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Started by tule peak timber, September 15, 2019, 04:54:28 PM

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tule peak timber

I started a couple weeks ago as the wood came out of the kiln.This project will be several  more months in fabrication as some of the thicker pieces still showed internal moisture. The walnut is orchard (grafted) wood I brought in this last spring.
  The door will measure 132 inches tall 51 inches wide including an arched transom/jamb assembly.  With 3 inch thick frame, 4-5 inch thick burl raised panels - sheer weight is the main challenge. Lots of hollow form layups in the design and engineering on this build.The customer also has a massive kitchen island in the works.

 

 

 Note the tree graft that will be the center of the transom.

 

 

 After a great deal of template router work and lamination of opposing grains for stability the layup is ready for carving today prior to assembly. Careful attention is paid to have all of these big parts floating after fabrication. Rob
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Southside

WOW Rob - that is impressive!!  
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Magicman

Wow, this will be interesting to follow.  Thank You for including us as you progress.  :P
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thecfarm

You are one cleaver fellow to make that all work.
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Brad_bb

Yes, you always seem to be doing the coolest stuff.  Is there a drawing of the door to help me visualize?  
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

Poquo

That's amazing can't wait to see finished product!
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tule peak timber

my drawing that I'm working from. I like to keep it simple !

 
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Ljohnsaw

 :P
So just a "small" 11' tall door... I this the front door?  Pantry? Kitchen?
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tule peak timber

Yes an entry door + jamb, new construction.
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Brad_bb

well, your assembly table looks big enough!
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

Texas Ranger

Out standing, I used to build doors, but nothing of that order.
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Bill Gaiche

Simple?? Man oh man, the things you build. Awesome.......bg

tule peak timber

Progress today on sculpting the transom panels and jointing the transom round to the head. Going from round to straight is very tricky........ :) The parts are cut so I can work through the weekend for a dry fit.

 

 

 
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Dakota

I drool every time I see your shop equipment.  Love seeing your projects.
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tule peak timber

I was very disappointed that Costner shut down his casino. Is the old lady holdout still running the hardware store ?
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Dakota

I haven't been there in a year or so.  I trade mostly at the Twin Cities Hardware store between Deadwood and Lead on highway 385.
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Bruno of NH

Following
You are the truest of craftsman  :)
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tule peak timber

I kicked the guys out of the shop to get some sunshine today. Coastal live oak.

 
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tule peak timber

Back building on the door this morning.Template cutting of the burl faces for the raised panels.

 

 

 
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tule peak timber

Finished sanding and oiled the transom this afternoon . I tried to show in the pics the 3-D wobble on the raised panels. Tree graft in the center.

 

 

 
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Southside

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samandothers

Really great work!  The graft is so interesting.  

Bruno of NH

Yes Sir that's beautiful work!
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tule peak timber

Crack filling and laying up the beefy raised panels.

 Contemplating how to work through this ugly pile of slabs for the door frame and the customers kitchen island top.

 
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WDH

Ugly?  Oh, you mean the slabs....... ;D 
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customsawyer

Very nice work Sir. Just need to get you closer so I can sell you wood. :D
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tule peak timber

Tony and Jackson carved on the door panels this morning. This is going to take several days.

 I started to develop the jamb legs from two of the ugly slabs. Standard "resaw and flip" reversing the grain for stability- this tames an angry tree. Once inside the slabs I was surprised at the character of the wood.

 

 

 
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Crusarius

Always amazed at how your work comes out.

Nebraska

Your projects make me remember  how amazing the gift of sight is. Thank you for the pictures. 

tule peak timber

Thanks for the kind words ! Today I started going through all of the scrap, defect cutting and prepping for finger jointing. These end jointed staves will be used for stop material and other frame parts.I hate to waste wood......

 

 

 

 
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DWyatt


fishfighter

Just how much you think the door will weigh? :o

tule peak timber

I did some calcs before I started and the weight was scary heavy. Figure 3 inches X 48 X 108 of solid dry walnut worst case say 300 + pounds. I did an original design with hollow coring and I'm shaving even more weight as I build. I will weigh the separate parts for a close estimate before assembly.
   To answer your question- I don't know yet. 
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Magicman

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tule peak timber

I have repeatedly advised the client that as his homes  front door, his arms will look like Popeye after use. :D 
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btulloh

Quote from: tule peak timber on October 25, 2019, 10:05:41 AM
I have repeatedly advised the client that as his homes  front door, his arms will look like Popeye after use. :D
Hydraulic assist,   :D
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ManjiSann

The grain on that last piece in post 26 is just amazing! Is it a finish or water to see how it would look?

This is an amazing build and I too want to thank you for bringing us along!

Brandon 
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tule peak timber

The grain pic in #26 is BLO wiped on one of the "veneers" I'm developing for the frame .We pulled off of this door project for a few weeks to mill material for another job. I store the "veneers ' under cantilevered weights to keep them flat during our weather fluctuations this time of year. Juggling jobs right now !

 
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jbjbuild

Beautiful work! Very impressive and inspirational!
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tule peak timber

So yesterday I dropped back in on the walnut door build by  batch cutting parts to build up the frame torsion box style. Lots of parts means proper collation and marking with chalk. The "skins" for the frame pieces came out of drying in my makeshift press looking pretty good . One advantage of a sliding saw is that multiple jigs can be set up at the same time.

 

 
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WDH

In that last pic, that is what you will look like if you eat too much fermented squid :D. 
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tule peak timber

Glue up today on the center of the door. It was about one year ago that this walnut came in as a truckload....

 

 

 

 

 
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Walnut Beast

That Looks really nice!!!!!!!

thecfarm

That women on the right is looking at The Door the same way I am. Now that A Door!!!
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KODAK

Wow this is awesome. New world I've never been exposed to. Can anyone give me a 5th grader explanation on why walnut is used for grafting or what purpose is served by grafting walnut? 
 More photos please!!

Magicman

To be absolutely sure what fruit/nut a tree will produce a graft has to come from a donor tree producing that fruit/nut.  Also some root systems produce better so again a known hardy "stump" is used. 

That is my 3rd grade  :P  explanation and I am sticking with it.  ;D
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tule peak timber

The nut bearing top portion is actually from ancient Persia. This is  called English walnut and how it came by that name is convoluted. The nut bearing top produces large uniform, commercially viable, commercially processable nuts with which we are all familiar. The problem with the Persian (English) walnut trees is that they are susceptible to a variety of soil borne pathogens that the native CA walnut (Claro) is immune to. To get the volume and quality of nut production for a commercial operation (orchard), a couple of varieties of tops are grafted to the native CA walnut to get the best of both worlds. The older grafted trees are highly prized for gunstocks and the burls end up in the dashboards of a Mercedes Benz or a Rolls Royce . The picture below is a typical old growth CA orchard walnut tree. I will have a couple more pics of the finished door shortly. Cheers, Rob

 
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Stephen1

Nice door! Thanks for the explanation on grafting.
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tule peak timber

First coat of colored oil today... 8)

 

 
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Dan_Shade

Very nice. 

Do you use linseed oil? 
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tule peak timber

Quote from: Dan_Shade on April 27, 2020, 08:13:30 PM
Very nice.

Do you use linseed oil?
No ,not on this one. The oil is a log home finish in Oxford brown color then wiped back with rags soaked in thinner. Tomorrow morning a tie coat of a light brown burnished with a Scotch Brite pad. Both of these finishes have a UV restive component.Not my Voodo,,,but off the shelf stuff,,,, :D
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VooDooChikin04

That is a massive door and impressive work!! Amazing. 

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