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Title: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Ed_K on September 26, 2019, 10:11:05 AM
 I bought a few things last Sat.

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 $250. for this delta/milwaukee.

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 An this this delta/milwaukee jointer $250.
 they need a lot of work to put in service but I think it was worth it, know better when I get them cleaned up.
 I also bought a couple other things I thought I needed.

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 I don't know what this is but I think I can use it to build a slab planer table?
 The motor for the jointer ran but the motor for the lathe started then tripped the braker. Can't tell if it's 110 or 220 here's a pic.

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 Can't read the plate it's all rust.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: sawguy21 on September 26, 2019, 11:24:26 AM
 ;D Auctions are fun, looks like you did well. A 220 motor plugged into 110 will get very hot very quickly.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: doc henderson on September 26, 2019, 01:07:28 PM
sometimes there is a wire schematic on the inside of a removable cover.  It might have a 110 or 220 diagram.  the plug if it has one should be spedific for 110 or 220. I have had some alum. plates the were unreadable, but a phone pic allowed me to make out some numbers.  often a dealer can help if you get in the ball park.  they will know as an example if the second character is a letter or a number.  good luck.  some of the old stuff is better than is produced today.  IMHO.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Nebraska on September 26, 2019, 03:42:40 PM
Nice haul of auction treasure bounty. 
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Brad_bb on September 26, 2019, 09:44:40 PM
I also want to know what that thing is that says Belsaw!
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Don P on September 27, 2019, 06:28:10 AM
 Nice haul, I've got a few of the old wooden handscrew clamps.
Belsaw made a lot of sharpening equipment. An old school sharpening shop might be able to tell you what it's first use was.

Those lathes were usually 120 volt, but usually doesn't mean a thing with old stuff.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Jeff on September 27, 2019, 08:52:13 AM
I also want to know what that thing is that says Belsaw!
Could it be a flat knife grinder? 
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: luap on September 27, 2019, 09:33:56 AM
Without seeing the nameplate I have two motors that look identical to yours. One is mounted on a blower for my planer at 110 volt. The other is on a table saw at 220 volt.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Resonator on September 27, 2019, 10:25:17 AM
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Could it be a flat knife grinder?
That would be my guess also. Looking at the bolt holes in the castings on the ends, I would think what you have is only the top part, with the sliding motor for the grinding stone. There should be a frame base it bolts to that clamps the knives in place. 
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: moodnacreek on September 27, 2019, 12:41:11 PM
Back then slabs where slabs. There is tons of literature out there on bellsaw tools. Today they are Timberking.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: doc henderson on September 27, 2019, 12:48:30 PM
looks like a collet on the motor shaft.  @Will_Johnson (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=540) 
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Ed_K on September 28, 2019, 08:12:53 AM
 Yesterday I was going thru the boxes the clamps came in a found a white cloth bag. In the bag was allen wrenches two nuts an bolts that fit the holes in the base of the belsaw frame and a white grind stone that fits in the collet on the motor. So I guess I have a knife grinder with no base or knife holder now the journey begins to get the rest of the machine. I do have a big flat knife grinder that someone gave me yrs ago that I never set up. I'll take a pic of the motor info plate an put it up. It has a 110 plug on it. That's why I plugged it in to see if it worked. I had to spin the big pulley to get it going then it tripped the breaker at the house so I gave up.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Don P on September 28, 2019, 08:29:38 AM
Some knife grinders live on the top of the planer to sharpen in place.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Larry on September 29, 2019, 10:29:57 AM
If your lathe motor is capacitor start, the centrifugal switch could be stuck which will trip the breaker.

The best solution is to find a used 3 phase motor and run it with a VFD.  This will give you variable speed, reverse, and motor overload protection.
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: Ed_K on September 30, 2019, 08:12:56 AM
If your lathe motor is capacitor start, the centrifugal switch could be stuck which will trip the breaker.

The best solution is to find a used 3 phase motor and run it with a VFD.  This will give you variable speed, reverse, and motor overload protection.
 That is way beyond my intelligence of electricity. This is why I'll never own or work on a new skidder  ;D. It'll be easier for me to go to tsc an get a new 3/4 hp motor that runs on 110 from my generator. The electric co. wanted to much money to run a line 350' to my rebuilt sugar house where I plan to have a small wood working shop  8).
Title: Re: Place to post "Bought at Auction"
Post by: doc henderson on September 30, 2019, 09:49:36 AM
we have a electric motor shop, and they do big stuff, but will usually look at something like that and tell you what is wrong and what it might cost to fix.  initially at no charge.  good luck.