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Title: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 10, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
Today I went with "Truman The Miller" to look at this mill he put me onto. it has been sitting for a number of years since the previous owner passed. I met with his wife who was a wonderful lady and headed out behind the shed. It seems a bit rough in places and I think the motor is stuck. Not knowing anymore I was willing to make an offer taking all the risk into account. she quickly said yes and said she would be 

 (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33654/IMG_1724.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1484102543) happy to have it gone. I gave her the money and now am planning how get it home. 

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Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 10, 2017, 09:51:15 PM
 

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Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Darrel on January 10, 2017, 10:43:32 PM
Looks exciting to me. This restoration will be fun to watch!
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: hacknchop on January 11, 2017, 12:18:19 AM
If you need help let me know ,I have many yes experience and would love to help.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: 47sawdust on January 11, 2017, 06:34:01 AM
"FearlessYukon"
Good to have a project.Take plenty of pictures before you take it apart.The camera has a better memory than my brain.Good luck to ya.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: goose63 on January 11, 2017, 06:48:06 AM
Yukon it's to bad I'm so far away I have a 48 Ft flat bed you could use to get the mill home with ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 11, 2017, 07:38:37 AM
I believe it will fit on my trailer. lift up one end and back under it then use a winch to pull it on the rest of the way. it must wait until after our rain and ice storm we are getting Friday unless I can get my orders filled and my wife lets me out early for good behavior  ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: bandmiller2 on January 11, 2017, 08:05:06 AM
Very good find my friend. I would get a small angle grinder and some cup wire brushes and a lot of time. I'am not a fan of sand blasting as you always drive grit into every crevasse and joint. After brushing use that rust killing coating with phosphoric acid, prime and rustoleum. It will be interesting to compare it to your band mill, let us know. Frank C.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: sealark37 on January 11, 2017, 08:50:02 AM
What a fine project!  Please keep us informed on your progress.  Regards, Clark
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 28, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
it is home. we took the sides off of my  trailer and winched it up the ramps. it only hangs over the end of the trailer 13 feet  :o 

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I got a two manuals with it. It was number #79 built in 1974. more to come...
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Darrel on January 28, 2017, 07:58:27 PM
Now that's exciting!
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: barbender on January 28, 2017, 08:49:16 PM
Nice Dodge, too! ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Chop Shop on January 29, 2017, 03:25:17 AM
Nice!   Looks long?  24 feet?
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: ozarkgem on January 29, 2017, 06:50:54 AM
Your trailer lights work as good as mine. I will have to buzz over and check out the progress.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 07:21:51 AM
Quote from: ozarkgem on January 29, 2017, 06:50:54 AM
Your trailer lights work as good as mine. I will have to buzz over and check out the progress.
I just noticed they don't seem to be working. I just put new led lights on it yesterday and they were on when I left with the mill.....typical  :D come on over and check it out.

It is 24 feet long. I don't even know where I am going to put this thing.

Today I will remove the spark plugs and get oil in the cylinders to get the motor unstuck. Oh yeah, I also need to get something more than just my hands on the pulley to see if it really is stuck or if I am just too weak to turn it by hand.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: DanG on January 29, 2017, 08:15:16 AM
If the belts are on it you should be able to turn the engine easily with the blade.  ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 08:48:10 AM
The first plug I pulled had wet rust on it....ouch. The other 3 look fine. I also noticed a cracked hole in the (what I believe to be) governor. It probably wont be running today but not a loss at all.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Kbeitz on January 29, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
You might want to pull the head. Turning the engine
over with a rusted cly. wont be good on the rings.
Some people say dumping water down the rusted hole
will loosen it up. I never wanted to try that one.
I like PB Blaster my self. I have used a grease gun to
move a rusted piston. Wish I was there to help.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Darrel on January 29, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
VW engine that can't be turned by hand is stuck.  On the bright side, they are very easy to o work on and back in the day when I was a Volkswagen driver, they were inexpensive too. Hope they still are.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 10:58:19 AM
I have been looking up parts. 4 new cylinders with pistons,rings and a few other things $140 including shipping. 2 new heads $300 with shipping. If I went all the way through the motor I might have $600 or less. I have a $500 budget. Time to sell more firewood  :D
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Darrel on January 29, 2017, 11:15:35 AM
Not a terrible price by today's standards, but quite a bit more than back in the 80's when I could pull an engine in the morning, rebuild it and drive tha car the same afternoon. 
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
UNSTUCK!!! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Ljohnsaw on January 29, 2017, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: yukon cornelius on January 28, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
It only hangs over the end of the trailer 13 feet ...

Oh, so it is a portable mill ;) :D

Nice find and will be fun to watch.
Quote from: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
UNSTUCK!!! 8) 8) 8)

Whooot Whoot! 8)
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 04:52:15 PM
I have no compression on 3 cylinders and 90 ish on 1. I popped the valve covers off expecting stuck valves but instead I am thinking maybe lifters??? I can open the valves with a small prybar and the close back. The rocker arms are not rocketing. Maybe the rockers are froze up. Either way it won't run today and needs parts to fix it. Maybe a complete overhaul is in order.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Darrel on January 29, 2017, 05:06:08 PM
My guess is that you can tear it down, clean it up and put it back together and it will run great. Same amount of work as a rebuild but costs way less.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: Brad_bb on January 29, 2017, 05:28:09 PM
So it's a circle mill?  I don't see the blade? did you get one with it?  What diameter?
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: yukon cornelius on January 29, 2017, 07:24:24 PM
Brad, it is a circle mill.  30" blade with two 12" edger blades. The head unit travels above the log on a track. It can make two boards per pass.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: plantman on March 18, 2017, 01:20:29 PM
You've got yourself the grand daddy of portable mills there. Pick yourself up some Rooto professional drain opener which is pure phosphoric acid to remove the rust prior to painting.
I paid about $13 for a quart but it can be diluted quite a bit. Otherwise look for Rust Mort in a autobody supply.
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http://www.mobilemfg.com/contact-portable-saws.html
Watch the video !
http://www.mobilemfg.com/portable-saw-videos.html
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: rndrob on July 16, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Is there more to this story? I'm looking at an older 127 right now. Pretty sure the motor is running but everything looked a bit rough. They guy said the motor is one of the first ones out there and is pull start. He's been working on a way to add a starter. I have a couple pictures but not sure how to attach them.
Title: Re: Mobile Dimensions 127 "Restore to Glory"
Post by: dgdrls on July 16, 2020, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: rndrob on July 16, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Is there more to this story? I'm looking at an older 127 right now. Pretty sure the motor is running but everything looked a bit rough. They guy said the motor is one of the first ones out there and is pull start. He's been working on a way to add a starter. I have a couple pictures but not sure how to attach them.
Hey rndrob,
pretty easy to post photos
 Link:  https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=100194.0  

Look forward to seeing your pictures,

D