinic to change and go home. I was soaked with various cow residue down into my rubber boots. I stripped off and as I took my boots off I realized my leather work boots were 15 miles away in the boy's calving barn. :thinking:
I guess I was a little more focused on solving her problem than retrieving my stuff.
Nebraska, I will not ask what you wore to get home. scrubs at the office? I always have a new pair of sketchers on the shelf in my closet for when they (the old ones) get ruined at work.
Bill be glad it was not the 500i. from what I hear tell, it could of flown out the way you would think but fly clear around the world and hit you in the back of the head! zzzz_smiley smiley_smug01
Given your recent weather conditions I don't expect that you could get away with wearing shoe covers. :wink_2:
One shop I worked in where I also did the major machine maintenance, I kept a full spare set of older clothes in my desk, including underwear. Came in handy when I would have a hydraulic blow out while in a bad spot under a machine.
I do recall coming home from one 3am rescue call 'scantily dressed' in what ever odds and ends I could find in the equipment closet, everything else I had went in a red bag. After that I kept backup clothes under the seat in my truck.
Quote from: Wlmedley on February 06, 2024, 09:37:21 PMYou would think it would throw wedge away from you being that at top of bar chain is going away but it didn't happen that way. Can't get much uglier but it sure did hurt.
That is odd, maybe it bounced off of something or the pressure of the closing log spit it out in your direction after the saw chain tilted it towards you?
I do have a friend that got hit in the lower lip with a piece of wood while cutting up some branch wood. He ended up with a 1 1/2" long cut that required stitches in his lower lip.
Bill, that is a freak thing. Thanks for showing us all what can happen.
Nebraska, at least your shoes were warm and dry.
inside the lip usually heals without stitches. if it crossed the vermilion border, we suture the whiter skin (compared to the red) and make sure the line is strait. otherwise, people will look at your crooked lip and not look you in the eyes. might be good if you are a politician. easier to talk out of the side of your mouth among other places. :coolsmiley: ;) :)
Not up to my usual standards of dumbness and let's be clear no injuries or cost to repair anything. Just wasted a little time and tractor fuel.
I was trying to do something smart and decided to drag a big (25" SED X 25' long) poplar log off a steep hillside to be more accessible for future use before we get more snow or rain and the trail up through the woods becomes impassable or more dangerous than usual for a steep WV hillside. I hooked a cable to the log and hooked it to the drawbar on my little JD 750 tractor. I pulled and it slid about 20' then dug into the dirt and stopped. When I tried to free it the cable slipped over the end and there was not enough ground clearance to get it back under and around it.
I have a commitment tomorrow morning and for all day Friday and the weekend with possible rain coming Friday and Saturday so I will try again tomorrow afternoon while the ground is somewhat dry. I need to take a chainsaw up and round off the corner of the log to help reduce the likelihood it will dig into the ground. I'll also Bibby off some flare at the butt end to reduce drag there too.
Howard I am having a hard time believing that a guy as savvy and experienced as you got whooped by a log that was only 25 inches long. There has to be more to this story.
Howard,
I thought you had a log arch? Do Y'all ever hook the loader bucket to the log and lift the end of the log off of the ground and back up?
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on February 07, 2024, 10:34:39 PMHoward I am having a hard time believing that a guy as savvy and experienced as you got whooped by a log that was only 25 inches long. There has to be more to this story.
In his defense, it is 25 feet wide.
If Howards place is anything like mine you're lucky if you can walk up the hillside to hook a cable to most logs lots less drive a tractor up to them and a larger tractor won't fit on narrow benches.
I just wore the jeans that were under the my bibs, it was the front side that was trashed. I have driven home on backroads in my boxers before, having used the backup clothes I carry previously. That's fine after dark but I did meet the guy driving the grader for the township one day about noon....! :Wow:
I had a late night or early morning call and ended up trashing my coveralls grabbed the spare set from behind the seat to get home. Early morning calving call and I fell out of bed without thinking about replacing clothes in the truck. Long dead calf huge mess came out in parts which required a milk house shower after. Walked to truck for clothes behind seat, oops. Only a pair of white long johns with about 20 holes in them. Oh well I can stop home before the next call. Driving down the road and left the porta vet latch undone and it pops open. Pull over and hop out in tall rubber boots and mangy long underwear, no shirt. Its about 5 below and windy. Latching box and a car comes over the hill. A bunch of older ladies that I know. They slow down and all three heads turn and stare as they go by at about 5 miles an hour. Mouths hanging open. One of them still reminds me when I see her and that was the mid 90s. Thanks for the reminder Nebraska. :)
All that was missin' twar the moonshine!
Funny how inhibitions and modesty vaporize when one is covered is covered in unpleasant stuff like slime, guts, feces, blood, or worse. :coolsmiley:
Okay - I quit! The log won. smiley_thumbsdown
Tom,
May a swarm of fruit flies invade your shop every time you mix a batch of epoxy!
Tim,
Yes I have a log arch but I have not used it in so long the battery is dead. I used it with my ATV before I got the tractor. it would not think of lifting a log this big and I could never get it up that slope anyway. There is easily over 800 bf of lumber in this log.
Bill,
Yes, this is a typical WV slope. I had to climb up on all 4's to get the cable on it to start with then when it slid to the bench and dug in my problems started.
I went back today and dug under the log to get the cable under it, trimmed the front and Bibbyed the flare off the back. I pulled it about 10' but then when all weight was on the bench it was just too heavy to pull with my little JD 750. I bent my drawbar, pulled the cable clamps free out of the loop on the end of my long cable and straightened the hook on my short tow cable. I'll leave the log where it lays till I know what size lumber I need and buck it to length and drag it down in shorter lengths later.
The day was not a total waste though. I can hammer the drawbar straight and re-bend the hook and while looking through for some hinges for a bin to keep the trash in for pick up I found 2 more big hinges so at least I can build and hang the last door on my shed next week.
Gee Howard, are we a bit testy today? Do you need a hug?
Sorry about your issues with 'the log'. Wish I were closer so I could lend a hand, I love a challenge! I had a log similar to this once trying to pull it out with my Mule. It was long time down, partly rotted into the ground. A big red oak, about 28". I cut two 12' logs out of it and quickly gave up hooking up the arch to lift and pull it uphill. So I turned the mule around, put a choker on the log and used the winch to try to get it out of it's rut. That just dragged the mule down hill. SO then I chained the back of the Mule to a tree to hold it in place and winched it while also putting the mule in reverse and trying to jerk it loose. That worked enough to move it a little and after 6 tries, I managed to get it out enough to re-rig. I put the arch back on it, backed the Mule up to it and lifted it a little, then hooked the winch to a tree to pull the Mule, arch and Log up, while I tried to drive it. It was touch and go, but I finally got it moving and eventually onto the road. I figured that log at 2,500#. I got several bars and table tops out of it as well as that chair I made. Took me about 2 hours to do what would normally be a 10 minute hook and skid with a normal 18" log.
So I am not laughing at you, I am laughing with you. Been there done that.
I am very anxious to see your shed completed with doors all across, that will be a milestone and a long ay from when you just wanted some racks in the right hand bay. Please do hurry on that, won't you? ;)
Yeah, this was a case of just knowing when to quit. I just don't have the equipment to move a log that big in one piece. I'll have to cut it into 2-3 logs anyway so its better to just leave it till needed.
This flat lander just can not get over crawling on all 4s uphill to pull a log down hill.say_what
Tim,
When people ask me how much land I have I tell them I have 41 acres but if I could lay it flat I'd have over 80 acres. smiley_smug01
When we go hunting we will see a deer 100 yards away and say "If he comes over on my side of the draw I'll shoot him but if he stays on the other side I'll let him go as he is not worth the effort."
Surveying in WV has got to be a pain in the tukas.
Quote from: rusticretreater on February 08, 2024, 09:54:59 PMSurveying in WV has got to be a pain in the tukas.
Lol, my son was surveying the pipeline there for a couple summers and could climb hills like a mountain goat after that :)
Stuck again!!! :veryangry: I'll never learn!
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Big Dummy. ffcheesy I haven't stuck mine since Wednesday sawing that 36" Pecan butt from the stump. I had it wedged but when it dropped to the ground it stuck my bar. I removed the power head before I hooked the Magic Hook and truck to roll it.
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Maybe removing the power head was not necessary, but it made me feel better. I didn't need a squished MS392.
If it ain't food, it does not need squishing. ffcheesy
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on February 08, 2024, 08:53:16 PMTim,
When people ask me how much land I have I tell them I have 41 acres but if I could lay it flat I'd have over 80 acres. smiley_smug01
If you kept flatening, like you would dough, til you got to slightly above sea level you'd have even more.
GAB
but then your taxes would go up. ffcheesy
All I can say is be careful with your wedges :veryangry:
Ounce of prevention. Sometimes I will use a grapple to hold the log steady. Other times I will top cut a bit and then under cut it until it sags, then top cut again at an angle to get to the remaining part that hasn't been cut. Gets messy sometimes.
@SawyerTed late to the party but is it true that WEEE are never, ever, ever, getting back together? ffcheesy
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on February 08, 2024, 07:30:38 PMYeah, this was a case of just knowing when to quit. I just don't have the equipment to move a log that big in one piece. I'll have to cut it into 2-3 logs anyway so its better to just leave it till needed.
Early on all I had for skidding was a 72 Power wagon that had hoedad blades welded over the frame tears ... and there was this really nice 16' white pine log. I got changing U joints down to about 10 minutes but finally threw in the towel and made 2 8's. I was tidying up in the shop yesterday and came across a stack of U joint boxes ready to go ffcheesy.
Though I don't get a bar stuck often anymore - if you haven't gotten a bar stuck you haven't done much cutting...
Hmmm..I have not done anything dumb in a while. But then again my definition of dumb has been down graded significantly!
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that butt log seems much smaller than the stump. did you take a log out of the middle?
No, the tree was still intact from stump to crown. (Chunk of notch wood laying behind the stump maybe makes it look bigger). Got the tractor and hooked a chain on it and pulled it down. Some days the aim is a little off... :uhoh:
Though it did give me an excuse to figure out how to post photos in the new system. ffcheesy
Time for my did something stupid. Was slabbing a 34 inch oak and using a mallet to tap wedges in. Got a slab off, set the mallet on top of the log. Went to pick up my handheld remote and promptly dropped it. It hit the ground just right to speed up the engine and move the saw head forward. Before I could pick up the remote and stop everything the blade caught the mallet and threw it into the blade rollers on the outfeed side. Going to take several hours and dollars to replace the parts that were too bent to straighten.
