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Title: 6 years late, better then never!
Post by: moosehunter on July 29, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
We finally broke ground on our house project after many delays. About four weeks ago we broke ground with my friend Al running the 655 and me on the Kubota.

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Next we built forms. I sawed the form boards with my Norwood mill 5 or 6 years ago!

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This past Saturday the footers were poured.


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Monday morning (yesterday) Terry from Hoover Hardware in Troy PA showed up with our NuDura forms for the foundation and spent the day teaching us how to put them up. It rained all day but I am happy with the results so far.

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Hopefully will pour the wall next a week from Friday.
Title: Re: 6 years late, better then never!
Post by: Magicman on July 29, 2014, 08:12:37 AM
Wow, you are looking good.  That is also a very nice setting.   smiley_thumbsup
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Post by: WmFritz on July 29, 2014, 08:16:15 AM
Great progress.  8)
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Post by: LittleJohn on July 29, 2014, 08:28:14 AM
Got to love ICFs; they make insulating underslabs so much nicer

...plus it looks like a very nice view will be had from the house, ove the pond/lake
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Post by: thecfarm on July 29, 2014, 09:24:28 AM
Lucky you, how's big the pond?
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Post by: Raider Bill on July 29, 2014, 11:04:31 AM
Are you going to ICF all the way up?
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Post by: moosehunter on July 29, 2014, 12:24:16 PM
Pond is 3/8 of an acre.
ICFs foundation only, rest of house will be log construction.
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Post by: Hilltop366 on July 29, 2014, 12:28:40 PM
Nice looking place, I will enjoy following along.
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Post by: Piston on July 29, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
That looks like a beautiful spot!  Looking forward to more photos along the way. 

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Post by: Raider Bill on July 29, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
I really liked working with ICF's. They make a huge difference heating the house.
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Post by: LittleJohn on July 30, 2014, 08:47:42 AM
Quote from: Raider Bill on July 29, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
I really liked working with ICF's. They make a huge difference heating the house.
Volunteered at a local Habitat for Humanity house a few years back and they had full ICFs; from basement to rafters.  The guys in charge said that they had run the numbers and it was about break even between full ICF and stick built.  At least they don't have to worry about termites  :D as much
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Post by: Raider Bill on July 30, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: LittleJohn on July 30, 2014, 08:47:42 AM
Quote from: Raider Bill on July 29, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
I really liked working with ICF's. They make a huge difference heating the house.
Volunteered at a local Habitat for Humanity house a few years back and they had full ICFs; from basement to rafters.  The guys in charge said that they had run the numbers and it was about break even between full ICF and stick built.  At least they don't have to worry about termites  :D as much

It's more $$ up front but if you live in extremely hot or cold areas you gain it back fast in lower power bills.

Once I get my 2000 sqft house up to temp it only takes about 10 pieces of firewood to maintain it for a day in the winter.

I've seen them not only were the walls ICF but also the roof. Pretty much a bomb shelter.
Title: Re: 6 years late, better then never!
Post by: moosehunter on August 16, 2014, 08:19:50 PM
more progress;
Adding reinforcing around windows and doors before the pour.


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A pic of the wall bracing system.


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The concrete pump truck cleaning up after the pour.


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The pump truck is capable of reaching 103', the operator could move the chute/ pipe an inch at a time, very impressive!
Title: Re: 6 years late, better then never!
Post by: LittleJohn on August 18, 2014, 11:45:18 AM
Pump trucks are AWESOME, they used one ay my dad's place 48'x90' (7 loads of cement) and they could not get the trucks close enough to dump, so they pumped the whole thing in one big pour
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Post by: jdtuttle on August 19, 2014, 06:36:13 AM
Nice looking job. Did you use Doucette's pump trucks out of Candor?
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Post by: Thehardway on August 19, 2014, 09:08:26 AM
Looking great!  Keep up the good work.  Are you going to get dried in before winter?
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Post by: Raider Bill on August 19, 2014, 11:04:47 AM
Did you sweat the pour? I did the night before worrying about blowouts :D
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Post by: moosehunter on August 19, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
Yes, JD out of Candor

We hope to get the foundation dried up before the first snow. Logs (main floor) are at least two years out. Trying to do this with out a mortgage.

I was very nervous about the pour until that morning, then I seemed to find an inner peace and just went with the flow! Someone would say something about a potential problem and I would just hand that problem off to someone that could handle it and I went back to work!
Title: Re: 6 years late, better then never!
Post by: Raider Bill on August 20, 2014, 09:36:21 AM
Quote from: moosehunter on August 19, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
Yes, JD out of Candor

We hope to get the foundation dried up before the first snow. Logs (main floor) are at least two years out. Trying to do this with out a mortgage.

