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Title: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 13, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
I am going to inspect a 1985 C5D that has had an Esco sorting grapple added to it.  I need to know a somewhat accurate weight and Length, Width (18.1 X 34 tires) and Height (18.1 X 34 tires) dimensions.  5 cylinder Deutz engine & manual tranny.  This info. is needed in order to get a shipping quote or the machine.

Do any of you fellas have this information or know where I can get it? 

Thanks,

SP
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: mad murdock on December 14, 2013, 11:38:55 AM
A lot of skidders of that vintage used to have empty weight info on the SN ID tag, usually somewhere in the cab. You would prolly have to add a guesstimate on to that for the grapple add on. Id venture a guess you are somewhere around 16,000-18,000 lbs- unless the tires are liquid filled, then could be more. 
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 14, 2013, 02:32:00 PM
Thanks mm.  You're guess is right exactly where the current owner guesses it is.  He says 16,000.  I am betting that range is right in there.  Thanks, sir!  I'm going to tell the shipping company that it weighs 18,000 because of the grapple.  The tires are not liquid filled.
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: mad murdock on December 14, 2013, 11:27:36 PM
Sounds like a good machine. Put up a pic or two when you get it. Those deutz engines are really good powerplants!!
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 21, 2013, 07:43:03 AM
I'm away from home right now.  When the skidder gets delivered I'll try to get some pic's up.

The skidder has a few issues, but I bought it anyway.
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 26, 2013, 04:47:40 PM
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Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 29, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22894/P1020013.JPG) 

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Got photos up, but not really sure how I did it.  :)

Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: mad murdock on December 29, 2013, 07:14:17 PM
That is quite a looker!! Will be a nice wood getter. You got chains for it?  Will need at least the front tires chained up. Whereabouts in the UP are you near?
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: treefarmer87 on December 29, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
super nice! i saw that machine on ebay.
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 29, 2013, 08:05:48 PM
I'm currently living in Colorado, but I grew up in Ontonagon.  My whole family is still in the U.P.  I'd love to move back.  I think about it every day.

Yeah this skidder was on eBay.  Its got a 5 cylinder Deutz that flat out purrs.  It came with a set of four chains too.  It has sat for about 10 years so its got a few seals that leak.  Two leaks in the transmission and the axle end seals seem to be on their way out too.  The steer cylinders are slow and need new packing.  The rest of the hydraulics are very strong and responsive.  The center pins are bad as well and 1st and third gear are the same ratio.  I know that sounds nuts, but its true.  Someone must have only been able to get a 1st gear for it and replaced 3rd with that gear some time in the past.  Who knows?  At any rate I have a good friend here that is going to line bore the pin holes and make custom bushings and pins for me.  "Very simple..." he said.  This is a guy who manufactures his own processor heads for his Timbco.  I will go though the rest of the issues myself and hopefully have it in the woods by February 1.

The skidder has a Cotta transfer case and I'm assuming a Cotta transmission as well, but I don't know for sure.  Hopefully I can get a third gear for it.
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: Corley5 on December 29, 2013, 10:25:08 PM
It's probably got a New Process tranny.  Good looking machine  8)
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: SliverPicker on December 29, 2013, 10:28:08 PM
That's good news.  Tons of exchanges and parts available.  Which NP transmission would you guess?  435?
Title: Re: 1985 Franklin Tree Farmer C5D - Weight and Dimensions?
Post by: Corley5 on December 29, 2013, 10:35:34 PM
I forget which #NP my C4 Forwarder has but I'll bet it's the same as the C5.  It has third but sometimes you can't find it and only get 1st.  Lately 3rd is back strong and 1st is sometimes absent.  I suppose it needs to be exchanged ;) ;D