Oh no. I hate when that happens.
Maybe it's time for someone to come up with a remote emergency stop or a proximity sensor that would disable the remote if the operator isn't in contact with the remote?
I've wondered why an E stop isn't standard on the mills.
I agree with the need for e-stops so I added 4 to my mill. One on each corner of the carriage.
I use to sell radio remotes made by Teleradio. They offer various safety options such as a time function where it will shut down an operation if there is no input for a set period of time. Another option is to shut down if the remote is out of range. The range can be manipulated by strategic placement of the antenna or shields around it, etc. You can also build in safety by programming a button as a "dead man" function. The button must be pushed and maintained by the operator for it to work. You can also program 2 buttons to create a 2 hand no tie down function. With many higher end remotes, you can get really creative with programming to accomplish various levels of safety. With low cost "garage door" remotes, not so much..
Resonator, that is not dumb, that is standard practice. Hook up the tractor and pull it down.
I take back my "have not done something dumb in a while" post. The simple set on my LT35 has a plastic lever on the left. Push it forward for saw travel. Pull it back and walk along side to bring the head back, if you let go it stops return travel. Well after a pass I wanted to measure up where my beam was so raised the head, shut down the blade and started to walk back. I caught my belt loop on the return lever and broke it. The head went into return mode and the sawdust chute knock me down from behind and continued on till the front bumper. Landed in a fresh pile of sawdust so no harm except for embarrassment. $9 new lever fix will be hear tomorrow.
Well, you tempted fate...didn't you? Glad it wasnt worse damage and no injury.
My turn again. Twas milling a log I was, when I lowered the two log stops alongside. The third, at the end, having escaped previous inspection made its presence known when harkoning to its meeting with the whirring wood knife. Now knowing many of you are in astonishment and puzzled how such an event may have occurred, in disbelief that one could be so careless and absurd in undertaking ones task, that I dear sirs do not deign to provide further explanation except to remark "the sawmill blade hath seen better times."
Upon replacing the offending member and chastising the log stop for its misbehavior, I did resume my chosen task of making fine quality oak boards for the enjoyment and provision of the fine woodworker who does inhabit yon local woodshop not 50 paces hence.
As the cant had nearly completed generously donating its essence to the procurement of high quality lumber, I was necessitated to place the log clamps at a acute angle to hold its remaining substance firmly for the final masterful cut. Seeing the sharp, fine tuned blade had the necessary clearance to pass safely by the log clamp tooth, I proceeded hence to complete the task at hand, oblivious to the fact that the nearby swivel bolt of the log clamp exceeded the height of the log clamp tooth however slightly.
Twas only a scratch, a minor disagreement between two metal objects, but enough to bring to the ears that onerous and dreadful sound of the finality of the situation. Once again I was set upon by the misfortune of chance and the possibility of another enumeration of 25 dollars lost, such is the fate of my coin of the realm. I did cry "woe, alas, alack!" as I opened another 10 pack. The boards however were splendid.
Yes, I know I'm weird. ffcool
That has to be the best and most detailed description that I have ever read about a screw up. smiley_computer_monitor
Congratulations have to be in order !!! ffcheesy ffcool
Caveat Serrator....
Loosely translated, "Let the sawyer beware."
Twas a joy for me to read, however me thinks twas not a joy for you to experience.
Hail and well met oh Creator of the Rustic Stuff! Blessed are we to receive the lessons in the telling of your tale, that we may not transgress and tread lightly into the dark voids that arise within a clouded vision of haste. Alas and anon for the horrid death of your mighty and noble blade indeed and a pity for it's effect on your coffers.
That you might sally forth once again to meet the challenges is but a testament to thy noblest of character.
We're all weird.
You guys are scaring me with your stories of mallets being thrown and getting knocked around by the returning carriage. I'm glad to hear it hasn't gone more poorly!
I guess I did something dumb in a similar metal screechy way... I built a cross-cut sled for the table saw about a year ago. It was my first attempt and while it worked I didn't really like it. I'd seen some much simpler examples so I started taking it apart to rebuild. I removed a bunch of screws and got rid of the far side rail of wood I didn't need. Then I went to cut a 45 degree angle in it so I could cross-cut some bevels for a box I'm poorly attempting to make. "Hmm, what are those sparks, in the dust collector hose?" "Oh, I'm just slicing through a screw I missed." Dummy.
cool.
back in training when I had little time and or money, and only owned a 10-inch Ryobi chop saw, I needed to cut some meatal and realized a metal cutting blade would fit. It worked well but should have removed the dust bag as it had areas that glowed red briefly, and then left a hole. Only I could let the smoke out of a dust bag. :usa: :uhoh: ffcheesy
Many years ago we were warned by our "Polymeric Materials" instructor about the dangers of hot non-polymeric chips in the dust collector in a "general shop"/industrial arts shop.
Polymeric materials was a name for it when our university department was going through an identity crisis. If it was wood or plastic it was a polymeric material versus non-polymeric materials - metals and ceramics. ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy Those names replaced the the names Woods I, II and III and Metals I, II and III! ffcheesy
Eventually, the Industrial Technology Department became 2 departments - Manufacturing and Construction Management. The Manufacturing Department became the ECU School of Engineering and Construction Management is in the School of Business.
I blame non-polymeric materials for all of it! ffcheesy
Same idea on a larger scale, the furniture plants here have fire detection in the dust lines and trained firefighting crews in house but the shops and smaller factory I worked in did not. We tried to keep a close eye out but every now and then a stray piece of metal made it into a machine. One of the men that took care of marketing/removing the dust at several of those shops told me to hop in one day and we went to visit another component shop I worked in. The wide belt sander had hit metal and threw sparks into the dust collector. It was similar to many of y'alls dust systems just bigger. It ran a 50 hp blower, a cyclone from the top of the truck to well over the roof, maybe 30' tall total. The grain side truck pulled in under where a shop system would slide in a barrel. The sparks and airflow got to the bin on the old International grain truck and ignited the dust inside. The reason he had me ride along. The young guys had the presence of mind to pull the truck away from the building, but it had a dump on it and they didn't dump the burning load. The truck was a crispy critter :huh?.
Doc, my sander lost its bag to pretty much the same thing. I ran it with duct tape for a little while but it unsticks pretty quick in that environment.
I punished myself, by buying a new bag, back when that was a bit of coin. ffsmiley
I rode my ATV up in the woods and dragged down what I thought was an uprooted locust. Turned out it was a black walnut and I'll salvage one small sawlog from it. I dragged about 30' of the top down and sawed it up into firewood lengths. Then I rode back to the barn and hung my saw back up on a nail and went over to work on my next project.
I looked back and saw the air was full of smoke apparently coming from the tack room where I'd hung the saw. I immediately realized I must have hung it up before the muffler cooled and it set the barn on fire. I rushed over to see if I could put it out and instead I found Sampson, my knock around Rat Terrier buddy was vigorously digging himself a new bed in the dust of the stall and instead of smoke what was I was seeing was dust. Sampson seemed to think it was funny but I was just relieved.
Maybe this doesn't really count as anything dumb.
I heard about a guy one time who forgot to remove the little key on the chuck when he put a new bit in his drill press and did not find out till he turned the drill on and the key went flying. I'm sure glad I never did anything like that. :uhoh:
It's even more exciting when it is the chuck key on a lathe, either wood or metal. So I've heard....
(On the metal lathe that I heard about the chuck key hit the ways and sheared the little drive belt which is supposed to be the "fuse" in the drive train. It worked.)
Or at least "So you heard". smiley_smug01 ffcheesy ffcheesy
KAPWING!!! :SHOCKED1:
Most new guys leave a chuck key in a lathe chuck once. The way to keep them from doing it again is to allow them to take time out to machine a new and properly made replacement key. or so I have heard. It's the same way I learned not to leave the 3/4" box wrench on top of the drawbar for a Bridgeport collet, or so it has been said by some others (who by now I think are long dead or should be). ffcheesy
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Well today was another beauty that found me in the woods cutting some mushroom logs. After a couple of hours my back was shot and I had a stack of logs cued for pickup later (access is temporarily blocked, gotta move that bus). But instead of heading to the shop, I thought I would head to another section of the woods and collect some long dead and very sound ash for needed firewood. I really had to thread the needle to back the truck in to a spot where I could reach in a chain and yank the first log out to the trail and easy cutting and loading. Got the first one done and the second was even tighter, but I threaded the needle and the chain just reached, but I was REALLY close on the rear quarter panel. I gave the log a yank and it started coming, so I lair it on a bit. Then 3 things happened at once: A) there was a broken spur on the pull log that landed flat against a healthy and firmly rooted Hickory, 2) the forward movement of the truck stopped abruptly, and C) The rear of the truck was swung right up against a somewhat healthy and also firmly rooted 24" EWP. The edges of my taillight were imbedded in the bark. The rock the truck slid sideways on was sloped toward the tree. I was literally between a rock and a hard place.
Long story short, I ripped off the taillight in the process of getting the truck out. The body damage is tiny and will almost buff out. I lost the two little plastic retainers that hold one side of the assembly in. I just could not find them in the duff. I disconnected the blub carriers out the the assembly and let them hang and put the lens in the truck and finished cutting up the log and loading.
Came home and split the big rounds and stacked them. Then I got out the tools and was going to reinstall the assembly. But I found that the bulb and it's adaptor were missing. I can't put a bulb in without a socket. The assembly was fine, but that stupid little adaptor was gone, must have fell out on the way home. 2 miles of road and a half mile back in the woods. SOOOO, I get in the truck and drive the whole road. Yeah, what are the chances? But finding this stupid thing online is gonna waste an entire evening. SO I looked, and looked over the whole road. There are an AWFUL lot of pine cones that resemble that bulb socket, did you know that? Got back into the woods and when I hit the trail that went back into the spot I parked and walked it, know I could NEVER see that thing in the duff and would run it over. Walked all the way back to my work area. No joy, I kicked around a bit where I was dealing with all this and cutting. No joy. SO I started to walk back out, resigned to a wasted evening looking for a replacement. I went about 12 feet and I FOUND IT and it was INTACT!
