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Title: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 02, 2006, 10:07:30 PM
I have been thinking about ways to decrease my setup and take-down time with the mill.  I am 'transportation challenged' with only a Ford ranger (4 cylinder) and a 5' x 8' trailer.  I mounted a truck rack in the trailer and can haul the entire mill rails and all on the trailer.  Thus, there is no longer a need to load things into the truck.  I just hook to the trailer and go.  Today, I figured out that I could leave the uprights together and stand them next to the rack on the trailer.  I strap them to the rack upright next to the rails and they seem to ride OK.  Now when I arrive at the site, I don't have to put the uprights together.  Just unload, attach the rails, position the saw carriage, and start cutting.....In theory.  However, I often cut alone.  Those uprights are a pure pain to handle by myself.  Do any of you leave your uprights together?  If so, do you ever have to handle them alone?  Any tips? 

Many thanks.

Mike
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: pep on May 02, 2006, 10:17:08 PM
Mike

Sorry, Can't help you out on that one, I have my mill set up at my shop and yard.
Haven't broke down my setup yet.  If someone wants custom sawing they can bring the logs to me.

Cheers

Pep
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: solodan on May 03, 2006, 12:55:44 AM
I have left my uprights together if I need to move the mill only a short distance for some reason, but they are hard to handle by yourself unless you ar eight feet tall. :D I personally don't mind breaking down and setting up the uprights, it is actually fairly easy. I think loading and unloading the saw carriage in the back of my truck is more of a pain. I think someone needs to design a drive system  for the saw carriage and some steering, then I can drive it up the ramps and right into the bed of my truck. ;)
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 03, 2006, 08:16:59 AM
Pep,

I am not actually custom sawing for others.  I am sawing logs that other folks give me.  I just don't have a way to move the logs.  So, I go to them. 

Solodan, loading the carriage is no problem with the trailer, as it sits lower to the ground than the truck bed, but I am a few inches shy of 8 feet tall ;) and moving those uprights is a pain.  I'm going to keep studying on it as it really would be a time saver.
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: Lucas_Mill_Pty_Ltd on May 03, 2006, 06:29:23 PM
Dear Brdmkr,

Please find following drawing of carry hook. Length can be modified by you to suit your arm lengh. This will enable you to hold the type pipe with one hand and the hook with the other.

I hope the will enable you to carry around your end frames complete.

Regards

Matthew de Jager
Lucas Mill Pty Ltd

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12000/thumb_Carry%20Hook.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 04, 2006, 08:39:39 AM
I'm sorry, but that can't possibly work.   It is much too simple :D

Thanks.  That should do the trick!
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: jpgreen on May 04, 2006, 08:52:59 AM
Maybe you would feel better if it was real expensive Brdmkr?

You could have it cast in art deco of fine vintage era pewter..  :D
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 04, 2006, 11:02:20 AM
I was thinking it should be brass to keep it from scrtching the metal or generating sparks that could ignite sawdust :D :D :D
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: DanG on May 04, 2006, 11:54:05 PM
Noop, noop, noop!  That will never do.  We gotta figger out some way to make it at least uncomfortable to use, if not downright ineffective.  If we make this look as easy as it really is, everybody will want in on the action!
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 05, 2006, 12:05:51 AM
I'm with you.  I'm thinking levers, pulleys, wheels, and maybe even some simple hydraulics are in order.  A hook with a handle just can't possibly be complex enough. :D

Actually, I figure I'll see if I can fashion me one of those upright carriers this weekend.
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: jpgreen on May 05, 2006, 12:18:22 AM
Whatever you do, don't make the point to sharp. Someone could get hurt, then you would have to sue yourself..  :D
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: Dakota on May 05, 2006, 10:06:52 AM
I'll never admit that one of these hooks was included with my mill purchase, or admit that I couldn't figure out what it was for.  But I know what corner I put it in.
Dakota
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 05, 2006, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: Dakota on May 05, 2006, 10:06:52 AM
I'll never admit that one of these hooks was included with my mill purchase, or admit that I couldn't figure out what it was for.  But I know what corner I put it in.
Dakota

You got a hook!  I didn't get a hook!  Why didn't I get a hook?  I may not sleep.

