A customer in Columbia, S.C........1 hour and 20 minutes South of me is bringing 60 or more logs. He has already brought 15 nice'ns. All of these straight Loblollys are in the 20 inch range.
He will make several trips with his newly bought 14 foot goose neck trailer with NO FENDERS. 8)
He will be giving me a cut list for the whole kit and caboodle.
Now......when he picks his trailer up, he will head to West Michigan, between Holland and Grand Rapids where he will start a cabin.
He wants all his lumber stacked and stickers on the trailer and he will strap it down.
He will be making several trips to Michigan.
I guess this will work....I've just never done it like this before. ::)
Yes, I have stickered framing lumber on trailers before, but none of it went to Michigan. He sounds like a good cu$tomer. ;D
Sticker it and band it if you can that will keep it tight . I band mine even if its sitting on the yard
Whew!! When I read the title, I was getting worried about the goat. Regards, Clark
Air dried at 70 mph...won't be any mold on that lumber. What a novel idea. :D :D
I can't believe you've never heard of a trailer with no fenders. ;D
Quote from: NWP on March 24, 2015, 09:39:45 PM
I can't believe you've never heard of a trailer with no fenders. ;D
;D
yea, did it for a fellow out of Kansas way with oak, it works just fine, good plan there for sure,
I will say, and pretty much know in my mind, you are bragging, don't blame ya, it's a southern thang ;D
lay'em and slay'em, I'm sure you can hit the numbers, right?
Was told here once before about making sure that a stickered load is tarped for travel. Otherwise it will dry out way too fast. So the load got tarped.
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Will be interested in seeing the pics of the stickered stacks on the trailer. Cutting all the same length logs, or different lengths?
I'd worry some about the air drying, and the shrinkage, and keeping the straps tight enough that boards don't work loose along the way. Hope he has a good plan.
Needs to be tarped. That is a lot of harsh drying.
Is he going to bring your stickers back?
See now, Jake cut right to the heart of the matter !
FRank
Will you be able to get a full load with the stickers making your stack twice as tall? Seems like a good idea.
Brother Been.....yes I'm gonna take pics. If I said I had a poot in a jar, you would wanna see it. :D
I do not know the length of the logs yet. I only have 15 and they are 10 foot. Some of the other logs should be here this weekend.
CustomSawyer......not gonna use my stickers. Gonna saw his out of his logs. He will take a load....stack and sticker it at the cabin site and come back to S.C.
And about the air flow.......we put fans on our green wood....IMO, I don't think the air flow from a trailer ride will harm the wood at all.
SHAKE BONE.......good idea, I will band it on the trailer then let him strap it.
drobertson........I will BRAG when the job is FINISHED.......yep....its a SOUTHERN THANG.
I just loaded one yesterday that way but it was just going to Florida.The guy has picked up several loaded that way.You just have to check your straps from time to time so things don't get ugly.
SC to MI, that's a lot of states. Has he checked to make sure the departments of agriculture, DOT, Border patrol, homeland security and school safety patrol are all going to be ok with him bring green lumber through?
I've shipped some stickered lumber. I put the straps right on the stickers, and it seems to hold together ok. I know I wouldn't want to ship hardwood green and untarped. A friend of mine used to have a flatbed and all lumber was tarped. Construction lumber always had their own lumber tarps from the mill, and for green lumber he had to use his tarp.
If it was stickered green grade hardwood, it would destroy the grade from surface check if not covered.
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 24, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
A customer in Columbia, S.C........................
He wants all his lumber stacked and stickers on the trailer and he will strap it down.
............
Sorry, I think I misread this as the lumber being hauled while being stickered. But seems will be solid stacked with stickers sent along with. Maybe not the only one to get that impression.
Poston then said
QuoteHe will take a load....stack and sticker it at the cabin site and come back to S.C.
:D If the load isn't stickered while traveling, then you can forget the pics. I was more curious how the stickered load would be stacked and held down. But looks like that isn't a part of the plan. ;)
Been that's the same impression I got, then again I did not take goat in school so who knows!! I did have images of a multi wing airplane like contraption heading down the road though!!!
Me too! What he said ^^^^^^ :-\
Quote from: beenthere on March 25, 2015, 10:46:38 AM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 24, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
A customer in Columbia, S.C........................
He wants all his lumber stacked and stickers on the trailer and he will strap it down.
............
Sorry, I think I misread this as the lumber being hauled while being stickered. But seems will be solid stacked with stickers sent along with. Maybe not the only one to get that impression.
Poston then said QuoteHe will take a load....stack and sticker it at the cabin site and come back to S.C.
