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Looking into possibly looking at a c6 tree farmer it's a older model. Looking to get info on them as far as the good and bad things about them.

What engine-tranny setup does it have?

C5-D , C6,  basically the same issues as your ole Bone.

Find out what motor, and tran, tire size

Not sure what trans it has but it has a detroit and 18.4x34 with chains on all four.

example, i just looked at a C5D on C'S L, rebuilt big Ford Diesel, rebuilt winch, rebuilt transfer case, tires good, good looking skidder, asking 7,000., they got it listed as a C4D, i don't like that dent in the pipe.

That C6 is most likely was a 453, but might be a 353



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find you a good running clark, they are tough, easy to operate, very stable, parts are reasonable, you will not have winch trouble, the only thing with the older clarks, are the old dry brakes, might convert the parking brake over to a disk, n your good to go, I had a 666 b with a cummins, now I  have a 65 f, I love em, wish they would still make em,  I always get a kick out of people, they ask you, what kind of skidder you got,     clark  they look at you kind of funny, then they start talking about there timberjack, which has a clark winch, clark rearends, n some of em clark transmissions, :D this is just my opinion, i"v runem al,l there really all good machines, main thing is the guy running them, but where I live we need good brakes, n the older stickshift machines with dry brakes, just do not work, a good way to get killed, hope you find a good one, just take your time, there outthere n dont be afraid to travel for the right machine, when you find it you will be partners

I'm with lumberjack48,18.4/34 is not what should be on it for tires,usually larger ones like 23.1/26 or 24.5/32 .They normally had a 453 Detroit or a 6 cylinder Deutz .Overall there great machines only for having a Gearmatic winch. 

All good opinions and info guys! The one I'm interested in is listed on vermonts CL it's the c6 listed on july 13 Hartford NY. Havent called on it yet to get the full scoop on it. Waiting to see what happens with mine first.

Regarding the comments about the old clark skidders. I worked for Clark as service rep in Southeast. You are right about the brakes. If you have hilly terain, look for old 667,they had wet disc brake and parking brake on the back of the 28000 transmission, flat land or swamps, might not be an issue. The other advantage of the trans brake is that it is protected from debris. Trash in a dry driveline brake can start a fire, need to keep it cleaned out.

I don't like the color, looks more like a C5-D, has the same planetary's as a C5-D. I can't see the exhaust pipe real good, but looks to big for a Deutz, or Perkins. i believe is a 45-3 Detroit.
Skidder looks good, paint can cover up a lot of problems, I'd have to abuse it for about an hour, driving full throttle though all the gears, dosing, winching, some dealers didn't like my road test, when others would say go for it, its a good machine. My father got embarrenest when i was trying out a C5-D with the big Ford diesel for him. I pushed snow for about 1/2 an-hour full throttle, winched some old equipment around, this was at Treefarmer Sales here in Bemidji. I got off poped the hood to check for any blow-by in the motor, leaks and ect. I turned to dad, an said its a good one buy it, i think he ran that skidder 15 yrs, never had a major issue with it.

I know what most on here think about Gearmatic winches, i used-em 28 yrs, besides putting bands in a couple of-em, rebuilding the master control, putting a live swivel on one. Its the only winch i'd want, just being i know how simple they operate. The model 20 Can-Car would start to act up, i'd pull the cover, blow it out, check clearance on shoes, make sure brake band was releasing properly. Put the cover back on, it worked perfectly, i didn't do nothing to it, about every 3 months it did this.

My father and me rented a C6 one winter, we were falling behind with the one skidder. The snow was 4' deep in the swamp and the winter was getting short. It had a 6 cylinder Perkins with a Alison power shift. It was different to run the fuel petal was on the left had side, with a power shift this works out very good, you can hold the brake and step on the throttle at the same time. My S8 IH  had the throttle petal on the right hand side with the brake on the left hand side.
The C6 was a good machine, the only thing we weren't used dumping 30 plus gals of fuel a day in a skidder, she was a thirsty one.

