The new type "SAFETY" gas can.

[barbender]

I haven't used the Husky dual can a lot, but I like it. You stick the spout in the tank, press the can down to activate the plunger in the spout. The level comes up and turns off automatically. To me, that's a great feature, as I almost always overfill my fuel and oil tanks and spill all over😬 They flow plenty fast, too- even the bar oil, which kind of surprised me.

[Happysawer]

If i were a betting man i would bet that more people are badly injured maybe even killed, by these new type "safe type"gas cans then by their own chainsaws.

They might be spill proof if knocked over, but in trying to use their safety unlocking  systems when trying to fill a fuel tank this is where the problems start happening.

[Real1shepherd]

If the dual cans just had conventional angled spouts with screw caps tethered to them, that would be perfect for me. But the thrupple had other ideas.......

Kevin

[Tom King]

Those plastic vents will leak after a while.  I bought some to replace them off Amazon that look like regular bolt in tire valves.  You put one of the nuts on the inside (rides a wire into place), and it has a washer that keeps it from leaking.

Remembering this thread, I thought to take a couple of pictures yesterday.  This is my favorite one gallon gas can.  I'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.  I liked it so much that I bought spares, when I could get them.  I try to keep it out of the Sunlight.

The five gallon jug has one of the tire valve type vents I was talking about.  It also has a spout sold by someone on ebay.  I'll take any bet about spilling less gas than the newer types with it too.  You leave the rubber fuel line in the filler neck of whatever you're filling, and just lower the jug when it's full.

I have two brands of those 5 gallon jugs.  I like the Midwest the best, because you reuse the washer in the filler cap that came with the jug, and the Midwest washer secures itself around the machined aluminum part by the maker/ebay seller.

No fuel can police around here.

 

[Real1shepherd]

Those plastic vents will leak after a while.  I bought some to replace them off Amazon that look like regular bolt in tire valves.  You put one of the nuts on the inside (rides a wire into place), and it has a washer that keeps it from leaking.

Remembering this thread, I thought to take a couple of pictures yesterday.  This is my favorite one gallon gas can.  I'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.  I liked it so much that I bought spares, when I could get them.  I try to keep it out of the Sunlight.

The five gallon jug has one of the tire valve type vents I was talking about.  It also has a spout sold by someone on ebay.  I'll take any bet about spilling less gas than the newer types with it too.  You leave the rubber fuel line in the filler neck of whatever you're filling, and just lower the jug when it's full.

I have two brands of those 5 gallon jugs.  I like the Midwest the best, because you reuse the washer in the filler cap that came with the jug, and the Midwest washer secures itself around the machined aluminum part by the maker/ebay seller.

No fuel can police around here.

 

Tom,
Is this what you bought?
https://www.amazon.com/EONLION-Stainless-Steel-Faster-Proof/dp/B08F5CRYN9/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=gas+tank+vent&qid=1602360357&sr=8-7

Kevin

[lxskllr]

'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.

I'd totally take that bet. I can tip the NO-SPILL 160°, stick the spout into whatever I'm filling, then push the button allowing everything from a trickle to a deluge. Let off the button, and it's back to being a sealed container.

These are the vents I got...

Amazon.com: JSP Manufacturing Pick a Pack Yellow Fuel Gas Can Vent Cap Chilton Briggs Rotopax Gott Anchor Multipack Pricing (10): Garden & Outdoor

Certainly not a lifetime piece, but they're cheap, and I have a bunch of spares. I can pry the old one out, and stick in a new one. No leaks so far.

[Tom King]

Those plastic vents will leak after a while.  I bought some to replace them off Amazon that look like regular bolt in tire valves.  You put one of the nuts on the inside (rides a wire into place), and it has a washer that keeps it from leaking.

Remembering this thread, I thought to take a couple of pictures yesterday.  This is my favorite one gallon gas can.  I'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.  I liked it so much that I bought spares, when I could get them.  I try to keep it out of the Sunlight.

