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mesquite buckeye

More stuff.

 
It's purty here.


 
Here is that hedged and popcorned walnut from spring of 2014. Was going to put before and after pruning. Saw won't start. I'll get back to you. ;D 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

mesquite buckeye

Well, that hedged and popcorned walnut was one of them there white walnuts and the leaves smell like a hickory, as in it is a pecan. :-[ :-[ :-[

Actually, turns out all the walnuts I planted there didn't make it but a bunch of pecans did. ;D 8) 8) 8) :snowball: That's ok. We should start to see nuts in a couple or three years from how big they are now. Anyway here is that tree all pruned up so we can get some veneer grade  smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil smiley_devil

 


View of the CRP planting from my dad's old deer stand. Sorry, the trees are getting so big it is hard to see.

 


And a nice Misssouri sunset.

 


Until next time.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

mesquite buckeye

More photos from the 1999 CRP planting. The trees that didn't get pounded too bad are mostly 10-25 feet tall now.

  

 
Nice walnuts coming in between the cedars.

 
Pruning up.

  

 
Those fine textured trees along the skyline are the thinned and pruned black locusts. About 40 feet tall now.

  

 
Multiflora roses are bad. >:( Some of them are 15 feet tall and as wide.


 
But pie is good.



 

I have mentioned a pretty good sized elm in the woods, probably around 24" dbh. Here it is, still growing.

  

 
There is a usable cherry right next to it so they will likely come out together when the time comes.



 
Growing clear cedar.

Here is a pair of field edge cedars that were first pruned at maybe 6-8 feet tall in around 1995 or 1996. They have been pruned higher about 3 more times since.

  

  

 
If you look at the bottom photo, you can see the pruning history of the larger of the two trees. The lowest part is now growing clear lumber. About 2 feet of the trunk is obscured by branches and foreground. The just healed over branches about 1/4 of the way up is the second pruning. Third pruning in the center and just pruned at the top. The gradual pruning process results in a cone of knotty wood largest at the top and smallest at the bottom. I think to get full length clear lumber you need another 6-8" of additional growth,which would make the log around 20" at that time. There are no signs of any rot or conks. The tree is maybe 12-13" dbh now.


Got a little milling done. One dead cherry, a few old rotten walnut logs from 2011 and some cedar. I'm trying to develop a market for short stub cedar for fireplace mantles, coat and hat racks, etc. These are a couple of my grand nephews, 7 and 9. The 9 year old is expected to be taller than his 6' 8" dad and stockier. Maybe he'll be a famous linebacker or at least help in the woods someday.

  

 
Adam is happy.

 
Cutting knobby cedar.

 
Some old man doing stuff. 

   ;D

  

 
And a picture of a dirty old man just for fun.

 



 
Got this old shed over at another sister's house that she lets me use to store lumber, but rain blows in the windows. Fixt with surplus greenhouse plastic from the saguaro hill. Should work for a few more years.


Too bad, but the drought from a few years ago did in this old cottonwood that overhangs the shed.

 
Looks little but it is about 36" dbh and of unknown rottiness at the time. It was in waist high poison ivy and had come up in the midst of a disk harrow, which it later overgrew. I had to cut it at waist height. Also plenty of tires to avoid. What a mess. Her father in law was not a neatness counts guy. :( I think they will be cleaning up the mess for at least another 5 years.

Anyway, the bark was loose and scary, unknown solidness and questionable whether it wanted to go the right way. Face cut it and drove 2 ten inch wedges into the backcut, ran out of wedge, so started cutting out the center of the holding wood for more fun. Down it went perfect. Whew.

 

Here is the butt of the log floating over the stump.

 
I know the rings are hard to see but a lot of them are an inch wide. I don't think this tree was much over 20 years old. It came up where the roof runoff ran down the hill and got regular irrigation right up to when it stopped raining in 2012 and 2013. Then 2 real  skinny rings and out.




