Thanks to Spike60, a fellow named "Matt" and the local parts barn.. a new project is forming ...another a box of parts to a saw blending project. 268, 266 (old style ), 272 & a bunch 630 and 670 parts...maybe a red & orange blend? Can a 630 Jonsered run like a 272? Or maybe a 268 open port cylinder be made to run like a 272XP? Maybe additional finger ports to even the playing field? Time will tell. Haven't picked the final direction just yet.
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Have two good top ends...a 272 and 268 open port...3 good bottom ends & a bunch of details...only missing top covers...have some red (black) cover/filter combo's that should work just fine. I'm a piston shy of having another 268 top end. So....first task to piece together a running saw...272 or 268? Hummm..
Sounds interesting .To tell the truth though my knowledge of Husqvarnas would fit in a thimble so I have no idea what would fit what . Macs yes and some Stihls but that's where it ends .
Just keep building more saws; we don't have enough yet. ;D I like the idea of a Red/Orange halfbreed. One of a kind saws like your 272 white top are pretty interesting. I'm going to have fun with those 254's. I'll keep one stock, and experiment with the other a bit.
Sunday was a fun project day, and I think I sent you home more junk than you brought down, at least measured by weight.
One of the upcoming GTG's will have to focus on saws that we brought back from the dead and built ourselves.
Quote from: Spike60 on February 01, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
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One of the upcoming GTG's will have to focus on saws that we brought back from the dead and built ourselves.
That would include about half of mine . :D
Quote from: weimedog on February 01, 2011, 08:01:36 AM
Have two good top ends...a 272 and 268 open port...3 good bottom ends & a bunch of details...only missing top covers...have some red (black) cover/filter combo's that should work just fine. I'm a piston shy of having another 268 top end. So....first task to piece together a running saw...272 or 268? Hummm..
272 should get first priority, I guess.... :)
I have a faded but decent 266 top cover I can add to the box if you like. I'm even up, or maybe 1 short on coils and chainbrakes, but I have a bunch of odds and ends if you're missing anything.
If one of y'all run upon an extra 268/272 coil or two, I could use one to replace that green coil on my Poulan Pro 505.
I may have a spare coils, I just don't know how good they are. So I will drop one in that red box. You have enough to stick together a 266 or 268? Maybe I can fill in the gaps there for you as well. Have yet another project saw based on that series. I have a 266 set of cases setup up for the old style 266 cover with the different mounting screw locations and two coil ignition..its crank or crank bearings are bad. I also have a 266 cover...was thinking of the custom concept like with that 61 I did before...maybe a 266 to 272? Was leaning towards a 630 to 272 blend if I can find enough red plastic...of course this snow may force an orange saw as all the red is snowed in in a big way right now.
Quote from: Saw Dr. on February 01, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
If one of y'all run upon an extra 268/272 coil or two, I could use one to replace that green coil on my Poulan Pro 505.
Is this a bolt in without having to re-time the flywheel?
My 415 had the unlimited coil, but I havent checked the 475 yet. It's down on the list.
The Poulan 475 yellow, right now looks like it is going to get a red Jonsered 2077 tank. :o
My 362xp has some red Jonsered in it too. :D Then you the red-yellow 490-5000 hybrids ;).
I have several of those partial saws around. There are a few bottom ends, but nothing I think is worth trying to build a saw from. I do have a pair of complete dark-top 61's that are set aside for refurb. One is locked up, and the other is free but low on compression. I have not spun the free one fast enough to test the ignition. Obviously the stuck one has not been tested either. I think I have a spare two piece ignition though. Those saws are going to be a little experiment for me. I have a closed-port 50mm 268xp jug and a closed-port 50mm 266xp slated for them. Rumor has always been that the 268 cylinder is better. I am not so sure. I want to set them up stock and run them side by side. Then I hope to crank up the compression and have another look. That is long term, and those saws are not taking up much space. I'll get to it one day.
Single place coil would be appreciated if you can spare any. Rev limiter on that 505 (J-red 2083) is pretty annoying.
Quote from: Cut4fun on February 01, 2011, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Saw Dr. on February 01, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
If one of y'all run upon an extra 268/272 coil or two, I could use one to replace that green coil on my Poulan Pro 505.
Is this a bolt in without having to re-time the flywheel?
My 415 had the unlimited coil, but I havent checked the 475 yet. It's down on the list.