If i was going logging i'd offer 5 k for the one in the picture, that would be a good buy.

Thats a old one. Has the round pipe risers on it. Im with lumberjack it must be a Detroit. I have a Duetz 6cyl in my C7D and the nose is longer and the exhaust is midway up the hood. Mine has a clark powershift with a torque converter. Has 23.1-26 tires. It'll pull one heck of a hitch. Easy on fuel too. I burn less than 15 gallons in a ten hour day.

my c6 is a great machine. it is a perfect machine to me. they usually have a 453 or 453T or a 6 cyl deutz, with a 4 speed NP 542 trans. with either a gearmatic 19 or can car 20 winch, i prefer the can car.

tf87 you still have a bad taste in your mouth because of all the trouble with the C5-B you had. Like i've said before it was a C4 with a 353 Detroit, way to light if used hard in big wood. A C5-B isn't half the machine a C5-D is, i've ran-em side by side. The reason i stayed with a C5-D is about 75% of my jobs were selective cut, a C6 is more of a clear cut skidder.
Don't get me wrong the C5-B is a good skidder, there was a reason it was called a pulpwood special.

it was a good skidder, i miss it sometimes. honestly my favorite is a c5D. its just the right size. but i will never get rid of my c6. i love the power and how much wood i can move with it. it handles those grade logs effortlessly. :)

Glad you like your c6 it's a nice looking machine. As far as the color on the one in NY it's not the color of the machine that gets the wood out and it may be old but it's a working machine.

Theres nothing wrong with old machines as long as they've been taken care of. My Timberjack that burned was a '66. Id still be running it if it didnt burn. Look it over real good before you commit to it.

What ever I do go to look at I will test it very throughly!

I bought a bran new working machine [ $80,000.00 ] i ran it about a month and the motor dropped a valve.

Some times even a new machine can have problems.

i know a big time logger here who just bought a 2012 648H this year, and about 4 months ago had to get a $24,000 reman trans from john deere smiley_thumbsdown :-[ :'(

Ouch! That must of hurt.

I don't know how they do it, i always said there must be some sliding under the table with the big mills.

so what is the difference between the C5D and my C5C ?   sounds like the same machine  353-4 speed-gearmatic 20 and built like a tank...

I think your right lumberjack48 about the skidder I'm interested in is s c5 he has it listed now as a c5?5

Does it have a 3-53 or 4-53 ?, if its a 3-53 its a true C5-D, if its a 4-53, i think its a early C6, on less the 4-53 was put in it by somebody.

Not sure still waiting for this guy call me to come and look at mine this weekend.

Quote from: DDDfarmer on August 23, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
so what is the difference between the C5D and my C5C ?   sounds like the same machine  353-4 speed-gearmatic 20 and built like a tank...

I have never seen a C5-C , i see you have one. I found a good pic of one, i've looked an looked at it. All running gear is C5, the only thing i see, it looks like its all put to gether on a C4 frame.
Take a good look at a C5-D frame, then compare them. Its really hard by looking at a picture, i'm probably a 100% wrong.

Hey LJ48 what can you tell me about a '76 TF c4d? I found what I think is a decant machine in NY. It has a air cooled 4 cyl duetz don't know much about those engines good bad? Has 16.9x 30 tires at 95% with double diamond chains gearmatic not sure what model? Just wanted opinions on that machine and how it is set up good bad ect. Finally getting some bites on mine so figured it was time to starting checking things out and seeing whats out there.

I dont think you will have to much trouble with the Duetz. Mine has a six cylinder turbo charged in it. Sips fuel and is quite. Had a detriot in my TJ before which dont get me wrong is a good motor but I dont miss the noise. Just make sure you keep the cylinder fins and oil cooler clean. I've run mine on the hottest days this summer and she stayed cool.

Thanks  Mark K I myself would like a quieter machine.

I would love to slip a 3.9 cummins in my bone.

