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I was checking out a new farm we are thinking of buying, pretty wild place - I even saw the footprints of a Puma there.  :o

Anyway, I was walking along and Hector pointed out this young fellar. He is an Imperial Boa.

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He is about 2 meters long, just a youngster I am told. I got within 2 feet of him to take this picture (no zoom)

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Beautiful snake, did not care at all I was close to him.

He wuz probbly hopin' ya'd come jest a leeeetle bit closer. ;D :D :D

He would have just put a little squeeze on me....

I was just told that he was probably between 2.5 to 3 meters long, still not that big, but very thick around.

I can't wait till Jeff checks out this posting.  :D

I ain't scared of any thing,,, 'cept SNAKES!
If I had taken that picture it would have been very blurry and the log woulda looked like a twig!
MH

For some reason, snakes don't bother me at all - I just find them interesting. Probably something wrong with me.

Of course as boas aren't poisonous, there isn't much to worry about, unless they get really big.

Snakes ??????  Thats a cutie  ;D ;D :D  Show 'em a Bushmaster, Fred.  ::) ::)

No Problem

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Jeff - you are in TROUBLE - that is a protected snake...



(just kidding)

Not here it aint.  8)

Now Jeff, I am just trying to help.  ;) They say that repeated exposure is supposed to help you get over your phobia.  :D

Surely others have nice snake pictures....

Beautiful critter, which would have been the thought after it had departed this world.  I agree with Jeff, I have no problems with snakes I cannot see,but one that surprises me is buzzard food.

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Nope not me.  Ain't not a snake in the world that I want to be that close too.  I know there's good snakes, and bad snakes.  I like for all of em to keep their distance.  If I see one 'over yonder;, I'm ok and if it ain't close to my house and ain't a cotton mouth or a copperhead, I'll leave it alone. Them poisonous kind to me it's safer to go ahead and put outta their misery before they decide to come 'over here'.  Cause if I see on 'over here' and 'close', my heart starts not acting right.

Thanks a lot Fred.
I ALMOST had my wife convinced to go to Costa Rica. Now she'll be back to talking someplace clean, safe and mainstream touristy. Like Disney World. It's all your fault. I hope you have guilt.

Saw a Mississauga Rattler once when I was a kid in Canada.  Climbing a rock face, poked my head over the top and there he was, don't know who was more scared.

There are NO SNAKES in New Zealand except with two legs and government salaries

No guilt - I probably saved your eardrums.  :D

There are a lot of snakes here - but stay out of the bush and you will almost certainly see none - even if you visit us.

By the way - Florida has snakes....

Costa Rica IS main stream tourism now.

Ya don't think DISNEY has SNAKES ??????  Orlando Airport is crawlin with them. BIG rattlers. I'll look up some back info.

  If ya wanna re-schedule Costa Rica, Fred and I will verify Snake-free zones, for the Mrs.   ;) ;) ;D ;D :D :D

Heck, we will walk the fields with you and keep the snakes away - a good choppero will do wonders.

I like Jeff's answer better.  8)  :D :D

Now thats just shows me there an't to many on here that would go to a good rattle snake round up :P.
good eating and fun too everyone ofs ya should try it. ;D

Even though I think; no I KNOW you're nuts, I couldn't help laughing! :D :D :D

I was once in a class for learning sign language and one of the more advanced students went to a rattlesnake roundup in Texas.  :o

I guess is technique was not that good, and he got bit on the hand. They treated him but for a while he still had a problem.  :-\

You see, for a few weeks, he had a speech impediment....  ;D

I am with tnlogger....GOOD EATIN! Smells pretty bad cookin, but rattler is good eatin.

I like snakes.

Doc

I can only stand to look at this thread every couple days.

I'm with you, Jeff. Ever see someone cross a field of long grass without touching the ground ???  ;D
Seen it . Done it.               ;D

 smiley_sombrero That is the plan!

Imagine what we could get away with.  ::)


From another time, I took this picture:

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This was one sneaking up behind Amy, on a foot bridge. I wanted till she was across before telling her.

:D

Oh, we did go ahead and buy the place - working through the paperwork now. All I have to do now is keep Harolds saw off some of the big trees - there is a Guancaste tree on it that is very big, you don't see a lot of them anymore.

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The diameter is more than 4' if I am correct.

Jeff, I guess I will have to rethink your gift. ::)

  Been bitten 3 times and I am still here but they all died. (2 rattlers, 1 copper)  Mowed the yard last weekend and killed just one snake. (water moc)  Get about 5 or 6 a year out of the chicken house and about as many out of the pond in front of the house.  We have had them in the house before.   When I mow the whole yard I often get one or two and most are copper heads.  Life in the country. 
  When I was in the Jungle I worried about them "step and a half" snakes.  Glad we do not have them here.  A bag of ice and car keys will get you through here, but with them "step and a halfs" you would never get to the truck.
  Rattlers do not always rattle before they strike and a cotton mouth will come after you.

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Many years ago when I was about 14 I was visiting relatives in Missouri when my cousin asked if I would like to spend the week bailing hay and make some money.  :) Sure enough I said.

Well, the next day we are heading out to fields and I see my cousin strap on a pistol.  :o Didn't exactly know what to think. I had lived in NY since I was 7 so I figured perhaps there was some hay rustlers we had to worry about.  :D

The day went on and I wasn't paying any real attention when all of a sudden I heard a shot! Boy, I was ready to hide behind the nearest bail of hay!

I looked over to see what it was, it was my cousin shooting at a bail of hay. It seems that when you are bailing hay in Missouri, occassionally you will pickup a snake - rattler or cooperhead. They tend to be pretty mad too after being half bailed into the hay.  :o

So far in Costa Rica I have only seen one poisonous snake - and that was in the road. If you are careful here, you don't normally have any problem.

However, the fer-de-lance is consider one of the most dangerous snakes in the world. And the Bushmaster is a really mean snake - and very large. Imagine a pit viper 3+ meters long.

Thats one reason why I never liked hauling hay. You never knew when something would be looking back at ya.  :o

Luckily it only happened to me once.

When I was on vacaton in Southeast Asia we had the  two step vipers.  They must of been a weaker verson of Arky's step and a half snakes. ;) The snakes liked to crawl up real close at nights to keep warm. Since I was real thin and didn't give off much heat I never had a problem. Some of the bigger guys would wake with a snake under the poncho with them. :o  No one in my unit ever got bit. I suppose the snakes knew that a dead person wouldn't be very warm to sleep with.  ;D

Interesting how snakes are described in different cultures. Here they are described by how far away you are supposed to stay from them.

For example: Fer-de-lance (terciopelo - velvet) - 3 step snake. Stay at least 3 steps away at all times. It is aggressive, but usually will leave you alone if you leave it alone.

Bushmaster - 3 Kilometer snake (this one is called Ox Killer - matabuey) - Mean snake, will come after you with no provocation and it is big - imagine a viper more than 11' long!  It is the largest pit viper in the world and also bears its young alive. 3 - Klicks means, you see it, you start moving away, quickly!

By the way, the young fer-de-lance are considered much more dangerous than the older ones - they say the venom is more potent and they are a lot faster.

Fred's cure for poisonous snakes - Chopperos - these are they guys with machetes who chop the grass. They work with a stick in one hand (to hold the grass) and a machete in the other - usually the long machetes (almost a meter). Those machetes are really sharp and not many snakes get a chance with them.