The five gallon jug has one of the tire valve type vents I was talking about.  It also has a spout sold by someone on ebay.  I'll take any bet about spilling less gas than the newer types with it too.  You leave the rubber fuel line in the filler neck of whatever you're filling, and just lower the jug when it's full.

I have two brands of those 5 gallon jugs.  I like the Midwest the best, because you reuse the washer in the filler cap that came with the jug, and the Midwest washer secures itself around the machined aluminum part by the maker/ebay seller.

No fuel can police around here.

 

Tom,
Is this what you bought?
https://www.amazon.com/EONLION-Stainless-Steel-Faster-Proof/dp/B08F5CRYN9/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=gas+tank+vent&qid=1602360357&sr=8-7

Kevin

Yes, that's it.  After it came, I recognized them as being like "bolt in" tire air valves.  

[Tom King]

'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.

I'd totally take that bet. I can tip the NO-SPILL 160°, stick the spout into whatever I'm filling, then push the button allowing everything from a trickle to a deluge. Let off the button, and it's back to being a sealed container.

These are the vents I got...

Amazon.com: JSP Manufacturing Pick a Pack Yellow Fuel Gas Can Vent Cap Chilton Briggs Rotopax Gott Anchor Multipack Pricing (10): Garden & Outdoor

Certainly not a lifetime piece, but they're cheap, and I have a bunch of spares. I can pry the old one out, and stick in a new one. No leaks so far.

Those yellow flapper vents were the kind I used to use, but after some number of years, they all started leaking around where they snap into the jug, and replacing them with new ones didn't stop the leaking. Those spouts from the ebay seller come with black ones, but they didn't last as long as the yellow ones.  I have a lot of spares too, but they won't ever get used unless someone else wants them.
For my diesel jugs, I put two vents in each, since I have to hold those higher than my gas jugs, for what they're used on, but I didn't put just one in one to see if there was any difference.  The fuel does flow out fast though.  Interestingly, those yellow vents have not started leaking on my diesel jugs, but all the gas jugs developed leaks around them.
With the flexible spouts, that don't require a button to be pushed, I can use both hands to hold the 5 gallon jug.  I don't say that they're better than anything else, but I like them best, and can fill anything without spilling a drop.


Here's an old picture when they had the yellow vents in them.  They've all been changed now.

[MNBobcat]

For filling something like a tractor from a 5 gallon can the clear ticket is a jiggle siphon.  I unscrew the spout off of the gas can and put it aside.  I then sit the can higher up on the hood.  Insert the jiggle siphon and give it a few shakes and then I walk away while the fuel siphons into the tractor. I use that siphon for the skid steer, too.  Its slick as heck!

For the small 1 or 2 gallon gas cans, I use the old style cans without that nasty CARB compliant fill spout.  I hate them.  If you hit garage sales you can find the old style cans with the good spouts.  Otherwise, you can get them out of Canada too.

[barbender]

Yep, those jiggle siphons are handy👍

[zinc oxide]

 'Three hands and an engineering degree of some sort'... My first impression of the new 'safety' spouts. Designed by committee and implemented by the "if it saves just one _____,  this law will have been worth it" crowd. Unbelievably dangerous.  Not sure which is worse, the pressure buildup or the vacuum collapse.

Cheesy little stub that is supposed to be depressed by the neck of whatever you are filling. The gas that gets trapped in the neck? When you see the can wobbling like a Weeble, and you hastily work the spout to relieve the pressure before it splits at the seams... That's when you find out about needing to release the 'safety' spout that you had to operate by hand anyhow, before you take it out of tank you are filling.

