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Started by Jeff, November 14, 2023, 07:52:27 AM

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Jeff

The reason I highly doubt a dog, is because this aint suberbia. This is about as wilderness as you are going to get in the eastern U.P. east of I-75. I'd say I know most all my neighbors within a mile radius. We have wolves, coyotes, cougars, bears, bobcats and I certainly suspect lynx.  I've spent the majority of my free time in this area since 1994. In all that time, we have had a collared bear dog show up once, and earlier this year, a great big red wolf dog hybrid belonging to the neighbor across the road. Other than that, this aint dog friendly country.
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https://a-z-animals.com/blog/coyote-vs-wolf-the-6-key-differences-explained/

Coyotes have a center lobe on the pad which is missing in Jeff's picture with the boot.  This indicates a Wolf.
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Put a stereo speaker out and play a recording of the Roadrunner's "Beep, Meep" real loud.  If a critter runs up with an Acme box full of dynamite, it's got to be Wile E. Coyote.

If, not, then it's a wolf.

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Quote from: doc henderson on November 15, 2023, 07:58:13 AM
I have a coyote that was very healthy and young.  had some red and almost looked like a fox.  It is mounted, and I can get a pic later.  we do not have wolves.
A state parks official says tests have confirmed that an animal killed by hunters in Trego County in December was a wolf.
DNA testing conducted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service confirmed the animal was a western Great Lakes wolf, a subspecies of the gray wolf. Ron Kaufman, a spokesman for the Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism, says officials haven't determined if the wolf was wild or had been in captivity. The Hays Daily News reported Monday the last confirmed killing of a gray wolf in Kansas was during the winter of 1938-39. The animal's body has been turned over to the federal wildlife agency. Gray wolves are a protected species outside extreme northern United States. The hunters have not been identified.

Walnut Beast

I had a conversation last week with a farmer about the crossbreed coyote/wolf. Before this conversation here. He believes and many do they are out there. Do you think the game and parks commission everywhere tells the public everything. I don't think so!!

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It's a grey wolf as noted by its ears, size, and track.
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Sidebar but the fish and game folks in North Carolina - federal I think - are in the process of re-introducing Red Wolves to the eastern part of the state.  In some areas there is a lot of timber and farm land there, but there are a lot of people in that area and it's growing.  What could possibly go wrong?   
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SwampDonkey

Jeff's photo does show a critter with a heavier muzzle than our coyotes. So could very well be wolf. As to tracks, after being rained on, can be obscured a bit. You can see in those other tracks that they don't always fit the mold. ;)
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BillyTheKid

The head/snout look like a wolf. The size of the body looks like a wolf. But the small feet look like a coyote. I think it's a wolf. I have plenty of both around my house, but never both at the same time as the wolves hunt coyote. I like to keep track of who's ruling the neighborhood by listening to evening howls. A wolf sounds like a ghost. A coyote sounds like a yapping dog.
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Jeff

I sent my superimposed video to dnr wildlife in the soo, and they shared it, and they all said coyote.
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snobdds

Good to confirm.

For me, it was the chest.  It was too broad to be a wolf. 

chet

New wolf pic just before Christmas

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chet

I can assure you it is not a dog.
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Jeff

Quote from: chet on January 31, 2024, 11:04:21 PMNew wolf pic just before Christmas
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Is the broken pic a new problem or did upu delete
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Jeff

Just call me the midget doctor.
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chet

:) Almost posted that yesterday as a trial balloon.
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Jeff

The gallery search is great. I went, unclicked the defaults, clicked owner, and searched chet
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chet

I was able to load it in Firefox. I can see it there. But when I log in with Chrome I cannot.
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When I check Chet's image source (shows in Brave/Chrome as IMG preview with an icon) in the inspector of the browser it says it's coming from outlook.live.

https://attachment.outlook.live.net/owa/MSA%3A26a663fd77f84f29a9cfdf75c20788d299b500268aeabc236e4f3889a954638c%40shadow.outlook.com/service.svc/s/GetAttachmentThumbnail?
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