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Clear as a bell, I don't know how I missed it the first time. Nearly dark when I got home, so I'll finish fixing it tomorrow morning. I also added a dent to my running board/step on the passenger side today (small WO in the wrong place). My truck is unfortunately starting to look like a 'crummy' a lot earlier than I expected it to. I have a lot of dents and dings on it and all but one are from trees.
so, I took the sawmill to Ketchikan, Ak as you all know. it is 30 miles from me in Hutchinson KS. BSA camporee in the winter, and thus Alaska. I have a 30-gallon Sterlite brand tub that I use to cover the setworks on the mill. I put that in the back of the truck, and to keep it from blowing out, I set about 3 gallons in a 6-gallon plastic gas can inside for weight so it would not fly out. My daughter Monique rode along. after the mandatory chat with other leaders and organizers, we went to drop the mill off in a good spot. sure enough, no tub or gas can. never heard anything or saw it fly out. I told Monique we could look for it on the way home and it would probably be just picking up our liter. wind was out of the north, and trip over was east, now going west. Wow halfway home is my gas can on the north side of the highway. cap and spout still on. no holes. still half full of gas. into the truck she goes. did not see the tote but on the way back out in the am, it was on the south side of the highway. so stopped on my way home to pick it up, but it had crack in it. I was able to read the size and brand and Walmart still carries them, so I am good. Hope that makes you feel a little better Tom.
Wow, I have never lost anything that big or heavy out of my bed. I do remember the trip back from the LogRite open house with a bed full of legs padded with packing foam to try to keep them unscratched, that we MAY have lost a FEW pieces of the foam sheets here and there. :wink_2: But something with weight to it, no, I can't recall that.
wind must of caught it just right! smiley_thumbsdown ffsmiley
I worked with one tool maker for years. he was a very calm person.
One day He blew up on one of the maintenance men.
He had left the chuck key in the lathe, after being warned at least 3 times.
the chuck key was thrown across the tool room by the toolmaker that time.
I don't recall seeing him mad any other time.
The chuck key for the drill press has a spring loaded pin in the centre so it can not be left in the chuck.
I was taught that when you are using the key it never leaves your hand and when you are not using it to have a dedicated spot for it so if it is not in your hand it is in it's place and if you don't see it there don't turn on the machine.
The shops and factories I worked in had the chuck key connected on a chain bolted to the drill press. And the hand held drills with cords had a rubber loop holding the key to the cord. (It also kept the key with the drill and not get lost). Those at least prevented me from ever having a key go flying.
Now trying to start a gas engine with a broken pull cord, by spinning the flywheel nut using a cordless drill with a socket on the end, and having the engine torque turn opposite of the threads holding the chuck on the drill motor, unscrewing it and sending it flying off the running engine... that I may have possibly done before. smiley_lipsrsealed
I remember my metal shop teacher in HS preaching to never leave a chuck key in a drill press or lathe. Also the drawbar wrench on the top of a Bridgeport. Back in the early 80's teachers had more latitude to express their opinions to students of you screwed up, and he didn't minc words if he saw that you did.
I think of him every time I use my mill or lathe and if I even start to forget, I quickly remember for fear he will come back from the dead to berate me.
I must say though that this teacher was one of the best I ever had and is a big reason I developed an interest in metal work. I still use what I learned every day. I am by no means doing aerospace work, but I learned enough to do most of what I need to do.
Yeah, my shop teacher was like that. More than one kid got the back of his head smacked!
He used to let a few of us use some of the power tools unsupervised :wacky:
One kid was a transfer. I think his folks were ion the military or something as he said he had been in a lot of schools. Anyhow, not the sharpest nail in the box.
He was making something small, using the bandsaw. Managed to break the blade. Then tried on the radial arm saw. It grabbed his work and shot it into the wall, exploding it with shrapnel flying. Still not deterred, he went on to the table saw. Managed to slice his thumb just as the shop teacher came around the corner. Wrapped it up quick and asked him if he was ok. Yes? SMACK. Then sent him to the nurse.
I had a drafting teacher in JHS that had a short temper sometimes. He would throw an eraser as a warning shot, if that didn't have effect, he would follow it with an architect's scale. When he progressed to throwing T-Squares, he got a subtle warning from the principal that this probably wasn't a good idea. He agreed, so he moved on to throwing shop stools. We had a pretty well behaved class.
I thought he was a great teacher and he was the guy that encouraged me to transfer to a Technical high School, which set me on my path. He taught me an awful lot about reading and creating drawings and translating flat drawings into 3D visuals in my head. I found out after I moved on to another school that he lived just around the crooner from me the whole time I was in his class, actually since when I was 6 until his passing. Good guy, Mr. Erlich was, temper and all. The only thing he ever threw at me was encouragement. Thank God for those wonderful folks that taught us real skills and thinking processes. I was truly blessed with the instructors I had in HS, they really did me well. Of course, at the time, the is a rumor that I may have been a little trying on them. Looking back, I'm sorry for that (well maybe just a little bit).
For me it was Mr. Ralph Caswell. It was his first teaching assignment and he was 21 y/o IIRC. He taught me 12th grade English and taught me how to properly do research, make an outline by shuffling and arranging my note cards then fleshing it out. It is hard to believe I had gotten that far without anyone communicating those skills to me but he reached me.
He probably weighed 95 lbs soaking wet, walked erectly and looked like a little Bantam rooster strutting when he walked. I am sure he was paying back student loans and was dirt poor on an entry level HS teacher salary. He'd wear a white shirt and you could see 3" holes in the undershirt underneath. I would not have used the undershirts to wash my car.
Of all the teachers I had in HS and professors in college he had the biggest impact on the rest of my life. My big regret is I never knew it till it was too late and was never able to tell him.
Well I used some mechanical skills and put one of the original roller guides back on my mill quick. The adjustable Cooks guide on the drive side of the mill had come loose and try as I might I couldn't get enough down pressure without the roller being wonky. I took the fabricated mount arm to a machine shop and had them mill a little more adjustment in the bolt holes. Yes I could've done it with my drill press but, we take care of dogs and cows for them. So I give them business and buy some steel here and there. So after I got the old roller guide on and adjusted close I needed to finish a red cedar I was sawing into 5/8" closet liner. All seemed good, blade was riding about right on the old roller so I made a couple passes to edge two flitches against the cant and all was good.
Predator Motor wasn't running the smoothest.. It was pretty much dark out so I turned my lights on and started the first cut on the cant. I could smell oil too much. but in the light I could see a stream of white smoke trailing South. I quick backed out of the cut I had barely started and looked more closely. Smoke was pouring up out of the top of the motor on the idle side cylinder, crap did I loose a head gasket.
I shut it off.
Why was white smoke not coming out of the muffler where it's supposed to???? I step up on the mill to look down at the top of the engine and......, the oil fill cap was missing.?????? :uhoh:
I guess I failed to tighten it or cross threaded it the last time the stupid Predator blew the oil cooler hose clamp off and I needed to add more oil.
The cap was laying about four ft down the track laying below the chain turner, I cleaned it with a grease rag and back to sawing I went.
I did get my forty or so square ft of cedar sawn eventually but as usual it was a bit of a struggle.
Quote from: Nebraska on February 23, 2024, 07:43:34 AMI did get my forty or so square ft of cedar sawn eventually but as usual it was a bit of a struggle.
About then I usually hear "Wouldn't have it any other way ffsmiley".
Resawing and mention of band sizes elsewhere made me remember an old resaw in the corner of one shop when I was about 18. It stood around 10' tall to the top of the spoked iron and wood wheel. The 4" wide blade was reposing along the wall beside it. Happily the shop down the street let us use theirs the few times we needed one, usually for closet lining or chip and dale ears.
Struggle continues, cow disaster to start my day, went poorly. (Long story)..... ends with five sutures in my left index finger. (Left handed) makes doing surgery now interesting. Didn't really do anything dumb just "stuff" happens.
Quote from: Nebraska on February 23, 2024, 11:48:52 AMStruggle continues, cow disaster to start my day, went poorly. (Long story)..... ends with five sutures in my left index finger. (Left handed) makes doing surgery now interesting. Didn't really do anything dumb just "stuff" happens.
Ugg!! You didn't sew yerself to a cow agin??? ffcheesy
well usually an accidental cut is to the non dom. hand. need to hold that knife in the Left. :snowball: I look forward to hearing the rest of the story. Was Paul Harvy from Nebraska? ffcheesy ffcheesy
also hard to suture your non. dom. hand yourself. smiley_thumbsdown ffcool ffsmiley ffsmiley ffsmiley
Pat, really sorry to hear this. Hope it heals quick since you're a southpaw. Hope the cow survived the aftermath.
Jeff, just what do you mean by "Again"? :thumbsup:
Doc- You're a doctor, Nebraska- feel free to chime in on this as well.
This is the "did something dumb" thread so I'll ask about a "May do something dumb in the future" thing.
I've had stitches several times. I'm not too squeamish in those situations and I typically try to watch what's happening when getting stitched up, or most recently, several years ago, watching my son get stitches.
How dumb is it to stitch yourself up? What kind of trouble, beyond obvious infection, could I get in? I vaguely recall spending a pretty crazy amount of money getting something stitched that I feel I probably could have done myself. I understand there will be pain involved without any pain relief too...
Just saying going into this!
No graphic injury photos on the open forums. Go in a members only area to post please if you must. One of Doc's finger severed photos got our ads turned off for 2 days the first week we were testing.
I am not sure whether to be proud (doctor in me) or sorry (forumite in me), but message received. I have sewn up my own knee, face is hard. It is usually ripped open by something outside so the whole sterile thing is over played. we use vinyl clean gloves now not sterile. I still use sterile caause they fit better. enter at your own risk. It is not hard, but there are obviously some tricks to the trade.
not trying to be smart, but the young man's fingers have made a full recovery, and he lives to be more careful in the future.
All I did with it was made it clickable with a spoiler tag. ffsmiley
that is even better.
Guess it's my turn.
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Stupid spring branch while limbing. Never saw it coming.
oops sorry Tom.