The Poulan 475 yellow, right now looks like it is going to get a red Jonsered 2077 tank. :o
My 362xp has some red Jonsered in it too. :D Then you the red-yellow 490-5000 hybrids ;).
I am sure you know this, but others may not - the 2077 and the PP 475 both are the Partner P7700 in different colors. Add to that, all the saws probably were made at the Husky factory, but there was no Husky version! 8) 8)
The sorting begins...i've had that "bright" orange 268 bottom end around for a while...and this influx of parts will be what I need to make it into a runner. That new 272 cover also may go over to my other 272 and the rougher one come back here to this project...
So here is the final selection to pick thru from the boxes:
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I think its an interesting contrast between the open port 268 and the closed port 272...so here is a side by side pic of the two designs..268 open "finger" port cylinder & piston on the left, 272 closed port on the right:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/615/contrast.jpg)
I put some time this weekend into this 268 combo..its been assembled with stock gasket augmented with Three Bond 1194 and a new carb kit. The filter came from a J-red pile I have here and this older style allows a low top cover....I like them better as they feel less clumsy to me. A minor thing.
The "Mockup" 268 top end...
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So the goal for the day (or tomorrow depending on snow accumulations) will be to get a running 268 open port saw together. Then start hacking because we can. Just want to start with a runner to take debugging variables away as we proceed...towards the third "Chopper Saw" in the collection.....
Put together a completely stock 268 as a starting point. (And yes it runs Bob..:)...the piston had a collapsed skirt)
A couple of things to look for when your dealing with a bunch of parts saws...one is the oil pump/case seal. These need to be looked over and really its worth popping in a new seal and "o-ring" to ensure a good crank case seal on this PTO side. Also make certain the oil line & oil pump aren't clogged. Following is a few pics of a bad set of seals & clogged oil pump to give you something to see that's not atypical actually on saws sitting around for too long ...especially on concrete floors.
Pulled the pump and here is the oil line...make certain the "sealing' surface on the top is good or it won't seal against the oil pump.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/615/Oil_Line_268.jpg)
Note the mating surface to the rubber oil line on the upper right of both oil pumps..one good one bad....the one of the right is both clogged and corroded..don't thing this oil pump will ever work...just stuff to look for!
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Same with the "o-ring" and inner seal on this oil pump ...the one on the left has a brittle & broken "O-ring" and worn seal...those seals are cheap..just replace them regardless!
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/615/Seals_268.jpg)
Anyway...did all that and stuck together the parts to make a running 268 with a 272 cover...a starting point for the project. This will be the comparison saw. Going to build a lightly modded 268 next I think...then run them side by side to see if those changed were worth the effort...then a J-red 630 Bottom & plastic with 272XP top end..If i can make it for for the next "Chopper saw"..right along side that 61/272 Chopper. That's the direction this project will wander..unless input from you folks push it another way..
To review..this was built with the "open port" 268 cylinder & filter shown in the "mock up top end" photo and "comparison photo" in the prior posting. Used Three Bond & stock gaskets everywhere there was a gasket...on the stock saw...
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/615/0204110947.jpg)
Nice running saw...cuts wood...the first saw to form from the junk pile...:)
At some point i want to build a true Husqred. Crank case half red and half orange. I have seen it done, but have read it is not advised as case halves should be a matched set.
I agree and that's what i would do if my road to where the Jred parts stash wasn't under 8 ft of snow! I have a pair of 630 old style cases/bottom ends...:)
Quote from: weimedog on February 09, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
Jred parts stash wasn't under 8 ft of snow! I have a pair of 630 old style cases/bottom ends...:)
I know it's not funny but even being in the snow country as you are you folks really got dumped on bad this year .That stuff won't melt off until June .
Quote from: weimedog on February 09, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
I agree and that's what i would do if my road to where the Jred parts stash wasn't under 8 ft of snow! I have a pair of 630 old style cases/bottom ends...:)
Might have to work on that other two stroke engine powered machine to get parts for the project! Or sled down the hill and hike(snowshoe) back!
K...was able to piece together a running 268 and running 272 from these parts. So now project time. They both are pretty ugly!! So Either to clean up, muffler mod, and do some mild port work or build a J-red 630 blend with the other....or stretch and build yet another out of a 630 J-red....and a 272XP after market jug I have...hummm Decision time...or if there are any other ideas out there?
