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Title: odd weather
Post by: thecfarm on January 08, 2007, 09:35:49 AM
Just wanted to start a thread about odd weather in your area.I live in Central Maine.I'm sitting here waiting for it to stop raining again.We had a few inches of snow last night and now it is raining.Not that I can really go out with my tractor and do anything.There would be mud every where if I did that.Just walking around I can feel how soft the ground is.Got up a few days ago and it was almost 40 ° at 4:00.Got up to the high 50's and broke records all over the state.We did have some snow,than rain and temps in the 40's melted it all.The dirt road in just like a spring thaw.Seems like we have a storm at least once a week now.Be it a few inches of snow than rain.Paper claimed we had a thunder storm with lighten and all that good stuff.Unheard of in Me in the month of Jan.Been this way since mid Nov.We did have about 2 weeks of normal weather.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2007, 10:15:55 AM
Today is the first near normal day we have had since November.  We got about 2 inches of snow last night and the temps dropped to around freezing.  They say in this area we have had so far the 2nd warmest winter ever  and the 7th wettest.  We still have annuals that should have been froze and dead in October coming up from the bottom. Just south of our area they are extremely worried about the sugar beet crop as the huge mountains of beets that are awaiting processing are not being protected by the usual natural refrigeration. All the rain going through through piles warms the center and starts them to rot. We have zero ice on the lakes and until last night no snow.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: sawguy21 on January 08, 2007, 10:20:45 AM
The local ski resorts have the best conditions they have seen for years yet the wind and rain here has been exceptional.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: jon12345 on January 08, 2007, 10:32:11 AM
The other day we had record high and a record high for the low, I think a few have been broke here recently in central NY.  When it finally does get cold enough to snow around here we are goin to get pounded with lake effect since erie and ontario are still open.


A lot of people are worrying about what this is going to mean for the maple syrup production. 
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 08, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
Last February my cousin was driving around through his Christmas tree fields with the pickup and just up the road he set up pipelines in a little maple grove. The sap has not ran well for the last couple years here and it ain't going to be all that great this year unless we get some snow. We had snow started here at 6 am. I suppose close to 2 inches so far. Goin go to flip over to rain sometime. Yesterday we had almost 0 snow, I was out last night walking under a clear sky with stars and 32 F weather, this morning it's 28 F , now up to 31F. It was like this back in winter of 1979-80, and we burnt brush from a harvest my uncle did all winter for something to do. Many days were in the 40' some as high as mid 60's.

This fall I was out to the Hargrove maple sugary and that place is huge. They must have 1000 acres tapped.  All I could see was pipes and sugar maples for miles. It's set up on crown land as the government has leases for maple syrup producers. I have an aerial photo of the area on my computer, because I was navigating my way back into a private lot.

We had bristly locust that leaved out on the lawn in February, March turned cold and snowed and killed the trees.

I remember a few springs planting grain the first week of April, a normal spring planting will begin no sooner than the last week of April, but more often mid May.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: TexasTimbers on January 08, 2007, 10:59:03 AM
About the time it dries up enough to no longer have puddles of water, we get another good soak. I'm not saying it is unusual, but it is frustrating. If it ever gets dry enough I am going to put in about  1/8 acre of concrete and 1/2 acre of rock.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: twobears on January 08, 2007, 11:17:11 AM

i love the weather we,ve been getting here (very warm for us and little to no snow). i,ve gotten alot of work done i couldn,t otherwise.
but,i feel sorry for alot of my friends and old co-workers.i have one friend that makes alot of his paycheck cutting cedar in the winter.he,s really hurting because he can,t get in the swamps where the cedar is.the loggers are hurting too.. it,s just to muddy to get in the woods.most winters i hardly see a skidder,ect being moved.but,this winter it,s been a steady stream of them going by my house on the state highway.i heard everybody is either shut down or moving alot to try and stay out of the mud.