Quote from: doc henderson on February 23, 2024, 03:43:11 PMI am not sure whether to be proud (doctor in me) or sorry (forumite in me), but message received. I have sewn up my own knee, face is hard. It is usually ripped open by something outside so the whole sterile thing is over played. we use vinyl clean gloves now not sterile. I still use sterile caause they fit better. enter at your own risk. It is not hard, but there are obviously some tricks to the trade.
not trying to be smart, but the young man's fingers have made a full recovery, and he lives to be more careful in the future.
Doc,
That reminds me of the joke about the guy who came home late and drunk and fell on the steps and landed on a flask of liquor in his hip pocket. He sneaked in the house and eased into the bathroom and closed the door to the bathroom before turning the light on to doctor his injuries. He backed up to the big mirror and bandaged himself as best he could, put away the disinfectant and bandages, cleaned up the area, turned off the light, opened the door and sneaked into bed without awaking his wife.
All was good till he was awakened by an angry wife a few hours later. She yelled at him "You promised no more excessive drinking but you lied." The husband apologized and asked how she found out. She opened the bathroom door and pointed to taped up bathroom mirror. :uhoh:
Tom,
Sorry to see the picture. I hope there is no permanent damage.
As a fashion comment you should have asked for a black patch so you could at least tell Inga and the grandkids you are practicing to be a pirate.
Well, it's not a big deal but very annoying. I think I may have scratched the cornea but I don't have that itchy burn that I think is normal with that. However the vision is blurry and my depth perception was way off so picking my footsteps on sloped ground was a lot like stumbling in the dark after a 12 pack. Not the safest thing. I was just going to let it ride, but put the patch on to give the eye a chance to rest. It sounded good at a the time. ffcheesy I only had (formerly) sterile eye patches in my trauma kit. I have a bit of a headache from it. But that led me to learn that most of my visual acuity is in my right eye and trying to read anything with the left eye really requires glasses. Nothing is very comfortable. I just got off the phone with Bill and between the cold temps, the wind, and my blinky :crazy_eyessmilie: stumbling condition we decided not to go back out this afternoon and rescheduled for tomorrow afternoon. I suspect the eyeball will be fine after a full night of sleep.... or not. ffcheesy
Yes, I will have to look for a black patch for the next time it happens. My GS was here when I came out of the bathroom with the patch on and it scared him a little, but he's OK with it now.
Tom, I too have read about people who drink twelve packs and stumble around after dark... :snowball: ffsmiley ffsmiley ffsmiley
Wow, I certainly hope that there is no damage to your eyesight! Also hope the recovery is quick for you :thumbsup:
Many years ago I was high up in a white pine tree cutting branches, holding the chainsaw at full reach over my head when it blew some chips into my eye. To be safe I got it checked by the doctor, luckily the cornea healed naturally on its own. Hopefully it all heals good for you. :thumbsup:
Shoot Tom my finger boo boo is nothing compared to that. Hope everything is ok.
Oh and if anyone wonders those orange handled diamond knife sharpeners that Bass Pro/Cabelas have on the shelf work real well, especially on old Chicago cutlery posting knives that bounce around in the back of an old vet truck.
Even with glasses that nearly set on my cheeks and still I get chips up under the. But at least I didn't have to self inflict some stiches because I suck at that with no training or practice, let alone knowledge. That would be very ugly, like the last time.
But really this wasn't bad. I put the patch on because the depth perception issues were driving me cray and I did have a bit of a headache. It helped with both of those and I tried working in the shop. The beer goggle effect was still there, because with only one eye it was hard to align screws with the actual hole, or match a screw size to a hole size. I was re-assembling a set of sewing machine legs with the treadle. It took me a lot longer than it should, but it was a real learning experience, one might say it was an 'eye opener'. Working with one eye is no fun at all. I took the patch off around 8pm and the sore spot was no longer, and the depth perception is back, but things are still a tad fuzzy in that eye. SO it will be fine in a few days I expect. Too bad we don't have an eye doc on the FF staff. ffcheesy Maybe Lurk can whip up an AI one?
For sure it was a freak thing, but I probably should have had glasses on... I guess......maybe.
Resonator, I hate cutting overhead, even with glasses for just that reason, I a try to upcut whenever I can overhead, but that is hard if you're one-handing the saw overhead, for sure. I don't have those muscles anymore, I mislaid them someplace in the past years.
"wink wink"
Quote from: aigheadish on February 23, 2024, 02:30:26 PMHow dumb is it to stitch yourself up? What kind of trouble, beyond obvious infection, could I get in?
Well if you decide to use LA 200 as an antibiotic it really, really, stings - or so I have heard. ffcheesy
The branch went up under the face shield of the helmet. :huh?
No, not this time. I wear a full brim helmet with no shield. Maybe I should put that back on? But yes I have had branches and chip come up under the shield in the past. One time I had a spring loaded branch come right through the screen. Today I had glasses on, and helmet, and chaps. ffcheesy
Stings hah, burns like heck!!!
Well that's more warning than I was given. ffcheesy
My turn. I was cutting up some firewood and the saw ran out of gas. I gassed it up and topped off the bar and chain oil ready to get back to work. The saw was still warm and normally starts great but it popped and stopped and a pulled a few more times with no luck. I smelled gas and thought I must have flooded it but I didn't choke it being warm. Then I thought the gas smell was pretty strong and looked down to see my chaps soaked and the fuel cap dangling loose...dumped the entire tank of gas out on my chaps and boots.
At least the oil cap was on! I waterproof my boots with bar oil every month or so.
My dumb only dumb move for the day was dumping my western omelet and sausage links on the floor while trying to get a coffee in a Hampton Inn today.
Quote from: NE Woodburner on February 26, 2024, 01:21:21 PM...dumped the entire tank of gas out on my chaps and boots.
NEW,
At the Paul Bunyan show in October I stopped at a chainsaw demo and the guys showed how the chaps work by stopping up the chain if you cut into them. He also warned if you dump gas or oil or such on the chaps it causes the threads in the chaps to dissolve or clump or whatever but the bottom line is they no longer work as designed after that if you happen to hit that spot. I'd check it out. When you need those chaps to work - you will really need them, FWIW.
Overfilling your gas and oil tanks will cause the caps to back off and pop open, especially on Stihls. I thought I was mindlessly forgetting to put my caps back on until I figured that out.
I still prefer the screw on type and not the cam type. I guess they thought they needed a new idea. too bad it is not as good as the original.
I'm with you on that Doc. I don't like those new caps. Not at all!
Those caps are part of the reason I don't run Stihl saws, servicing dealer is the other.
I only have Stihl chainsaws, but I am not a fan of the flippy caps. They have never caused me a problem, but they are still a smiley_thumbsdown .
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on February 26, 2024, 04:47:19 PMthey no longer work as designed after that if you happen to hit that spot.
Well, that "spot" for me is the entire front part of the chaps on both legs. I put them in the sun to let the gas flash off since I wasn't sure washing them was a good idea. I guess I should consider a new pair. Too bad as these are not that old.
Oddball out, I guess. I like the flip caps, better than the threaded ones. Never, yet, had one come out. :snowball:
NE Woodburner: UV exposure is probably pretty bad for them too unfortunately 😕 I never thought about degrading the fibers with gas/oil!
They were only in the sun long enough to dry out so I'm really not too worried about UV damage for that short of a time. They did get pretty wet with a full tank of fuel mix dumped on them so that has me worried a bit. As I said before, they are not that old and were in good shape. Not more than a year ago I had replaced an old set that were dirty with sap and pretty worn and faded and thought it was time to upgrade.
I guess another $100 spent is better than a cut leg.
I'm just repeating what they said at the chainsaw safety class at the PBS.
there is an internal cam that has to turn as it closes, and if it is out of since, it pops out. you can usually tell the triangle does not go into the notch. when putting them in, I find the tab that is the smallest and line it up with the gap that is the smallest to get it started. If it wasn't such a DANG puzzle. I like the simple and reliable. I had a screw cap that the inner part started moving in the outer and had to get a new one. It at least was not like a murder mystery trying to figure out if anything or what was wrong. and if you do not notice, you get gas all over yourself or your shop or vehicle. other than that, they are ok. :snowball: ffsmiley
Sometimes you can index the tab on the cap pushing it with a flathead screwdriver, then it will seal better. But ultimately they are a wear part, and my Stihl dealer keeps quite a few replacements in stock. One other fix the bigger MS series saw caps are interchangeable, as I have switched caps between my saws before to keep 1 saw going.
Great, a design that allows folks with a hot saw to spill fuel everywhere. Guess I'm going to Stihl away from them!
I don't have a stihl saw for a lot of reasons. ffsmiley
what an odd thing for them to not just fix if it's such a problem :huh? I like the flip-up huskie caps, they are still threaded but don't need scrench if they are too tight and nothing puzzling about it
Curious that they would take the risk of leaving these caps in production. Sounds like a huge liability problem in the future, to the tune of millions upon millions of doe-re-mi.
I have had no issue with mine on a 361 and the 261 that I have now but will factor in that I don't use my saw as much as a lot of people on here.
On the other hand I get accustomed to having them and when I grab my little Makita I miss the Stihl caps a bit.
I learned that if there is any sawdust in the seals they leak. I also learned that the stupid things are indexed so they only fit one way. Which is super freaking annoying. but overall when they are clean they work good.
Have found no problem with mine at all. Won't say more. ffwave
My weed whacker is a Stihl and was a PITA to start from day 1. Saws are all Husky and I have no complaints. I'm sure Stihl has many quality saws as well.
I've got a commercial grade Stihl weed eater that I haven't had issues with. I don't remember which one and thinking about it I don't remember if it's got the cam or screw cap.
I think they thought we would like the toolless caps and not need a scrench. If you have a dozen chainsaws, you can prob. find something to stick in a slot to get a cap loose. I think they fell into the trap of design for both homeowners and pro.
I have 4 Stihls with flippys which have not given me any grief, but given the choice, I probably would choose the screw cap.
