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Dan_Shade

January 04, 2008, 05:44:52 PM
Anybody know what the normal moisture content is for eastern red cedar from a "fresh" tree?

also, does anyone know how long does it take it to air dry enough to be glued? 
Woodmizer LT40HDG25 / Stihl 066 alaskan
lots of dull bands and chains

There's a fine line between turning firewood into beautiful things and beautiful things into firewood.

woodmills1

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January 04, 2008, 11:38:08 PM
I would sticker and air dry outside 6-8 winter months or 4-6 summer months, then sticker inside for 6-8 weeks before gluing.  If you don't have a moisture meter you can find moisture content if you can get your hands on a tripple beam balance or othe relatively good scale or weight device.  Post and I will tell you how if you are interested.
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Dan_Shade

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January 05, 2008, 12:38:48 AM
I've been asked to make a set of simple shutters, pretty much just a wide glue up for the windows, so they'll live outside.  So the wood should be ready for use at some point this summer?

I have a moisture meter, I was just wondering how long it would take to be usable....
Woodmizer LT40HDG25 / Stihl 066 alaskan
lots of dull bands and chains

There's a fine line between turning firewood into beautiful things and beautiful things into firewood.

Furby

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January 05, 2008, 12:44:07 AM
ERC is a very dry wood to start with.
When Stump Jumper and I were cutting it in OK, it was drying so fast it would blow your mind.
If I were you, I'd cut it right away and bring it inside the house.
Give it a month and use a water proof glue and I'd say your good, but that's just a guess.
I'm drying some W. Pine in tee pees over my heat vents right now. :)
I'm thinking for shutters, I'd use some biscuits with the glue.

Cedarman

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January 05, 2008, 07:44:12 AM
Heartwood is somewhere around 25 to 30 %. Sapwood is off the scale on the meter, probably about 40 to 50 %. 
Summertime, cedar on sticks will air dry to 12% in a couple of weeks if 1".
Wintertime depends on weather.
In winter if I just need 20 or so boards, I cut them, put them in the break room at the mill and they are ready in a week or so.  Usually down to 9 or 10%.
We can dry up to 8000 feet in a drying room that I built using an outdoor wood furnace to supply hot water to 2 radiators.  It will keep the temp differential from inside to outside  at 30 to 40 degrees. Lets the cedar dry softly.  No side bending or cracking.

As Furby said, cedar dries fast.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

Dan_Shade

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January 05, 2008, 10:16:41 AM
what's the warp potential?  how much weight do I need to put on it?

Woodmizer LT40HDG25 / Stihl 066 alaskan
lots of dull bands and chains

There's a fine line between turning firewood into beautiful things and beautiful things into firewood.

Cedarman

#6
January 05, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
When drying in the building, I never put any weight on the stack.  Cedar since it shrinks so little when drying moves very little.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

Furby

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January 05, 2008, 03:14:24 PM
Stuff I have here has been great, little to no movement at all.
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