One thing about the fer-de-lance, if you see one, don't let down your guard - there is usually another one nearby. The big ones tend to go in pairs for some reason.

When i got sick we rented an old house down by the river that had been closed up for a couple of yrs. well Pat is like jeff when it come to them crawling reptiles. when she sees one she is gone and i do mean gone :D in fact if you tried ta shoot her when she sees one that there bullet an't got a chance way too slow.
well we got moved in and Pat was making supper i as outside talking to my son and all we saw was a flash and a scream. we thought she done hurt herself. well i'll tell ya when she got her voice back she done let inta both of us and said she wer'nt living in no house that had snacks in it. Now me being a little on the slow side was confused so she said go look in the oven. wal paul and i went in and in the draw were ya put the pots was a nest of about 6 little copperheads about 3or4 inchs long but no mama snake.
well now paul dont like um himself ans wanted to shoot um right in the DanG stove but i talked him outa it and dispatched um with a set of them big BBQ forks. Before pat would go back in the house we had to show her them little bitty snakes.  :D The whole time we lived there i had to check the stove every time she cooks. ;D ;D

 :D :D :D :D :D
Good story, Gene :D
I would be having you check the whole house for 'snacks' every hour ;D
:D :D :D

 
  Almost done did it, today  :o :o ::) ::)

  We was out Log huntin, with the Guvner of Palatka. Remember him, Greg??

  Anyways, we had a couple logs stashed in the Bonnets and we pulled on one for about a hour, before breakin it loose. Found a BIG hole in the side and bout a 10# Catfish came swimmin outta the hole.  :o ;D 

  We put the log in a patch of Bonnets, and headed off to pull on another.

  Had to chunk off about 10' of that one, both ends was bad.  ::)

  Decided to head over to the stash and load the boat.  Got to the stash and Ed bails off the deck to hook a chain around log #1. I went to the back of the boat and dropped one end of the chain down along side the log, and then laid out over the log to reach around and grab the chain, so I could hook it to the beam, securing the log.

  Next log went equally as well, until I had to lean over the END of said log. Bout the time I grabbed the chain, this 3½' Cotton mouth crawled outta the end of the log, not 8 " from my face.  :o :o :o :o  He was under water, but, not by much.  Has this puzzled look on his face, and I left him RAT THERE. :o :o  I'm not afraid of them guys, but, that was a susprise.  :o :o   ;D ;D

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Interesting how snakes are described in different cultures. Here they are described by how far away you are supposed to stay from them.

The two step viper is called that because if you are bitten you are dead buy the time you take two steps. :o

Spent the last two weeks moving a lot of old dead cedars off pasture land in central Oklahoma.  Kept waiting for a rattlesnake to come out of hiding, but only had one non-poisonous snake show up. See a few copperheads here in So In, but snakes usually head for other country when they feel the tractor vibrations going over the ground.

If we could think of anything bad to say about da Boss, he might never see it this far down this snake thread.

Yeah, I think I should send his gift anyway.

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TR if ya do wait till after the pig roast  :D he just might leave the country  ;D

I had a interesting evening.  My mom and dad had told me about this 'giant' snake that was hiding out in their chicken house.  Ok, I 'told' em, it was just a chicken snake and probably wouldn't bite em.  (I didn't mind doing this since it was 'THEIR' chicken house and not mine) . :)  Of course I knew that argument wasn't going to work.  My dad had attacked it a couple of times with a hoe but he said it was too fast for him.  And my mom told me she was afraid it would cause her to have a heart attack. 

SO, today, this evening to be exact, I get recruited to go 'SNAKE HUNTING' , allmost against my will.

I was told it was last seen in one of the old horse stalls.  I went in well armed.  I had a hoe, a bush blade, a shotgun, and a chainsaw.  I was determined to outfox that snake.  Actually I wouldn't have minded having some grenades or dynamite in my arsenal but that kind of stuff is just plain unavailable.

I entered the stall, with my backup close behind me.  (My wife, my mom, and my dad)

A quick look around, NO SIGN OF A SNAKE!  I told em I bet it was gone.  Didn't work.

MY dad said he bet it was behind that there wall and handed me a chainsaw.  I cut a few of the lower boards so I could see, and.............NO SNAKE!

I TOLD EM, I bet it's gone.  Heck, I bet it heard me crank that chainsaw and left eh country.

Didn't work.  My dad pointed at another wall and he said he bet it was behind 'that' wall.

I cut out a board.  I went to move it, and that's when I got the heck scared out of me.  THERE IT WAS, AND IT WAS ON THE MOVE.

I YELLED for the gun.  The dang wife handed me the bush blade.  I handed it back and DEMANDED THE GUN.  I ain't taking no knife to a snake fight when there's a gun available, nope, not me.

It was moving fast, but I managed to just about cut it in two with that four ten.

As it move around it showed it's head, and I made the killing shot. 

Now, most of it is still tangled up inside that wall.  I told my dad, it was ok, the snake was dead.  NOPE he told me, I want that snake, dead or alive, OUT OF MY BARN.  I FINALLY wormed it out of there and carried it and disposed of it.

IT was a chicken snake alright, almost 6 foot long, and FAT.  I reckon it won't be eating any more eggs in that barn and that's a fact.

I sure do hope it doesn't have a mate.  I've had enough snake hunting for a while.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D

CK... You must have looked like Rambo going in there!!!

Glad ya go it!

So just exactly what kind of snake is a "chicken snake" ?  We don't have a whole lot of different kinds of snakes in NY, especially ones that you have to fear. Most of our snakes are pretty small compared to the one you are describing. A 3 or 4 footer would be a pretty big one.

QuoteSo just exactly what kind of snake is a "chicken snake" ?

 

They're MEAN ones and that's a fact.  Well fed ones eat eggs, rats, mice, and small chickens. I haven't really heard of em eating any humans or children lately but when you run up on one unexpectedly it's just real hard to convince yourself that that ain't possible.  The worst thing is, at first glance, especially when your heart is beating fast and your brain ain't working right they sorta remind you of a copperhead.

Some people actually LIKE haveing em in their barn.  They've got a better heart that I do and that's a fact.

The one I got yesterday looked almost exactly like this.

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CK,

That is a cute little feller.  They only get 6 feet long? Boas are commonly known around here to get bigger than 12 feet - and very thick in the middle.  Imagine if you had seen on of those!

The one at the start of the thread a swear was trying to decide if I was too big to eat....

Fred.. He may be cute in the picture but they look a lot better far away!!  :)

Well ck, now I know what a chicken snake is. I thought maybe these chicken snakes were like snow snakes. They do look kind of nasty looking even though your link says they are harmless. Can't say I would want one slithering around the house at night. Geez, snakes,bugs, hurricanes, heat. Now I know why I am still a Yankee.

If we get another hurricane this year I'll become a yankee real fast!!!  :D :D

Teri,

You know they are predicting a worse hurricane year than normal - again?  :-\

I know   :(

This time I'm not staying!

I can see it now, you will come down and visit your dad, and then YOU won't be leaving, either....  ;)

I don't think so!

Teri, last time I BEGGED Fla. to load everybody up and come and stay here for awhile.  You hear of another big storm coming don't pay him any attention and just load up and head this way.  We got plenty of room, live on high ground, and got a extra strong built house.,  and you'd be more than welcome.