So-- the different models of Tree Farmer, what size models of JD and TJ skidders did they compare to?

I guess what I asking about this tree farmer is it a good setup. Would it be a good stable machine? How much smaller is it compared to my pettibone. Are they easy to repair and maintain? I do like the fact that all four tires are new and has chains.

The Deutz engine is probably the most fuel efficient diesel option you could get on a TF. They are a solid engine, and run real quiet! A C4 is probably close in size to your 'bone.

Quote from: Okrafarmer on September 09, 2012, 12:01:35 AM
So-- the different models of Tree Farmer, what size models of JD and TJ skidders did they compare to?

I'll take a stab at your ? LJ48 may have a better read on this than I.....
TF C4-TJ 205-JD 440 all comperable machines. TF C5-TJ 230-JD 540 similar classed machines. TF C6-TJ 330?(not sure on this one)-JD 640 similar sized machines.

Sounds like they followed the John Deere numbers. So there was a 7-- so, like a TJ 450 or something? Were there any TF's smaller or bigger (like a C3, or C-8)?

I know my C7D is half a foot wider and a foot longer than a 640d I looked at around the same time. Both had 23.1-26's on them. I dont know how horsepower compares. Mine has a tag on the motor that says 173 hp at the flywheel.

OkraFarmer, I think Mark K has one of the biggest TF made being its a C7. I have never seen anything bigger than a C7 or smaller than a C4.  Somewhere in the TF history is the merger with Franklin too, and the C7 sort of melted in to Franklin 170. Friends of mine down here actually had one that had gone back to Franklin for the factory overhaul, and when they bought it there were two manuals, as it had c7 running gear underneath but was Cummins powered like the Franklin 170s of the time period. Good machine nonetheless and they pulled a lot of wood with it. Deere did similar things with some of Timberjacks stuff when they bought them. The Deere 753 feller buncher, very common today, is a lot like the TJ 608s that were real common in the northeast and Canada.  AS for the size of a machine a lot is dependent on how they are set up and what they run for rubber. As time has gone on everything has gotten bigger. For instance, my early 80s 240 must have been built to be a bit cheaper, as it only has a turbo 353 detroit in it. By the late 80s and early 90s the 225, which has a smaller frame and narrower stance, could be had with a 5 cylinder deutz or a 453 detroit. And the frames were not as small either. What would have been a 230 size machine in the 70s and 80s was now the 225, the late model 230 was more like an older 240, and the 240B and 240C models are a bit longer and wider than the older 240s. Same for Deere, the older 540s were 4 cylinder, if you wanted the big motor you needed to jump to a 640. Now a 540GIII or 540H has the same high output 6 cylinder that its big brothers have just not turned up as much, and weighs in at even more than the 640s of the 80s and 90s. I guess what I am getting at is that much has changed over the years and the badges may not necessarily reflect what you think you are getting.

Thanks mad murdock for the info. I heard those duetz diesels are good on fuel and are quieter than detroits which is somthing I want to get away from.

My experience with Duetz engines has been good, fairly quiet and definitely easy on fuel. They can be a bugger to get parts for from what I hear, though. Good thing is you rarely need them. Logman, I don't know how your Pettibone compares to my 501, yours is a master 6, right? Mine is definitely bigger than a C4, way longer and it weighs #17000 full of fuel.

Barbender my bone is a msster 15 and I think is a little bit bigger than a c4,but never had a side by side comparison. Thanks for the info!

Okra, PAFaller gives you pretty good rundown on the evolution of skidders from the 70's forward. If you are looking smaller than a C4'you have to look towards Garrett or early TJ, Franklin, etc. my model 15 is the transition where CanCar started with the C4 based off the Garrett 15 and went up from there. The model 10 Garrett takes you back to the beginnings of articulated skidders. For modern small skidders you have to go to an accessorized 4wd tractor, or the Awassos. Both options will cost you plenty by the time you accessorize a tractor
For woods work or buy a off the shelf purpose built machine like an Awassos.