Your time may be coming ffsmiley , but you may also pay careful attention each time you replace the cap. when it does not work right, it will get your goat. :snowball:
My oil cap (forgot which Stihl) popped the locking lever up once and leaked a little. I thought it was me just getting older :uhoh: and forgetting to push it down.
it usually feels different when closing it if it is wrong. you can look to see if the triangular tab is setting properly in the corresponding notch. or wait till gas or oil soaks your clothes. ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy :snowball:
Quote from: TimW on February 29, 2024, 10:25:38 AMMy oil cap (forgot which Stihl) popped the locking lever up once and leaked a little.
Tim, I would say that if it popped open, it was not properly closed.
Quote from: Magicman on February 29, 2024, 12:13:52 PMQuote from: TimW on February 29, 2024, 10:25:38 AMMy oil cap (forgot which Stihl) popped the locking lever up once and leaked a little.
Tim, I would say that if it popped open, it was not properly closed.
Thanks Lynn! smiley_furious
How bout you go with: "someone" didn't put it on properly... headscratch
It is not always that you put it in the wrong orientation of the slots. there is a thing where it does not fully "un-cam" and therefore it will not full close to the register tab and does not seal. in fact, sort of pops up on one side and leaks
I've had only 1 or 2 instances in over 40 years with my Stihl saws where the caps didn't seat properly and I got doused. Obvious operator error and ever since those early adventurers I'm diligent about putting them back on properly. Oh, one of those instances I didn't put the gas cap on at all....thinking about other things and refueled and just picked up,the saw and started cutting smiley_furious3
I did that with oil. Of course I have also heard of an instance where the fuel tank was topped off with chainsaw oil. :uhoh:
Had a customer a few years back get a good deal on a saw that way. Previous owner had put bar oil in the gas tank, and vice versa, and insisted the saw was ruined. My customer dumped the tanks, refilled the proper fluids, and it started right up. ffsmiley
Quote from: Resonator on March 01, 2024, 05:22:50 PMHad a customer a few years back get a good deal on a saw that way. Previous owner had put bar oil in the gas tank, and vice versa, and insisted the saw was ruined. My customer dumped the tanks, refilled the proper fluids, and it started right up. ffsmiley
I got a 272 and a 61 husky dat I picked up that way. ffsmiley Also a couple of homelite super 2's that the duck bill had fell off the bar oil line. But I don't own up to the fact that I got them last two saws. ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy
In some ways I prefer the new cap, even though I have lost more that one tank of oil. I had to replace the oil caps every few years because the threaded portion would split. I didn't trust finger tight so I would use the scrunch to snug them, but I didn't feel I was over tightening them.
Doug in SW IA
the original that came on my 046-mag lasted 25 years. It (new style) would be fine if you could tell when it did not seat right, and also if it was obvious what to do to fix then when they are out of synch. you can buy a pack of 6 on amazon, so I think the new ones self-implode on a regular basis.
My dumb move of the day was cutting heavy firewood on the hill above my house and rolling it down the hill. Most stopped part way as expected, some made it as far as the pasture fence which was no big issue. One stopped against the R front time of my truck and another rolled past my wife's car. smiley_sweat_drop No real damage done but I need to check out that slope angle better next time.
Howard,
I don't want to be on your bowling team. smiley_thumbsdown :uhoh: :SHOCKED1: :lipsrsealed2: :scared3: oz_smiley
Tim,
Somebody has to keep those gutters cleared. :uhoh:
I was at Walmart today and checking out in the self check out. I decided to get some cash. Took my items and the receipt and off I went to the post office. Drove halfway home after that and realized I left my cash. I called walmart and they went to check for me. No money. They told me if I came in they would check the cameras to see what happened. Apparently 2 customers came after me. One checked out and didn't see the money. The next one helped himself to my money and off he went. Walmart manager said sorry and there was nothing he could do. I thanked him for looking. It was only $40, but still made me mad.
I to was at Walmart today and I used the ATM . . it would only allow a $200 withdrawal . . I was mad and walked away leaving my card in the machine . . 10 minutes later when I was at the cash register I realized I didn't have my card and I must have left it in the ATM . . so I go right over and no card . . I check my pockets again and still no card . . then I try the front desk courtesy counter . . Lucky me they had my card
Boy you guys are wimps worrying about a little cash and a lost debit card! Try walking off and leaving your brand new American passport at the Customs and Immigration counter in Beijing China!
I did that back in 2006. As I approached the departure gate for my next flight I realized what I had done and rushed back to see if I'd left it on the plane, which was of course now pulled away from the gate. I had to go to Security and report the loss. They assigned a "Minder" who probably pulls wings off of flies for fun. She was about 4' nothing and very stern, marched me around the airport telling me "You come me" so I followed like a little lapdog. She made some calls and took me further from the crowds into more remote areas of the airport down to a deep dark corner near the departure area. I knew my days were numbered till we finally approached a closet sized office near a deserted corner with a sign saying "Lost and Found". Lo and behold some benevolent soul had turned it in and it and I were reunited.
Of course by then my flight had left so I asked Miss Manners what to do now as I did not have a visit visa for China. She replied "You buy ticket China Airways. You go 'way." I told her no I just have to stay in the airport and catch the same flight tomorrow as it was a daily flight. She said "You no got visa. You buy tick China Airway, You go 'way." I told her no, I'd wait in the airport with visions of Tom Hanks in the Terminal and she snatched my passport, ordered me "You sit here" and stormed off. I figured she'd gone for more muscle! About half an hour later she returned, alone - thank goodness - and slapped the passport in my had and said "You go 'way. You come back 'morrow." I told her I could not go as I did not have a visa. She replied "I get you visa. You go 'way. You come back 'morrow."
I looked in my passport and found a new visa from China so I hurried off before I really made her mad. I went to the departure lounge, found an airport courtesy phone for a hotel with airport pick up. I called and spent the night in a decent hotel for about $50, returned the next day and came back to WV otherwise un-scathed.
whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smiley no_no no_no smiley_furious3 smiley_furious3 smiley_speechless smiley_speechless smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sweat_drop
You go Way-virginia! Now!
That is a good new nickname. You go way Howard. ffcool ffcheesy ffwave ffsmiley :sunny: :thumbsup: :yellow: thumbs-up smiley_bounce fly_smiley :red: go_away taz-smiley fiddle-smiley
All I can say is that is probably a really good thing there weren't any steep hills around that airport. ffcheesy
That alone sounds like a great reason to stay out of China...
You roll Way! ffcheesy
Your previous story is an adventure I have zero desire to try. ffsmiley
I loved it when she kept saying; You go 'way. ffcheesy
Quote from: jpassardi on March 05, 2024, 06:47:05 AMThat alone sounds like a great reason to stay out of China...
Hey, if you've got to be stranded there are a lot worse places. $50/night for a 3 star hotel and dinner meals probably less than $10 is not too bad. I walked around the area sight-seeing and shopping and if I could have found even one of those motorized rickshaw drivers who could speak English I'd have hired him as a driver/guide for the whole evening but there wasn't one who could or would speak English so it was shank's mare the whole time.
My new daily dumb act was trying to make a 3-egg omelet and deciding to use a flat skillet instead of regular cast iron skillet with sides. It is obviously going to be easier to slide the spatula under the omelet in a flat skillet. What I found was:
1) My stovetop is not level
2) A flat skillet won't hold 3 scrambled up eggs
3) Cleaning up raw eggs under the burner eyes is a pain in the patoo.
"You sit here. You no make no more omlit! You waste eggs. I come back soon to chek on you!"
No omelet making here.
Last night I made a one scrambled egg quesadilla using a floured tortilla, cheese, and of course an egg. It turned out so well that there will be another. food6
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 05, 2024, 10:54:20 AMWhat I found was:
1) My stovetop is not level
Howard,
ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy Anybody here that has been reading your posts could tell you it is on a hill. ffwave
Quote from: Magicman on March 05, 2024, 11:05:52 AMNo omelet making here.
Last night I made a one scrambled egg quesadilla using a floured tortilla, cheese, and of course an egg. It turned out so well that there will be another. food6
I am gonna have to try that, Lynn. :sunny: You made me hungry. :thumbsup:
Try putting garlic on the tortilla :)
You put Garlic on yours. Mine got butter. ffcheesy
Butter and fajita seasoning. ffcool
Quote from: TimW on March 05, 2024, 01:11:59 PMQuote from: WV Sawmiller on March 05, 2024, 10:54:20 AMWhat I found was:
1) My stovetop is not level
Howard,
ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy Anybody here that has been reading your posts could tell you it is on a hill. ffwave
You beat me to it!!! I was going to say the exact same thing!! ffcheesy
@WV Sawmiller , Don't be wasting eggs, grade a large are $3.59/dz here, $1.49/dz a month ago!
At a 1.49/dozen I'm not sure how they afford to feed those birds
Lowest grade by-product garbage they can get them to eat. Oh - and if the producer is in the egg vaccine reserve program they are subsidized by the federal government to keep the birds alive and in production so that retail money is just pure profit. Yes, that's an actual program.
True, they were $1.49/dz at Save-A-Lot grocery in Canton, NY!
I just don't believe all the talk about the massive die-off of 10's of thousands of laying hens, as the reason for the increase!
There were millions and millions culled, I am a nobody in the poultry world but I do know a couple of big players, and guys made bank when the USDA turned off the house fans.
The Avian influenza problem is real we have had it pop up in a couple back yard flocks. In our practice, the local area state veterinarian is a good friend and her job is awful dealing with a large laying flock and an outbreak.
We have a lot of large chicken houses around here and I have seen only one shut down with signage saying Stay far far away. I guess you better keep your insurance payments up to date.
Quote from: Chuck White on March 07, 2024, 08:16:07 AMTrue, they were $1.49/dz at Save-A-Lot grocery in Canton, NY!
I just don't believe all the talk about the massive die-off of 10's of thousands of laying hens, as the reason for the increase!
Chuck I have no doubt eggs were 1.49 a dozen. Without a subsidy of some sort and or very questionable practices that price is not sustainable whatsoever to the producer.
As for the die off 10s of thousands that number is way off the mark the reality is much higher. That coupled with feed costs alone going up by 50 percent or more in the last few years
is part of the price rise you're seeing. That's saying nothing about the increase in maintenance,trucking and carton costs. I'll assure you the bottom line of the direct producer is not any greater and arguably less than it's ever been.
