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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2021, 04:02:32 PM »
There is a 15 thousand dollar Yellow Birch burl up on the road from m129 to Kinross. We know, because @Burlkraft  and I stopped a few days after the tree was cut down and the land owner told us so after Steve offered him $500.  That was 2007. I see it's still laying out there by the driveway as of a month or so ago.
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2021, 04:41:43 PM »
Ill be the price has dropped!
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2021, 04:44:19 PM »
So Ive got this thing all buttered up with Anchorseal and sawing has been scheduled for a few weeks from now. 





 

 

Im going to remeasure and run the numbers through the weight calculator. Get your weight guess on the record!
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2021, 04:49:10 PM »
As a bowl turner myself, nothing gets us as hot and bothered as big burls  :D :)

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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2021, 05:04:04 PM »
Do The Price is Right rules apply? Never mind, Im still guessing 1 pound.

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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2021, 05:15:37 PM »
Well, if you are going to make us wait longer, you could at least give us an average diameter and length. I have no idea how long that is. I tried printing the photo and weighing that, but it didn't help.
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2021, 05:22:52 PM »
I had to go 'round and 'round to come up with a number.

First, the FF log calculator does not have Mulberry as a selection. So I GTS the specific gravity of Red Mulberry and came up with several different numbers.
So then I dug out my Identifying Wood by Bruce Hoadley to see what he had to say. According to Bruce, the SG of Red Mulberry is .66 - which is the same as Honey Locust in his book.

The FF calculator does have Honey Locust. So that's the log species I plugged in. The log is 6' long and 40" on the small end and 60ish" on the big end. But the burl seems more fat around the middle so I upped the center log size to 52" just to be safe.

Whew! The guestimated weight is 5398lbs.  It didn't feel that heavy on the trailer, but it sure looked the part driving through town.
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2021, 05:35:11 PM »
Wife's age + our number of children X the years married = 4582
What??  :o   Dat DanG woman been lying to me about her age all of these years!!!   ::)
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2021, 05:54:05 PM »
I had to go 'round and 'round to come up with a number.

First, the FF log calculator does not have Mulberry as a selection. So I GTS the specific gravity of Red Mulberry and came up with several different numbers.
So then I dug out my Identifying Wood by Bruce Hoadley to see what he had to say. According to Bruce, the SG of Red Mulberry is .66 - which is the same as Honey Locust in his book.

The FF calculator does have Honey Locust. So that's the log species I plugged in. The log is 6' long and 40" on the small end and 60ish" on the big end. But the burl seems more fat around the middle so I upped the center log size to 52" just to be safe.

Whew! The guestimated weight is 5398lbs.  It didn't feel that heavy on the trailer, but it sure looked the part driving through town.
I used five feet length, since you said the peavy was a 60 incher, which is 5 feet, standing by the burl. Least I wasn't measuring air. :D That woulda got me 4742 lb if 6 feet. For green weight I looked at yellow birch (staminate flowers birch like) and magnolia, both around 58 lb/cuft (green).

Mid diameter (50"/12"per foot)squared x 3.14/4 x 6 ft x 58 lb/cuft= 4742 lb
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2021, 06:14:35 PM »
Heres a sneak peek at what is inside. This is the little bit that someone sawed away on the standing log. 



 
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2021, 06:17:02 PM »
Gee Swamp, you did all that reckoning and all I did was look at it and think of a number in my head. ;D :D Actually my guess was closer than I would have thought.
 Mighty nice piece of wood, that's for sure.
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2021, 08:53:18 PM »
I used 8 feet in my estimate.  If I had used 6 feet, my estimate would have been 5727 pounds. 

The piece of oak burl that you sent me was so very fine.  Remember?

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=15981.msg456952#msg456952

Dodgy Loner made me a mallet from some of that oak burl.  The dark end is ebony. 



 

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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2021, 02:57:24 AM »
Gee Swamp, you did all that reckoning and all I did was look at it and think of a number in my head. ;D :D Actually my guess was closer than I would have thought.
 Mighty nice piece of wood, that's for sure.
It's actually quite basic math, just punch the right numbers in. Volume x lb/cuft. What are the right number?  :D
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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2021, 03:11:59 AM »
Nice noggin knocker..erm......mallet. :)
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2021, 03:19:57 AM »
Some nice burl there, reminds me of cherry burl and even yellow birch.



About 20 miles from here. This was a huge and very old yellow birch, besides the huge burl.
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2021, 07:03:28 AM »
It's actually quite basic math, just punch the right numbers in. Volume x lb/cuft. What are the right number?  :D
Reply #26 above Swamp. 5398#. I didn't check to see who was closest, anybody know? It just shows how hard it can be to judge something like that, even with experience. No doubt and actual weight would reveal something different because it is not a straight grain log and the density will likely be different. Got a quarry scale around somewhere? Just throw it back on the trailer ands find out for sure. :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2021, 07:48:37 AM »
WDH, I do remember that. I bought my first chainsaw to cut that burl. Interestingly, that oak burl grew in the yard of a man that has a stump grinding business.  
Believe it or not, I still have a bunch of that burl here stacked in the shed. 

Old Greenhorn, Ill go ahead and get it weighed this morning. You just sit right here and wait for me to get back. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2021, 07:54:08 AM »
Swamp donkey,
Ive not seen birch burl on the market. Is it common? Ill need to look it up 
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Re: Mulberry Mega Burl
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2021, 08:33:16 AM »
Old Greenhorn, Ill go ahead and get it weighed this morning. You just sit right here and wait for me to get back.
OK then.  popcorn_smiley  smile_banjoman
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« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2021, 10:37:43 AM »
Swamp donkey,
I’ve not seen birch burl on the market. Is it common? I’ll need to look it up
Only as common as you can find them to sell them. ;D

Lots of turners here have used yellow birch burl over the years.

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