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Started by barbender, June 22, 2022, 10:04:57 PM

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barbender

Ok, I'm trying to ID this small hardwood that I often find growing on the old windrows of debris in pine plantations. It usually only gets to 6-8" diameter before it dies. One forester told me it was tag alder, but I'm kind of wondering if it is cherry? We are outside of cherry's range, but it is common in Southeast MN and Wisconsin. Anyways, I had a stick I noticed when I was processing firewood tonight, so I thought I'd see if anyone could ID it from my severely aged and degraded specimen😁


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barbender

Hmm, I seem to be experiencing some technical difficulties. Let's try again-





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Southside

That bark is identical to the poor, small, twisted, field edge, Cherry I see around here.  
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Don P

I see the lenticels but alder and cherry aren't ring porous  ???

WDH

Cherry can have one row of larger earlywood pores that give it the appearance of being ring porous, but it technically diffuse porous.  It certainly looks like black cherry to me. 
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Clark

We aren't out of the biological range of black cherry but we are far from the economic range! Black cherry, paper birch and balsam poplar are the three species I would name as most common in a pine stand windrow. I have seen exactly one black cherry in northern MN that was 14" DBH otherwise they tend to bend over from snow and not recover. 6" is a more common max diameter.

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barbender

Thanks Clark. I have a couple that might be 9" I'm going to saw up for the heck of it.
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SwampDonkey

Black cherry, the kind of junk we grow up here after the monkey bears, moose and black knot have a run at it. ;D :D

I've got pin cherry big enough to saw up here. Most places it's destroyed by the moose. I just cut a block with the clearing saw and I mowed down a bunch of it. It's a hard wood for a tree that will put on 6' in 3 months, harder than red maple, but lighter wood. :D
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thecfarm

Sounds like the cherry that I have here. Does not get that big and grows crooked.
Am clearing a place now and found 2 there. I left them to watch them grow and grow crooked and then die. 
Then the stumps will last 50 years too!!! Still solid when I dig them out.
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