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Title: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: blaze83 on November 22, 2020, 10:40:54 AM
Hi Everyone,

been away for along time (years) but am hoping someone might now how I can get a replacement motor for a steel city table saw. I know they went out of business in 2015, haven't had any luck finding parts
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 22, 2020, 11:21:10 AM
I believe the Steel city saws were made in Taiwan just like a lot of other saws.  You may be able to cross reference your model with something like a current grizzly and be able to use parts from grizzly.  What model do you have?
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 22, 2020, 11:24:33 AM
Did you try this number?  They may have discontinued it.   877-724-8665 
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: blaze83 on November 22, 2020, 05:29:43 PM
Thanks for the ideas, I'll see what I can track down tomorrow.
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: sawwood on November 22, 2020, 06:03:01 PM
 American Grinding in Kansas City Mo was a Steel dealer. They may have some parts left over.

 816 561 1776.

 Sawwood
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: sawguy21 on November 22, 2020, 08:11:10 PM
Is it direct or belt drive?
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: kantuckid on November 27, 2020, 08:13:53 AM
Google images shows a fairly conventional electric motor using the saws name? 
Ebay is your answer if your a tightwad buyer like myself? FB marketplace & CL too.
The mfg is the last place I'd look, other than the specs which are on your motor.   
 
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: woodworker9 on December 03, 2020, 08:57:23 PM
If you pull the motor, or take a picture of the tag, it'll have the ratings of the motor, and also the Frame type.  You can purchase any motor you want that has the same rpm's and frame mount.  A slightly bigger hp motor is never a bad thing.  

Depending on the frame mount, there are literally hundreds of thousands of table saw motors floating around.

Post a picture of your tag, and I'll help you find a good replacement.
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: kantuckid on December 04, 2020, 10:16:23 AM
Much depends on sealed vs. un-sealed if a woodworking tool motor. My 8" jointer has a motor that weighs more than a kindergarden kid and huge but only 1HP. It lives under the machine in a relatively clean place and has been happily churning away for a very long time in my use alone, not to mention my GF who used it before me. It may belong in the Smithsonian? ;D Seriously. 
My Delta bandsaw is a 14" USA built one bought new in 1974. I think it's on the 4th motor, some bought much less $$$ as not the exact right choice for sawdust exposure but cheaply bought. They cam with ~ 1/2 or 3/4 motors but I like a 1 or 1.5 in modern motors which never seem to live up to their ratings? 
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: Pfordhp2b on January 19, 2023, 06:17:51 PM
I'm wondering if anyone can help me with this. I've got a 10" steel city table saw that one of the capacitors went bad on. I don't use the sew but the guys that work for me do, so I don't know a lot about them. One capacitor was melted so I order 2 just to be safe. I replaced both and the motor seemed to be spinning correctly. Once the guys hooked it back up it ran hot and the motor itself started to smoke. Upon doing some research I've learned that there are many different options and if you don't get the correct ones you can overload the motor. Below is a picture of the tag on the motor any help with the type of capacitors I need to order would be greatly appreciated. (https://forestryforum.com/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblob%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fforestryforum.com%2Fc2b96a9e-92ef-460d-a9f8-aa0b49c52a16&hash=40acf64c2364f7efbc5b889d1b8a01049c5864b7)
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: sawguy21 on January 19, 2023, 06:58:51 PM
I hate to say it but if the smoke got out the stator winding is burnt out. Best option is to replace the motor with a NEMA certified closed frame unit.
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: rusticretreater on January 19, 2023, 07:32:02 PM
I do not see a motor tag picture with your posting.

Yeah, the capacitors are important for start-up and then continual operation.  There is usually a start up capacitor and an run capacitor.  They are not the same.  When you say the capacitor was melted I can only say...how much?  Most capacitors will bulge, split or leak oil, but rarely melt severely.

If the motor is fairly old and has seen a rough life, you are better off getting a new one.  Electrical items that get to smoking temps don't live long afterwards.
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: btulloh on January 19, 2023, 07:36:35 PM
Probably a shorted winding made that cap go bad. Definitely new motor time. 

You should be able to find out the NEMA frame # and buy one easy enough.  That frame type is used on a lot of things and widely available from many sources. Just match the NEMA frame #, voltage, hp and you'll be good to go. Make sure it's a TEFC motor (totally enclosed fan cooled). 
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: Pfordhp2b on January 20, 2023, 08:22:58 AM
Thank you all for the responses. Sounds like I'm in need of a new motor:)
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: Don P on January 20, 2023, 09:50:13 AM
It's always more fun if you put a big block in a Vega. Having put a 5 horse on a craftsman 10", it was unstoppable but the bearings and trunnion were not happy. The oem motors on most saws are wimpy for rough hardwoods. There is no replacement for displacement but watch the weight if you upgrade.
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: low_48 on January 20, 2023, 05:48:06 PM
Centrifugal start switch in the motor could be stuck.
Title: Re: motor for steel city table saw
Post by: sawguy21 on January 20, 2023, 08:23:37 PM
Those motors are not worth repairing, the smoke escaped.