Thanks CK. I just might take ya up on that offer. The storms wasn't  bad it was the loss of power and the heat.

Okay all, just got back from Finca Leola Monte Cristo - the new place and had a really interesting chat with a neighbor and our peon (don't get riled up, this is what they call themselves, just means a living on the place worker)

Anyway, I asked them about the boa that you saw at the beginning of this thread. The said, yes, it is a small one - they told me we have a larger one on the finca.  My heart nearly stopped when they told me how big - you see, to me, a 8 foot long snake is big. Nope, for a Boa, it is small.

They said there is a boa on the property more than 6 meters long! (about 20 feet long) About 18 inches thick, or more.  They know it is there because they saw it eating something once - and my jaw dropped when they said what it was.

Now first, before I tell you, let me explain that these critters it was eating are smaller down here, but they aren't THAT small - it was eating a deer!  :o

I can't wait to get a picture.... Jeff will have fits. ;D

Crtreedude,
I wouldn't worry too much about Jeff when you post the picture of that big Boa. I figure he will already be dead of a heart attack after getting TR's gift.  That picture of his really gave me the hebee jebees.
VA-Sawyer

All's I can say is I'm glad we ain't got no 20 foot snakes around here.  Cause if my dad told me he had a snake that big in his chicken house or barn, I'd BURN the dang thing clear down to the ground!!

guys, if Jeff is that serious about snakes, opening a box with the hide of a six foot rattler aint gonna help his dispostion.

I don't think I could afford to ship a twenty foot boa...

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I don't think I could afford to ship a twenty foot boa...

How about if you shipped it in 5 foot chunks?  :o  :D

My 16 year old nephew works with us some, and like lots of kids that age, isn't always as aware of his surroundings as he should be.  The other day I saw a big black snake (chicken snake) crossing the drive where I was working.  I sent Ken up the drive to get a tractor I didn't need. He walked right past and didn't even see the big feller.  When he got about 30' past him, I called out and told Ken maybe we needed the pickup instead, bringing him past the snake again.  When he got about 3 feet from the snake I called out "Stop!"  He did, with a puzzled look on his face.  "Now look around you!"  He looked around, finally saw the snake at his feet, and did the cutest little two-step dance! 8) :D :D :D  Ken mentioned something about an evil old man.  I informed him I was not old. ;)

O.K., my monthly snake thread check and now I know who to watch and who to add to my list. >:(

;) :)

Shoot Jeff,

I was thinking of changing my avatar to a closeup of the boa's head.  :D

Thank way I figured you won't look to closely at my postings....

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CK  Did the demon from the barn look like this little 63 inch chicken snake?  Went to the barn last night to put the birds up and they were all in the yard.  Past dark so I knew something was up.  Went in and checked around but saw nothing.  Went out to drive the birds in and none would go but the rooster.  I go in with him and he is flying above the roost and then to the floor.  Making alot of dust.  On the third trip up I see this little darling hanging from the rafters about a foot above my head.   I knocked it down with a sticker and the rooster gives it a good spurring.  Got to love them Rhode Island Reds.

  Teri you can always come back to the hills when the stroms blow in.  It was Hugo who ran me out of SC and back to these hills.

Arky, I reckon that is what we called a black snake up in Missouri.  May have told this story before, but, my uncle and aunt raised chickens for a spell, then got out of the business, but the old houses were left.  Long, low and narrow, they became a home for rats and mice.  I was visiting one day, and my uncle invited me into the barn for one reason or the other.  we stopped.  He said look up.  I did, and there was a black snake that was stretched out for a good 6 feet or better, on a rafter.  We had a talk where I described my uncles lack of breeding.  And then left the barn.  Seems like he left them there undisturbed to keep the houses relatively free of vermin.  There was a pair, and they reared younguns.  You would have thought by my aunt and uncles raves that the younguns was human.

When my parents used to take us to Missouri to visit relatives for vacation, I would sometimes catch snakes. Bull snakes and blacks snakes were pretty common. I actually put them in my suitcase to take home.

Mom never would open my suitcases when I returned from a trip.  :D

  Many, many springs ago one Saturday morning my Pa told me to mow the yard as he had to go to the job till lunch and then we would go fishing.  About the time I got done mowing I pushed the mower under a bush to get some grass and there was a pile of worms wiggling around in there so I picked them up and put them in the pocket of my jeans.  Pa did not come home till pert near supper time and we did not go fishing.  I had to bath since church was in the morning so I stripped down and got into the tub.  Ma came in to fetch my clothes and started screaming.  Pa could not understand what the deal was till he saw my jeans a laying in the floor.  These baby copper head snakes were crawing out of my pockets.  :o  To this day I can not understand how them night crawler worms turned into copper heads.  ???  Just one of them mysteries of life I reckon.

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I wont say a word nope not me no way no how  ;D

Why  pilots let the co-pilot do the pre-flight inspection.


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And why I have chopperos go ahead of me in the fields....

Sounds like some of you folks need a snake catchin' pooch.  ;D

My faithfull sidekick, who many have heard of, Deputy Dog comes from a long line of them, seriously.

The bloodline he comes out of in the UK, is also the place that provides dogs to the USDA who have been having an on-going battle to keep Guam snake free. So far they are winning the battle thanks to some very devoted helpers, a whole mess of JRT's (Jack Russel Terriers).

The program has in fact been so succesful that they are now using dogs, Beagles in this case, to track down Burmese Pythons in the everglades of Florida that people have released when they became to big to keep as pets. Beagles are one of the original 4 dogs cross bred to create a JRT.

Have a look.  http://www.ngnews.com/news/2005/02/0203_050203_everglades.html

I'll pack up Deputy Dog and his little sister and head striaght down there.  :D

Sounds like a plan!

We have a dog on the finca but recently he nearly got himself killed. We have a 3 month old filly and the mutt decided it would be fun to chase her.

Daddy ( my horse Toro) didn't think it was funny at all. Every see an angry stallion?  :o

I think the dog is still hiding...

Toro really isn't a stallion anymore - but he was 7+ years old when the change happened, so he really didn't change much - except he doesn't chase the mares now.

I'm in the shed this morning sticking walnut through the planer when Max, our doberman comes in on three legs.  Take a look at the bad leg and don't see nothing wrong with it...he has had tendon problems with the leg in the past.  Let Max in the house and he heads for a dark corner to lay down.  Back to the planer dressed in my normal summer attire of shorts and sandals (steel toed of course).  Tripped over something and looked down to find this uninvited visitor.  42" long with 10 rattles.  Think most of ya can figure out the species.

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Back to the house to check on Max...the swelling and pain has started.  Yep...snake bit.  By the time I get Max into the vet the leg is three times the normal size.  Vet puts him on steroids and rubs the leg down with DMSO....first time I've heard of that.  Anyhow Max gets to spend the night at the vets place.

Hope this is my last snake story for a good long time.

You always have to watchout for uninvited quest in the woodpile. This weekend this feller showed up. My wife Amy can look at snakes, no problem, but not these things.

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So I shot it.
I took a picture but I was so anxious to get it off my computer that I threw out the optimized and original files before I could put it in this post and I'm not going to go get another pic ...... YICK :o

Oh...... did you know that I really, really don't like snakes ???

