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Started by Joey Grimes, March 02, 2017, 10:13:16 PM

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Joey Grimes

Got the framing finished for our new building for retail lumber sales should have metal on the sides by next week .I'm looking for ideas for vertical lumber storage I think I've got a plan for my slab display. 

  

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

tmbrcruiser

Nice building! I am interested n your plan to display slabs, that is a challenge I've been thinking about. The idea of having to show each slab to someone that may or may not buy one is not appealing to me. My thought is to wet the slab ( to show the color and grain ) then photograph each side with a coded number. It would be much easier to have someone scan the photos than viewing each piece.

Please let me know what works for you.
Once you get sap in your veins, you will always have sawdust in your pockets.

dean herring

That's a good looking building. Did you cut your own lumber?
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Joey Grimes

I had a company build the pole barn30x60 x17 tall sides I cut 6/4 cypress for all the framing between the posts and all the framing for the gable ends I got started sheeting today hope to be done by Sunday 

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

WDH

Nice and tall.  Good wide door.  Excellent.  I want one. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

Joey Grimes

Jerry tidwell construction has one with your name on it.
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Joey Grimes

94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

WDH

You don't mess around (old saying). 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

YellowHammer

YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Joey Grimes

All siding done garage door and man door and lots of insulation next I found a deal on some  1.5x2x4 rigid foam  insulation for $1 each best I can tell I'll only need 700#!!!

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

caveman

Joey, it looks like you have it going your way now. Good looking barn.
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scleigh

Joey. the building and kiln you built, both look really good.
Do you plan to control the temp in the building or just the humidity? I assume you'll be storing dried lumber in it.

rjwoelk

For displaying slabs, vertical on a carosal or just half carosal, like at hd displaying carpet or tile.
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Joey Grimes

Yes building will be for kiln dry lumber only I don't plan on air conditioning but maybe heat I'm going to wait and see how good my insulation works .I'm not sure how the foam panels will work. My plan is to friction fit panels between the perlins and it will be against the metal my thought is that will keep the roof from sweating in the morning? It would have been easier to use roll insulation before metal was installed
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

scleigh

I'm with ya on insulating before metal, I didnt in my first building and will never skimp again. I'm thinking about the do it yourself spray foam for my ceiling
You've come a long ways in the past year, nice looking operation.

Joey Grimes

Picked up my insulation today it was a very slow ride home with 180 sheets of 3 inch foam sheets 

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Darrel

The trailer looks to be heavier than the load.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

YellowHammer

That is a nice load, great score.  I hope it stops condensation from dripping on your wood. 
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Joey Grimes

Got started insulating today roof is a slow go

  

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Darrel

That should keep moisture from condensing and dripping all over everything. Looking good!
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

GeneWengert-WoodDoc

One idea is to use a humidistat to control the heat.  Whenever the humidity is over about 40% RH, then the humidistat kicks on, turning on the heat.  Heating air lowers the RH.

Note that painting the roof a dark color will heat the roof and thereby minimize condensation and also provide some heat into the building to help lower the RH.  The average outside RH is around 65%, so a building needs to be about 20 F warmer than the morning's low temperature to achieve 8% EMC.  A small fan or two helps stir the air so conditions are uniform.  Otherwise, hot air rises and so the roof will have a lower RH than the floor.  In all cases, we do not want any source of moisture- wet lumber, roof leaks, soil moisture, open doors for very long, especially between 10PM and 10AM when outside RH is high.
Gene - Author of articles in Sawmill & Woodlot and books: Drying Hardwood Lumber; VA Tech Solar Kiln; Sawing Edging & Trimming Hardwood Lumber. And more

Joey Grimes

The insulation is covered both sides with a black cover like tar paper I thought about painting it white so it would reflect light better are you saying it being black will help reduce condensation or the roof metal black?
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Joey Grimes

More progress on insulation 

  

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Joey Grimes

All the insulation is done and garage door installed I got finished with some of slab display and loaded 24' I thought that was enough but I think another 24' next week 

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

YellowHammer

Looks nice.  God job.  On our slab rack I hung some yellow safety chain from the frame to keep the slabs from accidentally falling out and conking a customer or me on the head.  Much like the chain that holds welding cylinders in a welding cart.  The chain has some slack so the slabs can easily pulled out a little to see them, but it keeps them from falling out.
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Darrel

That's a nice looking whack of lumber well displayed. I like it.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

xlogger

Joey, where did you get those pipes bolted to the wood to hold your slabs? I was thinking about building something like that but I like your deal better than what I was thinking about.
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Joey Grimes

I ordered 3/4 floor flanges and screwed them to horizontal 2x4 and screwed in 24" 3/4 pipe nipples I ordered them from supply house online 40# nipples and #40 floor flanges cost $250 delivered
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Joey Grimes

I reconfigured a little today to accommodate shorter slabs

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

WDH

Joey,

That is mighty fine, makes me green with envy. That is one of the nicest slab displays that I have ever seen.  Man, you are rockin'  8) 8).
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

Deese

Man, you're doing what I dream of doing. Very Nice.  :)
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Glenn1

Joey,

You've done a phenomenal job on your building and slab rack.  Way to go!!!
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Joey Grimes

First of many mobile lumber displays

  

 
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

WDH

Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

Darrel

I like it, I like it a lot.
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

YellowHammer

Looks great.  Better get the credit card machine warmed up for your customers. 
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Joey Grimes

94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Peter Drouin

You guys with the light weight barns. Makes thing so easy down in the south. Up here in the north, we have to build strong, Snow is the thing. :D :D :D :snowball:
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45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

WDH

You poor Northern Dudes have all kinds of things weighing down on you.  Like glaciers.  Hard to imagine how y'all can stay sane  :)

(Note to self: Some of y'all aren't...).

Snow load or no snow load, that is one fine slab display.
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

YellowHammer

What are those big wide slabs on the left side of the rack?  They look as wide as a door.

Quote from: Peter Drouin on May 26, 2017, 05:33:26 AM
Makes thing so easy down in the south. Up here in the north..... Snow is the thing. :D :D :D :snowball:

You figured us out!  That's why we live down here. 
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

red

I understand how mobile homes can fly away in a storm.  Now I am understanding how your outbuildings get airborne.
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Joey Grimes

The wide boards on the left are 5/4 maple some 19" wide clear
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

Joey Grimes

I appreciate everyone's kind words it's great to have a place to share ideas I couldn't be where I am now without everyone's help !!
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

David M

If you don't mind answering, what did the final cost work out to per SQF for such a nice roomy building ?

Joey Grimes

Not including any of my labor about  10 dollars per sf
94 woodmizer lt40 HD kabota 5200 ford 4000 94 international 4700 flatbed and lots of woodworking tools.

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