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General Forestry => Forestry and Logging => Topic started by: Engineer on March 17, 2006, 05:00:21 PM

Title: Game of Logging
Post by: Engineer on March 17, 2006, 05:00:21 PM
Doing some soils/septic work for a friend who used to be a pro logger until he hurt his back pretty badly.  Turns out he used to be an assistant teacher for New England Region for the Game of Logging coursework and competition.    He offered to run me through the whole 4-day chainsaw course and teach me everything he could remember from the program.  No certificate, but what do I need a piece of paper for, being a weekend warrior?    I think it's a good deal, I get to trade him some of my expertise for some of his.

Anybody taken or taught the course?  What can I expect to get out of it?   ??? :P
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2006, 05:06:38 PM
You'll get your eyes opened. ;D
That's a great opportunity for you!
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Dan_Shade on March 17, 2006, 05:54:10 PM
that's awesome, I'd be all over that :)

Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Larry on March 17, 2006, 06:04:03 PM
Great opportunity.  Will make you a more productive and much safer cutter.  I paid full tuition, spent few nights in a motel, and a lot of driving to attend.  Never once regretted it and felt it was one of the smarter decisions Iíve made.

In Missouri the only reason for the certificate is if your going to log on government land...and you have to get re-certified every few years.

I just hired an engineer to lay out a new septic system...wonder iffen I can work some kind of deal?? :D :D
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Ed_K on March 17, 2006, 09:34:49 PM
 I'll never regret taking the 4 levels, I believe it saved my life, cause there where a lot of things I was doing wrong. And it will make you more productive  8).
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: jon12345 on March 17, 2006, 09:39:17 PM
I got a cert. for level 1 with college instructor, and took level 2 but no cert. with John Adler, I think he is from VT or maybe NH but that guy and im sure the other instructors definitely know their stuff.

If I ever got the chance to do more, or the same over again, I definitely would.  I think I learned more in those few days than in any other equivelant time of college.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Cedarman on March 17, 2006, 10:02:34 PM
Highly recommend the training.  Safety in the woods is so important. It will help you read the woods and see the dangers you may not have noticed. Springpoles can be killers.

I took the course from Soren himself.  What a treat.  When he showed me how to delimb a cedar (which I thought I was pretty good at)  I knew I had made my money back 10 times and more from that 5 minutes alone.

I send my guys if I know they will be going to the woods.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Dale Hatfield on March 17, 2006, 10:18:07 PM
Been Teaching  GOL  for years . Loved working with the Sweed. He had a style all his own.
Soren is now back in Sweeden  on whatever part timers do.

It will be 4 days well spent
Who is the Trainer.

Dale
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: isassi on March 18, 2006, 04:08:57 AM
Perhaps someone could create a video and guide for those interested. I would certainly be interested since I probably would not be able to ever attend one of the training sessions.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: sprucebunny on March 18, 2006, 06:38:04 AM
I would very much like to get this training but thier website has no schedual. Does anyone know how to find a course near me ???
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: sprucebunny on March 18, 2006, 07:30:22 AM
Well, I got serious about searching for this and here is a list of upcoming training around New England.

http://www.woodlandtraining.com/courses/sched.php

This may not be the only group that offers the GOL so please tell us if you know of other courses ;D
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: jon12345 on March 18, 2006, 09:12:44 AM
Northern Logger might do some courses scheduled or information on them, I'll look it up and if I find anything I'll put it here.


edit: Their GOL is listed as TBA, however there are other courses listed.  If you want more info PM me or ask here and I'll try to help.  I took a couple of their courses and both were fun and informative.

Some high schools/vocational schools offer GOL as part of their curriculum too and might do courses for non students as well.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Rob on March 18, 2006, 01:04:06 PM
You can call the NHTOA or NHTHC here in New Hampshire they offer the Pro Logger training which teaches the same as GOL and they also offer the Landowner Courses wihich are coming up very soon .

Here is a link.

http://www.nhtoa.org/

 Here is a list of upcoming training


Workshops

2006 Training & Workshops


FIRST AID & CPR
April 3: NH Fish & Game (Lancaster)
April 4: Hubbard Brook (Thornton)
April 5: Albany Town Hall (Albany)
April 6: Fox State Forest (Hillsborough)
April 24: NH Fish & Game (Lancaster)
April 25: Hubbard Brook (Thornton)
April 26: Albany Town Hall (Albany)
April 27: Fox State Forest (Hillsborough)
April 28: Shieling Forest (Peterborough)


TIMBER HARVESTING LAW
A one day workshop preenting information on New Hampshire's Timber Harvesting Laws, Wetland Regulations and the use of Best Management Practices. Practical, hands-on instruction for todays's logging professional.

April 17: Stark Town Hall
April 18: Orange Town Hall
April 19: Loudon Community Center


SAFE TRUCKING
This is an opportunity to gather with other truckers to share your experience and learn how other drivers stay safe. Pick up some new ideas from the presentations and add your point of view.

