Is anyone else watching the Surviorman series on TV? Maybe I'm missing something, but it really irritated me last night.
I've watched the African plains, the Costa Rican Jungle, and the Amazon shows, and I'm always left wondering why this guy never catches anything to eat, cept bugs and flowers. Last night's episode was taped at Labrador (which is in the very upper part of Canada). The guy had a sled and sled dogs, which he intentionally let go with only one day left to "survive"...he had a gun, which he used to start a fire by shooting some rocks...but the only thing he ate was one of the dogs caribou ribs, and some pussy willow. Seriously, he couldn't shoot something?
So now to the really annoying part....with one day left to go, there was a sudden warming of the temperature and the ocean ice began to melt. This guy was sitting at his fire, supposedly without contact with the rest of the world for seven days, when his crew pulled up on snowmobiles to get him out because of the meltdown. They all went back to the "base" camp, and had a helicopter fly them out.
I lost a lot of respect for Survivorman last night. He stole the dogs food (which the dog had already drug through his own feces)...and then for no good reason, let his team of dogs and sled go....then miraculously his "crew" knows exactly where he is located....and they are lifted out by helicopter.
Maybe it's just me, but I think he ought to be ashamed of himself and the name "Dumbheadman" fits better than "Survivorman".
Am I wrong? :)
Roxie,
You have to be a gringo not to be able to survive in a Costa Rican jungle - there is food EVERYWHERE. When I am in our farms I eat from one corner to the next. Guavas, coconuts, oranges everywhere, manzana de aquas, avocados, shall I go on? An amazing amount of food. And of course in the stream are fresh water prawns the size of small lobsters - crabs, fish of course, frogs, iquana (which taste pretty good)
When poor people head from one part of the country to another they don't pack food - it is falling off the trees.
You give me a gun and drop me off in a Costa Rican jungle and I will come out having gained 5 lbs. :D
The Costa Rico episode was pretty interesting, and he did eat a red fruit of some kind, and he cooked a frog. He didn't have a gun on that episode, but he had a blow gun and tried (unsucessfully) to get a bird. At the end of the episode, he high tails it to an enclosed village because a jaguar is following him. :D
That is so bogus - no jaguar is going to hunt a person. I have never even heard of that down here. Almost anyone in the jungle has a machete - and Jaguars have learned the hard way a machete is better than claws.
Hope the frog wasn't a poison arrow one... :D
Now Roxie... ::) ::)
Can't get those shows much more fake, with all moves choreographed just for the cameraman and the Director. It would be too shocking to show something being shot for food, or for any other reason. About fake, it's on a par with professional wrestling. But then, what on TV isn't?
Even "Dirty Jobs" is faked, albeit the locations and situations are somewhat interesting.
Sorry, my pessimistic side showeth through.... ;D
I watch Survivorman all the time.. The other night he was in Alaska. Fish all around him and he couldn't catch any... He found a piece of fish laying on a rock I think the first day he was there. Supposedly he didn't know how long it had been there,as he figured a bird had put it there. ::) He went ahead and ATE the thing!!!
Then the best part is, he finally got his fire going,and decided one night to put it inside his shelter he had made of logs. During the night he let the flames get too high,and set his shelter in fire!!! :D :D
:D I haven't seen the Alaska episode yet! That's got to be funny!
I guess what disturbs me is this guy's lack of ability to find food, even when he has a 22 rifle. I also wonder what kind of "Survivor" would let the fire go out the way this guy does?
In the Labrador episode, last night, he conveniently found a fully constructed shelter with a WOOD STOVE inside! He stayed in there for 3 nights.
Sadly, I think Beenthere is right. :D I was hoping for a "Survivorman" along the lines of Slyvester Stallone in First Blood. This guy can't even find dinner!
I think it would be a more interesting Survivorman to drop a good ole country boy into a city like Newark NJ. I suspect it would be much more dangerous - unless he had cab fair of course... ;)
Quote from: Teri on September 13, 2007, 02:31:13 PM
......... ::) He went ahead and ATE the thing!!!
Then the best part is, he finally got his fire going,and decided one night to put it inside his shelter he had made of logs. During the night he let the flames get too high,and set his shelter in fire!!! :D :D
What is truly amazing to me, are the many who think they really are 'real'. :)
The other survivor man type show on Discovery Channel (with the British host) mysteriously hasn't been on the air since the host was outted as a fake. He would spend some nights of his "surviving" in five star resorts and such. On the deserted island show the raft he supposedly built on the island was actually flown in. The builder of the raft is the person that outted that show.
I found the article...
Link to the Article (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242007/news/nationalnews/grylls_thrills_bogus__expert_nationalnews_don_kaplan.htm)
The Survivorman Host is a Canadian. He made mention once of his dislike of killing animals.