Quote from: motomedik on February 10, 2011, 08:33:19 AM
Quote from: weimedog on February 09, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
I agree and that's what i would do if my road to where the Jred parts stash wasn't under 8 ft of snow! I have a pair of 630 old style cases/bottom ends...:)
Might have to work on that other two stroke engine powered machine to get parts for the project! Or sled down the hill and hike(snowshoe) back!
Got the old Snowmobile running! Still probably needs a carb kit as some point. Fired right up...on the old gas too! It was a Mobile One MX2T blend so it had sabilisers maybe thats why it didn't go terribly bad yet...new mix is in now.
So 2 morrow off to the woods to collect parts for this project.
Also a couple of details...stuck together a 272XP out of that pile so there is both a running and complete 268 and 272 now. Both are ugly as sin..but this is a good place to start.
272 ugly saw..:
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WHen blending parts another small anomaly turned up...pull start assemblies. The older ones were not as thick as the newer 272's so the pully's don't interchange I put up a picture to show the difference;
Pully's the 272 is longer (on the left) 61 is on the right. I put a 61 pull start guts in the 272 cover..didn't work. So had to go back and put the 272 puller in.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/615/Pullys.jpg)
Finally got back to this Chicken Chit to Chicken Soup set of saws. Have a running 268 based saw and a running 272 out of the mix. So starting with the 272, the plan to to build it into a functional reliable saw with a few tweaks...and try out a few mod idea's along the way..so first was to do a low buck and hand tools only muffler mod. Not every one has torches! Pics tell the story..its ugly but helps the saw make more noise!
This saw did get a new aftermarket chain brake/clutch cover. Have to be safe! This one was a Forester brand but there are others. AND those little rubber sqwrench holders are really handy. Most of my saw I carry in the woods ends up with one. Bailey's is where this one came from.
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No I didn't grind it on the saw! Pulled it off, drilled out what I could and used a die grinder to clean it up before putting it back on the saw. Just hogged out that stock restriction hole ... BUT leave a little on that front side, where I'm pointing with the die grinder, so there isn't a straight shot right to the chain brake handle! Have to be certain you leave enough so the deflection cover can keep the exhaust gasses off the handle.
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Opened up the deflection cover with a pair of plyers...was looking to end up 80 or 90 percent of the cross sectional area of the exhaust port...but I made it a little more because of some things coming to this saw as I have time..:)
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Bolted back on for now...
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It still deflects away from the chainbrake as the stock configuration did...after some testing I'll decide if this is a workable mod..and if it is, paint will follow..if not; i will cover that hole and do my standard muffler mod on the 272's with a 3/4 inch steel tubing for the outlet.
Any predictions?
(I think I should rename this thread..cheap work saws! Or Chicken Chit to Chicken soup saws...the idea being you can have fun with junkers from a variety of sources if the dollars are tight.)
And its beginning to evolve into the higher evolution "red" form...my bet is before this year is out that evolution will be complete!
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I just took in trade a 268 with a stock afm 272 top end on it today.
Now, just get rid of that silly scrench holder! ;D
Nikko I will post pics later in the other thread. But mine is a Black tag 268 SE with 268xp on the recoil.
Quote from: SawTroll on March 24, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
Now, just get rid of that silly scrench holder! ;D
Heck no! Some times I just gas up the saw and fill the bar oil and carry the saw out in the woods for a blow down or trail work. Its really nice to have the complete package all together..I've grow to really like those goofy things.
Quote from: SawTroll on March 24, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
Now, just get rid of that silly scrench holder! ;D
I agree with you Niko. I bought one from Baileys and tried it on my Stihl 066 once. It added extra weight to the saw, getting caught in underbrush and the worst thing was the scrench screwdriver end would work itself between the saw's fuel tank and sprocket cover causing all kinds of vibration.
I just carry my scrench in my back pocket like I have for the last 37 yrs. I like the short Husqvarna screnchs, they don't poke a hole in the truck seat .
Willard. :D
Quote from: HolmenTree on March 25, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
I just carry my scrench in my back pocket like I have for the last 37 yrs. I like the short Husqvarna screnchs, they don't poke a hole in the truck seat .
