Not quite sure if this is the correct place for this but, I am looking on getting some new tires for my truck and not quite sure what ones to get i am looking at the toyo m55 but not to sure if they are any good. Any recommendations are appreciated.
I've been using Michelin LTX's for about 20 years and have been very pleased with their performance on 16" rims.
I was underwhelmed with their performance on the 19.5" rims though.
Usually we netted 70K - 80K miles from the 16" rim tires and they stayed in balance the entire time.
Iv had good luck with Firestone Transforce on 16 inch rims.
What vehicle is it going on? What's most important, ride quality, price, mileage, noise? Mostly on road, or job sites? That will help with recommendations.
Its going on a 2007 Chev 2500 hd, ride quality doesn't really matter as the truck will be mainly 60% off road which would consist of gravel with sharp rocks/some sticks And 40% highway, would like a moderate noise tire. Price aint really that big of a deal per say dont want to spent 1000$ a tire though
My vote too for Michelin LTX
In New Hampshire I find for my use Copper mud and snows are my go to tire.
2 sets one studded for winter use.
But have run them without studs with good results.
my 2 cents
go to a wrecking yard and see if there are any good off-road tires.
A lot of the crummys here run Cooper Discover ST's that's what we have on our F150 crummy, my crummy a 1 ton crew cab long box is running Nitto Trail Grapplers I've had less issues with flats on the mainlines where we can run up to 30 miles off highway daily.
I have had very good success with Nitto Duragrapplers and BF Goodrich All Terrains. I ran the BFGs for almost 80,000 miles before a belt broke in one and I retired the set. They still had some tread at the time. Both tires pull decent off-road and don't make a ton of fuss on the highway. In normal conditions, I drive about 3,000 miles per month split between in woods work and highway miles from job to job. I have Coopers under my pick-up now as my local dealer had a set in stock as I came in with two flats. We'll see how they hold up.
Wudman
hankook dynapro ATM
Nokian Rotiiva AT
Both work great on and offroad, still good on street. Great in the snow. Excellent wear characteristics. I have bought 4 sets of the hankook and been on several different vehicles, highly recommend, I am still on the first set of Rotiiva and will be buying again when its time.
only reason I switched to the rotiiva was because the ATM was not available in my size.
The rotiiva are on my 2015 f-150 that I drive every day. The ATM's were on grand cherokees.
We ran Toyo M606 on the Chev's in our logging fleet, it was the only tire we could find that would stand up to the abuse those clowns handed out. The Fords got M55 becaause M606 was not available in that size. It was a rugged tire with good traction but rode hard, the truck crow hopped on washboard. They wouldn't last if aired down.
I've had 2 sets of Cooper Discovery on my 2500HD, ready for a 3rd soon, I like them
All of our trucks have cooper discover st max tires on them. Used them for years nice balance between snow and mud tread
I'm running Toyo Open Country C/T on my truck now. Year around on the rear and wintertime all around.Howl just a little, wear flat on the rear and wear the outside of the tread very little on the front. I do rotate them, but not on any schedule, just when they're off for brakes or some other reason. I put some highway tread tires on the front for the summer (Goodyear; one new and one almost new takeoff). 275/75R18. Got some extra rims so I only had to mount them one time.
I used to run Cooper S/T Max on my trucks. They are good tires in mud or snow, and a little cheaper than the Tokyo's. I had a brain fart and went with the Toyo, but I am really happy with them.
I ran a set of Toyo M55's (which are discontinued from what I understand) on my Dodge dually, excellent off road traction and they wore pretty well for how block of a tire they are. They were really noisy on the highway though! My 01 Chevy 2500hd got Toyo Open Country C/T last fall, they've been wearing well. Good off road (I don't think as good as the M55 but 2 different rigs) decent on snow and surprisingly low road noise. We have an 03 Suburban that the previous owner lifted and put bigger tires on it. I think they are 18", 315's. Cooper S/T I believe, all I know is those big things have wore like iron. They kinda suck on snow but are great off road.
