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Title: Ireland mill
Post by: NYIrelandMiller on April 12, 2018, 06:27:33 PM
Hello all,
First time posting, long time lurker.   We are a small hobby mill here in upstate ny.   Just curious, how do I tell if I have a left or right hand Ireland mill?   I'll figure out how to post a video in a little bit I'm sure.   Going to mill some basswood, ash and butternut the next couple weeks.   
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: moodnacreek on April 12, 2018, 07:17:22 PM
Facing the teeth pointing down, if the log goes by to the right it's a r/h mill.  I once wanted an Ireland as the first mill I ever looked at was one. It had the hay rake handles to taper a bunk. This mill was in Mt. Vision, n.y.  There sure was a lot of them in the Catskills and beyond. You can get a reprint catalog. They even had a power set option.     On the general board under I finally found one, in my response I show an Ireland made cant hook.
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: NYIrelandMiller on April 13, 2018, 12:20:39 PM
Thanks, my dad thought because the carriage was operated with your left hand it was obviously a left hand mill.   In seeing some pictures that contradicted that, it made me wonder.   Now I know! We have a right hand mill, thanks
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: Chuck White on April 13, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, NYIrelandMiller!
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: Ron Wenrich on April 13, 2018, 07:29:53 PM
I ran an Ireland for awhile.  I liked the way those hay rack tapers worked.  
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: moodnacreek on April 13, 2018, 08:32:57 PM
There was a picture in timber line of the original Ordy Price sawmill in Pa.  I think it was from the 1920's. It showed the founder sawing an oversize log on an Ireland sawmill the looked like it had the power set.
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: NYIrelandMiller on April 13, 2018, 09:09:46 PM
One of these days I will learn all of the proper terminology, and be able to post back here.   Until then we're just gonna send it,   Right handed apparently.    I like to read.   I might print out the copies of the number 8 RH.    
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: Darrel on April 13, 2018, 09:56:04 PM
Welcome to the forum NYIerlandMiller!
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on April 14, 2018, 08:21:33 AM
Welcome to the forum
Where in NY are you?
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: paul case on April 14, 2018, 08:31:16 AM
I like this guys mill that happens to be and Ireland.

cutting ties on a 1923 ireland sawmill - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEVzko6YM2c&t=517s)

PC
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: dgdrls on April 14, 2018, 08:35:18 AM
Welcome to the FF NYIrelandMiller

couple links first is a little history of Ireland
the second is an excellent circle saw reference
Northern Logger May 2015 (http://digitaleditions.sheridan.com/publication/?i=256976&article_id=1996378&view=articleBrowser&ver=html5#%7B"issue_id":256976,"view":"articleBrowser","article_id":"1996378"%7D)

https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/misc/circsaw.pdf

we like sawmill photos here !!

best
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Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: Autocar on April 14, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Pulling the feed handle if the log paces on your right side as it feeds into the saw it is a right hand mill and if it passes on your left as it feeds into the saw it is a left hand mill 
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: Ron Wenrich on April 14, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
I always figured if the logs come in on the right hand side of the mill, its a right hand mill.  I've run both.  
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: StimW on April 14, 2018, 11:06:55 PM
How do you know when an Irish Honeymoon is over?
When Peter goes to Dublin!    :)
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: NYIrelandMiller on April 15, 2018, 01:43:55 PM
Thanks for all the info folks.   I just read the 93 page circle saw bible a member sent me.   I will also check out those links.   We do have a right hand number 8 (pretty sure it's not a 6) mill.    Bear swamp-   I can almost see bearswamp from my house, I am two hills east in Tully (Otisco).
Regarding the YouTube video of cutting ties,   I've seen a few videos of guys dropping only one dog on the head blocks and a video of not even dropping any dogs on the log.    That would make me nervous, but would save time.    We usually have one guy running the carriage (and first dog), one guy running 2-4 dogs, and one guy tailing the saw.   Powered by a pto 135-175 horse tractor sitting outside.
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: moodnacreek on April 15, 2018, 03:19:13 PM
Man your not hurtin for power.  When the log is heavy, on a flat side, no ice or snow, no dog.
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on April 15, 2018, 03:19:41 PM
Looked like the guy was only setting 1 dog and he had no hearing or eye protection.
He will be as hard of hearing as me when he gets older maybe blind too.
I sometimes dont clamp the cant until I am sawing thru and thru.
I only watched 8 mins of the vid then got bored.
 
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: 4x4American on April 15, 2018, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: NYIrelandMiller on April 15, 2018, 01:43:55 PM
Thanks for all the info folks.   I just read the 93 page circle saw bible a member sent me.   I will also check out those links.   We do have a right hand number 8 (pretty sure it's not a 6) mill.    Bear swamp-   I can almost see bearswamp from my house, I am two hills east in Tully (Otisco).
Regarding the YouTube video of cutting ties,   I've seen a few videos of guys dropping only one dog on the head blocks and a video of not even dropping any dogs on the log.    That would make me nervous, but would save time.    We usually have one guy running the carriage (and first dog), one guy running 2-4 dogs, and one guy tailing the saw.   Powered by a pto 135-175 horse tractor sitting outside.
Next time I'm out that way I'd love to stop in and check your setup out I have friends in Tully, LaFayette, Otisco, Fabius, DeRuyter, Cortland, Etc etc
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: NYIrelandMiller on April 16, 2018, 10:23:22 AM
4x4- anytime I like to show it off.   Grandpa bought it in 1952 from Jamesville where they made ties for the railroad by rt 481.   We are a dairy farm, and grandpa and the dad and uncles built a few barns back in the day from the mill.   We mill only a couple weeks out of the year, and sell a little (mostly stockpile) on Craigslist Facebook word of mouth etc.   Mostly the ash that is dying the last few years, but some butternut, walnut, cottonwood, tulip poplar, spruce a couple locust, and one cherry log.   Basswood soon once my uncle gets the sawdust truck running.    He configured a silage blower to blow it onto a truck outside.    Might get a couple yards of sawdust at best in a day.    I would rather mill today and not worry about the sawdust, but waste not want not seems to be a common saying with low milk prices.   We only mill from Our own woods as we are very paranoid about hardware.   I like to make large dimensional lumber as I get bored of making boards.  Trying to get my friend to send some past videos so I can post them.
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: moodnacreek on April 16, 2018, 12:25:26 PM
N.Y. Ireland Mill, There has got to be very few people left that milk cows and saw lumber. I enjoy reading your posts and knowing you are out there working your land.
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: NYIrelandMiller on April 16, 2018, 07:05:22 PM
It's a dying breed milk and milling.   Comment away folks.   I have bought a few smaller wood lots the last few years in southern Onondaga county.   Have maple production on one parcel by a very efficient modern young ambitious  producer so am trying to help him expand.,My other parcel is too steep and far from the road for his Sao,, and my third is too small and full of ash.    Stihl chainsaws here.   Want to do more and more with wood but it's the time factor....
Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: dgdrls on April 16, 2018, 08:26:30 PM
NYIrelandMiller

dropped you a PM.

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Title: Re: Ireland mill
Post by: thecfarm on April 16, 2018, 08:56:23 PM
Farmers here use to log a little in the winter time. Now they farm year around.