I was very nervous about the pour until that morning, then I seemed to find an inner peace and just went with the flow! Someone would say something about a potential problem and I would just hand that problem off to someone that could handle it and I went back to work!

That's sort of what happened with me. When the cement trucks and pumper showed up I pretty much just resigned to the "whatever happens happens" mode although I didn't have anyone to hand off to.
Title: Re: 6 years late, better then never!
Post by: danreed76 on August 21, 2014, 06:25:35 AM
Quote from: moosehunter on August 19, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
We hope to get the foundation dried up before the first snow. Logs (main floor) are at least two years out. Trying to do this with out a mortgage.

congratulations on that; that's much the same as we're doing... save a little, work a lot...  we're about a year and a half into ours.

Quote from: moosehunter on August 19, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
I was very nervous about the pour until that morning, then I seemed to find an inner peace and just went with the flow! Someone would say something about a potential problem and I would just hand that problem off to someone that could handle it and I went back to work!

It has to be one of the most nerve racking days (and night before) all the way up until the concrete starts flowing.  Once the concrete starts moving, you don't have time to be nervous.

Great job on the pour.  glad all went well.
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Post by: Leigh Family Farm on August 21, 2014, 10:58:21 AM
Nice looking build. How big is your house gonna be when finished?
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Post by: moosehunter on August 23, 2014, 02:56:48 PM
The footprint is 1500 sqft.
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Post by: moosehunter on August 29, 2014, 08:30:49 AM
The septic drain pipes are in place

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Yesterday the first load of base stone was installed

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Stone Slinger trucks are cool. I love machines, especially ones that save labor! 40+ tons with a wheel borrow would have been brutal! The rest of the stone will be here Tuesday (DanG holiday weekends) then lots of leveling and compacting.
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Post by: Stephen1 on September 13, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
I really like my ICF basement, it never freezes even without the heat turned on.
Looking good MH
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Post by: Banjo picker on September 15, 2014, 09:53:21 PM
Mighty fine looking walls.  Banjo
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Post by: jdtuttle on September 16, 2014, 05:50:48 AM
I like to see that your planning ahead for radon mitigation. The perimeter pipe is cheap compared to doing it later. Great job :).
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Post by: moosehunter on October 22, 2014, 07:22:54 PM
 

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The Pex is in place.

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The right parts make it almost easy.

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Concrete going into place.


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Floor joists are going up.
This seems to be taking forever but I am doing everything myself except friends helping with concrete pours,.. AND I appreciate the help!!
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Post by: addicted on October 22, 2014, 09:22:52 PM
Great pictures. Did you price out open floor truss's and tji's. I'm having trouble getting a good price for the open web truss without redrawing the entire floor design. I was wondering what the difference is in price.
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Post by: Raider Bill on October 23, 2014, 11:31:10 AM
Looking great!!  I remember putting up my 48' floor trusses, what a job!

Question, why the open space between the beams?
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Post by: moosehunter on October 23, 2014, 06:48:06 PM
addicted ; did not price open joists
Bill; If I had taken the pic today the third beam would be there ;) Had to use a come-along and three ratchet straps to get that third one up. I put every one of the joists up myself. Put 5 or 6 on balanced on the forks of the Kubota, drive behind the house where the grade is higher and set one end of the joists on the sill plate. Push one joist to it's balance point, go back around the house and up a ladder to pull it in, drag it across the room and up the other ladder,...... repeat. Longest ones were 34'. I think one more foot and I would have needed another person!
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Post by: Magicman on October 24, 2014, 08:21:35 AM
Looking very good !!   8)

I understand "friends" when dealing with concrete.   :o
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Post by: Banjo picker on October 24, 2014, 06:22:46 PM
Yes as long as a couple of those friends knows what they are doing...Banjo
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Post by: moosehunter on October 24, 2014, 07:49:59 PM
Had one friend that knows what he is doing, been doing it all his life. Traded his expertise for a little sawing job ;) The rest of us just did what he told us to.
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Post by: Banjo picker on October 24, 2014, 08:18:15 PM
Good deal...  You have a nice looking floor laid out with the Pex pipe ..  I used that for the water line in my youngest sons house a few years back when copper got out of sight....As I do work on my house ...plumbing wise... it is converted to pex as well..   Banjo
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Post by: isawlogs on October 24, 2014, 08:33:33 PM
 I love looking at great workmenship.  8)
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Post by: WmFritz on October 24, 2014, 11:31:42 PM
Looking mighty fine, Mike.
I used those manifolds in my cabin. Nice quality.