It's a sad state of affairs when the producer can't make a profit and the final consumer doesn't feel they are getting any sort of value in what they're buying.
The disconnect between consumers and producers is real.
Quote from: Nebraska on March 07, 2024, 08:27:22 AMThe Avian influenza problem is real we have had it pop up in a couple back yard flocks. In our practice, the local area state veterinarian is a good friend and her job is awful dealing with a large laying flock and an outbreak.
I completely agree that the vet who has to show up has what must be the most horrible day ever, but the producers are making bank when that happens. We recently became NPIP certified, all the big outfits are. Part of the benefit of being certified is that if the USDA were to show up and quarantine / destroy my flock they will pay 100% value since we have that piece of paper, and it does not offset my insurance coverage at all, so one can double dip. If we were not certified you get 25% of the flock value.....
Quote from: newoodguy78 on March 06, 2024, 11:34:53 PMAt a 1.49/dozen I'm not sure how they afford to feed those birds
My guess is that that was one of the loss leader items for the week, to generate traffic.
GAB
Worth the double dip the reloading and restarting a flock is a pain, just from the little I know.
This one took a few weeks. I have a couple of those 1 cu-ft mixers. The power cord on one was really short, less than a foot. The outer insulation was pulled free of the cable clamp so I decided to replace it with a nice 8 foot 14g 3-wire cord. I plug this into a table saw type switch so I don't have to plug and unplug while working.
Anyhow, I was pouring this retaining wall.
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See the mixer? It's about 8" from the wall. So to mix a batch, I hose down the remnants of the last batch, add a 60 lb bag and turn it on. Then I dump another bag in a 5 gallon paint bucket. That makes it easier to slowly add to the running mixer. From there, I gather a shovel full and dump it in the forms.
I laid about 8 to 10 inches all the way around to let it stiffen up before going higher. So at one point I got between the mixer and the form board. The back of my knee touched the mixer's low handle. The vibration made it feel like a muscle twitch. Weird, I thought. A mix or two later, same thing happened again.
Then there was a clod of cement rolling around in the mixer. I grabbed it to crush it and it felt like I had a splinter in my finger. I took my glove off and couldn't find a thing. Finally, I was scooping up some cement and had choked up on the handle to the point of holding the metal head. When I touched the concrete I got a tingle. That's when it clicked. The mixer frame was hot!
Today, I swapped the hot and neutral connections on the motor. Problem solved. The frame was grounded so I don't understand how it could be hot or not pop the breaker. I have one of those circuit tester light thingies I need to try tomorrow. Maybe the ground is not connected at the outlet?
i did something similar with a porch light. had to crawl to the edge of the attic to rewire. did the green ground wire go to a screw to the motor frame? glad you are ok. I would worry you switched the neutral and ground. they both go the same bar on the panel, but the ground is also connected to the frame.
I am still kicking myself for my mistake... As a former parts guy, I take pride in not screwing up when I order parts. I have a gx240 on a woodsplitter that has provided years of good service. We've had a couple hickups lately and its not what it used to be. After dumping about $60 into the old motor I convinced myself to just bite the bullet and order another gx240 or gx270 and be done with it. I did my research, printed off the motors from 3 online stores to compare the prices and that they were indeed the same units. I then did a last minute Clist and ebay check. I found a brand new one on EBay for about $80 cheaper than anywhere else, shipping would take a few days longer. Perfect, that'll cover the $ I dumped into the old motor! Motor came in last week, put it on porch for crummy day repair. Yesterday was rain and yuck, perfect day for a swap. Unbox new motor, separate pump from old do a quick look around...wait a minute. Yeah, new motor has a threaded crank, I read threaded but was thinking tapped like on my 2cyl. Honda. Came back inside and pulled up the add, yup, I was wrong. Emailed the seller and I am heading to the post office now to.see how.much my mistake cost me. I won't let myself live this down anytime soon. New, correct unit is on its way, due Thurs.
rayrock I plan on dropping a Rayrock on the old one, it'll probably bounce off and land on my foot
Quote from: Ljohnsaw on March 11, 2024, 01:40:23 AMToday, I swapped the hot and neutral connections on the motor. Problem solved. The frame was grounded so I don't understand how it could be hot or not pop the breaker. I have one of those circuit tester light thingies I need to try tomorrow. Maybe the ground is not connected at the outlet?
Your description says that you have one leg connected to the mixer frame, somewhere/somehow, and the frame is lacking it's ground connection. The connection could be within the motor itself.
Your mixer could be "hot" when it is not running or it could be "hot" when it is running depending upon where the switch is in the circuit. You have a dangerous situation.
Ground dat frame.
Yeah John, what they said, check the whole thing out and get it right for your own peace of mind.
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OK, my turn and this is really embarrassing. Yesterday I was running errands (needed a tool) and it was so windy and nasty I decided a cup of black coffee would really be nice. So I stopped at the convenience store near my place and got one, plus a heated up buttered roll because I forgot to have lunch also.
So I am coming out of the store, buttered roll in one hand and coffee is the other. I pushed the door open and the wind took hold of it, instinctively I grabbed at it with my left (buttered roll) hand. The wind had a really good grip on the door and I had to reposition my feet to get it closed by leaning on it. As I was doing that another big gust about 30mph came in and started to take the hat off my head. Well my left hand was busy, so I reached up with my right to grab the hat just s it left my skull. I forgot what I had in my right hand. Fortunately, there was a sippy cover on it so I only spilled a little hot coffee over my head. :wink_2:
I got hold of everything and got the door closed, then looked around, there were people, but nobody saw what happened and since there are no photos, it really never did happen. But if it had happened, I would have looked pretty funny wrestling a door with one hand while pouring coffee over my head with the other. At least I imagine it would.... if it had happened at all. ffcheesy
Now you know why I don't drink coffee. ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy
I had an old buddy who once wrecked a brand new jeep when his hot coffee slid off the dash and landed in his lap.
Let me clear up my description. The ground wire from the power cord goes to the motor frame, and by physical mounts, to the mixer frame, assuming a good connection. I'll verify that.
The hot and neutral wires go to screw terminals on the motor, as well. In replacing the power cord, all I did was make the connections. I ASSUMED I got them reversed and that caused the issue. I don't understand how, but it was hot.
Maybe the grounded motor is not making good contact with the mixer frame. But how was the mixer frame getting charged if the only connections are on the motor and the motor is not making an electrical connection to frame? A conundrum.
Since this is a used power cord, I'll have to check connectivity of each wire end to end. Maybe the ground is bad?
I'm using what amounts to a power strip to turn it on and off. It's a pull/push switch with a removable plastic key to lock it off. I'll check that's conductivity, too.
Maybe the motor's insulation has just failed and is shorting to the frame? This is a little 1/4 hp motor. Amazing what a little gear reduction can do. Could get away with a 1/8 hp.
Verify the outlet isn't wired wrong too. If it is and your motor is right you would get the same issue. If it's an outside outlet it should be a GFCI and in theory would not be live with a backwards connection but I would not bank on that. Do you have a 3 light tester?
When we bought our place I was removing a wall stud when the outlet box on the stud started to arc and didn't stop so I ran downstairs and threw the main. I kept scratching my head trying to figure out what was going on. I could not find ground anywhere in the house but the breaker box had an earth ground wire and it was connected to a rod in the dirt. That's when it hit me, the breaker box had romex coming into it and the outlets all had the old metal clad wire and cloth at them, and those would have been a fuse box back in the day. So I tore back the sheeting around the breaker box and wouldn't you know it, someone had wire nutted all of the wire and clot to romex behind the wall and covered it up. One of many issues was that whomever did this didn't realize that back then the metal cladding was the earth ground, and the box wasn't bonded - so open ground everywhere in the house. With the main off I proceeded to cut every piece of wire and cloth back about 3' from the box so nothing could still be hooked up and ran some temporary romex to get lights and such, then I called my wife and told her that the quick and easy putty and paint remodel just go a bit more involved.
a direct short should trip the breaker. maybe in the cord?? as you said. If it is a grounded plug, then the hot is coming from the neutral now? voltmeter and an assistant who knows how to dial a phone.
My extension cord has a triple head. The inline switch was plugged in to one with the mixer into that. I plugged my three light tester into a second one. It showed the circuit was good. Hmmm.
So I unplugged the mixer and plugged the tester into the switch. Open ground! Plugged the tester back into the extension cord. Open ground!?!? Plugged the mixer back into the switch and the circuit showed good. So the mixer's steel legs were providing a path to ground that made the tester happy.
Went to the outlet and pulled the extension cord out and put the tester in. Open ground! Now I'm getting somewhere. Pulled the socket out and sure enough, ground wire broken.
Fix that, all tests good, mixer runs, no circuit breakers tripping.
I check the frame to a digging iron that I pounded into the wet ground a couple days ago. I see 0.6 VAC and 0.8 milliamps when the mixer is turned on. Not sure how accurate the meter is. I switched the wires on the motor back to what I had before all this and the above numbers are the same.
My extension cord is a 75 foot 10g really heavy one. The outlet happens to be the furthest one from the breaker panel. I think I'm good. But maybe I should use an outlet in the garage instead? Might be interesting to see what the meter readings would be.
FWIW, had that outlet been a GFCI when that ground wire broke you would not have power coming from it and all the tingling and stinging would have been avoided. More importantly the shaking and baking potential would not exist.
maybe the old motor is leaking a bit to the frame. some lacquer leak in the windings. no smoke loss yet. glad you are alive. ffcool :usa: :uhoh: electricuted-smiley smiley_furious3 :overlord: :sleepy: :vuur1: thumbs-up smiley_beertoast
Quote from: GRANITEstateMP on March 11, 2024, 08:08:19 AMrayrock I plan on dropping a Rayrock on the old one, it'll probably bounce off and land on my foot
Hey Ray, I told you your rocks are famous.
Dat Ray been Rockin' for a while and now he finally has proof. rayrock rayrock
Quote from: cutterboy on March 12, 2024, 07:19:19 AMQuote from: GRANITEstateMP on March 11, 2024, 08:08:19 AMrayrock I plan on dropping a Rayrock on the old one, it'll probably bounce off and land on my foot
Hey Ray, I told you your rocks are famous.
And that folks is how we got Rock n Roll.
