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Started by doublecut, August 17, 2004, 09:32:11 PM

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leweee

Welcome  aboard Arthur. On most threads I feel invisable here. ;D Glad to see I got your attention! .I'll bet your tweeken that website as we speak.A demo tape or video clip of that mill in action stating it's advantages will go a long ways in promoting your product. Trust me! As they say down under G'day!  
  :)leweee
just another beaver with a chainsaw &  it's never so bad that it couldn't get worse.

Captain

I agree, Hokie.  The Lucas is faster for adjusting to taper.  I do find, however with the quality of my logs, I put the bad face up (usually) and take out the taper in the bad face.  Then just keep cutting down to the good face.

I'm gonna need some pics of the projects you and your dad are up to, ya know.

Captain

Jeff

QuoteGotta love all you good folks south of the equator.........but there is no need to start dueling , eh? 8)

There is plenty of room for ALL of us including large mill owners, small mills swing mills non swingers....you get the idea , we are all here to enjoy what we have in common right?
I want to hear more from all of you ......any Tassie's out there to fill the bill?? ;) :D

Buzz, thanks, you saved me from the struggle to find the right words.

Like Buzz says, and I'll add, The Forestry Forum has no borders and no Bias. It's members enjoy good conversation in a tension free atmosphere. Just a word to let ya'll know that nothing has changed and nothing will change. :)
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Fla._Deadheader

  Hot DanG. Another Swinger in Moultrie.  8) 8)
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Arthur

Hokiemill

dont mean to trash compeditors machines its just we have made more money this year blueprinting Lucas Mills that wont work properly than promoting our own.  Now that our prototyping is complete I have no time to do this so have passed the knowledge on to a local engineer.

If a miller has already spent his money on another machine best to get him working as good as he can.

If your using wax Id be using the hard candle type wax as the soft beeswax just either rips out or melts. at least you can get the nuts out.

let us know how you go with it. works on the EcoSaw.


Arthur

Captain

If you want to see just how fast tappered logs and double cuts(backcuts) can be done come down to the Sun Belt AgriTrade Expo, Georgia,USA 19 to 21 October.  

I have been invited to do demos on the EcoSaw product range and would be happy for any of you to become intimate with our mills.  

Once intimate it grows under your skin and eventually like me you become totally hooked by it.

I dont need to mill but each of our mills are tested for correct allignment and working before shipment and I always look forward to starting the first cut.

Hammy

G'day TN_Man,

Just thought you might be interested to know Petersons will in your neck of the woods, holding a Demo Day in Tennessee on Saturday 16th October. The location is in Fairview, TN which is about 18m from Nashville. Not sure how far this is from you but we would sure welcome you to come along for the day. If you would like more information drop me a line. It will be a great chance to see the mills up close, cut a few boards plus we will have special prices on the demo units.

I'm looking forward to some Dr Pepper.......(don't have it in NZ)
C. Hammond
Petersons

Fla._Deadheader

 G'day Arthur. Could you give a brief description of "Blueprinting " ???

  Oh yeah, welcome to the Forum.  :D :D
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Arthur

leweee

We have an old Lewisaw video which has been digitised.

I hope that I can get into town to upload to our website via a fast link.

Our national Telco is somewhat so in providing fast links to the country areas so as we get a 4K upload speed 20minutes of video takes some days to upload.  Be there as soon as we can.

send you a CD if you email me your details

Hammy

Hey Arther,

You gonna take that mill of yours to the next shoot out?
C. Hammond
Petersons

Arthur

QuoteG'day Arthur. Could you give a brief description of "Blueprinting " ???

  Oh yeah, welcome to the Forum.  :D :D

Fla._Deadheader

what we do is takeout the slack in the Lucas manufacturing.  without going to deep the drive line gets tightend, we replace the running gear with tighter adjustments, reengineer the boss and basically bring it up to the Peterson quality of engineering (as its basically just a plastic copy).

Still has its limitations but you can at least cut true boards.  You may however be lucky as some of the Lucas Mills need very little modification and some need lots.  Its the Quality control that does it.

Some companies like us test each mill before shipment.  Its the quality control and engineering that cost the extra money.

Arthur

QuoteHey Arther,

You gonna take that mill of yours to the next shoot out?

We are trying to get a challenge going to show just what the mills can do.  If you all want I will start a new Subject with the challenge and see what happens

Fla._Deadheader

  Thanks for the brief info, Arthur. Really appreciate it. It's always good to know what takes place with all these mills.
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Captain

Thanks for the invitation Arthur.  Believe me, I'll be there.  I've been planning on this one since January. (check SHOWS, EVENTS and PLACES TO MEET) Just may be dragging a couple of Kiwis along as well.  