Quote from: barbender on July 22, 2020, 09:12:15 PM
I ran a set of Toyo M55's (which are discontinued from what I understand)
I can get them through a company called integra tire here in town. but that's about the only place I can locate them.
Maybe look at Yokohama geolander
I have bought several sets of Hankook. Even put some 22.5's on my motorhome. Recently put load range E on my 4x4 and they have all been great. They run true and balance out with minimum weights.
I've used Micheline for 20 years. Motorhome Michelins were terrible, less than 20K and were unusable. Car and pickups had good luck with Michelins.
The Hankooks are great tires. I think they even have a plant in the US now. They are half price from the Michelins. Many of the new BMW's or Mercedes have Hankooks as standard tires.
We've gotten good service out of the Hankook Dynapro ATM on our woods pickups. I put those on my dually as well, haven't put many miles on them. I have noticed they tend to load up, they don't clean out that well so they don't seem as good offroad.
Quote from: Plankton on July 22, 2020, 03:12:10 PM
All of our trucks have cooper discover st max tires on them. Used them for years nice balance between snow and mud tread
That's my next set of off road tires, i think.
Another option, which i would be really interested in.
Nokian rockproof. I have heard some Australians say that they couldn't kill that tire, driving only off road.
Quote from: Skeans1 on July 21, 2020, 11:01:39 PM
A lot of the crummys here run Cooper Discover ST's that's what we have on our F150 crummy, my crummy a 1 ton crew cab long box is running Nitto Trail Grapplers I've had less issues with flats on the mainlines where we can run up to 30 miles off highway daily.
What in the Earnest P. Worrell is a crummy?
by the way, I have run BF Goodrich TA off roads on my last 4 trucks. Very good balance between on and off road, not too loud on the road.
The county uses limestone rock on the county roads around here and that chews any tires up
HA! I guess this one should be added to the FF Dictionary, I thought it was already there. A crummy is the truck that is relegated to getting crew and/or tools and parts into and out of the logging site, either coming out from town, or the trail head. Usually this was the 'crummiest' truck in the fleet because it often does not even leave the woods and you could 'get away' with a lot in the way of road worthiness. ;D
My crummy is just my Mule, it's all I have, but I am a one man show working in a small area, so it works for me.
I ran the Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX on my last truck. They were great off the pavement and I still pulled 75k miles doing a lot of highway driving.
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 23, 2020, 06:45:21 AM
HA! I guess this one should be added to the FF Dictionary, I thought it was already there. A crummy is the truck that is relegated to getting crew and/or tools and parts into and out of the logging site, either coming out from town, or the trail head. Usually this was the 'crummiest' truck in the fleet because it often does not even leave the woods and you could 'get away' with a lot in the way of road worthiness. ;D
My crummy is just my Mule, it's all I have, but I am a one man show working in a small area, so it works for me.
A crummy is just another name for a loggers pickup they are always the most beat up looking rig to be called a crummy either.
Then there's crew bus which can be a crew cab crummy or an actual bus depending on the job.
:D Must be a west coast thing, we'll get those eastern boys edurmacated yet. I ran Michelins once in winter, never again. They wore like iron but were useless in mud and snow. The best snow tires have a soft compound for better traction but don't last long so it's a tradeoff.
:D
Quote from: Walnut Beast on July 23, 2020, 06:11:10 AM
The county uses limestone rock on the county roads around here and that chews any tires up
Try to get yourself a set of nokian rockproof. I have heard the Aussies swear by it!
the highest mileage i ever got. were 235-16 bandag recaps. put them on the rear and didnt take them off until worn out 100,000 miles later
That surprises me, caps are generally quite soft and while offering good mud and snow traction don't last very long. I frequently see 'alligators' laying on the highway from the large trucks, they are not allowed to use them on the steering axle for that reason.
FYI
i had a two flats, at different times on the same left front tire.
