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Old Cresent 26” planer?

Started by JRWoodchuck, November 14, 2019, 06:08:17 PM

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JRWoodchuck

Looking at a 100 ish year old Cresent 26" planer that was line driven. Needs some love but the price seems alright. Anything I should be concerned about or what should I be looking for?
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

muggs

Is it babbit bearing? Is it square head or round head?  

Southside

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JRWoodchuck

I would guess Babbitt and square. But not 100%. 
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

JRWoodchuck

Does a planer of that type come with a health risk?
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

Southside

Well, aside from all of the entanglement potential due to all of those un-guarded gears and the belt, square head planers were notorious for throwing material both back at the operator and forward to the outfeed, more than a few 2x4's went through walls from them. Yes one can guard them, but you don't want to be around a square head machine when it's running.  It's just old technology, at the time it was amazing, today there are better options IMHO.  
Franklin buncher and skidder
JD Processor
Woodmizer LT Super 70 and LT35 sawmill, KD250 kiln, BMS 250 sharpener and setter
Riehl Edger
Woodmaster 725 and 4000 planner and moulder
Enough cows to ensure there is no spare time.
White Oak Meadows

Dan_Shade

It may not have anti-kickback safety features.

Newer planers have safer in feed rollers (segmented), which makes running more than one board at a time safer. 


I'm not sure how dangerous the old planers are, but a few searches on square cutter heads will highlight some of the risks. 

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muggs

I received a badly broken arm from a planer like that.(kick-back) I would not want to be in the same room with it.  :'(

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Ljohnsaw

OK, so stay away from square heads.  With such a machine, is it worthwhile to convert to a spiral head?  Is it doable?
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low_48

Possible, yes, practical no. Problems with bearings and motor mount engineering, and impossible to get a replacement gear if one should happen to be cracked.

TW

The good thing with hose old planers is that they are comparably easy to repair. Pretty much any part can be repaired or remade using a metal lathe and a metal shaper. Parts that fit together are often designed in such a way that once worn out they can be scraped to fit like new.
Pouring new babbitt bearings and scraping them to fit isn't very difficult. I have done it successfully on my rip saw using scrapers I had forged myself.

However there is one mayor downside and that is SAFETY.
Personally I refuse to have anything to do with square heads. I think this is a reasonable precaution just because i like to live. A new cutterhead is unfortunately a bit costly and making a new set of anti-kickback pawls to retrofit an old machine is rather laborious........ so..... if you wand a safe machine be prepared to spend some significant time and money on modernizing it.

Quebecnewf

Get it . Rebuild it . Get help from Owwm site . I rebuilt an old square head planer . Designed a anti kickback system for it . These old planers are great for trueing up rough green lumber .

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