I don't care if it was harmless or eats mice. It's definately harmless now.It was in my "garden" and coming towards me :o

Hopefully a coyote will eat it tonight. Or maybe a racoon....I don't care . I really hope it's gone when I get back from Michigan .

Do they make snake repellant I could spray out there ???

We saw a Rattler yesterday, near where Ed's buyin a place, near the camp we work at. It was about as big around as my arm, and guessin close to 6 feet long. Bet it had a dozen buttons.  :o ;D :)

  It was kinda grey in color, with black chevrons along it's length. Straddled it with the Dodge. Maybe Da Boss will visit ED someday, and ED can show it to him.  :o :o ;D :D :D :D

Reminder to all!!!!  Don't sneak up on the sprucebunny less'n you are ready to defend yourself.  ;D :D :D 8)

At least pack some protective gear  :) ;) ;)

 :D :D
It was not only sneaky , it was stupid ....... it waited for me to go in the house and get a gun  ::)

It was probably a good occaison for a shot gun but I didn't think of that ...... Got a 22 ......

Yep nothing worse than a sneaky stupid lazy snake.  ;D   

I say that about Iowa's senators pretty much everyday.  ::)

Yo' Boss-man.......

Do ya' need a vacation ta' unwind after the big Piggy Roast?

Manitoba tain't even that far from Michigan........

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:D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Naw huh?  ::)

Neat story Murf but going through the list of phobias, who could be afraid of chickens. :D :D

My neighbor!
I was talking to her and mentioned I had a few of them over at my parents.
In no uncertain words she told me to make DanG sure I didn't bring them over here!
I guess there was an incedent with a rather mean rooster when she was just a small girl, now all birds are bad. ::)

Hmmmmm, good point Ernie.  ::)


Hen-pecked husbands the world over ? .............  :D

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Our local TSC carries it. ;)

Shoot fire, Furby.  Fred would need enough to fill a Helio go flopter to cover his empire.  ::) ;D :D :D

My method is simpler - I use the same technique as those who apply zinc to metal.  ;D

You got to have something to sacrifice....

Furby

Isn't that napthylene the stuff that mothballs are made of, probably a lot cheaper way to get the active ingredient.

Hmmmmmm....I kinda hope Cowboy Bob doesn't read this thread, because he told me to tell Sprucebunny to use mothballs to keep snakes away.   :-[
Ut oh..... ::)

I am having a snake hunt today. My sons ball python is loose in the house somewhere.

Note to Self:   Do NOT go to Gary's until python is captured!  :o

Patty it is just a little one it is only about 3 feet long and friendly.

Garey, I don't care what you say, there is no such thing as a friendly python. Especially those that like to give folks "hugs".   :o

 :D :D :D :D :D gary my son just came in and saw this he said ( tell him i an't never killed one of them before he said he'll get his shotgun ride up there and help ya find it free of charge)

Sorry but we catch snakes by hand here.  I have been doing it like this since i was a kid . If I don't get it in a day or two  the wife might take him up on that offer. If she finds out it is loose she will be staying at a hotel.  The worst thing that ever happened with snakes was when I was about 12. I had caught a bunch of garter snakes and made a cage out of chicken wire.  I put the cage in an unheated sunporch for the winter. Come spring we had baby snakes everywhere. Pull out a chair at the kitchen table and there would be 5 or 6 baby snakes on it. The only reason my mother didn't shoot me was I was the only one who would catch them.

okay...unhuh.....yep

An update on the snake hunt It is still loose. We have looked everywhere for this one can't find it. It probebly won't come out on it's own for a week or so since it ate just before it got loose. We will wait for cold weather . Then try the heat lamp trick if all else fails. My wife will be the one to find it if anyone does. she hates it. I can see (HEAR) it now she will open a closet door reach up to the top shelf and grab a hold of it. Then the $#&* will hit the fan.

Personally I think your wife is an angel to even allow the stupid snake as a pet in the first place!  smiley_bat_morph

My advice is to kill the ugly snake and buy the kid a cute little puppy.  ;D

Patty we have a dog and a cat both are in the house. The kid is 20. First he came home with a trantula, his mother told him get that out of here, so out it went next was a chamlion it was fine till it would not stay in its cage. He was told DO NOT get a snake. He snuck it in the house when we were not home. Kept it hid for a couple of weeks. Then I heard GARY WHAT IS IN THIS CAGE!, of course i said I don't know your looking at it what is it. She said its a %$#@^& snake. Then she ran to the phone called the boy on his cell phone and let him have it. He was told in no uncertain terms what to do with that snake. He has been looking for a new home for it but can't find anyone who will take it.

"He has been looking for a new home for it but can't find anyone who will take it."



Gosh, imagine that.  ::)

:D :D

I'll ship it to you and I'll even pay the shipping if you want it

No problem Gary, just ship it on up here to Harrison, MI.  ;D

Me tinks da wimminses is gittin even sneakier than they was before ......   ::)

 :D :D :D :D :D

no.....we were always that sneaky and smart....you're just NOW catching on!   8)

"no.....we were always that sneaky and smart.."


Not to mention breath-takingly beautiful!  :-*

""Not to mention breath-takingly beautiful!""

See Norm, ----- Patty is listening to every word you say, and even believing what you say  :)

Include armed and dangerous too - look at that chainsaw! :o :D

My grand-pappy taught me that all wimminses are pretty ........

Some are pretty good lookin' ....

Some are pretty good cooks .......

Some are pretty good dancers ......

Some are pretty good house-keepers ........

Some take some lookin' before ya' find somethin' ta' call pretty.......  ::)

I'm for the "Not to mention breath-takingly beautiful!"  Part.

The older I get, the prettier they are.  I'll have to say that I find them all pretty.  Some might be prettier than others but all of them are measured by the same rule and that word "pretty" is it.

I never was one to cull too bad.  A little attention and I follow along like a sheep follows a goat. 

....... ???.....  Hmm....   that didn't sound right.      ........like a wagon behind a mule.    ??? ???

Well, that didn't sound right either.   Anyway,   I like those girls.  Young, Old, short, tall, skinny, ......robust,   HEh, heh.....    good cooks and snugglers have the upper hand, especially when they are on my side when I'm in deep doo doo. 

If there is one thing that life has taught me, it's that you gotta make those companionship type decisions on more than just looks.   I spent 20 years with a gal that I thought was the best looking, smartest, most attractive person I'd ever met.  That lasted about 6 months and the rest of the time was trying to make it work.

After a little hiatus I ran across a sweet gal that thought that I was the best looking, smartest, most attractive person she'd ever met and we haven't had a cross word in 19 years.  See, it makes a difference as to what you use for relativeness as much as what you use for a benchmark.  :P

Well, there I go again..    Got off of the subject, didn't I. :D

Well not really "off" the subject. You had me thinkin 'snake' there for a moment (20 years was your 'moment')  ;D :D :D

I'm comin up on 45 years of 'bliss' and thankin my lucky stars how lucky I have been.

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As long as we're on the subject of snakes........this poor fellow ate him a belly full of sompthin', couldn't get through the fence, got the shock of his life and decided bite back.                                                                          (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12431/snake%20in%20fence-2a20%25.JPG)
I guess he kinda' got hung up in all the hot excitment. ;D

is that a still shot or an action shot? ;)

I am glad that one is not lose in my house. But if it was I would not have as hard of a time finding it as I am finding the one that is lose in here. :)

I don't know if he's still alive or not. It seems like he may be in a slightly different position from the two frames. I think he's resting on the hot wire and bit into the ground wire................I would think that this is in Africa, south America or somewhere like that.

http://www.baxterbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050820/NEWS01/508200313&SearchID=73218376302299


If you can get to this site check out our copperheads.  Lucky they went to Chucks place as Gen. 3:15 would have been evolked here.