The John Deere 440 is also a good size. I was noticing on its spec sheet that most, maybe all, 440 models featured a solid rear axle with no differential. Interesting. We're looking for one around 6 tons or less, and less than 8'6" wide for easier hauling. Then again, I'm not sure we should be getting a skidder right now, as there are other things that would probably be better investments for the business.

Getting lots of interest now in my skidder hope fully it sells soon! :) I got my eye for a new machine to replace it. ;)

Whats the D stand for on the c4d tree farmers? Axles? Engine?

Quote from: logman81 on September 11, 2012, 04:44:36 PM
Whats the D stand for on the c4d tree farmers? Axles? Engine?

Deluxe?

Maybe not sure don't know much about TF's.

Never saw one but heard TF made a C-3. I did see a TF C-8. What a monster! I believe it had a Big Cummins motor. I had to take my shoes and socks off to count the sliders, then I had to borrow my buddies hand. lol I just couldn't imagine what that machine would pull. The cable on it looked huge. I think it was better than an inch. I couldn't imagine pulling that around all day. It looked like it had a grapple on it at one time. The guy running it said you could more than fill a 10 wheeler with one hitch. I really wanted to operate it for a hitch or two but not being part of the crew all I could was watch. It must have been at least 11' wide. It was impressive.

Sounds like a beast!

I have i c4 early 60s .It has a c3 transfercase. The c4 is very short it fits on a 16 foot deck trailer. Mine has 18.4x34 tires its 8 feet wide.about 9000 LBS.Its not very stable with the tall tires. It has a 353 detroit.Uses 5 gal a day.pulls 3 16 inch DBH red oaks 5 hemlocks.tree lenght.It has a 4speed trans Pr 67 rockwell rear axle pr 52 front. the rear is alot heavier axle. Ive rebuilt both axles, planitarys, transfercase, engine.repind the whole machine. The steering pins center pins blade cylinder pins are all the same.Parts are easy to get.Timberjack frankiln Uses alot of the same stuff. for the tree farmer specific stuff I get from davco.pins, clutch slave.the cylinders i had a local hydraulic place repack.

ga jones sounds like it is a smaller version of what I'm looking at. This one is a '76 c4d model with the 4 cyl duetz diesel and 19.9x30 tires. I think they got bigger the newer they got?

Okra, I don't understand how the JD 440 can not have a rear differential, what is it, chain drive? ::) From what I've read on the forum, I thought 440s had manually locking diffs front and rear, so they were much easier to snake through tight thinnings with the diffs open.

Quote from: barbender on September 13, 2012, 07:55:10 PM
Okra, I don't understand how the JD 440 can not have a rear differential, what is it, chain drive? ::) From what I've read on the forum, I thought 440s had manually locking diffs front and rear, so they were much easier to snake through tight thinnings with the diffs open.

I am only going by what the John Deere spec sheets say. I looked at the ones for the 440A and 440D. The rear wheels evidently, are permanently locked together. I will see if I can find the link. . . .

Here.
http://www.deere.com/en_US/docs/non_current/skidders/440A%20cable%20skidder.pdf

Look down through the specs to where it says "Differentials" and tell me what you see.

Yes it does say solid axle much like a atv. ???

The moral of the story is, don;'t use a 440 as yard dog, turning on pavement all day.  :-\

I see it says "solid rear axle with no differential action." Interesting. I would think it still has a diff, it is just locked all the time. But, I have been wrong before :)

May be you both are talking about the same thing?

All the parts can be viewed on jdparts.com for the different 440 models and combo's.