I think the biggest part missing from these shows is the psycological awarness that you may actually die because you really are lost. If these guy's really get into troule I am sure their producers are just a radio call away. ::)
I got news for the person who dislikes killing animals - get hungry enough and everything starts looking pretty good.
I thought the cartoon flick Madagasser was really good that way. When the lion started getting hungry, his friend the zebra ended up with bite marks... Yep, that is about right.
We have canine teeth for a reason.
:o :o I can't believe ANYBODY would REMOTELY think that show is real ::) ::)
The guy is a EX Military Ranger or equivalent, for crying out loud.
Shooting a rock to start a fire ??? ??? ??? ???
Last I knew, bullets were lead and sometimes copper jacketed. Maybe from the muzzle flash, but, I doubt that, too. ::) ::) ::)
Well, beenthere burst my bubble when he said that pro wrestling was fake. :o :(
Bob smiley_crying
The rate that this is going someone will be saying roller derby is fake too. I cannot remember the last time I sat down and watched TV.I get my fix of the outside world by newspaper.I wonder at times the things that are wrote in there too.
I'm with you guys and gals. My wife was just shanking her head the other night in disbelief as to how lame the show was. The only thing that I got out of it (that I hadn't seen used before and may actually buy one) was that compression fire starting tool. Put a piece of tinder in there and then put the ram in and drive it down. Apprarently the compression creates an ember? I like the idea that it's re-usable. Outside of that big let down. We've definitely got some members here that would make better subjects for that show.
LOGDOG
Survivor Man takes his clothes off to jump in freezing cold water to get at a plant root similiar to what Moose eat. :D
All the while it's getting dark and he has to make a fire. ;D
Then he says it is terrible and spits it out. :D
Ain't he ever heard tell of dat smart guy named Uwel Gibbens tell us we could eat pine tree? ;D
Wait a minute! Wrestling and Roller Derby ain't real? :-X
Next thing you'll say is Santa Claus ain't real. ::)
No, Santa IS real!
I met him at the piggy roast!!! 8) 8) 8)
Have not seen the "Survivor Man" show. I always thought it would be interesting to have a "survivor" type reality show where the contestants are dropped a couple hundred miles "back in the woods" with a map, compass, .22, matches and a knife. First one out alive wins. No alliances or voting. Just let nature sort 'em out....
Regarding not eating meat, heard a quote once attributed to an Alaskan trapper. Said the difference between what he would and would not eat was generally about 24 hrs....
Warren
:D :D :D :D
Kind of reminds of the time Babe winkelman was ticketed while filming a show by the DNR. I heard he had a diver hooking fish onto his line after he casted. I guess the ticket was for unpermitted release of fish in the lake. It seems they bought the fish elsewhere. :(
Then the great Fred Trost was ticketed for not buying state and federal duck stamps while goose hunting in Michigan. You would think he would have known better. ::)
As for shooting a gun at a rock to start a fire. That would be a good Darwin award winner there. :D
Farmerdoug
Johnny Mack Brown, and those guys, used to do stuff like that in the cowboy movies. :-\
Doug, are you saying that a person needs a duck stamp to hunt geese in Michigan? Do you need a goose stamp to hunt ducks? :-\
Bob
We discussed, once upon a time, the need to keep ducks around to stamp out forest fires, but I didn't know there was a charge for the service. ???
Is there a difference in price of a duck stamping as opposed to a good goose stamping?
Quote from: thecfarm on September 13, 2007, 08:20:23 PM
The rate that this is going someone will be saying roller derby is fake too. I cannot remember the last time I sat down and watched TV.I get my fix of the outside world by newspaper.I wonder at times the things that are wrote in there too.
i just get my info from the good old forstry forum. theres never any B S
here is there? ;D
I have never seen that show to comment about it. I only get rabbit ear TV here. And there are only about 5 programs I will watch if I remember when they are on. I watch videos of movies and old shows sometimes, but I like 'Gold Trails and Ghost Towns'. It's produced by a TV station in the Okanogan in BC. Talks about just that and about real people and places. A lot of folks from back east here and even the eastern US went out there, made big profits , then lost some or all of it in a span of a very few years. One interesting place was the Slocan, where it had the highest concentration of silver ore in the world. It's not the biggest volume of silver ever, but the concentration in the rocks was the richest. Little stuff like that interests me more than watching someone on video making believe his life is in danger. I appreciate everyone's interest in those survivor or big brother type shows, but it makes my skin crawl. I know Survivorman is a little different, but the same theme. ;) I don't even understand the fascination of CBS with all those grisly cop shows. What ever happened to Star Trek, Grizley Adams, and Carol Burnette? ::)
Quote from: SwampDonkey on October 21, 2007, 06:10:19 PMI don't even understand the fascination of CBS with all those grisly cop shows.