I had a scary encounter a couple days ago. We run into copperheads in spells where I live. I killed 6 within 50 feet of my house last summer. We have owned this land for 20 years and had not seen but 2 other copperheads in all that time. So far this year we have not seen any on our property (knock on wood). I was looking at some land with my boss on Wednesday. We were looking for property line markers.  I had been watching pretty close at where I was walking because snakes scare the tar out of me. Well, I wasn't watching so close for a minute, I felt a movement under my foot. I jumped back and saw that I had stepped on a copperhead. I didn't know whether to die or holler or what. Well the boss heard the racket and asked what was wrong. He suggested we call it a day. He is more scared of snakes than I am. After I calmed down, we continued looking for the property line. About an hour later I saw another copperhead about 6 or 8 feet in front of me. I used a stick and threw that one out of the path. It then moved to a more sunny spot.  Of course I read the link in the last post, and it was confirmed that they generally don't strike unless stepped on or being handled. I will never know why this one did not strike at me.

Boy, this topic is even starting to get to me, and I started it! I can't imagine what it is doing to poor Jeff.

I was watching on animal planet yesterday about searching for a giant anaconda. What a worthless show! He kept getting his facts wrong and was smarmy to boot. I would have liked to have seen him run across a giant snake - one less lame host of an animal show.

What I guess really bothered me (besides saying there was no cure for rabies) was that he kept acting like he was so intelligent, etc, etc, etc compared to the local people because he didn't want to kill the snake.

But he was out hunting for a very old snake. If a snake is really big, it means it is very old. If he would have captured it - the stress might well have killed it. I would have been cheering for the snake.

I had a visitor yesterday who said that when he was in Spain he was removed from a bull fight. He was cheering for the bull - it seems the Spaniards don't like that.  :D

Well the wife saw my sons snake today. Now I have to fix 6 holes in the floor where she missed it with her pistol. Oh well maybe she will hit  it next time.

Gary, I think you are lucky she wasn't using a 12 ga. shotgun. ;)

I told her to use a shotgun instead of the pistol . Then I would only  have to repair the floor one time and the snake would be DEAD. Now I have holes in the floor going for about 4 feet.and the snake is still lose. Now she has a 410 leaning in a corner and she said she won't miss next time.

Maybe you should be counting your blessings she was aiming at the snake and not you and your son!!   You'd have holes all over the walls instead of the floor.   :D

We caught the snake last night. Anyone want a pet snake.

you musta got it before moma did  :D :D :D

Yeah the stupid thing got back in its cage by itself. It must be hungry and wants fed. All I need now is patty's address so I can send it to it's new home. ha ha

Harrison, MI  ;D     

I sawed wood the other day for a missionary that just came back from Africa. He was in the medical field and treated the locals for a lot of  poisonous snake bites. Medicine and medical supplies were sometimes limited and many died. He told me that there are two types of snake bites. One is toxic poison, the other is neuro. (something to do with the nervous system.) If you get bit by the neuro type and they don't have the medication, there's nothing he can do and they are going to die. If they get bit by the toxic type and there is no medication, he said he neutralizes the poison by running a wire from the spark plug of a running vehicle and arching the skin on both sides of the fanged area. I have no reason to doubt what he is saying, but I have never, ever heard any such thing as this. According to him, our North American snakes, the Copperhead, rattlesnake and Moccason are the toxic type and the Coral is neuro. Has anyone heard of this? ::)

I know of the  poison types.  But, I never heard of electrocuting poison with a battery.

snakes have neurotoxic and hemotoxic poisons.....from what i remeber hearing on animal planet one night some snakes have a mix of both but i can't remeber which ones it was....but i ain't for sure on that.

Boy! People just can't get enough electro shock therapy. How many amps go through a spark plug? All it takes is a third of an amp to call it a life time.

Da da da DAA da DAAAAAAA
  Dr. Deadheader to the rescue.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


  This is from the Gold Prospecting info Center.  Nearly every Desert Gold Prospector (Serious), carries one of those Personal Shocking Zapper Thingys. Y'all know , the ones with 2 fangs, what shock bad guys when they want to mug you ???  The ones you stick a feller with and mash the button ???

   I have it on good authority, that many folks have been saved by being zapped several times, right on the bite or sting (Spiders or Scorpions or bees).

  Usually, it is some dude that wanders into trouble, not knowing what to do.  It works on folks that have reactions to many bee stings at one time, also.  Dr's will not admit that it works, though. ???

  We carry the 10,000 to 25,000 volt model. No need for the 50,000 Volt model.

  I would show y'all mine, but, it's packed away in one of them Costa Rica traveling boxes.

  Ok, start pokin.

  I KNOW this works, from being involved in the Forums for Prospecting.

Woodbowl,
  Your info is correct. The hemotoxins work on your blood and flesh, while the neuro's affect the nervous system. I can't think of a North America snake, other than the coral, that is of the latter varient. When I was young and dumb (now I'm not young :( ), I thought it was a great thing to catch snakes, mostly diamond backs, and play with them. I wasn't too worried about being bit, that's what doctor's and hospitals are for, right? Then one day I read an article in "Outdoor Life" magazine about snake bites and the consequences of them. I remember the pictures even now. Under the skin it looks just like a massive clot of congealed blood , really nasty looking. The pictures of the survivors of bad bits made the biggest impression on me  though. I remember one man that had almost no flesh on his lower leg, the calf was gone, a direct result of a rattlesnake bite. I retired from snake hunting that day!

Mark

I reported here on this thread that someone told us that we had a 20 foot boa on our second finca. Well, it is true. The worker who is currently living there didn't believe us (no, he wasn't eaten) until he found the trail.  :o

Imagine a trail through a pasture just made which was 10 inches wide. Crushed the grass, etc. I have seen a 2.5 meter one, and it was only 4 inches wide. So, 10 inches would mean it is probably pretty close to 6 meters - or 20 feet long.

We are talking a serious snake.

The worker didn't believe we had mountain liones in the area either - until he heard one scream one day.  :D He said he ran all the way home. (not the brightest idea)

That is one place where I would not go out at night.

Forgot something in the truck?

It can wait 'till morning!

The truth is the most dangerous animal on the finca isn't the big cats, or the big snake - it is the tapir. Those things get about 700 lbs and have a very bad disposition.

Most large cats won't mess with a tapir - they look like a small elephant with a short trunk. I have seen the foot print of one on the finca.

Someone brought a small dog to the finca once, it lasted about a day. Decided the jungle area looked neat - never came back.  City dog, the dogs of the campo know better.

ahh man snakes are cute,,,

Really?

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ok, i'm gonna faint now .... 

oh man, that is just disgusting....and here I am trying to eat lunch. smiley_ignore

A happy ending.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171358,00.html

My mum told me never use my finger  to pick my nose.  I guess his mum did too ;D ;D

I was marking my property lines today and was walking up a ridge and almost grabbed a timber rattler.  I reached for my trusty .41 mag and BOOM!!!!! right in the head.   Then I heard ZZZZZZZ, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH a bit to my right and there was another one under the leaves....BOOM!!!!! in the head. 