Quote from: barbender on September 14, 2012, 08:41:14 AM
I see it says "solid rear axle with no differential action." Interesting. I would think it still has a diff, it is just locked all the time. But, I have been wrong before :)

If it is a solid rear axle, that means (either literally or in function) one solid piece from side to side, non capable of turning at all separately of each other. That means there is no differential, since a differential, by definition, is a device that allows the two output shafts to turn separately from each other. No doubt there is still the bull gear, as you would find in a standard differential, driven by a driveshaft input gear, and the bull gear is attached solidly to the "solid rear axle." In order for it to be a differential truly, it must have additional pieces, such as sun gears and planetary gears, to allow the two sides to compensate against each other according to the path of least resistance. A locking differential is a standard differential that is capable of having the two sides temporarily locked together as though they were a single unit, and some of them are able to have the locking mechanism controlled by the operator, while others (sometimes called posi-track or limited slip) are automatically engaged. From what I understand. These locking differentials are not intended to be locked most of the time, only when needed when one of the two wheels is slipping and the machine is stuck or in danger of being stuck.

Ok, let's talk about Tree Farmers again. . . .

Sorry Okra, I hope I wasn't coming off as a smart aleck or know it all, thats not my intended tone at all. Well, I am kind of a smart aleck but a good natured goofball type, definitely wouldn't mean to offend anyone. But I do love to tease ;D Now, tonight I was at the North Star Expo logging show, and there was a restored JD 440A there, my wife couldn't figure out why I needed to crawl on the ground under the back of the machine. I had to see the rear axle :D Well, there is definitely something different about it, not a regular differential. Okra your description above clears things up, I guess I meant that there has to be something to transfer the driveshaft power to the axle, but I'm learning that doesn't neccesarily mean it is a differential.
Didn't old autos like model T's have a similar drive system? Ok, moving onnow, I think a C4 would be swell for.firewood

Sorry, posting from an android, I think a C4 would be a great machine for thinning and firewood. I had watched one for several years, nice clean machine with new tires, ford diesel. They finally sold it for $4500 after I bought another machine. Someone got a really good deal.

I always liked the looks of the green Tree Farmers. I thought they looked smart and intelligently put together. I never had much personal contact with them, though. A look on the internet reveals a whole lot of skidder videos on You-tube but not many informational pages, especially about absorbed brands, such as Tree Farmer.

Barbender, I wasn't taking you as being a smart-aleck, no problem there. I'm sorry if I came across as being snarky. In actual fact, there are many people out there who don't understand what a differential is or what it does, or what the consequences would be of not having one.  ;) To recap, for anyone who might still be confused, a differential is included in a drive axle for an important purpose, and that purpose is to allow the two drive wheels of the axle to turn independently, to allow the machine to turn without the drive axle and drive wheels binding. If a machine with a solid drive axle turns a corner, the inside wheel and outside wheel are fighting against each other, which is very hard on every component in the process, from the axle itself to the tires. Now, this problem is not as severe when the machine is turning on soft ground (and the softer it is, the less of a problem it is). So when operating in the forest, it's not so bad, but if you get out on the pavement or concrete, you're putting a lot of stress on things when you turn.

Ok, back to Tree Farmers again. Like I said, they are nice looking animals. . . .

I used to run a small komatsu grader that was had a, well, it looked like a differential, but it was locked, maybe someone welded the spiders or something. At any rate, if you got on a hard surface you could not turn that thing, the front wheels would just slide. I always figured the axle was going break.

Yes, and then  you would have earned your user name even more.  :-\ Or maybe it would be axle breaker.

I am kind of known as a good operator that is easy on equipment, but when I screw up and break or bend something, look out cause I tend to have disasters in groups of three :o No one wants to be around me until I get the other 2 out of my system ;D

I think we have strayed off topic guys? Back to getting info on the c4d tree farmers I do like the looks of it seems well built. Now if I could only get my bone to sell!

Sorry, that was my fault. Tree Farmers. Anybody know any neat informative websites about Tree Farmers? I have looked at the current Franklin / Tree Farmer home page, but I'm interested to see all the pictures, history, and commentary about them in one place, if there is a website like that. Google wasn't much help. . . . .

Adam Garrett has a FB page with a lot of old pictures of the early days of the Tree Farmer, Garrett sold the Tree
farmer line to Can Car in the mid 1960's.

I have checked that out some neat stuff!

