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Title: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 19, 2020, 02:15:14 AM
Hi all,

I got a Timbery M100 about 4 years ago. My now retired friend would rather be in a tree than just about anything else, so one day he was talking about the chain saw mill he has (threaded rod and piece of steel) and wanted to cut an oak he just cut down. I had him run us out to the WM dealer to look around. We left with the M100 on order (I wanted the LT15 wide but was talked out of it... whole other story). Having this saw is completely just a hobby. He ends up with logs, now I have a way to cut them up!! I do have to say there is something about cutting a log into boards that is ... I don't know, relaxing, zen like, it just makes me smile !!

I have not cut a lot, the saw can set for months between use, but we have cut redwood, ceder, oak, pine, fir, cherry, apricot, liquid amber (i think), and ..... there are walnut orchards north of me, so I'm hunting some walnut to cut!!

As soon as I figure out the photos, I will add some.

I intend on adding to this thread with updates. maybe "what we cut lately" type of thing.
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 19, 2020, 02:31:58 AM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/63484/IMG_3550s.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1608362792)
 
Here is the latest batch of logs, looks like we will work on these tomorrow!
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Barebuttminer on December 20, 2020, 02:10:17 AM
Quote from: Erik A on December 19, 2020, 02:15:14 AM
Hi all,

I got a Timbery M100 about 4 years ago. My now retired friend would rather be in a tree than just about anything else, so one day he was talking about the chain saw mill he has (threaded rod and piece of steel) and wanted to cut an oak he just cut down. I had him run us out to the WM dealer to look around. We left with the M100 on order (I wanted the LT15 wide but was talked out of it... whole other story). Having this saw is completely just a hobby. He ends up with logs, now I have a way to cut them up!! I do have to say there is something about cutting a log into boards that is ... I don't know, relaxing, zen like, it just makes me smile !!

I have not cut a lot, the saw can set for months between use, but we have cut redwood, ceder, oak, pine, fir, cherry, apricot, liquid amber (i think), and ..... there are walnut orchards north of me, so I'm hunting some walnut to cut!!

As soon as I figure out the photos, I will add some.

I intend on adding to this thread with updates. maybe "what we cut lately" type of thing.
Erik A (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53484)
Looking for walnut; take a drive down Bear River Drive between Rio Oso and Wheatland. There are a lot of walnut growers out there. I think the trick is to catch them when the cutters are in the orchards and talk to them; you have to get there before they cut other wise they will dice the logs into firewood.
If you are looking for black walnut you might check out all the new construction going on along PFE Road between Antelope and Roseville. They are cutting down all the old Black Walnut trees that line that road and hauling them to the dump, a real waste of good lumber in my opinion.
 
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: donbj on December 20, 2020, 02:57:12 AM
Quote from: Barebuttminer on December 20, 2020, 02:10:17 AMThey are cutting down all the old Black Walnut trees that line that road and hauling them to the dump, a real waste of good lumber in my opinion.


Oh that hurts! We have to mortgage our houses up here for that stuff.
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: SawyerTed on December 20, 2020, 06:36:21 AM
Welcome to the forum.  
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: thecfarm on December 20, 2020, 11:01:44 AM
Erik A welcome to the forum.
Looks like we have a lot in common, sawing and rocks!!! I've been digging rocks on this place for 50 years, still have more to go. The bog is not filled yet!!  ;D
Whatcha's you doing with all the lumber?

This is a nice thread to post your sawing to,

whatcha sawin' 2020 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=108941.0)
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 20, 2020, 01:00:03 PM
My brothers saw up in Oregon, he has been running it for ? ? ?  over 30 years for sure!
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/63484/IMG_6191mb-saw.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1608487143)
 
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 20, 2020, 01:18:17 PM
Thanks everybody for the welcome.

"Whatcha's you doing with all the lumber?"

One project is a timber frame breeze way between the shop and house (why build it out of spindly 4X4's?). Questions to follow in the timber frame forum!

Otherwise, not much right now! I have a friend with a problem..... he seems to need to bring me logs (ok, not a bad problem!) The logs above came from Paradise. PG&E cut the trees down and that is the extent of there concern! Then the city told the home owner standing dead trees are ok, on the ground no way, we are going to fine you if you do not remove them, so now some of it is at my house!
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/63484/20200606_192845-redwood.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1608488154)
 

Some redwood siding I made for my 3 year old niece (building a play house in her back yard!)
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Brad_bb on December 20, 2020, 02:03:13 PM
Welcome Erik!  Looks like some 36"+ logs in that picture above.   I'm not familiar with a Timery mill.  Maybe post a pic?  Can it handle 36"+?  Hopefully you have a machine with forks to move them?
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Patrick NC on December 20, 2020, 06:53:21 PM
Welcome to the forum. I started with a m100. It was a good little mill. Looks like you are making pretty nice lumber with it. 
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Ljohnsaw on December 20, 2020, 11:07:58 PM
Welcome!  I'd gladly take some of that pine off your friend's hands!  But can't get into my property for another 6 months :(
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 20, 2020, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: ljohnsaw on December 20, 2020, 11:07:58 PM
Welcome!  I'd gladly take some of that pine off your friend's hands!  But can't get into my property for another 6 months :(
His friend has a log truck with a self loader, thats how the 36 to 44" logs got to me, might be able to work to your advantage this spring?
Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 21, 2020, 11:47:10 PM
A little about the M100.