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Nice neighbours you keep there. They had me high steppin a few times when I was a kid. Garter snakes were fun to play with but rattlers uh uh, no way.

Our plumber let me borrow this picture.
This rattler was 8'7", 92 lbs, 17 buttons and a 6" wide head  :o.
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That there snake doesn't look near enough dead to suit me, if I was there. :o  I'm guessing a snake that size could inject an awful lot of venem in a bite.

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   Found this little darling two days ago on the new saw yard.  I stand a tad over 5' 10" so for a King snake it was a dandy.   Since they eat bad snakes and don't bother much and I do not have chickens around he did not get Gen 3:15 envolked on him.  Sure a dandy!

When I was a child in Missouri we had a sandbox (sort of) near a large tree - in the tree usually was a big King snake. Mom didn't let anyone remove it - figured it was keeping the bad snakes away.

I don't remember much from that time, but I do remember that!

That's a pretty good sized king snake there, King fish.  :D

 smiley_greg_walking_stilts

Practicing for July?  ???

  I also did not kill that snake because it would keep people like Jeff from peeking around in my wood piles.   TREAD LIGHTLY and LOOKS WHERE YOU A STEPPING.

I got no problem peaking in your wood pile. I'll just look for snakes first.

Heck, the little 6 foot Blue Racer i walked up on sunning hiself yesterday was nuttin' compared to some o' the snakes youse guys are talkin' about. He never flinched even though I nearly stepped on him. Wish I woulda had the camera, but I was just out for a cruise in the woods with the State Forester... Gonna have to get in the habit of taking it. Found a pecies of tree that stumped him... I may have to go get a pic to see ifin you experts have an idea.

I grew up in Morgan city, LA.  That is about as south as you can get withoput stepping into the Gulf of Mexico.  My friends ans I would go camping for the weekend.  I was about 12 or so.  While walking through the woods  we would often here snakes slithering away through the leaves.  We didn't think much of it at the time.  But one day Dad was with us and just about come out of his shoes when he saw what was doing the slithering.  Cottonmouths.  Every single one of them.

Another time , we were in a pirogue (a very shallow canoe sort of thing. ) I was about the same age.  We were hunting for red-eared sliders. Those cute little green turtles that sun themselves on logs in the water.  Well we were sneaking up on a couple of them when a huge cottonmouth fell into the boat from a tree branch we were floating under. we beat the heck out of it with our paddles and some how managed not to flip the boat.

I don't know how I survived my childhood.

While out looking at a timber stand this past weekend, my buddy and I came across a Mohave Green Rattler - reportedly one of the most deadly rattlers according to my guide friend.
It wasn't a big one, but nasty enough all the same!
Dropped a fat rock on his head, split him wide open in several places, and my bud dug him out and skinned him up!

Went out to the mill the other morning, pulled the tarp covering the mill off, there we were, eye to eye at about 12". I ran one way he
went in back and around the muffler.
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DanG thing didn't want to leave on his own, so I fired up the motor and then he took off. Sad note, poor thing passed on right after he cleared the mill.

That would make me give up sawing.

Ah, aint he a cute little fella?  Just big enough for bait out to the lake.  Big ol catfish take him in.

I saw a really pretty snake on the finca yesterday. Really amazing, didn't have a big head, so it wasn't a bit viper - no fangs.

It looked a little like a Coral Snake - but it wasn't, it was a Scarlet Kingsnake

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herpetology/fl-guide/Lampropeltistelapsoides.htm

If Red touches Yellow it could kill a fellow
If Red touches Black it's a friend of Jack

That's a little ditty that is good to remember. 
Lots of harmless  snakes are killed for lack
of identification.

In certain situations, I would too.  But, it
is a good feeling to know one is harmless
and let him go on his way.

I have a much simpler one.

If snake flees - it is friend of me.
If snake attacks - it is dead Jack!

I think Jeff can agree with this one!  ;D

I don't mind snakes, are any vermin for that matter, shoot, I got a brother in law I could do without, but I digress, but if they slip up and suprise me, I will determine their species in an after action report.

Quote from: crtreedude on May 09, 2006, 12:01:44 PM
I have a much simpler one.

If snake flees - it is friend of me.
If snake attacks - it is dead Jack!

I think Jeff can agree with this one!  ;D

Just dont mistake Jeff for Jack. Since I have a younger sister named Jill, I used to get called Jack quite often. :-\

I don't mind if I see one off out from me aways, when they sneak up real close before I see 'em, well, it gets my heart rate up a mite. Now and again on my paying job, we'll find what's left of a "well done" snake up a power pole (or at the base of the pole and lights out). It's always a terminal or angle pole with a down guy. I haven't seen one climbing, but the things have to be going up the guy wire.
Worse scare I had was on a side job while re-bulbing a VFW little league ballpark one day. Working out of a bucket and had one light that would not come on after changing the bulb. Figure it has to be a connection. So I drop down and swing the bucket over so that the edge is just under a junction box, un-screwed and pop off the lid. (you see where this is going?) This junction box had knock outs missing, a bird nest and a snake in it. DanG thing dropped right in the bucket with me. Some times you can run, other times you just have to stand and fight. Ain't much place to run 40' off the ground so things got a little hectic.

I'm starting not to like this thread. Its like having one flat tire, you know there are more to follow-

http://www.ericsiegmund.com/fireant/archivesmt/002806.html

We found a cute little feller yesterday.

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Can you identify this snake? It is better if you don't play with it...

Y'er durn tootin' I know what that is.

Yep, me too, never actually seen one in the wild though, and hope I never do!  :D What is it, "Red touches Yellow, your a dead man fellow" ?

Stew

Red and yeller kill a feller.

OK I'm thinking on stayin home again...

We will protect you Jeff - honest. Besides - that was a cute little feller. Not even aggressive.

I will admit, this is the second one I have seen down here. This time I had the camera ready!

By the way, I showed the picture to Amy and she shuddered, so you have company. I wanted him for a collection of snakes... I haven't started one yet - but I am thinking about it!

That's ok Jeff, I'll gladly take your place! ;D

Well it finally happened, I saw my first snake yesterday. I typically wait all Spring for this inevitable day. As soon as I see one, from now until the first heavy frost I spend my time looking all over the place expecting these slithering serpents of the devil to be lurking about.

Maine is unique in that it is the only state that does not have poisionous snakes, but to me every snake is deadly because each one gives me a heart attack. The one yesterday was about a foot long, coiled up on a rock sunnying itself. I quickly proceeded to drop a rock on the serpent, but the rock did not land flat and the thing slithered off into the weeds to live another day...darn it!

So rather than give chase like a brave warrior and pelt it with more rocks, I beat a hasty retreat towards the house, screaming like a girl and breaking an Adirondack Chair as I tried in vain to gain elevation, a sure fired way to escape the slithering beasts.

So here is my dilemia. I have to clean up the broken chair, but with the snake lurking about I really don't dare to. Does anyone on here know a good snake poison that will draw out and kill this menace? I asked for some at the hardware store but they laughed and said snake poison does not exist. I'm thinking whoever invents some, is going to be a very, very rich person.

walk over and pick it up, and throw it like a frisbee. ;D....Jake was right about you :D squat to pee :D

Think you need to check your facts.
Maine is not unique, it shares the lack of native poisonous snakes with Alaska and Hawaii.;)

I hate snakes, more then you would ever know, but I'd rather have a few of them around then all the DanG things they eat.