delbert
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: solodan on January 08, 2007, 11:38:09 AM
We have recieved less than a foot of snowfall at my place so far this year. :-\ and only have a snowpack of about 3-4 feet in the high country. This is unusual, but we have seen this before.  All of the storms have been going to the north, but everything will eventually shift, and then we will get cold air from the north mixed with storms coming out of the south pacific and we will get 15 feet of snow in march, and then everyone that complained about it not snowing, will be complaining that it won't stop, cause it will snow through april, and then through june in the high country. :-\  I hope I'm wrong.  ::) :D
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 08, 2007, 02:18:27 PM
Well we've been getting thecfarm's rain since 2 pm (AST). It's not raining real hard, yet. The temp is just at 32 F but I suspect it will climb overnight.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Ken on January 08, 2007, 06:18:44 PM
Still raining hard here in central NB after getting about 6 inches of snow earlier in the day.   Doesn't hurt my feelings though.  Each day that it is not 30 below 0 or blizzard like is one day closer to spring.   8)
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: farmerdoug on January 08, 2007, 09:48:55 PM
Well, it is below freezing here now and the ground is harding up.  smiley_blue_bounce I may be able to move the equipment in the morning without making to much of a mess.  Maybe it will freeze up enough to haul a few logs out this weekend. 8)

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: logbutcher on January 08, 2007, 10:00:34 PM
All in the northeast have the same problem: too *DanG wet underfoot. Can't bring even the ATV with soft wheels into the woods. Well maybe Chicken Little (aka AlGore running hard for '08) is correct...this year at least. We do our TSI and firewood only when the ground is frozen hard, or at least protected with 6" + of snow. Just have to sit around eating Bon-Bons and watching the soaps.  :( Some heavy gear owners have put their rigs up for sale. Tough times.
Some work on foot can be done, but not too well. If you stack pulp or firewood it'll freeze hard to the ground. Time to think about Disney World  :-[
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Faron on January 08, 2007, 10:08:39 PM
Rain, and more rain. Something like 20 inches above normal for 2006.  We did have a few days in Dec. when the ground froze some.  Lately it's been exceptionly warm.  That is supposed to change next week with lows in the single digits.  I hate cold weather, but we need some of it.  I think people and animals do better with a colder winter than with one like we have been having.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Mooseherder on January 08, 2007, 10:09:34 PM
Was never an Al Gore fan but kept an open mind to his Movie "An Inconvenient Truth" about global warming.
If you have access to the DVD it is worth watching.
I also kinda like him now. :D
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: ohsoloco on January 08, 2007, 10:16:52 PM
I'm so excited that it's supposed to get into the 20's tomorrow night, and only about 32-33 on Wednesday.  I should be able to get my skid loader up the hill to the fire pit Wednesday morning to dump a few loads of slabs that have been in my way for a few weeks  :(  I had some people over for a bonfire New Year's Eve.  Rained off and on all night, and the field got so slippery you couldn't walk on it anymore.  A friend of mine that parked in the field couldn't get out (it's on a slope)...he just kept sliding down towards my firewood pile.  Had to open up some space so I could hook up the trailer to the truck and winch him out  :-\

Man o' man I can't wait for the ground to freeze, too bad it won't last long...50's and raining for the end of the week  ::)
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 08, 2007, 10:21:12 PM
Going down to 20 F on Tuesday night and back up to near 30 Wednesday, 10's Thursday night, 25 F and flurries Friday. It ain't been below 0F all winter and only at 0 3 or 4 days, but not consecutively.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: jon12345 on January 08, 2007, 10:24:08 PM
We're getting a little snow now, has been snowing on and off since about 2:30 this afternoon and got about an inch so far. Supposed to be in 30-40's again the rest of the week.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: fuzzybear on January 09, 2007, 08:49:17 AM
   well up here in the great white north it's been interesting. November we had record cold temps of -48c. Cold for november. Then in December we had days on the plus side of zero. It's the first time in 17 years I havn't seen the river freeze over completely.
   We can usually run the entire river into town with our pickup, but this year I'm leary using the skidoo. But it seems like normal lately. -30 and dropping.
   Keep in mind as I write this it's -37 and supposed to drop to -50 tonight.  ;)
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: farmerdoug on January 09, 2007, 08:52:30 AM
Well it is cold outside but the worst thing happened, it snowed.  We have about 1 1/2 inches of snow on the crust of frozen ground.  This will certainly slow the freezing on the ground greatly.  Oh well I guess it is to be the theme this winter.