So, do the Tree Farmers have open differentials, locking or limited slip? I'm talking the pre- 80's models. I still think you aren't going to find much difference between the Tree Farmers and your Pettibone, they are both component machines. The Tree Farmers are nice simple machines, just like your Pettibone.

All the TF's i ran had limited slip, in a good pull they will all lock up. In mud or deep snow you can duck walk the machine, this is a must in the woods. I knew a guy with a TJ that locked up the rear ends, i'll put it this way it didn't work.
Most have Rockwell or Eaton rear ends

logman a TF, TJ. IH, jd, ect are no better machine then your P-Bone.

Hey mad murdock I looked for that FB page and could you help me find it because I put in adam garrett and there are hundreds of people with that name or is it under something else?I would really like to see those pics.

Heres some

http://dhseagles.kpdsb.on.ca/about/drydenPaperMill/stories/beatty/billBeatty.html

From FB search "Garrett Enumclaw Co" should take you to his page.

mine has lockups front and rear.(locked all the time.). it works fine. I think All the older jacks are full locked. The newer ones have a manual locker.

MOst of the c 4s Ive seen have pr52 rockwell axles front and rear. They are very light. I would not pull 5 16" tree lenght hemlock If i had that in the rear with 18.4x34 rubber.Ive broken the spindle off A pr 67 pulling like that the 52 is much lighter.The 52s are easy to pick out. You can see the brass pins that hold the sun gears. There is no cover plate on the end of the axle.(The planitary housing).And if theres gear oil seeping out of them the pins are shot.............I personaly would favor a tree farmer over just about anything. I do like 230 240 jacks but they have some short falls of there own.

I may be just nit picking on the jacks but there brake set up is bad theres no belly pan.You have to pull the engine to freshen it.The hydraulic lines are rubber hose routed through the frame. (metric).(overall a bit harder to work on But nowhere near as bad as a deere!!!!!!!)

I think they all have there shortfalls. I ran a 225 TJ for years. None of my hoses were metric. Never had any real problems with brakes either as long as you keep up on maintinence. I liked the one step to get into the cab. You have to pull the engine on my C7D to overhaul it too. As far as working on I liked my TJ better. I replaced the clutch a mile back in the woods in a couple hours with a come along and a set of wrenchs. It was so simple to work on. I pulled a tranny on a 440D a while back and agree with ya. It was a nightmare compaired to a TF or TJ.

Yes the one step is great.And the low center of gravity. There great on steep grades. the one I changed a metric line in is a 1986 230. The return from the tank. It was a Pain.The metric line was easy to get But we dont have metric wrenches tha big..I do like the 200 series better than the tree farmers.It seems The tree farmers are a bit less expensive.

Mine was close to 20 years older than that :D. Didnt have any metric on it. I almost bought a C4 when I bought my first skidder. It had the 172 gas with 18.4-26's on it. It was a neat little machine but needed alot of work to put it in the woods. I bought my TJ for a little more money and it was woods ready. I've been looking for another small machine for a project.

The Tree Farmers use a steering wheel, right? I've never driven a skidder yet, but looked at a few, and I don't like the TJ lever steering, especially since on the ones I was looking at, the lever moved fore and aft, rather than left and right. I guess you can get used to anything, but I prefer for things to be intuitive.

my c5c  uses a lever side to side.  in the bush its fine but higher speeds down the road be fun

Quote from: DDDfarmer on September 16, 2012, 09:37:48 PM
my c5c  uses a lever side to side.  in the bush its fine but higher speeds down the road be fun

Ha. I can understand that.

Lever.  The 1980's Franklins, have a wheel as well as JD, and the Gafner (Iron Mules) I have run in the woods.

I think most of the older TF's are lever steer I'm used to it though because that is what my p bone has. If any of you want to see the TF I like go to Mass cl and scroll down to the one in hudson falls, I think sept 15. I'm thinking I might have to take my p bone to auction? Not getting a whole lot serious buyers and I really don't want to keep it.

