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Started by Wood Tick, November 04, 2011, 08:44:02 PM

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Wood Tick

Hi, New guy here  I live in northern Michigan and I'm looking for prices on what rough sawn sugar maple goes for i.e in Northern Mich.  This is 2X stuff varying from 6-10" by 8-16'  It has been air dired in a barn for more then 3 years.  Mostly clear #2 for sure with some 1s and 3s no figure that I can tell.  I have called a number of guys that have local band mills to see what they sell such for and most just cut logs for landowners.  I got a hold of another guy that would sell custom cut HrdMpl for $3.45/brdft  this seems high, but is he in the ball park?  I haven't had much luck in finding other qoutes.  Looking to sell it but I want an idea of what I'm sitting on before I do.  Some red oak also.

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WDH

I would not sell 8/4 (2x material) hard maple for any less than $3.45/BF.  However, it is not very common here in the deep South.  May not be the same in Northern MI. 

Generally, 8/4 lumber if dried well brings a premium over 4/4 stock.  Whenever I sell 8/4, I tend to price it a t 1.5 times that price of 4/4 lumber unless it is really special stuff.  Using that logic, the equivalent 4/4 price would be just under $2.00/BF. 

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SwampDonkey

8/4 hard maple material, kilned is $3.50/bf here at the local warehouse. Just priced it today. I live in hard maple country. 4/4 material is $3.00 locally.

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Wood Tick

Wow, Great!  Thanks for the help, as a forester we rarely get into priceing boards.  Seems like there is more money in boards than trees, I might be in the wrong end of the trade.

oakiemac

Here in southern Michigan, I sell 8/4 H.M. for $3.55/bf for the white or mostly white select and better grade, kiln dried.
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metalspinner

Welcome to the Forum, Wood Tick. :)

As a buyer, I would need answers to several questions before I plunked down upwards of $3.50bf for rough sawn run of the mill maple.

Long time sellers build a reputation for better or worse on the condition of their material.

You mentioned it was stored in a barn.  I've seen chickens have free rain on lumber stacks in a barn. It was not a pretty sight to this city slicker. :D

Was the lumber stacked properly with good airflow on a level foundation with plenty of dry stickers lined up to prevent warping?

How was the lumber cut from the log?  That is probably a retorical question, but that will determine if the lumber has internal stresses that will show in later processing.

Was any grading of the lumber performed off the mill?

Are there pith boards in the mix? For shop lumber these are worthless - literally.

Bug damage?

Sticker stain?

As a weekend warrior in the woodshop, some of these possible defects can be worked around if the price is right.  But a business man needs a dependable commodity that won't lose him money.
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Wood Tick

Hey Metalspinner,

Hey Metalspinner,

Thanks for the great input; the wood has a good deal of avian flu spores residing on it.  I don't plan on selling it to some city kid wanting to build a recipe holder for his mom.  Most city kids around here are dumb and would use it for firewood anyway. 

Yes the wood was stacked and stickered properly

No warping that I can see, may best guess as it was flat sawn.

The lumber was not graded and I haven't seen any junk boards, ends are checked from drying but no heartwood can be seen.

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