It has been a nice saw. It had 7 or 9hp standard, and when I ordered, they offered a 14 hp (subaru), so I got the 14hp and one extension so if I'm careful I can cut 16.5'. I was told it would cut 29" but I found the distance between the guides give you 20.5". We figured that would be fairly large logs to deal with so should work out ok...... Now I have 42-44" logs in the yard, go figure.

Compared to digging with a shovel my L35 is great, trying to move 24" logs... not so much. We have had to drag one end of a log to the saw, set one end then lift the other to get it on the saw bed!!

This brings me to the question - How do you get a 44" log through a 20" saw?

Title: Re: Introduction: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 21, 2020, 11:59:31 PM
We are making 12' timbers so ripping the logs into quarters with a chain saw. I think it took 5+ tanks of gas to go through the first one

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Just ripping the log in half, it is still to heavy to lift!! Have to have quarters to move them. this gives me 32 timbers without the pith(?) in the center of them! One problem with the M100, it has less than 7" from the blade to the frame, so I can only make one timber from a log by cutting all 4 sides! It looks like the LT15 (the one I wanted) does not have much more than that? This is why I'm thinking of making a Lucas slaber style saw and frame
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 22, 2020, 12:19:37 AM
We did not get to cut any more today, I bought some wood working tools last March from a school (150 miles away) and then they shut down for a little bug!

Then I get very busy during the summer and fall and the trailer I used went back east for 3 months! anyway, I finally got to go up and get them today.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/63484/IMG_20201221_143555_990-s.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1608613827)
 

You can ask, but I don't know why, I guess its like climbing a mountain, because it was there, or hey you need 44" logs for your 20" saw!!

By the way, anybody need their table top slab sanded??
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Ljohnsaw on December 22, 2020, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: Erik A on December 21, 2020, 11:59:31 PMOne problem with the M100, it has less than 7" from the blade to the frame, so I can only make one timber from a log by cutting all 4 sides!
Are you talking from the blade UP to the saw frame?  My homemade saw was ~20" but I added a brace to help stop the flexing and reduce that to 11".  But, that did not stop me from making 5x18" beams.  I just whittle down from the outside making side wood along the way.  Also, the blade length between the guides (~27") is not the limiting factor (in my case) as much as how high I can make the blade go for the first cut (29").  The other limiting factor is the distance between the uprights (4 post head).  Currently is 42" but rebuilding it over the winter to accommodate at least 48" wide and a lift height closer to 45".  Then I can whittle down a 48" cedar log I have.
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Ljohnsaw on December 22, 2020, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Erik A on December 22, 2020, 12:19:37 AMBy the way, anybody need their table top slab sanded??
:o How wide is that sander?  I've got a bunch of wide live-edge cedar slabs that I'll be using a router sled on.  That would certainly make life easier!
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Ljohnsaw on December 23, 2020, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: Barebuttminer on December 20, 2020, 02:10:17 AMIf you are looking for black walnut you might check out all the new construction going on along PFE Road between Antelope and Roseville. They are cutting down all the old Black Walnut trees that line that road and hauling them to the dump, a real waste of good lumber in my opinion.

Lately, I've been driving from the tracks in Roseville (the start of PFE Road) to Walegra and haven't seen any.  Today I went all the way to the other end of PFE and saw only two knarly standing ones that didn't look to be at risk of being cut down.  The whole area is bare west of Walegra.  East of Walegra has a number of old, big, crooked oaks along the fence lines.  Guess I'm a day late :(

For those wondering what PFE stands for - Pacific Fruit Exchange.  The Roseville yard (largest west of the Mississippi) was the center of the huge fruit shipping center in the last century (1900's).
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on December 25, 2020, 12:20:22 AM
Funny thing, i know the inspector for the job on pfe. He said they chipped all the trees  :o

The sander is 37" 
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: 47sawdust on December 26, 2020, 06:19:15 AM
Nice logs.Looks like a MD mill would make short work of them for framing lumber.
Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: Erik A on January 14, 2021, 03:10:19 AM
Here is the redwood trees that started this odyssey!!


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/63484/rw2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1610611291)
 Thats me in the orange!!
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Title: Re: Intro: Me and my M100 in Sacramento
Post by: DDW_OR on March 31, 2021, 01:45:18 PM
fyi, Wood-Mizer can be modified to cut wider.
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=84823.msg1297441;topicseen#msg1297441 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=84823.msg1297441;topicseen#msg1297441)