Willard. :D
You may be right :( One thing I always do when working from the tractor or quad..is keep sharp objects OFF my person if at all possible. If I misstep off the tractor or take a spill off the quad (roll it, have it come over on a steep hill, etc) The less things tied to me the better! Don't want to fall and have that scrench stuck into places it doesn't belong! A hold over from Motorcycle trail riding protocall I guess. But I can always learn..:)
I mostly use a Husky scrench in the woods, and a Stihl one in the yard or by the car. :)
Quote from: Cut4fun on March 24, 2011, 07:46:32 PM
Nikko I will post pics later in the other thread. But mine is a Black tag 268 SE with 268xp on the recoil.
I guess that is one of the few 268
SE saws I have heard of! :)
Hope that 268SE isn't based on of those Chinese fakes! :D ( They had 268's listed for a long time now they list the 365's and 372's! )
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/372146961-high-quality-husqvarna-268-chainsaw-complete-free-shipping-Made-in-China-wholesalers.html
Naw mine is the real deal with metal brake handle and all. :D :D
One of these saws built from that parts pile is now my 272XP CS2CS...(Chicken Chit 2 Chicken Soup) and I finally got it where I wanted (the one with the red neck muffler mod I posted earlier in this thread)...had to replace the bar oil pump and the tank vent. Both were non functional....so after a few days of general work did the load testing to see if it would survive. Noodled a bunch of hard maple blocks that are in the 2ft dia range. Ran a tank of fuel thru it doing this type of cutting...good running saw, returns to idle when I put it on the ground after a hard pull for a couple of minutes.weather on its side or up right...and the plug check showed I still have it a bit rich..but its going to stay that way for a while.
Noodling 2ft Dia. Hard maple
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Plug check..how I fine tune my saws. Tweak to a light brown over time..tested by shutting the saw off in a loaded cut.
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268SE XP not from China :D
268 with 272 top end ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12882/1883/clinton268272xp_003.jpg)
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Are you going to muffler mod that saw? That's a tight fit that muffler can inside that 272XP top! Or is that an optical illusion? One of the things I want to try is blend a larger carb. The standard ID is around .75in. I have a few from big Partners that are a hair over .8inch. Wonder if a mild port massage, muffler mod, and blending one of those carbs would make enough of a difference to be fun. What B&C setup are you going to use? Stick that thing in some wood and get a few pics!
She's that tight and probably going to melt some plastic. Time will tell.
Top says 268 husqvarna on top decal and XP on back ;). 8)
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Quote from: weimedog on March 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM
What B&C setup are you going to use? Stick that thing in some wood and get a few pics!
20"-24" and 16" occasionally.
I'm actually going to make some video's of the 268/272, 2171, JD800V = Echo 8000, MS660, 028 super, Poulan 505 415 3750 365, 026 pro, and any other saws I get in trade or rebuild before the test for comparison sake. Only the 026 will be wearing .325, it dont like 3/8 at all. Rest will try and run same chain on in 3/8 round chisel.
Quote from: Cut4fun on March 31, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
She's that tight and probably going to melt some plastic. Time will tell.
Top says 268 husqvarna on top decal and XP on back ;). 8)
.......
The most interesting with that saw of your is the it says 268SE on the number tag, and XP anywhere else. At this stage, I believe most 1987 268xps mistakenly said SE on the tags.... :)
Quote from: SawTroll on March 31, 2011, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Cut4fun on March 31, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
She's that tight and probably going to melt some plastic. Time will tell.
Top says 268 husqvarna on top decal and XP on back ;). 8)
.......
The most interesting with that saw of your is the it says 268SE on the number tag, and XP anywhere else. At this stage, I believe most 1987 268xps mistakenly said SE on the tags.... :)
Just a fluke you guys were talking about SE XP and I just happened to take one in on trade and never noticed it till you and spike was talking about it on the chainsaw repair site. I went out to get some parts for the guy and picked the saw up of the floor and what do you know. The SE XP saws you guys were talking about.
Yours were made week 47 1987, the first year of the 268 - but the XP designation was not new at that point. I also know about a similar saw, made week 35 that year.......
Put the 272XP CS2CS to work today...think I squeaked a clutch bearing..dumped some oil behind the clutch/sprocket and it shut up. Going to tear things down to see how everything held up to a day and 4 tanks worth of noodling. Kind of curious. The plug check showed a nice brown plug so I bet all is well internally.
Here's one tank's worth...
Started with this..
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Ended with this!
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Quote from: weimedog on March 31, 2011, 08:01:41 AM
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What's the story on that air filter you have on that saw? I like the idea of it better then the black plastic box with air filter inside.