First was a radio tire on a freeway driving 75. was in the center dirt before i knew it
the second was a bias tire on a different freeway. was driving 75, then thought "I think i got a flat". moved the steering wheel left and right, decided i had a flat. pulled over, checked and found the center of the tire was shredded but the side walls looked like new.
I have the cooper mud and snow's they lasted longer than the truck >:( :(. Just bought a dodge ram 2010 I sent for the title so I can get a compliance sticker an safety sticker on june 16 I still haven't got it back from the registry >:( they say their behind because of the virus :o.
Quote from: sawguy21 on July 24, 2020, 10:54:32 AM
That surprises me, caps are generally quite soft and while offering good mud and snow traction don't last very long. I frequently see 'alligators' laying on the highway from the large trucks, they are not allowed to use them on the steering axle for that reason.
the old hot caps were soft a cold cap is not and lasts a long time. a good big truck tire would be able to be capped 2 or 3 times. after the casing is 10 yrs old it cant be capped. most of the alligators you see have pulled the steel belts
Very good experience with Toyo's. Nokians in the winter.
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How old will you allow a truck tire that's going to be driven on the highway at 70 mph? I have a 2014 FJ Cruiser with original 265x75 16 E truck tires about 60,000 miles but because of the Cruisers light weight they still have at least 70% tread.
I would replace them after 6-7 years regardless of tread, the rubber compound deteriorates with age. We had a blowout at 60 mph on our fifth wheel then two days later the spare grenaded and I had to buy new tires. No serious damage but scared the daylights out of us and lightened the wallet considerably.
That's the 50k mile tire. There are 3 levels of the geolander.
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I have been very well pleased with the Toyo Open Country AT's. There is the RT if you need more traction, and the MT for maximum traction.
If I was in the tire market right now it would be the new AT III.
Most all of the Loggers, Foresters, and Farmers here run Toyo's.
There is a trade off on the more aggressive tires. They just don't last on the crushed limestone rock county roads.
Good point so it is a matter of location, location, location. Here I'm either on pavement or bare dirt/mud. There are very few rock/gravel roads that I normally travel on.
I estimate the rubber condition with regards to replacement, and not any particular time frame. I imagine there's a huge amount of variability depending on where/how they were kept. With a bunch of cracking, I'd be leery of driving it high speed/high temp. Slower and colder? Maybe. Depends on what I'm seeing.
I've never seen limestone gravel, is it really worse on tires than basalt? It's not as hard, does it break sharper or something? I killed a set of BFG AT's on my '58 Chevy Napco in maybe 30,000 miles, almost all local logging roads with basalt gravel. They chunked out.
If you get on a road around my parts that has crushed ledge 1" you going to get a punctured tire no matter what brand.
Some towns at now using a compacting roller after grading in the spring and the fall.
Been using Michelin xps rib on pick up and trailer for years. They are not cheap.
On my 06, bought new, i tok factory off and put bfg all terrains and got about 12,000 miles, went to cooper discover stt, about 15,000. When i lifted it, i put 37x12.5x20 toyo m/ts and got nearly 60k, with 80% highway. Bought another set and 50k, 80% highway.
On my 12, 16 and 18 rams, all had toyo at2s but my last set, started on my 16 and swapped to my 18 dually, with about 8,000 on them, i got an additional 20k. Im looking for something else too and may try the at3s from toyo. If those are garbage, ill give the m/ts 1 more shot before hanging my hat up with toyo.
I do 70% highway running, 25% dirt/rock road running and 5%, ground that 4x4 is required. Of those %s, 80% is 2wd only and 50% no trailer pulling.
I was told when i bought my last at2s, toyo changed the rubber comp and they wear sooner. So buying shoes every 2 yrs @ $1500 a pop is a no go. I need something that'll last more than 30k miles, yet offer better than 40% mud/slick ground reliability.
Just put on a set og Michelin LTX rated for 75,000k . I have them before and they are nice all round tire. Good in the snow and rain, and quiet on the highway.