:D If the load isn't stickered while traveling, then you can forget the pics. I was more curious how the stickered load would be stacked and held down. But looks like that isn't a part of the plan. ;)
I stickered green red oak with 3/4" stickers, a 2x3 on the bottom, and bundled them tight with 3/4 poly straps about every 24". "Forkable bundles" about 1000#max for easy loading & unloading. After loading, the trucker put his wide poly straps over the bundles and cranked down on them. The ratchet handle was about 4' long and he was hanging on it. Then everything got tarped as shown in the pic above.
Brother Been......my apoligies ......I wrote it wrong.
He wants the lumber stickered ON the trailer while he travels .
I will take pics. This is the first time I'be typed something rong. :D
Quote from: Jeff on March 25, 2015, 10:20:10 AM
If it was stickered green grade hardwood, it would destroy the grade from surface check if not covered.
so how big is the cabin going to be?
only a yupper would go to the carolinas for lumber :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I've got nothing to do with this. Whats a yupper?
I thought all lumber hauled 50 miles from its origin or across state lines had to have a certificate that it was kiln dried, or chemically treated to kill bugs that may be hitch hiking along. :)
That's a cross between a yuppie and a yuper. ;D
sorry, yoooper
from the dictionary,
"fully crazed northern Michigan people who wear funny hats"
Quote from: 21incher on March 25, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
I thought all lumber hauled 50 miles from its origin or across state lines had to have a certificate that it was kiln dried, or chemically treated to kill bugs that may be hitch hiking along. :)
That may be in New York, I would have no idea, but it definitely is not so here in Michigan.
50 miles is for firewood. . . EAB
Actually since you guys mentioned it there could be a gypsy moth quarantine issue here. Not really sure what the regs with lumber with no bark would be. I know to send logs from here to there I would have a few hoops to jump through.
Just another reason to tarp it
Quote from: Jeff on March 25, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: 21incher on March 25, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
I thought all lumber hauled 50 miles from its origin or across state lines had to have a certificate that it was kiln dried, or chemically treated to kill bugs that may be hitch hiking along. :)
That may be in New York, I would have no idea, but it definitely is not so here in Michigan.
The NY DEC site says that the USDA APHIS controls interstate firewood, log, and sawn lumber movement, but it only seems to control hardwoods. :)
Look....this guy lives in Columbia S.C. He has land in Michigan.
He has a friend in Columbia that is felling Pines on his farm in Columbia and giving him ALL the Pine and some Red Oak.
He could not find a band mill close to Columbia to saw his lumber. He found me through the Woodmizer website.
I do not know the size of his cabin. My customers can haul their lumber anyway they want to.....just as long as they pick it up, pay and get it out of the way.
I do not get into the laws from state to state about transporting lumber.....I run a sawmill.
My off bearer is a Highway Patrolman. He does not care where the lumber goes and does not know or enforce these laws.
So this is how it stands.
We would send out 20-30,000 board feet a day of green hardwood, and none of our deliveries were within even 100 miles. We didn't haul to other states however as all our markets were in Michigan.
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
Look....this guy lives in Columbia S.C. He has land in Michigan.
He has a friend in Columbia that is felling Pines on his farm in Columbia and giving him ALL the Pine and some Red Oak.
He could not find a band mill close to Columbia to saw his lumber. He found me through the Woodmizer website.
I do not know the size of his cabin. My customers can haul their lumber anyway they want to.....just as long as they pick it up, pay and get it out of the way.
I do not get into the laws from state to state about transporting lumber.....I run a sawmill.
My off bearer is a Highway Patrolman. He does not care where the lumber goes and does not know or enforce these laws.
So this is how it stands.
Yes, I apparently started something with my joke about the school safety patrol.
I agree with you. You cut it, they lug it.
:-X
Whack it and stack it.
I do it on the regular. Almost to a T. Gooseneck trailer, no fenders, stickered lumber, going from South Carolina New York State to Michigan New York State.
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Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
Look.... So this is how it stands.
Welcome to "Saws-um-and-Leaves-um". ;D
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
He found me through the Woodmizer website.
I do not know the size of his cabin. My customers can haul their lumber anyway they want to.....just as long as they pick it up, pay and get it out of the way.
I do not get into the laws from state to state about transporting lumber.....I run a sawmill.
My off bearer is a Highway Patrolman. He does not care where the lumber goes and does not know or enforce these laws.
So is what you are sa
wying that -
First they call to talk about the job and you jaw with them
Then they show up with their logs and you saw on them
When you're done with their boards there's not a flaw in them.
If it comes to what he does with the wood you don't quote the law to them
And if anyone asks anymore questions about it that'll be the last straw for them?