I like it better as well...the filter was in the "Junk pile" I guess 272's came that way. AND BTW that saw went thru a major transformation today...
Up to this point, other than the "Red Neck" muffler mod, the 272 "CS2CS" (Chicken Chit 2 Chicken Soup) has been stock and assembled with all the stock gaskets. It's been put to the noodles test and has a fair amount of cut time is long cuts....a reliable saw. But boring.
SO.. I resurrected a toasted After Market 272XP cylinder that had died a "wolfs head" 10w40 motor in 5 year old gas death! So it was cleaned up and ground on with a die grinder & carbide tool to get to where you see it in these pictures. A practiced eye will see immediately the several differences from the OEM cylinder that came off. (The OEM cylinder is going to visit an ultra sound cleaning tank and after a bath get introduced to a brand new OEM piston....and will go on which ever of the modded CS2CS saws that dies first! Oh...and i also did a more radical mod on a open port 268 CS2CS..but want to run it for a while before I embarrass myself online with pictures of it....they will come later..if it actually run well. It got carb mods, some port timing changes, and a muffler mod my typical pipe way. Really curious how that 268 CS2CS goes relative to this 272Xp CS2CS!)
.I'll post pics along with some tips to quickly change cylinders on that series of saw..I've got it down to 1/2 to swap cylinders on that one.
Here goes....some pics relative to the 272XP-CS2CS!
Pulled the standard 272XP Cylinder off and put a mildly modded one on..just to see if the grinding bears some performance fruit..
A peek at the exhaust port Widened and Chamfered...that's really it. Also matched the exit to the "Red Neck" modded muffler.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/3423/0408112133.jpg)
Transfers
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Intake..(Widened a little but not past the piston skirts internally)
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Exhaust...also widened internally a bit..nothing radical!
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/3423/0408112129.jpg)
Also cut the extra length of the screws holding both the throttle plate and choke plates off...(hope it doesn't get sucked into the motor!!!)
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Some assembly tips:
I assemble the intake right to the cylinder so there is a better seal between all the components...also easier to do when everything is accessible!
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Then I rotate the crank so the piston is in effectively TDC position..furthest out. Then I stuff a screw driver in the flywheel to hold it there, put my 1194 on the case & cylinder base and last but not least put on the ring compressor.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11485/3423/0408112200.jpg)
Just slide on the cylinder/intake assembly....(Remember, I'm a one man show; so there are no extra set of hands!)
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Remove the screw driver and ring compressor (rotate it so you can pull it out the front side after the cylinder is over the rings on the piston) and seat the cylinder in the case..that's it.
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Couple of other things...
1) It is SO much easier to just pull off the covers and handle bar to get at stuff.
2) I used the Red neck muffler mod I had posted a while back...and I usually fill the muffler flange with brass (brazed on) and then file flat to get a really good seal...expecially on those old bent up mufflers!
3) Tip the saw on its side to start the cylinder screws!!1
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Today they both get "noodle" tested...on 2-3ft dia hard maple. They either thrive or cook!
Quote from: weimedog on April 09, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
I like it better as well...the filter was in the "Junk pile" I guess 272's came that way.
See if you can find a part number on that filter we are talking about. smiley_thumbsup
pretty new to the forum & dont get much time to enjoy it with working out of town & all. i was reading about your air filter & it happens that my saw guy has a couple of NOS K&N filter set ups. I run one on my Husky 61 with a muffler mod. they were made by performance connection & come with a blue cover. (add some more color to that Husqred). if you would like i can get some pics of it posted. just a thought, thanks.
Quote from: Cut4fun on April 10, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
Quote from: weimedog on April 09, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
I like it better as well...the filter was in the "Junk pile" I guess 272's came that way.
See if you can find a part number on that filter we are talking about. smiley_thumbsup
WD, I found all the part numbers to put the hd filter set up which was for 268 too and posted them in my husqvarna 268xp 272 thread at chainsawrepair. 8) 8)
So a year later how did those saws turn out? I put a summer on the 272 and its now over at my Brother In Laws...solid performing saw. The surprise was this 268 open port. Its was slightly modded, opened transfers & exhaust, tweaked intake as well. It runs easily as well as the 272 with a livelier feel to it....and almost 40 tree over the last month have really put it to the test..its still building compression and just runs better every outing..
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Hauling another log cut by that little 268
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Second truck load of tree's primarily cut, limbed, and bucked with that 268 open port project.