Leave em alone.  They cannot hurt you, you can probably hurt yourself picking up a rock worse than the snake can possible do.  You should be more afraid of Bigfoot, I hear he is active in Maine. ;D

They say this little guy eats snakes - and he is poisonous.

does that qualify?  ;D

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Yep, leave them alone. They won't hurt you. Even poisonous snakes are good to have around for pest control. I've been bitten a few times and I'm still here. I was bitten because of my own stupidity, not paying attention to where I was walking and stepped a little too close. Even so I can't count the times I've stepped over cotton mouths, rattlers and copperheads and they didn't even budge or acknowledge my presence. That thing has a hard time biteing people CR, unless he gets you in a spot he can chew and twist a little.

You are right about that - they also are very timid.  There are aggressive snakes here - like the fer-de-lance and bushmaster, those you don't want to get too close to. Very bad attitude.

I've sawed a few corals in half. They like to stay in hollows in logs. I hear them there fe-da-lance's are mean.

Deadwood, the best poison I know of is LEAD!!!!

Stew

Yes, they are - but the bushmaster is worse. Thankfully, bushmasters are in swamps where I don't go without backup (like workers with machetes, etc.)

One thing about fer-de-lance that you have to watch out for - if you kill a big one, look around really quick for it's partner. I kid you not.

They travel in pairs usually.

This post kinda got me tickled thinking about hunting when I was around 14yo. My cousin and I where rabbit hunting and we walked up on a puff adder (hognose) that reared up and flared out like a cobra and my cousin took off runnin. I picked it up and stuck in my pocket. When he wasn't paying attention I pulled it out, reached over and said here for hold this for a minute and put it in his hand. Needless to say he didn't go hunting with me again for awhile.

We have both the coral snake and the king snake here in florida and they look about the same.

The king isnt poisonous, but the coral is...
the rule on telling the difference is:

red touching yellow will kill a fellow

Personally, I'm not taking any chances with either one...they will both die if I have anything to do with it.

That one is a coral...

yup, red touches yellow :)

By the way - you all do know how much Jeff hates threads like this...  ;)

Yea well, one is enough. I'm moving it and combining it with the other one.

Should we chage the subject to Grits?

But, but, then that might scare me! :D

OK, how about refering to them as squirels? Anyone deathly scared of Squirels?

This was the second Eastern Diamondback Rattler this year.

Gael and I were due to visit a neighbor and Gael was taking a dish of corn chowder to the car to give to them as I was finishing my shower.  One sock on, one sock off, in my underwear, "TOM!!, There's a snake at the back door".

I hobbled to the back door, picking up my 12 gauge and a couple of #8's on the way.  Sure enough, there to the left of the door, at the corner of the house, beneath the farm bell was a 4 1/2 foot snake with a head as big as the palm of my hand.  The first shot killed it but didn't sever the head.  To calm an excited woman  who was yelling "kill it again, kill it again",  I shot again.  After the second shot, there was no doubt who had won.  Twelve Gauge shotguns at 6 feet are devastating.

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See Deadwood??? LEAD works.  :D :D :D

Stew

As clear a case of lead poisoning as I have ever seen. Nice applicator, that twelve gage...

Tom, that fellow was too close for comfort. I bet Gael is on edge every time she steps out. A rattler at the back door would change everything around here.

No wonder you snapped to attention the other day when we were walking through the woods.  .........  HEAR THAT? Sounded like a rattle snake! ....... I did hear something, but I didn't know what it was.

Have yall got some new back steps?

No, not yet.  I do have some new underwear though.  :D

you know, I can look at snakes with no problem at all - even this one. But, the posting on the Bionic Knee gives me the creeps. You now know my weakness - injuries to others (to myself are just interesting).

I also noticed that there is but one moderator for outdoors - and it is Jeff. Poor guy.

QuoteI also noticed that there is but one moderator for outdoors

He's not the only one with fingers in here.  He's just the one that gets blamed.  :D :D

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Something, last night, dug a hole where I shot the diamondback.  I guess the ground was full of snakeburger.  It was probably my Porch Coon.  The hole is very neat and about 8 inches deep.  The oak roots are undisturbed, but clean as a whistle.

Those white spots are rain, no show here.  :D

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Now I am sure there is an impostor among us with Jeff's codes.   ;D

Next it will be grits?   ???

A Scarlet King is the way to start.  They make a good pocket pet.  :D :D

wal now next thing ya know da Boss will be making pets outa them there squirrels
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Any ideas whatmight be within this enclosure that we are reflected in?  The glass has all been blacked out other then some thin viewing strips. This has been done to keep the creature on the inside from seeing the creatures on the outside. smiley_devil

After seeing a picture of you touching a snake, Jeff, I can't concentrate well enough to guess what might be in there  :o :o :o

Jeff touched a snake !?!?


I hate seeing a picture of one so I seldom visit this thread. I'm with Deadwood all the way !!!!!

Here is a picture of the  Mistress of the Dark enjoying this much more then I am comfortable with.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/snakes_2.jpg)


In the blocked out enclosure is a Bushmaster. They had to black out the glass because these snames DONT LIKE PEOPLE. They say they will strike repeatedly at the glass. If they see a human in view, they rush the glass. The black out was to protect the snakes from injuring thierselves while trying to KILL ME.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/snakes_3.jpg)


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/snakes_4.jpg)

The last one looks like an eyelash viper (the green one).  The big one looks like a boa - but I could definitely be wrong.

Bushmasters are down right evil - in Spanish, the name is matabuey (ox killer). Not sure I want to play with something that can kills something as big as an ox.  :o

I did take a video at the "House of Snakes"  I made it small enough that even dial up users can manage it It will take a few minutes for you slow guys, but it aint real bad. Its a little over 700k.

Jeff's Snake Video (https://forestryforum.com/media/snake_low.wmv)

I admire your your restraint, you only put three slugs in it.  ;D

 :D   Good one Jeff! My sentiments exactly....the only good snake is a dead snake.           You had me worried there for a second when I saw you and Tammy fondling that orange striped bast@@d.

OMIGOD!   He shot wildflower! :-\

Well, I just caught up with this thread, no idea why I hadn't seen it before. Especially since I like snakes. (preferably small non-venomous ones.)

I have a few questions:

Quote from: ARKANSAWYER on May 24, 2005, 07:13:38 PM
A bag of ice and car keys will get you through here, but with them "step and a halfs" you would never get to the truck.

What do you use the bag of ice and the car keys for?

Quote from: ctate on June 02, 2005, 11:03:53 PM
I had a interesting evening.  My mom and dad had told me about this 'giant' snake that was hiding out in their chicken house. ....
I was told it was last seen in one of the old horse stalls.  I went in well armed.  I had a hoe, a bush blade, a shotgun, and a chainsaw.

Um, what were you planning to do with a CHAINSAW???

Quote from: Patty on August 21, 2005, 05:24:29 PM
Personally I think your wife is an angel to even allow the stupid snake as a pet in the first place!

