Western Red Cedar

[panhandle]

I prefer to cut 5/8" x 8" boards because they can be stacked and stickered to dry, and then used directly off the pile. They can even be installed green, provided you nail them properly and install the proper face outward.

Can you describe how to nail them properly and which face should be outward?

Excellent information in this post, thanks!

[Bruno of NH]

When I was selling Japanese red cedar for the lumber wholesaler it was 1x6 v match 
They could only get 8' , 10' and 12'
I sold lots of it fast for great money. 
Lots of folks wanted longer lengths and timbers 
If it was mine and I had your equipment 
I would make 16 ' 18 ' and 20' 1x6 v match

[Brucer]

Can you describe how to nail them properly and which face should be outward?

I've got some diagrams on my off-line computer. I'll try to move them over here this weekend.

[customsawyer]

I make what I call a V-Groove in pine and cypress. Never heard of a V match product. Can you please post a picture of what you are referring to? All of my Google searches has pictures of what I call V-Groove. I can make the V-Groove or the nickle gap ship lap no problem. I prefer to make mine out of 1x8 instead of 1x6 though. As this gives me a smaller percentage going out the blower pipe.

[trimguy]

These posts are 10" x 10" x 10' ,the length has  been cut to fit. These posts were $625 from a local lumber yard. Plus tax.

Maybe you have a higher end builder that you can work out a deal with ?

[Bruno of NH]

In New England some folks refer to V groove as v match 
It's one of them regional things 

[scsmith42]

I prefer to cut 5/8" x 8" boards because they can be stacked and stickered to dry, and then used directly off the pile. They can even be installed green, provided you nail them properly and install the proper face outward.

Can you describe how to nail them properly and which face should be outward?

Excellent information in this post, thanks!

Depends upon how they are installed.  The natural inclination of lumber is for the growth rings to try to flatten out. When you're building a deck, if the boards cup you want them to cup up in the middle, so that water flows off of the edges of the deck boards.  So you would install the boards "bark side down".  

For siding, if it's board and batten with the nails being  hidden under the battens, I prefer to install "bark side out" so that the nails and batten clamp resists the wood movement.

If it's board and batten with the boards nailed in the middle of the board, then I prefer bark side in so that the nail acts as a clamp to keep the board from cupping too badly.

[jpassardi]

In New England some folks refer to V groove as v match
It's one of them regional things 

Yes, My Father who was a Carpenter also called them match boards. -Yankee term I guess...

[customsawyer]

I'm wondering if we are talking about the same product or are some talking about what I call end matching. Where you put the V-groove on the ends of the boards at the butt joints.

[Bruno of NH]

I'm wondering if we are talking about the same product or are some talking about what I call end matching. Where you put the V-groove on the ends of the boards at the butt joints.

I did that in my bedroom with 8' v groove boards on the walls and ceiling
The other bedroom has 6" edge and center bead . Some folks call it boxcar siding 
The rest of the house has 6 " v groove 
The 6" is very popular here

[customsawyer]

Sawed some of the logs up yesterday. About a third of them has some rot pockets that at first was annoying. Then I decided that I'm going to market them as (pecky) cedar and charge extra like I do for pecky cypress.   Some is coming out really nice.



This one is 48" on the butt end.

[Dan R]

Jake,
Here in British Columbia on the west coast that rot looks to me to be what we think of as powder worm. I'll get a picture of some of my cedar that the inside is full of it. 
Dan

[customsawyer]

I'll look closer at it today but it didn't look like a bore tunnel when I first saw it, but I wasn't looking for that. Appreciate any and all help I can get.

[caveman]

The lumber packs look good.  I assume you can fly through it.  How close to final length are you bucking the logs? (If you are making 12' boards, are you bucking at 12' 3" or so).

[customsawyer]

Most I am bucking at 6" over. Some of the logs are only 32.5' so I buck those to 16' 3"

[SwampDonkey]

See a lot of what we call 'pencil rot' in eastern white cedar up here on old trees. Looks like that to me. We had panelling made of it in the old house, until I tore the old place down in 2017. It was on there a good 30 years. It was suppose to be clear cedar when dad asked for it. Obviously wasn't, lot of knots had to be filled to. Cedar knots want to move and drop out.

[moosehunter]

Jake, I am envious of those boards! Love the look of the "rot".
mh

[Magicman]

I like the marketing idea.  It would be a simple matter to have a Pecky Cypress board there for comparison. 

[Ben Cut-wright]

I'll look closer at it today but it didn't look like a bore tunnel when I first saw it, but I wasn't looking for that. Appreciate any and all help I can get.

Log-end photo looks more like early stages of disease causing pecky feature.  The boards also look like disease was halted in early stage when the tree was cut or killed. 

[Dan R]

Jake
Here is our version of powder worm. Can ruin a lot of good wood
Dan

[Dan R]

[customsawyer]

There is some logs in the stacks that look like it might have some like that in them. These ones seemed different. It will be interesting how many more come out with this same "rot".

[amarsh64]

In New England some folks refer to V groove as v match
It's one of them regional things 

Up here in New Brunswick I hear a lot of " v joint  and V groove ". Like you said, its a regional thing and probably a lot of "what my dad always called it "

Kinda like  popple as opposed to poplar . You say v match and it makes me think of a huge old moulder at a sash and door mill I worked in. The old boys called it a matcher . I remember a lot of T and G v-joint coming out of that machine. 

[amarsh64]

In New England some folks refer to V groove as v match
It's one of them regional things 

Up here in New Brunswick I hear a lot of " v joint  and V groove ". Like you said, its a regional thing and probably a lot of "what my dad always called it "

Kinda like  popple as opposed to poplar . You say v match and it makes me think of a huge old moulder at a sash and door mill I worked in. The old boys called it "the matcher" . I remember a lot of T and G v-joint coming out of that machine. 

[trimguy]

The owners of the house I'm working on bought a kit sauna for one of the rooms. The wood for the walls is WRC. It might be another market if you have some logs with out the " pecky ".