Captain

TN_man

Thanks guys for the dates. I am interested in seeing both mills although Moultrie is a bit of a drive for me. I would have to plan a vaction for that one ::). Keep up the competetion because it makes for a better saw in the long run. Jeff
WM LT-20 solar-kiln Case 885 4x4 w/ front end loader  80 acre farm  little time or money

Arthur

QuoteHey Arther,

You gonna take that mill of yours to the next shoot out?

They will need logs like this just to start the interest for me




sawmillsi

Hi Arthur,

Simon Ceglinski from Mullumbimby Woodworks here (Australian Agent) - you know, the big fella (I was going to put hairy, but your more hairy than me :D) from Mullum. We spoke at Austimber and again at Primex.

I'm glad that you have finally got your new Stainless Steel model up and running (at Austimber you didn't have it ready - only an older model and at primex all you had were the new rails).

Its good to see this subject getting such good response - can only be good for us swing millers generally!

About the patents, I was doing some digging and couldn't help noticing that David Lewis applied for his patent way back on the 19th of May 1988. Thats a long time to be making mills, but when you use the phrase "The Lewisaw patent was registered 4 days before the peterson one." I have to disagree.

Carl Peterson applied for 2 patents on the 22 December 1987.

BUT, thats not the point. These Peterson patents are no longer applicable as we have moved onto bigger and better things and are happy abou that.

I personally think that all sawmills are good in some way or another. I just think that Petersons are better than most (I'm a bit biased though).

If you want, email me personally and I can clarify any issues you have (send to simon_ceglinski@mullum.com.au).

Happy milling all!

Si

PS. Arthur, I wrote that tender you talked about, and we did not claim that we met the requirements of AS1473-1:2000 - Wood Processing Machinery – Safety. Primary Timber Milling Machinery and the Occupational Health and Safety (Commonwealth Employee) Act No 30 of 1991 (Sections 18 and 19). We claimed to have exceeded it and were able to provide substantial documentary evidence to back this up with.

jaytee

Hey Everyone,
Just wanted to post a few pictures of the EcoSaw cutting a 42-inch pecan log for those of you that might be interested. I sell planers but get to enjoy the sawmills from time to time.


This picture is of a pecan tree that was blown down during Katrina. Because of the size it was destined for the firewood pile until Mr. Lee called us. We carried the EcoSaw to his place and were able to mill the log into 494 bf. of beautiful 1x6 and 1x8  lumber.



The log was so heavy Mr. Lee had just managed to push it away from the stump with his tractor. We tried to roll it over but had no success so we milled it where it lay. For those of you not familiar with pecan, it is related to hickory and has the same weight and hardness rating.





The log was lower at the butt end because of a knot holding the other end up. This was easy to overcome with the EcoSaw, even with the rails running downhill the saw head was no problem to push back the other way.



Making the 8-inch cut coming back.


   The log had beautiful grain because of the knots.


   Some of the 6-inch boards we cut.


   Half way through the log. After cutting 1x8's across the log our only regret was that we did not have the slabbing unit. At this point we could have cut a full 37 inches wide the length of the log. It would have made a great table.


   A great stack of lumber that almost went up in smoke.



Jeff

Horible way to welcome you to the forum  jaytee, by removing your photos, but I sent you a personal message on it so you know what it up.  We have some rules in place on posting photos. We sure want to see them once you can get them in the Forestry Forum gallery.

Link to photo instructions
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=12416.0

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Commercial circle sawmill sawyer in a past life for 25yrs.
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Furby

Welcome jaytee!
I got to see the pics before they were removed, and sure hope you take the time to upload them as I KNOW lots of folks would like to see those pics! NICE lumber! 8)


jaytee

I got the pictures uploaded. Sorry about that.

Johnny

Furby

 smiley_thumbsup
What is the planned use for the lumber?
It sure would have made a real NICE table slab!

jaytee

Mr. Lee is giving it to his daughter and I'm not sure what she will do with it.
I hope he puts a lot of weight on it after he stacks it.  I would hate for the boards to dry all warped.

Johnny

chet

Great bunch of pics Jaytee, and welcome to da Forestry Forum.
I am a true TREE HUGGER, if I didnt I would fall out!  chet the RETIRED arborist

Ianab

Welcome Jaytee and thanks for taking the time with the pics.

Thats sort of log is what swingblades do best eh  ;D

Cheers

Ian
Weekend warrior, Peterson JP test pilot, Dolmar 7900 and Stihl MS310 saws and  the usual collection of power tools :)

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