accuset vs. accuset2

rooster 58 · January 04, 2013, 06:51:42 PM

Hey guys, thanks for puttin up with this new fellar :laugh: I mentioned in another thread that I just purchased an 05 LT70 with the basic accuset. I was wondering whether I should run it for awhile to see how it performs or if I should upgrade now to avoid production issues later on. The mill only has 198 hrs. on it Thanks for all your help, Scott

barbender · January 04, 2013, 06:56:59 PM

What year did WM go to the Accuset 2? I thought an 05 would have it.

customsawyer · January 04, 2013, 07:02:17 PM

I have an 05 LT70, WM replaced my accuset1 with the accuset2 free of charge. I never had a problem with the accuset1 that I remember but since they sent me the part I put it on. I would run the mill the way it is till it starts to give problems.

terrifictimbersllc · January 04, 2013, 07:07:16 PM

Accuset 2 is a substantial improvement over "1" in a number of ways including how fast it finds the setting and easier programming. I would talk to WM to get their opinion and to see if they can do anything for you on an upgrade. Since you're at the beginning of things with this mill you might find it well worth upgrading.

rooster 58 · January 04, 2013, 07:19:41 PM

Thanks guys. I spoke to Marty at WM. He did not think it would be covered, even with the low hrs. I didn't try to talk to Indy yet, if that would make a difference. Hopefully, they will because it's right around 2400.00 to upgrade

Bibbyman · January 04, 2013, 07:43:18 PM

The old Accuset is not nearly as good as Accuset 2. But is still a very useful system. If it is in good working order and works for you, I'd keep it and use it. Just kept in mind that if one of the unique parts fail, you'll need to upgrade.

terrifictimbersllc · January 04, 2013, 07:48:13 PM

You could probably keep Accuset 1 going for years, lots of us have these after upgrading, mine is in the garage rafters. If you decide to keep it, and need replacement parts sometime, let me know.

Bibbyman · January 04, 2013, 09:04:27 PM

I turned a box of parts over to the WM field service center so maybe someone else could possibly keep their old Accuset going. But is the boards have set around for years, I'd suspect they would go bad.

Magicman · January 04, 2013, 09:21:56 PM

I am of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" school. You can replace and learn #2 when #1 fails.

I am still running SetWorks, and will until it fails.

rooster 58 · January 04, 2013, 09:29:30 PM

Thanks again for the input. I'm of the same notion to let er rip :D I just hope it hasn't gone bad from setting so long. It sounds like it's been several years since it was used. I flew down to see it before buying, however they had no logs to saw as it was at a broker's complex

drobertson · January 04, 2013, 09:33:17 PM

Scott, run what you have and see what you have. There are minor differences between the two. Not worth the cost until you know. There are features on the original I really liked. If you have to make the change, there is no real change in the navigation of the software, david

rooster 58 · January 04, 2013, 09:34:01 PM

Oh, and terriffictimbers, thanks for the offer of the parts. It's really nice to know there are folks out there whom are so willing to help. Hopefully, I'll be able to pay it forward one day ;)

gmmills · January 06, 2013, 09:23:26 PM

At the least I would purchase the upgrade kit to have on hand. It is not the issue of if the accuset 1 will fail it is when. :( :( :( It will usually give you no warning at all. You may just turn on the key one morning and the system will have failed. You will lose a minimum of two days production waiting on the parts to arrive then installing them. It can take at least 1/2 a day to install the accuset 2 upgrade kit. My mill is exactly the same year of LT70 as yours and has over 7300 hrs on it. Accuset 2 upgrade was installed in 2007 and has been a definite positive improvement.

I would also suggest that you exchange the main fuse block assembly with the new upgraded version. The old fuse block has heat related contact issues. The nylock nuts that secure the fuse plates to the block get hot enough to melt the nylon and they become loose. This can cause some real electrical issues with the setworks.

Bogue Chitto · January 06, 2013, 09:47:46 PM

#1 failed on me about a year ago. Woodmizer replaced with #2 and I think it is much better than 1. I put the unit in myself with no problems.

Bibbyman · January 07, 2013, 03:23:19 AM

Quote from: gmmills on January 06, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
At the least I would purchase the upgrade kit to have on hand. It is not the issue of if the accuset 1 will fail it is when. :( :( :(

I'd think about thats. That would be a big investment in something to knock around. I suspect there is a warranty that would start as soon as it was bought. Say you bought an upgrade and had it a year before installing it. And then there is a problem. What then?

Also, if you decided to hold onto the old Accuset until death do you part and then upgrade, you'll get the very latest version if you wait to order when it fails.

UPS is ony one day away if you have to get back up and running that soon. No more than a few regular ground service.

jcbrotz · January 07, 2013, 04:49:17 AM

Quote from: gmmills on January 06, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
At the least I would purchase the upgrade kit to have on hand. It is not the issue of if the accuset 1 will fail it is when. :( :( :( It will usually give you no warning at all. You may just turn on the key one morning and the system will have failed. You will lose a minimum of two days production waiting on the parts to arrive then installing them. It can take at least 1/2 a day to install the accuset 2 upgrade kit. My mill is exactly the same year of LT70 as yours and has over 7300 hrs on it. Accuset 2 upgrade was installed in 2007 and has been a definite positive improvement.

I would also suggest that you exchange the main fuse block assembly with the new upgraded version. The old fuse block has heat related contact issues. The nylock nuts that secure the fuse plates to the block get hot enough to melt the nylon and they become loose. This can cause some real electrical issues with the setworks.

No way would I purchase it and just hold on it, you would lose the warrantee and risk damage. I have had my fair share of accuset 1 issues and am happy with accuset 2 but if it aint broke don't fix it! It takes no more than a half hour to get the mill running after your accuset fails I just moved the motor leads from the accuset and installed them on the up/down switch and was sawing with in minutes, Never tell a electrician he cant make a motor run, especially when woodmizer give you such nice prints. The fuses just check them every couple hundred hours and you should have no problem but the new ones are much more robust.

Magicman · January 07, 2013, 07:11:04 AM

I agree with Bibby. In Reply #8 I stated that I am still running SetWorks that was pre-Accuset 1.

If it ain't broke, I don't fix it, but for sure, new is better. Just do what your billfold says.

jdonovan · January 08, 2013, 02:36:47 AM

Quote from: rooster 58 on January 04, 2013, 07:19:41 PM
Thanks guys. I spoke to Marty at WM. He did not think it would be covered, even with the low hrs. I didn't try to talk to Indy yet, if that would make a difference. Hopefully, they will because it's right around 2400.00 to upgrade

I had a similar machine and it wasn't covered. =(

I went with the upgrade. Everyone agrees the accuset 1 WILL fail. When it does you're down for days if you do the install yourself. Perhaps more if you have to wait for field service, or have to drag the mill up to Marty's shop.

I figured murphy would cause the accuset to fail at the most inopportune time, so I upgraded while marty was doing some other fix up work. Love accuset2.

MartyParsons · January 08, 2013, 07:04:32 AM

Hello,
The Accuset 1 boards (face plates) are different between a command mill and a walk mill. There were many changes through the years also. 3.05 revision seemed to work the best.
Accuset 2 is much more relieable! The fuse block is something that should be addressed at the same time.
Thanks
Marty