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Title: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 04, 2018, 09:05:29 AM
I poked a hole in one or the hydraulic lines on my Sundown/Ingland log grapple this week.
Did it busting down a mixed pile the tree company dropped.
Went to Napa to get a new one made.
Picked up yesterday  $100 for a 3ft hose and 2 fitting.
I almost fell over when they told me the price.
Does that sound right?
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: pineywoods on August 04, 2018, 09:18:10 AM
Hydraulic hose is a high markup item. Most places charge by the inch. I get most of mine from surpluscenter.com. Still expensive but less than custom made.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Corley5 on August 04, 2018, 09:58:09 AM
The hose and fittings are the cheap part it's the hose machine time that costs so much.
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Post by: 47sawdust on August 04, 2018, 10:42:34 AM
I feel the same way when I leave my local hyd.shop,but when you are in a jam you don't have much choice.SS seems to be the best deal around but only if you are planning ahead.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Ljohnsaw on August 04, 2018, 11:21:11 AM
Yeah, they have you over a barrel.  A few years ago I had to have a 5/8" or 3/4" x 6' hose redone and NAPA charged me $90 while I waited about 10 minutes for them to make it.  I spent $1,000 on 17 hoses for my Davis Little Monster but that was cash and at a hydraulic shop.  These were all 1/2" and anywhere from 12" to 24" with the exception of 4 for the outriggers - those were 1/4" x 6" long.

Hydraulic repair is a good business.  My two rams for my SkyTrak cost me $600 for new seals!
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Southside on August 04, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
4 wire or 2 wire? How big of a diameter? Swivel or other special ends? None are cheap. Easy to spend $30 on just a fitting. 
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: mike_belben on August 04, 2018, 11:43:11 AM
Price a crimper, a dozen dies, spools of 2 and 4 wire in every size, and about 500 fittings plus bins to keep em in, reel rack, the chopsaw to cut em and an employee who has the brains to distinguish a JIC 37 vs JIC 45 vs a kobelco vs metric flat face etc etc.. then get back to me on that hundred dollar hose being expensive.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: kenfrommaine on August 04, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
Check out tractor supply they have pre made lengths of hose and sell the different fittings.  These are good quality and very reasonable. 
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: stihltoomany on August 04, 2018, 12:00:45 PM
Here in the Midwest that would be totally ridiculous but not knowing what kind of hose and what kind of fittings I should not pass judgement seems very high to me but I go to a hydraulic hose supplier for my hoses
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Larry on August 04, 2018, 12:13:04 PM
Most Tractor Supply hoses have IP fittings.

A couple of months ago I went to Ozark Fluid Power and had them make a 30" hose for my tractor FEL.  They use good Parker hose and fittings.  It was in the $30-$40 range and took 10 minutes.  The fittings were a bit uncommon but the hose was common.

If they get too pricey it opens the door for others....crimpers, dies, and supplies can be sometimes found at auction for penny's on the dollar.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 04, 2018, 01:32:06 PM
It was 3/8 hose 2 wire i think
They called them tractor fittings
I had to reuse 2 rubber/metal washers from the old hose
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: barbender on August 04, 2018, 01:43:12 PM
That's not uncommon pricing. I had to replace a 6', 5/8" hose on my Case 1845, it was around $100. I have a dozer blade attachment that I blew a hose on. 3/8"x6', I bought a premade hose with pipe thread ends and fittings for around $40 at the lical farm supply store. If I dealt with more I'd probably buy some bulk hose and reusable fittings.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Southside on August 04, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
I would expect that to cos me around $50 - $60 given what you added.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 04, 2018, 07:24:18 PM
    Sounds high to me. I get my hoses from the local JD equipment company and I'd have thought a hose as described would be under $35 around here.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: bandmiller2 on August 04, 2018, 08:08:25 PM
In my younger days I did excavating, kept a 50' roll of hose in my truck and a box of Aeroquip reusable fittings. It took me no time to make up a hose but those were simpler times. An unmentionable company here sells made up hoses reasonable, keep a couple of spares. You can use a longer hose as a stop gap until you get the right one. Frank C.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: beav on August 04, 2018, 08:48:03 PM
Napa in Newport? They have been expensive in my experience. Try Bond Auto ( now O'Reilly's) next time
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: PAmizerman on August 04, 2018, 10:25:08 PM
Sounds expensive. I just replaced a 12' hose on my mill $90
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 04, 2018, 11:14:01 PM
Yes Napa in Newport 
Couldn't get anyone to wait on me at orielys 
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: YellowHammer on August 04, 2018, 11:53:45 PM
I'm replacing two lift hoses for my Cat forklift.

I called and got an estimated price at the local Cat dealer, $110 each, built at the dealership.  

Same thing built at a local hydraulic hose company, $40 each.  

Shop around.....
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Southside on August 05, 2018, 08:25:59 AM
Reading @YellowHammer (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488)  reply I suddenly had visions of the Cat guy trying to convince him, in his best Dan Ackryoid / Blues Brothers voice that their hose will be better as it will have "Cat rubber, Cat lettering, Cat smell, Cat receipt".... ;D
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: moodnacreek on August 05, 2018, 10:24:13 AM
For the common pipe thread and jic flare ; Surplus center as mentioned but I still use a lot of the old reuseable  fittings that everyone threw away.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Stuart Caruk on August 05, 2018, 05:02:23 PM
I use NAPA for hose and hydraulic fitting ONLY when it's the weekend and I need to get a machine running. Fittings cost about 4 times what the local hydraulics wholesale supply sells them for, and completed hoses are about 2 two 3 times. We have several good hydraulics shops in town. One primarily sells fittings and they are the cheapest in town. The other sells mostly custom fabricated hoses and since that's their specialty, they are the cheapest. I prefer to get my hose made by them because they pull a plug through the hoses to make sure there is no debris left in them, and they put a heat shrink covering on the ends to keep them from getting contaminated during installation. All for the best price in town.

We have 2 NAPAs close to me. One services the farm stuff primarily and the other is more for auto parts. Same name, completely different prices, attitudes, and abilities. They are competitively priced at what they do best. But hoses... not so much.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: Rhodemont on August 06, 2018, 11:03:58 AM
Had to replace a hose on my JD backhoe.  Was quite surprised that the proper part number hose at JD dealer was about half the price of Napa and the hydraulic shop.  Glad I was not in a hurry and was going by JD anyway! 
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: bandmiller2 on August 06, 2018, 08:14:28 PM
John Deere's pricing for parts is hard to figure. I've got a bunch of old ones and some big parts are reasonable wile some simple little thing they take a tuck on you. Seems they get your confidence up and then nail you. Frank C.
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: jtmccallum on August 08, 2018, 09:48:35 PM
Had a 3ft. 3/8 hose with jic fittings made up this at local Case/IH dealer this week.   38.00  We also have a hydraulic shop nearby that is reasonable as well. 
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: crowhill on August 10, 2018, 08:23:39 PM
I read this post couple days ago and thought it had been so long since I had to buy a hydraulic hose I had no idea what my cost had been. Well I found out this morning working the Kubota! Blew three hoses on the loader digging out a six inch black birch stump. 3 lines each less than 30" long, 4 straight fittings @ $13 ea. and two elbows @ $25 ea, hose was $44 and then tax. Came to $154.76 total. A local garage, dropped their wrenches and built my 3/8" @ 4800psi lines. 
Title: Re: Hydraulic hose
Post by: mike_belben on August 10, 2018, 10:18:17 PM
Blew a pressure washer hose right at a rub spot a foot from the current fitting.  Chopped it off, went into my bins, found the right end and fired up the trusty old aeroquip.  

Back in business.