Anyone tried it yet?
I have 4 ears in the pan just coming to a boil. 8)
My health nut friend tells me there's little to no health value in genetically altered corn...???
She can't seen to substantiate her statements though. ;)
I'll post back in a while and let ya'll know whether it is palatable or not. It sure looks good!
I'd like to round-up some good fresh sweet corn!
GMO corn resistant to Glyphosate (Round UP)?? Is that what you are referrring to? Or more like Raider Bill ;D
I've never heard of Round Up Ready Sweet Corn.
We grow lots of Round Up ready Mule / Deer Corn. Deer hunters buy it by the truck loads.
Southern folks eat Sweet Corn.
Round Up Ready Corn down South means the corn fields can be sprayed with Round Up weed control.
Usually sprayed 2-3 times before picking.
The Mule corn has no taste at all and is very bland. We have some people come by and they will buy it and eat it. However, we do tell them about the corn being sprayed with Round Up. They buy and eat it anyway.
Personally, I will not eat Round Up ready corn. I'll just stick to the Sweet Corn we grow.
Getting corn on the cob for dinner for the third straight day, bring it on!!! 8)
I would toss it in the garbage. That stuff absorbs the round up and distributes throughout your body. Don't buy it and they will stop growing it.
Is round up any worse than Atrazine? I have seen fields sprayed with atrazine take several years to be able to get seeded back in grass. I havent researched it but Round up cant be as bad as atrazine and its been used for years to control weeds and grass in all corn grown.
I have been keeping bee hives lately. Please, please, please, do not use Roundup or any other herbicide/pesticide. It is heavy duty poison. Bees and other pollinators concentrate it. Classic short term gain at the expense of long term sustainability. Just my 2 cents.
This is a link to how toxic glyphosate is, and it is pretty benign as I read it.
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/glyphotech.html
Little to nothing to fear, IMO.
My MD treats children of farmers for exposure to atrizene and glyphosate. This subject is akin to politics, your either in one camp or the other. You either believe they are benign or pretty toxic. There appears to be no middle ground.
This is one of them common sense subjects that has been so well indoctrinated into the public, the public has forgotten how to think for itself. The ins and the outs of the subject are glaringly clear to some, and totally opauqe to others, although I dont know why ( I live on a farm, in a county that is over 80% crop land and some of the best in the nation, so I know a little about it ).
If you believe everything you read.... and there is allot to be read, well I guess you have you own it.
I will leave it at that.
Well.....
I ate 4 giant ears of Round-Up ready sweet corn and I'm still here.
My goal was to eat it, then post my thoughts.
HOWEVER, my beautiful bride brought me home 2 pulled pork sandwiches from Burger King and a large tea(not that sweet, un-manly stuff ya'll southerners drink ;) ), and after all that, I fell into a deep slumber that lasted until about 10 pm, at which time I woke up all bright eyed and bushy tailed...and forgot to post my findings! ::)
That stuff is AWESOME!!!
The father of the kid who sells it is our Pioneer Seed dealer. He claims the seed is $700/bag!
3 bucks/dozen up here in Gods country.
I'm gonna keep buying it until mine is ready. 8)
I'm going to plant some next year too.
We spend well over 100k with him(our seed dealer) every year, so I'll wager he'll give me enough for a half dozen 50' rows.
If it's Ready to Round-Up (pun definitely intended!) when the pig roast is on, I'll bring some up and let everyone there try some. :)
Apparrently, consuming round-up-ready corn causes one to insult Southerners :D. I wonder how many insults will there be per ear? ;D. You need to develop a data sheet as the insults arise and document them so that you can publish them here. It is funny that this corn has this effect on you as most Northerners don't need to eat round-up-ready corn to insult Southerners. It just comes natural :D.
(Now don't get insulted. Just having fun...)