It's sept 5 not 15. :D

looks like the rockwell pr 52 axles front and rear. model 9 winch maybe. looks good in pics. I cant tell if tires are forestry or tractor tires by the pic. light. dont think id be pulling big turns with it. Same as mine but newer. beefer front blade.size wise its exactly the same. Mine is 8 inches taller with 18.4x34s.I think mine is considerd a pulpwood special.(tall tires bigger rear axle). I think lumberjack 48 knows about those small axles with big rubber.

Its a nice looking machine, i used a model 9 gearmatic winch many yrs, there a good winch. It will handle a cord behind it in second gear low range no problem.
A set of rings on the front are a must on this machine. If you notice this machine is a little longer then the older standard C4. I ran a 1967 C4, it was longer then my 68. It had the Perkins diesel in it, the longer machine pulled better and smoother riding.

The thing i don't like is when they call it a firewood machine. It is a very productive logging skidder, i ran a 3 man crew, skidder drive, feller, landing man, using a C4 gas, we pulled 500 to a 1000 cords a month depending on the timber. I personally could put just as much wood on the landing with a C4 as my C5, you have to know how to work your machine. [ load light and run like a scared dog ]  8)

ga jones if you went with 18.4x26s your machine would be happier and so would you,  :) just my experience running 18.4 x 34s many yrs.

I figure you are right. my machine is VERY unstable. Ive been watching for 18.4 26 rims and tires. need a good price or Ill just buy another machine. I do like the super high ground clearance.I limb my hemlock with the tires on the skidder. I can straddle 2 footers. but other than that i dont like the tall rubber.Ive watched your posts on tree farmers and appreciate your input.

By the way how much is a cord behind the machine? around here everything is measured by the load (triaxle load).3800 feet of hard wood 4000 feet of soft.scribner rule.about 22 tons. We dont do anything in cords.

About 500 ft or 4800 lbs, i could tell real close by the size of the trees how many it would take to make a cord.

Yes I also like the look of it. All the sheet metal seems nice and straight. Not sure what tires those are but nice and new. This the type of machine I would rathet have. Seems it is well taken care of, not to sure on the price though!

if its as good as the pics its a good price. I wouldnt part with mine for less than 10,000

I think the price is fair if it works good. Now if I can ever get mine sold.

logman81 tires, chains and spare tire, $5,500. were paying about $4,000. for the skidder. I think its a steal at that price, i just hope its not like most women. They can sure look good, but when you say i do they fall apart.
NO, i think it would be a good skidder.

Quotebut when you say i do they fall apart.

I'm a bit surprised that you would say that..... ::)

beenthere i didn't learn the first time, i said it again. These are two little words that can make you or break you.

Sounds good to me lumberjack48 thats the perfect machine for me. Should have held out and bought a tf instead of the p bone. Lesson learnd, my machine is good just over kill for what I do.

lumberjack 48.I found a set of 18.4x26 rims for 1300 all 4.used. should be here in a couple days..Got some tires from a buddy. not much tread but will hold chains. till i decide whether to buy 2 or 4.Working side hill now.cant wait to see how much more stable the machine is.Looked up the specs There 8 inches lower.Thats alot...

Just remember, your height difference is only half the difference of tire diameter.

Lots of tree farmers poping up for sale!

I busted a hose on my c6 today lost a little fluid. the hose was $34.  i took a load of pulp and made $166. i did ok today but, i was going t haul a load of logs today- i would have made $500 on the load of logs today. i still love my c6 no matter what though.

picked up the 8 lug rims i bought for my c4 today.got them home and found the offset or dish is wrong. there off a 208 tj. There 4 inches from the center plate to the outside of the rim and mine are 9 inches. have $1470.00 in them. guess im going to have to burn out the centers flip them and weld them back in.Or spend 270.00 shipping them back :( :( I guess 208 timberjacks are a bit narrower.

Ouch. That's an unfortunate late discovery.  :-\