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My Master Bedroom Floor Project
« on: October 12, 2021, 03:39:16 PM »
The wife said she wanted the carpet gone and hardwood put it.  I wasn't about to buy hardwood flooring, so I am making it.  There will be a little of every hardwood I can get my hands on.  So far I have made flooring boards with maple, spalted maple, walnut, quarter sawn white oak, red oak, jatoba(I didn't mill it, but I had it), sassafras, and cherry.  There will be elm in it before I'm done, but its still in the kiln.  I had this idea, but then found that member @tacks Y had done the same thing.  I've been picking his brain for a little bit of insight.  I will have 2", 3" and 4" wide boards.  With doing it that way, the amount of waste has been very minimal so far.  I'm loving turning some of the ugliest lumber I have yet produced into awesome flooring.  It's amazing what the jointer, planer and table saw can do for some warped boards.  I bought a small shaper and some Amana t&g bits to make the flooring, plus a power feeder to help save my hands and shoulders.  I feel like I'm producing the flooring quicker than I expected, so maybe be done making enough in a few weeks.  I have some really nice quarter sawn walnut that is about 7' long and about 7" wide in the kiln.  It is about half heart and half sap.  I'm thinking about using that to make a 6" wide border around the room and then fill in with the t&g.  It looks good in my head.

 

 

 

 

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2021, 06:53:35 PM »
What did you go with on the power feeder?  I want one but don't want to take out a second mortgage for it.

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2021, 07:01:26 PM »
This is gonna be awesome if its even close to the results @tacks Y got.  Looking forward to progress photos
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2021, 07:14:30 PM »
 @Wudman I bought the Grizzly baby feeder.  I think it was $400

 @VB-Milling that's exactly what I'm hoping for too.  I have to find a good waterbased finish for the floor.  
Not gonna deal with smelly oil based finish in the house.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2021, 08:02:52 PM »
I used a 2-part "street shoe" finish when I did my floors.  

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One thing that makes installing and sanding easier is to pay close attention to the thickness and the tongue and groove setup.   If you can the set up very flush, you'll sand a lot less.  
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2021, 08:43:08 PM »
Thanks, I'll look into the street shoe.  The link says that there is a supply chain issue, surprise, surprise.
I saved one of the first pieces that I made and am using it as a jig to set up the bits each time I change to help keep the alignment good.  So far the alignment seems to be staying very close.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2021, 09:04:15 PM »
I had someone run my flooring through a 4 sided planer, the edges were off about 1/32, that was a lot of sanding to get it worked out.

Since then, I did a setup with a shaper and feeder, consistent board width and straight edges help too. 

The floor I did received compliments from the professional installer, apparently a lot of homemade flooring runs suffer from quality control. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2021, 09:10:16 PM »
No doubt the flatness of the stock affects quality of the flooring.  Most of what I'm making I'm face jointing and edge jointing one side before I rip it to width.  Only the quarter sawn WO that I have is flat enough not to need it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2021, 07:43:11 AM »
I've installed miles of hardwood flooring (real, not engineered) back when I was in the trades.

The sanding process and the finish application really makes or breaks the project.

Don't shoot the messenger, but it may be worth considering hiring that part out  :o

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2021, 08:20:13 AM »
I did all of mine, rented a drum sander, then an orbital sander.  Wife wanted the floor stained, so I did it, and could see the track where I walked the running orbital sander from one room to another to touch up a spot....

So I got to start over with the drum....

Second time around, I finished with a sheet of sand paper attached to a broom stick, and "hand sanded the whole floor".  The water based finish dries fast and doesn't level like an oil based finish.  I ended up with a few streaks at the end where I had to meet in the middle of the room. 

I've only done this once, your mileage may vary. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2021, 09:36:35 AM »
My entire house is wide board oak flooring done by yours truly. Old part of house is what's called "reject export oak" which is KD and rejected after the kiln for export-usually knots, or slightly thin. Newer timberframe room is my own oak off this land where we live-it's mixed white and red oak.  I also made a house full for a guy who ran an ad saying he was selling chestnut barn boards. Turned out none of it was chestnut but I stupidly agreed to make him flooring form his oak. My pricing was too low.
For my off-grid cabin I plan to do similar to firefighters floor and tap into my wood stash.  I have a huge bunch of pre blight chestnut that is old and beautiful but lacks worm holes so I've passed it by for furniture so far. That chestnut and some walnut, cherry and maple will become my cabins floors. 
   
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2021, 10:30:36 AM »
Im just flooring a room that is about 14x16.  Im looking at a few products for it.  One says it is specially made to make it easy for quick application, preventing lines.  Im going to buy a 6 orbital sander to sand the floor.  It shouldnt take much, but I cant rule out a few bad/uneven spots.  This is a log home, so some imperfections in the floor will not bother us at all.  I will never use a floor drum sander again.  It left all kinds of snipe in the main floor for the house.  I finished that whole floor with a 4 brush.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2021, 07:37:38 AM »
 A few yrs ago I made a floor same as what your talking about FFOTS. I cut the trees sawed the logs to boards had them kiln dried and paid to have it run thru a 4 s planer.



 

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2021, 07:44:33 AM »
That looks great Ed.  I like the colors of that floor.  Nice and warm.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2021, 11:54:55 AM »
 Thanks FFOTS.

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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2021, 10:52:59 AM »
Great project!  As long as the wife is happy at the end you can then claim success!   The power feed looks like a great addition for the shaper.  

Do you plan to get a cyclone for your dust collector or is the filter doing ok and not filling up too quickly?  What HP is the motor on your grizzly blower?

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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2021, 08:11:28 PM »
The power feeder has been a hand saver for sure.  I will not hook up a cyclone for the DC.  I believe this is a 1 1/2 horse grizzly that I had and got out of storage for this project.  The filter does a good job and has a little handle that you turn and it knocks dust off the inside of the filter.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2021, 08:38:48 PM »
I am just going to follow along. I have just finnished having my flooring sent to a nearby mill. I  did about 2000 sq ft of cherry walnut popple/cotton wood and pine.  the sawing and KD. I am still deciding if I will install and finnish.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2021, 11:24:11 PM »
 @Stephen1 I'll continue to update as I go thru the process.  Today I didn't do much, but I did process some boards that I found while putting my new compressor in place.  I found some white oak boards and some pieces of sweetgum.  The sweetgum will be some pretty pieces.
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Re: My Master Bedroom Floor Project
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2021, 12:47:40 PM »
Our Lowes here used to rent a Varathane floor sanding machine that I've used a couple of times.  I'm not sure if they still do, since I haven't been down that aisle in recent memory.

That machine has three 6" random orbit heads, and is Very heavy.

If they have one near you, I highly recommend it over a handheld sander.

If they do have one available, I can give some more tips on it.  I did a 16x20 room in the last addition on our house with it.

I owned a big drum sander, and used if for a few decades on the new houses I used to build, but sold it as quick as I could when I saw the first fancy belt floor sander.  After that, I paid a couple of young guys to come sand my floors 75 cents a foot, and I finished them.

edited to add:   Here's what the Varathane sander is like:   https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-203939-Varathane-Finish-Sander/dp/B0078IUXO0/ref=asc_df_B0078IUXO0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309813767497&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5591489085687745109&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009786&hvtargid=pla-569553492669&psc=1


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