Quote from: WDH on August 07, 2015, 09:25:03 PM
Apparrently, consuming round-up-ready corn causes one to insult Southerners :D. I wonder how many insults will there be per ear? ;D. You need to develop a data sheet as the insults arise and document them so that you can publish them here. It is funny that this corn has this effect on you as most Northerners don't need to eat round-up-ready corn to insult Southerners. It just comes natural :D.
(Now don't get insulted. Just having fun...)
Preach it Danny, Preach it! And if ya need it help. I'll ROUND UP some more if us. :D :D :D :D :D
What is this?
Gang up on the DanG Yankee, will ya! :D :D
All of ya'll, or both of ya'll, or however all of you all say(s) it got one coming! :snowball:
I'm going North toward Lake City tomorrow.
Maybe I'll drop off a dozen ears to Jeff.
If he's home, maybe us two MEN will partake of a cool glass of unsweetened tea! ;D ;D
:D :D :D :D :D :D
martyinmi,I am heading your way as I type. ;D We are strong in numbers.
Round up ready sweet corn, I figured it was just a matter of time.
Help me out here, I'm a bit corn-fused....... say_what
In the mean time, I'll stick to the good old fashioned heritage breeds. If the rest of you start growing gills on the side of your neck........ well.......we'll deal with that when it happens. :D
Knew a guy twenty years ago who grew up in Indiana. He said they would get a pot boiling on the stove and then go out and pick a few ears, and run back to the house to cook them. He said if you dropped them, you just left them and went back to get "fresh" corn.
I imagine the wonders of science have created an ear of corn you can leave in the trunk of your car for a month before you eat it...... sound tasty.... ::)
I'll stick to my gmo free silver queen for the best corn flavor. Don't eat to much of that stuff that causes tumors to grow in lab rats. :)
We "rounded up" some bi-color sweet corn at the Flea Market today which will become our evening meal which will probably be nothing but corn, so if we die......da corn did it. ::)
Before you know it, you will be insulting Southerners Northerners.
Nah, dey took da Grit bait and are completely off track chasing dere tails da FedEx truck. :D
Dat sweet corn was some good yeah !!! :)
Quote from: martyinmi on August 07, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Well.....
I ate 4 giant ears of Round-Up ready sweet corn and I'm still here.
My goal was to eat it, then post my thoughts.
O.K. I want to start with the statement that I really respect real world experience. So thank you for posting! Glad to hear you are doing great.
However, this post (no judgment on the poster!) is a classic example of citing individual results without looking at the "big picture" population-based evidence. I'm sure that every one of us here knows someone who is 90+ years old and smoked a pack of cigarettes every day since age 13. Does this mean that smoking does not cause lung cancer??? Of course not. It's all probabilistic ("stochastic"). Does smoking increase your risk for cancer? YES! Does smoking mean you will absolutely get cancer? NO!!!!!
Next point: I agree that Roundup/glyphosate is generally very safe for humans, especially the "Roundup Ready" products. By the time these are harvested and consumed, humans generally get no or negligible dosage of Roundup. It's used long before harvest and is usually completely gone when the product is harvested. So... The fact that you ate some Roundup Ready corn and did not get sick (in the short term) is ABSOLUTELY EXPECTED, whether Roundup is "safe" or Roundup is toxic to humans. It is an irrelevant and extraneous anecdote.
Better questions to ask and study would be: 1) Does acute or chronic exposure to glyphosate cause increased risk of diseases in humans? 2) What are the effects of glyphosate on the rest of the environment outside of humans? Clearly, glyphosate, even in low doses is detrimental to honey bees (we raise bees). http://jeb.biologists.org/content/217/19/3457.long
My favorite saying is "The plural of anecdote is NOT data." This translates to "media sound bites do not represent reality."
P.S. My last post is not meant as a criticism of anyone. It is merely to spark additional research and evaluation of pesticides in general. There is a HUGE amount of $ riding on the risk-to-benefit ratio of any one product in the markey (e.g. Monsanto's Roundup is in the BILLIONS of dollars annually). This type of money can clearly skew priorities toward short term gains at the cost of long term environmental damage. That's just human nature.