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I detect a dead ash or two there .Fact being I've been cutting them since summer myself .
Ahh - the ash borer problem... I have pics of a town up in the USPNW that had to cut them all down - many of them alot bigger than what WD has posted here. The town made it into a competition to make chainsaw sculptures with all the stumps over town. Good pics but sad really.
Total removal is about the only option on those dead ash because given enough time they will go over on their own gravity being what it is .
Those urban yard trees are iffy but the woodsy type sure make good lumber and you'd just as well get them before they degrade .
Fact being in my little case on only about 3-4 acres of woods I'll end up with over 10,000 Bd ft of saw logs before they're all down .
As far as selling them ,the mills will take them but being that type business they won't give much for them so sadly to say they're worth more as firewood .
Actually there is no dead ash in any of those loads. The bug hasn't made it here just yet but I guess its inevitable. I have a lot of very high quality tree's on the farm that I decided to take down so I don't loose the value over the next couple of years. Probably have another 50 to 100 trees from what I found yesterday along in the wet area's that are larger then 24inches...:) Headed out right now to pull some while things are frozen.
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Walt I've said it before your place is like a playground for saw nuts.
I see where some of my fellow NYers have been hiding out.
I came across this thread because I'm looking for experienced advice on rebuilding my 1985 Husky 61.
I want to thank weimedog for his time and efforts in documenting his work on this build. His inclusion of photos is much appreciated - They answered much of my new-guy guesswork.
Thanks!
steve
Thank you.....also did a thread I think on blending a 272XP to a 1978 "old style" 61..:)
Nice thread! More pics of the saws at work would be icing on the cake...and I do like icing... ;D
Quote from: ComputerUser on February 29, 2012, 06:25:32 PM
Nice thread! More pics of the saws at work would be icing on the cake...and I do like icing... ;D
Hey there stranger! Sent you a pm.
Ed
smh,welcome to the forum.Good luck with that Husky 61.
Quote from: thecfarm on March 01, 2012, 10:13:14 AM
smh,welcome to the forum.Good luck with that Husky 61.
Thanks! Using info I learned here I did do a 272 'upgrade' (p&c) & muffler mod. The only deviation was I used a hs-224 carb, instead of using the factory 272 hs-260. Reason being I didn't want to hack-up the stock '61 top cover. And, I guess, using the -260 there was that possibility (different filter set-up)? I dunno, but this worked nicely. One question: Does anyone know if there is a performance penalty for that substitution?
In any case, the saw started third pull, runs great. A minor carb adjust to the L seemed to help in the lower rpms. That's all I did. Did I mention it runs great :-) And a noticeably deeper exhaust tone, too.
Post pics! I did mine (1978 vintage 61 with a low profile white cover) and hacked the cover for visual effect more than anything else. Mine was the older style cover so it didn't clear the fins or the spark plug. I posted its build around here somewhere a couple of years back. Its a solid and practical build....they do respond well to certain muffler mods in my experience. Also the old style intake horn and filter can be hogged out and seems to match the later 272 versions (posted pics of that somewhere too)..at least the saw performs well enough you can't really tell the difference vs. my more normal 272's. Did a 266 as well last fall....same thing. Solid performer. Love this 200 series line of saws to hack around with, glad you (And others) have rediscovered these and having fun with them.
I agree on all accounts, weimedog. Until I got into these saws I didn't realize how 'Chevy-like' Husky's are. Meaning that, within the various model runs, you can mix-and-match components to your liking. And that makes tinkering easy and fun for the average Joe. That's just plain cool.
So, the attached pic shows the '61 in midst of teardown. ...oops, either I'm disallowed from uploading or I just don't know how. Sorry, no pic :-(
Anyway, the best metric I have to gauge total usage is by number of chords over it's lifetime; I estimate 200 chords of wood in 10 years, which I believe is realistic, if not conservative.
The piston and cylinder are both "B grade". The piston fits snug in the bore. Using a cheap digital mic, I measured .002-.003 p-to-c. The factory cylinder crosshatch pattern is still visible on the wearing surfaces.
The piston wear pattern is light, imo. And, despite a steady diet of 25-to-1 oil mix of various pedigree, there was minimal carbon, the heaviest of which was in the exhaust port. The piston top and combustion chamber had almost no carbon, more like soot. The cylinder ring has slight blackening on parts of the ring, no carbon in the ring land.
I guess that's it.