Me three. rayrock
Still wet here, which is normal, but I have some rocks left over from last year that need to be hauled off. ffcheesy
rayrock :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I have some you can have If you run short rayrock
If I ran out of rocks to haul, I will get something bigger to haul the bigger ones. :wacky: ffcheesy ffcheesy
rayrock rayrock rayrock ffsmiley I haven't done anything real dumb yet today but I just wanted to try the rock. There's still time though.
Quote from: Nebraska on March 12, 2024, 08:50:27 PMrayrock rayrock rayrock ffsmiley I haven't done anything real dumb yet today but I just wanted to try the rock. There's still time though.
Need any help?????
GAB
So, today is my daughter's 30th birthday. My wife gave her a paper plate to put her refrigerator stored bagel on so she (my daughter) could warm it up in the microwave:
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A nice theme plate for sure. So afterwards I heard that the plate was on fire in the microwave. And it was burning and burned some of the bagel.
Well, we all had a good laugh about it at the birthday cake eating session at the dining room table.
My wife's second daughter turned the cake plate (same plate) over and sees this warning label on the back side:
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In case you can't read it is says "do not put in microwave as the paper plate will catch fire."
Now, I ask you who would ever read the back of a paper plate for a warning label?
We certainly didn't ever think to do that.
No microwaves were injured in the telling of this "I did something dumb today" story.
ffcheesy
Jim Rogers
Glad nobody was hurt in the incident.
Today is also my late older brother's birthday and my wife's younger brother's BD FWIW.
I brought home desert from a doc dinner thing and put the plate with a gold ring around the edge in the microwave. it looked like a nice thunderstorm.
Just before I left the USMC I had a leftover MRE and decided to cook it in the office microwave. I left it in the carboard box so it would stand up in the microwave. I remembered to tear open the pouch so it would not explode. Of course I forgot the pouch was foil so when I turned it on and walked away the fireworks started and the cardboard caught fire. The Gunny spotted it and shut it off and put out the fire before it got out of hand.
I got good news and bad news. First the bad news.....I stacked the quarter sawn Water Oak in the barn behind the telehandler's manlift platform. Then I remembered I had to anchorseal the ends. Took the grapple off and put the forks on. Moved the platform outside and hauled the just stacked and banded boards outside for end(s) sealing. Then back inside with everything removed above.
The good news is I got a new catalog from Surplus Center!!!
I deal with a fair amount of people at work and as such I have to check the mirror in the morning to make sure I don't look extra crazy. Usually I don't, but I have noticed my eyebrows getting a bit out of control...
Last night my son, upon being asked about salads or burgers or both said "It's a great day to grill!" which made me laugh for some reason, so I poured the dregs of a bag of lump charcoal into the charcoal chimney added some lighter fluid and fired it up. Being the dregs it was all the tiny pieces of charcoal, leaving no room for air to circulate, and after 10 or so minutes the coals were not lighting very well and it was getting late. I added some more lighter fluid to the chimney, and squirted some down the inside edge so I could relight it from the bottom. All that worked out great until i bent down and blew on the coals on top to get some heat going. Uh, it went. A lovely whoosh noise and the smell of about half the hair on the left side of my face being singed away was the result. One of the bushy eyebrows is less bushy now.
the hard part is doing it a second time to even things up! good luck. ffcheesy
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I am happy to report that I did nothing dumb yesterday......not. ffcheesy
At least you have a strap on there. :thumbsup:
So the man who has cut enough SYP to build a bridge to Hawaii buying store bought SYP lumber is the dumb part? :huh? ffcheesy
Lynn,
Is that treated? What are you building now?
Yes, "ground contact" treated.
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I am replacing all of the deck boards and railing on this 3 level porch and deck. Each level is approximately 12'X12'.
Lynn,
Ain't yuh got no white oak?
Doctor Emily decided we needed to go camping this weekend. That means de-winterizing the camper. So flushing water lines. Making sure batteries are charged, propane's tanks full etc.
Yesterday I got an email informing us the campground at Stone Mountain State Park is having water pressure problems. That meant sanitizing and filling the fresh water tank.
The short version is I forgot the water hose was still in the filler neck when I needed to move the truck and trailer to check air pressure in the tires. Yep, I pulled forward and tested the stretchiness of the self retracting wonder hose.
Thankfully it passed!
I did that once with a non retractable hose hooked to a water wagon on one end and a 300 gallon stock tank on the other. That hose must have stretched 4 times it's intended length when over the noise of the tractor I heard "SWOOSSSH" and looked back to see the worlds longest snake coming at me through the grass!! Unlike your hose, it didn't pass that test.
Ya know Doc, I was actually considering if I could remove a similar amount of hair on the right side, with fire, to even it up. I have a weird beard and the fire did a nice job "trimming" on the left side. I decided against trying it.
DID you know that a piece of lumber crayon about 2.5" long has the same feel in your pocket as your chapstick tube? Did you further know that when working on a cold windy day, if you are looking up at the tree tops trying to pick the lay for your next drop and you absent mindedly reach into your coat for your chapstick it can be very easy to grab the wrong one?
Finally, did you know that lumber crayons do little to help chapped lips?
It was just something I got to thinking about the other day.....for no particular reason of course. ffcheesy
Oh man the lipstick jokes are about to start! ffcheesy ffcheesy
I am wondering Tom, how you got the cap off of that crayon??
Not a joke; In the mid-80's a group of us were Antelope hunting in Wyoming and one of the hunters' lips became really chapped. Of course he knew that I always have a ChapStick so he reluctantly asked if he could borrow it. I also reluctantly let him. The next day he commented about how the ChapStick had helped him and again thanked me. My reply was that it had also helped my hemorrhoids. The moment was Golden !! ffcheesy
Wait just a cotton picking minute there Lynn! Who said it was me? I was just postulating is all. But I can further guess that if said person were wearing gloves and did not have full feeling in his fingers, he might have assumed he had pulled the cap off. Just sayin'.
Now that story you told was great, what a quick comeback perfectly aimed and delivered. ffcheesy
I'll leave this oldie but goodie here..
According to a news report, a certain private school in Washington recently was faced with a unique problem. A number of 12-year-old girls were beginning to use lipstick and would put it on in the bathroom.
That was fine, but after they put on their lipstick they would press their lips to the mirror leaving dozens of little lip prints.
Every night, the maintenance man would remove them and the next day, the girls would put them back. Finally the principal decided that something had to be done. She called all the girls to the bathroom and met them there with the maintenance man. She explained that all these lip prints were causing a major problem for the custodian who had to clean the mirrors every night.
To demonstrate how difficult it had been to clean the mirrors, she asked the maintenance man to show the girls how much effort was required. He took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it in the toilet, and cleaned the mirror with it. Since then, there have been no lip prints on the mirror.
There are teachers, and then there are educators
I love it Ted. Lipstick is kinda like ChapStick, all depends upon where it has been. :wink_2:
If sawdust is man glitter, is lumber crayon man lipstick? ffcheesy
well, for some of us Ted, some of us! (Not me, but we support you no matter what!) :thumbsup: :usa: ffsmiley
I've heard of putting lipstick on a pig but this is taking it a little far.
Quote from: doc henderson on March 19, 2024, 06:25:58 PMwell, for some of us Ted, some of us! (Not me, but we support you no matter what!) :thumbsup: :usa: ffsmiley
Just asking for a friend who uses lumber crayon instead of chapstick.
I know Ted, I know. that is what friends are for! ffcheesy
That Old person apparently uses a Green lumber crayon to keep his horn from chapping. ffcheesy
You know for most of my adult life I have often asked myself what it is about me that makes it so easy for other folks to pick on or make fun of. Still can't figure that one out.
Howard, I .ight need one of my hugs back. ffcheesy these guys are like a dog with a bone.
You're a good man Charlie Brown Tom, no matter what the others say. :thumbsup:
OK, my turn. Went in the other day to buy new chains for my saws, I run them until the cutter is worn down to almost nothing (but that's not the dumb part, that's just poor boy economics). ffcheesy
I knew there would be about 100 little packs of chains lined up to choose from, with all different shapes, sizes and specs. So I took a pic on my phone of the bar engravings on my 2 saws to know what I had to get. I bought the chains and went home to put them on, the 18" bar fit perfect and cut like a laser though butter. ffcool
The 16" I struggled to try to get on, wouldn't fit. Checked over the numbers again, had the right bar length, tooth count, cutter profile, but the bar groove was 2 tenths of a millimeter off. Such a little bit can make such a difference... ffcheesy
I know you want to show that you belong in our illustrious company, but there is nothing dumb about that! ffwave
I have a chain like that too. Strange thing is that another one, same manufacturer, same size and length fits!
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on March 19, 2024, 01:37:40 PMWait just a cotton picking minute there Lynn! Who said it was me? I was just postulating is all.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on March 20, 2024, 11:15:21 AMYou know for most of my adult life I have often asked myself what it is about me that makes it so easy for other folks to pick on or make fun of. Still can't figure that one out.
Wait just a cotton picking minute there
Lynn Tom! Who said it was
me you? I was just postulating is all. ffcheesy
Quote from: Resonator on March 20, 2024, 11:50:22 AM........... but the bar groove was 2 tenths of a millimeter off. Such a little bit can make such a difference...
2/10's of a mm is just .007". Are you saying the bar groove width was undersized? I feel like the dumb one here. (easy Lynn.)
The saw bar is 1.1MM, the chain I got was 1.3MM. Funny part was the bar tip is so wallered out it fit on there, but not on the rest of the bar. ffcheesy
OG your crayon story reminded me of a time back when I had a chance to go deer hunting for the day. We were probably 50 miles into the woods and it was a warm fall day so I grabbed my shotgun in case I saw some Patridge (Ruffed Grouse) or a deer. Had bird shot and slugs on me, in different pockets. Well we are driving back to camp after seeing nothing and round a corner, there is a Patridge standing off the side of the gravel road, so I proceed to get out of my truck, grab my shotgun and tactically load it while I snuck up to the bird, aimed high so to not fill it full of shot and "blam" I missed the bird from way too close much to my surprise. So I drop a second round into the chamber and "blam", bird is still looking at me and my buddy is laughing his butt off, so in complete bewilderment I grab a third round, chamber it and "blam" the bird flattens out like a spatchcock chicken while my buddy stops laughing and asks me "what are you using?" On the ground were 3 empty slug shells and a now headless and gutted Patridge that didn't have a speck of damaged meat on it....Worked out in the end but, whoops!!