I don't get the CBS deal up there either. Unfortunately at camp we get 4 stations. PBS, CBS and 2 Canadian channels. One of them is french, the other is pretty good most of the time.
What I don't get about CBS up there is CSI is on EVERY Night! >:(
Don't care for that show at all. We watch PBS or read.
I find that french channel pretty good . ;)
Quote from: isawlogs on October 21, 2007, 10:31:12 PM
I find that french channel pretty good . ;)
Yup, It is better than CSI. ;)
We don't get that show here, how sad...
Sounds like a good episode might be to drop him off at K-Mart and see if he survives. THAT would be something!
asy :D
I caught a brief bit of Survivorman last night. He finds a gas can -rectangular like the ones lantern fuel comes in. He decides he's going to make a little stove out of it. So he has it on his leg, he sticks the knife into the can and presses the blade downward (towards his thigh) in order to slice through the can! I'm thinking "you moron". That's the fastest way to end up with a knife wound in your upper leg which could be a real gusher. Definitely NOT a good thing in a 'survival situation".
I like Man vs. Wild much better. That fella at least was Special Forces and has some talent.
LOGDOG
LOGDOG
They are all actors, following the directions given by the director and script. ;D
Where is McGiver when he is needed . :)
He was the best wasn't he? :)
LOGDOG
Sorry LogDog not sure how much talent he really has, click on the link:
Quote from: metalspinner on September 13, 2007, 05:20:36 PM
The other survivor man type show on Discovery Channel (with the British host) mysteriously hasn't been on the air since the host was outted as a fake. He would spend some nights of his "surviving" in five star resorts and such. On the deserted island show the raft he supposedly built on the island was actually flown in. The builder of the raft is the person that outted that show.
I found the article...
Link to the Article (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242007/news/nationalnews/grylls_thrills_bogus__expert_nationalnews_don_kaplan.htm)
The Survivorman Host is a Canadian. He made mention once of his dislike of killing animals.
I think the biggest part missing from these shows is the psycological awarness that you may actually die because you really are lost. If these guy's really get into troule I am sure their producers are just a radio call away. ::)
Discovery Channel started airing the Man Versus Wild show again. There is a very quick disclaimer now at the front of the show about "using local experts when needed." :D Literally less than 2 seconds. ::)
Sighhhh .... what can I say? Where's the spontaneity anymore? I have to say the "man vs. wild" show threw me the other night. For one, he's not alone - camera crew is there. That's a huge advantage in itself. Second, he's trying to spear salmon in Alaska right? He's not having any luck but he says one of the crew had better luck so he ate that salmon. If he were alone he'd have zilch. Then - strictly
for shock value he bites into the back of the salmon repeatedly as if he's a bear. Skin and all. I like salmon as much as the next guy but as long as I've got a knife on my side I'm going to fillet that fish. But hey, that's just me. :)
LOGDOG
McGuyver was a lot of fun....I guess that I'd rather watch an action story, and KNOW that it's produced and fake, than to be lied to about the "reality" of surviving.
Yep Roxie , McGiver was a whole bunch of fun to watch . I likedit when he got his two quarters out and linked them to a 12 volt battery and welded some steel up ... yes sir . :D At least we knew what we was up against .
Last winter I did a short take for a TV reality thing . Tow people where to * survive * one day and one night out in the northern winter ..... Well those TV reality shows lost me after that one ... ::) ::) ::) dats about as close to bull ... well manure as ya can get .
The evening they where to spent the night we got them set up in there tent ... they helped ... while da camera was turnin . I got them a fire going with one match ... then put it out ;D ( well deys sapose ta be survivin' ) Once it was dark I was about to pull out when they questioned my leaving and not staying ... " Well hell I got me a bed close to a fire box a waiting for me ... no way in hell am I stupid enough to stay out here if I have that to go to .. You all have a nice night now ya hear " ... Off I was to my cosy bed . :D :D
four of um stayed there ...not two like it was supose to be . I know that they never slepted a longer then a wink ... certainly not after hearing dem wolves calling to da moon ... ;D :D :D :D :D
Marcel, I can picture you tellin them po' folk, bout the warm bed and a faarbox. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Look on their faces must have been priceless ??? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
That's just fall-off-your-chair-laughing funny. :D :D :D :D
Like grandfather would tell of city folk coming from south of the border to live off the land in that 60's era. They were living off what they were growing, but it wasn't vegetables and deer meat. :D :D :D
Marcel, that's a great story! :D
Cowboy Bob once offered a unique suggestion for a reality survivor episode. We were watching "Man vs. Wild" and he reflected that most folks he knew could easily survive most "wild" situations. BUT, wouldn't it be a great idea to take a genuine country folk and drop em down in the middle of New York City and see how long they last? CB said, "Just give em two dollars and tell em you'll be back in six days". That thought genuinely frightened me. :o
Rox, that's far tooooo scary to think about :-/
asy :D