I found  the EZ-Pour® at my local Rural King. Money well spent. I think the instructions said to use a paddle/spade bit, but I used a Unibit, or step drill I think they're called. Never could make a decent hole in thin stuff with a standard twist drill. Figured I could control the Step drill better. Except for the first one, . Had an air hose in the jug to blowout any shavings. I soon learned that it was better to put a wire tie on the valve of the blowout tool to control the airflow. My foot chose that moment to twitch, and I went one step too deep flinching from flying plastic spirals.Some kind of Permatex® product has been holding for two years on the slightly oversized hole.  Couldn't tell you what the actual hole size was, just that it snapped in and seated 'perfectly'. I do worry about the longevity, although I typically spray everything rubber these days with the 'dry' silicone spray that leaves no oily residue for some reason that I must have read about at one point or another. Not to denigrate the style that does leave an oily residue, it is also 'perfect' for many applications in my opinion too. If/when these vents do degrade...

...Thank you for pointing out the Schrader/bulkhead style fittings available from Amazon, I will try to obtain them locally if possible...



 

 With the 'big' spout, I can fill both tanks on the lawnmower in record time. I generally just use the 'little' spout to fill smaller cans. I did buy two of the plunger button style cans at the same place for a specific use...  teetering on top of the something, very handy, work well.

As you can see, I still have the one small one that I use for Chainsaws and weedeaters. it has been modified, so the cap Is needed. Finally Drilled a hole and put a string on the cap,  Like I did for the brush on my bar oil jug, tired of hunting for it. The Sun was often in a different spot than where I had anticipated It being when I was done, when I placed the jug in the shade to begin with. Been cutting the same  weeds for some time, the equipment must be wearing out and not performing like it use to. Getting harder to find a 5 gallon cans with the side handle also, at least locally.

I have never bought anything from eBay, but the rubber hose looking ones may just force my hand, thank you also.

For a while, I did siphon diesel into the tractor, bent an 'S' style hook on a harbor freight bender out of some 1/8" x 1" flat bar, fairly sharp and crisp bends which surprised me. 'Sleeved' with heat shrink tube I had laying around. Didn't wobble  when I hung the 5 gallon jug on the ROPS.

An 'old man' (I was 17 or 18 at the time) showed me how to insert whatever hose was available into the tank being siphoned from. He explained that if it was a long neck and you were unsure if you were deep enough, you could just blow gently through the hose until you heard bubbles, then go a little deeper.

At that point, you just use a rag or whatever to make an 'airtight' seal, and blow. It depends how big the tank is and how much fuel is in it as to how hard you have to blow. You then just quickly put the hose into the container you are siphoning to, and... voila! It doesn't take a very big puff for most containers. I don't believe I have tasted gas since then... Yet I can still taste it as I type, .

The price that is charged for foam 'mice' or 'pigs' used to suck/blow measuring/pull tape/jet line in conduit is ridiculous, so I always made my own. it's fairly easy to roll up a plug out of refrigeration insulation around your siphon pipe which gives you the same airtight effect.  I found out the hard way not to use electrical tape, the self tightening 'creep' eventually crimps off the tubing/makes it hard to move for various depths. You could use contact adhesives if you are AR, but wire ties work just as well. Most tanks are small enough that just cupping your hand as tightly as possible is sufficient.

 

 

[thecfarm]

I sell those ez pour spouts at the hardware store I work at. Don't seem to sell too many of them.

[Tom King]

zinc oxide,   I'm not sure if we can post ebay links here, but to find the seller/maker of those spouts, search for the seller    webwings   there.   If you can't find the seller, try putting  "gas can spout, 4 gallons a minute, extra heavy duty" in the search box.   If you can't find them, PM me, and I'll send you a link.

[Real1shepherd]

I sell those ez pour spouts at the hardware store I work at. Don't seem to sell too many of them.

They sell like crazy here....always restocking that rack. Next, I'm gonna buy the 5gal Jerry can converter.

I also bought those Schrader type vent things I linked to from Amazon. You get three, the fish wire and a drill bit. I put one on the 5gal can I pictured with the extended spout. Works a treat, no leaks.

I hate plastic gas cans in general, but if they work and don't leak I can't really make a case against them.

Kevin