truck carry capacities

bill m · September 25, 2011, 02:51:40 PM

Where did you find an F-250 with a 10000 lb. gvw? I have never heard of one.

Ironwood · September 25, 2011, 09:07:08 PM

Boy that is interesting, ran my old F-550 100,000 miles not one issue. Ran 12-13K empty, and ,well loaded..........heavy. Ran Hankok, Michelin, Bridgestone, retreads on back sometimes, NEVER and issue. What brand do you run? I LOVE 19.5's

Interesting. Ironwood

pineywoods · September 25, 2011, 09:27:05 PM

Quote from: Ironwood on September 25, 2011, 09:07:08 PM
Boy that is interesting, ran my old F-550 100,000 miles not one issue. Ran 12-13K empty, and ,well loaded..........heavy. Ran Hankok, Michelin, Bridgestone, retreads on back sometimes, NEVER and issue. What brand do you run? I LOVE 19.5's

Interesting. Ironwood

The rv came with a full set of kelly tires. 30,000miles later, only 1 of the 6 still usable, and I keep it as a spare. Hankok, michelin, remington, so far no problem with bridgestone. Maybe I'm doing something wrong ?

Ironwood · September 25, 2011, 09:44:00 PM

I cannot imagine anything you are doing wrong. Aliginment good? Tracking? Was the unit bought new? Perhaps it has a frame/tracking issue? 35' is BIG, you must be running them near capacity at all times? That is ALOT of RV to be sure.

Your down south, perhaps more HOT, HOT pavement affecting wear???? You got me, but I have never heard of issues of 19.5" tires wearing overly quick. I ran Kelley Steers one time, later made them into retreads. I had a Detroit Locker put in my 550 and so it did tear up rears, but sometimes it felt like you "ran over a dog" when cornering, but that is to be expected with a locking diff. Have you tried any of the RV forums to pose the question/ issue? Perhaps it is inherent to the RV, ie height (slightly top heavy), squirm etc...???

Ironwood

Bobus2003 · September 25, 2011, 11:07:44 PM

Quote from: Ironwood on September 23, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
Your just not loading it heavy enough :D ;D. I have had them on two other 550's and like them. If yours is a 4x4 I will trade you my axles and rims for yours 8) I already swapped out the rear springs and mounts to the F-450 version.

Ironwood

She's a 4x4, and i think thats where most my ride issues comes in.. went and test drove a '07 F550 2wd and it had a much better ride

Quote from: bill m on September 25, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
Where did you find an F-250 with a 10000 lb. gvw? I have never heard of one.

My old '99 F250 Super Duty had a GVW of 9900lbs, When i bought my '06 F350 I bought it with the 11,500lbs GVW package

jesse · September 25, 2011, 11:52:15 PM

06 f250 ext. cab short bed 9800 g.v.w

maple flats · September 27, 2011, 07:28:33 PM

Quote from: bill m on September 25, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
Where did you find an F-250 with a 10000 lb. gvw? I have never heard of one.

One dealer I looked at locally had a F350 and an F250, both 2005's with 6L diesels. The tag on the door of the 250 said 10,000 GVW and max rear of 6100#. The 350 door tag read 11,700 GVW and 7000# rear. I just assumed this was some sort of std range. I did see, in various brands, but mostly Fords 250's from the low of 8800 that I bought up to the 10,000. Some were in between those extremes. Is the 10,000 unusual for a 250?

Ironwood · September 27, 2011, 08:53:22 PM

I would say it is unusual. As you stated it is likely the brakes. Erring to a 10" or bigger. I do know that at least the 7.3 engine is much heavier than the gasser, by how much I dont know. That alone would need a bump in GVW to keep the same cargo carrying capacity.

On the plus side, I hear rumblings of anything over 10K GVW will need BI-ANNUAL inspection at some point in the near future. Yet another hassle. So, if your under 10K you will be exempted at least for some time in Pa. I dunno if that is driven by Fed's or not. :

Ironwood

bill m · September 27, 2011, 08:56:58 PM

Everything 10000 lbs. and over need a dot number and inspection.

Ironwood · September 27, 2011, 09:00:09 PM

I should qualify, exempted from a Bi-Annual, but you still need a regular annual inspection.

Ironwood

Dave Shepard · September 27, 2011, 09:28:20 PM

The Bosch VP44 is a good pump, it is the lift pump that is on the left side of the block that kills them. The LP dies, and the VP44 does not receive enough fuel to cool itself, as 70% of the fuel pumped by the LP is for cooling. A rebuilt VP44 with core is about $1200, and takes an hour and a half to replace.

Bobus2003 · September 27, 2011, 11:39:11 PM

Quote from: Ironwood on September 27, 2011, 08:53:22 PM
I would say it is unusual. As you stated it is likely the brakes. Erring to a 10" or bigger. I do know that at least the 7.3 engine is much heavier than the gasser, by how much I dont know. That alone would need a bump in GVW to keep the same cargo carrying capacity.

On the plus side, I hear rumblings of anything over 10K GVW will need BI-ANNUAL inspection at some point in the near future. Yet another hassle. So, if your under 10K you will be exempted at least for some time in Pa. I dunno if that is driven by Fed's or not. :

Ironwood

6.0l PSD 960lbs w/fluids
7.3l Weighs around 925lbs Dry weight
V10 Weighs around 500lbs Dry

Ironwood · September 28, 2011, 09:11:50 AM

Thanks, Ironwood

maple flats · September 29, 2011, 07:44:30 PM

I picked up my F250 yesterday. '01, 4x4 super cab Diesel. This is not my first F250 supercab but it has been several years. The seat sure feels harder than my last one.
The GVW is tagged at 8800#. I'll go get each ax weighed soon for planning purposes. I'm thinking I might be best by far to get a 7 ton gooseneck equipment trailer as soon as I can. That will haul the most by far with this rig. The owners manual says it is good up to 13,300# max trailer if 5th wheel. My guess is that gooseneck will be the same since the load point is exactly the same. In fact I ordered a rail kit designed specifically for my model, with 1 pc frame brackets that bolt to the side of the frame, no drilling and the rails mount to those. This rail system has a companion gooseneck mount to haul them too. Might end up going 1 season with just a p/u tank in the back and then get the trailer, because I have already invested over $20,000 for my maple expansion this year and I will need some cash flow before I proceed further. Man, this hobby costs a lot, syrup aught to be $250/gal or more.