  

 
Until next time. ;D 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

vasquat

MB,

Are you still out there?  I'm a newbie, just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed this thread. Great pictures, thank you

livemusic

Yes, as a nature lover, I loved it, cuz I read the whole thing in one sitting! Wonder where he is!
~~~
Bill

mesquite buckeye

Still kicking and just returned from Missouri to Tucson. We milled one of the red cedar trees pruned at least 20 years ago which provided some interesting information about the effects of pruning on wood quality for this species. Now I have to figure out how to make my photo files small enough to post.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

Magicman

Welcome back, I've been wondering where you were.  ffwave
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mesquite buckeye

Trying to post a picture again. Posts 63, 66, 67, 68, 69, 73 (late in the post) All about red cedar pruning. Well, quite a few years have passed and my greenhouses at home need substantial repair due to rot and aerial termites. Hoping that using red cedar lumber will give them a tummy ache. This 2X4 contains lots of information regarding results of pruning. If you take a look at the lower knot which was alive at pruning, the grow over was very clean with no rot. I thing the upper knot was a dead branch. Note the included bark which was already present at pruning. Also clean overgrowth post pruning. I didn't count the post pruning rings but lots of these trees got pruned from 2005-2008. It's been a while. The knot free wood was around 3" thick. The outermost boards were clear or nearly so. This tree was probably around 10"+- at pruning. We like to get to them when they get like 3-4" thick and prune in lifts as the trees grow. The beneficial effects of the pruning decline with increasing height of the tree since it is not possible to maintain both a narrow trunk and to keep the tree alive and growing. This results in the knot pattern being small near the tree base with a gradually increasing diameter with height. Rot was noted in this tree going up from the stump and following the pith up the tree trunk center. It was a rot that left fibrous punk as a residue. The rot was conical in shape and about a foot long and perhaps 2" in diameter at the base. It also extended through the log full length and was about 1/4" in diameter along the pith line. It was so minimal that it could be ignored. I'd say it is a sign it was time to harvest the tree. No rot at all was associated with the pruned branches.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

mesquite buckeye

well, that didn't work. I'll try again later.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

beenthere

mesquite
You need to put your pics into your gallery, and then link to those in your gallery to your posts. None are showing up in your gallery, that I can see. 
This is the way you used to do photos, back in the day. 
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mesquite buckeye

I get a message the file is too big..
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

mesquite buckeye

It's in my gallery but I can't figure out how to get it here.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

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Magicman

Quote from: mesquite buckeye on November 06, 2024, 10:27:36 PMIt's in my gallery but I can't figure out how to get it here.
I have found that, for me, it's easier to open two tabs; one (1) with my normal posting window and the other (2) to upload and select pictures.  I select the picture and copy the BBCode (normal) in (2) and paste it in the posting window in (1).

I use a laptop, not my phone.
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

mesquite buckeye

Quote from: Ljohnsaw on November 06, 2024, 11:25:05 PM
Thanks for moving it. Sure seems more complicated than I remember.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

mesquite buckeye

Quote from: Magicman on November 07, 2024, 08:32:11 AM
Quote from: mesquite buckeye on November 06, 2024, 10:27:36 PMIt's in my gallery but I can't figure out how to get it here.
I have found that, for me, it's easier to open two tabs; one (1) with my normal posting window and the other (2) to upload and select pictures.  I select the picture and copy the BBCode (normal) in (2) and paste it in the posting window in (1).

I use a laptop, not my phone.

Thanks for the suggestion. Long time no see. How are you holding up?
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

Magicman

Da old man is still kicking and still sawing although I am being selective about my jobs.  I want smaller and closer to home.  I sawed last Friday and should finish that job today and tomorrow if the weather/rain holds.
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Nebraska

Where in central Missouri is the 80? I am (relative to this thread) new here just interested, spent a few years of my life in Columbia. 

Texas Ranger

Quote from: Nebraska on November 09, 2024, 10:40:58 AMWhere in central Missouri is the 80? I am (relative to this thread) new here just interested, spent a few years of my life in Columbia.
What years at Mizzou?  I graduated in 1962.
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Nebraska

1990-1994, they made me leave, said I was a Dr then.  :wink_2: 

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