Mostly, I'm just embarrassed I didn't think to make a hook ;D
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: solodan on May 05, 2006, 11:34:35 PM
I didn't get a hook either. :(
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: tlooney on May 06, 2006, 12:26:21 AM
I got a hook too. Never could figure out what the thing was for, I guess now I know.
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: Lucas_Mill_Pty_Ltd on May 12, 2006, 12:37:09 AM


Sorry to hear some of you guys didn't receive the Hook

We stoped supplying these hooks cause we believed peoples arm sized had increased enough to lift the end frames around without the hook.

If your arms are still not quiet long enough, contact Baileys for the item. If they are out of stock, Ill make sure we send some with our next container load of machines.

The hook was originally made for machines without the quick dismountable end frames we have today. We originally had end frames with stainless steel cable and progressed to chain after the first 400 machines were manufactured The end frames then received another re-design to allow the operator to pull apart and stack them with only 2 pin movements required for disassembly.
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: RichlandSawyer on May 12, 2006, 01:15:25 AM
If i might jump in here i have a question i've been wondering about for awhile. On a swing mill do you vary blade speed for different types of wood?
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: Ianab on May 12, 2006, 03:22:44 AM
QuoteOn a swing mill do you vary blade speed for different types of wood?

Basically no. There are some different blade configurations available for different wood though. Different number teeth and different kerf. These are just fine tuning tweaks really, the standard blades give pretty good results in any wood.

Cheers

Ian
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: BEAVERBOY on May 12, 2006, 06:17:14 PM
Thought I would ring in
I have a couple of these hooks lying around from costomers that picked up their mill from our Laytonville store but had no use for the hook or forgot them. I would be willing to ship these two out at no cost. I just need an address. I am in the process of ordering a container to our Tennessee location and Matt from Lucas Int. promised to send a few extra pieces.
If you are interested, call me
800-322-4539 ext 237
I will be out of the office in 40 minutes but will be checking my messages Monday morning
Thanks
Sam
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: Part_Timer on May 12, 2006, 06:54:10 PM
You just have to love our sponsors here.

Customer has a problem sponsor has an answer

Nice way to do business.

tom
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: Tom on May 12, 2006, 06:57:16 PM
I'll bet the phone is ringing the screws out of the wall.   "At no cost?"

Lucas is taking care of their own, eh?   

Good Show!
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: getoverit on May 12, 2006, 08:51:40 PM
Great Sponsor :)

Thanks Beaverboy!
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: jpgreen on May 12, 2006, 09:33:46 PM
Yeah..! Maybe since Sam is in the giving spirit, I can talk him into giving me a Lucas Mill?..  :D ..........;D
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: sawguy21 on May 12, 2006, 10:25:40 PM
If he can send me one, I'll pick up the shipping ;D Sounds like he and the rest of the Lucas people are great to deal with
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: brdmkr on May 12, 2006, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: Lucas_Mill_Pty_Ltd on May 12, 2006, 12:37:09 AM


Sorry to hear some of you guys didn't receive the Hook

We stoped supplying these hooks cause we believed peoples arm sized had increased enough to lift the end frames around without the hook.


Wasn't expecting that response; it got a good chuckle out of me :D :D :D :D

I just want you to know that I really do appreciate the offer of the hook.  I don't mind paying the shipping.  I have been dealing with Brian out of the TN office.  I'll give him a yell on Monday, or would it be better to call Sam???? 

Thanks again.  I never expected the offer.  The 'hook' was not mentioned in the list of items that was to be shipped with the mill.  So, I am sure all of of us really do appreciate the offer.  This is an exceptional example customer service.
Title: Re: Question for Lucas owners
Post by: jpgreen on May 12, 2006, 11:00:02 PM
Baileys is first class without a doubt..  8)