April 11: Conservation Center (Concord)
April 20: NH Fish & Game (Lancaster)


GPS (Global Position System)
Learn how you can use this latest technology to plan, layout and operate a logging job, map timber sales use topographic maps, deal with property boundaries and wetland permit applications.

April 22: Conservation Center (Concord)
April 29: Owl Brook Education Center (Holderness)


MECHANIZED LOGGING
A one day workshop presenting information on safety training for mechanized operations. We'll cover safety, Service Van compliance, hazardous materials, harvesting systems, equipment safety, job layout, problem solving, and basic chainsaw safety.

May 1: Fox State Forest (Hillsborough)
May 2: Hubbard Brook (Thornton)
May 3: NH Fish & Game (Lancaster)


SAFE FELLING
Learn about personal protective equipment, chainsaw maintenance safety, hazard evaluation and the basics of felling.

May 9: NH State Nursery (Boscawen)


ADVANCED FELLING
In this continuation of Safe Felling, learn about felling difficult trees, and removing hazards.

May 10: Fox State Forest (Hillsborough)
May 11: TBA (Plymouth)


FUNDAMENTALS OF FORESTRY
This workshop will give loggers a better understanding of the theory behind forest management and the application of silviculture for sustainable forest resources.

May 16: Rumney Fire House (Rumney)
May 23: Shieling State Forest (Peterborough)


LANDOWNER/INTRODUCTORY FELLING (TENTATIVE DATES)

May 20: Location TBA
May 27: Location TBA



To get on our mailing list, call our office at (603) 224-9699. If you don't see a class, please contact us. More classes and dates to come. Keep checking this page for changes and updated information as new classes and schedules become available.

Please note: All classes subject to change due to weather or cancellations.


              This should help everyone here in NH ..

                                                            Later Rob
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Ron Scott on March 18, 2006, 04:53:22 PM
A must course for anyone wishing to make a livlihood in the logging business.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: logbutcher on March 19, 2006, 09:41:45 PM
Ditto ditto, all the above. Best learning I ever did. Here in Maine, MEMIC ( Google the site ) runs GOL programs with Andy Wood (real name). Tough program changing old ways.
After too many years cutting as the dreaded  ??? homeowner, I took the mixed landowner GOL. The "pros" had to take the class, and they 'learned' along with us.
At the minimum, find someone with the GOL Manual showing the efficient sawing, planning, and safety techniques. Just learning the boring method was an eyeopener  :P . One whole ,orning was spent 'just' learning all over again - sharpening.
This program is better than range drills with D.I.'s screaming.....think of that saw as a firearm .
You can teach an old dog  8).....................
Do it.

Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: RSteiner on March 20, 2006, 06:42:58 AM
Back when Soren was out and about teaching these things I went through his training.  What I learned and pratice has not doubt saved my hide many times.  There is a young man I work with who is doing a lot of tree cuting at home clearing a piece of land.  As we talked about what he was doing and the results he was having I offered to help him and show him a safer way of doing things where he would have much more control of the outcome.

After several hours he was doing quite well and a few weeks later mentioned that doing things in this manner was not only making him safer but more productive.  It's too bad this type of training was required for every one who purchased a chainsaw, not that I want to see more laws but it could save a few lives.

Randy
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: boboak on March 20, 2006, 01:33:22 PM
   Does anyone know if GOL is available on the west coast?
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: sprucebunny on April 07, 2006, 06:49:39 AM
I signed up for a course a couple weeks ago to be held April 21/22 in Vermont.

Don't see that course listed here, now, but here are some dates for GOL around New England.

http://www.woodlandtraining.com/courses/sched.php

I'll try to take some pictures and make a little report ;D
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: Frickman on April 07, 2006, 07:44:04 PM
I took all four levels back in 1994. It is a very good course, even if you are a weekend woodcutter. I didn't take the course with Soren, but did get to meet him at several events. He is a great guy.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: sprucebunny on April 24, 2006, 07:28:43 PM
The course I signed up for was cancelled. So was the next one I found ::)

The third place I called has never called back and I've kind of given up for the moment.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: VT4stry on May 24, 2006, 10:19:08 PM
That face behind the "gun" looks famliar.........

Ah, the baldhead tells all

Hi Jon!

Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: C_Miller on May 24, 2006, 10:36:25 PM
Do you have a link for the Cornell do?
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: bitternut on May 25, 2006, 07:58:19 AM
Here is a link to the application. Don't know if this is what you need but here it is.

http://www.dnr.cornell.edu/ext/info/2006/GOL%202006.doc

I think it is for level III only but I am not sure. I hosted level I through level III last fall at my woods. I think my woods is real close to your location and would have been convenient for you. My woods is between Cuba and Portville. I think it is a must do for anyone who picks up a chainsaw.
Title: Re: Game of Logging
Post by: C_Miller on May 25, 2006, 08:31:33 AM
Thanks,

It would have been close but I was Overseas for the fall and winter.

C