Quote from: Magicman on August 08, 2015, 05:35:37 PM
Nah, dey took da Grit bait and are completely off track chasing dere tails da FedEx truck. :D
I AM ROLLING!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D OH MY SIDE!!!!
You guys can't fool me. I'm having UPS trucks checked too. :D
Why would we need to insult northerners? They are insulting enough all on their own. :D
I would pet anyone's puppy. :)
;D
I gotta say I'm really liking this Round-Up ready sweet corn. 8)
I've noticed that my digestive system appears to break it down much better than non-Round-Up Ready sweet corn. ;D ;D
I understand that a few of you southern folk might not understand the not-so-hidden message in the above sentence. I'll explain if necessary!(Hint:no floaters) ;)
Pat says that I am beginning to glow in the dark. smiley_ghost
Yeah, but she ALWAYS says that... ;D
Most of the soy bean crops are round up ready seeds.
The corp. that owns round up is serious about protecting their product as well; there have been many lawsuits against folks that harvest the seeds and sell them.
Most farmers around here agree that R.O. is trying to corner the seed market, they have many round up ready seeds already.
This is just my two cents worth, and no offence to any one who prefers "non G.M.O." products. The majority of the world is complaining of high food prices, and some are dealing with malnutrition and in some cases starvation. Non G.M.O. seeds are planted and are either going to produce less per acre, or are subject to very labor intensive management. This means higher cost for the producer, and subsequently higher prices at the grocery store or the farmers market. We live in the land of plenty, but not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to afford a nutritious meal for the whole family every day. This is where "roundup-ready" comes into play. By using glyphosate on our field crops we can double and even triple our yield, thus lowering the cost of producing and handling the crop. This means lower prices at the other end. And to some that means having enough to eat today and living until tomorrow. Once again no offence to those who can afford and do use organic and "non G.M.O."
Paid $2.00 for 3 ears of Georgia sweet corn yesterday. Have to admit the ears were big and sweet!
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Quote from: IndianaJoe on August 10, 2015, 09:41:04 AM
This is just my two cents worth, and no offence to any one who prefers "non G.M.O." products. The majority of the world is complaining of high food prices, and some are dealing with malnutrition and in some cases starvation.
Just curious, when and where was it our ( the US Farmer's ) charter to feed the world, both effectively and affordably. Why do I have to put my health at risk to ensure that someone half way around the world is properly fed, but is really living beyond their means ?
I hear the same BS time and again ( mostly from my neighbors ), " If we dont do GMO and roundup, we cant feed the world " Maybe its time to safely feed the USA, and let the rest of the world feed itself ? Yeah, I know, aint no money in that.. cause that is the real answer.
One other point on this subject, I think "black greyhounds" mentioned it only being used as a per-emrgent, so exposure is " light ". WRONG, it is also used as a post emergent, ie, the name " round up ready " meaning you can hit it with roundup, and its also regularly used on wheat as a preharvest tool to control the harvest date, and it also increase yield for the wheat separates from the chaff easier. Lets talk about a glyphosate " load ".
Different MDs Ive spoke to about this, that deal in Lower GI speculate allot of the population that thinks they are celiac or " gluten intolerant " are most likely glyphosate sensitive.
As far as it being safe, at one point cigarettes where promoted as being safe, and a plethora of food additives, weight loss pills, etc., there are 100,000 people a year in the USA that die from FDA approved drugs, using them as prescribed. 4th largest leading cause of death.
If you believe something is "safe" because the FDA says so, well, then go right ahead.
Back to Glysophate..
QuoteWidely Used Herbicide Linked to Cancer
The World Health Organization's research arm declares glyphosate a probable carcinogen. What's the evidence?
By Daniel Cressey and Nature magazine | March 25, 2015 |
Glyphosate is the world's most widely produced herbicide, by volume. It is used extensively in agriculture and is also found in garden products in many countries.