Tom,
I'd call you and Indian giver but then the political correctness idiots would probably picket both of us. ffcheesy
Okay, you can have your old hug back. :veryangry: rayrock
I once shot a coyote going away from me with a 12 ga. slug while deer hunting, I thought I had loaded buck shot. The coyote was a mess.
What color was it Tom?
Quote from: Resonator on March 20, 2024, 02:31:50 PMThe saw bar is 1.1MM, the chain I got was 1.3MM. Funny part was the bar tip is so wallered out it fit on there, but not on the rest of the bar. ffcheesy
AH HA, so you bought an .058 chain and needed an .050 chain. I get it now. I thought maybe the chain was defective or the bar had an issue.
Dennis, it was
BLUE.
Thats the same color jake uses. :thumbsup:
Well, he IS one of my heroes! :wink_2: But I use red, yellow, and blue, depending on what shows up best. But when I am counting logs to make sure I have a complete order, I have a crayon in one hand and my clicker (counter) in the other. I go along the end of the stack and put a tick mark on the end of each log as I count it. Then an order goes out, and I have logs left and have to re-count. Well they already have marks, so I use a different color. The order that went out yesterday I think some of those logs had up to 5 marks on them. I ran out of colors, so I started making circles. ffcheesy
I also created a length marking tool for bucking logs to length and marking the whole stem quickly. I only use red in that one. I don't know why. Might try yellow, it shows better on bark.
But how does it look on your lips?
I wouldn't know.
That may just mean he puts it on, but does not look in the mirror! :-* :tickedoff2: think_not ffcheesy
I've heard of chicken lips and yellow belly, but not Yellowlips.
This is about a month back. Cutting a hard maple, I overcut one side of the hinge and it pinched my saw. Had to get out of the way, so the saw fell, the tree fell on top of the saw and caused the damage shown. Was able to do some bodywork on the saw cowling and all seems good. Glad I got out of the way as the tree landed right where I was. This was (and still is) a new MS 462-CM. Got lucky on that one!
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@PoginyHill That's a tough one. Hate to see your saw like that.
Day before yesterday was my turn. I was cutting down some dead pines. I usually work alone so just to be safe I took my tractor and opened the grapple above my head and parked the tractor right up next to the tree. My thinking was maybe it would deflect any falling branches before they got to me. It was pretty windy that day and I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not. But I made my cut and started walking away when I saw the tree moving. I turned around just in time to see the but end of the log bounce into the air and land dead center of the tractor hood. It would have caused extensive damage if not for the bumper which stopped it. I felt about 2 inches tall. To add insult to injury the tree wasn't any good anyway.
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well, you got the new all worn off and do not have to worry about any little scratches. I mean sorry! :uhoh: ffsmiley
That'l buff right out.
What is that packed around the spark plug on the saw?
Well, I was feeling better today, and since the weather is rain for tomorrow. I decided to work on my 90 year old mothers driveway instead of my Mikron 350 Pro. We had a small flood last week and it washed out her 5' culvert. I started and within 2 minutes I fell in the creek. Got up and figured I go put dry clothes on and said to myself "I just started so maybe I should hold off on that for a bit".....
and in less than 2 more minutes.........
.......I fell in again.
So, technically I did something pretty smart today. I guess perception is the key to success. :uhoh:
It's a balance! ffsmiley
I could use some balance lessons at work. Fell on some ice first thing this morning. Then the last part too. The second one was the worse. Hit my head. :rolleyes5: There was a guy I work with, and he saw it all. Asked if I was ok and I said, I have no idea. Both falls was reported. Just laying low tonight. I hope I wake up in the morning. ffcheesy
If you get confused, slurred speech, or the worst headache of your life, go to the hospital.
Hey Doc, is your name Brenda? ffcheesy ffcheesy
Weren't you told to leave Brenda alone?
well, I didn't tell you to go just cause you fell!!! ffsmiley I am more worried about the concrete floor that your head might have damaged. :snowball: ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy Be careful out there!
Brenda has been known to tell me to leave her alone. ffcheesy
I am trying to be careful.
I may not survive the rest of winter spring.
You fell on your ice? ffcheesy
He said with a southern accent!! like the second part of glass! ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy
You know I was thinking it may have had something to do with the green slime on the creek bed and rocks but now that you bring it up it's most likely a balance issue. Especially since "I fell on my ice" ffcool ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy ffcheesy twice! :uhoh:
As for today all I'm gonna say is ...
I thought it was a fart rayrock
Southside, southern accent? Ppfffttt! Doubtful, very doubtful. ffcheesy
He's still a good guy! :thumbsup:
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on February 26, 2019, 10:48:19 PMI made a cut and then went to raise the head so I could return it for the next cut. Apparently I lowered the saw on accident instead of raised. When I pulled the saw, the back of the blade hit the log and the blade came off the wheels. At first I thought the blade broke, then I realized what had actually happened. The blade appeared undamaged, but I was leery about putting it back on. I figure at the least, some teeth got damaged. Who's done this?
How many times. Steve
Quote from: Southside on March 23, 2024, 10:22:01 PMWhat is that packed around the spark plug on the saw?
Good question! I can't recall from the picture what it might be. I'm away right now. I'll need to take a look at other pictures I took and the saw itself when I'm back at the house. It does look odd now that you've pointed it out.
Is that the machined recess for the plug? Shining aluminum?
Wish I knew. I feel rather stupid not knowing - I'm guessing there is a simple explanation. Just can't access it now.
@SawyerTed was right. It is just the machined surface around where the plug goes in. The top is a bit discolored due to heat and sawdust. This angle shows it better.
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Then that is covered by a plastic piece that separates the cooling fins from the intake.
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Funny how much different the angle made that look, and THAT folks is how UFO's are confirmed!! ffcheesy
That picture was not blurry in anyway shape or form. Unsubstantiated rumor!
Quote from: Southside on March 27, 2024, 09:54:00 PMFunny how much different the angle made that look, and THAT folks is how UFO's are confirmed!
And Bigfoot and Nessie...
This needed drug to the top again so here I am. Yesterday Leaving the house headed to work I had grabbed my cap from the night before with my sunglasses sitting on it and set it on my head. Grabbed a couple little projects to do at the office and loaded up my old Labrador and left. Driveway faces due East and is 150yards long or so and the morning sun was tough. So I put the sunglasses on like except I couldn't see they were blurry, I was smelling motor. That's odd I thought. So I drove in without them. Got there and looked them over, they were covered with a mist of oil droplets. " Great now where is that stupid motor leaking oil again." I was sawing a little bit the night before until it got dark and I gave it up.
So last night I investigated, yep the oil fill cap had vibrated out shortly before I quit and didn't see it in the poor light. I wasn't aggressive enough in my tightening
At least I don't need to worry about changing oil for a while. :thumbsup:
The good part of this was my wife's comment when I was telling her about it was, "why don't you just order a new motor'" I started looking. ffsmiley
Yes, occasionally they surprise us. I thought the engraver was too expensive for a machine to basically manufacture art stuff. My wife went to HL here and got three wooden signs for Christmas presents. one had a crack and broke, so she had to drive 50 minutes to Wichita to get another one. She came home and said, "we are getting that engraver".
I got a tractor like that. Wife's brother was "taking care of " their daddy's tractor. I needed to use it. She was with me. It nearly took congressional action to get the old tractor going. Emily looked at me and said, " We need our own tractor." I had one in two weeks.
It has turned out the old Massey and their daddy's Farmall are both in my care now. So I have a choice of 3 and they usually crank with the first turn of the key.
Back in early to mid 2020 my wife walked outside one day after getting off a call with work - DOD - she had a TS / SCI clearance and dealt with 3 and 4 star Generals on a regular basis - she walked right up to me looking concerned and said "just order anything we need". I never asked about the call as I knew better, and being the good husband I am I did exactly as I was told to do. :thumbsup:
Those generals must have been like the opening you cut in the ice to fish, holes in the ice, ice h...s. ffcheesy See what I did there?
Quote from: SawyerTed on April 11, 2024, 07:57:56 AMI got a tractor like that. Wife's brother was "taking care of " their daddy's tractor. I needed to use it. She was with me. It nearly took congressional action to get the old tractor going. Emily looked at me and said, " We need our own tractor." I had one in two weeks.
It has turned out the old Massey and their daddy's Farmall are both in my care now. So I have a choice of 3 and they usually crank with the first turn of the key.
They crank, but do they start and run?
I can crank sometime but I don't run anymore.
After thirty years of marriage, my wife and I have got to the point where I present something to her and she knows there is a valid reason, that it has been thoroughly researched and that it is likely the most cost effective solution, or the best solution.
But one of the best days was when she said, you need a bigger trailer. Pow. Big Tex car hauler order placed.
Just wait until you are told that you are too old to need anything else !! :uhoh: :wacky:
Quote from: beenthere on April 11, 2024, 10:45:44 AMQuote from: SawyerTed on April 11, 2024, 07:57:56 AMI got a tractor like that. Wife's brother was "taking care of " their daddy's tractor. I needed to use it. She was with me. It nearly took congressional action to get the old tractor going. Emily looked at me and said, " We need our own tractor." I had one in two weeks.
It has turned out the old Massey and their daddy's Farmall are both in my care now. So I have a choice of 3 and they usually crank with the first turn of the key.
They crank, but do they start and run?
They run like tops! I despise a motor that can't be tuned to run as it should!
Quote from: Magicman on April 11, 2024, 01:29:05 PMJust wait until you are told that you are too old to need anything else !! :uhoh: :wacky:
That's a bide your time statement.
Sometimes you can use it to your advantage over the same person that made it, and the time frame is very short.
GAB
Been sawing 20.5 foot logs. Put an 18 foot log on and lowered the head to add fuel. I didn't have a log in my face, so I forgot to look for the debarker hitting the log. Yep.............Bent debarker stop. Ouch.
Hey, we went 5 days without any new entries here!
Mine has looked like that for so long I thought it was how the factory built it. ffcheesy
If your's ever breaks, I can make you another one. ffcheesy