Polly · October 19, 2011, 11:43:33 AM

:D :D i got 2 class 6 trucks with 19.5 tires no problem except the replacement cost china brand starts at 260.00 and everything else is 300.00 on up the new diesel trucks with the new pollution systems acording to a techinal bulletin i just finished reading will run fine for off road use without the factory muffler and fuel additaves or other stuf is not required ;) ;) 8)

ScottAR · October 19, 2011, 07:16:20 PM

Some F250s came with a "payload" package. This basicly makes it a F350 single tire like mine. My reg. cab f350 single tire has 9,999 on the door.

Ironwood · October 19, 2011, 08:57:17 PM

I dont know what is going on here but I am finding 19.5" "pull off" tires at my two local commercial shops for dirt cheap. They just keep showing up and I cant pass up the deals. 25-$50. They used my fork truck for 4 hours when their's broke down, got 3 brand new 19.5's for my loaning it to them. They were old stock from someone else's inventory not theirs, they bought the inventory lock-stock-barrel so i got them for just the use of my machine. If it keeps up I'll be in the 19.5" tire business :D ;D. All tires are only going up and up in cost. I run fresh retreads in the winter on my 550 then switch to summer "pull offs", my 19.5" Rickson steel bud rims for my 350 need to get ordered quick, snow is coming.

Ironwood

JHBC · October 19, 2011, 08:58:10 PM

There are so many different towing and payload packages now. I have a new Dodge 3500 non-dual rated at 10,100. That puts it in the class 3, the same as the F-450 pickups? Where I work, two of the trucks that get the most use for hauling equipment etc., are a '98 Dodge 3500, and a '97 F-450, both with 5-speeds and 10' decks. I don't know what the payload or tow ratings are, but it doesn't seem to matter, they do the trick.

Some newer trucks like the F-550 can tow over 26,000 without being overweight. Pretty nice.

snowstorm · October 20, 2011, 05:58:08 AM

for you f550 onwers. fill me in the bad ect.just bought one 04 4x4 6.0 6 sp . so far so good. looked at quite a few most had rust problems .

sprucebunny · October 20, 2011, 08:30:59 AM

The bad ??? Transmission ( 6sp. manual) housing broke where it attaches to the frame on my '00 F450. I've been waiting for the guy to weld it for months. Also needs new bearings on the trans output shaft. Less than 60k miles.
Not much holding the trans and motor in the truck considering the available torque. Not any heavier mounting than a F250 or 350.

Love 7.3 PSDs. Also have the naturally aspirated 7.3 in a 1990 truck. Very easy to work on but not as much power.

Polly · October 20, 2011, 10:40:02 AM

8)ironwood please e mail me the address of the tire dealer that has new 245x70rx19.5 new tires for sale ,i just purchased two used ones out of kansas for 350.00 anyone need some that wont pass dot i got a couple that would run on log trailer i will give away thanks ron ;) 8)

Ironwood · October 20, 2011, 04:55:42 PM

I need to buy a few more first

. He has 6 Roadmasters 190's with block tread 225's and a set of 4 Hercules block tread 225's. I will see what I can do fer ya, shipping might be costly though.

Ironwood

mooleycow · October 20, 2011, 08:40:02 PM

got 96 dodge cummins, 12 valve, no glow plugs. put a bulldog transmisson and increased the size of the intake and exhaust pipes, no stacks, 2wd. the injector by bosch p pump will put out enough fuel for an 1800 hp engine. will run, will pull, about 20 to 23 mpg, just looks like any old truck, used to pull 28ft steel horse trailer with 3 horses, no trouble. This is the type of truck used on the drag strip in creswell North Carolina to outrun mustangs and coorvettes and some euro cars.

JHBC · October 20, 2011, 11:01:22 PM

Mooleycow, I like the sounds of that truck. Nothing like a straight forward 90's Cummins for reliability and long life. I also have to say I do think the 6.0 Fords may have a bad rap, judging by the thousands being used in forestry and mining, IMO they are in more of the trucks I see, than any other.

Also I thought I may have been wrong about the new F-550, but no, 35000 CGVW, and 26000 trailer weight! A pickup sized rig to pull a tandem dually gooseneck.

Bobus2003 · October 23, 2011, 12:43:43 PM

Quote from: JHBC on October 20, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
Mooleycow, I like the sounds of that truck. Nothing like a straight forward 90's Cummins for reliability and long life. I also have to say I do think the 6.0 Fords may have a bad rap, judging by the thousands being used in forestry and mining, IMO they are in more of the trucks I see, than any other.

Also I thought I may have been wrong about the new F-550, but no, 35000 CGVW, and 26000 trailer weight! A pickup sized rig to pull a tandem dually gooseneck.

The 6.0l did get a bad rap and almost killed the diesel market for Ford.. for every good 6.0, there are 2 with problems (Or so it seems) I know of many 6.0's that were good trucks and I know many that are crap (I had a crap one). Alot of guys that used to be die hard Ford guys have switched to Chevy or Dodge. The 6.0l is easy to make reliable though.. just takes some $$$