The cancer-research arm of the World Health Organization last week announced that glyphosate, the world's most widely used herbicide, is probably carcinogenic to humans. But the assessment, by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) in Lyon, France, has been followed by an immediate backlash from industry groups.
On March 23, Robb Fraley, chief technology officer at the agrochemical company Monsanto in St Louis, Missouri, which sells much of the world's glyphosate, accused the IARC of "cherry picking" data. "We are outraged with this assessment," he said in a statement. Nature explains the controversy.
What does the IARC report say?
The IARC regularly reviews the carcinogenicity of industrial chemicals, foodstuffs and even jobs. On March 20, a panel of international experts convened by the agency reported the findings of a review of five agricultural chemicals in a class known as organophosphates. A summary of the study was published in The Lancet Oncology.
Two of the pesticides — tetrachlorvinphos and parathion — were rated as "possibly carcinogenic to humans", or category 2B. Three — malathion, diazinon and glyphosate — were rated as "probably carcinogenic to humans", labelled category 2A.
Why should I care about glyphosate?
Glyphosate is the world's most widely produced herbicide, by volume. It is used extensively in agriculture and is also found in garden products in many countries. The chemical is an ingredient in Monsanto's weedkiller product Roundup, and glyphosate has become more popular with the increasing market share of crops that are genetically engineered to be tolerant to the herbicide.
What evidence is there for a link between glyphosate and cancer?
The IARC review notes that there is limited evidence for a link to cancer in humans. Although several studies have shown that people who work with the herbicide seem to be at increased risk of a cancer type called non-Hodgkin lymphoma, the report notes that a separate huge US study, the Agricultural Health Study, found no link to non-Hodgkin lymphomas. That study followed thousands of farmers and looked at whether they had increased risk of cancer.
But other evidence, including from animal studies, led the IARC to its 'probably carcinogenic' classification. Glyphosate has been linked to tumours in mice and rats — and there is also what the IARC classifies as 'mechanistic evidence', such as DNA damage to human cells from exposure to glyphosate.
Kathryn Guyton, a senior toxicologist in the monographs programme at the IARC and one of the authors of the study, says, "In the case of glyphosate, because the evidence in experimental animals was sufficient and the evidence in humans was limited, that would put the agent into group 2A."
Google the magazine and author if you want to read the rest, not sure if Im allow to post a link on this forum. You can read about the glyphoste for weeks, if you have the time, like the list of countries that will not allow its use as one example. And when "W.H.O." has a problem with it, its pretty bad.
FOOD for thought. Everyone else, enjoy your round up ready corn ! and make friends with an oncologist.. :o
If one wants to go along with the WHO, which I don't. ;)
All hype as I see it. Many of these groups want us to be 'fraid of our own shadow. Guess it makes them feel better about themselves if they can cause some kind of panic. We get enough of that with the weather forecasters... ;D
Round Up doesn't worry me, it's when they start messing with the genetic structure of plants to make them Round Up resistant that gives me pause. How much testing did they do before bringing this seed to market? 1 year, 2 years, six months? Did they use Guinea Pigs in the lab, or are WE the Guinea Pigs?
Remember, for 30+ years the USDA told ranchers they should feed processed dead cows to their herd for better profitability. Can you say bovine spongiform encephalopathy?
I am NOT a greenie type, or left wing whacko, quite the opposite in fact. But there are some serious issues with the way our food is produced. The long term effects on fertility of the land, the quality of the food, and the commodity nature of production that turns the farmer into a virtual slave working his ash off for a slim margin, or loss.
If you're interested, there are some very interesting videos on YouTube by a farmer named Joel Salatin. He raises cattle, pigs, chickens and rabbits almost exclusively on pasture. Doesn't spent a cent on fertilizer or seed, and makes way more per acre than guys growing commodity crops. Sure, there is more work involved, but his profit margins are way higher.