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 09, 2007, 11:35:10 AM
34 F here now. About 2 inches if you stretch the tape measure. 8)
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Bill Johnson on January 09, 2007, 04:23:55 PM
It has cooled off some since last week here. Last Friday it was +5 and raining, first time I ever had to wear rain gear in January doing field inspections, still no snow to speak of maybe 10cm in the bush if we are lucky, but the cold is coming forecast for tomorrow -28 with the windchill in the morning, heating up to -11 in the after noon, still no big snows in the forecast.

Our fish and wildlife guys are getting antsy, they are planning an aerial moose survey and need at least 30cm of fresh snow before they can go.

But I'm with Ken, any day without winter is just day closer to spring, though I shudder to think what our early fire season may be like if the snow melts and the ice stays in April, hard to pump ice :D
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Onthesauk on January 09, 2007, 10:55:11 PM
At 2:00PM today it was mid 50's and dry.  At 3:00PM it was low 40's and raining sideways.  We lost power for a couple of hours.  At 4:30PM it was 30 and snowing hard.  Now it's back in the mid 30's and raining.  Suppose to have a few inches of snow by morning and then in the 20's for the next week.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 10, 2007, 06:31:22 AM
20 ° F here this morning as predicted.

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Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Coon on January 10, 2007, 06:54:19 AM
Well unusuall weather yes and no.  For the most part we have had a warmer than average fall/winter.  We have had more snow already this winter than we normally get in the whole winter.  No frost to speak of the snow came too soon and too fast.  Normall winter logging blocks are shut down for the season because of this.  Definately have winter weather right as I am typing this.  We have whiteout conditions with temps in the -20C range (without winds) and the radio just said it is like -38C with windchill.  They are claiming we are going to have these conditions for the next 2-3 days (whiteout) and cold temps until weekend at the earliest.  Will snap a couple of pics when it gets daylight.

Brad.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 10, 2007, 07:04:30 AM
Irving has shut down all it's woodland operations province wide, too wet in the woods.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Cedarman on January 10, 2007, 07:45:38 AM
All I read here is just talk about the weather, ain't anybody going to do something about it?

Am not looking forward to rain as predicted Fri, Sat, Sun.
At least I can get a lot of cedar cut and ready to forward out.  Log yard is on a hill top with a 3' deep clay base.  Won't take too much travel to make it....

Put 4 loads rock in mill yard and it is holding up nice.  Cedar has been coming in at a good pace, but I expect this week to slow down.

Rain, rain go away, come again some other day.

I know there are rain dances to make it rain.  Are there unrain dances?
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Coon on January 10, 2007, 11:08:18 AM
Cedarman, atleast you have conditions you can work in somewhat.  This picture shows what it's like here right now.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12427/Minimal%20Visibility.jpg)

and this to...........

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12427/Lloyds%20House%2075%20yards%20away.jpg)

There's more pics of the blizzard in my gallery.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Coon on January 10, 2007, 11:19:04 AM
I forgot to mention about the stike action going on right now that the department of highways is part of.  The managers of each branch are the only workers right now.  It poses a potentionally dangerous situation out there.  How are the ambulances, police, firetrucks and other rescue units supposed to do there jobs when the roads are blocked.  The strike action is all a part of the big SGEU strike lobbying for better pay and benefits.  Some workers have not had pay increases in over 5 years and deserve it.  The government will not match or come to deal with the Saskatchewan Government Employees Union members.  Some of the members included are environment and resource management employees, Correctional workers,  and Department of Highways workers.  Not a pleasant time..........
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Onthesauk on January 10, 2007, 11:32:37 AM
 SwampDonkey,
Read your post about three times before it dawned on me what you were saying.

   30° here, snow has almost stopped but almost 4 inches on the ground.

Years ago in the old Wordperfect, I use to know all the key combinations for all the special characters.  Haven't used any of them for years.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: sawguy21 on January 10, 2007, 11:37:02 AM
We had another windstorm yesterday, power was off when I got home. Fire trucks were being used as roadblocks as their crews were clearing fallen trees. Still, I don't miss the weather Coon is getting, had enough of that.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Tom on January 10, 2007, 11:47:52 AM
We made those special characters available in the "reply" screen too.  They are just above "change color"

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Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 10, 2007, 12:00:21 PM
Were they always there Tom?
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Tom on January 10, 2007, 12:04:20 PM
been there a year now.  Jeff and I were sitting at the computer late one night when he was down visiting and it just seemed like a good thing to put on there.  The cent sign is what started it and we got carried away.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 10, 2007, 12:10:14 PM
For some reason I couldn't find it there, but was looking right at it.  :D :D :D


But, at least the other procedure is there if someone wants to try it in Word or InDesign or something.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: jon12345 on January 10, 2007, 12:31:41 PM
I always thought plows were one of those professions that couldn't go on strike or a kind of working strike.  Still gotta do their job while negotiations are taking place, then are reimbursed for the time the 'strike' started for wages/bene's gained.  If someone died because an ambulance couldn't get down a road that should've been plowed, wouldn't the highway dept. be charged with negligence in some way?

