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Started by Don K, March 05, 2010, 10:07:50 PM

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west penn

 Don,  Don't know how most feel about it but have "popped "many good sized logs with a little black powder and a fuse from dixie gun works. Makes a big bang but if your log is straight grained with no big knots, it will split nearly as clean as you can do with an undersized chainsaw. I won't print the details  here but if your interested I will send my email add.

Magicman

Welcome, west penn.  Tell us a little about yourself.
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west penn

   Hi Folks, I'm writing from western pa near the ohio line bout halfway between pittsburg and erie. I've owned a woodmizer sawmill since 84 when  we bought a L t 30 with no hydraulics and in 94 purchased a Lt40 hd. I do a lot of custom sawing on weekends and also have a kiln and supply a few cabinet shops with grade lumber- oak cherry maple and some poplar ash etc. Also build a few pallets for the shop where I work during the week. Keeps me moving but I like it. My son is a cabinet maker for a local company so we are always making sawdust of some sort.

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fishpharmer

DonK, that sounds like a plan.

West Penn, welcome to Forestry Forum.   8)
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woodbe

I just picked up a White Oak that was 62" at the but and 48" at the small end  unfortunately  it is only about 7' long. We  had  a mid size track hoe and a old sky track to help with the job. Isn't it nice to have grate friends with nice toys / equipment . It was a free be from the friend with the track hoe for helping with the tree removal. We will have to rip it down to get it on my mill as well. This thing is quite heavy.  Good luck with the one you got .

Woodbe








Don K

I guess I will do it the hard way. I don't know anything about black powder and it is in a populated area. Might scare someone. ;)

Using the weight calculator and throwing in some variables, this log should weigh between 10,500 and 11,500 lbs. Biggest thing I've ever had to fool with.

Welcome to the forum west penn and woodbe.  Glad to have you both. James, I am leaning towards next Mon. Tues. if that would be better for you.

Don
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beenthere

Quote from: Don K on March 07, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
........... I don't know anything about black powder and it is in a populated area. Might scare someone. ;)

.......

Well ya could paint up a 55 gal drum, set it out by the road with a big Campbells Bean logo on it....Then when the neighbors drive by for a look they will maybe get the drift.  ;D ;D ;D ::) ::)
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Ianab

QuoteI don't know anything about black powder and it is in a populated area. Might scare someone.

Put up posters and sell tickets to watch the bang. 8) :D
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WDH

Quartersaw some 8/4.  It is hard to find.  What you don't need for your own use, you can sell on Craigslist.

I have a big cherrybark to do as well, so I will learn from your experience  ;D.  I just need a Fishpharmer with a big saw and then......
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stonebroke

Those logs sure do look like swinger logs.No moving, no rolling just cutting.

Stonebroke

barbender

A swinger does work nice on that stuff.  I have a 4' diameter white pine I need to quarter up to get on my mill, I'll just use a regular chain. I've ripped lots of logs in half with regular chain, it works fine.
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sigidi

Just to help out fellow forum members - I'll happily chuck Bo Derek over any of ya logs for free :o 8) ;D






Only thing I'd get ya to pay is our travel expenses.

But seriously you fella's with big logs sitting around, find a swinger off the forum to come over and slice 'em up for ya, but regardless put up some pics ;D ;)
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Don K

There are no swingers close to me that I know of, besides that would make it too easy.  ;D

Don
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backwoods sawyer

Same here, no swingers near by, (We are talking sawmills right?) I would gladly trade milling a deck of small logs, or other services, for someone to bust this big fir down with a swing mill. However since that has not been an option I have a 60" bar on the old saw that will get the job done.
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Don K

I went this morning and made a starting cut on the log. I had a brand new 20" Carlton bar and new Woodpro chain I ordered from Baileys during their sale last month. Cut two lightning strike pines with it yesterday. Man, I love the way a new chain cuts.  ;D

Anyway, it didn't take any time at all to rip down this log. Even went full depth down the ends. The new chain was pulling long curls out on the ends.  :) Now it will be a cinch with fishpharmers 41" bar next week. I'd say in less than a hour that baby will be laid open in 4 pieces and ready to go on the mill. Don't worry James, the big boy will get his chance to snarl through some wood.

Now I just need to find a monster white oak to saw. I ain't skeered of the big ones no more. :D :D ;D





I can't wait to saw this thing up. :)

Danny, speaking of 8/4 boards, do you saw a little over for a planed 2" board or start at 2"?

Don
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Magicman

Looking  :o good !!!  If I had cut a line that straight, I would have taken a picture too.... 8)
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metalspinner

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Mooseherder

Quote from: Magicman on March 09, 2010, 03:23:30 PM
Looking  :o good !!!  If I had cut a line that straight, I would have taken a picture too.... 8)

That line is amazingly straight. ;)

Norm


footer


WDH

Beautiful job, Don  8).

On my LT15, I use the magnetic standard scale and just drop down two 4/4 cuts for 8/4.  Since the middle cut on the scale is skipped (remember, you dropped down two cuts on the 4/4 scale), the 1/8" kerf from the 4/4 cut that was not made adds 1/8" to the board, yielding a thickness of 2 & 1/8".  I do it that way because it is easy  :).  With your fancy accuset, you are not as scale challenged as I am  ;D.
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Don K

Nice looking log, footer. Thanks Danny.

Don
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Dodgy Loner

I'm with Danny- I just skip a setting on the 4/4 scale to saw 8/4. That way, it doesn't screw with the thickness of the cant. If I skipped around between different scales while sawing the cant down, I would either have to plan way ahead (ha!) or end up with an odd-thickness dog board (which is what would actually happen :)).
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Magicman

Anytime I'm sawing say, 4/4 and the customer wants an 8/4, I just drop the Setworks down two times.  I tell the customer that it will be 1/8th thicker,  and they are always agreeable.  As DL said....keeps from messing stuff up..... ;D
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bill m

We don't see oak that big growing out in the woods very often is these parts. This is one I cut on my job this winter.


We only cut a little bit of the fair Oak and hardwood this winter. If the price comes back we will be cutting the good Oak next winter.
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