:D
I have taken a load of sawed and sticker poplar from Virginia to New Mexico. One of the things we did, thinking of the air flow, we cut the size of the stickers in half. This really cut the size of the stack down. But with him needing the stickers in Michigan, I don't know if you can do it or not.
his buddy cut the logs in columbia? was his name jaun :)
my feeling is the lumber won't air dry much on the trip, most air flow needs to go cross ways on the bundles to carry the water out,since the bundles will be end ways on the trailer no worries plus you cant dry pine to fast,even if it came from columbia ;D
I used to have a customer in Phoenix, AZ that wanted it the same way. Sticker stacked on his trailer. He would come when I told him it was ready, and I would load stickered bundles of mostly Ponderosa Pine 1x12's with the tractor. I never saw him tarp it, and I have no idea how it turned out for him. But he did come back several times. ;D
Phoenix is about 550 miles from me.
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 25, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
Yes, I apparently started something with my joke about the school safety patrol.
See me after class. :D
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 25, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
Yes, I apparently started something with my joke about the school safety patrol.
See me after class. :D
You going to take me out behind Jakes woodshed?
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 25, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 25, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
Yes, I apparently started something with my joke about the school safety patrol.
See me after class. :D
You going to take me out behind Jakes woodshed?
No....I'm gonna band your wrist and put a tarp over you. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 25, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 25, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
Yes, I apparently started something with my joke about the school safety patrol.
See me after class. :D
You going to take me out behind Jakes woodshed?
No....I'm gonna band your wrist and put a tarp over you. :D :D :D :D :D :D
As long as you band my wrist and not anything else.
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
Look....this guy lives in Columbia S.C. He has land in Michigan.
He has a friend in Columbia that is felling Pines on his farm in Columbia and giving him ALL the Pine and some Red Oak.
He could not find a band mill close to Columbia to saw his lumber. He found me through the Woodmizer website.
I do not know the size of his cabin. My customers can haul their lumber anyway they want to.....just as long as they pick it up, pay and get it out of the way.
I do not get into the laws from state to state about transporting lumber.....I run a sawmill.
My off bearer is a Highway Patrolman. He does not care where the lumber goes and does not know or enforce these laws.
So this is how it stands.
Man oh man - who peed on your alfalfa??
Quote from: Southside logger on March 25, 2015, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 25, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
Look....this guy lives in Columbia S.C. He has land in Michigan.
He has a friend in Columbia that is felling Pines on his farm in Columbia and giving him ALL the Pine and some Red Oak.
He could not find a band mill close to Columbia to saw his lumber. He found me through the Woodmizer website.
I do not know the size of his cabin. My customers can haul their lumber anyway they want to.....just as long as they pick it up, pay and get it out of the way.
I do not get into the laws from state to state about transporting lumber.....I run a sawmill.
My off bearer is a Highway Patrolman. He does not care where the lumber goes and does not know or enforce these laws.
So this is how it stands.
Man oh man - who peed on your alfalfa??
its not a good idea to mess with that goat... there was a whole video game made based on his exploits.... he can cause serious havoc...
and if the video game is accurate, he can also fly.... :)
Quote from: jueston on March 26, 2015, 01:57:06 PM
and if the video game is accurate, he can also fly.... :)
.........off the handle!!!! poston-smiley
Birdie, birdie in the sky,
dropped some whitewash in my eye.
Me no baby, me no cry, but
I'm sure glad that GOATS don't fly. :) :) :)
^ that reminds me of a song mamaw sings:
I was watching a bird on high,
When something fell in my eye,
As I wiped it away, I was reluctant to say,
Thank goodness cows don't fly!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
My customer was suppose to leave Columbia with a load of logs and be here by 11 am yesterday. He bought a new to him, 20 ft. Gooseneck to haul his logs.
He had to go through the weight station right out of Columbia and he was 6,000 pounds over weight.
He called and said it would be next week. He was not very happy.
So the school safety patrol got him after all.
Quote from: Ocklawahaboy on March 29, 2015, 05:40:24 PM
So the school safety patrol got him after all.
:D :D :D :D :D I guess....it was a real short conversation. :D :D :D :D :D
What a datgum shame..they should be busting the drug cartels not the working folks. Don't they know that the welfare recipients depend on us
Refer him to dieselboss.com - lots of very valuable information that will be of value to him given the nature of his plans and geographic challenge involved.
4x4AMERICAN its easier to get money out of a working man !!
Thats true, but wrong!
Started sawing the 12x12 beams today. These are 8 foot. I have 60 of these to saw.
12, 16, and 21 foot logs will be here toward the end of the month.
These will be delivered by a tractor trailer. :)
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Don't your shoes fill up with sawdust?
Quote from: Peter Drouin on May 14, 2015, 06:20:25 AM
Don't your shoes fill up with sawdust?
Both of them. ;D
Have fun with the 21' logs. They will get your goat for sure ;D
It's good to see that this sawing project came through for you. 8)
A lot more to saw. The customer is actually looking to get a guy with 42 foot trailer to bring logs. :)
I am just now starting this job.
You ought to be wearing some ear muffs.
smiley_hardhat "Wha...?
I SAID, YOU OUGHT TO BE WEARING EAR MUFFS.