BTW most places snowplows are concidered emergency vehicles, even if the roads are passable.  I got my car totalled by one that ran a stop sign, couldn't do nothing about it  >:( >:(  smiley_furious  Guess the plow driver was too concerned about the little patch of snow left from entering the street and not watchin the main highway.  Bad karma though, that towns highway garage burned to the ground a couple months later -  I only got accused a couple times of bein the one that did it  :-\
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Onthesauk on January 10, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
Wish I had ± a 1,000£ for the number of times I missed the obvious.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: thecfarm on January 10, 2007, 08:28:33 PM
Now I'm mad. >:( Someone done forgot to throw another log on the fire.Down to 11°.I'm not use to this cold weather.What happened to the 30° weather I got use to having?Guess I'll have to wait a couple days for it get back up to 40 on Friday.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 10, 2007, 08:40:59 PM
Yup, but only tonight and back up to the 20's and 30's for the next week. Might get snow flurries here over the weekend. Snow squally weather seems to be our biggest storms. :D :D
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Cedarman on January 11, 2007, 07:19:51 AM
We are under a flash flood watch this weekend. A little rain tonight, safe tomorrow, rain coming in Sat, big rains Sun and rain then snow, going cold into the low 20's middle of the week.  I am sick of rain.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: farmerdoug on January 11, 2007, 08:50:44 AM
Cedarman,  I hear you on the rain.  It is suppose to rain here Friday and Saturday before it gets cold again.  But look on the bright side with the flood and cold weather you will soon be able to skid on the ice, down hill only though. ::)

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: sawguy21 on January 11, 2007, 10:14:13 AM
Went out after visiting here yesterday and there was 4" of wet snow on the ground. :o Spent an hour shovelling the drive and sidewalk. Another inch or so fell in the afternoon. Clear and cold (for here), -6C this morning.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 11, 2007, 11:47:38 AM
sawguy, if it is anything like up in Prince Rupert we'de get those cold blasts every 'whip stitch', called outflow winds coming down the mainland river valleys.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: Faron on January 11, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
White River floodwater has closed the highway north of town for several days already. (This happens usually a couple or three times a year.)  Heavy rain due this weekend ought to really force it higher.  Not looking forward to all the rain. go_away
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 20, 2007, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: SwampDonkey on January 08, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
This fall I was out to the Hargrove maple sugary and that place is huge. They must have 1000 acres tapped.  All I could see was pipes and sugar maples for miles. It's set up on crown land as the government has leases for maple syrup producers. I have an aerial photo of the area on my computer, because I was navigating my way back into a private lot.

Well in 2004 they expanded from 45,000 taps to 105,000 with 3 full time employees and 8 seasonal. At the time they were awarded an ACOA grant of $385,850.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: TW on February 21, 2007, 10:20:33 AM
For the first time this winter we have ordinary weather now.
-18 degrees celsius and some 30 cm(1 foot) of snow. Before this it was just raining when it was supposed to be midwinter.
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: fuzzybear on February 22, 2007, 01:26:33 AM
ALRIGHT ALREADY!!!!!!  I know you guys are tired of winter but did you have to send it all back up north all at once???!!!! whiteflag_smiley
Sitting here with the fire going and still shivering at a cool -49c.   go_away
Just you guys wait till I get the fans working and pointed back down south again!!! smiley_headscratch
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 22, 2007, 06:29:49 AM
Going to be in the upper 30's on Saturday, nearly 40 F. It's already been quite mild down around Boston. Get your buckets out folks. ;D
Title: Re: odd weather
Post by: sawguy21 on February 22, 2007, 08:44:30 AM
fuzzybear, that was funny. :D :D :D :D