Log Prices?

ehp · February 14, 2025, 03:06:07 PM

Soft maple down $25/1000 , biggest mover this week was white pine , the big timber logs down $125/100

Kodiakmac · February 14, 2025, 08:04:15 PM

Best market here is small neighbourhood mills buying white cedar at $900 to $1000 CAD ($635 - $705 USD) per mbf.

The closest mill that buys hardwood is paying pretty decent prices but the 1.5 hour trucking time REALLY takes a huge bite out of your cheque. And I don't blame the truckers. At $7.20 CAD per US gallon plus all the regulatory costs it's a wonder that any of them are still hauling.

Nebraska · February 14, 2025, 09:07:53 PM

2.99 / gallon unleaded here in the states if you care to join us.

beenthere · February 14, 2025, 11:21:36 PM

$2.79 in WI today

SwampDonkey · February 15, 2025, 01:20:46 AM

Diesel boys, not gas. We pay refinery tax and carbon taxes up here thanks to Trudeau. Spend it to subsidize any nonsense they can dream up.

Nebraska · February 15, 2025, 08:14:57 AM

I know it was diesel,

just haven't bought any since bulk farm tank was filled in November. I just looked it was 3.19 for #1red and 2.55 #2 red. Blended load. Feel sorry for Canadian fuel prices.
I also noticed ERC log prices are down on the mill website I follow once in a while to .47 bf, to get back to the purpose of the thread.

ehp · February 20, 2025, 05:27:26 PM

If things slow down any more we all be telling Barge to put some videos of him on the boat so we have something to do as we sit on the couch , It's not looking to great around here

SwampDonkey · February 20, 2025, 07:20:02 PM

Oh well, come May 1st you can always come cut brush by the hectare. Cut your fortune that way. The thing about living in NB, you don't know when the hard times hit, because there never is much for good times. My grandfather always said during the depression there was always sportsman coming to hunt and fish so he could guide and wood to cut in the winter. Never ran out of work.

barbender · February 21, 2025, 12:42:27 AM

Northern MN is much the same, Donk. The fortunes of the rest of the country ebb and flow, while here it just seems to stay flat all the time.

ehp · February 21, 2025, 07:53:25 AM

thing that is happening here is mill is getting few orders these days , yard is full and I mean full. Other mills to the north have shut down so all there bigger loggers just switched and sent to this mill , The timber from up north is big but not much good stuff but when mill is cutting timbers their stuff is good for that , timber logs are paying as much or more that real good butt logs , Mill has enough stuff in yard to last them most likely 3 or so months if they are going full bore

chep · February 21, 2025, 09:56:58 AM

Cutting mostly ash right now. Avg a little over 90 cents a ft.
We did have a couple yards that were paying 1.25 for butts and 2nd logs but seems like their export market has gotten real tight cos they said no more logs.
It's sad cutting the ash out of woodlots, but it's on its way out with eab already here. Trying to make the landowner some return on their timber

ehp · February 28, 2025, 08:09:36 PM

In my area you do not find much ash thats a live , most of the ash is on the ground now and junk. We still find some but in most cases it has to be not many trees per acre so the bug missed them . I can remember 35 years ago getting $1800/1000 for ash veneer for a average , now a days maybe $750/1000 and no more veneer .

ehp · February 28, 2025, 08:11:01 PM

Pretty much ash, soft maple and red oak all pay about the same for saw logs .

SwampDonkey · March 01, 2025, 01:13:49 AM

They have detected the ash borer in New Brunswick and Maine a few years ago. But so far the ash in my area is still healthy. I have thousands of ash, but most is young stuff. We have some big ash along fence rows and creeks that border fields, non dying....yet. We have a mill near here that takes ash logs exclusively, they make handle wood. Garant's. They might pay $350-550 range for logs. Ash and red maple were never high value logs here. I'll bet the price is about the same now for 35 years. And as low as $250 for red maple, even today. They get all they need off crown, so way pay more?

No one can compete with the government. This means most of it is sent to pulp, not worth sorting. Hard to find a decent red maple that the moose have not ripped the bark off.

ehp · March 05, 2025, 12:35:29 AM

Now lets see how the log prices go , I know a bigger veneer sale that was to happen today did not happen cause of the tariffs , I'm pretty lucky as I only got a bit of coin out in standing bush that I bought , I watched pretty close what I was doing, I know lots of guys that got a fair bit of coin out in standing timber and its going to hurt them pretty hard

ehp · March 07, 2025, 08:29:54 PM

veneer sale did go this week and was a fair bit better than I figured with all the trouble going on , hard maple sold quite well also

nativewolf · March 08, 2025, 08:45:19 AM

Quote from: ehp on March 05, 2025, 12:35:29 AMNow lets see how the log prices go , I know a bigger veneer sale that was to happen today did not happen cause of the tariffs , I'm pretty lucky as I only got a bit of coin out in standing bush that I bought , I watched pretty close what I was doing, I know lots of guys that got a fair bit of coin out in standing timber and its going to hurt them pretty hard

Still not sure if the tariffs hurt Canada. Might help your hardwood mills grab some market in China, Mexico, and EU.