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« on: August 05, 2008, 10:38:50 AM »
A friend just showed me this:



It is an adapter so that you can use all of your bits from a bit and brace set in your boring machine:



This would allow you to use your entire set of brace bits in your boring machine for when you need a different sized hole for your project.

Here is the offer, if you are interested in having one of these adapters, please make a post into this thread with your name and email address. Or email me privately and I'll start a list of names, and see how many are interested.
I'll begin now to create a measured drawing of this and take it to my machine shop and see how much they would cost to be reproduced.
And I'll make them available to all, once done.

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PS. there are more pictures of this in my "Adapter album" at:
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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 12:52:09 PM »
One for me, please. :)
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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2009, 04:55:50 PM »
sounds great! keep me posted!

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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 09:18:17 AM »
We have done extensive research on creating an exact copy of the one shown. The costs to do them would make them well over $100 each. And due to that price, we have decided not to try and make an exact copy.

I did use this while I was cutting the last frame, I cut.

It worked ok, but sometimes the bit would drop out of the adapter. It was necessary to keep a hold of the bit when moving from one location to another.

I haven't pressed my machine shop guy for a price on creating a modified design. What this newer design would be is a two piece socket for holding the bit, that is slid into a shell to hold the two pieces from separating. Hopefully with one set screw to hold the bit in the socket and the socket into the shell.

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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 11:22:41 AM »
How about just cutting the head off an old brace and turning the shank down?

I see braces all the time for $5 at tag sales.  Would not take but a few minutes if you have a lathe.

Only downside is you will loose some vertical travel due to length of the adapter.



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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 03:46:42 PM »
One of the many boring machines we have purchased to restore, and resell, came through with a brace chuck in the regular boring machine chuck, once.

And as mentioned the travel depth is effected.

But the point was to make an easy to use, and cheap adapter so that everyone who has regular bits for a bit brace can use them in their boring machines.


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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 07:12:20 PM »
I've got a 1/2 dozen tag sale braces ($5), I'll sort the best conversion and report back.



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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 06:54:07 AM »
I have done a similar conversion using the chuck from a hand drill, the type you turn by hand, with the large round gear.  The shank was already the correct size for the boring machine chuck.  It allows any modern bit to be used in the boring machine, it reduces the depth of travel, as well.  But one of Jim's converters would be handy, the price would be the deterrent.

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 06:45:50 PM »
I have done a similar conversion using the chuck from a hand drill, the type you turn by hand, with the large round gear.  The shank was already the correct size for the boring machine chuck.  It allows any modern bit to be used in the boring machine, it reduces the depth of travel, as well.  But one of Jim's converters would be handy, the price would be the deterrent.

Tim

I've got one of those hand drills too but it's too nice to butcher. 

The hardest part of making the adapter is the 4 sided taper.  I've a good friend who runs his own shop and he has one of the newer machines that "burns " the metal with carbon electrodes. If the electrode is not too much to make then it is just set up costs for a run.  I'll ask him.

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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 08:21:05 AM »
I've a good friend who runs his own shop and he has one of the newer machines that "burns " the metal with carbon electrodes. If the electrode is not too much to make then it is just set up costs for a run.  I'll ask him.

Mad P: I looked into this and the cost was very high to do this.
I have someone else who thinks they can produce these very easily and hopefully at a low cost.
He will be attempting to make a prototype shortly.
Please stand by and I will update you as soon as I know more.

We may do a run of 15 or more of these to start......
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 09:14:43 AM »
If you're looking for a machine shop to build that adapter, you just might be looking in the wrong place. A good blacksmith could make them quick and easy. If there are any amish clans nearby, check with them.
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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 01:18:59 PM »
pineywoods:
Thanks for the suggestion, and I may consider it, if the current deal doesn't work out.....

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Re: Adapter offer
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 10:10:55 PM »
I looked into the smithing approach last year, but never had time to proceed with it. A friend of mine is a hobby machinest, and suggested milling a negative form to put in the hardy hole. I might give him a nudge at some point, but not now, he just finished a 40 hour project for me. ;)

Now we just need a tapered square hole. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 07:44:15 AM »
Dave, did that chuck rotate in a square pattern or a round pattern?  I can see both, but the chuck itself orbits, how?

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2009, 10:38:49 AM »
Not sure how it works really. The more I poke around on YouTube, the more odd things I discover that I never knew existed.
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 07:23:59 PM »
I think I know what you mean about youtube. 

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