Agree. My son wants a pet snake. I told him when he has his own house he's welcome to one. I don't mind them, but I like my mum visisting, and I know DanG sure if we had a pet snake she wouldn't come anywhere close. The 4 Green Tree frogs we DO have are bad enough, aparrently. Oh, And Gary, Patty's right (as usual) you're lucky your wife didn't mistake a pattern on your shirt for the snake and shoot there. Best repair the holes and never mention it again. And no, you can't mail the snake to me, customs would get cranky.

asy :D

Quote from: asy on July 10, 2006, 09:20:08 AM
Agree. My son wants a pet snake. I told him when he has his own house he's welcome to one. I don't mind them, but I like my mum visisting, and I know DanG sure if we had a pet snake she wouldn't come anywhere close. The 4 Green Tree frogs we DO have are bad enough, aparrently. Oh, And Gary, Patty's right (as usual) you're lucky your wife didn't mistake a pattern on your shirt for the snake and shoot there. Best repair the holes and never mention it again. And no, you can't mail the snake to me, customs would get cranky.

What an idea! So if I get a pet snake there's a chance my mom will stop coming to visit? She's already complained we're movin' to a dirt road and she doesn't stay with us any more (hotels now) because I don't keep the house squeaky clean enough...

Hadn't thought a change in pets would finish her visits off for good. I could save myself a lot of money in Advil. ;D

hehe Good Luck, just don't blame me if she turns out to like snakes!!!

My mum used to complain about how I kept house, now being a single parent, my house isn't always as clean as I like it, never mind how SHE likes it, so, when she visits (which is 2-3 times a year) she spends the first few days spring cleaning my house. I've given up begging her not to clean, and now I just pass her the sponges.

Ya can't fight with yer mum.

asy :D

Quote........  but I like my mum visisting, and I know DanG sure if we had a pet snake she wouldn't come anywhere close.

Asy, does that pet snake thing work on mother n' laws too?   :)

Well My son has gotten his own place and taken his zoo with him. The last time i was there he had
2 burmese pythons
2 ferrets
  a bunch of cats and kittens
  a cage of mice for food and for the cats to play with
  a snapping turtle

Quote from: woodbowl on July 10, 2006, 11:05:46 AM
Asy, does that pet snake thing work on mother n' laws too?   :)

I would have bought the whole of Australia's Zoo if that worked (when I was married).

asy :D

We had a little visitor tonight.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13635/Snake.jpg)

Is that one of the nasty variety?

Looks sorta' like a glass snake.

We call these guys Black Racers. I think they are just harmless grass snakes.
I usually see them often while mowing. It was weird this little guy was on the
driveway. We have some Rat Snakes that hang out in between our  firepit logs.
They are also harmless, but still scare me when taking logs off the pile.
One time, my wife was letting the dog in and when she closed the door, the door
wouldn't shut. A big snake had slid onto the treshold. :D
She freaked.

For instruction on how to care for your new little snake, see video link in a previous post. :)

Jeff, THAT was FUNNY!   8)

When I heard the shots, it made me jump in my chair, cuz I had the volume turned up so high.   ;D

When I was out in the Badlands, I was bopping around at the top of this bluff, waiting for the sun to set, and to see if the light would get better for some sunset shots.  I heard this rattling sound, but I thought it was a dead plant that had seeds on it, blowing in the wind.

The next day, I was at the Badlands visitor center, and they had a display of the sounds of the different animals in the park.  When I heard the sound of the Prairie Rattler on the display, it had an uncanny and creepy similarity to the sound I thought was coming from the dead plant.  And then as I walked by the info desk, I saw a sign stating that "Prairie Rattlers are numerous in the Badlands.  Tread carefully."\

I really hope it was that bush...cuz I heard it several times.   :-\

Hey, I got a 45, why didn't I think of that?
The slug might of ricochet off the concrete though!
Maybe I need to buy a 12 gauge  eh? hurt_smiley

Quote from: Mooseherder on July 11, 2006, 08:44:45 PM
Hey, I got a 45, why didn't I think of that?
The slug might of ricochet off the concrete though!

Well gang, that's what they make snake shot for!
I have a couple areas here that are pretty well infested with Mojave Green rattlers, which are romored to be one of the most poisonous known to man in the rattler family, where I do a lot of cutting for land owners.
Their rattle sounds more like a loud buzzing than a rattle, and it scares the dirt out of me every time I hear one.
When I go into those areas, I wear my snake chaps, heavy boots with 2 pairs of socks, and my 45 loaded with snake shot.
It's like a shotgun shell for a pistol, and it's very effective at it's job. I can decapitiate a mojave green at 10 yards with a singe shot usually, and it's fairly safe even when shooting into rocks inside of 5 yards.
At least I have yet to have any of it come back and hit me....
If you'd like to get some of that snake shot, check out J&G Sales in Prescott, AZ. I get the majority of my firearm supplies from them, and they do mail order.
Later!
SD

Wolf, our husky mix is laying on the floor today looking mighty worn out but finally less painful. Somewhere on the run back up to the house from the mill around dark last night he tangled with a snake. He came in howling and in great distress, finally got him calm and he was stoic, but obviously in great pain. The vet was out on a large animal call and it was about 11 before we could get together at her clinic. He spent the night being watched and got some anny-b's and pain meds. He's finally taking a little food and water. It looks like it could be a shallow pit viper bite, hard to tell, there are a couple of what look to be torn out fang cuts along with a circle of pretty engorged looking flesh on his hind ankle. I think he was lucky, must have been a pretty dry bite. It's sure going to slow down walking in the weeds for awhile.

Well this is what happens when a Snake meets a Weed Wacker.
Didn't even know I had killed it until passing close with the Rider.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13635/Snake%20versus%20weed%20wacker%20002.jpg)

I think it is high time to unbury one of my favorite threads as an attempt to help Jeff deal with his snake phobia...  ;)

I have a few new pictures of snakes - I will try to find them tomorrow - and now that the season is warming up in the north, there should be a few pictures available?

Come on all, let's help Jeff out!  ;D

Just this afternoon while I was spraying the ditch bank I run across a little garder snake'bout 18''. He was a cute little fella and I called to the wife sitting on the swing in the front yard to come see'em but buy the time she got to me it done slithered back under some weeds. Maybe next time. ;D

I've already chopped the heads off of 3 Terciapelos(sp) . All were about 15"-20" long. Them's Venemous  8) ;D ;D

I was visitinng with member Sid the other day and had to pass by his pond on the way to the house.  He had an old tire floating on one end of the pond.  I thought, I'll bet he's waiting for the wind to blow that to the end so that he can get it out.

Well, it turned out it was a moccasin.  He had shot it with 22 hornet the day before and it had gone to the bottom.  It had just risen not long before I saw it and he had plans to get it out.  It looked to me to be bigger than my forearm and as long as my leg.  Putting inches aside, that's still a big moccosin.  A Cotton Mouth is an aggressive snake and will chase you, while Rattlers and other snakes will run.  I'd sure hate to have this one after me.  I was hoping that he would take a picture of it.  Guess he didn't.

The subject turned to cottonmouths yesterday shortly after dispatching a copperhead, I hates poisonous snakes .

Then let me resurrect this post...

Jeff's Snake Video (https://forestryforum.com/media/snake_low.wmv)

Yeppers......priceless  :D :D :D :D :D

Now Jeff - all that snake would do is give you a hug...

Quote from: crtreedude on May 01, 2007, 10:18:46 AM
Now Jeff - all that snake would do is give you a hug...

Not no more. smiley_smug01